Zeroed In: Former SEAL Team Six Rob O'Neill on Life, America & Beyond with SOFREP's Brandon Webb

Robert J. O’Neill is one of the most highly decorated combat veterans of our time. He served at SEAL Team Two, SEAL Team Four and eight years at the legendary SEAL Team Six. Having taken part in and leading over 400 combat missions, Rob operated in Liberia, The Balkans, The Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean, Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Having been decorated 53 times, his awards include two Silver Stars for gallantry in action against the enemy, four Bronze Stars with Valor to denote heroism against the enemy, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, a Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit Commendations and three Combat Action ribbons to name a few. Some of Rob’s qualifications include Military Free-Fall Jumpmaster, Tandem Tethered Bundle Master, Naval Special Warfare Scout / Sniper, Breacher, Master Naval Parachutist, Master Training Specialist, Diving Supervisor, Range Officer in Charge for Small Arms, Close Quarters Battle, Breaching, Laser System Safety Officer among many others. Rob took part in the rescue for Operation Red Wings, which extracted the Lone Survivor, Marcus Luttrell, he was the lead jumper for the rescue operation that saved Captain Richard Phillips from Somali pirates and he was a Team Leader for Operation Neptune’s Spear, the mission to kill Osama bin Laden. Rob is co-founder of Special Operators Transition Foundation, specializing in assisting Special Operations Forces veterans with the successful transition from the service into their next great career in corporate America. Rob is the author of the NY Times and London Times Best Selling Memoir THE OPERATOR: Firing the Shots that Killed Osama bin Laden and My Years as a SEAL Team Warrior. Rob has been interviewed on Fox News, CNN, CBS, Newsmax and others.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's different, Like America has better infrastructure, better flying culture.
But the fact that I created my plane over here
in a container twenty foot container, just took the wings
off and then put it.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Back together, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
But now it's here and it's US registered, no one
can with me like they I got into one argument
with the controllers because I had to install a new
radio and the guy forgot to connect the antennas. But
it was they tried to like give me ship and
I was like, they're like, oh, what's your what's your
European license number? I was like, I'm an American pilot, and

(01:17):
there's like a fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
That person like that's like the scene and spies like us,
it's okay, we're Americans and I'm sudden you're hanging upside down.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing flying. So I'm in this summer,
I'm gonna like road trip all around Europe, Switzerland, Italy, France,
so it'll be a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
No kidding. How's your how's your how's your language skills?
You're speaking anything else?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, living where I live, you really don't need
to speak anything but English. But I'm learning Portuguese like a.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Little oh yeah, that's that's a good one. Well Portuguese
is gonna take over just because of the m m A. Yeah,
that's yeah. Basically that's just a cool language. Portuguese sounds
like a warriors language, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, especially the European Portuguese. It is definitely. I mean
I read the history of Portugal on movie here and
it is a very violent history. Yeah, there a lot
of a lot of that going around, definitely colonizers.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I went down to I gave a speech speech in
salth Paolo a couple of months ago in Brazil, and yeah, man,
that's just And I've never been to a place where
there was such little English being spoken, like zero English,
Like like you go to France to try to speak French,
I'll just say, look, my English is better than your French.
Let's just talk English. But yeah, I went to try
to get an iPhone charger in salth Paolo and the

(02:39):
woman that was working didn't even understand iPhone, which I
thought was universal.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I haven't been to Sal Pauliat, but I heard it's
pretty sketch, Like you can't sketchy ship.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, that's I guess Rio is the place to go
in some part South Paalo. I was hosted by a
really really great company. Great dude, and he was like, yeah,
there's a a lot of murders here, a lot, so
don't tell you you don't need to be venturing out
of the hotel, which is which is fine with me.
I'm at the point in life where I can just
sit in my hotel and be fine.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
No, I know, honestly, like I'm where was I? I
was in Paris. No, I was in Madrid at the
fourth season, and one of my friends had given me
ship and I was like, look, man, I fucking slept
in caves in Afghanistan. Like I don't fourth season, I'm
all about it, man, give me.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, give me a spot. Oh I'm good to go.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'll do. I'll get a pedicure. I don't care.
This is I'm not sleeping with pitt vipers in a
damn hole. I dug.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So, dude. I think the last time I saw you
was at my friend John Bush's rooftop right before COVID
in New York.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That is true that I thought we had a lot
of a good spring and summer coming up in New
York and then that hit. It's like, what the hell
was that?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean that pushed me out out of the
city for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well we did too, we moved to Tennessee. So that
was Tennessee was a different animal than New York because
in New York, I was they completely lost their shit.
But in Tennessee everyone's like, what does this even mean?
And they decided it's like, well, if you go golfing,
just don't touch the same pin. Okay, that'll stop GOVID.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean, not to go on a COVID tangent. But
I was shocked at just how the level of stupidity
that existed, because I had my home in Puerto Rico
and they're like, oh, you can't go surfing, Like dude,
I can't like paddle out in the ocean and then
surf because like, what's that going to do like spread
COVID in the marine life?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like it was just so no, it's oh, it's ridiculous too.
And then you, I mean, look at how people were
tell just dying to tell on their neighbors. People were
dying to yell each other about mass I mean, I
remember in the city they literally had cops going around
on Saturdays knocking on houses asking for Jews. I don't

(04:51):
know if they know their history, but that's happened a
lot before and it never ended well. And NYPD was
doing it's like, why are you well, I don't know.
The mayor told is because the governor said, it's like,
look at what you're doing, man, this people lost their minds.
And then the passport to get in, like you don't
need an ID to vote, but you can't go to
a restaurant unless you got the JAB And it's like,
what the hell is going on here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And then people like even I know very smart people
in New York like given some friends, but they we
don't just we disagree, uh politically quite to the extreme.
But and people wonder why Trump got elected right like
and and everything he's doing now dismantling I think it's great,

(05:31):
Like I'm like, good, no, it is.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Great too well, I mean and too just again at
the level of stupidity, like there are people that want
Elon Must to fail and Tesla to fail because all
he's doing is showing the corruption and the people like
this this the politicians have been stealing from you all
this time. He's showing you what it is in your
chairing against him.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's just a Costio's comments for great. She's like, Oh,
he's not even an engineer, and he's just a guy
that like watches the rocket get caught by the catcher,
you know. And I'm like, how stupid can you be?
Like this guy literally single handedly save the US space program, right,
among a lot of other things.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
The guys, the fucking one.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Of the richest guys in the world donating his time
for free. He's not doing it to make make more money, right,
And it's just like ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
But yeah, it's well, I mean, he rescued the people,
the astronauts from the ISS and doesn't even get coverage
Like Joe Biden could have rescued him a long time
because Elon Musk offered, but he wouldn't for political reasons.
That's what the swamp does. They don't give a shit
about people. They care about their personal power, and it's
just it's almost frustrating to watch people, uh just fall

