December 18, 2024 • 62 mins
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Join Amanda Rieger Green on Soul Sessions as she welcomes back astrologer Hannah Francey to discuss the significant astrological and numerological shifts coming in 2025.
This episode delves into key topics such as the nodal axis shift to Pisces and Virgo, the impact of Neptune entering Aries, and the broader energetic and spiritual changes anticipated.
With insights on planetary movements and their influence on personal and collective transformation, Amanda and Hannah offer guidance on how to navigate these shifts with grace and empowerment.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hi, everyone, It's Amanda Riguer Green. Welcome to Soul Sessions today.
I've got a special returning guest, Hannah Francie, and she
is an astrologer who I have followed for years. What
I love about Hannah is she knows her stuff. She
knows her stuff, she speaks it from her soul, but
(00:29):
she is so accessible and relatable when it comes to
thinking about and incorporating astrology into our lives and then
looking at our natal charts, so we can really create
a simple and accessible road map to navigate all the shifts,
twists and turns that we encounter in our day to
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day and do it with greater grace and ease. Welcome back, Hannah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hi amana, thank you so much for having me back.
I'm so excited to talk about twenty twenty five with.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You, me too. Twenty twenty five is a big year numerologically, astrologically, energetically.
We've I mean, we've been in a big year in
twenty twenty four, but I feel like twenty twenty five
breaks the mold a bit. What do you think about
twenty twenty five and some of the astrology and energy.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
One hundred percent? Yeah, And I was actually listening to
your most recent podcast episode, you know, and you were
talking about with twenty twenty five being representing the number
nine in numerology, and I thought that just the connections
there when numerology and astrology meet, it's a lot of
clearing space. We have those outer planets, you know, Uranus
(01:48):
and Nepting entering different signs, and Pluto of course has
just moved. And then by twenty twenty six with that
number one year, then it's like a whole new era.
So twenty twenty five is really, I think, a great
year to prepare clear spaus go within. I'm excited for.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It, me too, Me too, And I love that you
recognize the numerology and the code, the dialogue that the
astrology and numerology creates it. To me, it feels so
divinely orchestrated. It's like the universe is rooting for us,
even though it's like, Okay, there's change coming, There're gonna
(02:32):
be big shifts, and what you just said about going
within where our sovereignty is, our empowerment is, and twenty
twenty four has done a number on many of us.
I know for me on really recognizing my power. But
from this higher place, which I'm a pretty spiritual person
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and in tune with those things. I know you are
as well. But I've seen a lot of shifts and
changes with people really recognizing their agency, their authority, and
twenty twenty four just a little bit of recap and
reminder for everybody with the energy of the eight. In numerology,
we learn through polarity, and that's one of the first
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things Hannah and I are going to jump into is
polarity of the nodal axis shift. It's one of the
first big things that happens. But learning through polarity. So
for me, when I feel disempowered or disengaged or disillusioned, exhausted,
run down, it's recognizing it, honoring it, and processing it,
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but also knowing that my body, my soul is asking
me to draw in that polarity of empowerment, engagement, creativity, spontaneity, whatever,
the polarity, vitality, really finding new ways of simplifying to
create greater vitality, more quality. So let's die in and
(04:01):
let's talk about the nodal axis shift. The nodal axis
for all of you out there, this is the north
and the south node of the moon. And the North
and South node. The North node has been in Aries
and the South node has been in its polarity of Libra.
So we've had tons of lessons around individuality and how
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we relate to people. And the pull is the North
node where we're going as a collective, and it's been
more around our individuality, our mighty I am. I have
a good friend Hannah, and she always says she's a
Libra like me, but her motto is stand up for
yourself and not against the other person. And to me,
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that feels very much like North node in Aris, South
Node and Libra really gaining our voices yet incorporating the
other in respectful diplomatic ways, but not compromising as much
or being nice for the sake of the peace, or
being nice and pushing down our own needs, truth beliefs,
(05:12):
whatever that may be. So let's talk about the nodal
shift into the North node transitting into Pisces and the
South node transitting into Virgo. It's polarity, and this happens
in January.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, so it begins from the eleventh of January for
another so for eighteen months basically, and I slightly want
to back try to track a little bit with that,
because firstly, I picked up on that word that you
said beginning of by the road math, and I feel
as if as we comes to the end of twenty
twenty four we enter twenty twenty five, Marcury being in
(05:51):
such terrists the retrograd is an opportunity for us to
review that Vira rgue math. So look back and see right,
where are we coming from? From that understanding. From that recognition,
we can have a for our idea of where we
want to go. So that's been really useful for us.
And then Mars retrograde as well, you know, coming into
the new year. The really fascinating thing about Mars retrograde,
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I think is when it turns direct, it will be
piscey season and then the north no will be in Pisces.
So what we see here is an opportunity for us
to kind of dive in. This is why I feel
emotional regulation and you know, really thinking about how we
can nurture ourselves, support ourselves unequally to you know, we
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think about family and home with cancer. Of course, it
will be important though for us to slow on and
to really consider, you know, our choices, our options, things
like that. Especially given with Mercury and Jupiter at the
moment with their retrograde motions. I hope I'm not going
too off track here, but just interestingly Jupiter's retrograde and
(06:56):
Gemini Mercury retrograde and Sanitarius again a lot of choices,
so very good for us to review. So therefore, with
the nodes, back to the nodes. The fascinating thing I
think about the north node in Pisces is that we
have an opportunity to really go within, to dive deeper
into our unconscious, to go through these renewals and to reset.
(07:19):
It's like a resetting period, especially when we align that
a bit with that that nine number that of course
you brought off as well. So that's really fascinating. But
at the same time, with this life note being in Virgo,
a lot of this is about our body, you know,
It's about those healthy decisions and choices we make. There's
(07:40):
one part of it where the north node in Pisce
says spiritual awareness. I think about even our connection with difinity,
you know, spirituality. A lot of people are really starting
to question these things. But then with Virgo, it's more
about okay, well, how to actually feel within my body
and which choices are I making so that I can
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love a healthy, healthier sort of lifestyle. So it's trying
to in a way combine the two naturally. With this
life note in Virgo, there can be that tendency off
fixing compulsively to jump in and fix.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's a really good way to fit to put it,
fixing compulsively. And you and I chatted a little bit
before we started recording, and I reflecting on the Virgo
that's in my chart, and that is one of those
things where I'm like, oh, we get to look forward
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to healing this rather than oh, gosh, it's gonna flare up,
because it will flare up. So it's it's in front
of us, almost exacerbated. But fixing compulsively. What a beautiful
way to articulate that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think it can be where you know we fuss,
where when do we fuss? When do we worry unnecessarily?
And when can we be a bit pedantic? I think
Argo at times can get caught up in details that
really with Northwold and Pisces, the north wind and Pisce says,
does it really modern the ground scheme of things? You
may think it does, but maybe it doesn't. Right now,
(09:15):
let's try and expand it a bit, and let's try
and not control or fix in that way and maybe
step back a little bit and to hey, you know what,
go with the flow with PC's flow a little bit
with versus virgo.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Which it's so interesting for that energy and that that
energetic signature to really motivate us to go with the flow.
And that's a statement that we all say. Yet it's
one of those things for me. I know when I'm
in the flow because things are easy, things are fluid,
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even challenging or dysfunctional circumstances, relationships, work, family, whatever may
be coming up, if I am centered internally and trusting
and what you just said about is it really that
important in the grand scheme of things, that's beautifully said
(10:16):
to remember to zoom out. I get a lot of
us get so focused on the minutia and the details
that we make it our world, and then it writes
a program that exacerbates it. Being able to step back.
And you know what that makes me think about, Hannah,
is remembering back to the pandemic and how we were
(10:37):
forced to reprioritize, reorganize our lives and it was from
drastic change and all sorts of collective trauma, I mean,
a world shift, but so many people enjoyed being at
home enjoy I mean there were times obviously the converse
of that where we went a little mad, a little nutso,
(10:59):
but we we reorganized and reprioritize things, and I know
so many people came out of that more clear and
true around what they enjoy and having space and balance.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. I love that because it makes me think about
with Jupiter and Saturn. So they will still square one
another coming into twenty twenty five as well, and it's
that opening square between Jupiter and Saturn, and that great
conjunction happened in twenty twenty, you know, when when the
pandemic hit. So the way I sort of feel it
(11:35):
is Saturn and Pisces is pointing toward how we can
strengthen our spiritual gifts and even just focusing on our
emotional wellbeing. So in a way, Saturn's already been ushering
in these themes and putting in the work making time
for ourselves in this regard, and then the North node
is basically just going to come along and you know,
(11:57):
support that in a way. But also just usher in more,
you know, more themes to do with those spiritual elements.
And then Jupiter being in Gemini. With that square, you know,
we've also seen the I would say, the scatteredness, the
jittery behaviors, nervousness, fantasies, building castles in the sky a
(12:17):
little bit. And so I think with the square, things
are going to become a lot more clearer. I think
it's just important for people to slow down and to
really ask themselves, right, what are my intentions and what
do I want, you know, going into this next new era,
because the new era is going to be as you
were talking about the beginning. It's it's very different. You know,
(12:39):
we have Uranus being in an Earth sign, Pluto being
in an Earth sign, and what we notice with Urinus
and Pluto, you know, or things to do with people
and positions apart, money grade, things like that. So those
planets are going to take on a whole new element,
a whole new form with Pluto Aquarius this air sign,
(13:02):
Uranus and Gemini another air sign. It's about the people,
I think, you know, really this is about unawakening. I
see personally the twenty five and beyond as the great
awakening because people are they're tuned in, they're questioning. Even
with you know those things you mentioned about the pandemic, Well,
(13:23):
there's a lot of misinformation and things like that, and
we've seen this intensify over the years. But we've also
seen equally people going hold.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
On, why yeah, that curiosity, especially having Jupiter in Gemini
and then once we have Urinus starting to touch Gemini
and come in and move from Taurus. I love Taurus,
and I love the steadiness of Taurus, but Gemini changes
the mind, changes the game. And of course one of
(13:55):
the beautiful cornerstones of Gemini is curiosity. So people asking questions, Hmmm,
do I believe that? Hmmm, is that really true? Or
is that true for me? And I've seen that in
so many people, and it can be frightening in the
sense that long held belief systems or values or things
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that we've been taught or shown or modeled in our society,
in our family of origin, our environments, people are gaining
this greater curiosity and willingness to explore things, maybe not
quite sure yet what they trust, know or believe, but
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knowing that something is changing, and that uncertainty also creates
a little bit of unrest internally externally because things are changing, friendships, relationships, jobs, whatever,
and then the bigger picture, so, like you said, finding
that slowing down a bit, find our center, our stillness
(15:01):
within the prayer, the meditation, getting out in nature, the
things that we can do, shoot getting a manicure. My
big thing is do your spirituality simply. And I remember
years ago I look back to getting like a manicure
pedicure and being on my phone and answering questions or
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doing twenty five things rather than just sitting in the
massage chair for thirty five minutes and relaxing. And I
started to do that years ago, and to just enjoy
thirty forty minutes of time. And then that was that
snowballed into other ways. I could become more present, more
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aware and still and use the gift of the present moment.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I love that. I feel like what you just explained
is so of ourpupset that I've ault thought like chickpitter
score Soder. That's beautiful, Yeah, because I mean you're so right.
