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March 31, 2023 94 mins

Oh honey, we have a very special guest co-host today, Trixie Mattel! She is filling in for Alec while he’s literally on a boat. Trixie tells us what she’s up to, what era she’s in, and her opinions on anti-drag laws before diving into episode 14. Loosey LaDuca is also here to chat with Loni about her Joan Rivers impersonation and the success of “Let Loose”. This week, the queens shot for the stars in the music video for Ru’s song “Blame It On The Edit” and the final four then serve drag excellence one last time on the main stage. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome back to another episode of
Squirrel Friends, the official RuPaul's Drag Race podcast. Commie Girl
Lonnie Love. This week, baby Boo Alec is out. He
is booked, blessed and on a boat telling jokes. If
you go on his Instagram you will see all him
in the water and everything. He's having a good time
and he deserves it. But do not worry Squirrel Friends,

(00:28):
because I have got a very special co host this episode.
She is a big, beautiful blond queen. You all know.
She's an actor, a singer, songwriter, comedian, host, DJ Bakeup,
Mogul motel owner and I really love her. She's the
winner of All Stars season three. Just to name a

(00:48):
few things. Please give a warm welcome to Trixie Mattel
Trick see yes, yes, so much for joining me. Have
you been I'm so good? This is like the highlight
of my week. I you know, I did the pit
stop when you were on it like almost every challenge

(01:09):
and you're just we're one of my favorite judges. You
are so warm, but you don't let these bitches get
away with anything. And that's like the balance right exactly exactly,
And what else have you been up to, because I mean,
you've just been doing so much and you've been doing
so well with drag Race. What's going on with you? Well,
I've just you know, more like Barbie than you think,

(01:31):
and that I have five hundred jobs, so you know,
I'm working at my cosmetics company, the motel, running my
bar in Milwaukee, on tour with Katya. I'm about to
go on this DJ tour for my party called Solid
Pink Disco, and I'm still doing my podcast Balled in
the Beautiful season eight of uh Netflix. I like to
watch Yeah once in a while. I sit home and

(01:54):
cook and pick my nose once in a while. But
you're also doing something very important. I saw an article
because right now we're going through a lot with LGBTQ
rights and trans rights. Can you talk to the squirrel
friends a little bit about what you're doing. Yeah, So,
I mean, let's just be honest when we talk about
bills that are created to restrict the art of drag. Yes,

(02:17):
we're talking about a trojan horse that's used to marginalize, criminalize,
and attack literally women in pants and men in dresses,
or any expression of transness, any expression of any gender
like the famous drag queens are getting involved, but let's
be honest, we're not the ones who are in the

(02:37):
most danger. This is going to affect local drag queens,
normal trans people, like just people who aren't even in
the public, people who are just not even entertainers. So
the drag queens, you know, me, Bob Alaska, everybody's getting
involved because it's so sick and insidious. I mean, Katy
and I played a sold out show in Florida two

(02:58):
weeks ago, and right for the show, we were told that,
you know, three thousand people sold out house. They weren't
allowed to have alcohol because the governor had called and
said that if the venue serves alcohol, they're going to
take their liquor license. And I know from the motel
and my bar, you lose your liquor license, you're that's it. Cooked. Yeah,
so obviously is a drag queen. I'm offended by all

(03:18):
of this, but I think what all of us, semi
notable drag queens. The reason we're getting involved is because
we care about trans people. People express their gender. I mean,
the gentleman on my tour who does merch, he's heterosexual,
cysts male, he wears dresses, I mean, he could be
criminalized for wearing a sun dress, do you know what

(03:41):
I mean? Ridiculous? If he could be really aggreate, he
could go see a fast in the Furious movie straight
people love that, but he could wear a dress, and
like you know, and I think in some of these
bills they're saying the second offense is a felony. I mean,
could you imagine. I just could not imagine you all
are having like some type of telethon you and Bob
in Alaska. Is that what's happening to bring you? We're

(04:02):
basically all putting together individual performances that will play like
a telethon. So we're going to be all providing little
vignettes that all go together. Because it's really sick. I mean,
you know, drag has given me everything. It's given me
this computer, I'm talking to you on this house I
live in, and it makes me really sick. Fifteen years

(04:22):
into drag, I would think things like this would be
in the past. I would have never believed exactly I
would do drag for fifteen years and then experience something
like this. It's so bizarre, But you know, it's also
shows how little people know about us because like they don't.
And that's the reason why we have to keep pushing.

(04:44):
You know, this is a Rue Paul's Season fifteen and
Squirrel friends. We're going to get to the episode, but
I'm so happy that you came on because we have
been using voices. We have been wanting to amplify the
fact that it's a constitutional right for every American to
be able to express themselves the way they want and

(05:07):
live the lives that they want. And what I always
love about Rue Paul and drag Race in all of
the Queens is that you guys live life fearlessly. So
I just wanted to say thank you for using your
platform to help fight these stupid policies and these stupid laws,
but also to educate the country. And we just have

(05:28):
to keep pushing, and we have to be aware. And
this is the thing Ruepaul since the beginning has been
saying vote. This is why we remember at the end
of the episodes, it would be like, you know, your
vote matters, your vote counts. This is why because now
even fifteen seasons later, we're fighting laws and policies that
are discriminatory against our brothers and sisters in the LGBTQ

(05:51):
plus community, so totally. I mean, you know, I love
Jane Fonda, and I was like, my first instinct was
I'm going to fly to Nashville and get arrested like this.
If we're gonna show how stupid these laws are, we
need to force them to. I was like, welly should
I should go get a And then I was like, well,
that's my privilege, speaking as a white, well semi well

(06:12):
off mail to go get arrested for fun. Like I
was like, well, I shouldn't exactly flaunt that I can
play around with getting arrested, but right right, I was
just it makes me really sick. And of course I
think about the drag industry, but like I said, I
really worry for normal people who are not entertainers, who
someone is going to see them at the grocery store

(06:33):
and scream drag. That's drag, called the police. And this
normal person stepping out to buy Cohita cheese and you
know a gallon of milk is going to get what
a misdemeanor? Yeah, because they keep fighting this and this
is why we do this. You know, we call it
squirrel friends. We fight, but we also celebrate this art

(06:54):
of drag and this episode. We're gonna go over season fifteen,
episode sold fourteen and it's getting close because we're at
our top four. So if you haven't seen the episode,
please go watch the episode because we're going to give
out spoilers today. We're gonna chat about the Ti chats.

(07:15):
I love those TikTok Can you say that three times?
Trixie Chick girl, No, I can't. I will say I
think it's great that they can use the word TikTok
and they don't have to go like small one calorie
breath min you know, I love it. I love it.
We're also going to watch the top four queens blame
it on the edit. We're gonna be doing a fabulous video,

(07:37):
and we're gonna see drag Excellence on the Runway one
last time this season, and of course we're gonna talk
about the lips sing. We're also gonna be talking with
Lucy Laeduca later in the episode, so don't miss that.
And it's all with my special guest co host, Trixie
but Teil. But for right now, squirrel friends, it's time
for fifteen seconds to say. This is where Alec and

(07:58):
I have fifteen seconds to race and say all of
our most important thoughts and takes on a topic given
to us by our fabulous producers with alec out, Trixie,
you get to do it. We're gonna put that mouth
to the test, honey, and see how fast you can talk. Okay.
We know the Queens this season love to be in
an era. So today's prompt is what era are you

(08:20):
currently in? Tell us about it, Trixie, you're up for it. Okay, ready,
set set. I'm in my Lonnie of Love era. I'm
trying to get Emmy's I'm trying to get awards. I'm
trying to be an activist. I'm trying to look beautiful
in and out of glam I'm trying to be an
incredible host for a show. I'm trying to be glamorous.

(08:43):
Two seconds, it'd be great. I thought you would like
that answer. I love that. Thank you. Okay, Okay, it's
my turn, so you say, ready set say Lonnie, Okay,
ready set say. I'm in my pitching era. I'm pitching
news shows. I'm trying to be creative. Um, I want
to zent love and light and so this is the

(09:03):
air where I just let my creativity sprout and I'm
doing it with Trixie Mattel. Honey, I didn't count on
my fingers, but I think that was probably ten. Oh
that was good though, for your first time. That was good.
How are you feeling so far? Have you even been watching?
I know you're so busy. Let's address the elephant in

(09:23):
the room. Christie Mattel doesn't even have cable, Okay, Trixie Mattel,
Trixie Mattel. You know when I watch Netflix, when Netflix
gives me money to go watch Netflix, Like, I'm just
not a TV watcher. So everybody at home might say,
shut up, bitch, what do you have to say about
the season of Drag Race? But you know my partner
watches it, so I caught the performance during the rusical.

(09:46):
You know I catch things, okay, But also I've been there.
Also I know some of these people. Also, I've judged
drag Queens now, so and you did watch this episode.
So we're gonna talk about that. But if you want
us to say something for fifteen seconds, DM or messengers
your ideas at Alec Mappa on Instagram or at comic

(10:09):
Lonnie Love on Instagram and at Lonnie Love on Twitter. Okay,
we're gonna get right into this episode. First of all,
we had to say goodbye to Lucy Leduca last week. Now,
if you haven't been following a long trick, see, Lucy
Leduca was kind of like our whiner of the whole season,
and they made that's so clear. Even in this episode,

(10:31):
I feel like I understood who who Lucy was because
everyone was like that negative bitch is gone, you know
what I mean, Or it seemed like she was the
other compared to Mistress. She was the other kind of
shit starter. Uh huh yeah yeah yeah. And then this
last episode, she actually had won the challenge, so she

(10:52):
was able to actually pick like for the Maxi Challenge.
She was able to pair up the remaining queens and
so her strategy because her and Lux Noir London never
really get along, she tried to give Lux the worst
person there were teachers, and so she paired Lux Noir

(11:13):
with a teacher who was totally opposite of her and
things like that, thinking that that will put her to
the bottom. Well it did, but it also put Lucy
to the bottom as well, and so they both ended
up lip sinking and Lux one over Lucy. So Lucy's
strategy didn't help it didn't win, it didn't work out. Well.
You know, it's I'll say this too, putting people in

(11:36):
drag to make them look like you who always flops
at this is young, naturally beautiful, fem skinny girls because
it's not like every day I have to turn Walter
White into Malibu Barbie. Do you know what I mean?
I know how much makeup I have to put on.

