July 30, 2025 • 45 mins
Logan Spiewak is the dedicated executive director of the Boots To Health Foundation, bringing a
wealth of experience and a deep commitment to supporting veterans' health and well-being. As a
former infantry Marine, Logan understands the unique challenges faced by veterans and is
passionate about providing them with the resources and support they need to thrive.
Prior to his work with the foundation, Logan successfully started and operated his own business,
demonstrating his entrepreneurial spirit and leadership skills. His experience in business has
equipped him with valuable insights into organizational management and strategic planning,
which he now applies to the Boots To Health Foundation to ensure its success.
Logan's journey from the military to entrepreneurship to nonprofit leadership reflects his drive
and determination to make a positive impact on the lives of others. Under his leadership, the
Boots To Health Foundation continues to grow and fulfill its mission of supporting veterans in
achieving their health and wellness goals.
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Knowledge is power. Now we're going to talk to the
founder of Boots to Health, Logan Spiwak.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Welcome to the show, Logan.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Raight, thank you for having me the young man. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, no, it's great.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So, you know, Logan comes from a Marine Corps background
and has some really positive things going on, and we're
going to just crack right into it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And so Logan, welcome to the show. Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I mean, like you know, you guys reached out and said, hey,
I want to come talk about what I'm involved with
with Boots to Health, which is a total veterans you know,
opportunity to reach out to you and get help working
out and getting back in the gym and staying fit.
As a lot of my listeners know, Logan, you might
even know I go boxing just about every single day,
or swimming or snowboarding if the seasons are here. You know,
(02:29):
I'm always outside surrounding myself in that nature. Let's talk
about that. What's going on and welcome to the program.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, well, Rob thanks for having me on. So I
think before we obviously dive into boots to health, I
think we should obviously talk about how we got here, right,
you know, the right before the inception of joining the military.
As well as many young men, I've made poor decisions
in my life early on. I've been arrested numerous times
and convicted of felonies, you know, as a child from
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high school at finally one point for premeditated assault. So
I really didn't have too many opportunities to go to
school after that, you know what I'm saying. I had
a probation officer and was kind of one house arrest
for a while. I had to go to a youth
aid panel, you know, house like I said, house arrest
probation had a pissing the cup in front of my
mother and yeah, we're it was, you know, looking back
(03:17):
at it now, right it you know, we can laugh,
but not back then.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Right, No, no, And this is all Philadelphia, right, like
Mechanicsville or Mechanics Play.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah this yeah, yeah, yeah, in Pennsylvania. I went down
to Philadelphia quite a bit. You know. There's a couple
of guys I was hanging out with when I was younger.
These guys were moving drugs and stuff like that, and
I kind of got myself stuck in that environment because
I thought it was cool when I was like thirteen
and fourteen, and that's not It wasn't cool, you know
what I mean. But yeah, you know, with all that
being said, I didn't really have too many options after that. Obviously,
(03:48):
I had to go to an alternative school, and I remember,
you know, being padded down every day with a wall
like a like one of those wand detector mental detectors
because anyone these kids bringing knife and guns, because these
kids I was around were like, you know, hardcore felons,
like they were doing bad stuff. And actually, to be
honest with you, rab, I meet a lot of friends there.
A lot of those people, you know, I got along
(04:10):
with and I understood, you know, their upcoming, where they
came from, their family, dynamics, and you know, I just
build a relationship with at school. As you know, I'm
very thankful for that to be able to go there
and meet a whole bunch of different people and understand
people where they're at. But anyway, getting back to the point,
after I did what I had to do, I finally
went into the military. But with that being said, it
(04:31):
was difficult going into the military in the first place.
I had what's called a pilotplasty surgery. Are you familiar
with what that is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Brad No, No, and tell me what that is please.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So essentially, Mike Kenny didn't function one hundred percent when
I was a newborn baby, so I had to have
kinney surgery from my kenny would have properly function. So,
with that being said, at such a young age, I
had to get medical waivers before I even went into
the military because of my knney now functioning. So that
that took me about like twelve to fourteen months to
finally get medical waivers. I tried every branch of the
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military to be honest with you, Rad.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, they giving you a hard time besides just your
your kidneys having issues from you know, waivers where they
giving you a hard time about falling in the wrong crew,
you know, having this record that you kind of mentioned
about these felonies where you were just getting you know,
snapped up and you're going to an alternative school, I
mean when you go to the military. I was just
talking to a Navy recruiter recently and asked him about
someone who is a felon. I say, hey, are you
(05:27):
guys taking felons? He's like, well, what's the what's the
what's the felony?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You know? Well the good thing?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, well good thing right is actually I got all
my stuff is sponge, thank the Lord. So I don't
have everything on my record anymore and praise gone. Okay,
So but yeah I did have that obviously at the time,
but everything got a sponge because of a good behavior
and thank thank you to the judge.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So you cleaned up your act because you knew you
wanted to go on the core, right, you had to
get it all scored away.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You couldn't get in.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You had to do whatever they demanded, whether that was
a court you know.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Class or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You had to go through that expungement process, right, And
that's that's a time that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
She being in the court room so much is very interesting,
right because there's a different dynamic in there, especially when
you're in there with your mother. And I remember being
in the court room and my mother looked at me
and told me how much of a disappointment I was too,
or you know that, Yeah, that one hurt, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, that can dude.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean, and you know, because mom tries to raise
you not to do those things.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Right, it was it's not my mother's fault, it's my fault.
I take account.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Good job, So I love that nod. Let me tell
you I went to an alternative high school. I went
to four years, and I went to four years of
summer school and as a skater, and everybody always just
thought we were bad kids. So it wasn't that we
were bad. Kids are super bad. It's just that all
our friends went to these alternative high schools. It was
where they're at now. They're all pro skateboarders, pro snowboarders,
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rock star musicians, hosts of you know, top government podcasts
like Soft Rep. Right, So we all have a background. Bro,
you know, it's it's it's like we've all come from struggles.
I mean, and you got to remember, you know, it's
not the nicest guy on the Navy sealed team that
gets the job done. Somebody has to be that guy
that stabs grandma in the neck and steals the car
to get the mission complete. Okay, So you can't have
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all these American cowboys, you know, just perfect boy scouts.
Someone's got to have the tenacity to just be like,
I gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So anyways, here you are, it's cleaning yourself up, getting
ready to go to the Marine Corps and now what
your your kidneys are coming up with a waiver needed?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Right, so I go. I finally got the waiver. Obviously,
like I was saying before, I got denied by every branch,
was walking out of the recruiting station Marine and his
dress blues obviously walked down said hey kid, where are
you going? And I just said, hey, look man, you
know I got denied. We're doing this for months now.
I'm just trying to get into the military. And He's like,
not a problem, son. So you know, at that point
I knew was in good hands that young man. He
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took care of me and got my medical work process
through WINS, some maps, and then I finally obviously went
to Paris Island. My MOS was O through eleven, so
I obviously went into infantry and obviously my recruital up
that I thought it was easy for him, so easy.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Day, yeah, right, and MOS is military occupation specialty. So
your job was infantry, which is you know, basically the
fighting force of America.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Pretty much. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And so you know, there's only so many marines, like,
you know, three hundred thousand maybe rotating at a time,
and so you know, that's awesome to go down that
route the Marine Corps Paras Island isn't that more east side?
So your east coast, right, so you go to Paris.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you, all went down.
I mean, everybody would tell you that sad Flee's down.
There are the worst things in the world, man, I'll
tell you just they just it is the worst. But honestly,
you know, I will get to that, right. But honestly,
to be quite frank with you, Listen, I'm trying to
jump ship a little bit, but I understand first hand
what PTSD does, especially to veterans, especially military members that
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are in the infantry units and battalions. So unfortunately, you know,
my leadership, the people in my leadership were capacity and
you know, obviously, like you said, right, we're coming off
of rotation from Afghanistan and Iraq, and they were suffering
from post traumatic stress, right because these people were just
going to combat deployments and you know, they've seen some things, right,
so that's going to cause trauma to the brain, and
this is going to obviously alter that person's cognitive behavior, right,
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And obviously they were untreated, and obviously what would happen,
right is these people would become super aggressive and they
would take it out on other people, now, aka the
new guys. And I was one of those new guys, right,
And I will just say the people that were in
charge of me, the gentleman, I'm not going to say
his name, but he would call me every day and
tell me he was going to blow my effing brains out,
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like every day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So just because he's a crazy marine.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well, he unfortunately passed away from alcoholism. He drank himself.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So which seems to be a device that a lot
of folks get involved with, you know, to try to
drown their sorrows from what they may have seen. You know,
because everybody's laying in the war is different, and everybody
saw something different and what their buddy saw, even if
they were together. You know, everybody's looking at different direction
at different times. So who knows what he sees versus
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what he sees, you know, or she sees, and so
you know, that's too bad and unfortunate that he passed away,
but you know, we all come to an end at
some point in this life.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's no yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Right, well, I'm trying to tie that into everything that
we're getting too. But I think it's just very important
just to tell you guys now, just because I understand
firsthand what it's like dealing with these kinds of people
that have gone through trauma through the obviously the nonprofit
that we started, so right, obviously getting out of the military.
The reason why I got out is because I broke
four minute torch was in my mid foot and they
thought I was lying about that. So that kind of
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made you know, the environment a lot, you know, more
toxic for me. So obviously you know what I'm saying, right,
So I think that I.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Do know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like words like more lingering come out, and like words
like existed prior to enlistment comes out, and things like
you know, oh you might have had this and all
these things. But like you know, as somebody who goes
and gives themselves to the doctor to bend over and
show their hole to the dock and he says, you're
good to go and you give yourself one hundred percent
healthy to the military. How many stories have I heard,
whether you've been in for three days at boot camp
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or you've been in for twenty two years and you
come out broken. Okay, So injuries happen all the time.