We do live in this very frantic just no ein
EI society and everything so instant, and I was thinking
about with even Neptune entering Aras in twenty twenty five,
(16:15):
and of course Saturn following shortly after. And I was
thinking of Neptune as addiction. So I think a big
part even of Saturn joining up, will be about delayed gratification.
Maybe what we could say is some kind of new
beginning to do with this addictiveness that we have, especially
to social media, like as you were saying, you know,
(16:38):
we were getting your manicure, but yet you know, you're
thinking about your phone and other you know, other things,
and it just shows that we can really be like
that as a society. And I know myself, I can
be like that. And it's that even with Gemini that
you know that part of it there's multiples, multiples, just
so many open tabs and things like that. But yeah,
(17:00):
I think with ARES, it's like the beginning of a
new a new cycle, because you know, ARIS is all
about new beginnings. And maybe we will say greater maybe
discipline on our parts, greater self control as well, especially
if it is that there are any you know, certain
addictive tenancies or certain habits that we want to shift
(17:22):
and hey, you know, we bring up back to the
nodes with the Sivee node and Virgo, Northoda and Pisces.
Maybe that by leaning a little bit into the Sivee
node and Virgo, we can draw from those gifts of like, Okay,
is this healthy for me? Is this good for me?
You know, kind of pull from different areas of the
of the placements of the stars, if you will.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's funny this morning, when I got up, I've been traveling,
so my schedule has been a little bit off, and
I love my routine, my schedule, but I can and
also be addicted. I noticed myself missing my morning routine.
And I love spontaneity, I love busting up routines, but
(18:11):
I was very aware in my travels the last few
weeks of how in my mind I was thinking I
should be doing this, I need to be doing this,
I need to be eating this. I'm not taking these supplements.
I mean, and that's part of the beauty of my
health and wellness. But I also noticed my addiction to
my routines and my health and wellness, and the fear
(18:32):
that was coming up, Oh, Amanda, You're not gonna have
these supplements or this routine. So isn't that ironic? I mean,
that was one of the key takeaways. And I kept
laughing at myself on my travels because I kept thinking, Amanda,
you have everything you need, you're find can't you just
ease into the moment? And so that's what I was
(18:53):
reflecting on this morning and kind of laughing, you know,
as I got up and I was doing my meditation
and journaling and being grateful to be home, but then
laughing at how I can be addicted to the healthy
things in an unhealthy way. Does that make sense? I
know it sounds a little nutso, but that's the awareness
(19:14):
that I feel like so many of us, what you're articulating,
are gonna come into awareness of our addictions and the subtle,
more subtle addictions if you don't have something going on
where it is drugs, alcohol, screen time, relationships, more subtle
addictions where we get obsessive, compulsive in our mind or
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attached to something and where we can maybe relinquish our
control or our grip on the steering wheel. That's always
the way I think of it, like holding ten and
two really tightly on the steering wheel, like it's pouring
down rain or snowing and you've got to keep control
or versus like relaxing on a sunny day and just
turning the music up and rolling the windows down.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yes, yes, trade because it is very Virgo that like
the compulsiveness, obsessed with compulsiveness. And we even think about
from what you're saying, it's all of the self help
books and information I there, so there can be that
addictiveness to self help. And then you think about Virgo
and can very much represent perfectionism, and it's like that
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within itself is like you think you're imperfect, so you
need to fix yourself, you need to be perfect. But
to say that is to suggest that you're not perfect.
But then it's a never ending live but you're just
going round and rhying. But Virgo, I think, is also
about that self containment. Virgo is it's also about being
able to say, do you know what? Actually I am not?
(20:42):
And so well I know for myself anyway, especially and
maybe selfishly speaking, my rising is in Virgo, and then
the seventh is in Pisces, so I can maybe get
a feel for how the nodes shifting will influence me.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That's a big tree. And for those of you out there,
we discussed this that don't you know, aren't is aware
of your natal chart. It's such a lovely time. Hannah
on her website, Hannah's Elsewhere, has wonderful resources to help
guide you through understanding your natal charts, so you can
see where the planets are moving. But what Hannah just
(21:20):
articulated for herself is this, with this access shift, her
north notice will be transiting through her first house and
the south node through her seventh house. So that gives
her some awareness that some of her identity and control
around her identity is going to be changing in some way,
and then relationships are going to be highlighted seventh house.
(21:43):
I love how you brought it back home, and for
all of you out there, I hope that you can
find where the nodal axis are in your chart, where
Virgo and Pisces are, especially the early the late degree.
Excuse me, because when the nodal access shift, and for
those of you out there who aren't as proficient yet
(22:04):
in some of your degrees, in the way astrology works,
the funny thing about the nodes is, and I'm I'm
gonna just say this simply, it's like they move backwards.
So as the node shifts from Aries the first sign
of the zodiac into Pisces, it's moving backwards, so it's
not moving into zero degrees of Pisces, it's moving into
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twenty nine point five to nine degrees of Pisces. So
it starts to move backward in that direction. And the
same with Virgo twenty nine degrees of Virgo and onward.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, what I'm also thinking here, a boy, it would
be so especially with the North node coming into pieces, right,
So what if the rulers would be Neptune, So Neptune
coming into aries. It's interesting because we have the eclipse
season happen at the same time, there's also marcur raptribude
in Pisces and Aries, Venus raptrobrad and Pisces and Aries.
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And to me, that retrocred season combined with the eclipse
season is sort of like a preparation. It's getting our
minds and our bodies ready for these nixt big shifts coming.
And so to bring it back again to Neptain being
the ruler of the North node, so Neptune coming into
two arias I see as so if we think about
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our connection with divinity, if we think about like pure consciousness,
what are the labels and the titles the stories that
we tell ourselves and how do we attach to those things,
because I think with neptin there is that sort of
dissolving quality and also hopefully being able to in combination
(23:42):
with Pluto Inaquarius to sue Mte, to look at thinks
more from a bird's eye view, to see that actually
we do have connection with the higher part, with divinity,
and it's just that our bandwidth is so so short
because of certain structures and we've been told and you know,
the narratives that we tell ourselves. So I really think
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that the combination is sort of like a big rebellion.
It's like a rebellion against anything that tries to tell
us who we are and how debate. Yeah, freedom, it's
this anthem of freedom because Ari's Aquarius. There's so much
about independence.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Says Hannah, the sun sign in Aquarius. She's like, this
is my language. And I shared with Hannah, and I've
said this on the podcast before. My South Note of
the Moon Natalie is in Aquarius, So of course I
relate to that and am excited for how people show
up and rebel, but rebel with compassion, and rebel with
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an open heart and a peaceful heart. All of this
Neptunian and Pissian energy. It's not about causing more chaos, violence,
war all the We could see those things play out
interestingly on the world stage. But how are we approaching
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our own rebellion more lovingly, inclusively, compassionately, and rebelliously in
unprecedented ways, in breaking the mold and not even breaking
a glass ceiling, breaking out into the cosmos. I know
I sound mystical and esoteric when I say that, but
it's almost like we don't know what we don't know.
(25:32):
And isn't that exciting versus terrifying?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah? Definitely, And I have some information that I wrote
on yes, And the reason why I'm bringing it up
is because of what you mentioned. You know, we could
see these potential violence acts as well with the alignments,
and so what I'm about to say really involves Urinus
(25:58):
in Gemini and Pluto in Aquarius. And perhaps I'll get
back to Neptune and areas as I go along. Okay, So,
the last time Uranus was in the sign of Gemini
was through at the nineteen forties, and we saw the
birth of people like David Bowie, Dully Parton and astrologer
(26:18):
Liz Green. So this indeed was a generation who has certainly,
you know, had away with words and they have influenced
the masses. But more significantly, the nineteen forties are widely
remembered for World War Two, the Holocaust, the Cold War,
and atomic bombs. So we think about major advances and
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developments in technology, weaponry, communication, intelligence operations. But then interestingly,
you know what followed from World War two was the
Third Industrial Revolution in the nineteen fifties, so there was
a growing focus on computer technology and electronics. Microwave ovens,
color television were invented. And it's fascinating because even today
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we're said to be in the experiencing the Fourth Industrial revelations.
We think about AI and you know, the combination of
robots with humans. But you see, the question then is
how does this information really translate to today's to today's
modern world. So the important thing then is to highlight
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that Uranus is the dispositor of Plato in this case,
because Uranus of course rules Aquarius, right, so Uranus is
going to also show us something here. The last time
these planets aligned in Gemini and Aquarius was around the
seventeen eighties. The last time these planets aligned in Gemini
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and Aquarius was around the seventeenth eighties. Now this was
a time when the industrialization movement rapidly started to take
the world by storm, and uranus itself was discovered in
seventeen eighty one. So it's really interesting to think about
with those alignments with uranus being discovered, because I even
(28:15):
think about changes to astrology itself and maybe you know,
it could even be taught in new ways, right, there
could be some interesting inventions that happen. But to sort
of bring it back to neptune entering arrays, we mix
it in. Perhaps the spiritual revolution and transformation is a
(28:37):
potential manifestation of these cosmic shifts. So my curiosity here
is will there be a greater push for humane technology practices?
And I also think about this war on human consciousness
more through this modern view, and is it a case
of either being a part of the change or continuing
(28:59):
to turn a blind eye to it Because Neptuna, suppose
as well can be like you know, you bury your
head in the sun. Yes, you don't want to look
at the reality all the situation.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, like that escapism that comes with Neptune. And I
know many of us have felt it because with pisces
and Neptune and energy, we are all very intuitive, energetic, electromagnetic,
and psychic beings. Yet those qualities and attributes feel like
they are coming online in such a rapid way that
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it's overwhelming, where it's like I just can't, I just
I can't even whether it's just your day to day
or like you said, with things going on in humanity
and the world stage, not burying our heads and really
asking what we stand for and tapping into our wisdom.