(11:57):
And so if you're one of these girls who naturally
just you know, you're not gonna slay that makeup work
because you don't understand putting a trowel over brick and
he ain't Delvie, I got it. These cheeks and the
tape I have to use. I am learning so much.
It's a small world Marrionette business. Yes, I'm just I

(12:20):
just learned about that, Trixie. I'm learning all of the
secrets from my queens, and I'm like, it worked. Hey,
if it works and it makes you look good, yeah,
but you are absolutely correct if you are naturally thin beautiful,
it's really hard. So that was it was a really
really good challenge. But also Lux feels that Lucy was
playing a dirty game and karma got to her, which

(12:42):
it probably did a Nietra also now she has won
three Maxi Challenges and it's tied with Sasha, who we love,
and so now it's just the top four. The queens
are ready. Sasha is feeling the heat though she's in
the top four. Sasha has been killing it for all
of the episodes, Trixie, but she's now like feeling some pressure,

(13:05):
you know. I mean you being part of you know,
a season in two seasons and when you were, especially
during All Stars, were you feeling a pressure of like, Okay,
these bitches are gonna come at me. Yeah. One of
the things they don't talk about much on Drag Race
is if you're coming in and no one knows who
you are, you have nothing to prove. If you're a Sasha,

(13:29):
everybody in the room's like, oh, that's Sasha Kobe. So
it's actually a little harder because you kind of lack
the element of surprise because everyone knows what you can
do right right, And on top of that, you have
to deal with your own expectations you put on yourself.
If you're Sasha, you have an entire body of work.
We're all the most famous drags in the world already
know and love you and you have to live up

(13:49):
to that internal like, bitch, it better be a ten
because you've done it, you know you can do it.
Not to mention, Sasha has resources. Some of the other
girls might not have connections for cost stems and hair.
It's like an All Stars when they announce an All
Stars cast. There's the people that people say, oh, I'm
excited for her because I didn't see enough of her, right,

(14:09):
and then you have all this opportunity. But then if
you're someone who has a big career, it's like, well, there,
it's theirs to lose. But that's actually not helpful. It's
not helpful to have pressure. Oh you know, I don't
think it is. No, that's what she's feeling right now.
And so that's what we're starting this episode with. RuPaul
comes into the workroom. The four remaining we call them

(14:31):
are Fantastic four. They come in. RuPaul comes in with
a suit. Is like one of the final episodes. So
you know, because we've had like palm springs through this
season where he's been wearing these like sweaters and you know,
things like that, but this Paul's getting wild. Yeah, it's
a beautiful black with white pinstripe suit thick pin stripes,

(14:54):
that's small with an actual burgundy shirt collar and he
looks nice. So this is this, this is what we're
about to start. But you know what we're doing great.
We're gonna take a quick little break and come right
back with Trixie Mattell and we're gonna talk about the
Maxi Challenge. And we're back when my special guest co

(15:19):
host Trixie Mattel, Now this is the Maxi Challenge. Rue
comes in the workroom and says, the queen's charisma, uniqueness, nerve,
and talent have been pulled, poked and prodded like never before.
Now they're in the final stretch and they need to
prove who is the baddest bitch of them all. Oh
is about to get hot, Trixie, I love this part.

(15:42):
You know I do too. This is the best part,
you know, I will say, and I don't want to
tell stories out of school, but every year, every fucking year,
RuPaul says, it's the top four, only three of you
will proceed. Bitch that has not happened in a decade,
That has not happened in a decade, and all these
drag queens have to go. Oh, No one of us

(16:03):
is going home? Girl? When was there a top three
twenty eleven? Like seriously, RuPaul is like she's fifty first
dates where she's like only She's like, we're gonna send
one of you and all those girls are like girl,
But you know what, you never because this is the
thing for this season, season fifteen, there has been someone
going home every episode like that has been unusual because usually,

(16:27):
like you know, remember that, it was like a couple
of seasons ago, it was like really super long, like
you know, they would save people, they wouldn't let people
go some girl. That wasn't that Like, wasn't that your season?
Like fourteen? Yes, it was literally the longest I did
pit Stop that season. I was like, we have been
here for months, months, ninety minute episodes and there was

(16:50):
like thirty of them. I was like, is this West World?
Like it's crazy? You know, you tell all the stories. Okay.
So for their final Maxi Challenge, they will be collaboring
with Rue on the season fifteen remix of his song
Blame It on the Edit. Oh I love that song.
I mean, now you know for squirrel friends that may

(17:11):
be new to blame it on the Edit? Have you
ever blamed it on the edit, Trixie, you know back
in the day, back in mind, you know season seven,
like I was in Logo TV. You know, remember that,
and you would maybe interpersonally blame it on the edits.
You would maybe chat with a friend about how you
blame it on the edit. Now, these girls are going
down to the White House, they're getting on national stages,

(17:33):
and they are going ross Matthews lick my. I mean,
the girls now are wild. The girls now are like.
What they don't understand is I learned this really early,
learn this really early. Our drag queen told me this.
Whatever happens off camera, on camera, you have to remember

(17:53):
that the audience, their story is going to be what
they see in the episode. So even if you do
feel differently, you will look like a bitter, outrageous, wild
freak to tell stories out of school about some shit
that the audience never saw happen. Like, yeah, you can
feel differently, and but by the way, these are drag queens.

(18:13):
No matter what they do, they're like I was the
most sick name. So you have to consider the souris
because drag queens are not reliable narrators. Blame it on
the edit. Blame it on the lies, Blame it on
the fallacies and the fabrications, because I will say, it's
it's fun to be like, well, they conveniently miss that
clip in me doing this. But it's another thing to

(18:34):
every season of Drag Race. These girls get up there
and they soliloquy and monologue about their shortcomings and how
it only happened in Final Cut pro or Adobe Premiere.
And you know, the golden rule in reality TV is
nothing's more interesting than what really happened. Yes, and so
maybe it's an opportunity to go, well, maybe my perception

(18:55):
of it isn't exactly what happened. You know, you dress
like a different person and go buy a different name
for a living. Maybe you're not reliable. You know you've
got a drag though. Okay, so this is going to
be the remix of RuPaul, So blame it on to edit. First,
they need to write and record their own sassy versus.
Then they'll be working with Drag Race choreographer Miguel Zaratek

(19:19):
to create a new space theme music video extravaganza sort
of like Screen with Michael Jackson and Manna Jackson. And
then meanwhile, each of them will join Rue and Michelle
for an intimate tick chick chat. So Rue again says
that they are going to be three of them, and
it seemed convincing though it would only be three. Going

(19:41):
to the final, I was like, oh, you know, you know,
you know her. You could see her tell she was
like a poker table. She was like, you know what
I mean, She's like pulling her ear. I'm always like Rue,
really really, you know, I go by history and facts
and I'm like, girls, show me. I'll believe it when
I see it. You know. Well, we get into the

(20:05):
chick chat. Now, do you remember your chat? Did you
ever had one? Never had one? They did them on
All Stars and All Stars two, and I was on three.
We didn't do it on three, and then they did
on season seven, but I obviously did not. Yeah, because
I was edited unfairly. You blame it on the edit. Yes,

(20:26):
so I'm blaming it on the edit. I'm blaming it
on the edit. But I didn't get a TikTok luncheon,
which is a bummer because I honestly have only had
a few sit down girl to girl conversations, and Katy
has been on What's the Tea twice. Kata has got
a TikTok luncheon. One time on season ten, I think
I was a guest for a mini challenge and the

(20:47):
electricity went out and RuPaul and I were sitting in
the workroom in the dark while they were fixing everything,
just us together. And that was my secret TikTok luncheon
because there was no cameras and RuPaul was hostage to
hang out with me. So I was like, this is fear.
So that was my tictach luncheon. She asked me about

(21:07):
She was like, what you've been up to, you know?
I told her and she said, and your music. She said,
I've seen your music on the charting and stuff, and
she said you own all that and I said yeah,
And she was like, make sure you own as much
of your music as you can. She was saying how
important it is to try to own your content, own
your videos, own your music. So I got a little
secret tictach luncheon. But I never got the real like

(21:28):
cry about your cat or whatever lunch. Yeah. Yeah, well
you know what, we love these and you know what
you had the infamous vote for the winner bid on
All Star season three. Yeah, I would I wouldn't recommend
winning that way. I would recommend winning other ways. You know,
my five year anniversary of winning that was last week
and I didn't even post about it because I was like,

(21:50):
I don't want to incur the wrath of anyone, so
we'll just no. But you know what, I recommend winning
more conventionally, Okay, I don't recommend the front runner self eliminating.
That also introduces imagine if Sasha just left last week,
Oh my, oh old, people be so man. That would
be like, what would happen? So I recommend if you can,

(22:13):
getting that TikTok luncheon because that's probably a really magical moment. Yeah,
and it was a magical moment. Up first was Sasha
now Sasha. She moved from Hawaii twenty years ago, and
the interesting thing that I got out of that was
the tragedy of her family. She discussed losing her father,
her biggest ally, and what happened was that Sasha is

(22:36):
having issues with her mother, which a lot of us,
you know, do I've had issues with my mother, but
you know, because of Sasha wanting to be the person
that she should be. And then her biggest ally was
her dad and as it would happen her dad left
her the generational land, and as a queer person, it

