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November 23, 2020 20 mins

A recovered email chain puts Flaherty and Watkins on the trail of a new suspect, while Watkins presses Flaherty to bring Tom in for a formal interview. 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Solve Presents The Happy Girl Part two. Hello, come on in.
This is it last session? It is indeed last mandatory session.
I'm on the record is saying that I think your
therapy should continue. So how's the case going. It's taking

(00:33):
some turns, that's for sure. What I'm trying to figure
out now is what's that on your shirt where you're
right sleeve? Oh? Nothing, it looked like blood. Yeah, I
nicked myself shaving earlier. Your knuckles are bloody as well.

(00:54):
It's it's not that big a deal you hit someone.
It's not what you think. Seriously, we don't have to
get into this. This is exactly the kind of thing
we have to get into. Now, tell me what happened,
all right? I guess it all started four days ago.

(01:21):
So Kira was suicidal and hired someone to kill her.
That's a new one. Maybe she was afraid she wouldn't
go through it herself. More importantly, who replied to the ad?
These Craigslist email chains are anonymous? He didn't give her
any contact infoe Maybe he did, but she deleted it.
I mean, we only have this much because she left
it in her drafts folder. We can subpoena Craigslist for

(01:42):
the full thread and the email addressed on the other
side of this good until then her phone and he
calls her text from someone we don't know. It started
about two months ago. Let's see. Uh, she does have
some phone calls with someone named Garrett. Looks like the
first call was on January twenty, same day as those
emails ship that we were supposed to go in from

(02:11):
the Lust side, the Lust come on, kick It, kick
it booted ship with come on hey girl during the game.
Oh sorry to sneak up on you down here, your
mom let us in. Who are you guys? Homicide detectives.

(02:34):
We're investigating the death of Kara Matthews. Who's that? You
know who she is, don't you? Their numbers all over
her phone? Oh um Kira, Yeah, yeah, see I do
internet tech support for prison. Kira had so many problems
with her connection that I just I ended up giving
her my direct line. Oh my god, she's dead. She

(02:58):
had received calls from you too. Is that typical calling customers?
Sometimes we get disconnected. The signal was really crappy down here,
so I'll have to call them back. So, just to
be clear, you didn't know her personally, no, no, no,
I didn't didn't know her at all. Okay, well, thanks

(03:22):
for clearing that up, Garrett, and we are very sorry
to interrupt your game. So he's lying, Oh yeah, Craig,
lest should get back to us soon to confirmed. Garrett's

(03:44):
on the other end of those emails. And in the meanwhile,
location dot on her phone not just towers, find out
if her phone joined any WiFi networks the night she
was killed. Way more accurate on it. And okay, and well,
in the interest of productive use of time, I was thinking,
we asked Tom to come in our new prime. Suspect

(04:08):
is down in that basement. I can feel it in
my bones. I share that feeling. I do, but I
don't want to solve this case based on feelings. Look,
I know you said he's not a suspect, so let's
just clear him and be done with it. Maybe he
can at least shed some light on any mental health
issues here might have had. I just had a scene

(04:33):
over there, Tom, So, is is there any news? Well,
we found something and we should warn you. It's uh,
it's disturbing. What is it? Before Kira died, she placed
a personal ad online she wanted to hire someone to
kill her. Why the hell would she do that? Seems

(04:55):
to be in a assisted suicide situation. Okay, did Kira
have a history of depression? I don't think so. But
you didn't really talk about that kind of stuff. It
wasn't really our relationship. Yeah, m hmm, Tom, where were

(05:20):
you on the night of Are you fucking serious? We
ask everybody this, You really think I could kill my
own daughter? I've got to cover all my bases, that's all.
I was at home the whole night, yes, so nobody
else can corroborate this. I was by myself the whole time.
I'm sorry to interrupt detectives, he said to let you

(05:41):
know as soon as it came in, Can you excuse
us time? Thanks? Thanks that the email address of who
replied to Kira's ad? Yep, Well this is why you
always go with your gut. Watkins start talking. Okay, I

(06:14):
replied to the ad, but I was never going to
go through with it. You reply to an ad where
someone says they'll give you a thousand dollars to kill them,
and your plan was what I wanted to help her,
and I did. I talked her out of it. How
did you manage that? We started talking and we had
a lot in common. We became friends. What kind of

(06:34):
stuff does an eighteen year old girl have in common
with a man in his thirties. We we were both gamers,
both really in a true crime. True crime like podcasts,
podcast documentaries, you name it. Kiro was obsessed with that stuff.
That that's why, why what, Garrett? That's why she wanted

(06:59):
to stage her own death. You guys know all those
shows about girls who are mysteriously murdered. Well, that's what
Kira wanted. It a Netflix special all about her. Why
would she want that? When I first started talking to Kira,
she was really sad, you know, really low self worth.
I guess she just wanted to be to be remembered.

