June 27, 2024 • 38 mins
This week Gabe and Chris talk to escort, adult content creator, go-go dancer, and erotic masseuse Xavier Blanco about how he made his childhood Nomi Malone fantasies a reality, and the hard work it took to get there. We also find out what newbies should know about hiring sex workers - and what to know if you’re thinking of trying out the world’s oldest profession yourself.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about
queer sex, filter dirty words, and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities.
If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more
offends your sensibilities, you might want to skip this Viewer
discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids. Hi. Everyone,
(00:22):
today's episode is all about sex work, which is illegal
in most of the United States, and because of this criminalization,
sex workers face discrimination in nearly every aspect of our society.
Sniffy's Chris Xavier and I don't agree with this state
of affairs, and that's why we're doing this episode to
help destigmatize sex work. But because sex work is illegal,
(00:42):
we want to make it clear that this show is
for entertainment purposes only, and we are not officially recommending
that anyone follow the advice offered in this episode. Sex
work isn't a profession to enter into lightly, and hiring
sex workers is also legal in most of the US,
so please be aware of this while listening.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, game Cruising Combession time. Do you remember learning about
paying for sex or being paid for sex?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I do, so I grew up in Florida, and there
was a street called Obt Orange Blossom Trail, Okay, And
every time we drove by it at night, my mom
would be like, that's that's where the whoors work. I
grew up Catholic. Her word's not mine, her word's not mine,
and so I always had a very like stigmatized understanding
of sex work. And then later when I moved to
(01:29):
New York, one of my very first jobs in the
city was actually editing for a porn company, and I
had never thought of porn performers as sex workers either,
But as I started making friends in the industry, a
lot of folks identify as sex workers, whether they just
film porn, whether they were escorts, performers, OnlyFans, content creators,
which started happening shortly after I started working in the industry.
(01:51):
So I think I have a much broader understanding of
sex work now, and working to get rid of that
stigma that I was raised with was also something that
I think I had to work with personally, because I
have had lovers and friends where sex workers have gone
on dates with folks or sex workers, and I think
they experience of hesitancy telling me about their work. Yes,
(02:13):
and I'm like, you don't have to know. I'm not
a twelve year old Catholic anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah. So it's been a learning experience. I'm lucky that
I've had people teach me. How about you, what's your
experience been with sex work?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh gosh, So I did sex work for about ten years.
Oh wow. It started when I was about fourteen or fifteen.
I was homeless and it was in means of survival
im Portland, where I grew up. There was a lot
of queer youth who were homeless and we sort of
all banded together and my first night out with them,
they were like, let's go to this corner. This is
(02:48):
where we get our johns. And I was like, not
really sure what was going on. The sky pulls up
in a BMW. All my friends are like running to
the car and he and I'm like standing in the
background sort of like what is happening? And he pointed
at me and I was like what what you want me?
And then yeah, that was sort of how it started.
(03:09):
And over the years like it, you know, I started
doing Craigslist and rim Boy and Ritman, and I really
leaned into being an escort. A lot of my clients
were not sex based. You know, at the time, I
spoke for languages, I had a valid passport, I look
good in a tux. So I was doing lots of dinners,
lots of gallas, lots of like boyfriend experiences, and I
(03:32):
made a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh sure you did, babe, I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I spent it on clothes. Yes, yes, well that's
what's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, so many sex workers I've spoken to are like,
sex is part of the job, but it's surprisingly not
as common as you might think. Some folks want to
have a conversation, yes, some folks need companies, some folks
want the boyfriend experience.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So yeah, it's very very interesting broad spectrum of work.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, and it's interesting now now that I like, go
go dance, like some people would like say that that
is sex work, and like, to some extent it kind
of is because I am sort of like offering my
body in this thing in exchange for money. I'm like, yeah,
I don't know. I think that the culture around sex
work has really changed, and I think it's like broadened
(04:18):
a little bit in terms of like instead of just
being like a porn performer or someone who you know
has sex for money. It has gotten a lot broader.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, And there's so many ways to exchange sex for money,
whether you're doing it for survival, whether you're doing it
to just try it out. Yes, And I think removing
that stigma makes it safer for everybody. Yes. And it
also acknowledges that, like all work can be kind of exploitative.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And you, oh my god, right, I worked in corporate
America and baby, I was exploited, working sixty hour weeks
and making less than forty K a year. Tell me
how that's right, Like.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
America, get it together, Get it together, America capitalism. Man,
what a perfect transition into our episode. This week, Chris
and I are talking to sex workers Xavier Blanco about
how he made his teenage Nomi Malone fantasies a reality
and the hard work it took to get there. Yeah,
because sex work is hard work. It is, and we're
(05:16):
going to dive in further into that. We will also
find out what newbies should know about hiring sex workers,
and want to know if you are thinking of trying
out one of the world's oldest professions yourself. Welcome to
Stiffy's Cruising Confessions. I am Gabe Gonzales.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week we explore this sublind
world of queer sex, cruising and relationship.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We'll be talking to queer folks of all kinds, ask
them questions, swap sex.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Stories, share intimate revelations. A lot of us are discovering
ourselves in cruising spaces. This happened to me at this
toilet stall, in the library or the airport. I feel
like everybody's gonna fuck a little harder here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So I've been like the neighborhood flat and I took
pride in that. I was so afraid but yet so intrigued.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And the more I gave to him, the more he
could tak you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have
a moral deficit. With the background as divers as his talents,
Xavier Blanco is a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Xavier's a sex worker advocate and go go dancer. Both
Chris and I have had the pleasure of seeing at
core venues around NYC.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
From his early days as a makeup artist to his
current endeavors in the world of sex work. Exavier story
is one of resilience and authenticity.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You can catch Savior's adventures and insights on all social
media platforms at NYC Dominicano, where he shares his experiences, perspectives,
and some very wonderful original content.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Welcome Xavier Blanco.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hi, how are you? Thanks for joining us, Thanks for
having me Xavier. Let's just start off with a very
basic definition. How would you define sex worker? What is
being a sex worker or the word sex worker mean
to you?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So it means so many different things to so many
different people. For me, sex worker is everything that I do,
from go go dance to escorting from and OnlyFans. Some
people that are go go dancers don't like being categorized
as a sex worker, but I feel like when you're
using your body to sell and promote yourself like it's
(07:13):
sex work. And I love using that term because I
do want to. I feel like it's not a word
that should be looked at as wrong. So the more
I use it, the more I promoted, the more I
have like a positive stance behind it. I feel like
I can, you know, go on the route of being
a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Can you talk to us about the first time you
saw a sex worker and what that felt like. I
was really young.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It was actually a magazine and it was at a pharmacy.
My mom was like picking up medicine and I was
just like a little kid, like rummaging through the pharmacy
in Long Island, and I saw a playgirl, if I'm
not mistaken, so I was just like, Wow, that's hot
and did not know what that was. And then from there,
(07:59):
like sex has always been an interest of mine since
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
A little boy.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't know why, but I really gravitated to that.
And then seeing people like Pamela Anderson, Jenna Jamison Jameson,
even though she's a Republican, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Have to go that far.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Like when I saw a female sex workers, I just
felt like they were so empowered and they felt so
secure and that sense of like vulnerability with security, like
I really I always just wanted that. I never had
that growing up. I grew up overweight, felt always like
different because in my school it was like you were
either black or white, and I was never either, so
(08:42):
I just always constantly felt othered. And when I saw
these individuals, they just looked super empowered and full of
love and joy, like to me like that's what I
came across.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Save here's a question for you, but truly for both
of you. What are some of your favorite experiences you've had,
either dancing or in sex work, like anything positive?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And oh mine.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Would be with with escorting.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
In particular.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
This one specific client who when I first started working
with them, I didn't know that they just had surgery.