(22:58):
felt like a seal of approval. That's why I like
these chit chats because it reveals something a little bit
extra that we don't know, and it humanizes, which you know,
what we've been talking about when we talk about these
laws and policies tricksy. When you get personal stories and
you hear these stories about the queens, that's why I

(23:18):
want people to hear about it, because it humanizes it.
This is not just people playing dress up. These are
people that are actually going through emotions, that feel things,
and they have a life, and they have a story
and they deserve to be happy. So when she revealed that,
that was just another layer of Sasha that I didn't
know about, especially you know, even as a drag queen,

(23:39):
you know, fifteen years in the industry. Like when I
started in drag, you know, ciss white young queens were
kind of the minority, and so drag was honestly my
first experience where I had personally very candid discussions about
other cultures. The trans experienced the black experience, like you know,

(24:01):
a little Caucasian from a small town drag. These are
real people with completely diverse experiences. Yes, so you also
get four tic tac luncheons that are completely different, different
because my god, we are not a monolith. I mean,
drag brings together the most different people who are all
here because we love the same sport. And you know,

(24:23):
for somebody like Sasha to be candid about not just
death in the family, but how transnis introduces distance with
a parent and then loss of another, it gets so complicated.
And anybody watching this, I don't want you to think
we'll see drag queens all have trauma, that's why they
cross dress. It's more like, oh, drag queens are all people,

(24:47):
so of course they have a little trauma because drag
queens are human beings. And so Sasha starting it off
and being that candid, it was like, yeah, it was
like it was a gift. It was. It was she
was generous with RuPaul and Michelle, but also the world
by talking about She could have talked about anything, and
she was generous by opening up that way. Definitely, she
feels that now after doing the show, that she could

(25:09):
do anything. She feels like she can do anything after
being on Drag Race Up next we have a Nitra
Anitra talked about growing up in a strict Mormon household,
feeling like she needed to be quiet and hide herself.
And it was funny because when she went to sit down,
RuPaul and Michelle both said, hey, you're the most unassuming

(25:30):
when it comes to being a drag queen because she's
so reserved. And then that's when we found out, Oh,
she's a Mormon. And I love that. Love that. You know,
I'm good gall pals with some of the women from
Housewives of Salt Lake City, and you know, I've gotten
to have one on one off camera discussions about like

(25:51):
when you introduced that restrictive religious error, it affects everything,
affects every permeates every decision you make. It permeates the
way you feel you're allowed to celebrate when you succeeded something.
It changes the process to success. I mean when she
introduced that idea, was like, oh my god, Like it's

(26:13):
hard enough to cross dress. I mean, we live in
a country where in non Mormon areas you can now
be criminalized for cross dressing, right, imagine being Mormon, like woe.
And she said that her drag persona gives her the
freedom to express into whatever she wants. Michelle gushed over
her Boss Bitch lip sync and reveals that it was
her favorite of all time. I mean, she did this.

(26:36):
It was a s I watched. I of course watched
the lipsyncs every week. I watched the runways the lipsyncs
every week. Okay, okay, yeah, that lip sync. I mean,
Deja created an incredible song. That's a great song. I
used the acapella of that in my DJ sets a lot,
because you can put that acapella over anything and people
get so nasty. They love it. Yea, if and if
when you have the gift of two good lip syncers

(26:58):
and a great track and good lighting, like it's a
recipe for success. Like it was amazing. Jumping over a person, Lonnie,
let me say, I'm ambitious me jumping over a drag
Sue would have looked a lot different. I would have
left in a fucking body bag. It would have been
like but she did it. She did it. She said

(27:21):
she learned how to vogue by doing it with her
sister in the dressing room. And there isn't much ballroom
scene in Las Vegas, but so her love of it
came from watching YouTube, and you know she loved to
walk in on a ball one day. This is the
beauty of technology too, Trixie. You know, with her not
you know, knowing about the balls and the houses and

(27:43):
things like that, she was able to learn so much
just by watching videos. And you know you are queen
of YouTube. I mean, girl, you can get a PhD
on YouTube at this point, like you know, probably not
on my channel unless you're trying to study easy bake
ovens and ship. But I also think, you know, this
is a generation of drag queens who put on wigs

(28:03):
for the first time because of what they saw on television.
So I think it's good to encourage people to access
things like ball culture, drag makeup. It's important to encourage
people to engage with that in whatever little avenue they
can reach it. Because if we're waiting for someone in

(28:23):
a conservative Mormon community to take the weekend off and
go to a real life ball, that might not ever
actually happen for that person. So it's great. You're right
that people can access that way. It is great. Up next,
we have Mistress. She talks about being a timid kid,
but once she found her voice, she realized it was
better to be outspoken and speak her truth. She says

(28:46):
her outspokenness got her in a little trouble with Lucy Leduca.
She says Lucy was a different person on and off camera. Woof,
she was given the t called her out on it.
If you're going to be a bit, just be a bitch.
I was watching this, like, I know Lucy can't get
a break. She's going to be at home watching this

(29:06):
on TV. And she's like, girl, I'm gone, Why are
you still dragging me within an inch of my life? Like,
I'm gone, how do you deal? Like in the two
seasons that you were in, was there ever something that
you looked? He's like, wait, what? To be honest, when
I look back at things I was in, I only
ever have like regrets about how I handle things what
other people say about me? My two favorite quotes RuPaul,

(29:29):
what are the people think about me? Is not my business? Right?
And as Zelia Bank says, like your problems with me
are your problems? Yeah, I'm not sure we should always
follow everything everyone ever says, but those two quotes I
really like because you can't really change what other people
say or think about you. You can really change how
you feel about it. Yeah, definitely. You know, like there
was a fight that changel and I had once over

(29:51):
a note in the workroom, and I'm just not a
I'm not a conflict ready person as far as it's
interesting that I do reality, because I'm never one to
like if someone challenges me, I'm not like, well what
about this? Well what about this? Yeah? I really just
kind of I shrink, and I always wish I would
when I get into these situations on camera. I wish

(30:13):
I knew how to stand up for myself because I
just shrink. I really just shrink. I'm kind of that way.
I think it's not that you shrink. I think you
just don't like conflict, you know what I mean at all?
You just don't. It's like and sometimes there's no need
for it, but you know, some people feed off of it.
And sometimes that's what I believe Mistress does. She likes
to kid, and she likes to tease and poke and pride.

(30:37):
It's just like if she senses that. It's like a dog.
If a dog senses that you're afraid of it, it's
the worst thing. It'll keep, you know, barking, It'll keep
trying to attack. Do you have a lot of dog trauma. Yeah,
I got bit by a dog when I was five,
You did, yes, I wah the lady my baby lunch,
And now I know. I was five years old and

(30:58):
I was with my babysitter and we were going to
her nephew's house. And I'll never forget. I was walking.
We had to park the car, we were walking, and
we were walking toward the house and then this big
german shepherd And mind you, before that, I loved dogs.
Big german shepherd comes just running and I'm five, so
I don't know. I'm thinking it's coming to play with me,

(31:19):
and it just jumps on top of me. And I
just closed my eyes because I saw his teeth and
I could still see to this day. I could see
the teeth and someone just told me just to hold
still and close my eyes. And I knocked out. When
I woke up, I was in the hospital and I
had this big so I almost didn't have an eye, tricksie.
Almost I would have been one eyed linie like this.

(31:39):
But yes, it bad me right. I said, it'd been
right here, and if I had, if I had turned
or something, it probably would have been my eye out.
But I believe that that was God that was protecting
me and just told me to stand still because it
just I was on the ground. I was just still
so believe that. Yeah, and so that's why. And it
took me a long time. And that's what I mean

(32:00):
about fear. It took me a long time to get
over the fear of dogs. But I love forget. When
I went to the therapist, they were like, if they
sense that you're afraid, And that's the same thing with people,
a lot of people, and people like a mistress who
is really a loving person and does it in a
fun way. But still, if you're a person that you know,
you don't like conflict or you don't like people talking

(32:22):
about you publicly or whatever, it's hard for you to
take it. So but you have to learn how to
deal with a person like that. Yeah, I'm totally with you.
I do wish I had just a touch of mistress
like in me, with like the ability to have the
courage to like actually clap back, you know, because I mean,
you know, I don't have. I just I really don't

(32:44):
love that about myself. I wish she's really comfortable going
to the red table talk with people at any moment.
She she doesn't, you know, she really loves it. Can
you imagine if I've only had one eye welcome to
the stage, one eye lining, that would be my whole
dude persona. But you just get bangs and you just

(33:04):
walk fast and oh yeah, I get one size sides bang.
But you know what, I do believe that the thing
that she did mention Mistress in her chit chat was
that she battles insecurity all the time and she has
to be confident for herself because she's faced so many
situations where others, like her biological family, let her down.
And I think that's where that I'm going to talk

(33:25):
about you before you talk about me comes from, you
know totally. I mean, when you feel a certain amount
of I'm gonna say her words. I'm not calling her insecure.
The insecurity she's talking about. When you feel that it
puts you on an edge where you can be zero
to sixty because you already have that inner voice being
like ooh, I don't know about you, girl, and then

(33:47):
if somebody even touches it, you're like, you know, and
it's I get that. I can I know now we're
not talking about her makeup. This bitch that makeup is dusted.
That is the most beautiful. When they're doing the all
season they're showing her through the season, that makeup is unbelievable.
Some of the most beautiful makeup I've ever seen on

(34:08):
drag Rass in my life. Yeah, and you know what
the thing is, she wanted to do everything possible in
the competition. Like you said, the makeups has been flawless.
She wants to make her drag family and her hometown proud,
and she's doing just that. You know she's from Houston, right, Yep,
She's from Houston, Texas. Girl. Next, we have lux New

(34:30):
Air London. She planned and wanted every look she wore
on and off the main stage to be a fashion moment.
This is one of our young queens. She's got that
slender body. She knows about the fashion. She has the
confidence of the world. She went to Cecily L. Tyson
High School for the Performing Arts, and Rue is just

(34:50):
gagged like that because by the way, we love we
love miss Tyson. Of course, yes, but when we talk
about RuPaul's reaction, I was like the spiritual bong rip
that she took when she said Tyson. RuPaul lately has
been I love RuPaul's laughs so much, but lately RuPaul

(35:11):
has been like on the verge of laughing at all times.
And so RuPaul will be like, I like your sweater,
and the Queen's like sweater. I hardly knew her, and
RuPaul's like like RuPaul is an easy crack up, like
she likes to laugh. I love that cackle. RuPaul is
in her laughing era. That's all. She's in her laughing era.

