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Ben Bowlin (00:09):
Warning. The following mini-sode includes discussion of brontosauruses, fortune telling,
Larry King, the Flintstones, and America's first licensed astrologer. It's
also conveniently packaged in a list format. For listeners who
don't like their information presented in numerical order, please take care.
Mangesh Hattikudur (00:41):
For anyone who listens, you know Skyline Drive isn't that political.
But there are sometimes a person just has to stand up
for what is right. And during the course of our reporting,
it occurred to us here that there aren't any famous
astrologers honored on US postage stamps. There are, however, brontosauruses...
(01:04):
which were famously considered real when I was a kid,
then were declared not real when my cousins were kids,
and then maybe they're real again? I really can't keep track.
Also, there are stamps with Confederate generals on them, which
is confusing because why exactly are we honoring a bunch
of people who tried to overthrow the government mostly because
they wanted to keep slaves.
(01:26):
But maybe most confusing of all, we have the Pony
Express on stamps. This was a failed startup. It barely
lasted a year and a half and it was never
part of the US postal system. So it's kind of
like Google issuing a Google Doodle to honor Alta Vista
or Ask Jeeves or some other long dead competitor. So
(01:50):
unless you think astrology is worse than fake dinosaurs, racist generals,
and complete business failures, I think it's okay to put
an astrologer on a stamp. And if we're gonna pick
just one astrologer, I nominate Maxine Taylor. From Kaleidoscope and
iHeart Podcasts, I'm Mangesh Hattikudur. Welcome to Skyline Drive.
(02:34):
MINISODE ONE
(02:54):
To be honest, Maxine Taylor shouldn't have had time for me.
She spends her days writing, collaborating on books, and taping
predictions for her YouTube channel... and also filling the extra
space in between with zoom consultations for clients. But I
think what she heard I was from Brooklyn and visiting
my parents in Georgia, she just couldn't resist.
(03:16):
Maxine happens to be tethered to those two places too.
She was born and raised in Brooklyn and has lived
most of her adult life not too far from where
my folks live. And I'm so glad she made time
for me, because after just an hour with her, I
realized how much she's done for the art and practice
of astrology here in the United States.
(03:40):
ONE
Maxine Taylor (03:51):
I said, listen, I want to legalize astrology and at
some point become an astrologer. Back then, you practiced astrology
in hushed whispers, because we're in the Bible Belt, for
goodness sake.
Mangesh Hattikudur (04:06):
In 1969, soon after Maxine had moved from Brooklyn to Atlanta,
she realized that you couldn't get a business license for
astrology in Georgia.
Maxine Taylor (04:15):
It wasn't just Georgia, it was the entire country.
Mangesh Hattikudur (04:19):
One of the distinctions that seems to be made is
between fortune telling and astrology, and so what is it
that doesn't sit together with those two ideas.
Maxine Taylor (04:30):
Oh well, first of all, there's a negative connotation to
fortune telling. It's it's like a gypsy, it's like a
rip off, et cetera. It's not. I think it's a
term used to denigrate. But if you're able to put
people's mind at ease, put their hearts at ease, answer
their questions... and if you come from love, this is
(04:55):
a mission. It's a, it's a labor of love. And
I think that word "fortune telling" is insulting.
Mangesh Hattikudur (05:04):
Maxine had a vision that she was meant to bring
astrology to the forefront. It came to her in a
dream that one of her purposes here on earth was
to make people see the worth and astrology and to
legitimize it. So she took her case to the Cobb
County Commissioners. The only problem was no one would give
her an appointment.
So for weeks she waited in the lobby without anyone
(05:27):
calling her name, and finally she saw an open door.
So she sneaks into the commissioner's office and politely asked
him herself. And to her surprise, he invited her to
a commission meeting the following week, just to plead her
case in front of a panel. So Maxine, who's just
in her twenties right now, is super nervous about this:
Maxine Taylor (05:48):
I was scared to death because it was very imposing.
The commissioners were sitting on a dais up high [laughing]... like judges!
And I didn't know how am I going to convince
these people.