I love that you talked about this Fourth Industrial Revolution.
(29:57):
That's pretty brilliant, Hannah, and thinking about AI and how
we ethically and humanely utilize, communicate with, and collaborate with
AI without losing this incredibly unique divine spark that the
(30:17):
actual our human technology has, and that human technology of
loving our fellow neighbor and seeing people as individuals. I
know for me that what is coming up, whatever anybody's
beliefs are around sexuality or gender, those kinds of things,
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when that touches us personally, whether it's a friend's child
or in a family, when we see it through the
lens of its personal things, like the personal element of
our connection, it softens the heart it opens the mind.
And I feel like this revolution that's happening is incredible
(31:04):
technology wise, and the advancements and rapid advancements that we
have going on, and how you correlated it with the
forties and the fifties, and what's interesting, Like you said,
there's a spiritual revolution going on where we're seeing each
other more intimately and personally. And for me, I'm going
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to really contemplate that in how am I showing up
and doing this in my day to day with whatever
is on my plate? But how am I connecting more personally?
So it feels more real or true?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You know. It partly even makes me think about Jupiter itself,
because you know, we explore with the Norse Norded Pisces, right,
and one of the rulers is naptime, but then the
other rule it would be Jupiter. And so Jippitter's going
to come into cancer. That's going to obviously I activate
your first ties for you, yes, but that's from cheering
for the next year or so. And I feel like
(32:01):
that Jupiter in cancer sort of speaks to what you said.
It's just it's more about that drawing from your your
inner wisdom, your emotional insight and protecting those you love.
I think of big, big conversations about family, protection of
you know, those closest to us, especially if it is that, okay,
(32:23):
there are rockie times ahead with twenty twenty five, how
can we look after our loved ones? You know? And
I get that when it comes to that conversation, things
can be difficult for certain people. But when we really
drop back and think about who we want to protect
and keep safe, maybe those themes will be will be
(32:45):
highlighted well.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And with these themes, it's interesting because while we have
our family of origin, more and more of us are
coming into our soul family, our soul tribe, our soul community,
and we get to have both. And that's a dialogue
too of who are the intimate people in our life
that are our ride or dies, the people that we
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believe in, whether they're messy or brilliant or both at
any given time, and who do we stand by why
and how do we show up? And then how do
we allow them to show up for us? I know
for me that's been such a growth spurt is asking
for help and receiving it rather than thinking I have
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to do everything on my own or they're too busy,
or I've got this, I'm going to figure it out,
you know, just sticking in my own myself and my
ego and old coping or protective mechanisms really allowing people
to see us more fully. And I had a woman
years ago when I worked in hospice and she was
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our breathment counselor, and she was brilliant, incredible in what
she did with families and loved ones and and grief
counseling through the process of death and dying and on
the other side of it. And she was sitting in
my office one day and we were talking about asking
for help and letting people love on you, and she
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said something to the effect of, you know, Amanda, when
you're messy, when the chips are down, when things are difficult,
and you let people see that mess or that pain
and suffering and you invite them in, she said, it
creates endearment. And that was one of those light bulb
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moments because I had already seen that happen in my life.
And funny enough, Jupiter was in cancer during this conversation,
because I know it was like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
somewhere up in that frame, and that's the last time
Jupiter was Jemini cancer, right in that ballpark, Jupiter was
in cancer. And she said, that's what creates endearment, Amanda,
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That's when you know how connected you are. It's a
privilege for someone to hold space and to be allowed
to see you and I. Up until then, I had
seen it through the lens of III me me, me,
and realizing that allowing someone to support me during my struggle,
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it was an honor to them, recognizing that they were
a part of that equation too. It wasn't just about Amanda.
So Jupiter in cancer. I love that you've tied that
in because I'm like, oh, yes, you know it. Knew
this sweetness, this gentle, the nurture, that's nurture, and nurture
I think in our society. I know for myself, I've
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done this. I don't need nurture. I'm good. I'm good.
You know that's so that's too gentle when we tend
to be so strong and driven. But but nurture is
a huge part of our self, our psychology and human experience.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
And to think that Jupiter will try and the north
note along its pass so even more of the reason
to really think about, Okay, well, honestly, how am I feeling?
How am I doing? Even I think about with the
sex till to the siphe note at the same time
with virgo and virgo with the sipe note there, I well,
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even if I have to draw from myself as an example,
I can be like that where I don't need help
from other people. I can I've got this. I can
help myself. So perhaps what could come up for me
personally or perhaps even collectively, of course, would be to
be able to step back and really, you know, ask, okay,
do as you say? You know, do I need that?
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Do I need some support from other people to me?
What I'm getting from this really is like twenty twenty
five is a big emotional clans.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's just emotional detox and level and yeah, it's a
detox so we can it's like roote to rise energy
where it's healing toxic emotions and chemical reactions in the
body that are not maybe even solely from our experience
in this timeline, in this lifetime, that are in our genetics,
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in our DNA. So some of it, for me and
for many that I've talked to, we are clearing out
old trauma in the human genome. So some of this
stuff we signed up for everybody. It's like we have
stuff in our cells and DNA that we aren't even
aware of that creates fear and pain and trauma. So
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these times are unprecedented. And we came into this life
for this great awakening, like you said, and we're in it.
We're in it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's exciting. Yeah, it's certainly exciting. So just personally speaking,
I mean, I've been in psychotherapy for five years and
I am so greateful for those experiences and makes me
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think that when it comes to family, when it comes
to the past and our conditioning, there is a lot
there and oh my goodness to take especially with Saturn
being and piscesking responsibility, because you have to kind of
think too, it has to stop somewhere, you know, it
has to go. You have to kind of reflect and think, well, why,
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you know, why do I feel this? Why what's going
on with me? Reflection contemplation with Pisces, and then that
can be really powerful and significant for us in the
next step forward. But I guess the thing is is
that it's not I get that it's not so black
and white either, Oh, my goodness. It's hard to look within,
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it's hard to address our shadow, to look at traumas,
graf things like that. It's a journey, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I was having a conversation some women that I'm close
to last night, and we were talking about the alchemy
of taking personal responsibility essentially. And at first, when I
began to do that, I've been in recovery a long time,
and that was twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. I was so
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afraid to get honest about my pain and trauma and
darkness and my messiness and where I had caused harm
to myself and others. But once someone held space for
me to do that work, like you were talking about
what you've experienced, and I started to do the shadow
work and dive in and own the darkness, the alchemical
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process happened. And today and I was laughing about this
because this is my example, my personal example. About two
years ago, I was sitting in an airport. It had
just been a series of mishaps. My uber driver got
in Iraq, I missed my flight, this, that and the other.
And I wasn't ungrateful. I was glad, I was safe.
I was glad I was getting home, and I kept saying,
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what am I feeling right now? I could not, for
the life of me figure it out. And then all
of a sudden it was like, Amanda, you're feeling sorry
for yourself. You're feeling self pity. And for a minute
I was like eh, And then all of a sudden
I said, oh, eureka, it's self pity. And then once
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I identified it, the work began and I started noticing
the self pity like a freaking snowball in the months ahead,
showing up in my day to day, where before it
hadn't been in my conscious awareness or cognizant to me.
So taking that responsibility for victimhood, martyrdom, self pity, Pisces, Pisces, pisces.
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I wasn't aware until I was aware. But then when
I'm aware of something, or we're aware, it's what we
do with it. And I think, coming back to that
rebellious nature, that compassionate rebellion that we were discussing Pluto
in Aquarius and these other planetary shifts, they are supporting
us in seeing things that have not been available to
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us to recognize, and what are we gonna do with them?
What are we gonna do with them? How are we
going to heal them and be these wonderful wizards or
alchemists of this new divine error?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Awo, hundred percent. I love it because when we bring
it back into aries, you know, Aris is the warrior,
Aras is like, right, let's see this. So Saturn even
comes in and joins up with napting and actually supports us.
Yeh kinda says, do you know what you're actually going
to do the work? You know, you're not just going
to dream about it, whish we'll thinking about it. You're
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also actually going to do something with this. I just
I feel like it's going to be really really exciting
on so many levels when it comes to you know,
just changing our growth, identity changes, just transformation all in all.
Of course, course, yes, the first the way I sort
of see it as the first half of the year,
it's just like fills him ahead, boom boo boom. But
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then the second half all the ratrogrades begin and it's like, okay,
so dying, integrate, walk him up, and then we can
sit with anything. And then by twenty twenty six, then
really the new.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Era with yes, and like you said, with the numerology.
We are in a nine year and twenty twenty five
a one year in twenty twenty six, so we are
reflecting and creating closure from all of the lessons learned
yes over the past decade nine years, but it feels
like we are doing this cleansing detoxification personally and universally
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from eons millions of years of human evolution and accumulation,
but also from our present vantage point. We are truly
being rewired and reworked and upgraded. And the power is
how am I taking responsibility and bringing in the aryan
(43:12):
Aris energy of the courage to do it, the courage
to be, the courage to be all that you are?
First of all, I have to say, and I hope
everyone hears this that and I've stated this before, the
next couple of years are mythic, not apocalyptic, because there
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can be that doomsday fear that comes up with all
of this change and what could happen, because we have
tons of probabilities and possibilities. But it's the orientation within
that helps us to create and co create this beautiful
new paradigm shift individually and as a collective. And Hannah
(43:54):
and I are both like we're here for this. I
mean us just talking, We're both like, yes, this is
These are the kind of friendships, connections, relationships that can
look at this stuff, be honest and help each other
to take accountability and support each other through our quantum leaps,
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because it feels like this is a very condensed energy,
that it's quantum leaping us, whatever the heck that means.
That's what I feel like. We're doing this giant leap
and it's happening now, and I'm here for it, and
hopefully you know, everyone out there listening is getting that
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revitalization of curiosity and excitement to be part of this
incredible revolution of humanity and our experience and this planet.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Definitely, I read, of course through the information that I've
written up by the transits and everything else, but actually
just sitting darning with you and having a conversation, it
hits different.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
It, Hannah, same thing for me. I've been working on.
I do a guidebook every year. I've done just numerology
to help people go month over month with the numerology,
and I added some astrology in this year because some
people were saying, can you add in a little bit
of the astrology and I didn't want to go deep
into transits, but because we have so many planetary shifts,
(45:26):
the eclipses, utilizing where the sun is, the full and
new moons, it's simple, yet there is a code. But
as I was going through all of it and writing
and just channeling and tuning in, I was like, gosh,
this is a lot. Wow, this is a lot. Whoa,
that's a big shift. Oh gosh, Okay, what does that mean?