(35:33):
I mean, lux is so. I mean, of course she's beautiful, yes, yes,
and all shapes are beautiful. When you have a traditionally
fashioned forward shape, you have a lot of You can
go to the store and buy something. I mean, sam
as in drag. If you have small feet, you can
go to the women's shoes shoe store and just buy shoes.
I mean, she has access to a lot of clothing

(35:55):
and stuff that helps her on this journey to create
these fashion moments. Because my god, is she beautiful. Mine's
been doing it, you know. But the whole Cecily Tyson
High School, that just shows you just how young she is.
Because Cecily Tyson, who I also met. I met Cecily
Tyson when Tyler Perry had the grand opening of his
studio in Atlanta, and I was running late as usual

(36:18):
on the red carpet, but there was a reason Trixie,
because who was also running late, Cecily Tyson, And that
was my moment to meet her. I had words, We
took pictures, and you know, I asked her how did
she feel about because Tyler actually was the first movie
mogul or studio to actually pay her a million dollars

(36:41):
for doing a movie. Wow. I love Tyler so much.
I've always wanted to meet him. He's really a great guy. Icon. Yeah,
he's a drag icon too, if you think about it. Media. Yes,
I love media, and I love Tyler. He's good friends
with Lisa ander Pump and she always says he's like
the nicest person alive, nicest nice. Oh. I hope to
someday he won't text me at two o'clock in the

(37:03):
morning and he's like, I'm just you know, I'm praying
for you. I mean, that's just the time. Like he's
a billionaire on an island somewhere on his private island,
and he's like, he'll text me or I'll text him.
Like I text him a lot more now than he
tells gonna say, don't you get nervous if it's two
am and he texts you out of nowhere, I'm praying
for you. You know what that's like, it's something wrong.

(37:26):
Was really like into it too. He was like, I'm
praying for you. It's something going on. And I'm like,
not really, but okay, I'll tell You're like, I better
go lock my front door. Damn. Like I'm praying for you.
You're like, am I Okay? I love it. So when
Lux has asked about her confidence, she says it comes
from her parents. They taught her to be a leader

(37:48):
and not a follower. You can be proud of your
accomplishments because there will always be people who say you
can't be that. And I think that's so great because
you know how many times we hear about parents that
aren't supportive. To hear this story of having supportive parents,
I think that that's just great, And that's why we
have these type of conversations to show people everybody's not

(38:11):
like like you just said, it's not a monolitht you know,
there's some parents there are supportive. There's some it takes
a little bit more, And you know, I just think
that it's great that you can tell that having that
support is what is making Lucks the queen that she is,
which is a fabulous queen. Totally. Because on drags, we
hear so many stories of my family doesn't like my

(38:32):
drag and we it's fun to hear a story like
Gigi Good was another example of someone who's who's parent
like roots for them. M you know, I love hearing
stories of like positivity from family. Yeah, my mom's a
positive or negative. She could not be less and pressed
like less and fast. She's like my mom is literally like, well,
whatever you have to do to make money, you know,

(38:55):
we gotta make some money right now. So I got
to hit another break, but we'll be right back with
my special guest, Trixie Mattel. And we are back with
our special guest co host, Trixie Mattel. Let's get into
this video rehearsal shoot day. You know, rehearsals are always like, Okay,

(39:20):
I did Celebrity Drag Race and when I had to
do the rehearsal, we had two days to learn. We
had two two days off camera, yes two days, okay,
actually it was actually one day, and then we came
back the next day and we did. We shot it.
You know, I learned it that day and I was
able to go home that night and kind of look

(39:42):
at the film and try to get it down. But
for this they had to learn it right then and there.
The choreography, they had to learn it right then and there.
Have you ever had that pressure? Did you guys have
to do that? Well? The fact that they had to
rehearse and drag is I was like, oooh, the pressure
is on, Like, I mean, drag is so horrible, Like
it's so restricting and uncomfortable. Well, I guess not really

(40:04):
now for the new drag queens because they don't wear
body or makeup or wigs. But like you know, drag
queens in general, it's tough to rehearse and drag like
it's it's just restrictive, like can't then, can't move, can't breathe,
can't sweat, by the way, don't sweat yeh? Make fun
and kitty girl. We had to learn it all out

(40:26):
of drag, okay, and then we just had to do
it like one take. So once you're in the drag,
we didn't waste a lot of time and drag. But
guess what you had one shot, so that was a
little spooky. Yeah, that's what happened with us. We only
had that one shot to actually do the whole routine.
So yeah, it was kind of like the same. But

(40:47):
they because this is the final four, they're under pressure.
So Michelle was there at the rehearsal along with Miguel,
and we had our girl a Nietra was in this
fire red outfit with a s Quinns. We had lux
Noir who was in like a pleather leather body suit
with thigh high white boots on the heels, and then

(41:09):
we had Sasha who was looking like the most fierce
Pam Anderson ever. And then Mistress had on all multicolored
body suit, really restrictive, really tight, but it looked beautiful,
and of course her face was done. So they were
all in full drag for this rehearsal because they didn't

(41:30):
know this. I don't think they had to learn it.
And then they shot it immediately after that, and that
was where the pressure was. Yeah, I mean it's also
when you're learning choreography on drag race. Nobody ever talks
about this. There's the girls who like fucking girls like
girls who can do like the drag dancing, and then
there's girls who clock time in a studio in front

(41:52):
of a mirror learning choreography on drag race. When you
can do the splits or a cart wheel, people go,
you're a dancer. But then you put these people in
choreography mode and they can't grasp a thing. So we
really need to talk about when we talk about who's
a dancer on drag race. Doing a backbend doesn't make
you a dancer, it makes you bendy. Oh you know
these girls who have to learn the choreo and they
can pick it up. LUs was like, give me this choreography.

(42:14):
I got it right, right, because it also is mindset.
Once you decide you're not a dancer, your brain is
not going to accept that information. And that's what happened
to mistress. Yeah. Once they're like, who's a dancer here,
raise your hand, say you're a dancer. Just lie. Every
time I drag race and they said, who's a dancer?
I raised my hand? Wow, just lie, lie, lie, lie,
give yourself the confidence. Because during the rehearsal, you know,

(42:38):
Lutz was having a great time. Sasha of course, was
picking it up. A Nietzsche was having a little hard time,
but definitely Mistress was having a hard time and she
was getting in her head. And so now Michelle and
Miguel both were trying to get Mistress out of her head.
And I think sometimes when you're a bigger person, because

(43:00):
I'm a bigger girl, you let your weight restrict you
and you can't allow that to happen. It's like there
are tricks that you can do when you're bigger that
makes the move look big without it, even though you
can't maybe lift your hand all the way up, but
you can flip that head so it looks like it's
movie totally. Absolutely. I mean, it's not even a big thing.

(43:22):
It's also the diva thing, like Maria is not doing
what the dancers doing. Mariana is doing like the slightest
whisper of what they just did, you know what I mean,
Like if it's like a bam, Maria's like you know,
but if you commit to it, it's fine, right right
right once you're in it, and it's already and once
you're in rehearsal and Michelle has to stop and ask

(43:45):
you if you're doing okay. You got to have nerves
of steel because that's not helping is looking at you
like Michelle has got an ice cold stare Michelle Vissage.
Then you got Miguel Vissage and the chair next to her. This,
by the way, this is not Ryan Huffington, this is
not Candice Cane. Miguel was. Miguel was talking straight to

(44:06):
these women, which I can really appreciate. Yeah, yeah, but
that's what you need. You need that encouragement. You know
when Miguel said you need to start performing, which is
inferring that you haven't performed yet, Like that is roth,
that's roth. Lonnie No mistress was like, I'm just a

(44:27):
big bitch out of Brown. It's like, no, you don't
know the steps, honey, It's about knowing the steps. It's like,
it's about knowing this. It's like, it's about knowing the steps.
But also, let's talk about they had to write a
verse for the Rue Paul song and they had to
rehearse it and writing the verse, Like have you ever
had to experience that? Because we did a rusico, but

(44:48):
we didn't have to actually write. Our verses were written
for us, so we didn't have to write. Yeah, that
wasn't can't relate um on Kitty girl we had to
write her own and I'd already played my harp, I
already played my guitar, so I was like, I want
to do rapping. I'm not exactly a versed rapper. I mean,
of course I have, like Missy Elliott under construction. Of

(45:10):
course I have the essentials, but I don't exactly sit
home and spit rhymes and freestyle in my house. So
it was a little spook. I know it's hard to
believe that, Lonny, but oh, you don't believe it. But
I was not scared of it. And I think when
it comes to writing your verses, I'd written records before,

(45:30):
but not rapping. I was just not scared of it.
I'm just and you know, when it comes to rapping
and bitch tracks, there's no value in an earnest declaration
of mediocrity, Like you shouldn't be like I'm kind of
good and you like, yeah, you have to be like
I'm the best in your garbage, because that's the nature
of it. So you know, by the way, you better

(45:54):
also learn it because once you get it, you have
to do movement with it. That's right. So, my god,
the pressure is on for these ladies. There's a reason
why this this top four is always frenetic. I mean,
Kitty Girl was a blur, a blur, like I barely
remember doing it because it was just a blur. I

(46:15):
remember Bebe's a harbon At dancing in front of a
sewing machine and thinking that was bogus. That's all I remember.
I remember being like that bitch doesn't know how to
turn that machine on, and we're supposed to believe she's
throwing fabric, and like, sewing girl, please you better call
Bebe would be like, sister, how do I turn this on?

