July 21, 2022 • 39 mins
Now more than ever, we want to take care of ourselves. We spend a lot of time exercising, eating right, taking care of our mental health…why not know what our DNA makeup is? Becca and Tanya got curious so they decided to find out what 23andMe is all about.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Have you ever thought about how incredibly complex I spit is.
It may only be water, but just aliva isn't simple.
That remaining one holds incredibly meaningful information that could change everything.
And I'm not just talking about your family treat Hi.
I'm Barrett day Thurston and on this season of Spit
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and I Heart Radio podcast with twenty three and me,
we explore how DNA isn't just about ancestry. It can
also be key to understanding your health, what's good and
welcome that. If you're a bachelor or a pop culture fan,
We've got a very fun episode for you today. If
you're part of Bachelor Nation, then you might be familiar
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with Becca Tilly and her podcast Scrubbing, in which she
co hosts with a real life bff, Tanya rat. In
each episode, you can hear these friends fan girling over
their favorite shows, working through boy troubles, and hanging out
with the biggest celebrity guests. Becca and Tanya often discuss
the importance of being true to yourself, being who you
are and being proud of that, and in order to
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make confident choices in your life, it's important to arm
yourself with knowledge before taking action. And that's where twenty
three and Me comes in. Tanya recently took a twenty
three ME test and is excited to receive her reports.
She believes the health information contained in a twenty three
ME test can be empowering, especially when it comes to
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learning more about your health and family history. After discussing
what their producer Mark learned from his own twenty three
and me reports, the ladies sit down with representatives from
twenty three and Me to learn more about what Tanya
can expect to learn from hers. Let's listen in as
Becca and Tanya dive deeper and learn how the information
contained in twenty three test reports can inspire you to
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take action in your own life. Scrubbing In with Becca
Tilly and Tanya Wrath and I Heart Radio Punk. Hello everybody,
we are scrubbing in scrub a dub dub um. How's
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it going so good? So? I have been cleaning out
my apartment and I got rid of two trash bags
of just like old spices that are expired and just
kind of like all that kind of stuff, you know. Yeah.
I found my journal that I used when I did
the calling in the one, Yeah, which remind listeners that
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what year was that, So I believe I started it
in uh and into nineteen, so this was I don't
even know, a couple of years before the pandemic. And
basically it's a it's a seven week program where every
day you have homework and you do this thing, and
you have like a journal that you write every You
have like one journal that you do all your homework in, right,
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and a lot of the homework involves cutting and pasting
and kind of making these like collages. So my journal
has several different collages. But I was looking through and
I found this one and it is so like specific
and crazy because this is before I met Red Star
and I literally like found him, like I brought him
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to me, like I called in the one. So for
the listeners described for the listeners who can't hear or
can't see, sorry, um, it's a it's a like a
picture of a little a little kid and a man
and they're like in a lake or something right in
the background, and then there's the words Mr Sunshine across
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the lake and then there's a picture of Gabrielle Union
and Dwayne Wade. So I love the relationship between Gabrielle
Union and Dwyane Wade. I've always loved them. I think
they're just like a really good team. Um, they are
true partners and I feel like they treat each other
like king and queen, right, So I love their relationship.
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What I didn't realize at the time Gabrielle union. And
they have their own kids as well. But she is
also a step mom. Wow. And Mr Sunshine describes my
boyfriend to a t like he is just like this,
like happy positive man. Mark's grimacing, but it's true. I'm
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kind of with Mark, Okay. So he is like a
ball of sunshine. That guy is happy as a clam.
I think you are. I think you are missed Sunshine,
which would then would make Robbie Mr Suntime. I don't think.
I don't think you've ever called him Mr Sunshine, but
I think people refer to you as Sunshine all the time. Okay.
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And we have a dog together named Sunny Sunshine. That's
more significant than any of the other things. So with Sunshine,
this is the name is Sunny Sunshine. Her name is
Her name is Sunny Sunshine, Radha. Since when was her
middle name Sunshine? Talk? It is Sunshine? Okay. When you
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found imagining Tanya like going to her head house. She's
going to bring this all together, and she's like, Sunny
doesn't have a middle name. It's Sunshine. No, it is
Sunshine because we wanted to name her Sunshine, but we
thought Sunny was cuter. Prove this somewhere anywhere. We might
need a text from Robbie. Robbie's kids who play with
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Sunny of the time at least know that her middle
name is Sunny and her last name is rad. Wait. Wait,
please wait, Tanya, please don't text him. Can I text
him and ask what her middle name is? Yeah? Please
don't promise. I'll leave it here and I'll put my
hands up like this, Hi, what is Sunny's middle name?
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Or maybe you can say full name. No, that's good,
I'm gonna say middle name because that feels like my me.
I'm like doing something where I'm doing something with Phoebe. Okay,
So anyways, I think it's really cool and I a
lot of those things I think you put on there,
and I think this is really cool about manifesting and
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vision boards and stuff. Is that you put it on there,
not actually knowing exactly what it's gonna look like, but
being able to look back and go like, oh my gosh,
who would have known? And I haven't still touched that
journal in years. I like literally found it because I've
been kind of cleaning out and going through stuff in
my kitchen. It was like in my sadly it was
in my junk drawer, but um, I started flipping through
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it and so I was like, really kind of taken
aback by that. Well, Um, I can't believe that was
in two thousand eighteen, Like my mind is blown up.
Feels like last year we were talking about calling him
the Wind, but it's a seven week program and I
didn't really I didn't do it every single day for
the seven weeks. I think it took me a little
bit longer. So one time him, you've really put in
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the work. You really couldn't. Amongst us, I will have
to say that it is possible that when you do
these vision boards, you are then free to retroactively justify
everything that's on them, and you've done this in the past.
Was on one and then like three years ago he
was a guest on the show and you're like, holy crap,
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my vision board came true. I think that's a stretch
because John Legend and my boyfriend went to the same college. Okay, again,
if if you would, if you hadn't met somebody totally
different than Robbie, you would find ways to make that book. Guy,
That's not true. Mark, Listen, sometimes it is easy to
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do this. And then I had the vision board with
this cabin that I literally ended up staying in. But
that was more like a direct, Like that really was
a direct. I'm gonna put my hands on just to
show you, guys, one more photo. I'm not texting him,
I swear I already got a respond to this, so
funny hold on. And so there's also this picture that
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I put of this couple kissing on a bed and
the words right above it say in the right love,
we will discover new love for ourselves. And he's done
that for me. Okay, but I think this is what
Mark saying that anyone that was not so specific get
thank you. But I I think that the key here
is that you manifested a love that you cherished and
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who loved you, and it was what you were looking
for and you found that. And I think that's the
main focus of finding this journal is not so much
the specifics, but more about you calling in the one. Guys,
it was pretty exciting for me. Okay, but if you
had met a different guy, totally different, who doesn't have kids,
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and like, look at this. Look he's right there with
a little boy. He was with his nephew last weekend,
and he's so great with kids. I totally see how
this comes together. And Mr Sunshine on our first date,
he had to get his sunglasses out of the glove
comparment because the sun was in his eyes so brightly.
I mean, you, guys, how perfect is this? Okay explained
the Dwyanne Wade and Gabrielle Union connection. I still can't
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explain that with Robbie. Oh my gosh, you just don't
get it. Mark, you just fell in fact that she
is a step mom. You would have found a way
you have said. Oh my god, you guys, he loves
basketball and I put Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union on
my vision bar I can't believe it. Guess what, I
didn't even know he was an athlete. And by the way,
Robbie does love basketball. There's another tie in there. It
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is what team did he play for? I'm not sure.
I don't like basketball. Okay, wait, you guys, this mess,
this thread is the funniest thing. So I just said, Hi,
what is Sunny's middle name? And he says l L
hi dot dot dot Not sure. She has many middle names,
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not sure if anything official. I think it's Randy Moss
Sonny Randy Moss, yeah, rad, but it has changed several times.