I knew a guy that was in basic and he
fell and broke his hand. They had to do complete
reconstructive surgery on his hand, and there was no one
in the bay to oversee him and watch him like
a nurse, and we had to like tie his hand
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up to the bunk to make sure that it didn't
you know, fill with fluids and his surgery, they just
released him right back after. There's a lot that goes
on that people don't see it, and it gets sweeped
under the rug.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
With people who've.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Had you know, they've raised their hand, they've given up
their soul to the check of cash it if you
need it, America. You know what I'm saying, You know,
your whole life. So it's out there, and there's a
lot of those and us and those enus and others
who can probably relate with this story who might just
sit on it, you know, in their own self.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well that's what I'm saying, I think it's very important
to bring all this stuff up because there's a lot
of people that I've definitely worked with outside of the
military that I have these similar struggles. But like you said, Ron,
they do not they're not you know, you're not told
not to say anything, right, that's what they're told with
they say, oh, don't just don't, don't say nothing. Don't
say nothing, don't get help.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Honestly, I think, you know, since it is June, you know,
men's mental health awareness. I think it's very important for
men to check themselves right because suicide is definitely an issue.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So yes and so and so tie that's in with
how you you know, got out yourself by breaking or
you know, you have four fractures in your foot, you know,
probably caused how long were you in already before that
you know, reared its head up and then it's just
hard to take care of.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I was in there for two and a half years
at that point, so I was, you know, already halfway
over halfway through my first term enlistening. So right, So
I mean it's not like I couldn't do my job,
you know what I'm saying. That's not what that wasn't
the problem at that point, but yeah, and you know
it's just after that, you know, it made the environment
just a bad place. So I'm not going to get
into that. But you know, obviously getting out, obviously my
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discharge process process wasn't the best rite. Like most people
that I work with, they have similar experiences kind of
no direction and what to do. So when I obviously
I was discharged, I didn't you know, I had no
post post, I had no guideline and no no touchdown.
Where am I gonna go?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Where am I going to run the boat? Right?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Uh? So obviously I got out, started drinking again, started
making bad decisions again, like all over like you said,
I made, I made a you turn in and I
came right out of the military like you said, Rad
and I really fell into a bad place where I
became very depressed and I felt about killing myself every
day for a long time because I had no hope,
to be quite frank with you, And yeah, I one
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of the things that obviously helped me was going to
the gym. That was kind of my escape. You know,
some people had drugs, some people it's alcohol. Mine was
the gym. Man I love going to the gym. I
love working out just to feel good again. Right, who
doesn't feeling good?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know what I mean exactly?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So this I'll tell you how this boost the hell
got started. Rat, I was working out one day and
I met an older gentleman and I thought nothing of him.
Rad thought it was a poor old man. And you know,
I thought I didn't have a wife, he didn't have kids.
You know, I thought nothing of him. Right, that's ignorance, right,
And I bought this man a pair of shoes and
they weren't cheap shoes. Rather, they were two hundred dollars Nikes.
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These were like the new Vapor Max that just came out. Like,
I didn't even know this guy, Like, no joke, Rad,
I didn't know this guy and knew nothing about him
buying these pair of shoes. And then it's funny, right
because I would go back to the gym and you
would see this eighty year old man wearing a pair
of new Nikes, right, like that's just something you don't
see before. So you would just see that and everybody
would laugh. But anyway, as our relationship progressed, because I
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bought that man in these shoes, you know, I kind
of was telling them, you know, my personal struggles that
we talked about briefly, Rad and I was telling him, hey, look,
you know, this is what I struggled with, and I
think we should do something to help the veteran population
because obviously there's definitely a need for this and every
you know, at that point on Rad I kind of
took everything that he taught me and started this foundation.
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I went. I opened up a private gym in central
Pennsylvania and put together this holistic program to help veterans
with their physical needs, their spiritual needs, and their nutritional needs.
Our program again, is three months long, and it's pretty
it's cussing any veteran that comes through the program, and
it's completely cost free. When I've been doing this now
for the past four or five years, and I've helped
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a lot of veterans, so you know, it's just been
a blessing in disguise. But I didn't know that at
the time, right, you know, it was just a lot
of bad things I want. But now I'm happy that
I'm able to take something that was such a negative
thing and you know, make it something positive and just
get back.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So did you enjoy some of the time as a
as your three eleven you know, uh, training and going
to the range.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And you know, yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, I love the guy. Like honestly, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I get that from you though. I get that right
now from you, and I just want you to know
I feel your vibe.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Dude. I think it's great, So tell me, dude.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I mean, it's just like, you know, I get calls
from my guy like my friends in my ode union
and you know, some of the commanding officer and stuff
like that, they just tell me, you know, it's good
to see what you're doing logan and all that good
stuff in the community and just keep doing what you're
doing because you're changing a lot of people's lives. So
you know, I mean that's to me. You know, it
means that means a lot to you guys, because you
don't get that, especially from I'm just saying, men in
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general don't usually do that, especially Marines man. So right right,
that's a big compliment to me.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
There is this problem. My wife talks to me about
it all the time because I have a guy friend
group that gets together once every you know, twenty thirty
days and we go and sit down and we just
have this you know, Hey, we're still friends, we're homies
from junior high and we still get together and it
takes one of us to keep it going. It's like, hey,
are we going to Cotton Bottoms tonight? And they're like, oh, hey,
I'm in town. Oh I'm in town. Let's go tonight,
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And then we'll wind up getting together and having this
healthy conversation for like two hours with each other. You know,
men's health is you know, all health, mental health, but
there is a you know, a lonely man syndrome out there.
And you are taught as a marine or as hardcore guys.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
To hold it all within and just you're tough.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You can handle everything, but you might need somebody with
a shoulder, you know, so that you could lean on well,
you know.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Rather like a lot of these guys, like from even
from what you know, even seeing and being out and
doing this for so long now, a lot of these guys,
like you said, they don't have a community. They become isolated.
And I think that's honestly the worst thing for anybody
to do, because you start falling into old habits again.
And I think that's what really, you know, to cheers
people from you know, having a good life.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I completely know. It's
it's a healthy thing. And tonight is my healthy night
to hang out with my boys. Tonight, the three of us,
four of us are gonna get together and just bs over.
Like you know, his wife's pregnant and he's forty eight.
He's forty eight years old, about to have another baby,
you know, and so just like these types of banter,
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this is just very healthy. I want to guess the
you know, is it gonna be a boy or girl.
You know, we're gonna have these We're just gonna have
like a sewing circle of our own. And I think
that I find that to be healthy. Let alone, dude,
Like what you just said, going to the gym right,
that switch flipped on me about two years ago. I've
got four hundred days of boxing in the last two
years under my belt, and I've got you, I got
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about one hundred and twenty days of snowboarding in that
same time phrase. So you know, in the last two years,
I've got five hundred and twenty days of straight up
activity out of you.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Know, seven hundred and some odd days.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So it's like you know, and they're swimming, and then
there's you know, walking with the family around the block.
I mean, it's always some type of activity that we're doing.
I'm just saying, you know, going to the gym is
just so productive. I find going to like a boxing
gym where there's somebody who can help guide me through
the exercises, you know, a coach, you know, with a group,
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a group class where they're like, all right, lift your
arms up like this and you can say like this
and they're like no, like that and you're like doing
it the right way, you know, and somebody. Then you
have a tribe, a support group, you know, a family,
you know, element that you may be looking for just
right there at the gym. Like you said, old man Witherspoon,
wasn't his name?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Down? Is that? His name?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Was it? Don Don you? Old man?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, right down right.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I read a little something about you, So I just
want to make sure I understand that. So Don He's like,
what is this velcro.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
On these shoes? Right, You're like, oh, these are the
latest Nike, isn't that?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Isn't that crazy though? Right?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
If you would have seen that, dude, you would have
laughed though, because did you see this old guy with
a pair of new Nikes only that's just something you
don't see, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Right right, I have a whole collection of my Nikes
right here from like Oregon state, you know, the Kevin
Durant and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I can easily just here. I'll stay hold on with scord.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Oh yeah, those are nice. What do you you play
ball in?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Those?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
You work out?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah? Those are nice? Right? Those are nice? Right? These
are some nice Kevin Durant. Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
These are issued to the back. So I wear a
size fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Oh wow, you got some big feet. You know what
they say about big feet?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, fifteen sixteen, bro, So you find me some nice nikes.
I'm interested fifteens and I get them cheap because nobody
really wears fifteens or sixteens.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
So listen, if I find any your address, right, I
got you?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh yeah, right, okay, that's great. I love eBay's authentication
program where you can find the shoes. They have a
little blue check mark, like you know, you're a verified cellar,
authentic and then it comes authenticied and with a tag,
and I like to smell it, make sure it's all legit. Hey,
we all got our vices. Okay, I like to smell
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my shoes when I get them.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You know how many pairs you have actually got?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I've got some Lebron's. I've got here. Hold on
one sec. All right, thanks for your patience, listener, viewer.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
But let's just show.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Off a little bit of what is always behind me. Okay,
So I have my Lebrons right here. These are the
Soldiers sixteen. And what I love about these are their
Oregon state or excuse me, University of Oregon or the Ducks.
And right here you have all the redwood trees.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah. Those are nice.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
These are way nice.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Those are way nice. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Oh yeah see, and I love them.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I was working out in them at the gym, doing
push ups and burpies, and on the other one, I
ripped it right here because I was just doing too
much toes. These are more basketball than boxing. And then
I have, uh, one of my favorite pairs. These are
the Nike Military. My mom gave these to me, uh,
and their size fourteen and they fit so I could
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wear you know, between fourteen and sixteen's. And she's no
longer with me, but I wear these when I do
my Force Cump. I'm a force gump reenactor. So when
I run around, I wear these is my Nikes right here,
and then uh, these here are my see here's that
little eBay tag.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
You see this here?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
See that it's authenticated.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah see, So I just leave it on and I
just tuck it in when I wear it.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
It looks like those are good squad issues because of
the souls, yees.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So I have not had a chance to wear these.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
They just remind me of Michael Jackson because of this
like whole white like I.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Don't know, like get the gloss.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I have yet to wear they say zoom because Nike,
excuse me, Eugene organ is Tracktown, USA, and it's all
about running. And so you got the O right here.