This was also in the middle of COVID and it
started off like as a massage session. So at the
end of the massage, he simply I was like, can
I get a hug? And I'm like, yeah, totally, and
he gave me like the most like warmest, most embraced
(09:30):
hug ever. And then after it was finished, he's like thinking,
He's like, I just had surgery. He's like and then
he confessed that he hasn't touched somebody physically in nine months.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh god. And it truly like it reminded me.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And when I have moments like that, like, oh, this
is bigger than just sex, Like what we're doing really
like changes people's lives, like getting those messages from individuals
in Arkansas or like actually even in India, like Hey,
what you're doing is so cool. Thank you for being
so open about your life. It's entertainment, but it's also
(10:07):
give somebody a little bit of, like I don't know,
like a gateway to something that they would like to experience.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like you could be someone else's Nom Malone, someone else's
Pam Anderson. Right, I was gonna say Jenna Jamison, but
we've already talked about Yeah, she's a republic comparison.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It really is what was what would be your moment?
Oh gosh, Okay. So for me, it's been a while
since I've been out of like the sex work game
in terms of escorting, but I do remember getting a
message from someone who lived in a southern state who
was recently out, like out in like he realized that
(10:47):
he was gay and he was a bigger person, and
he was like, I'm really struggling to find connection with
other gay people, and I really just like I want
to have the sexual experience. He'd hired this other score,
but basically this person was like using him for money,
you know, and praying on him and just being able
to like help him walk through that process and talk
(11:09):
to him on the phone and just like help him
realize that this person is actually not good for you
and they actually were just stealing your money. And then
like we had a I mean that relationship lasted I
don't know, six or seven years really, and I had
a really traumatic thing happened when I was in Atlanta
and had a boyfriend tried to commit suicide and I
(11:31):
didn't know anyone there and he was there in school
and I called him and I was like, I'm going
through this thing, and he like picked me up, he
bought me food, he like sat with me, and it
was one of the sweetest things and one of like
the greatest things that has ever happened to me. Like,
you build relationships, right, Like, yeah, sex work is building
(11:53):
a relationship with someone, and like just to know that
this person who has paid me just for my time
in my conversation was willing to show up for me
and like one of the darkest moments of my life
was really it was kind of amazing to Brock. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I like hearing stories like that because it it gives
more information to like who we are, because everybody thinks
that this is just like you know, you're fucking and
you're doing all these other things and that's all that's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But there's more to this.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So much more to Yeah, there's so much more to it,
at least for me. I don't think people understand sex workers.
Like it's really infuriating when somebody's like assumes that my
job is so much fun and that's all it is,
and it's like, no, Actually, that day that I had
to film that scene, I felt really ugly, and I
still had to film that that day that I felt bloated,
(12:45):
I still had to take that client that day that
I was really exhausted and just wanted to go to bed.
I actually had to stay up for three hours and
make seven hundred dollars. Great, but that took energy, well
three hours, seven hundred. The math is not mathing for that,
but you know what I mean. But yeah, like, and
I feel like those are part of like the misconceptions.
(13:07):
So I don't feel like I have like emotional support
and then sometimes even within my own community, like I
enjoy what I do, but I feel like I'm a
little more vanilla and some of my like counterparts like.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I'm sorry, I'm gonna stop you. Did you see vanilla girl,
I've seen your content.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Try again, well, like I get what you need as
a former porn editor, let me tell you I have
seen something. I have seen some things, all right, Right,
so maybe my bar for Vanilla there's a little more permissive.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
No, you're right, yeah, Like I'm not saying like I'm
an angel, but like compared to some of these other
like content creators, like I like my The reason my
subscribers have been my subscribers for so long and they
call me out on this anytime it doesn't happen, is
because of the connections that they see on camera. I
am very passionate my co stars, Like I have fun
(14:02):
with them. I pretend that they're my boyfriends in my head,
and like I present every hotvan on the boyfriend I meant.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
To. But I need want more, really, I gotta jump
on it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's how life works. I mean, we live in New
York City exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
When it comes to clients in particular, I have talked
to folks who have encountered clients who have a certain expectation, right,
They're like, they want you to engage in a certain fetish,
a kink, to consume the same substances they are doing.
And you talked earlier, and you mentioned that you are
a sober sex worker. So what's it like sort of
navigating that not just with clients, but like in only
fans and the content that you create.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm very public about it, like I said, So it's
on all my platforms. It's on my Twitter, is on
my Instagram, is on my rent men, is on my
ret mesore, It's on my Sniffies.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like my sobrieties very important to me. Number one.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I love to have sex and I love to like
fawn over men, but the one thing that I would
never put over that is my sobriety. So I lose
a lot of clients because of it, because I'm like,
you're not gonna come here intoxicated, You're not gonna come
here high, and I'm not gonna get high with you.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm not gonna watch you get high.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Even though I do have a fetish for guy smoking weed,
but I don't do that at work. I do that
in my personal life. Like they can smoke and I'm like, oh,
you're getting high. That's so hot. Yeah, it brings me
back to my childhood.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
If I like the effects, well, if they did anything,
I would, Oh thank you. All right, can we bring
the weed brownies?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Listen? We can do the gang back now I could
get DP.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was like here and like people are walking, I'm like,
is the weed bron really coming?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We are a very sober set and we are.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And what's interesting, you know what's funny, Like when I
was doing sex work, I wasn't sober, but I did
sort of draw a line around that with my clients.
You know, sex work is not safe work to begin with,
and I'm putting myself in some some really tricky situations,
sometimes flying to new cities without having to meet someone,
and if we're adding that level of drugs, specifically meth,
(16:19):
like who knows. And so I really just drew that
line because sobriety comes first, just like you were saying, like,
if I don't put my sobriety first, I'm gonna lose it.
You know, I've been around for I'll have nine years
very soon, and like I've seen it happen, the people
who put anything about their sobriety, they lose it. They
lose it. And I have done a lot of work
(16:42):
to build a really beautiful life for myself and I
have no desire to go back to where I was
nine years ago, like none whatsoever. So whatever it takes
I'm gonna do it most of the time and crying
and crying, but I'm going to do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, And I think it's important that you mentioned. You know,
obviously there are risks and hazards involved with this line
of work. But I think that so many people who
aren't familiar with folks who actually are sex workers assume
that that's inhumane. And I think the reality is that
it's not danger inherent to sex work. It is danger
that is affecting sex workers because we forced sex work
into the shadows, correct. Yeah, And so it's like to
(17:23):
add to compound the risk even more because you don't
have resources, right, you don't have a union. There are
very few websites where you can safely find clients. It's
just like there's so many hurdles to your safety already
that I can totally understand being like, oh God, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have to try this out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Now, when I wasn't working, she was having a whole
I was having a lot of fun. I mean when
I say fun, like it wasn't really actually fun, but
like the moment thought it was fun. And in the moment,
I absolutely thought it was fun. But it was actually
a disaster.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right, Well, we are going to take a quick
break and when we come back, we're going to ask
Xavier to share some tips about what to do if
you've decided your love.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Does cost a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Don't go anywhere I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
For a good time, for a good time one eight.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Good times only good times, Good times only.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Welcome back. That was one eight hundred good times by Jeordiana.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
We are here Rexavier Blanco, and he and my co
host Chris have been dragging me for my Jlo jokes.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I love j Loo.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Thank you. She hated the joke.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I actually did not hate it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was okay. We've got a mixed crowd here, we
got a mixed crowd. In our second half of this interview,
we would like to talk more about practical advice for
folks who are interested in hiring sex workers, getting into
sex work, or leaving sex work. So what advice would
you give to somebody who is thinking of entering sex work.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
To not do it?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Okay, I mean that could be a real answer.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I recently did an interview and I was like, don't
do it. I feel like a lot of people that
are entering into sex work now are doing it because
of the misconception that is easy money and is quick money,
and it's like it's not. It's a lot of work,
and if you are going to do it, do your
research and understand, like what are your boundaries. One of
(19:45):
the things, one of the tips that I got very
early on when I was started to get clients was
like I had all these questions like should I do this?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
How much it is?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And my friend was like, what do you want to
do and how much do you want to pay for that?