So I said, like the dead EMERGI and he goes.
I just asked the kids. They also said Randy Moss,
Randy Moss. There you go. That is not that is
not that is not her official middle name. He said it.
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He said what is Tanya saying? And I said Sunshine
and he goes, l O L. I mean that has
been tossed around. No, Randy Moss, shiner. I'm calling her
Sonny Randy Moss from now on, you guys. There's no
official birth certificate for a dog, so there's not like
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Tanya Tanya. This is this is actually important. Randy Moss
is an professional athlete, as is Dwayne Way. Bring it on, Becca,
bring it on. I'm telling you, I'm I'm trying to
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bring out your bachelor journals and see what you manifested.
I literally have life in general organized my place so
well that I have no idea where it is, but
I will locate it and find because I do want
to read some of those excerpts because they're pretty funny.
But um, yeah, we'll just stick with with yours today.
But when you said that, I was immediately like, I
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need to find the journal, and then I was like,
where would that be. It's in a nicely labeled ben somewhere.
I do know that. I'm just so happy I didn't
throw in my journal. My gosh, I mean, that is
some gold right there. I would never think you'd throw
away your journal. Like that feels so off Brandford. I
gave my book, My Calling in the One Book to
somebody else, Well, that makes sense, like you're passing it on,
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but like a journal feels like so I imagine your
your you know, excerpts are very um in depth and
something that you want to keep for your wedding one day. Honestly,
they're kind of embarrassing. No, I I'm so shocked at
the way I wrote as a twenty six year old, Like,
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that's what talked to me the most. Reading the Bachelor Journal,
I was like, wait, sounded like a high school or two.
That's how mine sound, like, I'm like I hope that
and like my fear is that, like yeah, yeah, I'm
with you there. Um. Today we're actually going to be
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talking about twenty three and me and it's kind of
like just switching gear as a tad, you know, like
from manifestation to like actual DNA yes, um, And we're
going to be talking about like kind of how important
it is to know your background for you know, multiple reasons.
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But Tanya sent hers in, you haven't gotten your results
right now. I haven't. But we're going to kind of
talk through like what are you're like, what are you
hoping for from the results and what are you looking for?
Are you nervous about anything? You expecting anything? Are you
nervous about anything? I don't know. Doesn't it tell you
like health stuff? It's yeah's health stuff. And I'm like
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pretty sure that I'm a hundred percent serbian because it's
like both my parents and their parents are and their
parents are, so I feel like I'm hand to handle
p What if you were what what would you be
if you were? I don't know, but then I would
look at my grandparents differently. What if you had something
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totally different? Would that totally shake you up? It would
be kind of interesting. Well, that's such everything. I've heard
so many crazy stories about it, of like people thinking
one thing their whole life and then just innocently doing
this test and getting the results and being like, but
there's a lot of health befits to like you can
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kind of see if you're predisposed, predisposed, pre preconditioned thinn
don't second pre disposed to certain like illnesses and ailments
and diabetes and things like that. So there's a lot
of also health benefits as well. Mark, you did it right,
I did it. I'm looking at my ancestry results right now.
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I'm nine point seven percent European, mostly Northwestern European, about
a quarter of Ashca Nazi Jewish. I'm primarily from Norway, Sweden, Germany, England, Ireland,
which none of that is terribly surprising, but it's still
fun to look at, fun to check out, and then yes,
you do the health stuff on here, nothing alarming, that
was nice. It's really fun to dig into. Plus they
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have all kinds of like i don't know what you
call them, like cute little quirks about you, like you know, um,
you are more disposed to like um butterflies, but no,
more like foods more like sto as opposed to sweet foods,
or like asparagus really makes your piece smell like stuff
like that, I'm not I'm not kidding. That was actually
in the But doesn't asparagus make everybody's piece smell? Can
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they tell us how? I've never I've never had that
with asparagus, Like I'm never like, oh my god, like
people described, I've never experienced that. I'd like to smell
you your p after you have asparagus. Okay, we'll set
that up. Okay, we'll have to do that on another day.
As Asparagus order detection likely can smell the asparagus order
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in your urine, and I can't. They nailed that one.
Kind of vague no, kind of but they say they
say you're more likely or not as likely, like, for example,
in caase bitterness, you're likely to have a cleft chin.
I do, You're likely to have to tach your lobes.
I do? You know that sort of thing? Wow? All right,
so yeah, we're gonna get back into this with reps
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from twenty three and me, so we'll be right back
with them. All right, you guys, so we're bad. Can
we have a Lisa and Stacy here from twenty three
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and me, and they're here to answer all of our
questions that we have about the twenty three in the process,
so please welcome them in to the scrubbing in oh R.
So I want you to kind of talk about you know,
when you when people here twenty three and me, they
think that it's like just ancestry they're going to see
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like where they came from. But there's so much more
to it than that, right, Yes, I'll take this on UM.
So there is a whole world of health information within
twenty three and me that is super exciting. I'm a
genetic counselor, so my background is all about genetics and
thinking through health UM. Overall our Healthless Ancestry service, there's
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over sixty five health report and they touch upon you know,
your potential chances to have a genetic um increased likelihood
for a different conditions. They also write information about genetic
variants you might pass on to your children and just
neural wellness, exercise, weight, diet, all sorts of things UM.
And then there's even the Way Through Plus membership that
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adds another twenty plus reports and ongoing features throughout the year,
So a lot of health information. I have a question
about it, like, when you get information about health, is
it kind of is it specific like percentages or what
does that look like for people when they get it?
Is it just like this is something you're likely to
maybe uh experience, or how does it work? So it
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can vary. So there's two different ways of thinking about
genetics and your health. So one is you may have
like one or two genetic variants, and those are just
like the DNA differences between people, we just call those
genetic variants. Um, you may have one or two that
like really might impact a certain condition. Um, where you
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if you have that variant, your your chances of developing
that condition, you know, maybe like three times or four
times higher than the average person. And so in those conditions,
we might tell you you have this genetic variant. Here
is how it it potentially impacts your health. How many
people with that variant go on to develop that condition? Um.
There's a whole another side of this, which is conditions
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that you might be more familiar with, like type two diabetes,
migrating things like that, where there's not just one smoking gun,
there's not just one or two genetic variants, but it
might be thousands or tens of thousands of genetic variants
that all have this like tiny little effect. And what
we do then is we add all that up to
sort of give you this overall predisposition where we tell
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you might be at increased likelihood and in those cases
then we can give you like a percent chance, right,
how many people like you? What percentage of people like
you actually have that condition? And so you can kind
of get that like, um exact number on it for yourself. Yeah,
that's really helpful. Have you all had I mean, I'm
sure there's so many stories of people who maybe never
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even considered something specific about their health being a chance
for them, and then they do this test and get
it back and get the results, and maybe they go
in for a check up and catch something that they
wouldn't have caught sooner had they not seen that possibility.
I don't know if I'm worrying this right, but have
you all had any stories like that or seen anything
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where people like it literally could save a life if
they caught something early. We do. We actually get a
lot of customers writing in and we have a whole
team that works on these amazing customers stories to get
them out there. And you know, the ones that I
think come most of mind that come up a lot
are associated with brc UM. So this is if you
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have a variant, it greatly increases your chance for breast
and a varian cancer and women there's also other certain
cancers as well, and it cannot big effect for meals too. UM.
And this is something that a lot of people have
no idea they have these variants. We only test for
a selectree and we're not diagnosing cancer right there. Stuffining
limitations testing right, UM. But if you have this very
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and UM, it's really important to get it confirmed right
You need to get confirmatory testing. But it is such
that you there's a lot of different actions that you
can take. The greatly reduced your risk for cancer because
we're talking about very high numbers here, UM. And the
very tests for a really common people that have Oscepanazi
Jewish ancestry to one in forty. So so many people
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don't know that. And ultimately we have these amazing stories
of women who have found out um, some were adopted
and had no idea they had Osponazey Jewish ancestry. UM.