Mangesh Hattikudur (06:04):
Also, the mood in the room is not great. The
Marietta Daily Journal was there and they covered the event
and they wrote, "it had been a long Tuesday afternoon
full of sewer-angry and water-angry and highway-angry people, and the
clock on the walls showed nearly five pm when the
girl walked in."
Anyway, she finally gets return and she starts by trying
(06:26):
to show how astrology is prominent in the Bible. But
she soon realizes that this tact isn't really working well.
So she changes her strategy.
Maxine Taylor (06:35):
So what I did was I started talking about each sign,
and I asked each commissioner what their sign was. And
I described them and introduced humor. And the whole nine yards,
long story short.
Mangesh Hattikudur (06:51):
And Maxine's charm quickly wins them over. She explains how
the charts take real work. Like it takes her nearly
twelve hours of study before she presents one to a client.
And she explains how she doesn't want to do this
as a hobby out of her house. How she wants
a proper office and a business license to go with it.
And one of the commissioners get so intrigued that he
(07:12):
asked her if she could predict the best days for
going hog hunting. In the end, the panel was so
tickled by the way she sussed out their personalities and
connected the stars to their life stories that they decided
to give her a license and they only charged her
a hundred dollars.
Maxine Taylor (07:28):
I was able to buy the very first license, uh
for astrology, not entertainment, not miscellaneous, not fortune telling, and
so what I did was historical.
Mangesh Hattikudur (07:49):
TWO
Now. One of the things I strongly believe is that
pop culture has the ability to sway all culture. So
take how we sleep. For example, middle class couples in
America used to sleep in separate twin beds, the way
Lucy and Desi did, until sitcoms of all types from
(08:12):
Ozzie and Harriet:
clip (08:13):
I thought you went to bed.
Well I did, but
Mangesh Hattikudur (08:16):
... to the Flintstones ... to the Brady Bunch... started depicting
couples sharing a bed, and this actually affected American bedrooms
and buying habits.
But that isn't the only case. Like when 16 and
Pregnant aired on MTV, the teenage birth rate went down
by 5.7%. Joe Biden claimed Will & Grace did more to pave
(08:43):
the way to shift America's opinion on gay marriage than
nearly anything else.
So if any one thing could make astrology more acceptable
to Americans, it's got to be an astrologer on CNN.
Can you tell me how you ended up on the networks in the early years?
Maxine Taylor (08:59):
Um, CNN was an experiment, like the United States. It
was a grand experiment.
Mangesh Hattikudur (09:06):
At the time. CNN is just a startup and the
channel is throwing ideas at the wall, trying to figure
out what will stick. And the truth is, Maxine sticks.
Maxine is kind of built for this. Not only she
charming and fun and bubbly, but she's also beautiful and composed.
In college, Maxine had been a regular in beauty pageants
(09:27):
and a finalist from Miss University of Florida, And before
she switched to doing astrology full time, she'd been an
elementary school teacher. So she kind of knows how to
wrangle outside personalities.
Maxine Taylor (09:39):
In fact, when I was on Larry King Show, he
was a gentleman and he was wonderful. But they felt
they had to present a disclaimer. When I was on, well,
I tend to rebel and you might have figured that
(09:59):
one out. UM and I really would get irritated with them.
And this was live TV, and I realized I love
live TV because whatever you say, you can't take back...
Mangesh Hattikudur (10:18):
And in the way Maxine always does, it wasn't long
before she started winning people over.
Maxine Taylor (10:23):
What happened was my predictions were accurate [laughing], and so
they stopped criticizing. And a couple of them asked me
to do their charts.
Mangesh Hattikudur (10:35):
She won't reveal who, but big anchors on the network
who would kind of mock astrology or who would publicly
distance themselves from it were regularly asking her to do
their charts.
Maxine Taylor (10:47):
I loved being on that team. Um and I did
political predictions. But at that time I was totally non-political.
I didn't even watch the news. It was too negative.
Maxine was such a joy that the station still brings
(11:07):
her back to comment on astrology scandals and occasionally to
make sense of the news.
clip (11:12):
What in the world's going on?
Maxine Taylor (11:13):
Oh honey. Every couple of years, some Yahoo rediscovers the
fact that there are two zodiacs. It's that simple, Really, yes,
it's that simple.