So my daughter speaks Mandarin and she's like becoming, you know,
that kind of a college kid about Chinese and so
she goes there and so I've just become a huge
Ducks fan.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know those are nice too. You got a nice
sneaker collection, Ryde, I got it. Maybe you should buy
me a pair of.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And then I love my jungle boots as well, and
I just I just like them all right here in
my snowboard boots and yeah, yeah, well we won't talk
about my yeezies. Those are like I bought those before
he was great.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, no idea, let me. Yeah, I'm not gonna show him.
He doesn't deserve that.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But they glow in the dark.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I bought him about five years ago. I also got
Justin Bieber's crocs. I like the Drew collection crocs. They're
size fourteen fifteen's. They're purple with all of his logos
on them. It's a pretty uh oh yeah, you want
to see it. You want to see it, let.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Me see the cross not that yeasy though? Now oh
yeah those are nice. Wait what is it? What is that?
Those are just his logos?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, set again.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
What are you doing that? Those are his logos?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So you got Justin Bieber on a skateboard. That's his character.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Okay, that's GiB So.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, that's him on a skateboard.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And then you got his Drew Bear, and then you've
got his like Drew Coyote, and then his Drew Bugs Bunny.
Because his middle name is Drew Justin Drew Bieber, so
it's called Drew collection and his bunny's.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
All got red eyes because he's all like because he's yeah, right,
exactly right. So it's like, you know, and yeah, it's
the Justin Bieber collection. This is my second set.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I don't know this is going to turn into rad
shoe collection, but uh.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, how much I think.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think the Biebers are like one hundred and fifty
to three hundred online if you can find them.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I found them at deals. Though.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You have to understand, I get I have big feet,
and so the average size of those nikes that I
showed you, like my Kevin my favorite Kevin Durant ones
are these?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
What are those?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
It was seven?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So I love the vibrant color of these right here.
Those are my favorite ones. Ah, you know, maybe I
think the sevens and so what it is is, you
know they're all issued right of course to the players,
and sometimes they have numbers like number fifteen.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Oh, this one's number.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Player number one, So whoever was wearing number one during
this series of color? But this is a two thousand
dollars pair and I got them for eighty one bucks
on auction on eBay and it was just like it
was just like the best deal ever and that's really
what spurred me to keep just getting these shoes, because
(24:58):
I would just say, hey, what the other side fifteens
did they have under organ colors? And man, eBay's got
it all there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So I'm just like, dude, for work, eighty one bucks?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
No, you can't be eighty one bucks.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Dude, look at that eighty one dollars. Ok, it's popping.
It's yellow. I wear them.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I could tell you definitely beating them up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, right here a little bit. But I wear them.
I wear them. I wear them.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I warre them all over the University of organ are
it was just like nice shoes.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm like, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
When de rode quickly, man, I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You, no, it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
We're just real, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's it's boots to health and it doesn't get any
more boot than then. You know my trainers that I
wear at the gym, Okay, these are what I'm wearing.
My coach says, do you even fill the ground in these?
When I'm like doing like power burpies and jumps and whatnot,
And I'm like not really. So honestly, there's something to
be said about a good shoot in the gym, you know,
helping me do my squats. Bro, when I'm doing so
(25:55):
many squats, like, you know, one hundred and fifty squats
in eight minutes or whatever, it's like, yeah, bro, there's
nothing like a nice pair of shoes.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
No, I agree, you have to have a nice pair
of shoes when you work out. That's that's a bust.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And that's that's totally just segues into the Boots to
health mentality, you know. And and I'm sure that there's
people out there who are gonna be like, wow, did
we just have a Nike drop on the show with
rad and you know and logan, Yeah, you did that
just happened, right.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Tell him I want to see my split though.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Oh jeez, brobably love that. Well.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You gotta think Nike is in the Eugene organ Nike
is headquartered world headquarters there, and they just gave that
they gave that school half a billion dollars to build
a state stadiums.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
That's just state of the art.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
At dude, five hundred million dollar endowment from Nike from
Phil Knight, because you know, he is track down USA.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Man, he's the guy, he's.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, And the crazy part is Disney coordinated with
the Universe University organ to create the Duck. So they
had this like bastard version of Donald Duck called Puddles,
And he's a sailor. He's got a hat. He just
looks disgrentled though he doesn't dance, he doesn't flip or
nothing at the show, at the games, he's just like
(27:10):
he just walks around like a duck.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And I love ducks. So it's a good world for
us to be in.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And hopefully my listener and my viewer is just like
having a good vibe about this, because you know, this
is healthy conversation between two grown men who've never met.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Each other other than this show.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Like we're really just like, hey, Logan's very vulnerable just
to start talking about you know, I came from this background.
My childhood was rough, you know, hanging out with these
dudes when I was ten and they were ten years older. Okay,
going into Philly, Brother of brother City of Brotherly Love,
and all I know and all I know, all I know,
all I know about Philly and the City of Brotherly
(27:49):
Love is the nineties and Kids, the movie Kids where
they were skating and they were just like it was
always skating, and we were skating and we were like yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Kids, and they're like, yeah, Philly, what's up.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You know, watch me take a forty out of the store.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's like, I don't know if you've seen that movie,
but you should check out Kids.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You probably be like, oh, bro, this is the Love
skate Park.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, Love l o V.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's is that the one dude in the one scene
he's talking about having sex with the condom one with
the girls. Is that the movie?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, and he's infected.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, right, right, right, it's it's it's it's it's
pretty real. Right if they talk that, they hit a
real vibe in that movie of like, you know, safe sex,
you know, ejaculate responsibly as a young man. You know, uh,
you know, really it's skateboarding.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Good movie thought. Think about it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's called Kids, right, and it's from the nineties. Some
of you might have seen it already. And if you haven't,
go check out Kids and see. If you're a skater
from the nineties and now you're in your thirties forties,
you'd probably relate or you've probably seen that movie.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, that's a that's a that's an instant classic.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Right, have you even hit thirty? Can I just call
you Disney Channel Gold?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
How old are you?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Twenty six?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
N twenty six? Holy cow?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Man? Are you not doing movies and television or nothing?
You don't have an agent putting you out there. It's
just you hustle. Oh no, I guess Carl's doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Huh, Carl's hustling for me?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
What's up, Carl?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Thanks for sending Logan our way. Dude, It's been a
great chat so far.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
You know, I just want to give you a shout.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Out, Carl is Unless you're Carl, then good one on me, Logan,
good one, shout out Carl Nap.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, Carl Knapp.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
He's your publicist, and you're putting you, putting you out there,
and I hope that there's other things you can spread
your message to, you know. And so when I was
looking over your your your information is talking about how
you know, Boots to Health is just really free for
veterans to reach out to you for free?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Is this free? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
This prog it was completely cost free. And you probably wonder, well, Logan,
how is that the case? You know? In this economy? Well,
to be honest with you, rat I do a lot
of fundraising, and I know one of the barriers for
a lot of these people that I do work with
is the financial means, right, because the stuff that we
do provide obviously has a value behind it. But I
know that what we're providing is a good service and
people should be taking benefit of that, and you know,
(30:21):
they should be getting those benefits in the first place.
I know the VA has tried to do something very similar,
but there's such a negative connotation behind the VA as
I know that you know, Rad and many other people know,
and we'll say the same thing. It has gone better.
It is getting better one hundred percent, right, but it's
definitely not where it should be still, but it's definitely
progressing in the right way.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And it's better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
You go to England and there's really nothing for their
services after they get out there, just dealing with it. Yeah,
I've worked with veterans on an international level and I've
been so thankful just to have a VA to have
it here where others they're just forced to serve and
then they're yeah, pretty much, I don't know what else
(31:02):
to say, you know, and then they get nothing, there's nothing,
and they and they go through all the same trauma
and they might have been attached to units that come
home who have I mean, so much trauma could be seen.
These guys are sas you know. It's like there's charities
out in England that help them. So it's cool that
you've just dedicated yourself to helping you know, your fellow
(31:24):
veteran learn that they can go to the gym or
that they can reach out through your boots to health, right.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely. I mean if anybody wants,
you know, a programmer or anything like that for finish
related stuff. I mean a lot of military members like
the gym. I mean, from what I've seen, obviously.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
We all know PT exists.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
You all go to get pted, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
The same thing, and why not do that when you
get out?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
So I'm trying to obviously make it out an easy
transition for a lot of people because it just puts
structure in your day round like you said, and just
gives accountability and that discipline piece. And then you're moving,
You're moving and grooving, baby, what else.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Do you want?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know? And then and then you feel like you've
accomplished so much like today, I've already gone to the gym.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
That's right, talking about let's go right.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You know what I'm saying. It's like I've already done it.
I already put in time. I woke up early. I
didn't want to go. I was like, do I want
to go? Do I do not want to go? It's like,
am I gonna? Am I sore? I'm like, oh, do
I have an excuse? And my excuse was like I
don't have an excuse because I told myself I was
gonna do this, and so I just told myself I
have to commit to doing this because I told myself
I would.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's like, hello, but don't you feel better though?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
After?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Though? Oh? I always feel better.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And you know what, sometimes I roll in like a
minute after class starts and I feel totally bad and
I feel like, you know, everyone's looking at me because
they already started the warm ups.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And usually I'm in there for the warm ups.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But I remember people showing up late like I have,
and I'm just happy that they showed up when I
was already there. You know, It's like, oh, hey, so
and so it might be three or five minutes late
to class, but they were hustling across town trying to
get here. That's the effort. And then they get into class.
They just pick up for the next forty nine minutes
of class fifty minutes. It's a class, so it doesn't
matter if you're a little late or you're the perfect
(33:04):
on time fifteen minutes early, stretched out, already touching the
floor with your knees and everything, whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Perfect guy. That's great. To show up. You got to
show up.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
That's the biggest thing. And then after you obviously work out,
you have to get a cup of coffee. Nice traditions.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh well, I mean yeah, Usually me and my wife
we go Space Crews for a couple of coffee and
then we have our chat and then she's like, how
is your gym?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And I'm like, this is what's going on today? And
then I go.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Off to work on my wargame life that I do
where I run you know, tactical Airsoft supply here in
Salt Lake City and that houses ten thousand square foot
kill house that I run war fighters through.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That are kids who.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Have asthma, kids who have joined the military, adults now
a military, retired military. You know, people who have never
had the chance to get in things like that and
they get to go and fight each other with Airsoft
training rifles and we just make it a great time.