Somewhere conceived via sperm donor and had no idea, right,
or some knew that had Ashtonaze Jewish ancestry, but had
no idea that there were these you know, increased likelihood
that they could have these variants. Um. And so just
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incredible stories of the actions people are able to take
and this empowerment. Um. So we've seen it from you know,
the v r A type two diabetes. We get a
lot of stories that people saying, this makes me realize
I need to take action. Right, there's some things that
I can do just living that healthy lifestyle that can
really have a big impact on reducing your chances. So
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we get a lot of these stories. Um. It's one
of my favorite parts of what I do because I
get to hear these stories and so you really get
that feeling of Okay, it's there's there's a reason of
what we're doing behind this, Right, we're actually impacting people
live And I know the test is is I did it?
So it's easy, Like you get the test and you
fill up a tube to like a certain line with
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like your spits you just like spit in it or whatever,
but is there like it Let's just say you didn't
spit to the line or if there is like would
you send it back to somebody else, like to somebody
and say like do it again or like does that
ever happen? Yeah, So we have some quality control measures.
So when you send that too off to the lab,
they're going to check to make sure that we can
you know, get enough DNA so you know your your spit. Basically,
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what we're looking at is like the cheek cells that
sort of come along for the ride in your spit.
So sometimes there's not enough cells in there, so we
can't get enough DNA out, so the lab will do
those like sort of quality controls, or there's not enough
spit or you know that it doesn't run really and
so if any of that happens, that sort of gets
kicked back and generally, well said a replacement kit so
you can give it a second try, um, you know,
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to to to get that full experience. We do whatever
we can. I was happy that it was I was
happy that it was spit because I don't know why
I thought DNA testing was like blood or like, you know,
so I was like, I don't know what you're gonna say,
is just like I'm not I don't know about pricky,
like sending the blood and then they're like, no, no,
just spin. I was like, oh, great, three it is.
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It's a lot of spit. But yes, it's a way
better collecting than than blood in my opinion, way easier,
way less dramatic. Um. Tanya and I were talking about
so Tanya, both of her parents are Serbian and her
their parents are Serbian, and she was like, I feel
like I would be a Serbian and I was. I
was saying, like, what if your results came back and
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it was totally different than what you expected. Do you
see a lot of those stories And I'm assuming people
who maybe aren't familiar if they were adopted and weren't familiar,
you know, with biological parents. But um, I imagine that
can be kind of overwhelming for people sometimes to get
these results and get answers that maybe they didn't even
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realize they had questions about. Yeah, I think what the
ancestry side. Um, you know, one thing to always keep
in mind is what we're good looking at is like
what your DNA says, and that's not the same as
like culture and the like how you grew up and
all of that, right, and so a lot of times
you know, political borders change and you know, maybe the
border has has shifted, and so you're getting a result
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of saying like, hey, I'm from this other place, but
I know my family is you know, is from here.
And sometimes the DNA doesn't reflect what we know that
happened happened in history. So, um, you know, it's it's
a start. The ancestry is sort of a start of
a journey to like look into maybe hey, maybe your
family moved and it was you know, my great great
great grandparents that we didn't know about came from somewhere else.
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So that sometimes what happens with those results. Um, but
I think what's interesting is hearing people talk about like, oh,
it was exactly what I like thought I was and
it was great, or it was exactly what I thought
it was and I wish I had found something different.
So either way, for the extended one that you were
saying like that, the um, what were you saying earlier
that there was like a second layer of it that
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you can kind of follow up and get more information. Plus, yeah,
can you get like food allergies with that or is
that totally different? So we don't have food allergies right now?
We do have a couple things that touch on food. UM.
So we have like lactose intolerance or predisposition to things
like celiac disease, but not specific food allergies. UM. Foods
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a little tough because it's um both you know you
how you react, but you know we have we're all
we all have this gut microbiome UM. And so it's
also how like all your little colonizers are reacting to
the food you eat as well. So it's a little
tough to do food allergies with just with just your genetics.
We do have to other allergies though, like dog and
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cat allergies, which is really interesting. Yes, thank you, Stacy.
I always wonder if maybe I'm like mildly allergic to dogs,
like my dog sitting right here. I would I don't,
I would never care, like I would never do anything
about it, but I've always wondered that and with cats.
But I think I think even just the basic of
something like celiac disease or lactose intolerant is really helpful
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for people because I don't think a lot of people
realize how much if it's affecting your body, how much
it affects like everything. It can affect your mental health,
Like the gut is so powerful. Let me tell you,
I never officially been told that I'm lactose intolerant, but
like the way that dairy makes me feel, I'm like
diagnosed myself. So I'm curious to see what my twenty
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three in me says about my lactose tolerance. Yeah. Yeah,
and at least you might be able to help me
out here. But lactose intolerance is really interesting me because actually,
you know, the way human I've eolution was everyone was
lacked of intolerant, and there was actually a genetic variant
that occurred that made it so that you could actually
stay lack of toler So it's much more likely for
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people to actually be lacked of intolerant in a lot
of the world. So um, it's something a lot of
people don't think about the Really it's very common. So uh,
we're actually looking at a very lactive tolerant that you know,
it's something that came about later on in evolution. That's
really cool. And I also think, like I was, I
really like that people can get the results and they
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don't have to be a scientists store a doctor to
read them and understand them because sometimes I mean when
you get your labs done at the doctor and they're
like if we sing you the labs and you look
at it and you're like, um, no idea. And so
I think um Mark was reading his earlier and talking.
He was reading it as he was, you know, talking
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to us about it, and it was so just like straightforward.
There was no moment of me like what in the
heck does that mean? Like it's all very yeah, So
I wanted to acknowledge that, and like how important was
that for you all? Because people are doing these at
home tests and making it really accessible and easy to
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get the results without feeling confused. I guess, yeah, that's
that's top of mind as we're creating these reports, is right.
We're always thinking about not just how can we make it,
you know, easy for someone to understand, but also like
who is the person that's going to be receiving this result,
and like really thinking about what what do they need
when they're receiving these different results. You know, some are
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super fun and friendly and some are more serious and
and really thinking through and keeping that person in mind
is like as a core part of how we do
our work. Yeah, I love that part about it. Um.
Is there anything else that we didn't touch on that
you would want people to know about twenty three me
that maybe haven't done it or haven't heard about it,
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or this is their first time hearing about it. You know.
I think, you know, we really feel that knowledge is empowerment, right, Um.
But it is something that you know, you can't undo knowing.
And there's a lot of things that people find you
touched upon this before, things that you never thought about
that you discover about yourself. And so I always say
the genetic counselor inside of me just as really, you know,
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think about it, but go into it with a very
open mind. We have all these education tutorials, take a
look at, um, all the information that's out there. Um.
But I really feel very strongly that knowledge is power
and there is so much knowledge that you can find
out about yourself from this. Well, thank you so much
for joining and thank you so people. Where can people
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get the test and get it sent to them? Is
there a great question? Thank you? Yeah? I mean I
think the main is just this pointing career a new website. UM,
I go there almost every day, so we definitely have
prom dot com is the main aspect of how you
can access it and kind of see all the different
operations that are out there. Right, we talked about the
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different Healthless ancestry membership, so there's a lot for everyone.