Like what's your boundary? Find that boundary and don't cross
it because it's not easy, Like you're gonna be thrown
a lot of money to do a lot of stuff
that you might not want to do. And it's okay
to say no, Like you don't have to say yes
to every client.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You don't have to.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Put yourself in situations that you don't feel comfortable in.
And it gets hard. A lot of people think like, oh,
you're just like rolling in dough, But it's not always
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You you're not. No, you're not, you're not. I mean,
it's a lot of work, like Zaber was saying, and
like I was making the most money after I had
nurtured these relationships for four to five years. Yeah, right,
it's a slow vern kind of yeah. Like and like
you were saying, don't say yes to everybody, not everybody
(20:48):
deserves it, because it's funny.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Because also you could make so much money early on,
but then you're saying yes to all these like bad
situations that burns you out and then you have to
leave and now you're left with like this psychological trauma
because you put yourself in situations that you actually didn't
want to do. So, yeah, you gained all that money,
but what was the expense of that? And how much
now are you going to actually have afterwards? Also that's
another thing. Do not spend all your money at once,
(21:12):
like invest into something Like for me, my investment right
now is my future, which is in school. But like,
all your money doesn't have to go to Balanciaga, all
your money doesn't have to go to trips to Turks
and Caicos and all these things.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Like you can actually use that money for your future.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Like some people might be doing this for the rest
of their life and that's a different situation. But if
you're not, and this is just going to be a
moment in time, make sure that you're thinking about the
future and like.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What you're going to do with that money? What does
a typical day look like for you? So it varies.
So that's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Like I can literally in one night make seven grand
but not see a client for two weeks, So you
just don't know, like what, there is no consistency in
this job. And there's also a lot of people that
flake depending who I'm going to see in what type
of work I'm going to be doing, if I'm going
to be missile is I usually like my massaging clients
a lot more than my escorting clients at times because.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's just a little easier.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You're literally just rubbing down a body.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah, prepping for a bottom is a lot and a
lot of people don't realize like what and like for me,
it's like if I have an accident, which jinkstock on wood,
there's oh this is right.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here with a client like that's and especially if it
was the first experience, like that's the experience they're going
to leave with, They're probably not going to hire me again.
So massaging is a lot a lot easier, But if
I'm going to be escorting, I call it the boyfriend experience.
Like I am going I'm doing a deep dive. I'm
like making sure that my beard is trim and making
sure that I smell good. I'm making sure that whatever
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this person enjoys. Like every all my clients like different
aspects of me, so I'm like suiting up for that.
Like these glasses actually make me a lot of money.
A lot of my clients love to have me in
these classes, which is really funny. But it's like getting
the right wardrobe and like preparing myself mentally, like who
what character am I playing? Which Xavier Blancos am I
(23:07):
for this individual? Do they want me to be the
hyper sexual? Do they want me to be the more submissive?
Do they want me to be submissive but dominant during
these times? And like it's exhausting, Like once you're done
with a session, like a lot goes into it. Like
for me, it's like I'm not the ala carte escort,
So I'm really thinking about, like what is going to
make this individual feel special by the end of it?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. So you mentioned you know that
escorting is really difficult, and you've talked a lot about
the sort of emotional work that goes into it and
the prep. I'm curious, do you find that your work
for OnlyFans is just as time consuming, even if it's
like a different kind.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Of it's even more time consuming. Like I give it
up to just influencers and content creators in general. Like
I did a like a ten second reel that took
me twenty seven minutes to edit on the fucking treadmill,
and I'm just like Jesus for ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And that's what only fans.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like that happens with only fans, Like you're creating these trailers,
you're marketing yourself, You're following up with dms and messages,
and like this person just sent me a hundred dollars,
so I have to make sure I respond to this,
And it's there's a lot of moving pieces, and I'm
a one man show. Some of these content creators that
are in the one percent and are making all these money,
they have people answering back all these like dms, they
(24:23):
have these people editing their videos and creating content for them,
and I have to do that all by myself. And
when you're doing it for only fans, the harder aspect
of that is that it's different platforms. So my content
that goes on Instagram can be the same that goes
on X, and then that that goes on X can
be what goes on Only Fans because then your subscribers
(24:44):
are like, well, I might as well just be on
X because you're putting posting the same things over there.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
So you have to really be you.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Have to think out what your strategy is and what
are you going to be portraying and how you're going
to portray it and be consistent with it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, that's a lot. It's a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I mean I was reading an interview with someone who
was in the top one percent of Only Fans creators
and they quit their full time job. The person was like,
how much do you make a year? And it was
a lot of money. But then he was like, yeah,
I think I worked sixty to eighty hours a week.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I was like I don't. I mean, I've worked like
maybe fifty when I've had like a couple of freelance jobscoring,
But sixty to eighty hours a week. You're like filming,
You're booking people to be in scenes with you, you're
editing them. It's like the copy that goes with the video.
It's like it really is wild. It's almost like a
job and.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
A half, it is.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
And that's the reason why I say, like when people
are like, oh, I want to do this, is like specifically,
even with OnlyFans, I'm like, you can't delete these things
that you're putting up. Like I say, like, it's kind
of like you wanted to do tennis, like and then
you decide to not do it anymore. Like cool, you're
not doing that anymore OnlyFans. Like, once that's public, once
people know that you did this, this is following you
(25:52):
for the rest of your life. And it's a lot
of work that people don't realize that goes into this,
and there's a.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Lot of planning to it.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, and it's very disheartening when somebody's like, yeah, I
want to do this because and it's like such a
fleeting thought to them. It's like, wow, you really think
that I'm just like sitting around doing nothing with my
listing record?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I wish I could use the unedited version.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And I wish that I wasn't investing money into camera lighting,
multiple yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, all that like it's money,
like they don't realize it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't know. Let's say I'm like looking to hire
a sex worker for the first time, what advice would
you give to someone?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Ask questions and don't feel like you're being inappropriate with
asking those questions. I've gotten people asking questions and they're like,
I'm so sorry with all these questions, and I'm like, no,
it's totally fine, and they'll say, well, this other person
I was speaking to was very upset. I'm like, well,
maybe do's not the sex sex worker you're looking for
that like ask the questions, like you're about to get
(26:55):
naked with this person, You're about to be intimate with
this person. If the person you're hiring does and want
to respond to them, or it feels like there are
too many questions and you need these questions answer, maybe
that's not the sex worker for you. Like there's a
plethora of us out there, which sucks for me.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So if you're not, but you have something special, oh
I do what you're offering. Not a lot of people
are offering no at all, Like you're an experience with me.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Not only are you gonna come, but you're gonna leave
there feeling good about yourself, Like I I'm not into humiliation.
I'm not into like making somebody feel that they're beneath me,
like this is this?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I enjoy this?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Like there's clients that are looking for that, and I even,
like I tell them from the beginning, I'm like, I'm
not that person for you. I don't know how I
tried that whole fin down for a while. God, you
can make so much easy money, but like I can't
like is it easy though, well I shouldn't say easy money.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're right, it's it's hard. Well for me, it was hard.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know, you can find a cash pick and make
a lot of money off of them, but you have
to be that type of person that's going to be
treating them pretty shitty. And it's really funny because there's
also like a limit and then if you pass that limit,
they're like, oh, I'm not into this. So if you're
not sad you with it, is that going to work out?
So I'm like, I'm not that person. I am not
dominant by any means. I can be a bossy bottom
(28:07):
like some people like to say, but I don't think so.