And then we go out to the desert and do
that on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
So you know, so, shit, where's Utah?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Eight oh one airsoft dot com is my arena and
so if you look up eight oh one Airsoft, it'll
just kind of like have the vibe there. And then
Utaught Airsoft is a good resource on Facebook. So if
you're on Facebook, U taught Airsoft or any social media
and it just it's just wargames.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Dude. It's like shoulder to shoulder.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You get a guy like yourself, O three eleven doesn't
have much you know, running around oh three eleven anymore,
but you kind of want it because it's in you
and it's like, well you can come fight with us
shoulder to shoulder. And then you meet this kid next
to you who has asthma and he's like, hey, what
do you do and you're like, oh, as in the Marines. Ah, awesome,
Now he gets to fight next to somebody who wore
that title. Or you know, some guys are still in
(34:40):
and they're coming out, you know, Okay, where else can
you put you know, some gangsters against police officers and
put them in a meat grinder and let them shoot
each other and then shake hands and do it again.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Okay, I mean other than playing GTA. I don't think anything.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm telling you, I do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
They come in, they take their badges off, they put
them away, they put their combat gear on, and everybody's
like same team kind of attitude in the arena.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
The rules are respect, integrity, and safety. You're going to
adhere to it. There's zero tolerance for derogatory comments to
one another. This is a learning environment and a gym
with a sporting mentality, and that is what I run
here in Utah, aside from doing the podcast.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know you do the podcast and that that's insane.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You's well yeah, and well yeah, and so right now,
that's why we're doing such an early morning sash is
because after we're done here, I drive thirty minutes north
and I open up at noon.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
So boom, boom boom.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
What's busy for you right now?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Well, right now in Utah, it's eleven ten.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Okay, you're two hours behind me.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, Mountain standard time.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, you're where are you at you in Pennsylvania still
coast Amish Country.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Where are you at?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I'm not in Mechanicsburg right now.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Mechanics Burg.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, your name Harris, No, but is that Amish Country.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
No, Amish Country. Man is like out near.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Lancaster, Lancaster. Yeah, my friend, he's my friend lives here.
He's from Lancaster. We always ask him about Amie Country.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah. You know, you gotta be very careful of doing
business with those people. Though.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Business is business. Okay, that doesn't change lights on, lights off.
Business is business. Bro, Okay, I understand. Yeah you do, bro,
Yeah you do. It's a whole nother vibe out there.
It's like and they could dig a hole with thirty
other brethren real quick. No, the barn Raisings are awesome, Okay, people,
(36:34):
great people. Them food, Yeah, all their handmade crafts, everything,
the butter that they churn, yeah, dude.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Makes some women actually do make some good desserts though,
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well yeah, and honestly, like they're so crafty and they're
so workmanship. It's just like in built inside of all
of their DNA. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know. They all move the farm together in a
day yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Mean, definitely hardworking people.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I gotta give that to them, definitely, I do. I do.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Now, let me ask you about your book. It's Sneakers
to Eternity, something we can go see. Is that something
you want to discuss a little bit?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Oh so obviously, Rad, that's a little bit about obviously
what they're putting out. So essentially everything I told you, right,
they're putting it together a book essentially my life, you know,
up to this point, you know, there's the big transformation
of where I begin and where I'm at right now,
because everybody in America loves a underdog story right right.
And to be quite frank with you, I've been doing
this for a couple of years, like I said, and
(37:28):
you know, being expelled from high school and not really
having any business acumen behind me, you know, it's very
very very impressive to be where I'm at right now.
To be quite frankly, I've been very blessed and I
have a good bunch of people around me that support
me and believe in what I'm doing, and I'm very
thankful for that.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
So well, I am happy to have had you on
the show and wrapped with you for like the last
forty five minutes about just you know, Boots to Health
moving that program out to our listeners so that someone
can just reach out.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
What's the website for.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
That, Yeah, if anybody's interested to go to WA Boots
to Health Foundation.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Dot org Boots to Health Foundation dot org. And what
we'll do is we'll put UH a you know, a
little blur below on software dot com that has that
broken out with you know, the contact infos. Soon will
just click on it. So if you're out there listening
or watching this episode and you're wanting to learn more
about Boots to Health and how you can take advantage
(38:21):
of this free program that Logan UH has put together,
probably with a team. I'm sure it's not. Is it
just you or is there some Carls obviously around?
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Well, i'd be crazy though, right, Just look.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
At me, though, you're just juggling it.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
But you know that's what we do. You know, I
could be a court jester.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let me just say, I juggle it all day long, bro,
all day long.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Oh yeah, every single day.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
But listen, I would love to have you back on
the show, you know, and we can discuss further, you know,
and see how the organization's.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Been going and doing and you know, you.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Can talk about like last time we talked, there was
this many enrolled. This time, you know, seven eight months later,
we've got this many people who've reached out thanks to
the show, because it's just gonna, like you know, hopefully
get you some endowments and somebody that can help put
some of that in your coffers, right, like you are
open to a deduction or mean, excuse me, it would
be a deduction for a five oh one C three
(39:23):
if somebody wanted to donate to your program, Boots to
Health the Foundation, right.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah, we are if I have on one C three
federally registered, Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Sir, that's right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And so you know, if you're out there and you're thinking, oh,
I got a little bit of extranss and I want
to just donate it, then you should reach out to
Boots to Health at that foundation. Is it Boots to
Health Foundation dot org?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Boots to Health Foundation dot Org.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
All right, well, thank you so much for being on
the show with me today and Logan Spiwick, you have
been pretty pretty cool, bro. I would love to hang
out with you, and I think that you're cool like that,
and I just I want you to walk around a
little taller today, feeling good about yourself, and you seem
like a really chill dude, and uh, you know, and
(40:08):
I love how you say, Rad. You know, you're like,
you'll now, Rad, this is what's up, Brad. I'm like,
what's up, Philadelphia. I appreciate it, Bro, Mike Schmidt, Bro
from the Philadelphia. Okay, let's go Mike Schmidt, dude, baseball.
Let's talk old school. Okay, Mike Schmidt. You know I
have his baseball cards, one of my favorite players ever.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Wait real quick, how old are you though? Before before
you hang up?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Three thousand, seven hundred and twenty seven. But I live
in the fountain of youth, so I look this good.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Hey man, You're blessed.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Thank the Lord, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Nineteen seventy seven, dude, that's my year of the birthteen.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
That's why I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Forty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Forty seven, that's right. That's what's up. Rock and roll, baby,
rock and roll. Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I went to an alternative high school all four years
of summer school. You went to school for four years
of it?
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, dude, what did you do?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I just I had a skate shop.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I had a skateboard shop when I was thirteen, and
I was just working and had a skateboard shop and
a snowboard shop with an arcade in it.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
And I was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and I was just like.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
At school, work, school, work, work, school work, school. I'm
employing my friends. They're getting work credit going to school.
We go to the same alternative school. And then the
teacher shows up at my job and he's like, you
know what, rat, I'm all what. He's like, You're the
only student I've ever had to have sign off on
other students who work for them to get credit for school.
It's like, I know, what a great thing we figured
out how to get credit at school for working for me.
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So all my homies that were skaters had a job
at my shop and they all got like three extra
credits a year for working at my shop. So I
helped them all graduate. So, you know, yeah, skate shop, dude.
So I just didn't really go to school too much, dude.
I was always skateboarding, driving a link In town car,
a seventy six linc In town car, by the way.
It was a big fat boat and just probably you know,
(41:57):
you would have hung out with me.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Due honestly, you probably smoked weed when we were younger together.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Bro, I tell you what, dude or older, because today
is uh still hello, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Who's around? Just kidding.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Online?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It is it live? Yeah, we're still rolling, bro. I
don't care. I'm cool like that, man.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So you know what, I got veteran friends who are
it just sues their soul. Okay, they eat a little
gummy and uh away go the demons. Yeah yeah, And
it's all about get rid of those demons.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
If you can't go outside and you can't hike them out,
and you can't snowboard or you can't go swimming in
your local pool, you know you gotta do some.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Thrills before pills.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Okay, thrills before pills.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Go do something with yourself.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Go to the gym, Go try boxing, you know, because
the thrill for boxing for me is like I might die.
The thrill for snowboarding for me is like I might
hit a tree and die. The thrill for me going
to work every day is I gota drive on the
freeway and I swerve in it out of and I
might get hit and die. There's a lot of adrenaline
(43:03):
that we live through in our lives. Oh you got
an escale. I don't have an escalator. I have a
I have a ninety three jeep wrangler yj red.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Is it tricked out, it's tricked over.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's got a six inch lift and it's got thirty
threes on it and some tread. Just got some new
shoes for it. So uh, it's my daily commuter to work.
So if you see me rolling through the Utah Valley,
throw out the peace sign.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
No problem. I'm easy like that. That's what's up.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I thought I was letting the show go. But if
you've listened this long to the show, to my listener,
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(43:51):
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Speaker 3 (44:13):
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Speaker 1 (44:13):
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your clothes in ten minutes. It's a washing machine in
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Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Well listen, Logan, you have been great, and it's boots
to Health Foundation dot org. And if anybody has any questions,
go check that url out and if you are going
to the gym, get in there, work out.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Check out the book club.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Big shout out to Brandon Webb who always allows me
to take the control of the mic here and host
our wonderful guests. And thanks again to Carl for sending
you over our way. You've been a pleasure to have
on the show, Logan, and we'd love to have you back.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
It was a pleasure gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Knowledge is power. Now we're going to talk to the
founder of Boots to Health, Logan Spiwak.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Welcome to the show, Logan.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Raight, thank you for having me the young man. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, no, it's great.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So, you know, Logan comes from a Marine Corps background
and has some really positive things going on, and we're
going to just crack right into it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And so Logan, welcome to the show. Dude.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I mean, like you know, you guys reached out and said, hey,
I want to come talk about what I'm involved with
with Boots to Health, which is a total veterans you know,
opportunity to reach out to you and get help working
out and getting back in the gym and staying fit.