It's nationwide, right, yes, amazing. Well, thank you all so
much for coming on and um chatting with us about
it and chatting so that everyone could listen. We really
appreciate all for scrubbing in. Thanks for having us. Yeah,
thank you guys. All right, you guys, we are back
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and Mark is back to read emails as I really
struggled last week. Thank god, so you struggle. It was
just like hard to follow you like I was, just
like Tony was like miss something, I miss Mark. This
is really hard. Thank you and thank you Becka. And
here we go. This is from Amanda. I've been I
don't know, offdating a man off because of me who
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is so loving, cares about me, tells me, shows me
all the time, but not in an annoying way. When
we first started dating, I was fresh out of a
three year relationship. That was my excuse, and I wanted
to see what else was out there. He's the best
one I've found for sure. However, I have a masters
in nursing and he works at a brewery, and I
know it shouldn't bother me, but it does, not the
brewery part, but the educational financial part. He pays his
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own bills and can afford enough, but I've never seen
myself being the money maker. Is that a deal breaker?
Or am I throwing away true love over something stupid?
So here's my my knee jerk reaction is if you're
if you found this man that's like everything that you've wanted,
and it's like has all the qualities that you're looking for.
(30:45):
Circumstances change, and to me, it's more it's not like
what he does professionally, but what his dreams and his
ambitions are, because we don't know, like maybe he's a
bartender right now, but one day he wants to own
his own bar. Or some people bartend and do you
know their other worker, are you know, starting their business
on the side, And that's you know, so I feel
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like we don't have quite the information to see what
his dreams and aspirations are. If he doesn't have dreams,
he doesn't have aspirations, and he doesn't really have goals,
and that's bothering you. Then that's always going to bother
you and that's not going to go away. So I
feel like ultimately it will be a deal breaker, but
I feel like on the surface level, it's not. Yeah,
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I think this is just based on who you are,
what you what's important to you, because like for me personally,
I don't think this would be a deal breaker, but
I do think I do think it's valid if it's
a deal breaker, Like, I don't think you're a bad
person for wanting someone who has like career drive and
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like Tanya said, dreams. But granted, we don't know much
about him, but what I'm gathering from her email is
that he's very content working at the bar, and you know,
there's hasn't been much movement or he hasn't shown progress
in that area of like going to the next level.
It is totally personal preference, you're right, yeah, And I
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just think like, if that's something that's important to you,
and you're always gonna make him feel bad about his decision,
because like, for someone to feel content in something, especially
when it's work and they and they're still able to
pull their part and pay their part, then it's not
fair for you to make him feel less than because
that is something that you care about more than he does.
(32:32):
So I think if you can look past it and realize, like, hey,
maybe I do make more, maybe I'm a little more
driven than him, and maybe you know that's how it's
always gonna be. And I love him and he's wonderful.
I can look past it, then I think you stay
in it. But I think that if you're always going
to worry about that, and also it's going to lead
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into you making him feel less than I think maybe
you find someone who's more on the level that you're
looking for. You can't control how you feel, right, I mean,
how many times have you heard from people who are
dating somebody who checks every box. There's just something missing.
There's just it's not tickling your pickle, to use your phrase,
it's not sparking you. For whatever reason. He's hot, he
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he treats me great, he's so friendly, he's so sweet,
but for some reason, it's just not happening. That's okay,
And the sometimes we can't put our finger on that
and what it is. And maybe this is because of
his his ambitions, and maybe it's not. Whatever, it doesn't
matter if it is or not, it's not happening for you,
And so I think, yeah, I think you probably have
to move on no matter what the reason is, it's
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just not happening for you. You know what's interesting though
that I think about because like back in the you know,
olden days, when like it was like the man works,
the woman stays home and raises the kids, and like
that was just the dynamic of what it was like.
Did men back then feel that way about their partner?
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Because it's like, when you have two people in a relationship,
I mean, I feel like odds are more likely that
somebody's going to make more than the other. Whether it's now,
whether it's the man or the woman, or or in
any sort of relationship there's two people and somebody's going
to make more than the other. It's just it is
what it is. So it's like I wonder back in
the day if men felt like why didn't men feel
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that way about their wives? Do you know what I mean? Well,
I think I don't think this answer your question. I
think a lot of men are bothered by women who
make more than them. They find it emasculating. Yeah, but
but like it's so funny because as women, like, we've
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come so far from that now in terms of the
money and the equality in the house and relationships and stuff.
But you know when she says she makes more than him,
it is there is this thing still with a woman
making more than her male partner. Well, it's like what
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we're almost like trained by society to think what it's
supposed to, what the dynamic is supposed to look like
that's changing. So it's like it is, but it's just
like everything that's ingrained in us, you have to unlearn it,
and sometimes it takes a lot of work to do
and sometimes it's like I also think deal breakers are
(35:23):
so personal, like someone else's deal breaker. I might be like, really,
like you're gonna end something with someone because of that,
But I might have a deal breaker that someone else
is like, really, you're going to add something with that.
So I think if if it's constantly bothering you, and
I agree with Tania, like, if this is a this
is one of those things that's the society expectation that's
(35:45):
ingrained in you and that's what you're main focus is on,
then maybe there's a way that you try to work
through that. But I also think there's a lot of
fishing to see and if I don't know, I mean
to own that bar one day, or at least kind
of move off the ladder in the restaurant industry. And
if you sits around playing video games all day, then
I can see why, Oh for sure. I mean I
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would be the same way even if it wasn't like
a bartender. Let's just say, I don't even know. I
don't want to like, you know, I don't want to
stereotype it any job where you're not moving. Yeah, go,
Like I I love the thought of like somebody that
wants to move forward or push more or you know
(36:27):
what I mean, like not be so like I just
I don't think I could ever have a partner that's complacent.
And that's just me personally. That might not somebody else
might not care about that. Somebody else might love the
day to day the same routine and and that that
stability in that consistency. So it's just like, yeah, it's
kind of preference. Well, I think specifically America really focuses
on work, you know, like and I think other countries
(36:49):
like I. I've just learned this through TikTok, where people
like in other countries get like breaks during during the
day and they don't have to like always of work
like we do in America, like our mindset. So I, um,
I think it's just different, different strokes for different Speaking
of TikTok, I found out the other day this is
(37:11):
totally off topic, but that like, um, you know when
you take your dog for a walk and they like
stop to like smell that this and the smell that that,
and kind of like good for them. No, that's like
their TikTok. Like that's they're like social media. That's they're
kind of like thing. Well I saw I don't know
if this is the same thing, but I saw something similar,
and I used to get so annoyed because Phoebe sniffs everything.
(37:35):
Now I take her out and I'm like sniff away. Yeah,
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's like your Instagram time,
like you go, girl. So our advice to her is,
either it's okay, if it's a deal breaker, get out
and it's always gonna get out now, it's not fair
to either of you. And if it's something that you
want to kind of unlearn, if it's a society thing,
(37:57):
then work on that too. But you deserve to be happy,
and so does he all right, you guys, So we're
done for the day. I hope you have a great week,
and I promise you. I am trying to book Hailey Kiyoko,
but she is a busy girl and she really wants
to come on the podcast. I think it'd be really
fun to do like a game with with Robbie and
(38:20):
Me and Haley and you. Yeah, but we need Haley
in studio, like, I don't want her to do like
a zoom Okay, I'll be sure when we book her
that she needs to know it will be in studio interview. Yeah,
because like when she comes, it's gonna be like an
Oprah sit down interview, you know what I mean. Like
it's not gonna be this quick zoom link bye bye situation.
(38:43):
You know what I mean. We really need to get
to know her, Like yeah, alright, Well until then, have
a great week. We love you, and bye bye, and
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that's it. On another Dope show. Did this episode inspire
you to take a closer look at your health history,
your genetic makeup? Who new DNA could reveal so much
about our past while also holding the keys to certain
health insights that may impact our future. I continue to
be inspired by these stories, and I hope you do
as well. Catch you next time. Listen to Spit, an
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original podcast from I Heart Radio and twenty three in
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Have you ever thought about how incredibly complex I spit is.