(06:42):
in line like even like a rage against the machine. Hey,
why are you cheering for the machine? Guys?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I thought, Oh, I know, that's crazy, that's crazy, But.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
It doesn't make it doesn't make sense to me. I'm
not gonna have an aneurysm trying to figure it out.
But it's just just common sense is in common It's
to a point, like even cancel culture. I've been canceled
before for telling the truth. It's like, you you can't
tell the truth because you might offend stupid people.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I know, it's it's something I actually I was
just prepping for the interview. And even the cancel culture.
Like I would say that the conservatives in the US
really complain about the cancel culture, but they can be
just as bad. Like even Yah, you know, you and
I have talked about that. Just the way that the

(07:25):
community eats their own and like the latest with with
Tim Kennedy and I called Tim. I was like, hey, man,
like I got your back, dude. It's just like ultimately,
I mean personally, I think Tim's a good guy, is
good stuff. And just the fact that people just like
trying to look at any little thing to like tear
each other down. It's just a shame, you know. And

(07:46):
it's the same thing like rising tide lifts all ships.
I don't know what to call the drainage, but it's
like you take everybody down, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's it too. Just cheering for someone's failure doesn't make
sense to me. It's like Governor Tim Wall's cheering for
Tesla stock going down, which I bought a ton of
today because that's not going anywhere anywhere but up. But yeah,
just the negativity and the uh. I remember my first
day at Red Squadrons at Seal Team six, the commanding
officer said, when we retire, which will happen if we

(08:17):
all work together, we could all be millionaires. But it's
never going to happen. And it didn't make sense to me.
He just kind of knew. Is like, for some weird reason,
a lot of these veterans do not want to work together.
And that I mean, man, imagine if we took all
of us and just like did something like if we
decided to make the best windows for houses, we would
make the best windows for houses as a team. But
for some damn reasons, like well I don't like the

(08:37):
way he built the windows, so fuck that guy. It's
like what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean I've I've written about a bunch and
I and I thought about like how to fix it,
and I mean, just speaking on the seal side, I
think the only way to really make the situation better
is you need a official alumni. Not not this bullshit
seal reunion which is basically just a drinking contest. That

(09:03):
an official alumni. You know, guys that serve, they volunteer
to be president or whatever. And it's that bridge between
the active duty community and the guys outside because I mean, honestly,
like you and I both submitted our books through the
duty review process and you know, but we probably could

(09:24):
have published, you know, went it went down the other
route too and published it and maybe we get it recalled.
Maybe not. But but if you have this like professional
alumni association, they can at least communicate to the guys
in the outside and say, hey, guys, we'd really like
it if if you're going to write a book, just
make sure you submit it. We really don't want you
talking about this stuff. It creates the kind of communication

(09:47):
bridge and then somebody to be an adult in the room.
It's it's like I watched this drive to survive Formula
one on Netflix, and you see a lot of the
similarities between the teams and the team managers for F
one because everyone shit talking each other, but there's limits
because the F one board will be like, hey, guys, enough,
you know, you got to like take a time out.

(10:09):
And I just feel like having that official association would
go a long way to making sure that we just
play nicer together on the outside, because I like seeing
guys like you, Jocko whoever doing well. You know, it's like, yeah,
I helped Mike Ritlin get his book deal direct with
Saint Marn's pros. I'm extremely happy to help guys like that,

(10:32):
and it should be the way.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
There should be something. I mean, even guys who have
been out who can assist guys with stuff like that,
with the process, because it's important, I think, for people
to know their history. I personally was really happy that
George Washington brought a biographer with them when he crossed
the Delaware to fight the Hesians. Like that, that's good
to know the history, and guys should tell their history
as long as has done the right way, as long
as you're not you know, have a group to help

(10:57):
people do that and then tell the story because even
with like seal training, like even dudes that quit will
have a unique story someone will be interested in and
like everything from from the transition process to little things
like here's the shoes you wear with a suit, spit
the goddamn dip out when you're doing the interview. Just
helping each other like that. But I mean that makes

(11:17):
sense to it with the community of and if there's
an issue instead of blasting each other, just talk about
it in a room and get over it, you know
that then we could all of us, every branch could
do that. But I mean, especially in the in the
seal teams. Now, I don't. I don't want it to
be a spot where the word brotherhood makes her think yeah,
maybe maybe not. I'm not digging that. When when if
we if seriously we move forward together even to like

(11:39):
how hard is it when someone says, hey, you know
this guy, Yeah, what do you think of stud that's
not hard to say?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean just and all. I remember Smitty
Rob Smith, the rusco founder, was saying he was at
war Com and he was like he was telling me
how ridiculous it was. There was like a PowerPoint slide
and they're briefing on the decay of the seal culture,
and it was like Marcus the Trell, myself, maybe you Chris.

(12:08):
It was like everybody off on this PowerPoint side and
it's like, dude, not once did anyone for morecom reach
out to me? Ever and not saying and for sure.
It's like guys, like you're worrying about us, like you
got bigger problems.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there are problems in there
they could be handling instead of like, yeah, I mean
I I like to think I did everything the right way.
I joined the Navy through the front door, I left
through the front door, and did everything right and just
told the truth. It's like, what's the big deal?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And now?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean now too that I've even heard some senior
officers that were upset about some books being written. They're saying, well,
now is the time for people to tell the story.
And that's true for history's sake, but also think about
the recruiting. There's a lot of really good young men
out there that are thinking about being a seal. What
are they going to think when they get on social
media and people just bashed each other. Why would I
want to be a part of that.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
No, it's bad. It's bad. The social media is really bad.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Because yeah, it's a it's the point now to that.
Part of my advice for success is don't check social
media at least until after lunch. Like the first thing
you do is turn on X in the morning, You're
not gonna have a great day. However, if you do
a little meditation, go to the gym, you will be better.
Then when you have the positive you know, pheromones going,
then you can check social media and take it with
a grain of salt.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Maybe yeah, exactly. I want to definitely hear about the
new business, but you want to just like catch me up,
like what are you up to? Like from the last
time we saw saw each other in New York.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, we just uh, you know. Obviously with COVID it
changed everything up. But I was about that time, right
before COVID, I was given about two hundred and fifty
speeches a year, which turned was like my that's it
would it turned from this could be fun to my income. Uh,
And it's just it was one of those like the
process to get to the airport, to go through security,

(13:48):
to get to an event, to you know, do the
everything with the av check to the meet and greet,
to the photo line.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
There's maybe it's three or four a year, with three
or four and it's an inc convenience for me. I
like to do it.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's fun because well, I got to talk to like
I was at the point I was talking like personally
at about ten thousand people a week. But so I
got to get the pulse of the country, like instead
of believing a bullshit poll, I got to talk to
a lot of people. And I even learned in twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen that I knew that Trump was going to
win before the election because I was I would ask people.
I wouldn't ask him, who are you voting for? I

(14:24):
would say who's your neighbor voting for? And it's like,
there's gonna be a landslide. Donald Trump's gonna win this.
So that was cool. But now I'm you know, getting older,
just had a new kid. My daughter's one, so I've
got three in college and a one year old, which
is just awesome. But I mean as opposed to my
first kids, where I'm you know, being a seal with
training and war, I'm out of the I'm away from

(14:45):
home three hundred twenty days a year. But now I
get to see my daughter and it's like fun. I
enjoy it. I'm older, so it's like I'm the old
dad that goes to the park, but I get to
enjoy it. But I still have to pay the bills,
so I'm trying to figure it. I'm trying to figure
out a way to do a little work from home.
So it's been exciting. It's fun. It's busier. Speaking pays well,
but you got to travel. But other stuff's a blast.