(45:46):
How do I communicate this? How do I encourage people
to reflect on it? It was feeling heavy for me
and daunting a bit, even though I'm not scared. But
now as I'm talking to you, I'm like, yes, there
there's upliftment and excitement. So it just hits home or
reiterates the conversations in the community we create. We don't
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have to do this alone. Alone, we fall flat, We
stay in three D linear and are and in the
dangerous neighborhood of my own mind because it can be dangerous.
But when I connect with you, our energy is like, yes, okay,
we don't know, but we know we're here for this,
Like we're not alone unfer Sun.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
And that's where I think Pluto and Aquarius really acts
as like a big, massive theme. You know, you think
about Pluto being that mean generational planet that stays in
the sign for the longest so and also Pluto being
ushered in first it's like, okay, yes, community, teamwork, what
about your collective ems? How do you want to make
the world a better please? But then equally I think
(46:53):
about Aquarius as sure it's about community and grips, but
it's also by individuality and independence and thinking along the
lines off charity starts from home. You know, if you
want to see these big collective shifts in the world,
you also have to really think about how you're showing
up then as you were, you know, rightfully saying it's
like that recognition of day to day action, those small
(47:15):
things that you can do. Thinking about Naptune a little
bit more as so the thing about this I think,
which is quite exciting, because yes, Aries is new beginnings, right,
it's this fresh, action orientated sign. But Neptune takes one
hundred and sixty five years to travel through the entire
zodiacs of this within itself is like the first of
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our lifetime, so it's pretty huge in a similar way.
And yes, Pluto and Aquarius too, you know with that
big the amount of time it takes Pluto to travel
through all the signs. But what I think about here
is the last time that Neptune was in Aries, so
that was in the late the mid sorry, the mid
to late eighteen hundreds. So people like Beatrix Potter was born,
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Mary Curry and Henry Ford. But they were pioneers, So
they're pioneers within their own right. So could we say
new poets, writers, illustrators, storytellers, chemists, scientists, engineers. Yeah, I
think this can really be where the world just goes
(48:22):
through this innovation. It's really a highly innovative time to
act as trail blazers for the next generation. So it's
going to be really interesting, I think, especially for children
that are born. Yeah, with that combination, you know, Pluto
and Aquarius and then Neptain and Ares and bring even
Uranus and Gemini into that boom. That is really very innovative, inventive.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Stuffs and bringing the genius to the masses, not the madness,
the genius and genius skin borderline madness of course, but
we all know we know that. But there's something electric
back to Uranus, to the energy field, the electromagneticism of
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the energy field and remembering that we are electromagnetics and
our hearts. It comes back to our hearts. I was
talking with some people recently, and our brain emits a
minute electromagnetic frequency compared to the heart. The heart is
the greatest electromagnetic frequency in our bodies. And we're discovering
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more and more intelligence in and around and with the
organ of the heart. And when we talk about the
heart chakra and heart opening that energy in our body,
how are we healing our hearts or living from our
hearts being these pioneers from the orientation of the heart.
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And I tell you what, Hannah, I contemplate this a lot.
It's a feeling, right, it's a sensation, it's an opening.
And can I believe that we can live in a
world where poverty is eliminated, people have enough food, energy resources,
clean drinking water, safe and healthy places to live with
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this massive population that we have, And we can default
into cynicism or oh, that's not my problem, I don't
have to think about it. Things that we've already discussed.
But I feel like we're moving into this personal awareness
where anything is possible. Let's live from that space. And
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I don't mean delusion Neptune pisces, but really believing so
much like infinitely greater and bigger, but from the heart
your life.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Node and Acquius is just wow, Amanda, It's just you
can you can feel any and three through communicate it.
I mean what I'm even getting and trying to combine
this and with a bit is things like sacred geometry,
quantum mechanics, metaphysics. I think we're gonna see more of
those subjects, you know, even divination, natural magic you call
(51:20):
all those things. We're going to see more of this,
that more of these things be talked about, bought through
a more scientific lens. I'm excited to say.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Nothing to the credibility and I feel like, yes, my
South node Inequarius from other lifetimes in my soul, like
numerology for me, it's that language of numbers and frequency
of numbers that I know, I see and they break
open something within me and and other people. Astrology the language,
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it's that psycho spiritual language that also now is gaining
traction and validation through scientific study and evan and it's
like for many of us, we're like, finally, finally we
can have some cred and i don't even use the
word wu wuo. I'm not a big I think it
just kind of waters it down a little bit. But
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it's almost like the wu is getting the scientific backing
and it's becoming normalized, and not in a way that
infringes upon people's belief systems, their religion. It just it
enhances the again that psycho spiritual component of our human
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makeup and our interconnection in ways that are becoming more
valid or validated and clarified. Even parts of mysteries of
the universe are becoming more scientifically clear and helping us
to advance forward, to evolve.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
It should be really really exciting to see what else
comes out and about the research that's been done to
with the aliens, extraterrestrialists.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
That's very of course it is, and all the things
that have either oh that doesn't exist, that back to
that that doesn't exist, I'm not sure about that. The
dialogue and the discussion and the evidence coming through of well,
my goodness, we live in this vast universe. Do we
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truly believe that we are the only intelligent life form
in this massive, massive universe? And what is going on
and also not from a place of fear and invasion
and Independence Day. You know, I go back to that
original movie Independence Day. They're going to invade and take over.
(53:52):
I feel like there are many beings, extra dimensional beings
who have been aiding, supporting, helping us, and are rooting
us on to see planet Earth and humanity awaken to
its divinity, its capabilities. But again from this place of
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just interconnection and love the heart center, I love.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
That it's the guidance that those beings provide that support.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, it's exciting, it's so exciting. It absolutely is so
one of the things. And I want to make sure
I have some of these dates so I can give
everybody listening. Neptune will enter aries and that that's at
the end of March. Saturn enters aries, and it's not
in aries, it's not going to be there completely, but
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it's from May late May to early September. Jupiter will
enter cancer in June, and Urinus enters Gemini in July.
So I'll break this down in some other podcast episodes,
but I wanted Hannah's insight, which she has articulated so
clearly and beautifully, especially referencing us back to some of
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these major outer planet shifts that are once in a lifetime,
because their orbits are so vast and long time wise
temporarily that these are big shifts that are once in
a lifetime. And even though longevity is shifting and has
(55:29):
been and is extending, these are once in a human
lifetime experiences that we have not yet experienced. So there's
this freshness again, this airy and energy of freshness, newness.
We are here now for these quantum leaps.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Well, Hannah, thank you for coming back onto Soul Sessions
and sharing all of your expertise, but also your heart
and your excitement and enthusiasm. I think both of us
and I know it translates we're pumped up and motivated.
And I hope that this has instilled some higher frequencies
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and excitement and encouragement for everyone out there to go deeper,
to take your personal responsibility and to zoom out, like
Hannah said, learning to not get caught up in the details,
to really really recognize is this important in the grand
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scheme of things? I love when you said that in
the beginning, Is this important in the grand scheme of things?
What does this really mean? What is my motive? Why
am I doing this? What legacy am I leaving and
how can I do that each and every day from
this place of connection and the heart. Anything else you
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want to add as we wrap up and close that
you want to remind anyone or share.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
So I was thinking about before Neptune and Uranus meet
their shifts, right, because Neptune is still hanging out the
very end of Pisces, Urinus at the end of Torus.
And this is just something that I've observed on social
media things like that, and I think what's fascinating is
that what's been brought to light quite heavily would be
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things like shopping, addiction and over consumption. Bursting the consumption
bubble is something that I put on. And then also
beauty standards. You know a lot of things to do
with beauty standards. You notice these themes I'm just going off,
you know, from what people are talking about online in
those spaces. So I find those connections interesting because Urinus
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and Taurus highlights things like consumption, spending money, and then
Neptune and Pisces can be that addictive quality and where
we can be overly idealistic. So hopefully when there are
those moves off book ploets, these kinds of concerns will
be addressed in a whole different way. You know, maybe
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we'll see people questioning these matters more so. And I
think that's what we're starting to say. It's greater awareness.
I guess when it comes to those areous.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
You and I are energetically and telepathically on the same page.
I'm a bit mind blown at the correlations and synchronicities.
One thing that has been personally weighing on me that
I've been contemplating and beginning to take clear action around.
My husband and I lived in Belize for three years
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and we moved to Belize. We were there during the pandemic,
and really the motivation was to simplify, to live in
community with nature more closely, to pare down the materialism
the things, and we lived beautifully and simply, and we
moved back to the United States. When my mother was
terminally ill. We bought a help, we moved her in
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and I remember how it was very jolting to my
system to come back into the consumerism of the Western world.
And then inflation was just out of control. I mean
it was hard. I mean I felt it on my senses.
I felt it obviously in my bank account and the
fear that comes with that. But just in the last
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two months, we're at a stage where we've recalibrated and
rebalanced and we're working to figure out what are the
next steps. But everything in my heart says, clean house, simplify.
You don't need these things, and I know that I don't.
But taking action and what all of that looks like,
and we are actively figuring out how to downsize to simplify,
(59:46):
so it frees us up, frees me up, my husband
and I up to be able to live life more
fully and from the heart versus with the weight of
the material world and money and finances. And I know
other people have been feeling that, So that what you
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just the note that you just closed on hits personally
home to me as I wrap up twenty twenty four
that much of my journaling is around taking the appropriate
and healthy steps to align with my truth within, which
is living a much more materially simple life. Now I
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do like getting a manicure, and I they're my makeup,
and I'm a libra. I mean, you know, I love
certain I love the beauty element of things, but I
also know that I can live on the same pair
of denim cutoff shorts and tank top and a couple
of pair of shoes and feel like the most abundant
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human on the earth. So I hope that that translates
and resonates for all of you. Is how you're simplifying.
So the material weight is no not consuming the light
of your heart, the infinite expansion of the heart space. Well, Hannah,
thank you for joining me on Soul Sessions and coming back. Everyone.
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us and Hannah. It's just a I feel so uplifted today.
Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Thank you, thank you about the thanks for having me back.
It was a great session.
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Hi, everyone, It's Amanda Riguer Green. Welcome to Soul Sessions today.
I've got a special returning guest, Hannah Francie, and she
is an astrologer who I have followed for years. What
I love about Hannah is she knows her stuff. She
knows her stuff, she speaks it from her soul, but
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she is so accessible and relatable when it comes to
thinking about and incorporating astrology into our lives and then
looking at our natal charts, so we can really create
a simple and accessible road map to navigate all the shifts,
twists and turns that we encounter in our day to
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day and do it with greater grace and ease. Welcome back, Hannah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hi amana, thank you so much for having me back.