It may only be water, but just aliva isn't simple.
That remaining one holds incredibly meaningful information that could change everything.
And I'm not just talking about your family treat Hi.
I'm Barrett day Thurston and on this season of Spit
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and I Heart Radio podcast with twenty three and me,
we explore how DNA isn't just about ancestry. It can
also be key to understanding your health, what's good and
welcome that. If you're a bachelor or a pop culture fan,
We've got a very fun episode for you today. If
you're part of Bachelor Nation, then you might be familiar
(00:46):
with Becca Tilly and her podcast Scrubbing, in which she
co hosts with a real life bff, Tanya rat. In
each episode, you can hear these friends fan girling over
their favorite shows, working through boy troubles, and hanging out
with the biggest celebrity guests. Becca and Tanya often discuss
the importance of being true to yourself, being who you
are and being proud of that, and in order to
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make confident choices in your life, it's important to arm
yourself with knowledge before taking action. And that's where twenty
three and Me comes in. Tanya recently took a twenty
three ME test and is excited to receive her reports.
She believes the health information contained in a twenty three
ME test can be empowering, especially when it comes to
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learning more about your health and family history. After discussing
what their producer Mark learned from his own twenty three
and me reports, the ladies sit down with representatives from
twenty three and Me to learn more about what Tanya
can expect to learn from hers. Let's listen in as
Becca and Tanya dive deeper and learn how the information
contained in twenty three test reports can inspire you to
(01:50):
take action in your own life. Scrubbing In with Becca
Tilly and Tanya Wrath and I Heart Radio Punk. Hello everybody,
we are scrubbing in scrub a dub dub um. How's
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it going so good? So? I have been cleaning out
my apartment and I got rid of two trash bags
of just like old spices that are expired and just
kind of like all that kind of stuff, you know. Yeah.
I found my journal that I used when I did
the calling in the one, Yeah, which remind listeners that
(02:36):
what year was that, So I believe I started it
in uh and into nineteen, so this was I don't
even know, a couple of years before the pandemic. And
basically it's a it's a seven week program where every
day you have homework and you do this thing, and
you have like a journal that you write every You
have like one journal that you do all your homework in, right,
(02:58):
and a lot of the homework involves cutting and pasting
and kind of making these like collages. So my journal
has several different collages. But I was looking through and
I found this one and it is so like specific
and crazy because this is before I met Red Star
and I literally like found him, like I brought him
(03:21):
to me, like I called in the one. So for
the listeners described for the listeners who can't hear or
can't see, sorry, um, it's a it's a like a
picture of a little a little kid and a man
and they're like in a lake or something right in
the background, and then there's the words Mr Sunshine across
(03:43):
the lake and then there's a picture of Gabrielle Union
and Dwayne Wade. So I love the relationship between Gabrielle
Union and Dwyane Wade. I've always loved them. I think
they're just like a really good team. Um, they are
true partners and I feel like they treat each other
like king and queen, right, So I love their relationship.
(04:04):
What I didn't realize at the time Gabrielle union. And
they have their own kids as well. But she is
also a step mom. Wow. And Mr Sunshine describes my
boyfriend to a t like he is just like this,
like happy positive man. Mark's grimacing, but it's true. I'm
(04:25):
kind of with Mark, Okay. So he is like a
ball of sunshine. That guy is happy as a clam.
I think you are. I think you are missed Sunshine,
which would then would make Robbie Mr Suntime. I don't think.
I don't think you've ever called him Mr Sunshine, but
I think people refer to you as Sunshine all the time. Okay.
(04:46):
And we have a dog together named Sunny Sunshine. That's
more significant than any of the other things. So with Sunshine,
this is the name is Sunny Sunshine. Her name is
Her name is Sunny Sunshine, Radha. Since when was her
middle name Sunshine? Talk? It is Sunshine? Okay. When you
(05:11):
found imagining Tanya like going to her head house. She's
going to bring this all together, and she's like, Sunny
doesn't have a middle name. It's Sunshine. No, it is
Sunshine because we wanted to name her Sunshine, but we
thought Sunny was cuter. Prove this somewhere anywhere. We might
need a text from Robbie. Robbie's kids who play with
(05:31):
Sunny of the time at least know that her middle
name is Sunny and her last name is rad. Wait. Wait,
please wait, Tanya, please don't text him. Can I text
him and ask what her middle name is? Yeah? Please
don't promise. I'll leave it here and I'll put my
hands up like this, Hi, what is Sunny's middle name?
(05:54):
Or maybe you can say full name. No, that's good,
I'm gonna say middle name because that feels like my me.
I'm like doing something where I'm doing something with Phoebe. Okay,
So anyways, I think it's really cool and I a
lot of those things I think you put on there,
and I think this is really cool about manifesting and
(06:15):
vision boards and stuff. Is that you put it on there,
not actually knowing exactly what it's gonna look like, but
being able to look back and go like, oh my gosh,
who would have known? And I haven't still touched that
journal in years. I like literally found it because I've
been kind of cleaning out and going through stuff in
my kitchen. It was like in my sadly it was
in my junk drawer, but um, I started flipping through
(06:39):
it and so I was like, really kind of taken
aback by that. Well, Um, I can't believe that was
in two thousand eighteen, Like my mind is blown up.
Feels like last year we were talking about calling him
the Wind, but it's a seven week program and I
didn't really I didn't do it every single day for
the seven weeks. I think it took me a little
bit longer. So one time him, you've really put in
(07:02):
the work. You really couldn't. Amongst us, I will have
to say that it is possible that when you do
these vision boards, you are then free to retroactively justify
everything that's on them, and you've done this in the past.
Was on one and then like three years ago he
was a guest on the show and you're like, holy crap,
(07:23):
my vision board came true. I think that's a stretch
because John Legend and my boyfriend went to the same college. Okay, again,
if if you would, if you hadn't met somebody totally
different than Robbie, you would find ways to make that book. Guy,
That's not true. Mark, Listen, sometimes it is easy to
(07:44):
do this. And then I had the vision board with
this cabin that I literally ended up staying in. But
that was more like a direct, Like that really was
a direct. I'm gonna put my hands on just to
show you, guys, one more photo. I'm not texting him,
I swear I already got a respond to this, so
funny hold on. And so there's also this picture that
(08:05):
I put of this couple kissing on a bed and
the words right above it say in the right love,
we will discover new love for ourselves. And he's done
that for me. Okay, but I think this is what
Mark saying that anyone that was not so specific get
thank you. But I I think that the key here
is that you manifested a love that you cherished and
(08:30):
who loved you, and it was what you were looking
for and you found that. And I think that's the
main focus of finding this journal is not so much
the specifics, but more about you calling in the one. Guys,
it was pretty exciting for me. Okay, but if you
had met a different guy, totally different, who doesn't have kids,
(08:51):
and like, look at this. Look he's right there with
a little boy. He was with his nephew last weekend,
and he's so great with kids. I totally see how
this comes together. And Mr Sunshine on our first date,
he had to get his sunglasses out of the glove
comparment because the sun was in his eyes so brightly.
I mean, you, guys, how perfect is this? Okay explained
the Dwyanne Wade and Gabrielle Union connection. I still can't
(09:12):
explain that with Robbie. Oh my gosh, you just don't
get it. Mark, you just fell in fact that she
is a step mom. You would have found a way
you have said. Oh my god, you guys, he loves
basketball and I put Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union on
my vision bar I can't believe it. Guess what, I
didn't even know he was an athlete. And by the way,
Robbie does love basketball. There's another tie in there. It
(09:34):
is what team did he play for? I'm not sure.
I don't like basketball. Okay, wait, you guys, this mess,
this thread is the funniest thing. So I just said, Hi,
what is Sunny's middle name? And he says l L
hi dot dot dot Not sure. She has many middle names,
(09:55):
not sure if anything official. I think it's Randy Moss
Sonny Randy Moss, yeah, rad, but it has changed several times.