(15:06):
So I'm doing the apparel business, which is a blast.
The sign books have been successful because I don't use
an auto pen like a president sometimes does, and I
don't do I don't do the platelets because that's you know,
you've seen him, just sign the platelets and stick them.
I take orders with inscriptions that people want, and then

(15:28):
I sign it personally, so you know, it takes a
little longer to get a book, but I'm signing it
and some people are funny, man. We have we have
interactions some of these books. My my favorite one to
this day was some dude bought a one of my
books for his buddy's birthday and he had me sign
something like dear Jeff, you kill it selling mattresses like
I killed Bin Lad and love Rob O'Neil, Like it's

(15:49):
funny shit like that. It's an honor too, Like I
get it. I get stuff from from proud fathers that
want to buy their marines a book, and so I
always signed marines in red, put us a good cempify
and they're good stuff. But wait, occasional I'll get some
funny ship that dudes are just like they're ribbing their
friends and I'm just like honored to be a part
of it. So the book sales are fun. I just
got into the cannabis industry, which is really exciting. It's

(16:13):
in right now in New York. We're trying to get
into Florida. Obviously, get down to New Jersey took a
if you can imagine with the New York government, get
about two years to get a license, which is fun.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
But you guys got it. New York is a good
market man because.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
I'm gonna say I'm personally so, I just got stem
cell treatments in Columbia. Yes, but I'm using I was
using edible t C CBD for years to deal with
the pain management.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
So it deals. It deals with the pain really well,
and it deals with other other issues mine personally with
a little bit of PTSD or anxiety. It really helps
because I've noticed too drinking didn't help. And since I've
been in cannabis, like I've never smoked a joint and
then tried to start a bar fight just doesn't happen.
And it does. It does get rid of a lot

(17:07):
of the noise. And and with PTSD, a lot of
a lot of people have it. You don't need to
be a combat that to have anxiety or PTSD. So I've,
as you know, getting away from whiskey and trying psychedelics
and Mexico and stuff like that. It's a shame we
have to go to Mexico when it works. But then
with cannabis, I just I wanted to get into that
and it's a it's been a fun I'm learning a
lot about it, different strains and stuff like that. So

(17:29):
that's it's fun. I get to meet the cannabis community
and they're just a trip man talk about just fun people.
So the cannabis is going well, and then the podcast
is still going. I gotta get you on my podcast
at some point too.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
The operator yeah, man, anytime. So what's the what's the
name of the brand, And there.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's Operator Canna, So it's operator Cannaco dot Com. I'm
gonna make sure of this. Let's seah operator Canna dot
Com ce A N N A. And when you get
on a Operator Canna dot com, you're gonna see the strains.
We have Indica, sat Via, and a hybrid. So the
Indica is like a mellow, it's like chills you out

(18:09):
a little bit. It's more for a like I use
that at night. And then the the sat the Sativa
is it's an energetic strain, and then the hybrid is
is a it's a combination of the two. But they're
really good stuff. We're growing really really good strains. And
we actually have we have these packages that come with
five pre rolls. So like if you our first package

(18:30):
says front toward enemy, it's kind of cool. And then
the other one there's a there's an army manual that
it's an old school like World War two teaching basically
how to shoot like a saving private Ryan Bazuka. So
but and and all it says on it is fire
like this, So but I did that, And it's just
it's a dude instead of a bazuka. He's just holding
a really big joint and those are cool man, seriously,

(18:53):
like instead of and again, look, anything in moderation is fine.
I've just proven to myself that sometimes the booze doesn't work,
I had switch it up.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And no, I mean, I think anyone that's done cannabis
knows that. I think it's it's a lot, a lot
more easy going than than whiskey. But what are you
guys doing edibles too?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Is it just not just yet? We're gonna we'll get
into it. We're doing right now just flower uh and
UH and we're doing the pre rolls. But you know,
we just we've only been operational for a couple of
weeks now, but it's selling really well. People love it.
I love it uh and I enjoyed like I've been
going to UH stores around uh uh Saaten Island, upper
west side of Midtown. I'll be going out to Long Island.
So we're working hopefully up in in Westchester County and

(19:36):
stuff like that. And I've been down to some spots
in in Florida too, Hopefully gonna get into that market.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I hope you got to get the edibles, because not
for me. Every time I come back to the US,
I just stock up on edibles and fly them over there.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, edibles are edibles. They're nice. You gotta you gotta
make sure you know before before you uh you know,
take one, take half of one, and give yourself a
few hours to see how it works.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, for sure. No, that's great, man. So so you've
got the cannabis going and the speaking and any anything
else in the mix.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, I mean we're doing the apparel business. And then
I'm having a blast on the on the Operator podcast. Uh,
I haven't had guess in a while because I've been moving.
I'm still moving into this studio. So it's just you know,
I but it it gives an opportunity because just to
talk about current stuff, for past stuff, for fun stories,
and I'm able to yell at the camera. And then
I look at at the Operator podcast on Instagram and
I actually read the comments there. I won't I won't

(20:33):
read them on AX, I'll read them on Instagram. And
then if but if I say something that's out of
turn or out of line and I wasn't one hundred
percent correct and someone corrects me, I'll actually look it
up and if I'm this is weird. If I'm wrong,
I admit it. Not a lot of people do that.
So I'm just you know, I'm trying to make that work.
And then and then uh yeah, I mean I'll travel stuff,
but I'm I'm really just enjoying it now that you know,

(20:53):
second day of spring and and for yeah, second day spring.
So just looking forward to the spring summer and you know,
raising the kid and hopefully teaching her how to shoot
a basketball or you know, she might just get into
figure skating and princesses, who knows, but whatever she wants.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Now, my daughter's about to graduate from university in London
for industrial design.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
But wow, that's awesome. Yeah, graduating her.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Thanks. Her brother graduated last year from Saint Andrews. I
actually sent Hunter, the older brother, because of the wacky
DEI stuff in college because this kid, this kid graduated
four point three gpa, was a nationally ranked debate champion.
Oh wow, all American and he couldn't get into Stanford.