(46:35):
You know what I mean? Like if we would have
to help her? Oh, I love that bitch. She had
beby on here. She is so amazing. We will, we
definitely will. So we finished the rehearsals. I think the
person I was most worried leaving the rehearsal was for Mistress.
That was the challenge. The other girls, you know, I
knew they could pick it up, do whatever, but Mistress

(46:55):
was the one. So we get into the workroom elimination
day in the queens are all sitting around. They're chatting
about how they think they did for the music video,
and it is important again for Squirrel friends to realize
they only get that day to do that, and they
had to shoot right then and there the chorus part.

(47:17):
So that was a lot when we didn't get to
see the result. But that was a lot of pressure.
It's a lot, and it was a look change. Yeah,
I didn't even clock that. Once the video came out,
I was like, oh, my god, Dad, a whole other
look these girls. I know we haven't gotten any really
critiques yet, but overall, my god, these girls really delivered.
Well that's what it's top four. They're the fantastic four

(47:40):
because of that. They also in the workroom they're chatting
about their first impressions of each other. Well, everybody thought
that mistress was gonna be a piece of appeal, and
she was and she was. Some people thought Sasha was
gonna be like snotty, but she turned out to be
a sweetie pie and very helpful, you know all that.

(48:01):
It's interesting how the queens initially see each other and
then once they get to know each other, it comes
out differently. Absolutely. You know who I talked to the
least on RuPaul's drag race, Katya. We barely spoke. We
barely spoke. I mean, we barely spoke because I think
I saw what she looked like, and I was like, Oh,

(48:22):
she's just gonna be like a sexy little slut. Like
I didn't really think she was gonna do. I didn't
think she's gonna be funny. I mean, I didn't really
get it. And now it's crazy thinking back that. I mean,
we've worked together for like almost a decade now, but
we barely spoke on drag Race. So your snap judgment,
your first impression, that's all it is because you don't know.

(48:43):
Was it because you guys didn't speak because you didn't
have time, or you know, like get the squirrel Friends
an experience. I think she was threatened by my beauty.
I think we remember what I looked like in season seven.
I think everyone was just threatened by how beautiful I was.
That's probably not true. I think we just got in
different groups, We got ready in different areas of the room.

(49:04):
You kind of pick a person in bond. I mean
I knew Pearl from beforehand. I got I was kind
of enchanted by fame, as we all were miss Fame,
so I was definitely mosied up to her. Jaden, do
your fears. I feel like I chatted with her a lot.
You just kind of latch onto your people when there's
fifteen of you, we don't have time to dedicate to
someone all day. And I went home fourth. It's not

(49:24):
exactly like right, I was there the whole time, so right,
I got you. But you know, it's interesting to hear
the first impressions of each other because drag queens are
they are the queens of flip flops too, as far
as like changing their mind about something whenever they want, Yeah,
you're my best friend, but I hated you three days ago.
You know, like that's the team, that's the emotions that

(49:45):
you go through, you know. And this was the season
of gates. Lux was part of all of the gates
once they were talked about it. We're talking about the
forty inch gate, where there was an argument that Lux
was she wearing forty inches of hair, and so they
ended up, you know, bringing out a ruler four to
forty inches and it was like, yeah, it was the

(50:07):
forty inches, but it was forty just kind of scraggling.
It wasn't a gorgeous forty inches. Yeah, it wasn't like
a luxurious you know. There was also baby bump gate
with Lucy when she played Beyonce Night of a Thousand Beyonce,
she was pregnant Beyonce or the pregnancy revealed, but she
didn't have a baby bump at all. She didn't and
then they were like, where's the baby bump, you know,

(50:32):
and she was just like, well, like, you know, a
girl just put on the baby bump. I mean, if
you get an opportunity. I've never played pregnant and drag,
but I would think it would be fun. Yeah. I
mean I've played Beyonce pregnant and it for Halloween and
it's always fun. So but that was like one of
the most iconic moments when Beyonce was performing at the
VMA's and she unbuttoned that jacket and it showed the

(50:56):
baby bump and it was like, you didn't do that, louse.
See what is a flat stomach? Yeah, it was like
revealing that you decided not to have a baby, or
like a weight loss reveal or like, I don't know,
it was like it's different kind of you know, you know,
but you know what, this is the final four Tricksie
and they're preparing for the last day on the main stage.

(51:19):
What is that feeling like? Well, I gotta tell you
something none of them talked about. But the reality is,
you're so tired. You've been doing twelve hour days in
drag for months. They're starting to prepack, they're starting to
think about they're going to get their phone in two days.
You know, they're starting to realize, I'm almost done. No
matter what happens, I'm going in two days. And once

(51:41):
the fear of being eliminated is gone, that final stretch
of just you four in a work room that used
to be filled with people, it's very intimate. It's very
intimate because you can't not acknowledge that there are eleven
other girls from your season who would kill you in
a second to have what you have. Wow, And it's

(52:03):
so intimate because there's the four of you or three
of you supposed to be three of you, and you
have a second to kind of say your final piece
about each other, because once one of you continues, or
once they yell rap like, you're probably all going to
go your separate ways and you might not see each
other until a premiere or on tour or something. This
is your final moment to really like air it out

(52:26):
in a sense of gratitude, not like comfort people. But
it's a moment to be vulnerable about the fact that
you have done what you came here to do. You're
nine there, wow, and you're looking one of you will win.
You're sitting in a room with the winner. That's the
other thing. Now, how do you deal without having a
phone all of those weeks? How did you deal with that?
At first it sucks and then it's amazing when you

(52:49):
have no computer or no phone. It is Kirsty Alli
Tim Allen for richer or for poor living in Amish community.
It's really amazing. And do you realize I liked cross strets.
I mean I've been doing drags since maybe right around
Instagram started, so before Twitter, I think before TikTok for

(53:10):
any of that, and there was more of a sense
of what I do in drag matters the most in
this moment. The content or the picture of it or
the video of it or the boomerang of it is
not more important. And especially on drag race, I think
it kind of helps to just have your head in
the game. Imagine if all day you had to text, oh, hey,

(53:31):
what have you been up to? I don't know what? Like,
there's no space for that. It sucks when you get
your phone back and it's I'm not kidding, hundreds of mistexts,
hundreds of miscalls, hundreds of voicemails, emails. It sucks. It's
a whole few hours of just responding response. You don't
get to tell people that you're on the show. No,
so you've been gone all that time? Yeah, I remember

(53:54):
I told Kimchi Kim. She and I were really close
at the time, and I told her my grandma died
and she said, I've seen your drag. I don't think
your grandma's gonna be dead very long, which is such
a shady thing to say that, bitch. I mean, you know,
but when when you're a working drag queen, you work
three nights a week in town and you're suddenly gone,
everybody knows you didn't. Gay people can keep secrets, like

(54:17):
everybody know. You come home and everyone's like, so all
the local gay bars are like, so we'd like to
give your own show now, you know, everybody suddenly starts
giving you everything you want and you're like, hmm, you know,
or like the type of gay is that maybe you
would have never come to see your show before, are
now showing up local drag race fans start showing up

(54:37):
to your shows before you've been on TV. That happens,
I mean, everything changes. Your drag life goes from black
and white to technicolor. So we're watching four people almost
in the womb before their life changes forever. These are
the last moments before they step out into the world
as like kind of famous drag queens. So it's very intimate.
These are I mean for all intense purposes. We're watching

(54:59):
four people I don't want to say nobody's but compared
to what their life will be like in a year. Yes,
they are relishing in a moment of almost like this
is the last time we will be let's just say,
Grinder will never be the same again. You will never
be able to use Grinder again, like you know, enjoy it.
We gotta take another break, but when we come back,

(55:19):
we're gonna go to the main stage one last time.
We'll be right back, and we're back. We're at the
main stage. RuPaul comes out. Oh I mean, I mean,
I mean, let me just specify. RuPaul dog walks every

(55:43):
single one of us every single day, like it's so
unreal how beautiful she looks. I understand that there's hair
and makeup and a team, but it still is just
her my I mean just, I mean, she has come
a long way. This gown that she has is a
rose colored gown that perfectly matches her skin color. It's

(56:04):
a high split on one side and it's a beautiful
bow on the other. It's a sequence rose gold with
her platinum blonde hair and makeup as fears, It's just
I can't even describe it anymore, Tricksie, It's just beautiful, untouchable.
I mean it has to do with RuPaul's like skin tone,

(56:25):
not just the shade, but the tone. Color of RuPaul's
skin is that perfect, like that calm Armal where she
can do any It's look like Vanessa Williams where she
can do any color yes, yes. And then the way
they always tweak her makeup and hair just enough that
she looks different, but it still looks like RuPaul. They
just I mean, I think it could be studied. The

(56:48):
process of getting RuPaul ready for the runway. It's incredible.
It is incredible the way she looks. It's a beautiful outfit.
This week is just family. Is Michelle and Ross there
to judge? The way category is drag excellence. Up first
is a Nitra and she comes out looking intergalactic with

(57:10):
this blue velvet dress. Blue is the velvet base of it,
with crystals all around and tassels, and her hair is
up in a beautiful platinum blonde points and it says
she's got a lot of points. That's what they said.
As far as you know, in her movement of it,