I don't understand why they call me a bossy bottom.
I just like what I like, I'm my girl.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Have you seen your contents?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's a difference.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, but I'm so submissive I want to lead into
that no where, So yeah, I would say ask questions,
like ask questions.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Don't be ashamed of what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Like some people feel like they're doing something dirty and appropriate.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's like, no, we're two consenting.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Grown adults about to do something that we both should
enjoy and feel safe. And and if you don't even
want to feel safe in it, like that's cool, Like
you can find somebody that's for that.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So yeah, ask a lot of questions. What does retirement
look like for you?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Uh, retirement for me looks like like I will always
be part of the sex work industry. I do want
to become an advocate for it. I want to help
other sex workers that are either up and coming or
are still in the industry. But I'm currently in school.
I am going to school to become an accountant. I
(29:22):
want to get my CPA license, Like I want to
have my own firm, and I I think sky's the limit,
Like I've really learned in this industry, Like you actually
don't have to have like tunnel vision. I know, like
some of the things that I want to be doing,
but it doesn't have to just be like this particular thing.
So retirement for me would be somewhere with a boat
(29:44):
in the middle of the ocean taking emails.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I love that, Like literally, I.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Love that your fantasy was like a boat the ocean
and emails.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, the last part, but like the email, well, because
you know, I'm still going to be doing.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Work like I want to, you know, and don't get
the bad.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Literally, bots are expensive.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It was like, well, like because it was Pamela Anderson
Tommy Lee's video that really.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Like on the films on the boat right, Yes, is that.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Really solidified, like this is what I want to do
and I want to fulfill that fantasy, like I want
to be in the middle of that's another hundred grand
just wow, oh my god, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
In my industry, there's so many people that do get
tunnel vision and don't think that they can be anything
else more than just a sex worker, or that sex
work only means one.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Single thing, like you can do so much in it.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, I know. I met a lot of folks when
I was working editing that that did retire and did
something that was vastly different, right, folks that went into
public health, that went back to law school, that started
working at like local clinics. And it's interesting because I
really do think so many of the people that I
met that were working as either escorts or porn performers
(31:13):
taught me things about sexual health that I had never learned.
Taught me about community locations, like really a fountain of knowledge,
like the patients, the sort of vulnerability and the know
how to be able to manage their own career in
any kind of sex work. It's like you've really got
to be dedicated, you've got to be knowledgeable, you've got
to be on top of your stuff. And it's like
(31:33):
that's a skill set that you can apply in any career,
Like you've really built a valuable skill set interfacing with
other people or working on your own behalf.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
When I was doing my resume recently, like sadly, like
I can't put escorting on my resume or even the
only fans really, but I have gained so many skills
from it, Like I've learned to manage a full business,
a business that pays for my rent, my bills, and
my school. That's gonna like further my future and talking
(32:06):
about sexual health. Like, I get so annoyed when people
find out that I'm a sex worker and they're like, oh,
STIs and all this, and I'm like, Babe, if I
get an STI I'm not working.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
And if I'm not working, I'm not making money.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
So while you were at the cock taking dick, I
had to be careful about my sexual adventures because if
I do get something, I can't work.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's a really good point. I think a lot of
the folks that I've met in sex work are getting
tested more regularly every three months rather than every six months,
which is the same regimen of testing for when you're
on prep. And so it's so funny that people are like, oh,
folks are on prep or folks who do sex workers,
don't we responsible And it's like no, baby, We're like literally,
it's really wild. So this has been really incredible. I'm
(32:51):
so glad we did get to have a little fun,
but also like dive a little deeper into some.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Of the topics that mean a lot to you. Yeah,
thank you so much for being here. I love you dearly.
Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You can find me on all social media platforms as
NYC Dominicano. A little tip if you're looking to get
into sex work and to be public with it, please
have the same handle across the board.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
You want people to find you.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You do not need a different one for your Instagram,
your Twitter, your only fans. Don't make it hard for
them to find me, so you can find me NYC Dominicano.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I love it. Consistency is key, baby, that's also a
great screen name. I can't believe you nabbed it. It
was actually a joke because I am Dominican. I do
live in New York City, but I grew up very Americanized.
I grew up very feeling others.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Like I said, so my friend studied as a joke, like,
oh my god, you should be NYC Dominicano because I'm
far from that.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like, I don't know how to dance.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I love my culture, save my life, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well, maybe now you're any Porto Ricano.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Platforms.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I bet j Low took that too. We love her.
Good night, all right, thank you, gain Xavier. We're going
to take a break and when we come back, we're
playing Pump or Dump.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
All right, It's time to play our favorite game. Here
cruising confessions, pump or dump. I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You all know how this works. Okay, I'm going to
explain it again. But we it's not too complicated, right,
We've got pump and dump. What do those things mean.
Pump means we're living for it, we would come for it,
we're obsessed. And dump means we will flush it away. Okay,
We're not here to yuck your yum, but we are
here to dump it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, amazing Colin Farrell Farrell Pump, I'm pumping on. I
don't know a lot about him, okay, but I know
that he was also another celebrity sex tape that was released.
It was good. It was short, but good, it was
very good. So I will give him pump for that.
I'll give him a big old pump. Yeah, he could
(34:58):
give me one too. I still go back to that film.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
In a pinch.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's what I want to watch. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You know what I you know I haven't seen in
a while. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Let's rewatch Sex in the Cities and yes.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Thank you exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I love that. You're sure you've got a hard drive
with just Golden Girl episodes and the Colin feral.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sex tape of course, naturally.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, Yeah, I just say I have a weird feeling
about celebrity sex tapes because I obviously watched it as
a teenager when LimeWire was a thing. Baby Love Her,
the things I was downloading on LimeWire. Yeah, I feel
weird looking back on that as an adult because I'm like,
I don't know if this was released with this person's consent.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It never was.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It makes me feel really bad. It makes me feel
bad thinking about it now, but I did not feel
about watching it when I.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Was sixteen, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Next up is the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie, which
I'm asking you about before it has come out. It's
coming out and alive. Yes, it's a pump for me. Yeah,
Deadpool sexy. Hugh Jackman is sexy as Wolverine. Hugh Jackman
is sexy, not as Wolverine, So pump. I'm pumping for
Hugh Jackman in a sleeveless Wolverine costume. It is. And
(36:16):
that beard that was my sexual awakening in the ANSI
series as a child Harry superhero where you could see.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
His like forearms a beast.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah. Oh, actually, Wolverine gets a pump. Yeah, but like
Beast gets a pump, he gets a pump for that
blue dick. You know what I'm saying. If we have
any Beast players out there, I'm like, okay, you're into it. Yeah,
I heard his big muscles. Okay, that's light on paper.
(36:46):
Beast is my man, and he's also a nerd. He's
such a nerd. He's always like quoting, like like, yes,
he's always reading things. Oh we're coming.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Where are you, Beast?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
He wasn't on this list, but he is now He's
a pump.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah for sure. Great. Next up is La grand Wolf.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
The Grand Wolf. I am somewhat familiar with his work.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh really yeah, prolific, poor performer, very tall, kind of
gingery hair. Okay, well I'm just really really fat. The
ginger grates are comfort. Oh that's all you needed. I
really I didn't even have to get No, you said ginger,
and I'm like, yes, that's it, all right. So he
might be sliding into your DMS after that. Yeah, yeah,
be incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
But do you think he likes my flavor?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'm sure. I feel like he is so prolific.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He likes it.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
He's tried every flavor of ice cream cold Stone Creamery.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He is. I thought you're gonna say, Baskt and Robbins
with a thirty one but no cream and the title right,
of course, you're good. You're so good.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I got all right. Well, that's the end of our show.