(21:38):
And like the college counselor is like, yeah, he's he's
white and you you have too much income, so he's
not going to get into any of these ivy schools
that he wants. So I just said, you know what,
all right, just go to the UK. So we sent
him to Saint Andrews in Scotland.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So do you guys not as bad in the UK? No,
not at all, I thought. I still didn't know.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean, you have you have, it's not compared to
how bonkers the US is not even close.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
So I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, no, it was way away. But I still believe
in the meritocracy over here. But he's yeah, my old yeah,
go figure. But yeah, he's got a software company now
he's doing really well. But yeah, I can't imagine because
I'm still single. I'm like, and I inevitably the problem
I have is these girls want a baby, and I'm like,

(22:32):
you and I don't both know. Like, it's a lot
of responsibility and a lot of fucking work.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, it's it's funny with my uh, with my older daughters,
my my my new daughter. It's like, well that was easy.
Let's just do that whole thing again.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And I'm done. If my youngest son goes so he
goes to uh University of Oregon next year, and I'm done. Man,
I paid for all the college, all the child support,
So I'm like out of the woods. I don't know
if I'm right.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I had a little child support to pay too,
and now I'm looking forward to nothing but paying for weddings.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, it's fun though It's like, I mean, it is
a lot of work, but boy, it's it just there's
I mean, there's nothing else like it. So that's and Oregon.
What's that going to be like because they're a little
uh out there. This is Eugene, Oregon, isn't it the Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I mean it's that my ex moved out there with
their husband. He's a super nice guy. And I mean
I feel like, I mean, Portland has its issues, but
they're really trying to like rewind a lot of this
like this failed yeah, the failed cultural experiment. That's that
took what.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
An amazing city Portland used to be. Hopefully it gets back.
We did, ah, I actually led a block of training
up there for urban terrain. We brought everyone like g
F one sixty, the entire squadron, oh man, and it
was I mean just like I remember going to Wineharves
and Voodoo Donut and walking around Portland and like the
beer was awesome, the food was incredible that people were great.

(23:58):
There's I mean, if you've ever been to a Trailblazers game,
I think they've sold out every game since they won
it in like nineteen seventy seven. Just rip city, baby,
and then obviously let the liberal communists come in and
just destroy everything like locus like they do everywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh it was a shame because I remember that that
exercise because my friend Bill owns the stargates or farms,
and he had a restaurant right downtown in the Pearl District.
He's texted me He's like, dude, I got like little
birds like flying up skyscrapers vertically. He's like, this is crazy, man,
like TF one sixty.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah. Yeah, we were doing those pilots too. I mean,
obviously the best in the world, but doing like lip
landings on skyscrapers just that it's just I don't care
who you are, I don't care how many times you've
done it. Every time you're on the edge of a
little bird flying around the city. It's like, chicks dig this,
this is cool. I love this fun there. Yeah, flat

(24:50):
and of course too, like we had the best FTX.
We had an FTX planned at the Capitol where we
were actually going to do a hay ho in there.
We actually surveyed ops on right in front. We were
gonna do a hostage rescue for with the The governor
was going to be the hostage. We're gonna go get
up and go through a secret passage and it's gonna
be awesome. We had it all set up and then
the uh like the local government decided that black helicopters

(25:12):
were They're like, yeah, well you're just invade. This is
you invading Portland. It's like, we're the US military. We're
not invading you. We're come on, this is cool.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's crazy. But I actually owned. I owned when my
kids were younger, I would I bought a condo in
the Pearl District downtown Portland, amazing loft right near the
ri I, and then oh yeah, I ended up selling
it right as COVID hit. I have this like squatter
Airbnb tenant. I'm like, hey man, this place is for sale.

(25:45):
You gotta get out. But yeah, I seen the degradation
of the Pearl District, like with my own eyes over
a few years. They have a drug encampment. They just
cordoned off this parking lot like right in the center
of the Pearl District with these guys are shooting up
and they have like portable showers and bathrooms, and it

(26:06):
just went crazy. My daughter's car got broken into. I
was like shocked, man. But obviously, yeah, not not good
for the home value or the numberho aesthetic at all.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
And that never works too. I don't know why they
keep re electing the same people that I used to
give speeches a lot in San Francisco because a lot
of companies wanted to have conventions there, because that's one
of them. Used to be one of the most beautiful
cities in the world. San Francisco manage gorgeous. Now I
was there maybe a year ago, and it's just like
you get a nice view off the bridge you go
into the city. Bro, it's it's just bad. Like I mean,

(26:41):
there's there's something off putting about stepping in human shit
for no reasons there all.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Over the place. Yeah, even you know, Venice had its.
You know, I would say it's charm for years because
it had you know that that's street culture. But it's
gotten out of control, like Santa Monic events. It's an Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I was down at the pier like maybe a year
and a half ago.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, it's a shame. And I mean politically, I think
I don't know if you have any opinions, but I
I think honestly that if you want to like fix
the problem, I mean, I think it's obvious for me anyway.
Now I live in in the Portugal two years. The
healthcare is better, the food is better. America is an
amazing country, but we have the education, Like kids shouldn't

(27:27):
graduate high school with good grades and have to pay
four hundred thousand dollars in student loans to get a
decent education. If your kid gets cancer and you don't
have money to pay for the best treatment, America is
rich enough to like give the kid the best treatment
on the planet. Just things like this, and then you
get these you know, this political system that delivers, you know,

(27:51):
really bad choices every four years. But term limits, like
you get the average average age of the House and
Senate it's like close to seven. Now, it's like God's
waiting room.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Essentially, we have people dying in office, we have people
who are living in retirement homes and their staffers are
going to vote for them. It's it's it's so out
of line. Term limits obviously, I mean, that's the that's
the first thing that needs to happen, and then there's
also there needs to be that hope. Hopefully. Pete Heigsath
Secretary Hegseth puts in that where if you when you
leave as the military, you can't work for a contractor

(28:24):
for at least seven years, should be ten. But just
the good old boy network in that swamp and decisions.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's your point, right, these four stars, I mean it
should be anybody, right, because that's what they get. They
get them and they just suck the content. And it's
the contracts don't go to the best vendor, they go
to the good old boy network.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
And that's that's I mean, that's the reason that Afghanistan,
Vietnam I racked. That's the reason we leave everything behind
and they'll say, well, just more expensive to bring it home,
like they give a shit about how much it costs. No,
they leave it there so that they're friends that are
building tanks, can build more tanks. That's it everyone's getting.
I mean, like we basically we invaded Iraq because George

(29:07):
Bush didn't like what Saddam Hussein tried to do to
his dad. But Dick Cheney can get really rich because
Halliburton will be everywhere. And that's exactly what happened. It's
like what I mean, and you see it all the time.
That's why the right now, the way that I mean,
Senator Kennedy from Louisiana said at best right now, he said,
you start trimming the fat, and the pigs are going
to squeal. That's what they're doing because big time. None

(29:28):
of the money that the taxpayers are paying is going
to anywhere good except for the pockets of people based
on shell companies for how can they uplift voting awareness
in Liberia? And the last time I was in Liberia
was two thousand and three. I didn't see a lot
of voting booths. The only thing I saw was civil
war and cannibalism. Where's that money going.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
In the state department. We did a big article on
that to state before Trump got elected. But yeah, it
was like the state departments that I think twenty thousand
dollars hosting a tranny show in El Salvador to promote
American America is great abroad, like insane. You know, my
tax peremoney going.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
They had so many transgender plays around the world they
were paying for whatever. And I remember my initial thought was,
you know, I definitely want to see that. I want
to watch it. I just don't want the taxpayer paying
for it. That I mean, I guarantee that's a great play.
I want to go stop give me the bill though, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
But I think the term limits vote. How about we
vote by phone like biometrics. We can bank on here
have our most sensitive information, but we cannot. We're still
filling in bubbles with a with a pen.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, we get the winner. We get the winner of
American Idol within a few hours and there's millions of votes. Yeah,
we can't. We had to go no idea. I voted
in New York for the first time this last election.
There was a dude out front, no kidding, screaming he
worked there, a government ployee screaming, no ID, no ID,
do not pull out ID. It's like, what are you doing?