Mangesh Hattikudur (11:32):
THREE
Maxine Taylor (11:38):
I got a call in 1980-something, and it was from
a reporter who also worked for CNN. I couldn't understand
what he was saying, because then we had-- and I
don't know if we still do-- what was called coaxial cable.
It was undersea and there was an echo, it was like
(11:59):
talking into a tin can.
And he said, um, I would like you to do
the chart of Hungary.
Mangesh Hattikudur (12:09):
This is 1989, soon after communism fell in Poland and
a pro-democracy revolution was spreading across Eastern Europe. And as
protests were breaking out in Hungary, a CNN reporter based
in Budapest reaches out.
Maxine Taylor (12:24):
And I laughed because I'm thinking
country born? So I said, well, if you can get
me their birth time, because you need an exact birth
time to cast a chart... and the month, day and year,
I'll do the chart. And he said okay. And I
said goodbye and kind of chuckled, thinking I'll never hear
(12:46):
from this guy again.
Well, a couple of weeks later he was back, and
he was so excited. He said, we were born today.
Mangesh Hattikudur (13:00):
On October 23, 1989, the Republic of Hungary officially came into being,
ending communism there. The Berlin Wall would actually fall two
weeks later. It was really an exciting period in history.
Maxine Taylor (13:13):
He gave me the moment it began and said, okay,
will you do the chart? And I did the chart
for the entire country. A country is an entity-- a living,
breathing entity. Um, and we interpret that chart a little
(13:33):
bit differently than we do a birth chart, because we're
dealing with not just say short trips, but transportation, communication,
the press, etcetera.
Mangesh Hattikudur (13:49):
Maxine's reading was pretty thorough. It addressed different areas of
how Hungry would evolve, and it not only aired on
Radio Budapest, but it was printed in newspapers across the country.
Maxine Taylor (14:00):
Obviously, there was a rebellion going on. People were fighting
for principles. Hungary wasn't free, and uh so it was
quite an event, quite an event.
I considered that the highest honor, and that was what
I realized I wanted to do. To hug the world.
Mangesh Hattikudur (14:43):
Maxine Taylor broke all sorts of areas for astrologers in
the US. She created space in this world for professional astrology.
She brought it into the news cycle, and she put
the citizens of Budapest at ease by getting the entire
country a reading. Also, she's a total sweetheart.
Maxine Taylor (15:02):
I love humanity and I love the diversity. People who
are so bigoted-- it's like, can't you see we are
all one? We come in different colored packages, different shapes,
different sizes, different beliefs, and when you touch base with
(15:26):
somebody on that level, to me, that's heaven.
Mangesh Hattikudur (15:35):
I love how astrology provides a way for us to
connect and how it lets us see people not just
in their Instagram perfect lives, but to appreciate them for
all their complexity. In 2023, we're getting new postage stamps
to honor snow globes, sailboats, school buses, and pinatas. And
(15:55):
while I'm very much for those things, astrology figures into
a out of our daily lives. From the Reagan episode,
we know it's shaped our world and country. And in
a strange way, it gives a lot of us comfort
and purpose. Stamps are a symbol of what we value
and what we want to celebrate. So don't you think
(16:17):
between all those sailboats and the snow globes and the pinatas,
there might be a little room for an astrologer, too?
I like to think.
So that's it for this week's Minisode of Skyline Drive.
(16:49):
Special Thanks to my team here, Mary, Mitra, Mark, Anna
and Dhruv for cobbling this together over the holidays. And
Botany as always for the soundtrack. Also thank you so
much to the lovely Maxine Taylor. To see her predictions
for America or to book a consult with America's first
license astrologer, just visit MaxineTaylor.com. Also a big thank you
(17:12):
to my good pal Ben Bowlin for doing this episode's warning.
Ben used to sit across from me at How Stuff Works.
He's the co host of Ridiculous History and Stuff they
Don't Want You To Know, two excellent programs, and he
just put out a phenomenal new book by the same name,
Stuff they Don't Want You to Know. Go pick one
up immediately.
We'll be back with more full episodes very very soon.
(17:35):
I know you have so many shows to choose from,
but I want to thank you from the bottom of
my heart for spending your time with us. See you soon.
