I Think I'm Really Gonna Love It Here (S1 EP 32 "Suspicious Minds" Season Finale)

Alison turns to booze, Billy's down BAD, and Jo's in jail...90 minutes of Melrose madness makes for quite a climactic recap! Plus, talk about a season two teaser when Amanda Woodward marks her territory by putting her money where her mouth is. If that's not season finale material, we don't know what is!  Tune in for some primetime perspective hosted by Laura, Daphne, and Courtney because after all, this is "Still the Place!"

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Welcome back to our finale, the episode first season.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, so that makes this, just for the listeners, the
last episode of our podcast for the year.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Yeah, thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
We did the entire first season that we talked about
constantly about how long it was, and we did every
single episode, so you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, and this episode is actually longer, so that I
talk about that, it's like an I think it's an
hour and a half.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
I was surprised when I was watching it that it
was an hour and a half, you know, ultimate episode.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
So yes, and maybe's a great job.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I thought of having everybody, like every storyline was a
part of this episode, which was super flawed.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Happened in this.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Everybody has something pretty big happening. So let's jump right
in because it is a long wait. So in this
ninety minute season finale, let's say just a general summary,
Amanda's pending promotion to become vice president of D and
D is put in jeopardy because of her pregnancy, and meanwhile,
Allison's old boyfriend Keith suddenly returns to la and when

(01:22):
he sees Alison with Billy, he sends her anonymous threatening
mail and attacks Billy. Meanwhile, Allison is drowning her fear
and her feelings with alcohol. Joe is getting arrested for
carrying a concealed weapon while she and Jak are trying
to decide whether or not to live together, and the
gang is also learning that the Melrose Place apartment building
is put up for sale.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, that was weird to see that for sale sign
out front. Like so many scenes.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, talk about cliffhangers, and then Rond and Terrence finally
makeup decide to go through with their wedding. Michael convinces
Jane to go on a romantic wedding week getaway, He
pleads for her forgiveness, and then Kimberly ends up spilling
the news to Jane that Michael is not ending things with.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Kimberly after all.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
So okay, all of that said, so much going on,
But we open with Billy in the apartments. But the
first thing we see is, of course, the Dartmouth soccer poster.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
On his wall.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Notice that that's so cute, so cute.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
And he's sitting on his bed thinking first thing in
the morning he gets up, he knocks on Alison's bedroom
door because of course they're sleeping in their own rooms,
gosh darn it, and he wakes her. He wakes up
Allison and tells her that he hasn't slept and that
Amanda's pregnancy is really pulling him and Alison apart, and
Alison says, much to my frustration, I don't know what

(02:40):
you want from me?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, Alison is not well. Well.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
A good question though, because he's like, I'm now I
want to take care of Amanda because she's pregnant with
our baby, and yet I want you to not have
any feelings and still be my friend. And she's like,
what do you want from me? It's like he wants everything.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, I have no problem with that. I had a
part with this when she pulls out a stack of
letters from Keith.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
And said, which, by the way, did she kept by
her bedside, her bedside stock of him?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's what I feel. It was kind of passive aggressive
and let's just say it bitchy.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Oh and also just weird, like why.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I saw the crops team going is this good? Is
this in frame?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Is this close enough?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
The director going closer closer? Is this good right up
her left nostril. Yeah, let's put the stack of letters
right there.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And then I say about this boyfriend I left and
must let her remind you that he was married when
we met. The point is he doesn't waiver, he doesn't
get confused, he doesn't want anyone else. He just wants me.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Well kind of yeah, But I have bigger complaints about
the scene and drop, like I was really confused, Like, wait,
what is it that Allison doesn't Alison still.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Want Billy, Like, isn't that because I feel like in
the scene, he's saying I still.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Want this to work. I didn't sleep at all.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
I feel like this, you know, pregnancy of Amanda's is
getting in the way of us and I want this,
and Alison is sort of saying, well, I guess I
could offer you friendship, but that's about it. And so
I'm like, wait, why, Alison, why don't you want.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
To fight for the backs off right away away from
what she really wants.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, first toward each other at the same time, it's
very frustrating.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
So I was I was frustrated with the disconnect here
because last episode I thought Alison was like, please still
pick me, even though I understand you have to, you know,
handle this pregnancy and stuff with sensitivity and thoughtfulness and
all that, like pick me. But now she's not, so
I'm frustrated with her anyway too. I thought it was

(04:41):
a lovely scene for Andrew. Yes, very very grounded and
dealt with the stupid letters by Alison's bedside with honorable grace.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You mean that pile like right next to where you sleep?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I know, she said, I have all these letters. She goes, yes,
I have noticed.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, we know he's been sending you one a week. Weirdo.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
They're not in a drawer or in her desk.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So then we cut.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
We cut to Michael, who's waking up on the pull
out couch and he and Jean's apartment, and he's wearing
a Frudian state T shirt. Did you guys notice that
if it's this Almah matter, which I thought was hysterical,
good on you, Denise.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
And he's finishing up a phone call where he learns
that they're selling the building and he shares the news
with Jane.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
She's not really warm to him in this scene.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
She's real acting like this will be great, it'll be
a fresh start. She's not into it because she's like, well,
just to remind you, you've been cheating on me, dude.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, And so he's so callous about everyone, what about
well will everyone do?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
She says? You know, and like it's amazing these guys
are even together.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'm really seeing in this episode how she's so full
of compassion and emotion and sensitivity and he is so
like sociopathically disconnected.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, who cares? Who cares about everybody?