(30:58):
And even if you like, even if you ask people,
because they say, well, people from underprivileged communities don't get ID.
That's the most racist ship you can say. Ask anybody
out there, hey, are you smarter to get an idea
or use the internet? They'd punch in the face. Well,
the politicians are saying that that you're too stupid, and
that's what they do, and they and they, and yet
a lot of people still vote Democrats. Don't know why. Yeah,

(31:19):
And for the record too, I'm not a Republican. I'm
a registered independent.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I am to My last crazy idea is I think
the presidential term should be a flat term, either six
or eight years, one and done, because then it's like,
you get what Trump's doing now, he doesn't give a
ship about the polls. He's like, I'm just gonna do
what I think is is right for the country, regardless
of you.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Know, totally got to figure too. I mean, look at, uh,
what what does a president in a in a term
start doing? As soon as the midterms are coming up,
they start it's all running again. Yeah, give him a
bit one big long term and that's it. You're good,
you're done, and that that's and then and then with
the Congress, uh to your term might be too short
because they get, they get they swear in, then they

(32:04):
start campaigning again.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah. No, I didn't they the term limit, especially for
the president, because any if it's so short, such a
short cycle, to your point, especially if it's if it's
a second term president really after two years or they
become a lame duck. And and then guys like Putiner's
using ping that is outweight outweaited. It's like, yeah, we
do what ever he wants, wait till that guy, that

(32:26):
guy's out of there.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, but yeah, we have They've been around forever. They're
not changing. And yeah, and and then just with our
political system, the way that a lot of politicians both
sides use the stuff like social media like that a
lot of a lot of youth in this country doesn't
realize that the algorithm the TikTok is using. The Chinese
doesn't even let their own youth see it. And we're
pretty much the only country that makes our kids hate themselves.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
And it's all, yeah, the TikTok thing. I'm shocked because
we for a long time, we just the guys coming
to me like, hey, we need softwarep on TikTok, and like, guys,
this can't last because they're collecting data on the US
kids like they've got on like outlaw, and it just
keeps going like all right, maybe we should have got
on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I was thinking about that too, because I mean, I've
got millions of views on TikTok. I don't have an
account for a number of reasons, but I mean one
of them is just general principle. Also too, I don't
want to give my my infot play. And I'd be
a hypocrite if I would tell people don't be on TikTok,
and then I'm on TikTok. But and I mean, you
got I mean, it is funny to watch, but it's
on purpose where you get You start getting roped into

(33:31):
these funny videos. All of a sudden you get one
about how America is the most racist country in the
history of racism. And it's just and people are they're
buying it. It's just a shame that entertainment is. We're
so secluded that we haven't really most people haven't really
been to war. We don't realize just because we're not
at war with something doesn't mean they're not at war
with us. And this is all it's all. I mean
everything from go to the campus of NYU or Columbia.

(33:53):
Look at how many spies are there from China.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean you can see the propaganda and the New
York subway system like this, or SVR propaganda. But yeah, no,
and you I mean, look, you just have to look
at history to understand that there's a reason the governments
have always had a tight grip, especially the communist or
authoritarian governments that always have a tight grip on the media,

(34:17):
because if you control the communication and the messaging, you
control the population. And that's TikTok man. And it's like
targeting the youth of America. And people just have no idea.
But you wonder why this country is like in such
a tail spin. You know, it's like an America needs
to get its shit together.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
What do you think is you have more experience in
the media than I do. And I've you know, I've
been on pretty much every station. I've dealt with producers
and on air talent, and they're all I've had other
than NPR. I've had really good experiences everywhere, and the
producers are always great. The on air talent is really
smart and very professional. But there are people on certain
networks that are blatantly lying, And I want to know

(34:58):
why they know what they're saying is bullshit? What is
their take? What are they getting out of lying? The power?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well they here, there's all sorts of dynamics of play
what I've seen because I've done and then lived in
New York City. So there are certain on air personalities
that take more of an interest in the in their monologue.
And there's certain like big names. I don't want to
throw anyone under the bus, but I don't see I'm
not going to get invited back too. There are these

(35:26):
big names that they don't care. They let some twenty
four year twenty three, twenty four year old intern write
their monologue. They have no idea because I've been on
some of these big shows and I've I've asked questions
back and forth, and it's like a I'm looking at
the host and it's like a dog staring at a
ceiling fan looking back at me, and I'm like, Okay,

(35:46):
this guy has no idea about this topic. And and
it's just they're just there sitting in the seat. They
come in, they put on the steam suit, they get
in the seat, and they just read the monologue that's
written for them by their team, and then they're out.
And they don't they don't fact check. They don't, not
all of them. But but a lot of this happens, and.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
And what they're doing too that people don't realize is
they they got an earpiece and that same producer that
wrote the monologues in their ear and they're the one
fact checking person. Nah, I mean depends on what they
want the facts to be. But they'll just rip it
to them and they'll just repeat. It's you know, at
a lot of that happens and just no.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's crazy. And and I think that the American media,
I it's tough because like how do you police it?
Because I do believe in free speech, But the media
needs to understand they can do a lot of damage.
Like even you know, it's like okay, now they're back
on the hate Trump thing. Yeah, but they're they need

(36:44):
to realize, like they they they can do a lot
of damage and they sway public opinion. Or the first
time Trump got elected, they this whole Russia Gate thing,
which is complete bullshit, like, look, we don't have to
be Russia's best friend, but we have a lot in
common and there's no reason to make an enemy out
of Russia.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
And they both they can't agree with anything. The Vladimir
Putin and Donald Trump had an hour or so conversation
a couple of days ago, and blah blah blah, yeah,
there was nice cities because Trump knows just calling him
a tyrant's not going to help. You don't want to
insult them, butter them up a little bit. But if
you can sift through the bullshit, the realization of Russia

(37:24):
and the United States both agree that Iran should never
get a nuclear weapon. That enough. That's enough right there
for you would think some of the Democrats across the
island and say, yeah, I agree with that, but no,
I mean, look at look at Chuck Schumer, who is
one of the worst of the worst. He he votes
for a bill that that Donald Trump liked. They're coming
after him now too, and the fangs are just out.