As a lot of my listeners know, Logan, you might
even know I go boxing just about every single day,
or swimming or snowboarding if the seasons are here. You know,
(02:29):
I'm always outside surrounding myself in that nature. Let's talk
about that. What's going on and welcome to the program.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, well, Rob thanks for having me on. So I
think before we obviously dive into boots to health, I
think we should obviously talk about how we got here, right,
you know, the right before the inception of joining the military.
As well as many young men, I've made poor decisions
in my life early on. I've been arrested numerous times
and convicted of felonies, you know, as a child from
(02:56):
high school at finally one point for premeditated assault. So
I really didn't have too many opportunities to go to
school after that, you know what I'm saying. I had
a probation officer and was kind of one house arrest
for a while. I had to go to a youth
aid panel, you know, house like I said, house arrest
probation had a pissing the cup in front of my
mother and yeah, we're it was, you know, looking back
(03:17):
at it now, right it you know, we can laugh,
but not back then.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Right, No, no, And this is all Philadelphia, right, like
Mechanicsville or Mechanics Play.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah this yeah, yeah, yeah, in Pennsylvania. I went down
to Philadelphia quite a bit. You know. There's a couple
of guys I was hanging out with when I was younger.
These guys were moving drugs and stuff like that, and
I kind of got myself stuck in that environment because
I thought it was cool when I was like thirteen
and fourteen, and that's not It wasn't cool, you know
what I mean. But yeah, you know, with all that
being said, I didn't really have too many options after that. Obviously,
(03:48):
I had to go to an alternative school, and I remember,
you know, being padded down every day with a wall
like a like one of those wand detector mental detectors
because anyone these kids bringing knife and guns, because these
kids I was around were like, you know, hardcore felons,
like they were doing bad stuff. And actually, to be
honest with you, rab, I meet a lot of friends there.
A lot of those people, you know, I got along
(04:10):
with and I understood, you know, their upcoming, where they
came from, their family, dynamics, and you know, I just
build a relationship with at school. As you know, I'm
very thankful for that to be able to go there
and meet a whole bunch of different people and understand
people where they're at. But anyway, getting back to the point,
after I did what I had to do, I finally
went into the military. But with that being said, it
(04:31):
was difficult going into the military in the first place.
I had what's called a pilotplasty surgery. Are you familiar
with what that is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Brad No, No, and tell me what that is please.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So essentially, Mike Kenny didn't function one hundred percent when
I was a newborn baby, so I had to have
kinney surgery from my kenny would have properly function. So,
with that being said, at such a young age, I
had to get medical waivers before I even went into
the military because of my knney now functioning. So that
that took me about like twelve to fourteen months to
finally get medical waivers. I tried every branch of the
(05:03):
military to be honest with you, Rad.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, they giving you a hard time besides just your
your kidneys having issues from you know, waivers where they
giving you a hard time about falling in the wrong crew,
you know, having this record that you kind of mentioned
about these felonies where you were just getting you know,
snapped up and you're going to an alternative school, I
mean when you go to the military. I was just
talking to a Navy recruiter recently and asked him about
someone who is a felon. I say, hey, are you
(05:27):
guys taking felons? He's like, well, what's the what's the
what's the felony?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You know? Well the good thing?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, well good thing right is actually I got all
my stuff is sponge, thank the Lord. So I don't
have everything on my record anymore and praise gone. Okay,
So but yeah I did have that obviously at the time,
but everything got a sponge because of a good behavior
and thank thank you to the judge.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So you cleaned up your act because you knew you
wanted to go on the core, right, you had to
get it all scored away.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You couldn't get in.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You had to do whatever they demanded, whether that was
a court you know.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Class or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You had to go through that expungement process, right, And
that's that's a time that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
She being in the court room so much is very interesting,
right because there's a different dynamic in there, especially when
you're in there with your mother. And I remember being
in the court room and my mother looked at me
and told me how much of a disappointment I was too,
or you know that, Yeah, that one hurt, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, that can dude.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I mean, and you know, because mom tries to raise
you not to do those things.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Right, it was it's not my mother's fault, it's my fault.
I take account.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Good job, So I love that nod. Let me tell
you I went to an alternative high school. I went
to four years, and I went to four years of
summer school and as a skater, and everybody always just
thought we were bad kids. So it wasn't that we
were bad. Kids are super bad. It's just that all
our friends went to these alternative high schools. It was
where they're at now. They're all pro skateboarders, pro snowboarders,
(06:45):
rock star musicians, hosts of you know, top government podcasts
like Soft Rep. Right, So we all have a background. Bro,
you know, it's it's it's like we've all come from struggles.
I mean, and you got to remember, you know, it's
not the nicest guy on the Navy sealed team that
gets the job done. Somebody has to be that guy
that stabs grandma in the neck and steals the car
to get the mission complete. Okay, So you can't have
(07:08):
all these American cowboys, you know, just perfect boy scouts.
Someone's got to have the tenacity to just be like,
I gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So anyways, here you are, it's cleaning yourself up, getting
ready to go to the Marine Corps and now what
your your kidneys are coming up with a waiver needed?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Right, so I go. I finally got the waiver. Obviously,
like I was saying before, I got denied by every branch,
was walking out of the recruiting station Marine and his
dress blues obviously walked down said hey kid, where are
you going? And I just said, hey, look man, you
know I got denied. We're doing this for months now.
I'm just trying to get into the military. And He's like,
not a problem, son. So you know, at that point
I knew was in good hands that young man. He
(07:47):
took care of me and got my medical work process
through WINS, some maps, and then I finally obviously went
to Paris Island. My MOS was O through eleven, so
I obviously went into infantry and obviously my recruital up
that I thought it was easy for him, so easy.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Day, yeah, right, and MOS is military occupation specialty. So
your job was infantry, which is you know, basically the
fighting force of America.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Pretty much. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And so you know, there's only so many marines, like,
you know, three hundred thousand maybe rotating at a time,
and so you know, that's awesome to go down that
route the Marine Corps Paras Island isn't that more east side?
So your east coast, right, so you go to Paris.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you, all went down.
I mean, everybody would tell you that sad Flee's down.
There are the worst things in the world, man, I'll
tell you just they just it is the worst. But honestly,
you know, I will get to that, right. But honestly,
to be quite frank with you, Listen, I'm trying to
jump ship a little bit, but I understand first hand
what PTSD does, especially to veterans, especially military members that
(08:52):
are in the infantry units and battalions. So unfortunately, you know,
my leadership, the people in my leadership were capacity and
you know, obviously, like you said, right, we're coming off
of rotation from Afghanistan and Iraq, and they were suffering
from post traumatic stress, right because these people were just
going to combat deployments and you know, they've seen some things, right,
so that's going to cause trauma to the brain, and
this is going to obviously alter that person's cognitive behavior, right,
(09:15):
And obviously they were untreated, and obviously what would happen,
right is these people would become super aggressive and they
would take it out on other people, now, aka the
new guys. And I was one of those new guys, right,
And I will just say the people that were in
charge of me, the gentleman, I'm not going to say
his name, but he would call me every day and
tell me he was going to blow my effing brains out,
(09:37):
like every day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So just because he's a crazy marine.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Well, he unfortunately passed away from alcoholism. He drank himself.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So which seems to be a device that a lot
of folks get involved with, you know, to try to
drown their sorrows from what they may have seen. You know,
because everybody's laying in the war is different, and everybody
saw something different and what their buddy saw, even if
they were together. You know, everybody's looking at different direction
at different times. So who knows what he sees versus
(10:07):
what he sees, you know, or she sees, and so
you know, that's too bad and unfortunate that he passed away,
but you know, we all come to an end at
some point in this life.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's no yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Right, well, I'm trying to tie that into everything that
we're getting too. But I think it's just very important
just to tell you guys now, just because I understand
firsthand what it's like dealing with these kinds of people
that have gone through trauma through the obviously the nonprofit
that we started, so right, obviously getting out of the military.
The reason why I got out is because I broke
four minute torch was in my mid foot and they
thought I was lying about that. So that kind of
(10:39):
made you know, the environment a lot, you know, more
toxic for me. So obviously you know what I'm saying, right,
So I think that I.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Do know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like words like more lingering come out, and like words
like existed prior to enlistment comes out, and things like
you know, oh you might have had this and all
these things. But like you know, as somebody who goes
and gives themselves to the doctor to bend over and
show their hole to the dock and he says, you're
good to go and you give yourself one hundred percent
healthy to the military. How many stories have I heard,
whether you've been in for three days at boot camp
(11:09):
or you've been in for twenty two years and you
come out broken. Okay, So injuries happen all the time.
I knew a guy that was in basic and he
fell and broke his hand. They had to do complete
reconstructive surgery on his hand, and there was no one
in the bay to oversee him and watch him like
a nurse, and we had to like tie his hand
(11:30):
up to the bunk to make sure that it didn't
you know, fill with fluids and his surgery, they just
released him right back after. There's a lot that goes
on that people don't see it, and it gets sweeped
under the rug.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
With people who've.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Had you know, they've raised their hand, they've given up
their soul to the check of cash it if you
need it, America. You know what I'm saying, You know,
your whole life. So it's out there, and there's a
lot of those and us and those enus and others
who can probably relate with this story who might just
sit on it, you know, in their own self.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well that's what I'm saying, I think it's very important
to bring all this stuff up because there's a lot
of people that I've definitely worked with outside of the
military that I have these similar struggles. But like you said, Ron,
they do not they're not you know, you're not told
not to say anything, right, that's what they're told with
they say, oh, don't just don't, don't say nothing. Don't
say nothing, don't get help.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Honestly, I think, you know, since it is June, you know,
men's mental health awareness. I think it's very important for
men to check themselves right because suicide is definitely an issue.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So yes and so and so tie that's in with
how you you know, got out yourself by breaking or
you know, you have four fractures in your foot, you know,
probably caused how long were you in already before that
you know, reared its head up and then it's just
hard to take care of.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I was in there for two and a half years
at that point, so I was, you know, already halfway
over halfway through my first term enlistening. So right, So
I mean it's not like I couldn't do my job,
you know what I'm saying. That's not what that wasn't
the problem at that point, but yeah, and you know
it's just after that, you know, it made the environment
just a bad place. So I'm not going to get
into that. But you know, obviously getting out, obviously my
(13:02):
discharge process process wasn't the best rite. Like most people
that I work with, they have similar experiences kind of
no direction and what to do. So when I obviously
I was discharged, I didn't you know, I had no
post post, I had no guideline and no no touchdown.