Speaker 5 (05:57):
She's she's great in this episode because she stays firmly
on track on her through line, like this is.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Not going to be easy. You may not get what
you want, don't you know?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
My husband's cheated on me. I caught him cheating. And
he's you know, I'm giving him the smallest of chances.
He can sleep on the couch, but I'm not, you know,
being all warm and fuzzy. He's trying to be affectionate
and normal with her, and she's like, uh no, it's
not going to change anything.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, she's finally tough. At the end of this scene,
there's this beautiful shot where she opens the door and
you see the courtyard beautifully.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeh, and the sky scrimmed.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, really too bad. It was so great, great for
a while.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
It's a great line, and it's it ends up being
sort of bookended by the end of our episode, but
it is great for Jane to just like reflect on
Melroe's place and what it's you know, how beautiful it
is and how it would be such a shame.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, it was really really cool.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I think it was a little gift for the audience too,
because it's the the audience is finale, and what I'm
really getting having watched this whole first season again is
how much the audience was invested, whether they wanted to
ring the next of these character or some of them
like I did and still do, or if you're rooting
for one character or the other and you love them altogether.

(07:08):
That line was I thought it was like a little
love note to the audience, like, oh, so great for
a while, you know, like we.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Just don't know what's so sad.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It ended here when the ratings are finally going up.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
It was so great when we were struggling, things were
just starting to look up.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
And so then we cut to Alison D and D
where she meets a creative executive named Brett Nelson.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
He's a character who's going to come into play.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Also in this scene, Amanda talks to Allison very sincerely.
I thought that she never expected or wanted her pregnancy,
but she says to Alison and what she really needs
right now as a friend, which I thought was very
sweet moment between the two of them.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I did not I discovered through al Amanda through this
whole episode she's so self centered. She has just the
same way that Alison doesn't ask for what she wants
or say how she really feels. Amanda has no issue
with the smiles, always asking for what she wants.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Don't you think she has nerve to say to Alison,
I really need a friend through all this? Do you
think you can do that?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I just felt like whiplash to me. And I think
Allison says that, I'm like, I'll do my best, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
What she's asking is not easy for Allison for sure, and.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
It's unfair and it's very self centered.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And I just found, like you'll watch with that note,
Like every scene Amanda's just like what I need, what
I need, what I need, what I need.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
But I will say more importantly, Allison is wearing a
beautiful fitted suit, lovely fitted Denise Wingate, thank you very
very much.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Moderate and reasonable shoulders.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Absolutely so great to watch this having just had Denise
Wingate on and talking about all the wardrobe enter process
and now I just see the scenes in the wardrobe
totally differently fantastic.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
So then the two ladies are invited into Lucy's office
where they learned that Lucy, the VP of the company,
is leaving and it opens up the opportunity for Amanda
to move into that VP position at Alison also to
be promoted. So Lucy then reminds them right then that
teamwork between them is going to be key and it's

(09:17):
an opportunity for both of them. And that Brett Nelson,
the guy that we just met, he's the other guy
being considered for the top VP.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Who, by the way, very handsome, which is important to
the episode, yeah, and just important to us.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
And he's already been a little flirty with Alison.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
A little rat like to me, and he's adorable, hair
comes out of like nowhere, and he's just like all
in her business.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Suddenly it just kind of well, I was definitely suspect
just because he was already flirty. So I'm like, okay,
this is going somewhere, and so.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
You guys really have a problem with people liking Alison.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Well, it just it was just a clue that something
more important was coming with him anyway. So we cut
to a scene at the hospital where Kimberly and Michael
are walking together and she asks him if he was
sincere about saying that he misses her, and he says, yes,

(10:12):
but he can't know you about how.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I love how cavalier he is. Yes, but there's nothing
I can do about it. Like he's so logical, right,
And she's.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like, seems really cold to me.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
What are the new rules, because I don't want to
lose you, You're my best friend in the hospital.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, they're like, well there's nothing we can do, you know.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
And she was unusually accepting of this from him, right
because we didn't see her really get angry. When he's like, Nope,
can't do anything about it. You know, I need to
deal with my marriage or whatever, and I need some time,
she's like okay, which is sort of a change from
what we saw before where she got sort of angry,
where when he you know, changed his mind about the affair.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Now she's like okay, yeah, well we.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Can't trust either of them at all.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Right, So then Jane is hanging out with Joe in
the park, sharing that Michael has canceled their marriage counseling
appointment for that evening, and Jane confides in Joe that
she's just so angry, doesn't even know what to believe,
and feels like her marriage isn't going to make it
without trust, and she's crying and very multiple.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
I really it's like walk and talk in a playground,
which I thought was cool.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
That just like the therapist of this episode, you're you're
everybody's shoulder to cry on.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Why didn't you think she was a very silent I
guess therapist is supposed to be quiet. The're supposed to
listen more than I give advice.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So I think what I thought Joe was doing, like
I think she do not have any advice for her.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
But I think it was a good place for Jane
to put her emotions, and Joe was really listening, and
the question she asked her is do you still love him?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
And I found that it was a really nice to
show how important it is for girlfriends best girlfriends who
were just there for each other, literally a shoulder to
cry on. Which she did kind of at the end,
and just there for each other and how power all
those kinds of relationships are.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, And I like in this scene that Jane finally
gets mad and she says she would like to kick
his ass, Like she finally you feel that the anger
is starting to come up and she's getting aggressive, which
feels so good.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And Joe also reassured her like, hey, you didn't do
anything wrong. You have not failed. You know you have
done anything wrong?