(57:31):
it fish tails to the bottom. She knows how the soul,
she knows what she looks like. She made this outfit herself.
A Nitra knows herself, and this is what gets you
to top four. This type of outfit. Girl, this was crazy.
My first thought was perfect. She looks perfect. I mean,

(57:53):
I know I talked about Miss Mistress's makeup artistry to
me is like God tear an trained too shabby either.
That makeup is unbelievable. That contour when she turned her head,
and the way she shades her cheek just high enough
to lift it the cupet and then that snatched eye.
Because sometimes I think that, I mean, I've seen all
the looks this season. Sometimes I think that our nature

(58:14):
wears too much makeup for her flat little wigs. And
you can all put me in jail. I don't care,
I don't care whatever, But and this look, I was like, Oh,
she looked amazing. She looked amazing. And I think it's
hard to wear blue and silver and crystal without looking
New Year's or hanukkah to me. Sometimes to me it

(58:35):
sometimes reads holiday. Yeah, she just looked perfect. Didn't she
look perfect? Lonnie? She looked wonderful. Up next was lux
new or London and all white. The joke was straight
from the Cecily L. Tyson Performing Arts Academy Cecily L.
Tyson is you know she's getting her flowers today and

(58:56):
the references, oh we love Sicily. This is an all
white floor length gown with a train, a high slit,
another bow on the side, sleeveless with rhinestones on one
side of the breast, and her hair was up in
corn rolls cascading down. Beautiful, beautiful afrocentric textured hair that

(59:19):
fit this dress in long cascading crystal earrings. What did
you think about this? I really nut for like high
texture hair when it looks because of the movement when
you're walking, it catches air, like the hair swells as
you walk and it breathes. It's just beautiful. YEA loved love.

(59:40):
I mean I just love her at least not my
favorite look of all hers. Okay, but I like, I
mean she looks beautiful and white of course. Yeah, I'm
the body makeup police. Didn't have any body makeup on.
But I understand that when you're wearing white, I can't
exactly do body makeup, right. I was watching it and
I went, how come it doesn't match your head? And

(01:00:00):
they said, oh, she can't. It's a white outfit. She can't.
Oh see, you would be a great judge because see
I wouldn't pick that up. Oh no, I'm queen of
the universe. It's a singing competition. I'm like, great job,
where's your body makeup? It's like the first thing I
talk about, just because I believe in when this makeup
is so good and she is quite a beauty. Oh

(01:00:20):
my god, Yes, she really looked. She looks excellent. I mean,
she looks excellent. But it's also a competition, and it's
these little things that people pick up, you know, especially
when judging, that people pick up that are also important
we don't think about, but that judges actually do. So Yeah,

(01:00:40):
her looks usually have like a pop kind of severity
to them and this look I can appreciate that. She
really went touchable, soft, real glowing. It was almost I
love the two braids. So it was like big texture
with movement and then like two long pieces. Ye love
that love that. I don't know if this is intentional,

(01:01:01):
but during the music video she had a wig with
two braids. Here she's doing a two braid storyline. God,
she's I met her a few weeks ago. I was
in I forget where I was, but I went down
the street to a club and she was doing an
after party because I had a show at a theater
down the street. I think she was doing after party
at the club and I met her in. God, she's beautiful.
That makeup in real life is just I've never that waste.

(01:01:24):
I can't even comprehend that there's organs in there. That's
called young. I can't comprehend, Lonnie, that there's organs in there. Organs,
there's organs. I know there's a stomach in there, there's
sta it's systomach. It's there. Well, if she needed if
she needed a kidney transplant, they have to get it

(01:01:45):
from a guinea pig. Like she is. She has like
my dream body that I will never have. Good her, Oh,
I get It's up next Sasha Kobe with a beautiful,
cultured look. Her hair is in a headpiece with lay
and this gown. Let's describe it. Let's describe that gown, Trixie.

(01:02:05):
You know, the closer I looked at it, the more
I liked it. At first, I was like, m nude,
great beige, whatever. And then honestly I didn't love it
at first at the end of the runway, but when
it walked toward us and we started to see more stones,
more details, It's like, ah, yeah, oh love the jewelry
to me, the jewelry made it the little Yes. I

(01:02:26):
don't know if you can call jewelry giant Bengals. Yes,
she looked just beautiful. Her face always looks beautiful. Love
the flowers on the head. It was a beautiful French
twist in the back using her real hair, which I
bet she did that herself. It's not easy to do
your own French twist. She really mastered that. It wasn't
my favorite eye makeup. Put me in jail, Put me

(01:02:47):
in prison. I thought it made it look like her
eyes were looking in two different directions. Yeah. Yeah, you
could see that when she was standing and they were
talking to the judges, when they would stand into the
judges because she was at an angle, so sometimes you
have to watch that. But overall, the look of elegance
was there, and elegance and it really felt when she
mentioned Hawaii, it did feel did feel humidity like it was, yeah,

(01:03:15):
like if the flowers it felt. I mean, I've only
been in Hawaii once, but it felt like, oh, this
is a tribute to her. Yeah, someplace that's important to you.
And that's what she stated that that was a tribute
to her home state. Last, but not least, Mistress Isabel
Brooks in a gown that she actually wore during one
of her championships. It's a gold silver ley cheetah beat

(01:03:41):
it dress, cheetah print and the prints are not on
She made sure to tell us the prints aren't on
the fabric. It's actually beats like handmade. Like this dress
is sixty pounds and it fit her. Actually, this dress
made her looks smaller to me. It was gorgeous dress.

(01:04:02):
What did you think of it? Lux is sixty pounds
like this dress this, I mean for somebody to pack
that in a susstress though, Oh I know, but luxy
flux body like she's carrying lux um. It was just impressed.
I mean, to pack up outfit that fragile real beads

(01:04:25):
like that fragile heavy to save it to the end
of the competition. From the neck up. That bitch works
my pussy out. I think her makeup and her hair
looked unreal, unreal, and her makeup anywhere she turned her
head under those studio lights, it looked perfect. It's amazing.

(01:04:46):
And that dress fit her perfectly? Did her great fit
her perfectly? What a wonderful final showing all four of them, really,
but I especially thought that mistress, what a great final look? Yeah,
was that your favorite out of the four? No? Anitra
a Nietra eight. She chewed, she swallowed, she regurgitated, she
gagged like Anetra and Anetra made that outfit, Yeah she did.

(01:05:10):
You know when you have mistress saying I love this outfit,
someone did it and she's like, this represents some hours
of work, I said, bitch, not you like Anetra made
that outfit. So that also adds a little like one percent, right, No, right,
but they all look I mean honestly, we're comparing apples
and oranges. These are four fear stride queens who look

(01:05:34):
better than me or anyone I know. So it was
a great top for So we see the final version
of Blaming on the edit. What did you think of it? First,
we had a Nietra and Lux New Or London come out.
They changed outfits. Lux New War had on a like
all white like a white mini a skirt with the
thigh high white boots, a sleeveless mini top with a

(01:05:58):
platinum white hair, which in the black and white it
looks great. And then Anitra had on this multi colored
body suit and she also had her head with points
and I'm makeup to match, and it just they looked fierce.
They did the dance. I thought they both did well
in the music video. Yeah, honestly, I think for me

(01:06:21):
they gave the two maybe best performances. Yeah spoiler alert,
I'm happy for who wins this challenge, but they were
my two favorites in the performances. Lux really walked in
there and ate that ship up. You would think it
was Lux's video. Honestly, she performed like it was her video,
and that's what you have to do in the final stretch,
you have to be like this is my video. Yeah, definitely,

(01:06:43):
and anitra you know, I know we talked about her
being soft spoken or whatever, but when it comes to
focus and locking it in, when they say action, that
bitch was locked in. Wow. Wow, wow, wow wow. She
is just an amazing dry queen that I'm so excited about.
And luck, oh god, I could I could watch her
read the phone book. She is so beautiful. It's just great.

(01:07:05):
And up next we had Sasha Kobe and Mistress Isabel Brooke.
Sasha Kobe had on this wonderful body suit. It was
like a new Delusion body suit, makeup to match with
it with high platform, pointy heels. A mistress had on
a corset body suit. Her hair was cascading in like
a blonde with matching makeup, and she missed a couple

(01:07:28):
of steps. Mistress did, but the judges did comment that
her look, as far as her lip sync was on point,
better than all the other three and that even though
she missed the steps, she made up with it by
her lip sync in the video. What did you think?
I mean, she's obviously the worst dancer there. She is

(01:07:51):
that was the worst dancing of the four It was
she knows that I know what we all watched, right, whatever,
But I'm gonna be honest. When video ended, her solo
sections lip syncing and that big, beautiful, flawless mug was
all I could think about. It was my favorite part
of the video was her solo lip syncs. Her artistry

(01:08:12):
is beyond. She painted on a face that was more
interesting or compelling than anything else going on the video.
So then it was like every time she's on camera
lip syncing, You're like, it was just it's can you
tell I like her? Can tell her? I love be
I just I'm such a cornball because I love beauty

(01:08:33):
and she is so beautiful. I mean just oh god,
she's so gorgeous. And so I don't care if you
can't dance. Yeah, and that's what the judge is said,
that's what they said. As far as squeaking that win,
of course, it helps to be the best drier, but
as a person just enjoying the performance, mistress just she

(01:08:54):
made up for that dancing and other areas, I think definitely.
And you know what the thing is too, is that
in this video, RuPaul looked awesome, looked like a biker chick,
straight metal hair, beautiful, gorgeous and actually looks sang a
lot of her part her verse, which we didn't know
that she was a singer, and so that was really

(01:09:16):
really great. So we got through the video and then
we get to the part where Rue asked the queens
what would they say to their younger selves? She puts
up that picture when you was three or four. Now,
I'm like, oh, what would you say to your younger self?
Run from the dog? Now, what would you say? No? No,