Thank you so much for joining us, and I hope
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(38:11):
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If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more
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discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids. Hi. Everyone,
(00:22):
today's episode is all about sex work, which is illegal
in most of the United States, and because of this criminalization,
sex workers face discrimination in nearly every aspect of our society.
Sniffy's Chris Xavier and I don't agree with this state
of affairs, and that's why we're doing this episode to
help destigmatize sex work. But because sex work is illegal,
(00:42):
we want to make it clear that this show is
for entertainment purposes only, and we are not officially recommending
that anyone follow the advice offered in this episode. Sex
work isn't a profession to enter into lightly, and hiring
sex workers is also legal in most of the US,
so please be aware of this while listening.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, game Cruising Combession time. Do you remember learning about
paying for sex or being paid for sex?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I do, so I grew up in Florida, and there
was a street called Obt Orange Blossom Trail, Okay, And
every time we drove by it at night, my mom
would be like, that's that's where the whoors work. I
grew up Catholic. Her word's not mine, her word's not mine,
and so I always had a very like stigmatized understanding
of sex work. And then later when I moved to
(01:29):
New York, one of my very first jobs in the
city was actually editing for a porn company, and I
had never thought of porn performers as sex workers either,
But as I started making friends in the industry, a
lot of folks identify as sex workers, whether they just
film porn, whether they were escorts, performers, OnlyFans, content creators,
which started happening shortly after I started working in the industry.
(01:51):
So I think I have a much broader understanding of
sex work now, and working to get rid of that
stigma that I was raised with was also something that
I think I had to work with personally, because I
have had lovers and friends where sex workers have gone
on dates with folks or sex workers, and I think
they experience of hesitancy telling me about their work. Yes,
(02:13):
and I'm like, you don't have to know. I'm not
a twelve year old Catholic anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah. So it's been a learning experience. I'm lucky that
I've had people teach me. How about you, what's your
experience been with sex work?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh gosh, So I did sex work for about ten years.
Oh wow. It started when I was about fourteen or fifteen.
I was homeless and it was in means of survival
im Portland, where I grew up. There was a lot
of queer youth who were homeless and we sort of
all banded together and my first night out with them,
they were like, let's go to this corner. This is
(02:48):
where we get our johns. And I was like, not
really sure what was going on. The sky pulls up
in a BMW. All my friends are like running to
the car and he and I'm like standing in the
background sort of like what is happening? And he pointed
at me and I was like what what you want me?
And then yeah, that was sort of how it started.
(03:09):
And over the years like it, you know, I started
doing Craigslist and rim Boy and Ritman, and I really
leaned into being an escort. A lot of my clients
were not sex based. You know, at the time, I
spoke for languages, I had a valid passport, I look
good in a tux. So I was doing lots of dinners,
lots of gallas, lots of like boyfriend experiences, and I
(03:32):
made a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh sure you did, babe, I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I spent it on clothes. Yes, yes, well that's
what's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, so many sex workers I've spoken to are like,
sex is part of the job, but it's surprisingly not
as common as you might think. Some folks want to
have a conversation, yes, some folks need companies, some folks
want the boyfriend experience.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So yeah, it's very very interesting broad spectrum of work.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, and it's interesting now now that I like, go
go dance, like some people would like say that that
is sex work, and like, to some extent it kind
of is because I am sort of like offering my
body in this thing in exchange for money. I'm like, yeah,
I don't know. I think that the culture around sex
work has really changed, and I think it's like broadened
(04:18):
a little bit in terms of like instead of just
being like a porn performer or someone who you know
has sex for money. It has gotten a lot broader.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, And there's so many ways to exchange sex for money,
whether you're doing it for survival, whether you're doing it
to just try it out. Yes, And I think removing
that stigma makes it safer for everybody. Yes. And it
also acknowledges that, like all work can be kind of exploitative.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And you, oh my god, right, I worked in corporate
America and baby, I was exploited, working sixty hour weeks
and making less than forty K a year. Tell me
how that's right, Like.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
America, get it together, Get it together, America capitalism. Man,
what a perfect transition into our episode. This week, Chris
and I are talking to sex workers Xavier Blanco about
how he made his teenage Nomi Malone fantasies a reality
and the hard work it took to get there. Yeah,
because sex work is hard work. It is, and we're
(05:16):
going to dive in further into that. We will also
find out what newbies should know about hiring sex workers,
and want to know if you are thinking of trying
out one of the world's oldest professions yourself. Welcome to
Stiffy's Cruising Confessions. I am Gabe Gonzales.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week we explore this sublind
world of queer sex, cruising and relationship.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We'll be talking to queer folks of all kinds, ask
them questions, swap sex.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Stories, share intimate revelations. A lot of us are discovering
ourselves in cruising spaces. This happened to me at this
toilet stall, in the library or the airport. I feel
like everybody's gonna fuck a little harder here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So I've been like the neighborhood flat and I took
pride in that. I was so afraid but yet so intrigued.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And the more I gave to him, the more he
could tak you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have
a moral deficit. With the background as divers as his talents,
Xavier Blanco is a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Xavier's a sex worker advocate and go go dancer. Both
Chris and I have had the pleasure of seeing at
core venues around NYC.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
From his early days as a makeup artist to his
current endeavors in the world of sex work. Exavier story
is one of resilience and authenticity.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You can catch Savior's adventures and insights on all social
media platforms at NYC Dominicano, where he shares his experiences, perspectives,
and some very wonderful original content.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Welcome Xavier Blanco.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hi, how are you? Thanks for joining us, Thanks for
having me Xavier. Let's just start off with a very
basic definition. How would you define sex worker? What is
being a sex worker or the word sex worker mean
to you?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So it means so many different things to so many
different people. For me, sex worker is everything that I do,
from go go dance to escorting from and OnlyFans. Some
people that are go go dancers don't like being categorized
as a sex worker, but I feel like when you're
using your body to sell and promote yourself like it's
(07:13):
sex work. And I love using that term because I
do want to. I feel like it's not a word
that should be looked at as wrong. So the more
I use it, the more I promoted, the more I
have like a positive stance behind it. I feel like
I can, you know, go on the route of being
a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Can you talk to us about the first time you
saw a sex worker and what that felt like. I
was really young.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It was actually a magazine and it was at a pharmacy.
My mom was like picking up medicine and I was
just like a little kid, like rummaging through the pharmacy
in Long Island, and I saw a playgirl, if I'm
not mistaken, so I was just like, Wow, that's hot
and did not know what that was. And then from there,
(07:59):
like sex has always been an interest of mine since
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
A little boy.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't know why, but I really gravitated to that.
And then seeing people like Pamela Anderson, Jenna Jamison Jameson,
even though she's a Republican, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Have to go that far.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Like when I saw a female sex workers, I just
felt like they were so empowered and they felt so
secure and that sense of like vulnerability with security, like
I really I always just wanted that. I never had
that growing up. I grew up overweight, felt always like
different because in my school it was like you were
either black or white, and I was never either, so
(08:42):
I just always constantly felt othered. And when I saw
these individuals, they just looked super empowered and full of
love and joy, like to me like that's what I
came across.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Save here's a question for you, but truly for both
of you. What are some of your favorite experiences you've had,
either dancing or in sex work, like anything positive?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And oh mine.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Would be with with escorting.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
In particular.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
This one specific client who when I first started working
with them, I didn't know that they just had surgery.