Speaker 4 (12:18):
He failed.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, she's I think she's very sweet and comforting and
says all the right things. It's just what Jane needs
in this moment. Simwhere back at D and D, where
Amanda's on the phone with Billy inviting him over for
dinner after work, like all of a sudden, you know,
it's just assuming the position again, and Alison is overhearing us,
and of course she's upset.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Exactly what I said two seconds ago, she said, will
you be my friend? Alison? And now what she needs is, oh, Billy,
you're coming out, No, just have pizza with me tonight.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Like yeah, So I'm confused.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Why all of a sudden there's an assumption like Billy
is juggling these two women in an equal way, Like
I didn't think that's where we left it last episode,
but now, all of a sudden, that's what it feels like.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
It My notes are like, isn't he agreeing to be
a part of this child that she's choosing to have
That doesn't happen for nine months?

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Why are they pretending to.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Be mommy and daddy together? What's pizza now or getting
together at.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
All have to do with being a part of his child?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Like they don't have to do any of it. So
but it's just Amanda using this time to again get
what she wants, get what she wants.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, it's also the Billie's not exactly setting up the boundary,
like he's allowing himself to be in the position to
be choosing between these two women, which I didn't think
that was ever on the table, and now it sort
of is. It's just a different framing of what's going
on for him. And I'm frustrated that Allison isn't more
angry about it.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Instead she's like conveniently.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Going, well, maybe Keith is a better bet for me,
and we're all going no, no.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
She never once says the baby isn't here yet. You're
not trying to be part of Amanda's life, You're trying
to be there for the baby, Like why are you
insisting on spending all this time with Amanda? Like we
just had a night together, We're finally a couple. That's
what I just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
No, you're right, she should say weird.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
So to make things more complicated, Brett Nelson, the new
creative exec that we meet at D and D. He's
telling Allison that she's been doing such great work and oh, yeah,
will you have a drink with me tonight? I have
a feeling we might be a lot alike. So they
make play.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Elson, of course, super vulnerable because Billy and Amanda just
made a date. She says yes, yep.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Right right, and there's all over her phone.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, and it's unclear like is this only a date
or is it a date and a work thing?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
And apparently it's going to be both.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I also, this is.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
The circular scared staircase, which I yeah, so great, so dated, very.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Like of the era. You know, they're going up that
circular staircase in D and D and he's like, hey, hey,
you want to get a drink with me after?

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Well, that's circular staircase in D and D is iconic,
and like I thought, it was so clever of James Frawley,
who directed this episode to stage the second half of
the scene halfway up the stairs and he stops her
and he's just below on the stairs and do you
remember do you remember using that stairway because I'm like,
that looks treacherous, especially in heels, and you have to like.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Especially blocking on it.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Imber it.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, because they built it again in the two thousand
and nine reboot. They built a circular staircase again, and
I remember using it and going, oh gosh, this is treacherous.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's so of that era of like the seventies and eighties, nineties,
I know, but it was very retro.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
So from there we cut to a hotel lobby where
Keith is checking in a hotel in la and he's
telling the front desk that he's here to proposet to
his girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
It's what she always wanted it.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
He says, creepy, that's a creepy.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Isn't this the first time in this I think in
the whole series that you get that he's turned. He's
now creepy because he's delusional on this. We see him
checking in I'm gonna propose my girlfriend, and he was the.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Audience go what yeah, Oh, definitely a shocking turn of
weird event.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
And then it made me think all those letters that
she had by her bedside, had she been answering them
that she got once.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
A week She said she didn't to me, they didn't
look opened.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
And yeah, I think she said in that first thing
that she hadn't been answering them. So he's definitely giving
creepy vibes. And the music cues match because like they're
always a little bit like foreboding.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
So we cut to Shooters because it's the only bar
in town where Alison and Brett are enjoying martiniz talking
and laughing about Amanda.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I would like to say, we finally meet drunk Allison,
who is my favorite Alison. No, this is not the
end when it all starts to fall apart. This is
the beginning of drunk Alison, when she's super happy. Just
like I was, like, that's my best performance in this series.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, I think there's I said. It's so nice to
see Alison gleefully getting tipsy and just filling the beans
and not caring about who she's talking about.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, gossiping about Amanda.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
And there's also a spectrum.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
This is this is the upside. This is the beginning
of the treacherous journey.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Because there's I think we see tipsy Alison, we see
drunk Allison, and we see slashed Allison. Like we see
all the versions on the spectrum of this for her.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Get fun loose Alison. This is usually lets it slip
that Amanda is pregnant.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Whoopsie.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, and you see the light bulb.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
I won't tell anyone what else. Yeah, he claims he
won't tell anyone, but he is. Light bulb definitely went
off and we're like oh.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
And he walks her back to the apartment.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Saying, you know, hey, I think we could you know,
make a really great team at work.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And he leans in and he kisses her on the
cheek before he leaves her at her door.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
And all of this, of course, is witnessed by Billy
as Billy is returning.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Home, coming home from by the way, his date with Amanda,
so yeah, shut up, but.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
He follows her into the apartment. Billy comes in and says, Alison,
what the hell is going on? Who is that guy,
what is he doing kissing you and tipsy? Allison says, yes,
he's just living her life.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, and she's got the drunk munchy. She goes right
to the freezer of ice cream.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Needs ice cream, and Billy exclaims and disgust you're drunk.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
And she's I just love how she's putting off her
clothes and she's like half Billy because usually she's so
serious with Billy, you know, like yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Billy, and she's like, where's the munchies?