(07:24):
So you respond to the ad and instead of going
through with it, you swoop in like a white Knight
and save her. Is that your story? I know it
sounds crazy, but it's the truth. No, no, no, no no.
It sounds like you really cared for her, maybe even
more than her boyfriend did. Look, I know what you're
getting at, and I already have a girlfriend. Let's just
got the bullshit, huh, page you a thousand dollars gave

(07:44):
you her boyfriend's gun and you shot her in the
back of the head. And can you excuse us, Garrett?
If you're gonna cut me off every time I get

(08:04):
hot in there, I've got news for you. We won't
get a confession. He wasn't going to confess. Look, let's
keep this simple. If you think he's our guy, charge him.
If not, you've got to cut him loose. Like Jason,
what do you think I I think I'd like to
poke holes in a story. First, d A might want
to put him at the crime scene. Well, what did

(08:25):
Garrett's mother say? She says she heard him playing video
games all night. She hasn't saw him yet, so she's
sure of it. He could have just left her game on,
slipped out of the house. The money one dollars, that's
what we need. Until then, we'll tell him not to
leave town. We'll pick him back up when we have
more facts. It was hell, no, okay, let him go.

(08:59):
But if I'm right, we'll be dragging him out of
his mom's basement in a couple of days. Hey, you know,
we never got to finish that interview with Tom again
with this, when we have our prime suspect in our sights,
tying off all our loose ends will make the case

(09:20):
against scared even stronger. Tom volunteered that he was a
ship dad, and he showed remorse for it. I heard
nothing suspicious. You also said he's an alcoholic. Your point,
alcoholics are liars. You know. I don't want to go
digging into your personal history here, but if I had
to guess, I'd say you're doing some projecting, and I'd
say you have a blind spot for your friend detectives.

(09:43):
We have a problem out front. Hey, break that, Jason,
Get off him? Oh what did I do to you?
What do you do? Would you do? You killed tiof?

(10:05):
Take enough? How do you know he was here? My
buddy Pete lives across the street from him. He says
he saw you guys hauling this tub of ship out
of his house. He killed her, right, No, I didn't
you know. I knew she was cheating on me. I
just didn't think it was with some loser like this.
Take a walk, Jason, now, Garrett, get inside. We'll have

(10:25):
someone drive you home. The location data from cures cell
phone just came in. You're right. Her phone did join
a WiFi network that night. Well, which one of those
two do I have to grab neither? Who's that with

(10:54):
a hard eye emojis on your caller? I d Abby boyfriend? Sorry?
Um enough, I want to Detective Flaherty is very nosy.
I'm not nosy. I'm curious. I like to know things.
How to play tectonics work? Why is the sky blue?
And why did you lie to us about seeing Kia
the night she was murdered? I am I didn't want

(11:18):
to get in trouble. And why would you get in
trouble because I I was the one who gave her
the drugs that night? Okay, Mabby, tell us what really
happened that night. Let's start with where you got the drugs?
Just some dealer. I don't know his name? Was it Garrett?

(11:40):
I don't know. You don't know, or you don't know
who that is? Both? I guess. So Kira comes over,
you do some molly, then what h We're supposed to
go to a party, but I caught a bad buzz
and wanted to stay in, so she left on her own.
I don't know where she went. The other day, you

(12:00):
said you wouldn't describe Kira as a happy girl. What
did you mean by that? It just meant Kira had
a dark side. We heard she was a true crime addict. Yeah,
we both were. We used to joke we can't remember
the name of someone we just met, but can run
off all of Casey's victims. I never got that. What

(12:22):
is it with young girls being so into murder these days?
I I don't know, um, just something fascinating about these stories.
We were even going to start a podcast. We're going
to be just like Sara Kanick and Julie Snyder and
Cereal and all of this talk about death. Did Kira
ever talk about her own? You're asking if she was suicidal?