(37:44):
They're just coming. I mean, they're eating their own. They
don't care. And there's no leadership there in the Democrat
Party either. And it's almost depressing as an American to
realize that, you know, like, well, the years of the
Kennedy Democrats are gone, but just to just to see
them just implode with there's no like, yeah, we need
a fresh face like Bernie Sanders, so he should go
on tour with AOC who plans like you know, Jenny

(38:06):
from the block who went to I think high school
scars in Scarsdale, not the Bronx, but whatever. It's just
it's like I'd always hoped that, again, I'm an independent,
but I'd always hope that combat vets who get into
office both sides of the aisle could at least get
together if you get imagine if you had like a
group of combat veterans Democrats Republicans walking down the hallways

(38:30):
in DC and whipping up votes, they could get more
of a following than just their stupid party leadership that
will primary you if you say anything. You get a good,
solid group like that, it could do something. But there's
no leader, especially on the left, there's just no leadership.
No one's gonna step up. Everyone's hate Trump, I hate
Elon Musk, and let's go firebomb Tesla trucks Like, okay,
you're doing that.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's a disaster, man. It's just like this cultural decay,
which makes me sad because I love America and I
thought a lot about it, like, hey, here's how you
fix it. But the only way to fix it, I
think if you look at history, these kind of changes
only come about one way. It's through some type of revolution,
either non violent or violent. And that and that's I mean,

(39:12):
you saw a little bit of that bubble up during
the January sixth uh issues Trump, But people are fucking
fed up, man. And and like I was, I had
a ex girlfriend in Zurich. I was living in Zurich
for six months, and I was the first time in
my life I was like, wow, I can see the
tax money at work, Like this place, literally the town

(39:34):
of Zurich, that was like a well oiled Swiss clock.
I'm like, I would pay the tax I would pay
that people have great healthcare, great education, you know everything. Yeah, no,
we could and we should. And it's just a shame
because you know, in that situation, I would gladly pay
my fair share of taxes.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
No kidding, no kidding, I've said too, because you know,
I didn't know what my f our share was until
I got out of the navy. Uh. And it's you
pay a lot. But like even you know, And it's
not just I love when people they'll ask me to like, so,
how much you are getting back? I'm like getting back, yeah,
checks every quarter man. But I just I'm to a
point seriously where I wish I could just go to

(40:16):
Harlem and find a single parent family and say I'm
gonna buy your apartment now and just buy it. That
would make me feel better instead of just shitting it
to some retard in DC that's gonna wipe his ass
with it and then send it to you to figure out.
Figure out what happens when you cut a rat's dick off. Yeah, perfect,

(40:36):
let's figure that out.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
That's funny, man. Yeah, I hope. I hope America gets
it together. I really do.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
But I well, I mean, we're to a point where
we don't have a choice. And even though it gets uh,
it gets sugarcoated, especially a lot of these college kids
bitching about the student loans. You know, what's gonna happen
to the dollar if we hit a fifty trillion dollar deficit.
It's a lot worse than your stupid student loans for
getting a gender studies degree.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, but let's uh, I mean, I hope it happens.
But yeah, it's I've thought along and hard about it,
and I'm like, Okay, it's gonna have to be some
type of revolution because those in power, they're not going
to change it. There's just no incentive to change.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
You know, no, And I don't want to obviously, don't
want to see that either. But like you said, even
even with January sixth, and there's a lot of shit
that was going behind it to rile them up, a
lot of a lot of FBI tactics and whatnot, and
piles of bricks that happen to be laying around and
pipe bombs that are being set up by whatever. And
then you have like Minneapolis getting destroyed by paid activists
communists Antifa, even though that's not there's not real Americans.

(41:36):
Those are people getting paid by communists to destroy some event.
I mean, we're seeing violence. We're seeing it now, and
I don't want it that way, but this is unfortunately
how violence starts. And it's just I mean, open borders,
and you know, it's just frustrating some of the jokes
I have though some of my liberal friends in the
city when they say, well, what you know, because I

(41:56):
always say, it's like, yeah, well, you can't even tell
time on o'clock. I guarantee you can't start a fire
if something happens that the EMP hits and we have
nothing that they said, I had a liberal frank, but
what are you gonna do? I said, well, I'm gonna
eat you first. Like I could lift of you.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I have guns, you don't. I don't know how hard
that is.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Understand, Yeah, exactly. Well, I want to get your opinion
on the Ukraine War, like I have my own opinions,
But what do you think the conclusion is there with Trump,
Putin and Zelenski.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Well, yeah, Ukraine has been I was. I went to
Ukraine the first time in nineteen ninety eight and I
got to work with They were actually former Russian spetsnot skies,
Ukrainian now and actually that's the first time I heard
about Afghanistan. They were telling me about cutting throats with
this knife and I'm I remember looking at them as
a young seal first PLATWO and I'm like, damn, man,
I'm glad I'm never going to see Afghanistan. That place

(42:50):
sounds horrible, But I was working with a very very
corrupt government, which I'm here to tell you, if you
are working with the corrupt government, it is fucking awesome.
It is awesome being able to go anywhere, do anything,
get everything for free. I was single at the time,
needless to say. It was fun. But it's corrupt and
it's mony money laundering and whatnot. Too and then but

(43:11):
if you read a little history, the agreement originally in
the early nineties was as long as NATO doesn't keep
pushing East, we won't have a problem. And we just
kept pushing East. And you know, I remember I was
in a Lithuania in two thousand, two thousand and one,
and they wanted to be a NATO country, sort of
Latvia and Estonia. And then we're just pushing towards Russia.
So something's gonna happen. We saw it in Georgia, we

(43:33):
saw in Ukraine. Long story short, the United States politicians
have been laundering so much money in Ukraine that they
don't want to get busted. They certainly don't want to
turn off the money money spigot. So that's why they're
fighting so hard. That's why Democrats are waving Ukrainian flags
on the floor of the House, which is insulting as
shit for anyone who's ever fought for this country. They're
fighting for it because they don't want to they don't

(43:54):
want to get busted. They wanted to keep the money coming.
The shame of it is a lot of innus, A
lot of innocent people are dying for obviously war.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Like world War two. Yeah, statistics on the couch.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
They got they're doing World War one trench warfare, except
now they get they're peppered with suicide drones. I'm so
happy I don't have to do that. Imagine that ship.
So they're dying. There's people getting pulled off the street
into vans, like a fucking scene from old school. Now
you're going to the trenches. Uh. And and I hate
to tell you this. Ukraine is not going to win this.
They can't. They're going to have to because Eastern Ukraine

(44:28):
is you got your native Russian speakers there. Uh. I
don't want to say what's right and wrong, but if
you lose a war, which Ukraine is losing, even though
we're backing basically NATO's fighting, Uh, you don't get everything
you want in negotiation. And unfortunately Zelensky is not a
serious person. So Trump and Putin are negotiating. We've agreed
on Iran. China's very interested. There's gonna have to be.

(44:51):
They're looking for a ceasefire. What they need is a
permanent piece. I think it's doable. I mean, Vladimir Putin's
by no means a good person, who's a complete fucking
psychic path. I'm not defending him, but he's been doing
it for a long time. Former KGB, you got to
put up with a little bit of the buttering up.
There will be a difficult conversation. He does know that.
Donald Trump serious. I think it's I think it's winding down.