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I love it?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yep, very cute.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
And then back at the Bellage Hotel, Keith is creepily
setting up a display on his nightstand of framed photos
of he and Allison together.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And did he notice there eight by ten publicity shots.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I was gonna.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Headshot.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
They're not like casual and it's I'm fully posed.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
It all lit room this emergency asked and you're like this,
that's the iconic and it's like we see that on
every there are.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
The publicity shots from the show.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
But the creepiest part is the voiceover. The echoing voiceover.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Is him thinking out loud for us to hear, because
in case we don't know that it's creepy enough.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
He's thinking through his voiceover, why did you leave me? Allison?

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I was so good to you, Like we're not going
to actually realize it's creepy and last night's sweetheart.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
And then he says you and he kisses the phono
and says good.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's so gross, creepy, creepy, fantastically gross. So then we
cut to Run and Matt, who are fast walking down
the street to be honest, distract.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Speed walking walking. They're using walking. They're using their army too,
wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
They're using their arms really well, very.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Sign of the times. It's not like now you go
for a walk to get your steps in. Yeah, it
was like a thing.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Back then and you have to go almost running but
not quite big arms.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah yeah, either.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
That or they were ahead of their times by getting
their steps in. But it was so distracted by it
that I barely heard what they were talking about, although
it was something saren.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, like how she wants to marry him whatever.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
But I had to go back and listen twice because
the first time I was like just watching the.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Just watching them walk in her little walking outfit, so cool,
But you only see him a couple times in this episode,
and both times are talking about Terrence again.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Both times you're walking a couple of walking talks. If
they've decided that Ronda and Matt would be walking and
walking and talking.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
They're very thin, very swelt, very fast.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
So Ronda has decided she's ready to marry Terrence, but
is too shy to ask him.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
And when they end their walk, they end up at
the building where they discover that force sales sign in
front of the building. They're shocked, and they learned from
the real estate person that the property is being foreclosed.
So back at Allison and Billy's apartment, Alison in the
morning is saying that she regrets getting quite so drunk
the night before, but she is glad to learn that

(20:57):
Billy was jealous to see her with the guy at
the door lest night. Billy says, you know, everything is
so messed up. Maybe I don't have a right to
be jealous. But Alison sort of goes on to say
she should have seen this coming. Maybe she has a
genetic aversion to happiness, and she's got her dark.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Cloud over her time victim mode. She's in big, big victim.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Mode, and and I'm a little confused by that reaction,
but she's just feeling like everything's dark and does she
want Billy or not? I can't figure that out anyway.
That's when Rond and Matt knock on the door. They
share the news about the building, and Alison decides that
that's one more piece of information that proves.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
That her life sucks.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, because all happened to her yep.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
So she leaves for work and Billy follows her outside
and tells her he doesn't want her to feel this bad,
and they hug, and then we hear the scary music
again and we see creepy Keith witnessing this hug from
where he is parked stalking them across the street, watching
from his car.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, creepy.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
It was this blatant.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Zero apology by their writers, and the director is just
going like, we're gonna keep having our horror movie setups
like it happens a few times throughout where something happens
and we're seeing you know, Alison and about you know,
whether it's Billy or whoever, and you always see Keith
watching through the blinds or from behind the bush, and
it does add up.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
It's like horror movie.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
It is sort of a callback because remember when we
were like skeptical when Allison got attacked in the car,
and then we're like, to Keith really set that up
so we could swoop in and be the hero, And yeah,
we're sort of seeing that same pattern in this episode.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm just saying, good point.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
So back at D and D and a staff meeting,
Lucy asks that everyone hold off on vacations until she's gone,
and Brett uses the opportunity to bring up, well, what
about Amanda's maternity leave? Oh no, everyone including Lucy is
surprised Amanda. Amanda is like all smiley, brilliantly lying through

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her teeth, and she says she doesn't know what Brett
is talking about.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, it's news to me. However, she looks at Alison. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
After the meeting, she demands that Allison and her speaking private,
and she tells telling Brett about her pregnancy was a
huge mistake and that now.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Alison completely gaslights her and says, you're blowing it out
of proportion. Also, I can't believe he said anything, right,
what about you? Allison?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
My favorite Discovery apology? Allison, my favorite Discovery.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yes, so I told him, but in this private place
that they're can I talk to you in private? And
they go to this big, huge public bathroom.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
It is echoing in case you can't hear it now,
but the wide shot you get to see what Allison's wearing,
a nineteen forties, you know, suit, skirt down to her ankle,
polka dots with his neckline up to hear. And then
of course.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Amanda in the shortest skirt ever with this like almost
brawl ass top and you're just like, there it is.
That's Denise Wingate's work right there.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, dichotomy is bro It's a very dialish suit, but
it was a lot of fabric on you compared to her, and.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I was just like, that's the difference.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Well here, Amanda also warns Allison that if you know,
nobody's going to want to promote a pregnant woman, which
you know may be true, and also you know Allison
has something to lose here too, because the promotion will
work for both of them if they can get it,
and that she warns her that Allison shouldn't trust anything
Brett may have promised her.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
So it's a little bit of a foreshadowing there.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
So then Allison is angry, she confronts Bretton's office, telling
him he shouldn't have exposed amanda secret, and Brett says
he thinks they could be a team, a great team
in more ways than one, and then he tries to
kiss her in the most awkward and aggressive way in
his office.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, really weird.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
And did you notice he went his hand went for
the door to cut I thought it was implying that
he locked it, and then he went at lune did her?
And yet then she says, get away, get away, put
fights away, and then just opens the door and leave.
But I had to watch that again to go is
he pretending to lock it?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
It was very fumbly, awkward aggressive?