Warning. The following mini-sode includes discussion of brontosauruses, fortune telling,
Larry King, the Flintstones, and America's first licensed astrologer. It's
also conveniently packaged in a list format. For listeners who
don't like their information presented in numerical order, please take care.
Mangesh Hattikudur (00:41):
For anyone who listens, you know Skyline Drive isn't that political.
But there are sometimes a person just has to stand up
for what is right. And during the course of our reporting,
it occurred to us here that there aren't any famous
astrologers honored on US postage stamps. There are, however, brontosauruses...
(01:04):
which were famously considered real when I was a kid,
then were declared not real when my cousins were kids,
and then maybe they're real again? I really can't keep track.
Also, there are stamps with Confederate generals on them, which
is confusing because why exactly are we honoring a bunch
of people who tried to overthrow the government mostly because
they wanted to keep slaves.
(01:26):
But maybe most confusing of all, we have the Pony
Express on stamps. This was a failed startup. It barely
lasted a year and a half and it was never
part of the US postal system. So it's kind of
like Google issuing a Google Doodle to honor Alta Vista
or Ask Jeeves or some other long dead competitor. So
(01:50):
unless you think astrology is worse than fake dinosaurs, racist generals,
and complete business failures, I think it's okay to put
an astrologer on a stamp. And if we're gonna pick
just one astrologer, I nominate Maxine Taylor. From Kaleidoscope and
iHeart Podcasts, I'm Mangesh Hattikudur. Welcome to Skyline Drive.
(02:34):
MINISODE ONE
(02:54):
To be honest, Maxine Taylor shouldn't have had time for me.
She spends her days writing, collaborating on books, and taping
predictions for her YouTube channel... and also filling the extra
space in between with zoom consultations for clients. But I
think what she heard I was from Brooklyn and visiting
my parents in Georgia, she just couldn't resist.
(03:16):
Maxine happens to be tethered to those two places too.
She was born and raised in Brooklyn and has lived
most of her adult life not too far from where
my folks live. And I'm so glad she made time
for me, because after just an hour with her, I
realized how much she's done for the art and practice
of astrology here in the United States.
(03:40):
ONE
Maxine Taylor (03:51):
I said, listen, I want to legalize astrology and at
some point become an astrologer. Back then, you practiced astrology
in hushed whispers, because we're in the Bible Belt, for
goodness sake.
Mangesh Hattikudur (04:06):
In 1969, soon after Maxine had moved from Brooklyn to Atlanta,
she realized that you couldn't get a business license for
astrology in Georgia.
Maxine Taylor (04:15):
It wasn't just Georgia, it was the entire country.
Mangesh Hattikudur (04:19):
One of the distinctions that seems to be made is
between fortune telling and astrology, and so what is it
that doesn't sit together with those two ideas.
Maxine Taylor (04:30):
Oh well, first of all, there's a negative connotation to
fortune telling. It's it's like a gypsy, it's like a
rip off, et cetera. It's not. I think it's a
term used to denigrate. But if you're able to put
people's mind at ease, put their hearts at ease, answer
their questions... and if you come from love, this is
(04:55):
a mission. It's a, it's a labor of love. And
I think that word "fortune telling" is insulting.
Mangesh Hattikudur (05:04):
Maxine had a vision that she was meant to bring
astrology to the forefront. It came to her in a
dream that one of her purposes here on earth was
to make people see the worth and astrology and to
legitimize it. So she took her case to the Cobb
County Commissioners. The only problem was no one would give
her an appointment.
So for weeks she waited in the lobby without anyone
(05:27):
calling her name, and finally she saw an open door.
So she sneaks into the commissioner's office and politely asked
him herself. And to her surprise, he invited her to
a commission meeting the following week, just to plead her
case in front of a panel. So Maxine, who's just
in her twenties right now, is super nervous about this:
Maxine Taylor (05:48):
I was scared to death because it was very imposing.
The commissioners were sitting on a dais up high [laughing]... like judges!
And I didn't know how am I going to convince
these people.