This was also in the middle of COVID and it
started off like as a massage session. So at the
end of the massage, he simply I was like, can
I get a hug? And I'm like, yeah, totally, and
he gave me like the most like warmest, most embraced
(09:30):
hug ever. And then after it was finished, he's like thinking,
He's like, I just had surgery. He's like and then
he confessed that he hasn't touched somebody physically in nine months.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh god. And it truly like it reminded me.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And when I have moments like that, like, oh, this
is bigger than just sex, Like what we're doing really
like changes people's lives, like getting those messages from individuals
in Arkansas or like actually even in India, like Hey,
what you're doing is so cool. Thank you for being
so open about your life. It's entertainment, but it's also
(10:07):
give somebody a little bit of, like I don't know,
like a gateway to something that they would like to experience.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like you could be someone else's Nom Malone, someone else's
Pam Anderson. Right, I was gonna say Jenna Jamison, but
we've already talked about Yeah, she's a republic comparison.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It really is what was what would be your moment?
Oh gosh, Okay. So for me, it's been a while
since I've been out of like the sex work game
in terms of escorting, but I do remember getting a
message from someone who lived in a southern state who
was recently out, like out in like he realized that
(10:47):
he was gay and he was a bigger person, and
he was like, I'm really struggling to find connection with
other gay people, and I really just like I want
to have the sexual experience. He'd hired this other score,
but basically this person was like using him for money,
you know, and praying on him and just being able
to like help him walk through that process and talk
(11:09):
to him on the phone and just like help him
realize that this person is actually not good for you
and they actually were just stealing your money. And then
like we had a I mean that relationship lasted I
don't know, six or seven years really, and I had
a really traumatic thing happened when I was in Atlanta
and had a boyfriend tried to commit suicide and I
(11:31):
didn't know anyone there and he was there in school
and I called him and I was like, I'm going
through this thing, and he like picked me up, he
bought me food, he like sat with me, and it
was one of the sweetest things and one of like
the greatest things that has ever happened to me. Like,
you build relationships, right, Like, yeah, sex work is building
(11:53):
a relationship with someone, and like just to know that
this person who has paid me just for my time
in my conversation was willing to show up for me
and like one of the darkest moments of my life
was really it was kind of amazing to Brock. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I like hearing stories like that because it it gives
more information to like who we are, because everybody thinks
that this is just like you know, you're fucking and
you're doing all these other things and that's all that's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But there's more to this.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So much more to Yeah, there's so much more to it,
at least for me. I don't think people understand sex workers.
Like it's really infuriating when somebody's like assumes that my
job is so much fun and that's all it is,
and it's like, no, Actually, that day that I had
to film that scene, I felt really ugly, and I
still had to film that that day that I felt bloated,
(12:45):
I still had to take that client that day that
I was really exhausted and just wanted to go to bed.
I actually had to stay up for three hours and
make seven hundred dollars. Great, but that took energy, well
three hours, seven hundred. The math is not mathing for that,
but you know what I mean. But yeah, like, and
I feel like those are part of like the misconceptions.
(13:07):
So I don't feel like I have like emotional support
and then sometimes even within my own community, like I
enjoy what I do, but I feel like I'm a
little more vanilla and some of my like counterparts like.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I'm sorry, I'm gonna stop you. Did you see vanilla girl,
I've seen your content.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Try again, well, like I get what you need as
a former porn editor, let me tell you I have
seen something. I have seen some things, all right, Right,
so maybe my bar for Vanilla there's a little more permissive.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
No, you're right, yeah, Like I'm not saying like I'm
an angel, but like compared to some of these other
like content creators, like I like my The reason my
subscribers have been my subscribers for so long and they
call me out on this anytime it doesn't happen, is
because of the connections that they see on camera. I
am very passionate my co stars, Like I have fun
(14:02):
with them. I pretend that they're my boyfriends in my head,
and like I present every hotvan on the boyfriend I meant.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
To. But I need want more, really, I gotta jump
on it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's how life works. I mean, we live in New
York City exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
When it comes to clients in particular, I have talked
to folks who have encountered clients who have a certain expectation, right,
They're like, they want you to engage in a certain fetish,
a kink, to consume the same substances they are doing.
And you talked earlier, and you mentioned that you are
a sober sex worker. So what's it like sort of
navigating that not just with clients, but like in only
fans and the content that you create.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm very public about it, like I said, So it's
on all my platforms. It's on my Twitter, is on
my Instagram, is on my rent men, is on my
ret mesore, It's on my Sniffies.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like my sobrieties very important to me. Number one.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I love to have sex and I love to like
fawn over men, but the one thing that I would
never put over that is my sobriety. So I lose
a lot of clients because of it, because I'm like,
you're not gonna come here intoxicated, You're not gonna come
here high, and I'm not gonna get high with you.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm not gonna watch you get high.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Even though I do have a fetish for guy smoking weed,
but I don't do that at work. I do that
in my personal life. Like they can smoke and I'm like, oh,
you're getting high. That's so hot. Yeah, it brings me
back to my childhood.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
If I like the effects, well, if they did anything,
I would, Oh thank you. All right, can we bring
the weed brownies?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Listen? We can do the gang back now I could
get DP.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was like here and like people are walking, I'm like,
is the weed bron really coming?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We are a very sober set and we are.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And what's interesting, you know what's funny, Like when I
was doing sex work, I wasn't sober, but I did
sort of draw a line around that with my clients.
You know, sex work is not safe work to begin with,
and I'm putting myself in some some really tricky situations,
sometimes flying to new cities without having to meet someone,
and if we're adding that level of drugs, specifically meth,
(16:19):
like who knows. And so I really just drew that
line because sobriety comes first, just like you were saying, like,
if I don't put my sobriety first, I'm gonna lose it.
You know, I've been around for I'll have nine years
very soon, and like I've seen it happen, the people
who put anything about their sobriety, they lose it. They
lose it. And I have done a lot of work
(16:42):
to build a really beautiful life for myself and I
have no desire to go back to where I was
nine years ago, like none whatsoever. So whatever it takes
I'm gonna do it most of the time and crying
and crying, but I'm going to do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, And I think it's important that you mentioned. You know,
obviously there are risks and hazards involved with this line
of work. But I think that so many people who
aren't familiar with folks who actually are sex workers assume
that that's inhumane. And I think the reality is that
it's not danger inherent to sex work. It is danger
that is affecting sex workers because we forced sex work
into the shadows, correct. Yeah, And so it's like to
(17:23):
add to compound the risk even more because you don't
have resources, right, you don't have a union. There are
very few websites where you can safely find clients. It's
just like there's so many hurdles to your safety already
that I can totally understand being like, oh God, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have to try this out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Now, when I wasn't working, she was having a whole
I was having a lot of fun. I mean when
I say fun, like it wasn't really actually fun, but
like the moment thought it was fun. And in the moment,
I absolutely thought it was fun. But it was actually
a disaster.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right, Well, we are going to take a quick
break and when we come back, we're going to ask
Xavier to share some tips about what to do if
you've decided your love.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Does cost a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Don't go anywhere I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
For a good time, for a good time one eight.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Good times only good times, Good times only.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Welcome back. That was one eight hundred good times by Jeordiana.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
We are here Rexavier Blanco, and he and my co
host Chris have been dragging me for my Jlo jokes.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I love j Loo.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Thank you. She hated the joke.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I actually did not hate it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was okay. We've got a mixed crowd here, we
got a mixed crowd. In our second half of this interview,
we would like to talk more about practical advice for
folks who are interested in hiring sex workers, getting into
sex work, or leaving sex work. So what advice would
you give to somebody who is thinking of entering sex work.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
To not do it?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Okay, I mean that could be a real answer.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I recently did an interview and I was like, don't
do it. I feel like a lot of people that
are entering into sex work now are doing it because
of the misconception that is easy money and is quick money,
and it's like it's not. It's a lot of work,
and if you are going to do it, do your
research and understand, like what are your boundaries. One of
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the things, one of the tips that I got very
early on when I was started to get clients was
like I had all these questions like should I do this?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
How much it is?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
And my friend was like, what do you want to
do and how much do you want to pay for that?