(01:09:36):
We established that if you had run, it could have
gone worse. You are so fun. I know I would
have been like if RuPaul was like, what would you
say the little Brian, I'd be like, in nineteen ninety five,
the Green Day Packers are going to get the Super Bowl.
Put all your money down neck like girl, I would
never I would like back to the future to this.
I would start feeding them statistics with baseball. You know

(01:09:57):
you're gonna want to invest in hand sanitizer and about
when you're not you know, like I would be using
that to my advantage. But you know, it's such an
intense moment to talk to your younger self while basically
the queen of your art form holds a photo of Wow.
That is a surreal moment. It is. It's one of

(01:10:19):
my favorite moments during the episodes. It's just it makes
you reflect, It makes you, you know, think about where
you come from, and you try not to cry, but
you automatically, you know, when you think about all the
work that you put in and what you've been through
and the ups and the downs. It's like, it's a
very emotional moment. So I always love you. You try

(01:10:40):
not to cry. But money, if it's just us girls,
you know you got to cry to win. So you
better cry a bitch. If you don't have trauma, you
better pinch yourself. You better pinch your nipple clean off,
because if you want to win, you have to cry.
I'm not I'm being funny, but I'm also like, you
need to cry to win? You do? You have to?
As they ever won drag Rass without crying, not since

(01:11:02):
Tyrolle Like, you have to cry to win? Sponsored by
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The judges give their final critiques. Did you agree or
disagree with any of the judge's opinions? You know where
I really felt seen was when the hilarious Roth Matthews said.

(01:11:24):
He said that you might have missed the dance steps,
but once your face came on screen with your lipsync,
you got me and I went God, guys, That's why
I'm very forgiving of her not dancing well because those
sections really hooked me. So, Yeah, the truth is, drag
queens are also different. It's not an exciting competition if
everyone's the best at everything exactly and they're all so different,

(01:11:44):
they're all you know. Rue said that she made her
mind up at the beginning of the season to have
an elimination every episode, but at this point of the episode,
she said that she was still making up her mind
who should go. And you know, when they were doing
the deliberations, it's just the three of them. You know,

(01:12:04):
you could tell that it was really really hard because Mistress,
although she didn't do the dance steps right for that
particular challenge, she's been killing in the acting challenge. She's funny.
The one thing that really resonated with me what Ras
said about Mistress was that you're a big girl, but
you don't make yourself the butt of the joke. Yes,

(01:12:26):
that was like you know because I remember when I
was judging. It was season fourteen, and I was talking
to Cornbread and I gave Cornbread the note that, hey,
everything don't have to be about food, and believe it
or not, Trixie, she sent me a tweet like about
a month ago, and she put it out and she said,

(01:12:49):
you know, at first, when Lonnie Loves said what she said,
because she had just watched the episodes, she hadn't watched
it when she was on, and so she had just
watched it, and she said she could remember being set
with what I said. And then she said she remembered
taking some time and thinking about what I actually told
her about herself and having confidence and not always using

(01:13:11):
joke or like I'm greedy and I'm this and that.
And she said, now I understand what Lonnie meant. Well,
I don't think you were being critical of her as
much as you were reminding her she can open up
her she can like paint with a wider brush when
she makes com I was gonna say, you're lucky you
didn't get told to eat her by Cornball, like you're
lucking out, girl. The judges have to watch their backs.

(01:13:33):
And by the way, you signed up to be judged.
You did. The government didn't come to your house and
force you to be judged on television. When you sign
up for drag Race, you go, I would love the
opportunity to be critiqued. And then when you get critiqued
and you balk at it, girl, that just means you

(01:13:54):
don't even know what you signed up for. It means
you don't respect the system and you don't respect Winning
only mean something because the judges critique you. If the
judges told everyone they were amazing winning, it would mean
nothing like it means something because these judges pull you apart.
They really scrutinize you. And I think that I'm always

(01:14:15):
going to offend dry queens, of course, but the judges
are just doing their job. It is really not personal.
It's not all that deep, you know. Definitely. Did you
ever feel some type of way when you were being judged?
Oh yeah, of course every time. That's what I mean.
I come to at this from a place of I
know what it's like to get a critique you don't
want and feel victimized, like I felt that way. I'm

(01:14:39):
trying to think, like to be honest, on season seven,
when I went home fourth. I thought it was bogus.
I thought it was extremely bogus, and I was really
vocal about it in interviews. I was like, no, bogus.
Thinking back, do I think that helped me at all? No?
But in my world at the time you're feeling it,
me felt I felt, oh, that was not fair. I
did better than that. But now watching it back, I'm like, girl,

(01:15:01):
you were nothing special and you made a lot of
mistakes in this episode. Let me tell you when I
lost Little Mister Detroit nineteen seventy two, I was like,
fuck off judges and so, and I regret that still
to this day. Okay. The challenge winner was Sasha Kobe.
She wins a cash prize of five thousand dollars and
moves on to the grand finale. Lux New Are London

(01:15:22):
was safe and she moves on to the Grand Finale.
The bottom two were Nietra and Mistress Isabel Brooks. They
had to lip sync to the song when Love Takes
Over A Bob, A Bob, Bob, it's bob. The kids say, yeah,
it's a bob. I mean Kelly Roland, David Getta went
up there and put their pussys in that track. It's amazing.

(01:15:43):
It was a great song. And you know, I was
so afraid because I was like, oh, mistress is going home?
What's like here? Well, RuPaul decided from the first time
this season, no one is gonna go home. It's gonna
be Top four, Grand Finale. There you go. Chat. I
couldn't believe it when I tell you, my wig flew

(01:16:06):
the chat. When I tell you, I had no way
of her seeing this. I was sitting on the couch. Girl,
Look at you. You just are as tickled by this
as I am. I was sitting on the couch watching this,
and I turned to my partner David, and I said,
I swear to God, David, if this one of these
people does not go home, I'm going to levitate out
of this house. No, no, I feel better. I got up.

(01:16:29):
I saw the Top four. I got up. I opened
the front door of my house. I lit up the joint,
and I just said, it is what it is, Sis, Like,
this is Rue Paul's world and we all live in it.
And if she says I'm sending people home, you better
at least act like you think that's happening. All right,
don't go far because after the break, our special guest
has some slaying to do, and she did. My interview

(01:16:51):
with Lucy Leduca is next Loose Baby, and we're back.
Our guest today is one of the thirty seven Connecticut
Queen's first season fifteen. But she is beautiful, funny, talented

(01:17:13):
and can impersonate the house down. But most importantly, I
hope she is ready to let lose. Please welcome Lucy
la Duca. Hello, Lucy Hils Lonnie. How are you? I
am excellent? You know Alec is booked in Blast. He
is on a boat telling jokes, but he couldn't be
here today, but he wanted me to tell you hello

(01:17:35):
at congratulations on a great sea. Can I tell you something,
Lucy please? Jon Rivers killed it, Dolly Parton killed it,
Ripper to shreds, you just killed it? Okay. How has
life been since becoming a rude girl? First of all,
thank you so much for the amazing compliments. My life

(01:17:57):
has been wonderful. It's been a big change people. I'm
sure I don't necessarily talk about how the adjustment of
traveling so much is really really a big change. Definitely,
And it's like, you know, I do get homesick pretty easily.
So that's been a little tough for me. I have
a little stuffed version of my dog so that I

(01:18:17):
bring around with me. That kind of helps me out.
But it's been wonderful, and my favorite thing has been
meeting people from all over the country and it just
makes me feel so loved that people would spend money
on a ticket to take a picture with me and
meet me and hug me, and I really feel the love.
It's really been amazing. You know, it's the best fielding

(01:18:40):
in the world, Lucy. I mean, I know what it's like,
and I can relate totally about the whole traveling situation.
But when you see those faces, and you know, just
to think that someone is getting out of their house,
putting on clothes just to come and see you, it
does make you feel really, really good. Talk to us
about your experience on Drag Race. Do you have a

(01:19:02):
favorite memory? My first answer is definitely Snatch Game. I
had been preparing for Snatch Game so much, and I
did stand up shows as Jane for several years before
I did Drag Race, and so I've been writing comedy
in the style of Joanes for so long, and I

(01:19:23):
feel like I blocked out when I finally was on
that set. You know, RU said Joan Rivers is here,
and then I just motor mouth. I just every single
joke I couldn't think of. I just let it go.
And that was probably the most memorable time on set.
I just felt right. You know, it was like, take

(01:19:45):
us back to that moment, because I just felt like
you were just in the groove of it. I mean,
was it like that during the taping. Absolutely? Yeah. I
you know, improv is one of my strongest skills, and
then I'm a student of Joan Rivers, and so I
know that I can sort of just switch into this
mode where I think as Joan, and so I just

(01:20:07):
was like, whatever comes out of my mouth, I'm sure
it's something that Joan would say, and so I just
guided up. I just kind of let myself go and
I trusted my gut and it worked out. Take us
back to when you first heard that you got on
Drag Race. What was that feeling like and when did
you get the news? It was incredible. I was walking
my incredible dog, Rocco, who I talked about every five seconds.