Mangesh Hattikudur (06:04):
Also, the mood in the room is not great. The
Marietta Daily Journal was there and they covered the event
and they wrote, "it had been a long Tuesday afternoon
full of sewer-angry and water-angry and highway-angry people, and the
clock on the walls showed nearly five pm when the
girl walked in."
Anyway, she finally gets return and she starts by trying
(06:26):
to show how astrology is prominent in the Bible. But
she soon realizes that this tact isn't really working well.
So she changes her strategy.
Maxine Taylor (06:35):
So what I did was I started talking about each sign,
and I asked each commissioner what their sign was. And
I described them and introduced humor. And the whole nine yards,
long story short.
Mangesh Hattikudur (06:51):
And Maxine's charm quickly wins them over. She explains how
the charts take real work. Like it takes her nearly
twelve hours of study before she presents one to a client.
And she explains how she doesn't want to do this
as a hobby out of her house. How she wants
a proper office and a business license to go with it.
And one of the commissioners get so intrigued that he
(07:12):
asked her if she could predict the best days for
going hog hunting. In the end, the panel was so
tickled by the way she sussed out their personalities and
connected the stars to their life stories that they decided
to give her a license and they only charged her
a hundred dollars.
Maxine Taylor (07:28):
I was able to buy the very first license, uh
for astrology, not entertainment, not miscellaneous, not fortune telling, and
so what I did was historical.
Mangesh Hattikudur (07:49):
TWO
Now. One of the things I strongly believe is that
pop culture has the ability to sway all culture. So
take how we sleep. For example, middle class couples in
America used to sleep in separate twin beds, the way
Lucy and Desi did, until sitcoms of all types from
(08:12):
Ozzie and Harriet:
clip (08:13):
I thought you went to bed.
Well I did, but
Mangesh Hattikudur (08:16):
... to the Flintstones ... to the Brady Bunch... started depicting
couples sharing a bed, and this actually affected American bedrooms
and buying habits.
But that isn't the only case. Like when 16 and
Pregnant aired on MTV, the teenage birth rate went down
by 5.7%. Joe Biden claimed Will & Grace did more to pave
(08:43):
the way to shift America's opinion on gay marriage than
nearly anything else.
So if any one thing could make astrology more acceptable
to Americans, it's got to be an astrologer on CNN.
Can you tell me how you ended up on the networks in the early years?
Maxine Taylor (08:59):
Um, CNN was an experiment, like the United States. It
was a grand experiment.
Mangesh Hattikudur (09:06):
At the time. CNN is just a startup and the
channel is throwing ideas at the wall, trying to figure
out what will stick. And the truth is, Maxine sticks.
Maxine is kind of built for this. Not only she
charming and fun and bubbly, but she's also beautiful and composed.
In college, Maxine had been a regular in beauty pageants
(09:27):
and a finalist from Miss University of Florida, And before
she switched to doing astrology full time, she'd been an
elementary school teacher. So she kind of knows how to
wrangle outside personalities.
Maxine Taylor (09:39):
In fact, when I was on Larry King Show, he
was a gentleman and he was wonderful. But they felt
they had to present a disclaimer. When I was on, well,
I tend to rebel and you might have figured that
(09:59):
one out. UM and I really would get irritated with them.
And this was live TV, and I realized I love
live TV because whatever you say, you can't take back...
Mangesh Hattikudur (10:18):
And in the way Maxine always does, it wasn't long
before she started winning people over.
Maxine Taylor (10:23):
What happened was my predictions were accurate [laughing], and so
they stopped criticizing. And a couple of them asked me
to do their charts.
Mangesh Hattikudur (10:35):
She won't reveal who, but big anchors on the network
who would kind of mock astrology or who would publicly
distance themselves from it were regularly asking her to do
their charts.
Maxine Taylor (10:47):
I loved being on that team. Um and I did
political predictions. But at that time I was totally non-political.
I didn't even watch the news. It was too negative.
Maxine was such a joy that the station still brings
(11:07):
her back to comment on astrology scandals and occasionally to
make sense of the news.
clip (11:12):
What in the world's going on?
Maxine Taylor (11:13):
Oh honey. Every couple of years, some Yahoo rediscovers the
fact that there are two zodiacs. It's that simple, Really, yes,
it's that simple.