So I said, like the dead EMERGI and he goes.
I just asked the kids. They also said Randy Moss,
Randy Moss. There you go. That is not that is
not that is not her official middle name. He said it.
(10:18):
He said what is Tanya saying? And I said Sunshine
and he goes, l O L. I mean that has
been tossed around. No, Randy Moss, shiner. I'm calling her
Sonny Randy Moss from now on, you guys. There's no
official birth certificate for a dog, so there's not like
(10:39):
Tanya Tanya. This is this is actually important. Randy Moss
is an professional athlete, as is Dwayne Way. Bring it on, Becca,
bring it on. I'm telling you, I'm I'm trying to
(10:59):
bring out your bachelor journals and see what you manifested.
I literally have life in general organized my place so
well that I have no idea where it is, but
I will locate it and find because I do want
to read some of those excerpts because they're pretty funny.
But um, yeah, we'll just stick with with yours today.
But when you said that, I was immediately like, I
(11:20):
need to find the journal, and then I was like,
where would that be. It's in a nicely labeled ben somewhere.
I do know that. I'm just so happy I didn't
throw in my journal. My gosh, I mean, that is
some gold right there. I would never think you'd throw
away your journal. Like that feels so off Brandford. I
gave my book, My Calling in the One Book to
somebody else, Well, that makes sense, like you're passing it on,
(11:44):
but like a journal feels like so I imagine your
your you know, excerpts are very um in depth and
something that you want to keep for your wedding one day. Honestly,
they're kind of embarrassing. No, I I'm so shocked at
the way I wrote as a twenty six year old, Like,
(12:04):
that's what talked to me the most. Reading the Bachelor Journal,
I was like, wait, sounded like a high school or two.
That's how mine sound, like, I'm like I hope that
and like my fear is that, like yeah, yeah, I'm
with you there. Um. Today we're actually going to be
(12:26):
talking about twenty three and me and it's kind of
like just switching gear as a tad, you know, like
from manifestation to like actual DNA yes, um, And we're
going to be talking about like kind of how important
it is to know your background for you know, multiple reasons.
(12:46):
But Tanya sent hers in, you haven't gotten your results
right now. I haven't. But we're going to kind of
talk through like what are you're like, what are you
hoping for from the results and what are you looking for?
Are you nervous about anything? You expecting anything? Are you
nervous about anything? I don't know. Doesn't it tell you
like health stuff? It's yeah's health stuff. And I'm like
(13:08):
pretty sure that I'm a hundred percent serbian because it's
like both my parents and their parents are and their
parents are, so I feel like I'm hand to handle
p What if you were what what would you be
if you were? I don't know, but then I would
look at my grandparents differently. What if you had something
(13:29):
totally different? Would that totally shake you up? It would
be kind of interesting. Well, that's such everything. I've heard
so many crazy stories about it, of like people thinking
one thing their whole life and then just innocently doing
this test and getting the results and being like, but
there's a lot of health befits to like you can
(13:50):
kind of see if you're predisposed, predisposed, pre preconditioned thinn
don't second pre disposed to certain like illnesses and ailments
and diabetes and things like that. So there's a lot
of also health benefits as well. Mark, you did it right,
I did it. I'm looking at my ancestry results right now.
(14:11):
I'm nine point seven percent European, mostly Northwestern European, about
a quarter of Ashca Nazi Jewish. I'm primarily from Norway, Sweden, Germany, England, Ireland,
which none of that is terribly surprising, but it's still
fun to look at, fun to check out, and then yes,
you do the health stuff on here, nothing alarming, that
was nice. It's really fun to dig into. Plus they
(14:33):
have all kinds of like i don't know what you
call them, like cute little quirks about you, like you know, um,
you are more disposed to like um butterflies, but no,
more like foods more like sto as opposed to sweet foods,
or like asparagus really makes your piece smell like stuff
like that, I'm not I'm not kidding. That was actually
in the But doesn't asparagus make everybody's piece smell? Can
(14:53):
they tell us how? I've never I've never had that
with asparagus, Like I'm never like, oh my god, like
people described, I've never experienced that. I'd like to smell
you your p after you have asparagus. Okay, we'll set
that up. Okay, we'll have to do that on another day.
As Asparagus order detection likely can smell the asparagus order
(15:18):
in your urine, and I can't. They nailed that one.
Kind of vague no, kind of but they say they
say you're more likely or not as likely, like, for example,
in caase bitterness, you're likely to have a cleft chin.
I do, You're likely to have to tach your lobes.
I do? You know that sort of thing? Wow? All right,
so yeah, we're gonna get back into this with reps
(15:41):
from twenty three and me, so we'll be right back
with them. All right, you guys, so we're bad. Can
we have a Lisa and Stacy here from twenty three
(16:02):
and me, and they're here to answer all of our
questions that we have about the twenty three in the process,
so please welcome them in to the scrubbing in oh R.
So I want you to kind of talk about you know,
when you when people here twenty three and me, they
think that it's like just ancestry they're going to see
(16:24):
like where they came from. But there's so much more
to it than that, right, Yes, I'll take this on UM.
So there is a whole world of health information within
twenty three and me that is super exciting. I'm a
genetic counselor, so my background is all about genetics and
thinking through health UM. Overall our Healthless Ancestry service, there's
(16:45):
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neural wellness, exercise, weight, diet, all sorts of things UM.
And then there's even the Way Through Plus membership that
(17:06):
adds another twenty plus reports and ongoing features throughout the year,
So a lot of health information. I have a question
about it, like, when you get information about health, is
it kind of is it specific like percentages or what
does that look like for people when they get it?
Is it just like this is something you're likely to
maybe uh experience, or how does it work? So it
(17:31):
can vary. So there's two different ways of thinking about
genetics and your health. So one is you may have
like one or two genetic variants, and those are just
like the DNA differences between people, we just call those
genetic variants. Um, you may have one or two that
like really might impact a certain condition. Um, where you
(17:52):
if you have that variant, your your chances of developing
that condition, you know, maybe like three times or four
times higher than the average person. And so in those conditions,
we might tell you you have this genetic variant. Here
is how it it potentially impacts your health. How many
people with that variant go on to develop that condition? Um.
There's a whole another side of this, which is conditions
(18:14):
that you might be more familiar with, like type two diabetes,
migrating things like that, where there's not just one smoking gun,
there's not just one or two genetic variants, but it
might be thousands or tens of thousands of genetic variants
that all have this like tiny little effect. And what
we do then is we add all that up to
sort of give you this overall predisposition where we tell
(18:34):
you might be at increased likelihood and in those cases
then we can give you like a percent chance, right,
how many people like you? What percentage of people like
you actually have that condition? And so you can kind
of get that like, um exact number on it for yourself. Yeah,
that's really helpful. Have you all had I mean, I'm
sure there's so many stories of people who maybe never
(18:55):
even considered something specific about their health being a chance
for them, and then they do this test and get
it back and get the results, and maybe they go
in for a check up and catch something that they
wouldn't have caught sooner had they not seen that possibility.
I don't know if I'm worrying this right, but have
you all had any stories like that or seen anything
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they caught something early. We do. We actually get a
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think come most of mind that come up a lot
are associated with brc UM. So this is if you
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have a variant, it greatly increases your chance for breast
and a varian cancer and women there's also other certain
cancers as well, and it cannot big effect for meals too. UM.