I'm so excited to talk about twenty twenty five with.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You, me too. Twenty twenty five is a big year numerologically, astrologically, energetically.
We've I mean, we've been in a big year in
twenty twenty four, but I feel like twenty twenty five
breaks the mold a bit. What do you think about
twenty twenty five and some of the astrology and energy.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
One hundred percent? Yeah, And I was actually listening to
your most recent podcast episode, you know, and you were
talking about with twenty twenty five being representing the number
nine in numerology, and I thought that just the connections
there when numerology and astrology meet, it's a lot of
clearing space. We have those outer planets, you know, Uranus
(01:48):
and Nepting entering different signs, and Pluto of course has
just moved. And then by twenty twenty six with that
number one year, then it's like a whole new era.
So twenty twenty five is really, I think, a great
year to prepare clear spaus go within. I'm excited for.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It, me too, Me too, And I love that you
recognize the numerology and the code, the dialogue that the
astrology and numerology creates it. To me, it feels so
divinely orchestrated. It's like the universe is rooting for us,
even though it's like, Okay, there's change coming, There're gonna
(02:32):
be big shifts, and what you just said about going
within where our sovereignty is, our empowerment is, and twenty
twenty four has done a number on many of us.
I know for me on really recognizing my power. But
from this higher place, which I'm a pretty spiritual person
(02:53):
and in tune with those things. I know you are
as well. But I've seen a lot of shifts and
changes with people really recognizing their agency, their authority, and
twenty twenty four just a little bit of recap and
reminder for everybody with the energy of the eight. In numerology,
we learn through polarity, and that's one of the first
(03:15):
things Hannah and I are going to jump into is
polarity of the nodal axis shift. It's one of the
first big things that happens. But learning through polarity. So
for me, when I feel disempowered or disengaged or disillusioned, exhausted,
run down, it's recognizing it, honoring it, and processing it,
(03:37):
but also knowing that my body, my soul is asking
me to draw in that polarity of empowerment, engagement, creativity, spontaneity, whatever,
the polarity, vitality, really finding new ways of simplifying to
create greater vitality, more quality. So let's die in and
(04:01):
let's talk about the nodal axis shift. The nodal axis
for all of you out there, this is the north
and the south node of the moon. And the North
and South node. The North node has been in Aries
and the South node has been in its polarity of Libra.
So we've had tons of lessons around individuality and how
(04:23):
we relate to people. And the pull is the North
node where we're going as a collective, and it's been
more around our individuality, our mighty I am. I have
a good friend Hannah, and she always says she's a
Libra like me, but her motto is stand up for
yourself and not against the other person. And to me,
(04:47):
that feels very much like North node in Aris, South
Node and Libra really gaining our voices yet incorporating the
other in respectful diplomatic ways, but not compromising as much
or being nice for the sake of the peace, or
being nice and pushing down our own needs, truth beliefs,
(05:12):
whatever that may be. So let's talk about the nodal
shift into the North node transitting into Pisces and the
South node transitting into Virgo. It's polarity, and this happens
in January.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, so it begins from the eleventh of January for
another so for eighteen months basically, and I slightly want
to back try to track a little bit with that,
because firstly, I picked up on that word that you
said beginning of by the road math, and I feel
as if as we comes to the end of twenty
twenty four we enter twenty twenty five, Marcury being in
(05:51):
such terrists the retrograd is an opportunity for us to
review that Vira rgue math. So look back and see right,
where are we coming from? From that understanding. From that recognition,
we can have a for our idea of where we
want to go. So that's been really useful for us.
And then Mars retrograde as well, you know, coming into
the new year. The really fascinating thing about Mars retrograde,
(06:13):
I think is when it turns direct, it will be
piscey season and then the north no will be in Pisces.
So what we see here is an opportunity for us
to kind of dive in. This is why I feel
emotional regulation and you know, really thinking about how we
can nurture ourselves, support ourselves unequally to you know, we
(06:34):
think about family and home with cancer. Of course, it
will be important though for us to slow on and
to really consider, you know, our choices, our options, things
like that. Especially given with Mercury and Jupiter at the
moment with their retrograde motions. I hope I'm not going
too off track here, but just interestingly Jupiter's retrograde and
(06:56):
Gemini Mercury retrograde and Sanitarius again a lot of choices,
so very good for us to review. So therefore, with
the nodes, back to the nodes. The fascinating thing I
think about the north node in Pisces is that we
have an opportunity to really go within, to dive deeper
into our unconscious, to go through these renewals and to reset.
(07:19):
It's like a resetting period, especially when we align that
a bit with that that nine number that of course
you brought off as well. So that's really fascinating. But
at the same time, with this life note being in Virgo,
a lot of this is about our body, you know,
It's about those healthy decisions and choices we make. There's
(07:40):
one part of it where the north node in Pisce
says spiritual awareness. I think about even our connection with difinity,
you know, spirituality. A lot of people are really starting
to question these things. But then with Virgo, it's more
about okay, well, how to actually feel within my body
and which choices are I making so that I can
(08:00):
love a healthy, healthier sort of lifestyle. So it's trying
to in a way combine the two naturally. With this
life note in Virgo, there can be that tendency off
fixing compulsively to jump in and fix.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's a really good way to fit to put it,
fixing compulsively. And you and I chatted a little bit
before we started recording, and I reflecting on the Virgo
that's in my chart, and that is one of those
things where I'm like, oh, we get to look forward
(08:38):
to healing this rather than oh, gosh, it's gonna flare up,
because it will flare up. So it's it's in front
of us, almost exacerbated. But fixing compulsively. What a beautiful
way to articulate that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think it can be where you know we fuss,
where when do we fuss? When do we worry unnecessarily?
And when can we be a bit pedantic? I think
Argo at times can get caught up in details that
really with Northwold and Pisces, the north wind and Pisce says,
does it really modern the ground scheme of things? You
may think it does, but maybe it doesn't. Right now,
(09:15):
let's try and expand it a bit, and let's try
and not control or fix in that way and maybe
step back a little bit and to hey, you know what,
go with the flow with PC's flow a little bit
with versus virgo.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Which it's so interesting for that energy and that that
energetic signature to really motivate us to go with the flow.
And that's a statement that we all say. Yet it's
one of those things for me. I know when I'm
in the flow because things are easy, things are fluid,
(09:55):
even challenging or dysfunctional circumstances, relationships, work, family, whatever may
be coming up, if I am centered internally and trusting
and what you just said about is it really that
important in the grand scheme of things, that's beautifully said
(10:16):
to remember to zoom out. I get a lot of
us get so focused on the minutia and the details
that we make it our world, and then it writes
a program that exacerbates it. Being able to step back.
And you know what that makes me think about, Hannah,
is remembering back to the pandemic and how we were
(10:37):
forced to reprioritize, reorganize our lives and it was from
drastic change and all sorts of collective trauma, I mean,
a world shift, but so many people enjoyed being at
home enjoy I mean there were times obviously the converse
of that where we went a little mad, a little nutso,
(10:59):
but we we reorganized and reprioritize things, and I know
so many people came out of that more clear and
true around what they enjoy and having space and balance.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. I love that because it makes me think about
with Jupiter and Saturn. So they will still square one
another coming into twenty twenty five as well, and it's
that opening square between Jupiter and Saturn, and that great
conjunction happened in twenty twenty, you know, when when the
pandemic hit. So the way I sort of feel it
(11:35):
is Saturn and Pisces is pointing toward how we can
strengthen our spiritual gifts and even just focusing on our
emotional wellbeing. So in a way, Saturn's already been ushering
in these themes and putting in the work making time
for ourselves in this regard, and then the North node
is basically just going to come along and you know,
(11:57):
support that in a way. But also just usher in more,
you know, more themes to do with those spiritual elements.
And then Jupiter being in Gemini. With that square, you know,
we've also seen the I would say, the scatteredness, the
jittery behaviors, nervousness, fantasies, building castles in the sky a
(12:17):
little bit. And so I think with the square, things
are going to become a lot more clearer. I think
it's just important for people to slow down and to
really ask themselves, right, what are my intentions and what
do I want, you know, going into this next new era,
because the new era is going to be as you
were talking about the beginning. It's it's very different. You know,
(12:39):
we have Uranus being in an Earth sign, Pluto being
in an Earth sign, and what we notice with Urinus
and Pluto, you know, or things to do with people
and positions apart, money grade, things like that. So those
planets are going to take on a whole new element,
a whole new form with Pluto Aquarius this air sign,
(13:02):
Uranus and Gemini another air sign. It's about the people,
I think, you know, really this is about unawakening. I
see personally the twenty five and beyond as the great
awakening because people are they're tuned in, they're questioning. Even
with you know those things you mentioned about the pandemic, Well,
(13:23):
there's a lot of misinformation and things like that, and
we've seen this intensify over the years. But we've also
seen equally people going hold.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
On, why yeah, that curiosity, especially having Jupiter in Gemini
and then once we have Urinus starting to touch Gemini
and come in and move from Taurus. I love Taurus,
and I love the steadiness of Taurus, but Gemini changes
the mind, changes the game. And of course one of
(13:55):
the beautiful cornerstones of Gemini is curiosity. So people asking questions, Hmmm,
do I believe that? Hmmm, is that really true? Or
is that true for me? And I've seen that in
so many people, and it can be frightening in the
sense that long held belief systems or values or things
(14:16):
that we've been taught or shown or modeled in our society,
in our family of origin, our environments, people are gaining
this greater curiosity and willingness to explore things, maybe not
quite sure yet what they trust, know or believe, but
(14:39):
knowing that something is changing, and that uncertainty also creates
a little bit of unrest internally externally because things are changing, friendships, relationships, jobs, whatever,
and then the bigger picture, so, like you said, finding
that slowing down a bit, find our center, our stillness
(15:01):
within the prayer, the meditation, getting out in nature, the
things that we can do, shoot getting a manicure. My
big thing is do your spirituality simply. And I remember
years ago I look back to getting like a manicure
pedicure and being on my phone and answering questions or
(15:24):
doing twenty five things rather than just sitting in the
massage chair for thirty five minutes and relaxing. And I
started to do that years ago, and to just enjoy
thirty forty minutes of time. And then that was that
snowballed into other ways. I could become more present, more
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aware and still and use the gift of the present moment.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I love that. I feel like what you just explained
is so of ourpupset that I've ault thought like chickpitter
score Soder. That's beautiful, Yeah, because I mean you're so right.