(45:15):
I hope. I mean, the last thing we want is
anyone from any country launching a nuke, because I don't
think people realize when nuke gets launches, the reaction will
be a nuclear arm again. And if you don't, if
you don't know what nuclear winter is, don't even bother
looking it up because you'll just depress yourself. You're not
going to survive if we get there, unless you come
to my house when we eat my neighbors.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, no, I think, yeah, I think it ends this year.
I think they're going to have to give up that
Eastern territory.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
They have to. They're going to and uh and.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Look, and I think to your point on the NATO encroachment,
like there were there were agreements made in lines in
the Sandron and the US just kept in the EU
just kept pushing, pushing, pushing, And I do see the
like Putin's perspective, and I get what he went and
the timing and why he went in because he knew
Biden was going to be a weak president and there

(46:06):
was going to be nothing done about it. And I
do think he underestimated how hard it was going to be.
And then they had the defense tech issues, like the
Russian defense tech is terrible. Yeah, their new radios relied
on cell towers, and they forgot that when they went
in and destroyed all the cell tower.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, that's that's something you That's that's a poor logistical
planning right there. You might want to double check a
math on that one. Yeah. I mean, I hope it
winds down to it again. I mean both sides. I
actually feel bad for the North Korean soldiers that are
getting smoked over there too, because those those brainwash fools
don't even know where they're going. They didn't know they
were in Ukraine. They didn't know what it is, and

(46:44):
you can just tell they don't know. They don't have
a clue what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
They the ones that were captured, they actually said they
were getting sent to fight to South Korean.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah, well, I mean they these are people that that
think Kim John unplayed one round of golf. He shot
eighteen holes in one and he has no butt because
he doesn't need a poop because he works so hard
he use up all his energy. Like they don't know anything.
They there are no there are no wild animals, birds
or leaves in North Korea because there's no food. People
eat them like these and and it's still you'll see

(47:16):
notes from these guys that died fighting saying what an
honor was to die for? For Kim Jong on, it's
like this, this is what extreme communism, actual fascism until
talitarism looks like it's not. It's not someone driving a
Tesla truck. You have it a lot better than you think.
But again it's proof to Kim Jong Ladimir Putin don't
give a shit about human life. They want the power.

(47:37):
Donald Trump's different. He cares about people. He wants to
end it. Then he got the left. They want endless
wars like down is up ups down right now?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, no, it's crazy. It really is crazy. Like they
can't put the ideology aside, just do it's right. And
that's one thing I actually really agree on Trump as
this foreign policy. It's like he's like, guys, like we've
been doing making a big mess for many years. Time
to stop and clean up her own backyard.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Well, and you would think that, I mean, isn't it
crazy that we're a spot where you would think everybody,
and I mean everybody would want no war. I thought
that would be a common thing. How about no more war? Boy?
Some of these people just love war. You got the
nine the U Jan sixth Commission, you got a couple
of Republicans over their warhawks. Baby love, love the war,
love the money. The Cheney family got really rich, like

(48:26):
I mentioned earlier, a lot of money, and they just
don't want to shut it off. And it's it's just
crazy what we could do with the Like we don't
even need an income tax, like the tariffs work. It
takes a minute, which unfortunately with this generation they want
instant gratification. You don't want to It's like they don't
want the cold plunge where this is gonna suck for

(48:47):
fifteen minutes, but man, in twenty minutes, I'm gonna feel amazing.
It's like I want it now, and that's it's unfortunate,
that's what it is. You gotta be realistic, You got
to be smart about being stupid. Maybe that's why I'm
so happy. I'm just dumb.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I am happy with Pete Seth's what he's doing. I
am to apply in some freaking common sense. I actually
I didn't realize follow me on Instagram and I sent
him a note. I was like, hey, man, keep up
with the good work. Five minutes He's like, thanks, Man.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, he's busy, he's been. Well that's good too, because
I've been I've been advocating for years like that status
quo is a retired for star general or a uh
a DC swamp rat that's gonna do the same thing
they've always done. You need a mid level officer who's
had combat experience, and Pete's got that. He knows the men.
But also he uh like, he played basketball at Princeton

(49:36):
and he was known for being the hardest worker out there, staying,
you know, getting it early, staying because he wants to
be on the court, knows the team, He talks to
the guys on the ground. He's set def that does
pt with the guys. And then he'll pull aside the
E for Mafia like this is the guy we need.
This is goin to trim the fat. And I have
been in love with that major. Hegseth now outranks every
general in the military.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, especially like renaming those bases too, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Name them back to I love what he did with
Fort Bragg too, he named it after a different brag.
That's a good move. That's its quality shit right there.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, good stuff. Any thoughts on h on China, Like
what's happening in China?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yeah, China has been fighting the war send I mean
since even before the the Opium Wars, when when the
UK started pumping opium to get everyone addicted so they
could do whatever, and then China was pissed. They started
redoing it to our troops and Vietnam and stuff like that.
And there there again too. It's the whole The United
States has the clocks, but we have the time. They're
fighting for the for the future. But the stuff they

(50:42):
were pulling before too, like that. I mean, why do
you think no congressmen or senators from California ever mentioned China. Well,
they bought and paid for the honeypot of the ship
out them. Look at Eric Swalwell, Like look at the
spy that was driving for was it Barbara Boxer for
twenty years? Look at there's Chinese spies everywhere. China knows
how to they know how to get They get FCN

(51:02):
Island type propaganda and not propaganda necessarily, but blackmail, and
they're really good at that. They're really good at buying
land here near military basis, putting in sleeper sales here.
Then the Panama Canal, which they basically had until I mean,
we sort of have it now, but I mean, yeah,
it's owned by an American company, but that company is
called black Rock, so whatever that is worth. But yeah,

(51:24):
I mean they want Taiwan because of the microchip thing
and that rare earth technology. Same with Ukraine, because they're
smart enough to realize the wars are going to change
and it's not necessarily gonna be army after army, it's
going to be the artificial intelligence, the straight terminator shit,
and that's where the chips come in. So they need Taiwan.
We need to be smart enough to realize the logistical
issue of having another fight in the Pacific because you

(51:45):
got to get our shit obviously from the United States
Hawaii over to Guam, stuff like that, and then our
allies are no longer going to be NATO, it's more
Japan Australia stuff like that. Then NATO might get pulled in.
But like even with the the way like we should
be out of NATO now's there's no reason for us
to be there. But the way a lot of these
European countries are thinking is uh, like with the EU. Okay,
so the EU means your government needs a government, like

(52:07):
what the ship is wrong with you people? You got
to thin that ship down. And then the UN, I
mean they have some of the You've seen it a
bunch of times, they have some of the best property,
uh in New York. Why do they have that? Get
them out? Kick them the fun out.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
No, the UN is totally dysfunction all.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
But I think China is uh. China is a bigger
navy than us. They are a bigger military. Here's my
crazy theory though, because we always say that we you know,
we'd be out of missiles in a week and a
half and we've lost every war game against China. I
don't think that's true. I think we say that. I
think that's the whole uh bin Laden is in the
cave with the dialysis machine type shit. Yeah, until we

(52:41):
go prove it and fuck them up, like I think
we could take China. I don't want to, but I
think we could.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah, not to get a lot of numbers, but I
tell you what, man, they are really good at at
the long game and and the using you know, our
own freedoms against us to to your point on the
dock to the TikTok thing. I was on a production
call for a TV series and they were asking the
main protagonists of Iran and they're like asking me, hey,

(53:09):
well can we change the the protagonists? You know, we
just feel like Iran has been you know, done too
many times, Like okay, well let's just do China. And
they're like, oh, we can't do China. And after the call,
I talked to the producer who's made a lot of
big movies in Hollywood and he said, look, Brandon, China
has so much money in Hollywood. Everyone is afraid to