And this is something that a lot of people have
no idea they have these variants. We only test for
a selectree and we're not diagnosing cancer right there. Stuffining
limitations testing right, UM. But if you have this very
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and UM, it's really important to get it confirmed right
You need to get confirmatory testing. But it is such
that you there's a lot of different actions that you
can take. The greatly reduced your risk for cancer because
we're talking about very high numbers here, UM. And the
very tests for a really common people that have Oscepanazi
Jewish ancestry to one in forty. So so many people
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don't know that. And ultimately we have these amazing stories
of women who have found out um, some were adopted
and had no idea they had Osponazey Jewish ancestry. UM.
Somewhere conceived via sperm donor and had no idea, right,
or some knew that had Ashtonaze Jewish ancestry, but had
no idea that there were these you know, increased likelihood
that they could have these variants. Um. And so just
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incredible stories of the actions people are able to take
and this empowerment. Um. So we've seen it from you know,
the v r A type two diabetes. We get a
lot of stories that people saying, this makes me realize
I need to take action. Right, there's some things that
I can do just living that healthy lifestyle that can
really have a big impact on reducing your chances. So
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we get a lot of these stories. Um. It's one
of my favorite parts of what I do because I
get to hear these stories and so you really get
that feeling of Okay, it's there's there's a reason of
what we're doing behind this, Right, we're actually impacting people
live And I know the test is is I did it?
So it's easy, Like you get the test and you
fill up a tube to like a certain line with
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like your spits you just like spit in it or whatever,
but is there like it Let's just say you didn't
spit to the line or if there is like would
you send it back to somebody else, like to somebody
and say like do it again or like does that
ever happen? Yeah, So we have some quality control measures.
So when you send that too off to the lab,
they're going to check to make sure that we can
you know, get enough DNA so you know your your spit. Basically,
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what we're looking at is like the cheek cells that
sort of come along for the ride in your spit.
So sometimes there's not enough cells in there, so we
can't get enough DNA out, so the lab will do
those like sort of quality controls, or there's not enough
spit or you know that it doesn't run really and
so if any of that happens, that sort of gets
kicked back and generally, well said a replacement kit so
you can give it a second try, um, you know,
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to to to get that full experience. We do whatever
we can. I was happy that it was I was
happy that it was spit because I don't know why
I thought DNA testing was like blood or like, you know,
so I was like, I don't know what you're gonna say,
is just like I'm not I don't know about pricky,
like sending the blood and then they're like, no, no,
just spin. I was like, oh, great, three it is.
(22:33):
It's a lot of spit. But yes, it's a way
better collecting than than blood in my opinion, way easier,
way less dramatic. Um. Tanya and I were talking about
so Tanya, both of her parents are Serbian and her
their parents are Serbian, and she was like, I feel
like I would be a Serbian and I was. I
was saying, like, what if your results came back and
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it was totally different than what you expected. Do you
see a lot of those stories And I'm assuming people
who maybe aren't familiar if they were adopted and weren't familiar,
you know, with biological parents. But um, I imagine that
can be kind of overwhelming for people sometimes to get
these results and get answers that maybe they didn't even
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realize they had questions about. Yeah, I think what the
ancestry side. Um, you know, one thing to always keep
in mind is what we're good looking at is like
what your DNA says, and that's not the same as
like culture and the like how you grew up and
all of that, right, and so a lot of times
you know, political borders change and you know, maybe the
border has has shifted, and so you're getting a result
(23:37):
of saying like, hey, I'm from this other place, but
I know my family is you know, is from here.
And sometimes the DNA doesn't reflect what we know that
happened happened in history. So, um, you know, it's it's
a start. The ancestry is sort of a start of
a journey to like look into maybe hey, maybe your
family moved and it was you know, my great great
great grandparents that we didn't know about came from somewhere else.
(23:58):
So that sometimes what happens with those results. Um, but
I think what's interesting is hearing people talk about like, oh,
it was exactly what I like thought I was and
it was great, or it was exactly what I thought
it was and I wish I had found something different.
So either way, for the extended one that you were
saying like that, the um, what were you saying earlier
that there was like a second layer of it that
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you can kind of follow up and get more information. Plus, yeah,
can you get like food allergies with that or is
that totally different? So we don't have food allergies right now?
We do have a couple things that touch on food. UM.
So we have like lactose intolerance or predisposition to things
like celiac disease, but not specific food allergies. UM. Foods
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a little tough because it's um both you know you
how you react, but you know we have we're all
we all have this gut microbiome UM. And so it's
also how like all your little colonizers are reacting to
the food you eat as well. So it's a little
tough to do food allergies with just with just your genetics.
We do have to other allergies though, like dog and
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cat allergies, which is really interesting. Yes, thank you, Stacy.
I always wonder if maybe I'm like mildly allergic to dogs,
like my dog sitting right here. I would I don't,
I would never care, like I would never do anything
about it, but I've always wondered that and with cats.
But I think I think even just the basic of
something like celiac disease or lactose intolerant is really helpful
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for people because I don't think a lot of people
realize how much if it's affecting your body, how much
it affects like everything. It can affect your mental health,
Like the gut is so powerful. Let me tell you,
I never officially been told that I'm lactose intolerant, but
like the way that dairy makes me feel, I'm like
diagnosed myself. So I'm curious to see what my twenty
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three in me says about my lactose tolerance. Yeah. Yeah,
and at least you might be able to help me
out here. But lactose intolerance is really interesting me because actually,
you know, the way human I've eolution was everyone was
lacked of intolerant, and there was actually a genetic variant
that occurred that made it so that you could actually
stay lack of toler So it's much more likely for
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people to actually be lacked of intolerant in a lot
of the world. So um, it's something a lot of
people don't think about the Really it's very common. So uh,
we're actually looking at a very lactive tolerant that you know,
it's something that came about later on in evolution. That's
really cool. And I also think, like I was, I
really like that people can get the results and they
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don't have to be a scientists store a doctor to
read them and understand them because sometimes I mean when
you get your labs done at the doctor and they're
like if we sing you the labs and you look
at it and you're like, um, no idea. And so
I think um Mark was reading his earlier and talking.
He was reading it as he was, you know, talking
(26:54):
to us about it, and it was so just like straightforward.
There was no moment of me like what in the
heck does that mean? Like it's all very yeah, So
I wanted to acknowledge that, and like how important was
that for you all? Because people are doing these at
home tests and making it really accessible and easy to
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get the results without feeling confused. I guess, yeah, that's
that's top of mind as we're creating these reports, is right.
We're always thinking about not just how can we make it,
you know, easy for someone to understand, but also like
who is the person that's going to be receiving this result,
and like really thinking about what what do they need
when they're receiving these different results. You know, some are
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super fun and friendly and some are more serious and
and really thinking through and keeping that person in mind
is like as a core part of how we do
our work. Yeah, I love that part about it. Um.
Is there anything else that we didn't touch on that
you would want people to know about twenty three me
that maybe haven't done it or haven't heard about it,
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or this is their first time hearing about it. You know.
I think, you know, we really feel that knowledge is empowerment, right, Um.
But it is something that you know, you can't undo knowing.
And there's a lot of things that people find you
touched upon this before, things that you never thought about
that you discover about yourself. And so I always say
the genetic counselor inside of me just as really, you know,
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think about it, but go into it with a very
open mind. We have all these education tutorials, take a
look at, um, all the information that's out there. Um.
But I really feel very strongly that knowledge is power
and there is so much knowledge that you can find
out about yourself from this. Well, thank you so much
for joining and thank you so people. Where can people
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get the test and get it sent to them? Is
there a great question? Thank you? Yeah? I mean I
think the main is just this pointing career a new website. UM,
I go there almost every day, so we definitely have
prom dot com is the main aspect of how you
can access it and kind of see all the different
operations that are out there. Right, we talked about the
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different Healthless ancestry membership, so there's a lot for everyone.