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, yeah, it was very But Alison's creet, super furious,
shoves him off and angrily leaves the office. And then
we cut to Amanda and Billy who are going for
a walk in the park, probably the same park, and
here though we see a bunch.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Of children they're playing in the background.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
And you mean probably the same park as Joe And yeah, yeah, probably,
I'm assuming they shot him on the same day that
and Amanda is telling Billy that Allison is telling everyone
about the pregnancy and that she should be more respectful.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
That Billy says he'll talk to her.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, it wasn't that weird that Billy is a'll talk
to her. So now he's literally between them. Let me
manage Allison to make your life more comfortable.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
He's really See this is.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Where I just wanted to jump in the damn frame
and say, you guys, you're not a couple.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
The baby isn't here yet. You just slept.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Together and you don't get him.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, it is really like a couple. It is really
like the ex girlfriend. But for some reason this situation,
he's kind of assuming that he's back. It's a pickle
between the two and he's walking this tightrope in between
and it's it's a very strange theme throughout the episode.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And don't forget Amanda just said to Alison, you know
you should be on my side. I need you, you know,
for the promotion. It serves you too, and then boom,
next scene, she's like, you know, you need to talk
to Alison, take care of her because I don't like
how she's talking so much.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
It's just like she constantly does that, Amanda.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
And she also in the scene doubles down on like
I really want this opportunity to become a mom, even
though I really want my promotion at work. I also
I realize that I don't want to miss out on
this opportunity and have made my decision. So we find
out firmly that she is, you know, committed to becoming
a mom.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
And then back at the office, Allison a pa jaysus
to Amanda, tells her she was right about Brett after
being attacked in the office, and she tells her, you
were right about everything. He sucks and I'm totally behind you,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Let's go for it. Let's go back to being a
team and you know, get this promotion together.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And Amanda just agrees immediately that we go back and
forth so fast in this episode. We hate each other,
we love each other, we hate each other. So now
Amanda and Allison are backup firmly on the same team.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's very strange, Like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
A minute later, let's time it.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Yeah, I don't get to see enough of like what
does Alison really want?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Like is she fighting for Billy here?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
It's almost yeah, her whiplash isn't fair to have to
try to play that, to try to play confusing.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, it's fair.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
What is my three line here? That's the question I
was asking myself anyway. But with Joe and Jake, they're
returning to Jake's at night, and Joe is lamenting having
to leave Meloe's place the building, and Jake suggests that
maybe if they do have to leave the building, they
could find a new place to living together.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, and I loved how they come in together. He's
carrying groceries. They go into his apartment and.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
He's like, he's looking gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
The hair was particularly good, T shirt, and I'm just like, yes,
move in together.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
She and Joe's all like growlly and frowny and like.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
No, Wow, I was having an Alison day.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
She's feeling like Alison. She's feeling Alison, and I just
want to reach through and go Joe. It doesn't get
better than this.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Move in with him. He's gonna take care of you.
You're gonna be in love, have beautiful children. That's it.
Just make the decision.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, and he's even putting groceries away, like he's even
He's like this sexy guy putting groceries away. You kidding me?
That's lady porn.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Lady porn, That's what it was. And I'm like, enjoy
the porn, Joe, because this is about no. Does she
know she makes other very bad decisions.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, she's not sure at all.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And then Jake says, it's scares you, doesn't it. I
don't think I've ever met a woman more scared of
intimacy than you.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Right, he's in touch with.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Zinger, that right.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
He's got his own emotions clear and hers too.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Oh just drove me crazy. All these years later, with
all the wisdom that we have, we just want to
hear help these poor characters, I know.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
So speaking of confused characters, we're back in the dark
D and D office where Amanda and Allison are working together,
the only ones.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Working late at night. It's very dark in their.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Cubicles, and Amanda suddenly doubles over in pain, saying something
is very wrong, and Alison jumps right to the phone
and calls an ambulance. So then we go to the
hospital waiting room where Alison is filling Billy in, saying
that Amanda has had a tubal pregnancy and the baby
didn't stand a chance, so she's lost the baby. She's