(12:45):
I don't know, but she could get sad sometimes. Look
her whole life. People have been screwing her over. Hm.
Hey Watkins, why don't you go grab the pronounce of
that ad? Kira posted, Uh, sure you're back. You know Abby.

(13:09):
I'm getting really sick and tired of people lying to me.
I'm not lying. That's what you said last time. So
what aren't you telling us this time? Nothing? I'm see see.
That's what I hate. I tell someone not to lie
and they keep doing it anyway. Now, what I want
to know is why, why who are you protecting? Is
it Garrett, I told you I don't know who that is?

(13:31):
Someone else, yourself? Maybe what I didn't kill? Your best
friend is dead and you're only telling us facts that
are convenient for you. How do I know that you
didn't kill her? I didn't had What is going on? Here?
Go on? Get out of here. M h Can I

(14:03):
get for you? Scotch? Hey? Tom, I thought i'd find
you here. Yeah, well old comforts? Can you heard? It
has judgment? No? No, I'd say now is the time
for old comforts. You can get on the wagon later

(14:27):
here to Cia. Are you gonna find my daughter's killer
or not? Mike, No, we're trying. We've had some leads.
They just they keep turning up to be dead ends.
She was suicidal. I'm a little girl. Yeah, because of me. Well,

(14:52):
we don't know. We don't have the full picture yet.
If I wasn't there for her, then I'm going to
be there for her now. I'll find the sun of
a bitch. Who did this? Come on myself? Hey, watch
your man? You sprayed it all over me. You watch
an asshole? What did you say to me? Hey? We're
fine here. Sorry with my friend, he's a little spilly,
just he's going through a lot. Yeah, so give me

(15:14):
some space. Well, hey, well what's going on here? These
two little bitches were bitches. You're the one complaining that
you've got a little bit of beer spill on your
dress there, Nancy, Why don't you say that again and
see what happens to you? Hey, be careful. This guy's
a cop, is that right? Come on, don't listen to him.

(15:35):
He's drunk, all right? Hey, I really liked that bar.

(16:07):
Why do you have to go and gosh it? Mikey wow?
I was trying to stick up for you, idiot, right, Yeah, thanks, Mike,
you're a good friend. I crashed at Thomson came right here,
so I I didn't have a chance to change my shirt.

(16:30):
And were you just sticking up for your friend or
did you feel like you wanted to punch someone? Maybe
a bit of both. I did feel like a release.
How do you think the police board will feel about it?
You're not going to report this. I have to report this.
You're in court mandated anger management therapy because you beat

(16:50):
up the prime suspect in your last murder trial. He'd
already confess I didn't stop the defense from getting him off,
did it? Behavior like this is ex actly when I'm
supposed to flag. But it didn't have anything to do
with the case. Not this time, Suzanne. Listen to me.
I need to be the one who catches Karen's killer. Please,

(17:12):
I have to finish this technically. I have twenty four
hours to report this. Thank you. Two hours. That's it,
and I want you back in here next week. You
got it? Thanks again? Hey, rough night, I didn't sleep much.

(17:38):
It gets that way sometimes in a case. Larity, Superintendent,
the good One girl is here at the front desk,
said she left her phone in the interrogation room. Oh
uh right, yeah, thanks, I'll go get it. I'll come with.
I should apologize for chasing her out like that. Okay, okay, yeah,

(18:02):
phone's still here. It's Mr hart I emoji. Maybe I
should pick up. See what he knows? Flat, don't. Finally
you pick up? I must have called you after times.
Who is this? What's this? Tom? Detective Michael Flaherty was

(18:49):
played by Michael Trayner. Detective Lisa Watkins by the law batter,
Tom Matthews by Jason huber Kia Matthews by Gina Vittori.
Abby Goodwin by Lexi di Benedetto Gart Craig by Scott Cooper,
Ryan Jason Kemp by Eric Lopez, Suzanne by Aaron Coker,

(19:11):
Superintendent Brian Locke by Darren Cooper. This episode of Solve
was written and directed by Corey Serge. Executive produced by
Corey Serge, Executive produced by Walt Palmer and Sterling Barnett.
Casting by Daisy Laura. Audio production and post production by
Salt Audio production manager Liz LeMay, Recording engineer Zack Jurich,

(19:36):
Hope Brush, and John Schmidt. Original music and score by
Nathan Turchon, Edited and mixed by Zack Jurich. Assistant editor
shy han Zu. Sound designed by Eric Rachelson. Script supervisor
Marilyn Miller
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