It's nationwide, right, yes, amazing. Well, thank you all so
much for coming on and um chatting with us about
it and chatting so that everyone could listen. We really
appreciate all for scrubbing in. Thanks for having us. Yeah,
thank you guys. All right, you guys, we are back
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and Mark is back to read emails as I really
struggled last week. Thank god, so you struggle. It was
just like hard to follow you like I was, just
like Tony was like miss something, I miss Mark. This
is really hard. Thank you and thank you Becka. And
here we go. This is from Amanda. I've been I
don't know, offdating a man off because of me who
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is so loving, cares about me, tells me, shows me
all the time, but not in an annoying way. When
we first started dating, I was fresh out of a
three year relationship. That was my excuse, and I wanted
to see what else was out there. He's the best
one I've found for sure. However, I have a masters
in nursing and he works at a brewery, and I
know it shouldn't bother me, but it does, not the
brewery part, but the educational financial part. He pays his
(30:23):
own bills and can afford enough, but I've never seen
myself being the money maker. Is that a deal breaker?
Or am I throwing away true love over something stupid?
So here's my my knee jerk reaction is if you're
if you found this man that's like everything that you've wanted,
and it's like has all the qualities that you're looking for.
(30:45):
Circumstances change, and to me, it's more it's not like
what he does professionally, but what his dreams and his
ambitions are, because we don't know, like maybe he's a
bartender right now, but one day he wants to own
his own bar. Or some people bartend and do you
know their other worker, are you know, starting their business
on the side, And that's you know, so I feel
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like we don't have quite the information to see what
his dreams and aspirations are. If he doesn't have dreams,
he doesn't have aspirations, and he doesn't really have goals,
and that's bothering you. Then that's always going to bother
you and that's not going to go away. So I
feel like ultimately it will be a deal breaker, but
I feel like on the surface level, it's not. Yeah,
(31:27):
I think this is just based on who you are,
what you what's important to you, because like for me personally,
I don't think this would be a deal breaker, but
I do think I do think it's valid if it's
a deal breaker, Like, I don't think you're a bad
person for wanting someone who has like career drive and
(31:47):
like Tanya said, dreams. But granted, we don't know much
about him, but what I'm gathering from her email is
that he's very content working at the bar, and you know,
there's hasn't been much movement or he hasn't shown progress
in that area of like going to the next level.
It is totally personal preference, you're right, yeah, And I
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just think like, if that's something that's important to you,
and you're always gonna make him feel bad about his decision,
because like, for someone to feel content in something, especially
when it's work and they and they're still able to
pull their part and pay their part, then it's not
fair for you to make him feel less than because
that is something that you care about more than he does.
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So I think if you can look past it and realize, like, hey,
maybe I do make more, maybe I'm a little more
driven than him, and maybe you know that's how it's
always gonna be. And I love him and he's wonderful.
I can look past it, then I think you stay
in it. But I think that if you're always going
to worry about that, and also it's going to lead
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into you making him feel less than I think maybe
you find someone who's more on the level that you're
looking for. You can't control how you feel, right, I mean,
how many times have you heard from people who are
dating somebody who checks every box. There's just something missing.
There's just it's not tickling your pickle, to use your phrase,
it's not sparking you. For whatever reason. He's hot, he
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he treats me great, he's so friendly, he's so sweet,
but for some reason, it's just not happening. That's okay,
And the sometimes we can't put our finger on that
and what it is. And maybe this is because of
his his ambitions, and maybe it's not. Whatever, it doesn't
matter if it is or not, it's not happening for you,
And so I think, yeah, I think you probably have
to move on no matter what the reason is, it's
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just not happening for you. You know what's interesting though
that I think about because like back in the you know,
olden days, when like it was like the man works,
the woman stays home and raises the kids, and like
that was just the dynamic of what it was like.
Did men back then feel that way about their partner?
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Because it's like, when you have two people in a relationship,
I mean, I feel like odds are more likely that
somebody's going to make more than the other. Whether it's now,
whether it's the man or the woman, or or in
any sort of relationship there's two people and somebody's going
to make more than the other. It's just it is
what it is. So it's like I wonder back in
the day if men felt like why didn't men feel
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that way about their wives? Do you know what I mean? Well,
I think I don't think this answer your question. I
think a lot of men are bothered by women who
make more than them. They find it emasculating. Yeah, but
but like it's so funny because as women, like, we've
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come so far from that now in terms of the
money and the equality in the house and relationships and stuff.
But you know when she says she makes more than him,
it is there is this thing still with a woman
making more than her male partner. Well, it's like what
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we're almost like trained by society to think what it's
supposed to, what the dynamic is supposed to look like
that's changing. So it's like it is, but it's just
like everything that's ingrained in us, you have to unlearn it,
and sometimes it takes a lot of work to do
and sometimes it's like I also think deal breakers are
(35:23):
so personal, like someone else's deal breaker. I might be like, really,
like you're gonna end something with someone because of that,
But I might have a deal breaker that someone else
is like, really, you're going to add something with that.
So I think if if it's constantly bothering you, and
I agree with Tania, like, if this is a this
is one of those things that's the society expectation that's
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ingrained in you and that's what you're main focus is on,
then maybe there's a way that you try to work
through that. But I also think there's a lot of
fishing to see and if I don't know, I mean
to own that bar one day, or at least kind
of move off the ladder in the restaurant industry. And
if you sits around playing video games all day, then
I can see why, Oh for sure. I mean I
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would be the same way even if it wasn't like
a bartender. Let's just say, I don't even know. I
don't want to like, you know, I don't want to
stereotype it any job where you're not moving. Yeah, go,
Like I I love the thought of like somebody that
wants to move forward or push more or you know
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what I mean, like not be so like I just
I don't think I could ever have a partner that's complacent.
And that's just me personally. That might not somebody else
might not care about that. Somebody else might love the
day to day the same routine and and that that
stability in that consistency. So it's just like, yeah, it's
kind of preference. Well, I think specifically America really focuses
on work, you know, like and I think other countries
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like I. I've just learned this through TikTok, where people
like in other countries get like breaks during during the
day and they don't have to like always of work
like we do in America, like our mindset. So I, um,
I think it's just different, different strokes for different Speaking
of TikTok, I found out the other day this is
(37:11):
totally off topic, but that like, um, you know when
you take your dog for a walk and they like
stop to like smell that this and the smell that that,
and kind of like good for them. No, that's like
their TikTok. Like that's they're like social media. That's they're
kind of like thing. Well I saw I don't know
if this is the same thing, but I saw something similar,
and I used to get so annoyed because Phoebe sniffs everything.
(37:35):
Now I take her out and I'm like sniff away. Yeah,
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's like your Instagram time,
like you go, girl. So our advice to her is,
either it's okay, if it's a deal breaker, get out
and it's always gonna get out now, it's not fair
to either of you. And if it's something that you
want to kind of unlearn, if it's a society thing,
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then work on that too. But you deserve to be happy,
and so does he all right, you guys, So we're
done for the day. I hope you have a great week,
and I promise you. I am trying to book Hailey Kiyoko,
but she is a busy girl and she really wants
to come on the podcast. I think it'd be really
fun to do like a game with with Robbie and
(38:20):
Me and Haley and you. Yeah, but we need Haley
in studio, like, I don't want her to do like
a zoom Okay, I'll be sure when we book her
that she needs to know it will be in studio interview. Yeah,
because like when she comes, it's gonna be like an
Oprah sit down interview, you know what I mean. Like
it's not gonna be this quick zoom link bye bye situation.
(38:43):
You know what I mean. We really need to get
to know her, Like yeah, alright, Well until then, have
a great week. We love you, and bye bye, and
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that's it. On another Dope show. Did this episode inspire
you to take a closer look at your health history,
your genetic makeup? Who new DNA could reveal so much
about our past while also holding the keys to certain
health insights that may impact our future. I continue to
be inspired by these stories, and I hope you do
as well. Catch you next time. Listen to Spit, an
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