Like what's your boundary? Find that boundary and don't cross
it because it's not easy, Like you're gonna be thrown
a lot of money to do a lot of stuff
that you might not want to do. And it's okay
to say no, Like you don't have to say yes
to every client.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You don't have to.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Put yourself in situations that you don't feel comfortable in.
And it gets hard. A lot of people think like, oh,
you're just like rolling in dough, But it's not always
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You you're not. No, you're not, you're not. I mean,
it's a lot of work, like Zaber was saying, and
like I was making the most money after I had
nurtured these relationships for four to five years. Yeah, right,
it's a slow vern kind of yeah. Like and like
you were saying, don't say yes to everybody, not everybody
(20:48):
deserves it, because it's funny.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Because also you could make so much money early on,
but then you're saying yes to all these like bad
situations that burns you out and then you have to
leave and now you're left with like this psychological trauma
because you put yourself in situations that you actually didn't
want to do. So, yeah, you gained all that money,
but what was the expense of that? And how much
now are you going to actually have afterwards? Also that's
another thing. Do not spend all your money at once,
(21:12):
like invest into something Like for me, my investment right
now is my future, which is in school. But like,
all your money doesn't have to go to Balanciaga, all
your money doesn't have to go to trips to Turks
and Caicos and all these things.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Like you can actually use that money for your future.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Like some people might be doing this for the rest
of their life and that's a different situation. But if
you're not, and this is just going to be a
moment in time, make sure that you're thinking about the
future and like.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What you're going to do with that money? What does
a typical day look like for you? So it varies.
So that's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Like I can literally in one night make seven grand
but not see a client for two weeks, So you
just don't know, like what, there is no consistency in
this job. And there's also a lot of people that
flake depending who I'm going to see in what type
of work I'm going to be doing, if I'm going
to be missile is I usually like my massaging clients
a lot more than my escorting clients at times because.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's just a little easier.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You're literally just rubbing down a body.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah, prepping for a bottom is a lot and a
lot of people don't realize like what and like for me,
it's like if I have an accident, which jinkstock on wood,
there's oh this is right.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here with a client like that's and especially if it
was the first experience, like that's the experience they're going
to leave with, They're probably not going to hire me again.
So massaging is a lot a lot easier, But if
I'm going to be escorting, I call it the boyfriend experience.
Like I am going I'm doing a deep dive. I'm
like making sure that my beard is trim and making
sure that I smell good. I'm making sure that whatever
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this person enjoys. Like every all my clients like different
aspects of me, so I'm like suiting up for that.
Like these glasses actually make me a lot of money.
A lot of my clients love to have me in
these classes, which is really funny. But it's like getting
the right wardrobe and like preparing myself mentally, like who
what character am I playing? Which Xavier Blancos am I
(23:07):
for this individual? Do they want me to be the
hyper sexual? Do they want me to be the more submissive?
Do they want me to be submissive but dominant during
these times? And like it's exhausting, Like once you're done
with a session, like a lot goes into it. Like
for me, it's like I'm not the ala carte escort,
So I'm really thinking about, like what is going to
make this individual feel special by the end of it?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. So you mentioned you know that
escorting is really difficult, and you've talked a lot about
the sort of emotional work that goes into it and
the prep. I'm curious, do you find that your work
for OnlyFans is just as time consuming, even if it's
like a different kind.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Of it's even more time consuming. Like I give it
up to just influencers and content creators in general. Like
I did a like a ten second reel that took
me twenty seven minutes to edit on the fucking treadmill,
and I'm just like Jesus for ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And that's what only fans.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like that happens with only fans, Like you're creating these trailers,
you're marketing yourself, You're following up with dms and messages,
and like this person just sent me a hundred dollars,
so I have to make sure I respond to this,
And it's there's a lot of moving pieces, and I'm
a one man show. Some of these content creators that
are in the one percent and are making all these money,
they have people answering back all these like dms, they
(24:23):
have these people editing their videos and creating content for them,
and I have to do that all by myself. And
when you're doing it for only fans, the harder aspect
of that is that it's different platforms. So my content
that goes on Instagram can be the same that goes
on X, and then that that goes on X can
be what goes on Only Fans because then your subscribers
(24:44):
are like, well, I might as well just be on
X because you're putting posting the same things over there.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
So you have to really be you.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Have to think out what your strategy is and what
are you going to be portraying and how you're going
to portray it and be consistent with it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, that's a lot. It's a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I mean I was reading an interview with someone who
was in the top one percent of Only Fans creators
and they quit their full time job. The person was like,
how much do you make a year? And it was
a lot of money. But then he was like, yeah,
I think I worked sixty to eighty hours a week.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I was like I don't. I mean, I've worked like
maybe fifty when I've had like a couple of freelance jobscoring,
But sixty to eighty hours a week. You're like filming,
You're booking people to be in scenes with you, you're
editing them. It's like the copy that goes with the video.
It's like it really is wild. It's almost like a
job and.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
A half, it is.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
And that's the reason why I say, like when people
are like, oh, I want to do this, is like specifically,
even with OnlyFans, I'm like, you can't delete these things
that you're putting up. Like I say, like, it's kind
of like you wanted to do tennis, like and then
you decide to not do it anymore. Like cool, you're
not doing that anymore OnlyFans. Like, once that's public, once
people know that you did this, this is following you
(25:52):
for the rest of your life. And it's a lot
of work that people don't realize that goes into this,
and there's a.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Lot of planning to it.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, and it's very disheartening when somebody's like, yeah, I
want to do this because and it's like such a
fleeting thought to them. It's like, wow, you really think
that I'm just like sitting around doing nothing with my
listing record?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I wish I could use the unedited version.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And I wish that I wasn't investing money into camera lighting,
multiple yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, all that like it's money,
like they don't realize it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't know. Let's say I'm like looking to hire
a sex worker for the first time, what advice would
you give to someone?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Ask questions and don't feel like you're being inappropriate with
asking those questions. I've gotten people asking questions and they're like,
I'm so sorry with all these questions, and I'm like, no,
it's totally fine, and they'll say, well, this other person
I was speaking to was very upset. I'm like, well,
maybe do's not the sex sex worker you're looking for
that like ask the questions, like you're about to get
(26:55):
naked with this person, You're about to be intimate with
this person. If the person you're hiring does and want
to respond to them, or it feels like there are
too many questions and you need these questions answer, maybe
that's not the sex worker for you. Like there's a
plethora of us out there, which sucks for me.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So if you're not, but you have something special, oh
I do what you're offering. Not a lot of people
are offering no at all, Like you're an experience with me.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Not only are you gonna come, but you're gonna leave
there feeling good about yourself, Like I I'm not into humiliation.
I'm not into like making somebody feel that they're beneath me,
like this is this?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I enjoy this?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Like there's clients that are looking for that, and I even,
like I tell them from the beginning, I'm like, I'm
not that person for you. I don't know how I
tried that whole fin down for a while. God, you
can make so much easy money, but like I can't
like is it easy though, well I shouldn't say easy money.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're right, it's it's hard. Well for me, it was hard.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know, you can find a cash pick and make
a lot of money off of them, but you have
to be that type of person that's going to be
treating them pretty shitty. And it's really funny because there's
also like a limit and then if you pass that limit,
they're like, oh, I'm not into this. So if you're
not sad you with it, is that going to work out?
So I'm like, I'm not that person. I am not
dominant by any means. I can be a bossy bottom
(28:07):
like some people like to say, but I don't think so.
I don't understand why they call me a bossy bottom.
I just like what I like, I'm my girl.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Have you seen your contents?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's a difference.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, but I'm so submissive I want to lead into
that no where, So yeah, I would say ask questions,
like ask questions.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Don't be ashamed of what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Like some people feel like they're doing something dirty and appropriate.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's like, no, we're two consenting.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Grown adults about to do something that we both should
enjoy and feel safe. And and if you don't even
want to feel safe in it, like that's cool, Like
you can find somebody that's for that.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So yeah, ask a lot of questions. What does retirement
look like for you?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Uh, retirement for me looks like like I will always
be part of the sex work industry. I do want
to become an advocate for it. I want to help
other sex workers that are either up and coming or
are still in the industry. But I'm currently in school.