Mangesh Hattikudur (11:32):
THREE
Maxine Taylor (11:38):
I got a call in 1980-something, and it was from
a reporter who also worked for CNN. I couldn't understand
what he was saying, because then we had-- and I
don't know if we still do-- what was called coaxial cable.
It was undersea and there was an echo, it was like
(11:59):
talking into a tin can.
And he said, um, I would like you to do
the chart of Hungary.
Mangesh Hattikudur (12:09):
This is 1989, soon after communism fell in Poland and
a pro-democracy revolution was spreading across Eastern Europe. And as
protests were breaking out in Hungary, a CNN reporter based
in Budapest reaches out.
Maxine Taylor (12:24):
And I laughed because I'm thinking
country born? So I said, well, if you can get
me their birth time, because you need an exact birth
time to cast a chart... and the month, day and year,
I'll do the chart. And he said okay. And I
said goodbye and kind of chuckled, thinking I'll never hear
(12:46):
from this guy again.
Well, a couple of weeks later he was back, and
he was so excited. He said, we were born today.
Mangesh Hattikudur (13:00):
On October 23, 1989, the Republic of Hungary officially came into being,
ending communism there. The Berlin Wall would actually fall two
weeks later. It was really an exciting period in history.
Maxine Taylor (13:13):
He gave me the moment it began and said, okay,
will you do the chart? And I did the chart
for the entire country. A country is an entity-- a living,
breathing entity. Um, and we interpret that chart a little
(13:33):
bit differently than we do a birth chart, because we're
dealing with not just say short trips, but transportation, communication,
the press, etcetera.
Mangesh Hattikudur (13:49):
Maxine's reading was pretty thorough. It addressed different areas of
how Hungry would evolve, and it not only aired on
Radio Budapest, but it was printed in newspapers across the country.
Maxine Taylor (14:00):
Obviously, there was a rebellion going on. People were fighting
for principles. Hungary wasn't free, and uh so it was
quite an event, quite an event.
I considered that the highest honor, and that was what
I realized I wanted to do. To hug the world.
Mangesh Hattikudur (14:43):
Maxine Taylor broke all sorts of areas for astrologers in
the US. She created space in this world for professional astrology.
She brought it into the news cycle, and she put
the citizens of Budapest at ease by getting the entire
country a reading. Also, she's a total sweetheart.
Maxine Taylor (15:02):
I love humanity and I love the diversity. People who
are so bigoted-- it's like, can't you see we are
all one? We come in different colored packages, different shapes,
different sizes, different beliefs, and when you touch base with
(15:26):
somebody on that level, to me, that's heaven.
Mangesh Hattikudur (15:35):
I love how astrology provides a way for us to
connect and how it lets us see people not just
in their Instagram perfect lives, but to appreciate them for
all their complexity. In 2023, we're getting new postage stamps
to honor snow globes, sailboats, school buses, and pinatas. And
(15:55):
while I'm very much for those things, astrology figures into
a out of our daily lives. From the Reagan episode,
we know it's shaped our world and country. And in
a strange way, it gives a lot of us comfort
and purpose. Stamps are a symbol of what we value
and what we want to celebrate. So don't you think
(16:17):
between all those sailboats and the snow globes and the pinatas,
there might be a little room for an astrologer, too?
I like to think.
So that's it for this week's Minisode of Skyline Drive.
(16:49):
Special Thanks to my team here, Mary, Mitra, Mark, Anna
and Dhruv for cobbling this together over the holidays. And
Botany as always for the soundtrack. Also thank you so
much to the lovely Maxine Taylor. To see her predictions
for America or to book a consult with America's first
license astrologer, just visit MaxineTaylor.com. Also a big thank you
(17:12):
to my good pal Ben Bowlin for doing this episode's warning.
Ben used to sit across from me at How Stuff Works.
He's the co host of Ridiculous History and Stuff they
Don't Want You To Know, two excellent programs, and he
just put out a phenomenal new book by the same name,
Stuff they Don't Want You to Know. Go pick one
up immediately.
We'll be back with more full episodes very very soon.
(17:35):
I know you have so many shows to choose from,
but I want to thank you from the bottom of
my heart for spending your time with us. See you soon.
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