Where am I gonna go?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Where am I going to run the boat? Right?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Uh? So obviously I got out, started drinking again, started
making bad decisions again, like all over like you said,
I made, I made a you turn in and I
came right out of the military like you said, Rad
and I really fell into a bad place where I
became very depressed and I felt about killing myself every
day for a long time because I had no hope,
to be quite frank with you, And yeah, I one
(13:38):
of the things that obviously helped me was going to
the gym. That was kind of my escape. You know,
some people had drugs, some people it's alcohol. Mine was
the gym. Man I love going to the gym. I
love working out just to feel good again. Right, who
doesn't feeling good?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know what I mean exactly?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So this I'll tell you how this boost the hell
got started. Rat, I was working out one day and
I met an older gentleman and I thought nothing of him.
Rad thought it was a poor old man. And you know,
I thought I didn't have a wife, he didn't have kids.
You know, I thought nothing of him. Right, that's ignorance, right,
And I bought this man a pair of shoes and
they weren't cheap shoes. Rather, they were two hundred dollars Nikes.
(14:13):
These were like the new Vapor Max that just came out. Like,
I didn't even know this guy, Like, no joke, Rad,
I didn't know this guy and knew nothing about him
buying these pair of shoes. And then it's funny, right
because I would go back to the gym and you
would see this eighty year old man wearing a pair
of new Nikes, right, like that's just something you don't
see before. So you would just see that and everybody
would laugh. But anyway, as our relationship progressed, because I
(14:34):
bought that man in these shoes, you know, I kind
of was telling them, you know, my personal struggles that
we talked about briefly, Rad and I was telling him, hey, look,
you know, this is what I struggled with, and I
think we should do something to help the veteran population
because obviously there's definitely a need for this and every
you know, at that point on Rad I kind of
took everything that he taught me and started this foundation.
(14:54):
I went. I opened up a private gym in central
Pennsylvania and put together this holistic program to help veterans
with their physical needs, their spiritual needs, and their nutritional needs.
Our program again, is three months long, and it's pretty
it's cussing any veteran that comes through the program, and
it's completely cost free. When I've been doing this now
for the past four or five years, and I've helped
(15:14):
a lot of veterans, so you know, it's just been
a blessing in disguise. But I didn't know that at
the time, right, you know, it was just a lot
of bad things I want. But now I'm happy that
I'm able to take something that was such a negative
thing and you know, make it something positive and just
get back.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So did you enjoy some of the time as a
as your three eleven you know, uh, training and going
to the range.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And you know, yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, I love the guy. Like honestly, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I get that from you though. I get that right
now from you, and I just want you to know
I feel your vibe.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Dude. I think it's great, So tell me, dude.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I mean, it's just like, you know, I get calls
from my guy like my friends in my ode union
and you know, some of the commanding officer and stuff
like that, they just tell me, you know, it's good
to see what you're doing logan and all that good
stuff in the community and just keep doing what you're
doing because you're changing a lot of people's lives. So
you know, I mean that's to me. You know, it
means that means a lot to you guys, because you
don't get that, especially from I'm just saying, men in
(16:09):
general don't usually do that, especially Marines man. So right right,
that's a big compliment to me.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
There is this problem. My wife talks to me about
it all the time because I have a guy friend
group that gets together once every you know, twenty thirty
days and we go and sit down and we just
have this you know, Hey, we're still friends, we're homies
from junior high and we still get together and it
takes one of us to keep it going. It's like, hey,
are we going to Cotton Bottoms tonight? And they're like, oh, hey,
I'm in town. Oh I'm in town. Let's go tonight,
(16:36):
And then we'll wind up getting together and having this
healthy conversation for like two hours with each other. You know,
men's health is you know, all health, mental health, but
there is a you know, a lonely man syndrome out there.
And you are taught as a marine or as hardcore guys.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
To hold it all within and just you're tough.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You can handle everything, but you might need somebody with
a shoulder, you know, so that you could lean on well,
you know.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Rather like a lot of these guys, like from even
from what you know, even seeing and being out and
doing this for so long now, a lot of these guys,
like you said, they don't have a community. They become isolated.
And I think that's honestly the worst thing for anybody
to do, because you start falling into old habits again.
And I think that's what really, you know, to cheers
people from you know, having a good life.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I completely know. It's
it's a healthy thing. And tonight is my healthy night
to hang out with my boys. Tonight, the three of us,
four of us are gonna get together and just bs over.
Like you know, his wife's pregnant and he's forty eight.
He's forty eight years old, about to have another baby,
you know, and so just like these types of banter,
(17:39):
this is just very healthy. I want to guess the
you know, is it gonna be a boy or girl.
You know, we're gonna have these We're just gonna have
like a sewing circle of our own. And I think
that I find that to be healthy. Let alone, dude,
Like what you just said, going to the gym right,
that switch flipped on me about two years ago. I've
got four hundred days of boxing in the last two
years under my belt, and I've got you, I got
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about one hundred and twenty days of snowboarding in that
same time phrase. So you know, in the last two years,
I've got five hundred and twenty days of straight up
activity out of you.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Know, seven hundred and some odd days.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So it's like you know, and they're swimming, and then
there's you know, walking with the family around the block.
I mean, it's always some type of activity that we're doing.
I'm just saying, you know, going to the gym is
just so productive. I find going to like a boxing
gym where there's somebody who can help guide me through
the exercises, you know, a coach, you know, with a group,
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a group class where they're like, all right, lift your
arms up like this and you can say like this
and they're like no, like that and you're like doing
it the right way, you know, and somebody. Then you
have a tribe, a support group, you know, a family,
you know, element that you may be looking for just
right there at the gym. Like you said, old man Witherspoon,
wasn't his name?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Down? Is that? His name?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Was it? Don Don you? Old man?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, right down right.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I read a little something about you, So I just
want to make sure I understand that. So Don He's like,
what is this velcro.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
On these shoes? Right, You're like, oh, these are the
latest Nike, isn't that?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Isn't that crazy though? Right?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
If you would have seen that, dude, you would have
laughed though, because did you see this old guy with
a pair of new Nikes only that's just something you
don't see, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Right right, I have a whole collection of my Nikes
right here from like Oregon state, you know, the Kevin
Durant and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I can easily just here. I'll stay hold on with scord.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Oh yeah, those are nice. What do you you play
ball in?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Those?
Speaker 4 (19:33):
You work out?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah? Those are nice? Right? Those are nice? Right? These
are some nice Kevin Durant. Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
These are issued to the back. So I wear a
size fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Oh wow, you got some big feet. You know what
they say about big feet?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, fifteen sixteen, bro, So you find me some nice nikes.
I'm interested fifteens and I get them cheap because nobody
really wears fifteens or sixteens.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
So listen, if I find any your address, right, I
got you?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh yeah, right, okay, that's great. I love eBay's authentication
program where you can find the shoes. They have a
little blue check mark, like you know, you're a verified cellar,
authentic and then it comes authenticied and with a tag,
and I like to smell it, make sure it's all legit. Hey,
we all got our vices. Okay, I like to smell
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my shoes when I get them.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You know how many pairs you have actually got?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I've got some Lebron's. I've got here. Hold on
one sec. All right, thanks for your patience, listener, viewer.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
But let's just show.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Off a little bit of what is always behind me. Okay,
So I have my Lebrons right here. These are the
Soldiers sixteen. And what I love about these are their
Oregon state or excuse me, University of Oregon or the Ducks.
And right here you have all the redwood trees.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah. Those are nice.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
These are way nice.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Those are way nice. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Oh yeah see, and I love them.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I was working out in them at the gym, doing
push ups and burpies, and on the other one, I
ripped it right here because I was just doing too
much toes. These are more basketball than boxing. And then
I have, uh, one of my favorite pairs. These are
the Nike Military. My mom gave these to me, uh,
and their size fourteen and they fit so I could
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wear you know, between fourteen and sixteen's. And she's no
longer with me, but I wear these when I do
my Force Cump. I'm a force gump reenactor. So when
I run around, I wear these is my Nikes right here,
and then uh, these here are my see here's that
little eBay tag.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
You see this here?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
See that it's authenticated.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah see, So I just leave it on and I
just tuck it in when I wear it.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
It looks like those are good squad issues because of
the souls, yees.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So I have not had a chance to wear these.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
They just remind me of Michael Jackson because of this
like whole white like I.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Don't know, like get the gloss.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I have yet to wear they say zoom because Nike,
excuse me, Eugene organ is Tracktown, USA, and it's all
about running. And so you got the O right here.
So my daughter speaks Mandarin and she's like becoming, you know,
that kind of a college kid about Chinese and so
she goes there and so I've just become a huge
Ducks fan.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know those are nice too. You got a nice
sneaker collection, Ryde, I got it. Maybe you should buy
me a pair of.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And then I love my jungle boots as well, and
I just I just like them all right here in
my snowboard boots and yeah, yeah, well we won't talk
about my yeezies. Those are like I bought those before
he was great.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, no idea, let me. Yeah, I'm not gonna show him.