We do live in this very frantic just no ein
EI society and everything so instant, and I was thinking
about with even Neptune entering Aras in twenty twenty five,
(16:15):
and of course Saturn following shortly after. And I was
thinking of Neptune as addiction. So I think a big
part even of Saturn joining up, will be about delayed gratification.
Maybe what we could say is some kind of new
beginning to do with this addictiveness that we have, especially
to social media, like as you were saying, you know,
(16:38):
we were getting your manicure, but yet you know, you're
thinking about your phone and other you know, other things,
and it just shows that we can really be like
that as a society. And I know myself, I can
be like that. And it's that even with Gemini that
you know that part of it there's multiples, multiples, just
so many open tabs and things like that. But yeah,
(17:00):
I think with ARES, it's like the beginning of a
new a new cycle, because you know, ARIS is all
about new beginnings. And maybe we will say greater maybe
discipline on our parts, greater self control as well, especially
if it is that there are any you know, certain
addictive tenancies or certain habits that we want to shift
(17:22):
and hey, you know, we bring up back to the
nodes with the Sivee node and Virgo, Northoda and Pisces.
Maybe that by leaning a little bit into the Sivee
node and Virgo, we can draw from those gifts of like, Okay,
is this healthy for me? Is this good for me?
You know, kind of pull from different areas of the
of the placements of the stars, if you will.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's funny this morning, when I got up, I've been traveling,
so my schedule has been a little bit off, and
I love my routine, my schedule, but I can and
also be addicted. I noticed myself missing my morning routine.
And I love spontaneity, I love busting up routines, but
(18:11):
I was very aware in my travels the last few
weeks of how in my mind I was thinking I
should be doing this, I need to be doing this,
I need to be eating this. I'm not taking these supplements.
I mean, and that's part of the beauty of my
health and wellness. But I also noticed my addiction to
my routines and my health and wellness, and the fear
(18:32):
that was coming up, Oh, Amanda, You're not gonna have
these supplements or this routine. So isn't that ironic? I mean,
that was one of the key takeaways. And I kept
laughing at myself on my travels because I kept thinking, Amanda,
you have everything you need, you're find can't you just
ease into the moment? And so that's what I was
(18:53):
reflecting on this morning and kind of laughing, you know,
as I got up and I was doing my meditation
and journaling and being grateful to be home, but then
laughing at how I can be addicted to the healthy
things in an unhealthy way. Does that make sense? I
know it sounds a little nutso, but that's the awareness
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that I feel like so many of us, what you're articulating,
are gonna come into awareness of our addictions and the subtle,
more subtle addictions if you don't have something going on
where it is drugs, alcohol, screen time, relationships, more subtle
addictions where we get obsessive, compulsive in our mind or
(19:35):
attached to something and where we can maybe relinquish our
control or our grip on the steering wheel. That's always
the way I think of it, like holding ten and
two really tightly on the steering wheel, like it's pouring
down rain or snowing and you've got to keep control
or versus like relaxing on a sunny day and just
turning the music up and rolling the windows down.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yes, yes, trade because it is very Virgo that like
the compulsiveness, obsessed with compulsiveness. And we even think about
from what you're saying, it's all of the self help
books and information I there, so there can be that
addictiveness to self help. And then you think about Virgo
and can very much represent perfectionism, and it's like that
(20:21):
within itself is like you think you're imperfect, so you
need to fix yourself, you need to be perfect. But
to say that is to suggest that you're not perfect.
But then it's a never ending live but you're just
going round and rhying. But Virgo, I think, is also
about that self containment. Virgo is it's also about being
able to say, do you know what? Actually I am not?
(20:42):
And so well I know for myself anyway, especially and
maybe selfishly speaking, my rising is in Virgo, and then
the seventh is in Pisces, so I can maybe get
a feel for how the nodes shifting will influence me.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That's a big tree. And for those of you out there,
we discussed this that don't you know, aren't is aware
of your natal chart. It's such a lovely time. Hannah
on her website, Hannah's Elsewhere, has wonderful resources to help
guide you through understanding your natal charts, so you can
see where the planets are moving. But what Hannah just
(21:20):
articulated for herself is this, with this access shift, her
north notice will be transiting through her first house and
the south node through her seventh house. So that gives
her some awareness that some of her identity and control
around her identity is going to be changing in some way,
and then relationships are going to be highlighted seventh house.
(21:43):
I love how you brought it back home, and for
all of you out there, I hope that you can
find where the nodal axis are in your chart, where
Virgo and Pisces are, especially the early the late degree.
Excuse me, because when the nodal access shift, and for
those of you out there who aren't as proficient yet
(22:04):
in some of your degrees, in the way astrology works,
the funny thing about the nodes is, and I'm I'm
gonna just say this simply, it's like they move backwards.
So as the node shifts from Aries the first sign
of the zodiac into Pisces, it's moving backwards, so it's
not moving into zero degrees of Pisces, it's moving into
(22:26):
twenty nine point five to nine degrees of Pisces. So
it starts to move backward in that direction. And the
same with Virgo twenty nine degrees of Virgo and onward.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, what I'm also thinking here, a boy, it would
be so especially with the North node coming into pieces, right,
So what if the rulers would be Neptune, So Neptune
coming into aries. It's interesting because we have the eclipse
season happen at the same time, there's also marcur raptribude
in Pisces and Aries, Venus raptrobrad and Pisces and Aries.
(23:00):
And to me, that retrocred season combined with the eclipse
season is sort of like a preparation. It's getting our
minds and our bodies ready for these nixt big shifts coming.
And so to bring it back again to Neptain being
the ruler of the North node, so Neptune coming into
two arias I see as so if we think about
(23:22):
our connection with divinity, if we think about like pure consciousness,
what are the labels and the titles the stories that
we tell ourselves and how do we attach to those things,
because I think with neptin there is that sort of
dissolving quality and also hopefully being able to in combination
(23:42):
with Pluto Inaquarius to sue Mte, to look at thinks
more from a bird's eye view, to see that actually
we do have connection with the higher part, with divinity,
and it's just that our bandwidth is so so short
because of certain structures and we've been told and you know,
the narratives that we tell ourselves. So I really think
(24:04):
that the combination is sort of like a big rebellion.
It's like a rebellion against anything that tries to tell
us who we are and how debate. Yeah, freedom, it's
this anthem of freedom because Ari's Aquarius. There's so much
about independence.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Says Hannah, the sun sign in Aquarius. She's like, this
is my language. And I shared with Hannah, and I've
said this on the podcast before. My South Note of
the Moon Natalie is in Aquarius, So of course I
relate to that and am excited for how people show
up and rebel, but rebel with compassion, and rebel with
(24:47):
an open heart and a peaceful heart. All of this
Neptunian and Pissian energy. It's not about causing more chaos, violence,
war all the We could see those things play out
interestingly on the world stage. But how are we approaching
(25:09):
our own rebellion more lovingly, inclusively, compassionately, and rebelliously in
unprecedented ways, in breaking the mold and not even breaking
a glass ceiling, breaking out into the cosmos. I know
I sound mystical and esoteric when I say that, but
it's almost like we don't know what we don't know.
(25:32):
And isn't that exciting versus terrifying?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah? Definitely, And I have some information that I wrote
on yes, And the reason why I'm bringing it up
is because of what you mentioned. You know, we could
see these potential violence acts as well with the alignments,
and so what I'm about to say really involves Urinus
(25:58):
in Gemini and Pluto in Aquarius. And perhaps I'll get
back to Neptune and areas as I go along. Okay, So,
the last time Uranus was in the sign of Gemini
was through at the nineteen forties, and we saw the
birth of people like David Bowie, Dully Parton and astrologer
(26:18):
Liz Green. So this indeed was a generation who has certainly,
you know, had away with words and they have influenced
the masses. But more significantly, the nineteen forties are widely
remembered for World War Two, the Holocaust, the Cold War,
and atomic bombs. So we think about major advances and
(26:41):
developments in technology, weaponry, communication, intelligence operations. But then interestingly,
you know what followed from World War two was the
Third Industrial Revolution in the nineteen fifties, so there was
a growing focus on computer technology and electronics. Microwave ovens,
color television were invented. And it's fascinating because even today
(27:04):
we're said to be in the experiencing the Fourth Industrial revelations.
We think about AI and you know, the combination of
robots with humans. But you see, the question then is
how does this information really translate to today's to today's
modern world. So the important thing then is to highlight
(27:27):
that Uranus is the dispositor of Plato in this case,
because Uranus of course rules Aquarius, right, so Uranus is
going to also show us something here. The last time
these planets aligned in Gemini and Aquarius was around the
seventeen eighties. The last time these planets aligned in Gemini
(27:51):
and Aquarius was around the seventeenth eighties. Now this was
a time when the industrialization movement rapidly started to take
the world by storm, and uranus itself was discovered in
seventeen eighty one. So it's really interesting to think about
with those alignments with uranus being discovered, because I even
(28:15):
think about changes to astrology itself and maybe you know,
it could even be taught in new ways, right, there
could be some interesting inventions that happen. But to sort
of bring it back to neptune entering arrays, we mix
it in. Perhaps the spiritual revolution and transformation is a
(28:37):
potential manifestation of these cosmic shifts. So my curiosity here
is will there be a greater push for humane technology practices?
And I also think about this war on human consciousness
more through this modern view, and is it a case
of either being a part of the change or continuing
(28:59):
to turn a blind eye to it Because Neptuna, suppose
as well can be like you know, you bury your
head in the sun. Yes, you don't want to look
at the reality all the situation.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, like that escapism that comes with Neptune. And I
know many of us have felt it because with pisces
and Neptune and energy, we are all very intuitive, energetic, electromagnetic,
and psychic beings. Yet those qualities and attributes feel like
they are coming online in such a rapid way that
(29:31):
it's overwhelming, where it's like I just can't, I just
I can't even whether it's just your day to day
or like you said, with things going on in humanity
and the world stage, not burying our heads and really
asking what we stand for and tapping into our wisdom.
I love that you talked about this Fourth Industrial Revolution.
(29:57):
That's pretty brilliant, Hannah, and thinking about AI and how
we ethically and humanely utilize, communicate with, and collaborate with
AI without losing this incredibly unique divine spark that the
(30:17):
actual our human technology has, and that human technology of
loving our fellow neighbor and seeing people as individuals. I
know for me that what is coming up, whatever anybody's
beliefs are around sexuality or gender, those kinds of things,
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when that touches us personally, whether it's a friend's child
or in a family, when we see it through the
lens of its personal things, like the personal element of
our connection, it softens the heart it opens the mind.