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had a procedure, and Billy wants to go see Amanda
in the hospital room while she's recovering from this.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Alison goes, great, we'll go see her, and he says,
you know what, I'm going to go alone.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, he chooses to go and alone.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Ouch.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
And there Amanda tells Bill Allison's been great.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
And by the way, I just have to say, she's
lying in the hospital room crying, her big blue eyes
full of tears. She's never looked more beautiful and vulnerable.
Like talk about very.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Vulnerable and emotional in this scene. It was very lovely.
Billy tells her how sorry he is that she lost.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
The baby, and Amanda says, well, perhaps in the long
run it's for the best, because you don't really love me,
do you.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Oh yeah, And basically you can't.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I can't force someone to want to come be a
part of my life with this baby.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And yeah, I thought it was really true breaking stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah, the truth of the whole situation.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
And here Billy tells her he's going to continue to
be there for her. And right then, of course, Alison
enters and she sees this very intimate tableau and she
says she's leaving the hospital, but Billy opts to stay behind.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
She kind of says, are you ready, It's like I'm
going to stay yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
So the next morning, Allison is telling Joe that Amanda
has lost the baby. Joe is our counselor is She's
the confidant for everyone here?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Did you notice she was in another Plin sued shirt
that Denise talked about with the buttons down the side. Y,
those are all buttons and it's Plin sued And I
remember where they sold that.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
In Sunset Plaza next to the Petite for that wonderful
cafe with the sidewalk tables, very European. There was a
story there called h Lorenzo. Yes, I wanted to have
very like European kind of like.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Very body hugging clothes. So I don't go there anymore.
I don't even know if it's there, but that was
like a very hot place to go. And I remember
they had very cute top Plin.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Sued top, yeah, which is very popular back then. So
I just want to fill our audience in behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
And as Alison is confiding in Joe, she also admits
that she didn't even have time to feel guilty. About
kind of thinking, hey, you know, maybe now everything is
fixed because Billy was all of a sudden, you know,
running to mamand decide to comfort her, and so talk
about whiplash. Like you said, it's like the emotional whiplash
of admitting that she you know, sort of thought, oh good,

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now I can finally have my relationship. Then she realized,
you know, as guilty as she feels about saying that
Billy was still sort of choosing to be with Amanda.
So then Jake enters a scene and reminds Joe to
be careful on her trip down town for work today.
She's going to Skid Road to photograph. Alison notes how

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much Jake really cares about Joe, and.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
She says, Jake really cares about you must be nice.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
But can we just stop Courtney and pay homage to
these storylines that Alison is with Billy, lives with Billy
and like just doesn't see it, and Joe has Jay
doesn't ef see it.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I just it's just.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Cutte Michael has Jane doesn't and doesn't see it. It's
so true.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, I got back to my system.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Joe is saying to Allison. Yeah, he's great as long
as he doesn't crowd me.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's like it's great at your own coffee, dude, Get
that gorgeous body away from me.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, God forbid.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
But then when everybody's gone from the apartment, Joe then
goes into her closet and retrieves the handgun that she
is hidden.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
There wasn't under the bathroom, sync, it was.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It was where her in her blouse. It was the
black room. That was where the photography with.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
The chemical thing, Yes, right behind the She told in
an earlier episode that she was going to get rid
of it, and now we see she hasn't. So she
loads it in the scene and packs it into her purse.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
But it's a.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Big gun with the sleeve of bullets that know what
they're call But it was like a big age your
gun like from an action movie. Yeah, it was very little,
tiny pistol.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
No, but it fit in her handbag and off she goes.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Sloppily put in a bag and yeah, yeah, yeah, this
big semi automatically.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Awes that we have now is so bizarre. It was
so innocently done.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
It just was. It wasn't meant to look huge and
sloppily dangerously put into a purse.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
It just was, but it was also you have it,
you know, the way your stage you're in the foreground
of a shot so that you hold your hand up
and you're like put the cartridge in.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
And yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Know, I thought I was going to be an action star,
so it was.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It looked very badass.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
So then back at D and D, Lucy is telling
Allison that she heard how great Allison was for Amanda
being by her side during her health emergency, and she
says she likes it they had such team loyal te
and that truthfully, Amanda has a better chance of getting
that promotion without the pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Ouch.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
And then right then Allison receives a flower delivery and
but when she.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Opens, the games are painted painted black.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's so off, and spray painted horror on the fake
capital letters.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
A friend of mine sent me not too long ago.
There's the gift of this.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
It was. It's a pretty striking image.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, and she sort of drops it like it's, you know,
burning her hands.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, it's horrible.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
So then we cut to Joe. She's making the rounds
on her motorcycle. She's writing out her motorcycles. The gritty
streets of la She's photographing people on the street and
she's then.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
By the way, best hair day ever for photographing the
unhoused your hair.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
She took her helmet off and her hair is very bouncing.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Charlie's Angels note. When she's getting arrested, I'm like, breck.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Girl, Yeah, that's fantastic hair.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Yeah. He's pulled over by a cop for not signaling
on a turn and he asks for her license and registration,
so she opens her purse and of course the cop.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Grasually pulls the gun out of the way.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
She can't get her wallet right, hold on a second, yeah,
and he jumps back down, yeahs his gun, yeah, shouting
at her, put your hands behind your head, get down
on your knees.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
And she's like, what I know?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
And I was just like, first of all, she hair,
first of all, cute casting. Second of all, I was like,
this is what my note was. And I know, here
we are in twenty twenty five. But if she isn't
the most white privileging girl and getting away with it, like,
I don't know, what is.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I got to see it now because of the awareness.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
That I have after all of these years, and what
we as a nation and a world have been through.
And you just see her talking back to him, not
paying attention.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
To him, being belligerently like, why are you hassling me?
I'm just getting picture. So what it's a gun? I need?
Like I was just like my signaled, I like, no,
what's your problem? All the way through this whole sequence.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Later when she's in the police station, she's still yapping away,
talking back.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I love that she talks all the way through her mugshot, like.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I do get it back, don't I wait a minute,
I just whatever, you know, a bear arm?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Don't you know the constitution? On and on, and I'm
just like, girl.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Please, I thought that was actually funny.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Yeah, it was really, but only she can get away
with it.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
And he does tell her that she'll get her gun
back in a week, but that she needs to, you know,
reveal that she's carrying.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
She can't carry.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I forgot my holster.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
She says that if she ever gets yeah, if she
ever gets pulled over, a hart ass I know.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
And then Jake is there to pick her up, meet
her at the police station, and the only line he
has is how could you be so stupid?