(01:20:31):
I was walking my dog Rocco. And this sounds made up,
but I swear it's not Lonnie. I was walking in
front of the elementary school that I went to when
I got that call. And I got the call and
they said, Lucy, you've been cast on RuPaul's Drag Race
season fifteen. And I went no, no, I said, I said,

(01:20:54):
there's more to the process, and they went, no, there isn't. Oh,
oh my god. It was so surreal it was. And I,
you know, I still live in a small town that
I grew up in and to be in front of
the elementary school that I went to, wow, where I
used to make kids laugh, and to get that call
was just incredible in it it felt amazing after all

(01:21:17):
these years of doing Drive, because I have been doing
Drive for eighty seven and a half years now. So
the experience showed, I mean because I felt like during
the episodes you could tell you were ready. You were
you know, did you come in with a game plan
when you knew once you got there? Did you have
a game plan? I think my game plan was just

(01:21:39):
to be as prepared as I possibly could be. The
amount of stuff that I brought lotting when when people
would leave, I would immediately take over their station unpack
six more boxes of hair. I brought everything. My strategy

(01:22:01):
was just to be prepared and to trust my gut
because it's gotten me as far as it has, and
it certainly worked out for the best. I mean it
really has. Lucy. You know, this is the thing. Your
comedy is on point, your impersonation skills on point. Thank
you so much. And the rusical, I think that really

(01:22:22):
was the peak for me seeing you as Heaven Bacon.
What did it feel like to have Kevin Bacon the
Kevin Bacon praise you on the rusical for wig Loos? Well,
first of all, I think that Kevin Bacon noticing me
at all is probably the best moment of my mom's
entire life. You know, she's got four kids, she's an

(01:22:47):
incredible career woman. But I think that Kevin Bacon knowing
who I am, I think that was her crowning achievement really,
and like that was incredible and he seems like such
I don't know if if you've met him, but i'm
social media. He just seems so real. He is so cool,
rounded and so cool, and so to get a shout
out from him was really incredible and very validating. And

(01:23:10):
also he's an ally that's true. Thrue that's true through
So that was an awesome moment and I loved being
able to I'm so happy that I fought for that
part and that I got to show people that i
really love to do choreography because I'm a theater girl. Definitely,
you can tell you are. You know, you're a theater
and a comedy girl, and you know, talking about fighting

(01:23:31):
for that role. There was this playfulness between you and Luks,
a competitive playfulness. And also with Selena, have you been
able to talk to any of the queens and kind
of like say, you know, hey, this was this, but
now we're good. Oh yeah, I mean specifically Selena. Selena
is actually one of my closest friends from the show,

(01:23:53):
and every time I'm in la I have dinner with her,
I've met her wonderful family. Selena is an incredibly supportive person,
and we're also the same age. In the in the
world of drag Race, we're ancient, and so you know,
we're an ancient thirty two years of age, and so

(01:24:14):
I think that we have a sort of similar view
on life and where we are and how long it
took us to get to where we are. And so
she's really a wonderful friend of mine. Oh, I'm so
happy to hear that. What was it like competing with
your other Connecticut drag sisters? You know, it was great
to have him there. And not to sound self centered,

(01:24:35):
but it was. It was hey girl, good to see
you game on. Okay, okay, it was I didn't see
them any differently than I saw anybody else. It was
just you know what, hey girl, hey girl, let's let's
do this the thing. You know, love them, love them,
But I was focused on winning. O my goodness, I

(01:24:59):
feel you. You know now during this season you opened
up about growing up in your hometown and people making
fun of you, including a teacher, and you still live there,
like you just told me talk to us about that.
And do you feel like you know you've made a
point of showing that you can be successful through drag.
Absolutely I do, and I think that telling my story

(01:25:23):
has been really important, much more important than I ever thought.
I just figured I'm being my authentic self because that's
the only version of myself I know how to be.
What I didn't know is that I was going to
get thousands I'm not exaggerating thousands of messages from people

(01:25:44):
who I am getting emotional about it who relate to
my story and said that they felt like they were
seeing themselves represented on screen. And that means everything to
me because it means that I went through all of
that for a reason, and that I get to be

(01:26:05):
the person who tells people that it doesn't matter where
you grew up, that you owe it to yourself to
live as authentically as you need to because that's the
healthiest thing to do. And no one should ever tell
you that the way you act or sound or live

(01:26:26):
your life is wrong. You are absolutely right. I mean,
this is why we love drag Race, Lucy because of
you know, we get to meet talented people like you.
You would think after season fifteen, oh it might get old,
it might get No, it's just a refreshment, and you
were so refreshing. I just want you to know that.

(01:26:49):
Thank you so much, Lonnie. I really, really really hope
that you understand that that you were a part of
this season that was so memorable and all of your
characters it was just on point. So I hope that
you relish that more than anything else, because now you
can move on to the future with your performing and

(01:27:12):
everything that you're doing. I hope you understand and take
that in. You know. Now on a happier note, your
song let Loose that you perform in the Talent Show
is blowing up. Honey, that performance didn't go the way
you wanted it too, So how did it feel now
seeing it take off? Yeah? I mean on Spotify a
couple days ago, we hit one hundred thousand screams in

(01:27:34):
a couple of days. And that's just on spot By.
It's trending on TikTok. I'm getting videos of people performing
drag Queen's performing it all over the world, Lonnie. I've
got videos from Poland, from Germany. I got a video
from Africa this morning. Oh my really, Yes, yes, it's

(01:27:58):
been I will not pretend to know how the internet works,
So I don't know why two months later the song
has blown up. But I mean, I'm thrilled. It's a
song that I wanted to do for over ten years.
My very good friend and music partner, Andrew Barrett Cox
wrote and produced the song for me. He also wrote

(01:28:20):
and produced Jantity for Jan on All Stars and also
wrote and produced Lemon Song on Canada. And we've had
this idea since we were college kids in Boston a
decade ago, and so to be able to do it
and then have the world love it, it's crazy and
I'm just like, all right, well, I guess my booking

(01:28:40):
fee just went up. If they want me to do
leto let him know, get that coin, baby, get that coin.
Everyone is lip syncing and Marsha, Marsha, Marsha Alaska. You know,
it's a bob, you know, if that's that's what the
kids call it. It's a bob. It's a bob. It's
a bob. Lining Oh, I love it, you know. Lucy

(01:29:01):
Alec always says drag is like a superpower and superhero identity.
What would your drag superpower be? Ooh? I think that
my drag superpower. I think it's it's almost kind of
like being psychic, because I think that my superpower in
and out am drag, to be honest, is that I

(01:29:23):
could look at somebody, have a quick conversation with them,
and I automatically know how to make them laugh. I
can go, oh, yep, all right, this is how to
do it. I loves my superpower. I think I think
laughter is my superpower. I love that and we need
more of that, Lucy, you know, what's next for you? Well,

(01:29:43):
with the success of Let Loose, I certainly am gonna
perform some more music, release some more music. I believe
I'm going to do. We actually announced it a couple
of days ago. We're coming out with an extended remix
of Let Loose. Yes to give the kids even more
to let loo too. And I really would love to
tour as Joan. I think that's a huge career goal

(01:30:08):
of mine. Yes, yes, I just would loved it because
we need her back, you know, I did. She had
a podcast called in Bed with Joan Rivers and when
every episode, oh, Mike, Lucy. That's why I just automatically,
you know, relate it to you because I felt her

(01:30:28):
presence in you. I mean, you had her mannerisms, her
with her quickness. It was just awesome. And that would
be an awesome tour to do, so please, you know,
work on that. Where can people find you on social media? Lucy?
They can find me on every social media at Lucy Laduca,
Lucy Laduca. You know you should do a line of

(01:30:49):
shoes with Laduca. Well, if someone can tweet at Laduca
right now, right here, right now, Okay, get that sponsorship going.
I love that you know what's girlfriends you heard, go ahead,
make it happen. We can do that, Lucy, thank you
so much for taking time out of your schedule to
come in and talk to squirrel friends. It's been awesome

(01:31:10):
and congratulations you had a wonderful season fifteen. Thank you
so much, Lonnie. I will be back anytime. Thank you,
Bye bye bye, and we're back with my special guest
co host, Trixie Mattel. Now Trixie for the final fabulous

(01:31:33):
Top four. Who are your favorites? Okay, my personal favorite?
I think Anietra is flawless. And you know that mistress
that face works my pussy out unparalleled. It is amazing,
it's amazing. Well, you know what. I was proud to
have you joined me today in place of Alec. Thank

(01:31:55):
you so much for your time. I know you're busy.
Where can we catch you? Where can we catch the shows?
What's going on? Here's your time? Let us know, mama.
Oh my gosh. Well, if you have the internet, if
you haven't seen me on YouTube at this point, you're
actively avoiding me. You're blocking me like bron You know
queens who like to watch a Netflix US And it's
eight season the ball in the beautiful podcast is perfect

(01:32:17):
for a commute if you like two unhinged, bald homosexuals screaming. Otherwise, please,
you know more than supporting me at this time, I
can't implore you more to walk down the street and
tip a drag Queen of Dollar, write a letter to
a representative like drag is so special and drag race,
on one hand, gave us this amazing economy and art

(01:32:39):
form to talk about, but it's also made drag visible
enough that people have a problem with it. And so
it's the double edged sword of drag being so big
now is people are going to try to push us
back in that dressing room, and performers of drag, supporters
of drag, we just have to be as rational and
loud as ever. Don't cut anybody off in your life.

(01:33:02):
Have those weird conversations with your homophobic uncle or your
transphobic mom, or have these conversations, and just be an
ally to this art forum that means so much to me.
I love you. I am contestant number eight, Ambert Atkins,
thank you, thank you so much. Tricksivitel and like she said,
remember to tip your queens, show them some love. On socials.

(01:33:24):
Don't forget to tweet us or dm us if you
have questions or hot takes at Alec Mappo on Instagram,
at comic Lonnie Love on Instagram, and at Lonnie Love
on Twitter. You can listen to Squirrel Friends, the Official
Rutpaul's Drag Race Podcast on the iHeart Radio apple Ware
ever you get your podcast and if you like this episode,
make sure to rate and review us five stars please
and tell a friend. Be sure to watch all new

(01:33:46):
episodes of Ruth Paul's Drag Race Season fifteen every Friday
on MTV. Alec and I will be back next time
for all new episode of Squirrel Friends, the Official RuPaul's
Drag Race Podcast. See two. Thanks Tricksie, dah bet you
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