He doesn't deserve that.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But they glow in the dark.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I bought him about five years ago. I also got
Justin Bieber's crocs. I like the Drew collection crocs. They're
size fourteen fifteen's. They're purple with all of his logos
on them. It's a pretty uh oh yeah, you want
to see it. You want to see it, let.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Me see the cross not that yeasy though? Now oh
yeah those are nice. Wait what is it? What is that?
Those are just his logos?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, set again.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
What are you doing that? Those are his logos?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So you got Justin Bieber on a skateboard. That's his character.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Okay, that's GiB So.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, that's him on a skateboard.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And then you got his Drew Bear, and then you've
got his like Drew Coyote, and then his Drew Bugs Bunny.
Because his middle name is Drew Justin Drew Bieber, so
it's called Drew collection and his bunny's.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
All got red eyes because he's all like because he's yeah, right,
exactly right. So it's like, you know, and yeah, it's
the Justin Bieber collection. This is my second set.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I don't know this is going to turn into rad
shoe collection, but uh.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, how much I think.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think the Biebers are like one hundred and fifty
to three hundred online if you can find them.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I found them at deals. Though.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You have to understand, I get I have big feet,
and so the average size of those nikes that I
showed you, like my Kevin my favorite Kevin Durant ones
are these?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
What are those?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
It was seven?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So I love the vibrant color of these right here.
Those are my favorite ones. Ah, you know, maybe I
think the sevens and so what it is is, you
know they're all issued right of course to the players,
and sometimes they have numbers like number fifteen.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Oh, this one's number.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Player number one, So whoever was wearing number one during
this series of color? But this is a two thousand
dollars pair and I got them for eighty one bucks
on auction on eBay and it was just like it
was just like the best deal ever and that's really
what spurred me to keep just getting these shoes, because
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I would just say, hey, what the other side fifteens
did they have under organ colors? And man, eBay's got
it all there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So I'm just like, dude, for work, eighty one bucks?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
No, you can't be eighty one bucks.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Dude, look at that eighty one dollars. Ok, it's popping.
It's yellow. I wear them.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I could tell you definitely beating them up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, right here a little bit. But I wear them.
I wear them. I wear them.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I warre them all over the University of organ are
it was just like nice shoes.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm like, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
When de rode quickly, man, I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You, no, it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
We're just real, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's it's boots to health and it doesn't get any
more boot than then. You know my trainers that I
wear at the gym, Okay, these are what I'm wearing.
My coach says, do you even fill the ground in these?
When I'm like doing like power burpies and jumps and whatnot,
And I'm like not really. So honestly, there's something to
be said about a good shoot in the gym, you know,
helping me do my squats. Bro, when I'm doing so
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many squats, like, you know, one hundred and fifty squats
in eight minutes or whatever, it's like, yeah, bro, there's
nothing like a nice pair of shoes.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
No, I agree, you have to have a nice pair
of shoes when you work out. That's that's a bust.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And that's that's totally just segues into the Boots to
health mentality, you know. And and I'm sure that there's
people out there who are gonna be like, wow, did
we just have a Nike drop on the show with
rad and you know and logan, Yeah, you did that
just happened, right.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Tell him I want to see my split though.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Oh jeez, brobably love that. Well.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You gotta think Nike is in the Eugene organ Nike
is headquartered world headquarters there, and they just gave that
they gave that school half a billion dollars to build
a state stadiums.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
That's just state of the art.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
At dude, five hundred million dollar endowment from Nike from
Phil Knight, because you know, he is track down USA.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Man, he's the guy, he's.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, And the crazy part is Disney coordinated with
the Universe University organ to create the Duck. So they
had this like bastard version of Donald Duck called Puddles,
And he's a sailor. He's got a hat. He just
looks disgrentled though he doesn't dance, he doesn't flip or
nothing at the show, at the games, he's just like
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he just walks around like a duck.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And I love ducks. So it's a good world for
us to be in.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And hopefully my listener and my viewer is just like
having a good vibe about this, because you know, this
is healthy conversation between two grown men who've never met.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Each other other than this show.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Like we're really just like, hey, Logan's very vulnerable just
to start talking about you know, I came from this background.
My childhood was rough, you know, hanging out with these
dudes when I was ten and they were ten years older. Okay,
going into Philly, Brother of brother City of Brotherly Love,
and all I know and all I know, all I know,
all I know about Philly and the City of Brotherly
(27:49):
Love is the nineties and Kids, the movie Kids where
they were skating and they were just like it was
always skating, and we were skating and we were like yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Kids, and they're like, yeah, Philly, what's up.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You know, watch me take a forty out of the store.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's like, I don't know if you've seen that movie,
but you should check out Kids.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You probably be like, oh, bro, this is the Love
skate Park.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, Love l o V.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's is that the one dude in the one scene
he's talking about having sex with the condom one with
the girls. Is that the movie?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, and he's infected.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, right, right, right, it's it's it's it's it's
pretty real. Right if they talk that, they hit a
real vibe in that movie of like, you know, safe sex,
you know, ejaculate responsibly as a young man. You know, uh,
you know, really it's skateboarding.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Good movie thought. Think about it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's called Kids, right, and it's from the nineties. Some
of you might have seen it already. And if you haven't,
go check out Kids and see. If you're a skater
from the nineties and now you're in your thirties forties,
you'd probably relate or you've probably seen that movie.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, that's a that's a that's an instant classic.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Right, have you even hit thirty? Can I just call
you Disney Channel Gold?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
How old are you?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Twenty six?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
N twenty six? Holy cow?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Man? Are you not doing movies and television or nothing?
You don't have an agent putting you out there. It's
just you hustle. Oh no, I guess Carl's doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Huh, Carl's hustling for me?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
What's up, Carl?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Thanks for sending Logan our way. Dude, It's been a
great chat so far.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
You know, I just want to give you a shout.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Out, Carl is Unless you're Carl, then good one on me, Logan,
good one, shout out Carl Nap.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, Carl Knapp.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
He's your publicist, and you're putting you, putting you out there,
and I hope that there's other things you can spread
your message to, you know. And so when I was
looking over your your your information is talking about how
you know, Boots to Health is just really free for
veterans to reach out to you for free?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Is this free? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
This prog it was completely cost free. And you probably wonder, well, Logan,
how is that the case? You know? In this economy? Well,
to be honest with you, rat I do a lot
of fundraising, and I know one of the barriers for
a lot of these people that I do work with
is the financial means, right, because the stuff that we
do provide obviously has a value behind it. But I
know that what we're providing is a good service and
people should be taking benefit of that, and you know,
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they should be getting those benefits in the first place.
I know the VA has tried to do something very similar,
but there's such a negative connotation behind the VA as
I know that you know, Rad and many other people know,
and we'll say the same thing. It has gone better.
It is getting better one hundred percent, right, but it's
definitely not where it should be still, but it's definitely
progressing in the right way.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And it's better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
You go to England and there's really nothing for their
services after they get out there, just dealing with it. Yeah,
I've worked with veterans on an international level and I've
been so thankful just to have a VA to have
it here where others they're just forced to serve and
then they're yeah, pretty much, I don't know what else
(31:02):
to say, you know, and then they get nothing, there's nothing,
and they and they go through all the same trauma
and they might have been attached to units that come
home who have I mean, so much trauma could be seen.
These guys are sas you know. It's like there's charities
out in England that help them. So it's cool that
you've just dedicated yourself to helping you know, your fellow
(31:24):
veteran learn that they can go to the gym or
that they can reach out through your boots to health, right.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely. I mean if anybody wants,
you know, a programmer or anything like that for finish
related stuff. I mean a lot of military members like
the gym. I mean, from what I've seen, obviously.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
We all know PT exists.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
You all go to get pted, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
The same thing, and why not do that when you
get out?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
So I'm trying to obviously make it out an easy
transition for a lot of people because it just puts
structure in your day round like you said, and just
gives accountability and that discipline piece. And then you're moving,
You're moving and grooving, baby, what else.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Do you want?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know? And then and then you feel like you've
accomplished so much like today, I've already gone to the gym.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
That's right, talking about let's go right.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You know what I'm saying. It's like I've already done it.
I already put in time. I woke up early. I
didn't want to go. I was like, do I want
to go? Do I do not want to go? It's like,
am I gonna? Am I sore? I'm like, oh, do
I have an excuse? And my excuse was like I
don't have an excuse because I told myself I was
gonna do this, and so I just told myself I
have to commit to doing this because I told myself
I would.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's like, hello, but don't you feel better though?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
After?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Though? Oh? I always feel better.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And you know what, sometimes I roll in like a
minute after class starts and I feel totally bad and
I feel like, you know, everyone's looking at me because
they already started the warm ups.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And usually I'm in there for the warm ups.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But I remember people showing up late like I have,
and I'm just happy that they showed up when I
was already there. You know, It's like, oh, hey, so
and so it might be three or five minutes late
to class, but they were hustling across town trying to
get here. That's the effort. And then they get into class.
They just pick up for the next forty nine minutes
of class fifty minutes. It's a class, so it doesn't
matter if you're a little late or you're the perfect
(33:04):
on time fifteen minutes early, stretched out, already touching the
floor with your knees and everything, whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Perfect guy. That's great. To show up. You got to
show up.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
That's the biggest thing. And then after you obviously work out,
you have to get a cup of coffee. Nice traditions.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Oh well, I mean yeah, Usually me and my wife
we go Space Crews for a couple of coffee and
then we have our chat and then she's like, how
is your gym?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And I'm like, this is what's going on today? And
then I go.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Off to work on my wargame life that I do
where I run you know, tactical Airsoft supply here in
Salt Lake City and that houses ten thousand square foot
kill house that I run war fighters through.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That are kids who.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Have asthma, kids who have joined the military, adults now
a military, retired military. You know, people who have never
had the chance to get in things like that and
they get to go and fight each other with Airsoft
training rifles and we just make it a great time.