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah? Yeah? And then she kept going, what do you mean?
Like it was just so funny.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, and he's pissed.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
He's pissed he had to bail her out and that
she lied about getting rid of the gun, which she didn't.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, Joe's a little tone deaf here, and Jake says,
I don't know if I want to live with someone
who has a gun. And then Joe, you're so snotty
you say, well, you don't, do you?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, don't live with her?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, that was the moment Joe combative in this.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
You know, it was the moment I know, I feel like,
I don't know, she's very defense of this lady.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
She just want to help her out. I didn't know
it back then. You're just right going to work saying
these lines makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
I can see it.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Also, you may have known it a little bit, but
who knows. We're also maybe this season.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
And you know, the script is the script.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
There you go, script is the script.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
So Jane is returning home, she finds Michael packing her suitcase.
He says he's taking her away for a romantic weekend,
and he begs her to give him a chance, saying
that maybe this could be a start and.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Isn't a word. He says, I packed for you, your
favorite dress, your favorite jean's, your favorite perfume. I thought
that seemed weird to me.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
It did it because it seemed to me. It seemed
great to me. Spot on, like good packing. Yeah, because
dress because I want to take you for dinner. Jeans
because you want to be comfortable. Like he didn't say sexy, negge,
because I you don't know, so I can get what
I want. He said, dress, jeans, and then perfume. I
thought that was thoughtful, the only thoughtful thing that Mike
has done.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
She does agree to go, and she's like, this is
not gonna, you know, fix and he's he's like, I know,
maybe it won't fix everything, but maybe it could be
a start. So she's willing to take this baby step
and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I would have to say, we need to stop right here.
Do you have my cleanser and my toner? Right you
have my good cream, my neck creams. You have a
sheet mask in case it's dry, but there's a lot
of stuff that wasn't covered.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
I thought it was very cute.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
So Billy then is accompanying Amanda back to her place
in the marina. She's so, she's out the hospital, and
she tells him he's being very sweet, and Billy says
he told his work that it was a family emergency,
and Billy is Amanda's very touched by that, saying.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Oh, Emily, that's so nice, oh dear. So Allison is
returning home to her empty apartment. She's pouring herself a
drink and she answers the phone. There's before she.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Comes in, and there's a message on the phone from
Billy saying, I'm an Amanda's come on over if you
want to. How weird is that?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
She said no, yeah, no, so maybe and that's what
drives her to poor drink.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
And we find that she's keeping a bottle of vodka on.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
This This is not the fun to see Allison, by
the way.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah. And she's not even putting in the freezer anymore.
She's just got warm in a water glass and drink
harm gloss, not even a mixer. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
And she answers the phone, which is ringing, and it's
a bunch of scary heavy breathing on the other end.
She hangs up. It's a prank call. She assumes it's
Brett the jerk from work, and she angrily says, this
is funny. And then a second call comes, and this
time a creepy voice says, I'm watching you.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Like the horror movie I was talking about.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Yeah, and Alison is scared and she says she's gonna
call the cops, but she you know, downs her vodka
and pulls the chain across the door.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
As soon as I have one more drink, I am
on it with the cotton.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
You just this will go on, This will keep me safe.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
So then we cut to the romantic rooftop hotel where
Michael is whining and dining Jane, telling her he's so
sorry and that he made made a huge mistake. He'll
always regret it. And he tells her he hates that
he caused her any pain.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
And well, but he says it in such way he says,
don't you realize how much it hurts me to have
caused you pain? I'm miserable, like the most narcissistic way
to almost not even apology.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Turn her pain into ye, what about mine?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
My pain hurting you is worse than the pain you
have from being hurt.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
But if you can find it within yourself to forgive me.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Maybe one day, you know, you'll forget all about this
once I'm a doctor and we're living in our big,
beautiful house with all our children fantasy pains, and is
Jane is you know, sort of sucked back in by that,
and they kiss and she says she does want that,
and pretty soon they're tearing at each other's clothes. They
end up sort of stumbling back inside to the Did.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You just notice though, that when he's kissing her neck,
did he sort of look up like he wasn't really?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yes, we saw that same thing where he looks over
her shoulder like he's thinking about something else, or someone
else or someone else.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
So then we cut to more than tipsy Alison. I
believe she's now on too drunk Allison, because she's passed
out on the couch in her fizzy robe. She's napping, Laura, Oh, right,
that's what I meant, And then her thoughts right, Billy.
Her hair is frazzled, but she's peaceful. Billy tries to