And I feel like this revolution that's happening is incredible
(31:04):
technology wise, and the advancements and rapid advancements that we
have going on, and how you correlated it with the
forties and the fifties, and what's interesting, Like you said,
there's a spiritual revolution going on where we're seeing each
other more intimately and personally. And for me, I'm going
(31:25):
to really contemplate that in how am I showing up
and doing this in my day to day with whatever
is on my plate? But how am I connecting more personally?
So it feels more real or true?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You know. It partly even makes me think about Jupiter itself,
because you know, we explore with the Norse Norded Pisces, right,
and one of the rulers is naptime, but then the
other rule it would be Jupiter. And so Jippitter's going
to come into cancer. That's going to obviously I activate
your first ties for you, yes, but that's from cheering
for the next year or so. And I feel like
(32:01):
that Jupiter in cancer sort of speaks to what you said.
It's just it's more about that drawing from your your
inner wisdom, your emotional insight and protecting those you love.
I think of big, big conversations about family, protection of
you know, those closest to us, especially if it is that, okay,
(32:23):
there are rockie times ahead with twenty twenty five, how
can we look after our loved ones? You know? And
I get that when it comes to that conversation, things
can be difficult for certain people. But when we really
drop back and think about who we want to protect
and keep safe, maybe those themes will be will be
(32:45):
highlighted well.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And with these themes, it's interesting because while we have
our family of origin, more and more of us are
coming into our soul family, our soul tribe, our soul community,
and we get to have both. And that's a dialogue
too of who are the intimate people in our life
that are our ride or dies, the people that we
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believe in, whether they're messy or brilliant or both at
any given time, and who do we stand by why
and how do we show up? And then how do
we allow them to show up for us? I know
for me that's been such a growth spurt is asking
for help and receiving it rather than thinking I have
(33:31):
to do everything on my own or they're too busy,
or I've got this, I'm going to figure it out,
you know, just sticking in my own myself and my
ego and old coping or protective mechanisms really allowing people
to see us more fully. And I had a woman
years ago when I worked in hospice and she was
(33:52):
our breathment counselor, and she was brilliant, incredible in what
she did with families and loved ones and and grief
counseling through the process of death and dying and on
the other side of it. And she was sitting in
my office one day and we were talking about asking
for help and letting people love on you, and she
(34:13):
said something to the effect of, you know, Amanda, when
you're messy, when the chips are down, when things are difficult,
and you let people see that mess or that pain
and suffering and you invite them in, she said, it
creates endearment. And that was one of those light bulb
(34:33):
moments because I had already seen that happen in my life.
And funny enough, Jupiter was in cancer during this conversation,
because I know it was like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
somewhere up in that frame, and that's the last time
Jupiter was Jemini cancer, right in that ballpark, Jupiter was
in cancer. And she said, that's what creates endearment, Amanda,
(34:54):
That's when you know how connected you are. It's a
privilege for someone to hold space and to be allowed
to see you and I. Up until then, I had
seen it through the lens of III me me, me,
and realizing that allowing someone to support me during my struggle,
(35:15):
it was an honor to them, recognizing that they were
a part of that equation too. It wasn't just about Amanda.
So Jupiter in cancer. I love that you've tied that
in because I'm like, oh, yes, you know it. Knew
this sweetness, this gentle, the nurture, that's nurture, and nurture
I think in our society. I know for myself, I've
(35:37):
done this. I don't need nurture. I'm good. I'm good.
You know that's so that's too gentle when we tend
to be so strong and driven. But but nurture is
a huge part of our self, our psychology and human experience.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
And to think that Jupiter will try and the north
note along its pass so even more of the reason
to really think about, Okay, well, honestly, how am I feeling?
How am I doing? Even I think about with the
sex till to the siphe note at the same time
with virgo and virgo with the sipe note there, I well,
(36:16):
even if I have to draw from myself as an example,
I can be like that where I don't need help
from other people. I can I've got this. I can
help myself. So perhaps what could come up for me
personally or perhaps even collectively, of course, would be to
be able to step back and really, you know, ask, okay,
do as you say? You know, do I need that?
(36:37):
Do I need some support from other people to me?
What I'm getting from this really is like twenty twenty
five is a big emotional clans.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's just emotional detox and level and yeah, it's a
detox so we can it's like roote to rise energy
where it's healing toxic emotions and chemical reactions in the
body that are not maybe even solely from our experience
in this timeline, in this lifetime, that are in our genetics,
(37:08):
in our DNA. So some of it, for me and
for many that I've talked to, we are clearing out
old trauma in the human genome. So some of this
stuff we signed up for everybody. It's like we have
stuff in our cells and DNA that we aren't even
aware of that creates fear and pain and trauma. So
(37:32):
these times are unprecedented. And we came into this life
for this great awakening, like you said, and we're in it.
We're in it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's exciting. Yeah, it's certainly exciting. So just personally speaking,
I mean, I've been in psychotherapy for five years and
I am so greateful for those experiences and makes me
(38:04):
think that when it comes to family, when it comes
to the past and our conditioning, there is a lot
there and oh my goodness to take especially with Saturn
being and piscesking responsibility, because you have to kind of
think too, it has to stop somewhere, you know, it
has to go. You have to kind of reflect and think, well, why,
(38:28):
you know, why do I feel this? Why what's going
on with me? Reflection contemplation with Pisces, and then that
can be really powerful and significant for us in the
next step forward. But I guess the thing is is
that it's not I get that it's not so black
and white either, Oh, my goodness. It's hard to look within,
(38:50):
it's hard to address our shadow, to look at traumas,
graf things like that. It's a journey, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I was having a conversation some women that I'm close
to last night, and we were talking about the alchemy
of taking personal responsibility essentially. And at first, when I
began to do that, I've been in recovery a long time,
and that was twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. I was so
(39:21):
afraid to get honest about my pain and trauma and
darkness and my messiness and where I had caused harm
to myself and others. But once someone held space for
me to do that work, like you were talking about
what you've experienced, and I started to do the shadow
work and dive in and own the darkness, the alchemical
(39:43):
process happened. And today and I was laughing about this
because this is my example, my personal example. About two
years ago, I was sitting in an airport. It had
just been a series of mishaps. My uber driver got
in Iraq, I missed my flight, this, that and the other.
And I wasn't ungrateful. I was glad, I was safe.
I was glad I was getting home, and I kept saying,
(40:05):
what am I feeling right now? I could not, for
the life of me figure it out. And then all
of a sudden it was like, Amanda, you're feeling sorry
for yourself. You're feeling self pity. And for a minute
I was like eh, And then all of a sudden
I said, oh, eureka, it's self pity. And then once
(40:26):
I identified it, the work began and I started noticing
the self pity like a freaking snowball in the months ahead,
showing up in my day to day, where before it
hadn't been in my conscious awareness or cognizant to me.
So taking that responsibility for victimhood, martyrdom, self pity, Pisces, Pisces, pisces.
(40:49):
I wasn't aware until I was aware. But then when
I'm aware of something, or we're aware, it's what we
do with it. And I think, coming back to that
rebellious nature, that compassionate rebellion that we were discussing Pluto
in Aquarius and these other planetary shifts, they are supporting
us in seeing things that have not been available to
(41:12):
us to recognize, and what are we gonna do with them?
What are we gonna do with them? How are we
going to heal them and be these wonderful wizards or
alchemists of this new divine error?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Awo, hundred percent. I love it because when we bring
it back into aries, you know, Aris is the warrior,
Aras is like, right, let's see this. So Saturn even
comes in and joins up with napting and actually supports us.
Yeh kinda says, do you know what you're actually going
to do the work? You know, you're not just going
to dream about it, whish we'll thinking about it. You're
(41:45):
also actually going to do something with this. I just
I feel like it's going to be really really exciting
on so many levels when it comes to you know,
just changing our growth, identity changes, just transformation all in all.
Of course, course, yes, the first the way I sort
of see it as the first half of the year,
it's just like fills him ahead, boom boo boom. But
(42:08):
then the second half all the ratrogrades begin and it's like, okay,
so dying, integrate, walk him up, and then we can
sit with anything. And then by twenty twenty six, then
really the new.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Era with yes, and like you said, with the numerology.
We are in a nine year and twenty twenty five
a one year in twenty twenty six, so we are
reflecting and creating closure from all of the lessons learned
yes over the past decade nine years, but it feels
like we are doing this cleansing detoxification personally and universally
(42:49):
from eons millions of years of human evolution and accumulation,
but also from our present vantage point. We are truly
being rewired and reworked and upgraded. And the power is
how am I taking responsibility and bringing in the aryan
(43:12):
Aris energy of the courage to do it, the courage
to be, the courage to be all that you are?
First of all, I have to say, and I hope
everyone hears this that and I've stated this before, the
next couple of years are mythic, not apocalyptic, because there
(43:33):
can be that doomsday fear that comes up with all
of this change and what could happen, because we have
tons of probabilities and possibilities. But it's the orientation within
that helps us to create and co create this beautiful
new paradigm shift individually and as a collective. And Hannah
(43:54):
and I are both like we're here for this. I
mean us just talking, We're both like, yes, this is
These are the kind of friendships, connections, relationships that can
look at this stuff, be honest and help each other
to take accountability and support each other through our quantum leaps,
(44:15):
because it feels like this is a very condensed energy,
that it's quantum leaping us, whatever the heck that means.
That's what I feel like. We're doing this giant leap
and it's happening now, and I'm here for it, and
hopefully you know, everyone out there listening is getting that
(44:39):
revitalization of curiosity and excitement to be part of this
incredible revolution of humanity and our experience and this planet.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Definitely, I read, of course through the information that I've
written up by the transits and everything else, but actually
just sitting darning with you and having a conversation, it
hits different.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
It, Hannah, same thing for me. I've been working on.
I do a guidebook every year. I've done just numerology
to help people go month over month with the numerology,
and I added some astrology in this year because some
people were saying, can you add in a little bit
of the astrology and I didn't want to go deep
into transits, but because we have so many planetary shifts,
(45:26):
the eclipses, utilizing where the sun is, the full and
new moons, it's simple, yet there is a code. But
as I was going through all of it and writing
and just channeling and tuning in, I was like, gosh,
this is a lot. Wow, this is a lot. Whoa,
that's a big shift. Oh gosh, Okay, what does that mean?
(45:46):
How do I communicate this? How do I encourage people
to reflect on it? It was feeling heavy for me
and daunting a bit, even though I'm not scared. But
now as I'm talking to you, I'm like, yes, there
there's upliftment and excitement. So it just hits home or
reiterates the conversations in the community we create. We don't
(46:10):
have to do this alone. Alone, we fall flat, We
stay in three D linear and are and in the
dangerous neighborhood of my own mind because it can be dangerous.