(53:32):
even whisper a bad thing about China because they're going
to get the funding pulled. And that's how that's how
much this is American Hollywood. How much influence China has.
Like they had everyone super scared because they're putting billions
of money into into them.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Remember when John Cena came out and he gave that
huge apology in Mandarin. I mean what I mean talk
about it. And I love John Cene. I think he's fantastic,
but come on, you pussy.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I know again in John cens defense, I probably wouldn't
say that to his face, but just I mean, even
with like the the the movie The Interview, which to
this day is one of the funniest Dan movies I've
ever seen. Kim Jong hun didn't like it because China
probably told him not to like it. Then Hollywood cave
like that movie was funny. It's the humor when you're
dealing with China because they're I mean, they're smart. Look

(54:25):
at fentanyl. That's not an accident that they open up
uh fat Like they're working in cahoots with different cartels
in different spots also in Canada, because they can push
fentanyl in there knowing that's that's war. That's an act
of war right there. Killing one hundred thousand Americans a
year didn't really mention as much as we I mean,
we say it. That's a lot of people, you know,
that's two football stadiums basically full of people that die

(54:46):
every year because of this drug they're skinning across. Because
we don't do.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Badness.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I mean it ruined cocaine for the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I was a quick sidebar. But I was down at
the Bioaccelerator Clinic and Columbia doing the stem cells and
one of the guys down there, Jowey, he was dating
this girl and he was telling we were talking about
immigration in the US and he's like, especially under how
crazy it was under Biden, like just you know, not
to put it all on him, but the fact that

(55:19):
this girl he was dating says, yeah, I'm going to
go to the US on vacation. He's like, what do
you mean, You're not even like you don't have a visa,
Like how he is it possible? She's like, Oh, I'm
going to take the train to the border of Arizona
and Arizona, Texas. But she was like, yeah, I'm going
to do this and then there's this group that will
take me over and the US will like give me

(55:40):
a hotel and cash. And he was like pulling up
on his phone and he was showing me. She documented
her trip on her Instagram and she's like, yeah, at
the hotel with like forty dollars cash at the government
gave her. They gave her a lawyer. This is like
a twenty something girl. It didn't just went there as
a as like a little yeah. I was like, I

(56:01):
was shocked.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
He was showing me this stuff on the phone, and
I'm like, that's insane. Like I had no idea that
that's that was the state status of our of our
border situation.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
That's insane, unbelievable. I never thought of that. That.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, just people they knew it. They knew how imagine
like if that's like something twenty something Wow, would just
come for to spend two weeks in America on the
US TAC bearer and then go back. Okay, yeah, I
saw it. Now I'm home page.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
You could tell people this and half the country would
would not care that their money is being wasted on
just a vacation. And and they always go back to
the whole refugee ship like, oh, they're leaving a war
torn you know, they're not. How many countries one hundred
and fifty different countries are not they're not all refugees.
What the why are you taking people in the canty

(56:55):
keep their own house in order? Why do we need them?
It's and then they spent it to uh oh, you
just hate migrants, Like no, I don't hate immigration. I
love him immigration. I hate twenty million people coming here illegally.
And then and even I saw an interview the Aurora,
Colorado stuff where the gang members are taking it over,
and I think Stephen Miller, No, it was a JD
Vance was on TV and he was giving an interview

(57:16):
talking about the apartment buildings. And she said, uh, I
forget which reporter, but she goes, uh, well, it's just
a handful of him, and he goes, listen to yourself,
it's only a handful of our apartment buildings taken over
by cartels in America. Like, listen to what you're saying.
There's just just a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Like no, that's like the press getting mad at Trump
for deep like deporting the hardcore gang members like good luck, yeah,
good luck trying to get public for.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
That, unelected judges turning him around troop movements, like to
the commander in chief is being shut down by a
judge in Washington, DC. It's like, who who's juris? It's madness.
And that again too is Senator Kennedy. He said, you
start trimming the fat, the pigs are gonna squeal.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, No, that's a good Uh, that's a good point.
And the thing that I mean, I'm really happy to
see what's going on now. The problem is like eventually
it's stuff's gonna get unwont like it's gonna unwind, and
and the fundamentally of the system is broken. Like we
need a we need a system that alects a lot
better more competent leaders. Yeah, I mean, the House, Senate,

(58:23):
the President.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
The only problem is they're the lawmakers, so they're not
going to change it. It's like saying, well, Congress, maybe
you shouldn't vote on a raise for yourself this year.
That's gonna happen. They're gonna get it, uh, and they're
never gonna vote against this is this is why I mean, seriously,
you need uh, you need someone like the uh like
Doge in there to get rid of some of the stuff.
And then and then what needs to happen is is
DC needs to get broken up, like the White House

(58:45):
should be there, the Capital should be there, the FBI
should not be there, get the CIA out of there,
get get all those and and then you know, then
trimming the fat with the Department of Education, the EPA,
the aht F, the I R S cut them and
and and like shut the people that you got to
avoid a government shutdown? Why shut them down? What what
is the government does nothing for you? Like look at

(59:06):
our infrastructure. Look at the difference between the trains in
Europe and the trains here. Our trains here suck because
none of them, none of your taxpayer. By the way,
we had better roads than trains before we started doing
income tax. We're not. I'm just spinning up here too.
No cut.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, And the hardest part I have going back to
the US now is the food. Like I can almost
taste the GMO. It's shocking food. I get bread delivered
my plate, fresh bread, but two days it's moldy. I'm like,
man in the US, this would be good for a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Now that's something too. I'm a one of my hobbies
is baking and cooking, and yeah, my bread is sale
or sorry, moldy in a couple two days, Like you said,
I have, Like I have potato slider rolls. I think
have been in my bread box for about ten months
and they're perfect.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
It's not anything at Costco last year, Like no set.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I'm coming over to Europe this this spring. I can't wait.
I'm gonna give a speech, and I think it's Switzerland.
I'm really excited to get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Backwitzerland's amazing, man, it's amazing. It's really really, really well run,
the way they divide up the little cantons to like
neighborhoods that governs themselves in their own tax money themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Did you get to any football matches while you're over there?
Into that? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
My youngest is, so we're gonna We're gonna go see
uh uh, what's the big team in Madrid. It's a real.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Madrid, real Madrid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, but I'm getting into I like watching the big,
the big matches like World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
And yeah, well that's coming here to the States too.
I'm excited for that. I think I never got to
see Michael Jordan play, which is a regret. I think
I got to see Ronaldo before he retires.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, well, if you make it to Lisbon, let me
know you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Are Yeah, most definitely can. We can definitely have fun
the ship. We can just go to a pub and
not even go to the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'll take you guys flying too, man, if you bring.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I totally do that. Yeah, it'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah, we gotta shoot under the shoot under the bridge.
All right, man, it's been a good conversation. I funk
I could go for another hour, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
This is awesome. We just have a conversation and that's good.
I'm gonna get in touch to I gotta get you
on the operator. We can just we can reattack this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, yeah, I would love to and we'll make sure
we'll get the operator Canna and the show link and yeah,
good luck to everything you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
And awesome, awesome, thank you very much. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
We ust to luck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Man. She has your two brothers, Tukson, great senior.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
All right, Sarah, you've been listening to most read Lasia