And then we go out to the desert and do
that on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
So you know, so, shit, where's Utah?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Eight oh one airsoft dot com is my arena and
so if you look up eight oh one Airsoft, it'll
just kind of like have the vibe there. And then
Utaught Airsoft is a good resource on Facebook. So if
you're on Facebook, U taught Airsoft or any social media
and it just it's just wargames.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Dude. It's like shoulder to shoulder.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You get a guy like yourself, O three eleven doesn't
have much you know, running around oh three eleven anymore,
but you kind of want it because it's in you
and it's like, well you can come fight with us
shoulder to shoulder. And then you meet this kid next
to you who has asthma and he's like, hey, what
do you do and you're like, oh, as in the Marines. Ah, awesome,
Now he gets to fight next to somebody who wore
that title. Or you know, some guys are still in
(34:40):
and they're coming out, you know, Okay, where else can
you put you know, some gangsters against police officers and
put them in a meat grinder and let them shoot
each other and then shake hands and do it again.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Okay, I mean other than playing GTA. I don't think anything.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm telling you, I do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
They come in, they take their badges off, they put
them away, they put their combat gear on, and everybody's
like same team kind of attitude in the arena.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
The rules are respect, integrity, and safety. You're going to
adhere to it. There's zero tolerance for derogatory comments to
one another. This is a learning environment and a gym
with a sporting mentality, and that is what I run
here in Utah, aside from doing the podcast.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know you do the podcast and that that's insane.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You's well yeah, and well yeah, and so right now,
that's why we're doing such an early morning sash is
because after we're done here, I drive thirty minutes north
and I open up at noon.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
So boom, boom boom.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
What's busy for you right now?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Well, right now in Utah, it's eleven ten.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Okay, you're two hours behind me.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, Mountain standard time.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, you're where are you at you in Pennsylvania still
coast Amish Country.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Where are you at?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I'm not in Mechanicsburg right now.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Mechanics Burg.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, your name Harris, No, but is that Amish Country.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
No, Amish Country. Man is like out near.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Lancaster, Lancaster. Yeah, my friend, he's my friend lives here.
He's from Lancaster. We always ask him about Amie Country.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah. You know, you gotta be very careful of doing
business with those people. Though.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Business is business. Okay, that doesn't change lights on, lights off.
Business is business. Bro, Okay, I understand. Yeah you do, bro,
Yeah you do. It's a whole nother vibe out there.
It's like and they could dig a hole with thirty
other brethren real quick. No, the barn Raisings are awesome, Okay, people,
(36:34):
great people. Them food, Yeah, all their handmade crafts, everything,
the butter that they churn, yeah, dude.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Makes some women actually do make some good desserts though,
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well yeah, and honestly, like they're so crafty and they're
so workmanship. It's just like in built inside of all
of their DNA. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know. They all move the farm together in a
day yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Mean, definitely hardworking people.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I gotta give that to them, definitely, I do. I do.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Now, let me ask you about your book. It's Sneakers
to Eternity, something we can go see. Is that something
you want to discuss a little bit?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Oh so obviously, Rad, that's a little bit about obviously
what they're putting out. So essentially everything I told you, right,
they're putting it together a book essentially my life, you know,
up to this point, you know, there's the big transformation
of where I begin and where I'm at right now,
because everybody in America loves a underdog story right right.
And to be quite frank with you, I've been doing
this for a couple of years, like I said, and
(37:28):
you know, being expelled from high school and not really
having any business acumen behind me, you know, it's very
very very impressive to be where I'm at right now.
To be quite frankly, I've been very blessed and I
have a good bunch of people around me that support
me and believe in what I'm doing, and I'm very
thankful for that.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
So well, I am happy to have had you on
the show and wrapped with you for like the last
forty five minutes about just you know, Boots to Health
moving that program out to our listeners so that someone
can just reach out.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
What's the website for.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
That, Yeah, if anybody's interested to go to WA Boots
to Health Foundation.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Dot org Boots to Health Foundation dot org. And what
we'll do is we'll put UH a you know, a
little blur below on software dot com that has that
broken out with you know, the contact infos. Soon will
just click on it. So if you're out there listening
or watching this episode and you're wanting to learn more
about Boots to Health and how you can take advantage
(38:21):
of this free program that Logan UH has put together,
probably with a team. I'm sure it's not. Is it
just you or is there some Carls obviously around?
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Well, i'd be crazy though, right, Just look.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
At me, though, you're just juggling it.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
But you know that's what we do. You know, I
could be a court jester.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Let me just say, I juggle it all day long, bro,
all day long.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Oh yeah, every single day.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
But listen, I would love to have you back on
the show, you know, and we can discuss further, you know,
and see how the organization's.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Been going and doing and you know, you.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Can talk about like last time we talked, there was
this many enrolled. This time, you know, seven eight months later,
we've got this many people who've reached out thanks to
the show, because it's just gonna, like you know, hopefully
get you some endowments and somebody that can help put
some of that in your coffers, right, like you are
open to a deduction or mean, excuse me, it would
be a deduction for a five oh one C three
(39:23):
if somebody wanted to donate to your program, Boots to
Health the Foundation, right.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah, we are if I have on one C three
federally registered, Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Sir, that's right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And so you know, if you're out there and you're thinking, oh,
I got a little bit of extranss and I want
to just donate it, then you should reach out to
Boots to Health at that foundation. Is it Boots to
Health Foundation dot org?
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Boots to Health Foundation dot Org.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
All right, well, thank you so much for being on
the show with me today and Logan Spiwick, you have
been pretty pretty cool, bro. I would love to hang
out with you, and I think that you're cool like that,
and I just I want you to walk around a
little taller today, feeling good about yourself, and you seem
like a really chill dude, and uh, you know, and
(40:08):
I love how you say, Rad. You know, you're like,
you'll now, Rad, this is what's up, Brad. I'm like,
what's up, Philadelphia. I appreciate it, Bro, Mike Schmidt, Bro
from the Philadelphia. Okay, let's go Mike Schmidt, dude, baseball.
Let's talk old school. Okay, Mike Schmidt. You know I
have his baseball cards, one of my favorite players ever.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Wait real quick, how old are you though? Before before
you hang up?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Three thousand, seven hundred and twenty seven. But I live
in the fountain of youth, so I look this good.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Hey man, You're blessed.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Thank the Lord, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Nineteen seventy seven, dude, that's my year of the birthteen.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
That's why I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Forty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Forty seven, that's right. That's what's up. Rock and roll, baby,
rock and roll. Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I went to an alternative high school all four years
of summer school. You went to school for four years
of it?
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, dude, what did you do?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I just I had a skate shop.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I had a skateboard shop when I was thirteen, and
I was just working and had a skateboard shop and
a snowboard shop with an arcade in it.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
And I was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and I was just like.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
At school, work, school, work, work, school work, school. I'm
employing my friends. They're getting work credit going to school.
We go to the same alternative school. And then the
teacher shows up at my job and he's like, you
know what, rat, I'm all what. He's like, You're the
only student I've ever had to have sign off on
other students who work for them to get credit for school.
It's like, I know, what a great thing we figured
out how to get credit at school for working for me.
(41:36):
So all my homies that were skaters had a job
at my shop and they all got like three extra
credits a year for working at my shop. So I
helped them all graduate. So, you know, yeah, skate shop, dude.
So I just didn't really go to school too much, dude.
I was always skateboarding, driving a link In town car,
a seventy six linc In town car, by the way.
It was a big fat boat and just probably you know,
(41:57):
you would have hung out with me.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Due honestly, you probably smoked weed when we were younger together.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Bro, I tell you what, dude or older, because today
is uh still hello, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Who's around? Just kidding.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Online?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It is it live? Yeah, we're still rolling, bro. I
don't care. I'm cool like that, man.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So you know what, I got veteran friends who are
it just sues their soul. Okay, they eat a little
gummy and uh away go the demons. Yeah yeah, And
it's all about get rid of those demons.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
If you can't go outside and you can't hike them out,
and you can't snowboard or you can't go swimming in
your local pool, you know you gotta do some.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Thrills before pills.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Okay, thrills before pills.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Go do something with yourself.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Go to the gym, Go try boxing, you know, because
the thrill for boxing for me is like I might die.
The thrill for snowboarding for me is like I might
hit a tree and die. The thrill for me going
to work every day is I gota drive on the
freeway and I swerve in it out of and I
might get hit and die. There's a lot of adrenaline
(43:03):
that we live through in our lives. Oh you got
an escale. I don't have an escalator. I have a
I have a ninety three jeep wrangler yj red.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Is it tricked out, it's tricked over.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's got a six inch lift and it's got thirty
threes on it and some tread. Just got some new
shoes for it. So uh, it's my daily commuter to work.
So if you see me rolling through the Utah Valley,
throw out the peace sign.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
No problem. I'm easy like that. That's what's up.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I thought I was letting the show go. But if
you've listened this long to the show, to my listener,
let me tell you one more thing. There is a
product that has just started coming out and you might
have heard of it. It's called the Scrubba, and it
is a washing machine in a five ounce bag for
those of you that do three eleven work with a ruck,
for those of you that are out there in the
stinky jungle, rotted feet and you want your socks cleaned
(43:51):
and your skivvies all cleaned. It can hold two pairs
of socks and a pair of underwear inside the Scrubba,
and you sit there and in ten minutes you have
washed clothes in the field. All right, So go check
out Scrubba and you might hear me do an ad
on softwarep about it because they've come on board. So
scrubb a check out Scrubba and get yourself clean, right,
get that washing machine five ounces of cleanness?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Have you?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean, if you've ever been on a rock march
or climbing a mountain and we're dirty, you can clean
your clothes in ten minutes. It's a washing machine in
a bag, just like that shout out with scrub daddy,
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Well listen, Logan, you have been great, and it's boots
to Health Foundation dot org. And if anybody has any questions,
go check that url out and if you are going
to the gym, get in there, work out.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Check out the book club.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Big shout out to Brandon Webb who always allows me
to take the control of the mic here and host
our wonderful guests. And thanks again to Carl for sending
you over our way. You've been a pleasure to have
on the show, Logan, and we'd love to have you back.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
It was a pleasure gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
All right, well perfect and again this is rad On
behalf of our merch store at soft rep dot com,
saying peace.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You've been listening to self rep radio mm hmm
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