But when I connect with you, our energy is like, yes, okay,
we don't know, but we know we're here for this,
Like we're not alone unfer Sun.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
And that's where I think Pluto and Aquarius really acts
as like a big, massive theme. You know, you think
about Pluto being that mean generational planet that stays in
the sign for the longest so and also Pluto being
ushered in first it's like, okay, yes, community, teamwork, what
about your collective ems? How do you want to make
the world a better please? But then equally I think
(46:53):
about Aquarius as sure it's about community and grips, but
it's also by individuality and independence and thinking along the
lines off charity starts from home. You know, if you
want to see these big collective shifts in the world,
you also have to really think about how you're showing
up then as you were, you know, rightfully saying it's
like that recognition of day to day action, those small
(47:15):
things that you can do. Thinking about Naptune a little
bit more as so the thing about this I think,
which is quite exciting, because yes, Aries is new beginnings, right,
it's this fresh, action orientated sign. But Neptune takes one
hundred and sixty five years to travel through the entire
zodiacs of this within itself is like the first of
(47:37):
our lifetime, so it's pretty huge in a similar way.
And yes, Pluto and Aquarius too, you know with that
big the amount of time it takes Pluto to travel
through all the signs. But what I think about here
is the last time that Neptune was in Aries, so
that was in the late the mid sorry, the mid
to late eighteen hundreds. So people like Beatrix Potter was born,
(48:01):
Mary Curry and Henry Ford. But they were pioneers, So
they're pioneers within their own right. So could we say
new poets, writers, illustrators, storytellers, chemists, scientists, engineers. Yeah, I
think this can really be where the world just goes
(48:22):
through this innovation. It's really a highly innovative time to
act as trail blazers for the next generation. So it's
going to be really interesting, I think, especially for children
that are born. Yeah, with that combination, you know, Pluto
and Aquarius and then Neptain and Ares and bring even
Uranus and Gemini into that boom. That is really very innovative, inventive.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Stuffs and bringing the genius to the masses, not the madness,
the genius and genius skin borderline madness of course, but
we all know we know that. But there's something electric
back to Uranus, to the energy field, the electromagneticism of
(49:10):
the energy field and remembering that we are electromagnetics and
our hearts. It comes back to our hearts. I was
talking with some people recently, and our brain emits a
minute electromagnetic frequency compared to the heart. The heart is
the greatest electromagnetic frequency in our bodies. And we're discovering
(49:34):
more and more intelligence in and around and with the
organ of the heart. And when we talk about the
heart chakra and heart opening that energy in our body,
how are we healing our hearts or living from our
hearts being these pioneers from the orientation of the heart.
(49:55):
And I tell you what, Hannah, I contemplate this a lot.
It's a feeling, right, it's a sensation, it's an opening.
And can I believe that we can live in a
world where poverty is eliminated, people have enough food, energy resources,
clean drinking water, safe and healthy places to live with
(50:20):
this massive population that we have, And we can default
into cynicism or oh, that's not my problem, I don't
have to think about it. Things that we've already discussed.
But I feel like we're moving into this personal awareness
where anything is possible. Let's live from that space. And
(50:42):
I don't mean delusion Neptune pisces, but really believing so
much like infinitely greater and bigger, but from the heart
your life.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Node and Acquius is just wow, Amanda, It's just you
can you can feel any and three through communicate it.
I mean what I'm even getting and trying to combine
this and with a bit is things like sacred geometry,
quantum mechanics, metaphysics. I think we're gonna see more of
those subjects, you know, even divination, natural magic you call
(51:20):
all those things. We're going to see more of this,
that more of these things be talked about, bought through
a more scientific lens. I'm excited to say.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Nothing to the credibility and I feel like, yes, my
South node Inequarius from other lifetimes in my soul, like
numerology for me, it's that language of numbers and frequency
of numbers that I know, I see and they break
open something within me and and other people. Astrology the language,
(51:51):
it's that psycho spiritual language that also now is gaining
traction and validation through scientific study and evan and it's
like for many of us, we're like, finally, finally we
can have some cred and i don't even use the
word wu wuo. I'm not a big I think it
just kind of waters it down a little bit. But
(52:13):
it's almost like the wu is getting the scientific backing
and it's becoming normalized, and not in a way that
infringes upon people's belief systems, their religion. It just it
enhances the again that psycho spiritual component of our human
(52:35):
makeup and our interconnection in ways that are becoming more
valid or validated and clarified. Even parts of mysteries of
the universe are becoming more scientifically clear and helping us
to advance forward, to evolve.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
It should be really really exciting to see what else
comes out and about the research that's been done to
with the aliens, extraterrestrialists.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
That's very of course it is, and all the things
that have either oh that doesn't exist, that back to
that that doesn't exist, I'm not sure about that. The
dialogue and the discussion and the evidence coming through of well,
my goodness, we live in this vast universe. Do we
(53:29):
truly believe that we are the only intelligent life form
in this massive, massive universe? And what is going on
and also not from a place of fear and invasion
and Independence Day. You know, I go back to that
original movie Independence Day. They're going to invade and take over.
(53:52):
I feel like there are many beings, extra dimensional beings
who have been aiding, supporting, helping us, and are rooting
us on to see planet Earth and humanity awaken to
its divinity, its capabilities. But again from this place of
(54:13):
just interconnection and love the heart center, I love.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
That it's the guidance that those beings provide that support.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, it's exciting, it's so exciting. It absolutely is so
one of the things. And I want to make sure
I have some of these dates so I can give
everybody listening. Neptune will enter aries and that that's at
the end of March. Saturn enters aries, and it's not
in aries, it's not going to be there completely, but
(54:45):
it's from May late May to early September. Jupiter will
enter cancer in June, and Urinus enters Gemini in July.
So I'll break this down in some other podcast episodes,
but I wanted Hannah's insight, which she has articulated so
clearly and beautifully, especially referencing us back to some of
(55:08):
these major outer planet shifts that are once in a lifetime,
because their orbits are so vast and long time wise
temporarily that these are big shifts that are once in
a lifetime. And even though longevity is shifting and has
(55:29):
been and is extending, these are once in a human
lifetime experiences that we have not yet experienced. So there's
this freshness again, this airy and energy of freshness, newness.
We are here now for these quantum leaps.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Well, Hannah, thank you for coming back onto Soul Sessions
and sharing all of your expertise, but also your heart
and your excitement and enthusiasm. I think both of us
and I know it translates we're pumped up and motivated.
And I hope that this has instilled some higher frequencies
(56:15):
and excitement and encouragement for everyone out there to go deeper,
to take your personal responsibility and to zoom out, like
Hannah said, learning to not get caught up in the details,
to really really recognize is this important in the grand
(56:35):
scheme of things? I love when you said that in
the beginning, Is this important in the grand scheme of things?
What does this really mean? What is my motive? Why
am I doing this? What legacy am I leaving and
how can I do that each and every day from
this place of connection and the heart. Anything else you
(56:55):
want to add as we wrap up and close that
you want to remind anyone or share.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
So I was thinking about before Neptune and Uranus meet
their shifts, right, because Neptune is still hanging out the
very end of Pisces, Urinus at the end of Torus.
And this is just something that I've observed on social
media things like that, and I think what's fascinating is
that what's been brought to light quite heavily would be
(57:22):
things like shopping, addiction and over consumption. Bursting the consumption
bubble is something that I put on. And then also
beauty standards. You know a lot of things to do
with beauty standards. You notice these themes I'm just going off,
you know, from what people are talking about online in
those spaces. So I find those connections interesting because Urinus
(57:46):
and Taurus highlights things like consumption, spending money, and then
Neptune and Pisces can be that addictive quality and where
we can be overly idealistic. So hopefully when there are
those moves off book ploets, these kinds of concerns will
be addressed in a whole different way. You know, maybe
(58:07):
we'll see people questioning these matters more so. And I
think that's what we're starting to say. It's greater awareness.
I guess when it comes to those areous.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
You and I are energetically and telepathically on the same page.
I'm a bit mind blown at the correlations and synchronicities.
One thing that has been personally weighing on me that
I've been contemplating and beginning to take clear action around.
My husband and I lived in Belize for three years
(58:37):
and we moved to Belize. We were there during the pandemic,
and really the motivation was to simplify, to live in
community with nature more closely, to pare down the materialism
the things, and we lived beautifully and simply, and we
moved back to the United States. When my mother was
terminally ill. We bought a help, we moved her in
(59:01):
and I remember how it was very jolting to my
system to come back into the consumerism of the Western world.
And then inflation was just out of control. I mean
it was hard. I mean I felt it on my senses.
I felt it obviously in my bank account and the
fear that comes with that. But just in the last
(59:23):
two months, we're at a stage where we've recalibrated and
rebalanced and we're working to figure out what are the
next steps. But everything in my heart says, clean house, simplify.
You don't need these things, and I know that I don't.
But taking action and what all of that looks like,
and we are actively figuring out how to downsize to simplify,
(59:46):
so it frees us up, frees me up, my husband
and I up to be able to live life more
fully and from the heart versus with the weight of
the material world and money and finances. And I know
other people have been feeling that, So that what you
(01:00:06):
just the note that you just closed on hits personally
home to me as I wrap up twenty twenty four
that much of my journaling is around taking the appropriate
and healthy steps to align with my truth within, which
is living a much more materially simple life. Now I
(01:00:28):
do like getting a manicure, and I they're my makeup,
and I'm a libra. I mean, you know, I love
certain I love the beauty element of things, but I
also know that I can live on the same pair
of denim cutoff shorts and tank top and a couple
of pair of shoes and feel like the most abundant
(01:00:49):
human on the earth. So I hope that that translates
and resonates for all of you. Is how you're simplifying.
So the material weight is no not consuming the light
of your heart, the infinite expansion of the heart space. Well, Hannah,
thank you for joining me on Soul Sessions and coming back. Everyone.
(01:01:14):
You can find Hannah Hannah's elsewhere dot com, She's on YouTube,
and as I've said before, she has the most incredible resources.
She's prolific and quality oriented in what she offers. So
following her on YouTube, on Instagram, social media, checking out
her website and all of the offerings that she does
(01:01:38):
have that are very accessible and very informative. Please be
sure and connect with Hannah. Thank you all for joining
us and Hannah. It's just a I feel so uplifted today.
Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Thank you, thank you about the thanks for having me back.
It was a great session.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Absolutely take care everyone be well. Thank you so much
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