I am going to school to become an accountant. I
(29:22):
want to get my CPA license, Like I want to
have my own firm, and I I think sky's the limit,
Like I've really learned in this industry, Like you actually
don't have to have like tunnel vision. I know, like
some of the things that I want to be doing,
but it doesn't have to just be like this particular thing.
So retirement for me would be somewhere with a boat
(29:44):
in the middle of the ocean taking emails.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I love that, Like literally, I.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Love that your fantasy was like a boat the ocean
and emails.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, the last part, but like the email, well, because
you know, I'm still going to be doing.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Work like I want to, you know, and don't get
the bad.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Literally, bots are expensive.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It was like, well, like because it was Pamela Anderson
Tommy Lee's video that really.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Like on the films on the boat right, Yes, is that.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Really solidified, like this is what I want to do
and I want to fulfill that fantasy, like I want
to be in the middle of that's another hundred grand
just wow, oh my god, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
In my industry, there's so many people that do get
tunnel vision and don't think that they can be anything
else more than just a sex worker, or that sex
work only means one.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Single thing, like you can do so much in it.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, I know. I met a lot of folks when
I was working editing that that did retire and did
something that was vastly different, right, folks that went into
public health, that went back to law school, that started
working at like local clinics. And it's interesting because I
really do think so many of the people that I
met that were working as either escorts or porn performers
(31:13):
taught me things about sexual health that I had never learned.
Taught me about community locations, like really a fountain of knowledge,
like the patients, the sort of vulnerability and the know
how to be able to manage their own career in
any kind of sex work. It's like you've really got
to be dedicated, you've got to be knowledgeable, you've got
to be on top of your stuff. And it's like
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that's a skill set that you can apply in any career,
Like you've really built a valuable skill set interfacing with
other people or working on your own behalf.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
When I was doing my resume recently, like sadly, like
I can't put escorting on my resume or even the
only fans really, but I have gained so many skills
from it, Like I've learned to manage a full business,
a business that pays for my rent, my bills, and
my school. That's gonna like further my future and talking
(32:06):
about sexual health. Like, I get so annoyed when people
find out that I'm a sex worker and they're like, oh,
STIs and all this, and I'm like, Babe, if I
get an STI I'm not working.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
And if I'm not working, I'm not making money.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
So while you were at the cock taking dick, I
had to be careful about my sexual adventures because if
I do get something, I can't work.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's a really good point. I think a lot of
the folks that I've met in sex work are getting
tested more regularly every three months rather than every six months,
which is the same regimen of testing for when you're
on prep. And so it's so funny that people are like, oh,
folks are on prep or folks who do sex workers,
don't we responsible And it's like no, baby, We're like literally,
it's really wild. So this has been really incredible. I'm
(32:51):
so glad we did get to have a little fun,
but also like dive a little deeper into some.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Of the topics that mean a lot to you. Yeah,
thank you so much for being here. I love you dearly.
Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You can find me on all social media platforms as
NYC Dominicano. A little tip if you're looking to get
into sex work and to be public with it, please
have the same handle across the board.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
You want people to find you.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
You do not need a different one for your Instagram,
your Twitter, your only fans. Don't make it hard for
them to find me, so you can find me NYC Dominicano.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I love it. Consistency is key, baby, that's also a
great screen name. I can't believe you nabbed it. It
was actually a joke because I am Dominican. I do
live in New York City, but I grew up very Americanized.
I grew up very feeling others.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Like I said, so my friend studied as a joke, like,
oh my god, you should be NYC Dominicano because I'm
far from that.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like, I don't know how to dance.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I love my culture, save my life, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well, maybe now you're any Porto Ricano.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Platforms.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I bet j Low took that too. We love her.
Good night, all right, thank you, gain Xavier. We're going
to take a break and when we come back, we're
playing Pump or Dump.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
All right, It's time to play our favorite game. Here
cruising confessions, pump or dump. I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You all know how this works. Okay, I'm going to
explain it again. But we it's not too complicated, right,
We've got pump and dump. What do those things mean.
Pump means we're living for it, we would come for it,
we're obsessed. And dump means we will flush it away. Okay,
We're not here to yuck your yum, but we are
here to dump it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, amazing Colin Farrell Farrell Pump, I'm pumping on. I
don't know a lot about him, okay, but I know
that he was also another celebrity sex tape that was released.
It was good. It was short, but good, it was
very good. So I will give him pump for that.
I'll give him a big old pump. Yeah, he could
(34:58):
give me one too. I still go back to that film.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
In a pinch.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's what I want to watch. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You know what I you know I haven't seen in
a while. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Let's rewatch Sex in the Cities and yes.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Thank you exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I love that. You're sure you've got a hard drive
with just Golden Girl episodes and the Colin feral.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Sex tape of course, naturally.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, Yeah, I just say I have a weird feeling
about celebrity sex tapes because I obviously watched it as
a teenager when LimeWire was a thing. Baby Love Her,
the things I was downloading on LimeWire. Yeah, I feel
weird looking back on that as an adult because I'm like,
I don't know if this was released with this person's consent.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It never was.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It makes me feel really bad. It makes me feel
bad thinking about it now, but I did not feel
about watching it when I.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Was sixteen, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Next up is the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie, which
I'm asking you about before it has come out. It's
coming out and alive. Yes, it's a pump for me. Yeah,
Deadpool sexy. Hugh Jackman is sexy as Wolverine. Hugh Jackman
is sexy, not as Wolverine, So pump. I'm pumping for
Hugh Jackman in a sleeveless Wolverine costume. It is. And
(36:16):
that beard that was my sexual awakening in the ANSI
series as a child Harry superhero where you could see.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
His like forearms a beast.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah. Oh, actually, Wolverine gets a pump. Yeah, but like
Beast gets a pump, he gets a pump for that
blue dick. You know what I'm saying. If we have
any Beast players out there, I'm like, okay, you're into it. Yeah,
I heard his big muscles. Okay, that's light on paper.
(36:46):
Beast is my man, and he's also a nerd. He's
such a nerd. He's always like quoting, like like, yes,
he's always reading things. Oh we're coming.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Where are you, Beast?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
He wasn't on this list, but he is now He's
a pump.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah for sure. Great. Next up is La grand Wolf.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
The Grand Wolf. I am somewhat familiar with his work.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh really yeah, prolific, poor performer, very tall, kind of
gingery hair. Okay, well I'm just really really fat. The
ginger grates are comfort. Oh that's all you needed. I
really I didn't even have to get No, you said ginger,
and I'm like, yes, that's it, all right. So he
might be sliding into your DMS after that. Yeah, yeah,
be incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
But do you think he likes my flavor?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'm sure. I feel like he is so prolific.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He likes it.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
He's tried every flavor of ice cream cold Stone Creamery.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He is. I thought you're gonna say, Baskt and Robbins
with a thirty one but no cream and the title right,
of course, you're good. You're so good.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I got all right. Well, that's the end of our show.
Thank you so much for joining us, and I hope
you tune into the next episode. Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is
a production of Outspoken podcast Network from iHeart Podcasts. It's
directed by Adam Barron, produced by Stevie Williams and Cameron Femino,
and executive produced by Eli Martin. Cruising Confessions is presented
by Sniffy's, the ultimate map based cruising platform for gay,
(38:11):
by and curious.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
People ready to cruise.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Check out the map at Sniffy's dot com and follow
Sniffy's on socials at Sniffy's app.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Put Joe Put Put Joe put put, Joe puts up.
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