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get back into the apartment, but of course the chain
is over the door, and Alison stumbles up from the couch,
lets him in, tells him, you know he can't just
go from Amanda's bed to hers.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I wasn't in her bed on it. Oh, okay, sorry.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
So she does tell him she just feels really alone.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
It doesn't feel like Billy's heart is here with her,
and she doesn't think she can count on him, especially.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
If the building is sold and she has to move
somewhere else. You know, why did I ever leave Seattle?
She says? There was someone there who loved me, and.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
You know, and the camera pulls out through the blinds.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Wouldn't you know, creepy Keith stalking and watching this whole
thing through the window.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Well, wouldn't be as bad if she would stop talking
about him all the time, if you're true, But she wasn't,
saying I sure miss him. Here are the letters I know.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Every time she says that he's he's like off in
the watching.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Clearly the worst choice Allison could ever make. Yeah, So
we cut to Randa telling Matt that she's been hinting
to Terrence that she wants to get him to propose again,
but she's not taking the hints. And Matt says that
she might have to propose to Terrence, and he has
an idea, and he suggests how about a Chinese restaurant.
Then we go back to D and D, where Allison

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is congratulating Amanda because apparently she's now gotten the VP role.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yes, and they're the best of friends again, yep.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
And Amanda thanks Allison for sticking buyer congratulates her too
because now Alison's going to be promoted, And Amanda says
that whatever happens with Billy happens, and we should just
leave it at the door.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
That'd beay, it'll be super easy.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, this is a great plan, right, we can grow,
you know.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
And yeah, at work, we do this. Whatever happens happens.
And of course Allison receives another threatening note. It looks
like a lovely greeting card on the front, but the
word bitch is scrolled.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Inside, big capital angry letters, very angry, dark, scary.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
So Allison storms into Brett's office, assuming he's sending these awful,
menacing things, and she tells Brett the games have just
got to stop.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
He's confused.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
She threatens to call the police, calls him a pathetic slug,
and he says he has had nothing to do with it.
Allison is the immediate believer, he seems believable, and.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
He goes, I did not.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
She goes, okay, then, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
And then she storms out, gee, I wonder who it
could be. Yeah, if it not you, then who. So
we got to Michael and Kimberly, who were.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Walking outside the hospital, and she's telling him that she's
willing to be friends and leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
All of a sudden, she's fine with that. Michael, however,
asks how she feels about sleeping with a married man
who plans on staying that way.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Now, let me ask you something that he's offering. But
this felt robotic to me, and I think it was looped.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
It was totally looping. The looping was so bad in
the scene.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
The looping means for the audience that when the sound
is bad, you have to go into a studio and
try to match your lips to what you were saying.
So it's very hard to be emotionally connected because you're
having to match what you said before you're looking at yourself.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
It's really and this makes sense because this was outside.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
And their hair is blowing around a lot over traffic
or something. Yeah, it was a very windy moment, and
I'm sure that wind was a problem in the mics
on the day, so they had to go back in
and loop, and it did change the inflection and the
emotion that should have been in style.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
A note on that logic. I didnt attribute it to looping.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I thought it was his choice of like being very
matter of fact. Either he's kind of sociopathic, like I
said already, or he's like, so, let's see, how would
you feel about having sex with a married man if
she wants.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
To stay she wants to stay that way, and she's.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Like answers, and then he's like, because I keep having
flashes of us in bed together all the time, and I.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Just yeah, the truth is, I think it's both he
is sociopathic and I'm totally sociopathic, because we're learning that
he just had this romantic weekend with his wife and
he's still going back to Kimberly saying, Hey, I can't
stop thinking about you.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I still want to sleep with you. Are you okay
with that? I'm going to stay married though.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
It's really it's really Michael Mancini coming to his own
as we will all know and hate him.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah, he's really coming into that personality.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
And they end up kissing right out there in.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Their left pout on the hospital walk away right in
the open. Yeah really, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
See tongue, but I saw mouths open.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Okay. Wow.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
So then Amanda, Amanda is back at work calling Billy
from her desk which is right next to Amanda's or
Alison's desk. She's calling Billy telling him that she got
the promotion, asking if they can celebrate over dinner tonight.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
He says yes, then he clicks over to another incoming
call and it's Alison.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Right behind her. So the shot is Amanda in the foreground.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Talking to him and Alison behind shot.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
A little telephone comedy, and Alice was telling Billy that
she's freaking out about everything scary and all this stuff
that's going on for her and she needs to see
him tonight. Billy clicks his phone back over to Amanda,
tells Amanda he has a work.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Thing, so they should celebrate, so he lies to her.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
I'm glad he lies to Amanda picks, you know, being
there for him allad moment.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
But after Laria, So that comedy that he did, yeah,
it was very funny.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
But he is sort of caught in his lie when
Amanda tells Alison take the rest of the day off
and Alice's Allison says, that's okay because Billy's going to
meet me after work tonight.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
But he really should have said, you know, Amanda would
love to celebrate you. Alison really needs me, Like that's
what you want him to say, but no one ever
says what they mean. It ends with Billy and Elson.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Yeah, we're back at the Chinese restaurant with Rondon Terrence,
and her proposal idea gets all screwed up when the
wrong fortune cookies are delivered to the table. So she
just says to Terrence, you know, will you marry me?
And of course he says yes.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Well, I mean, I thought this was really funny because
she's like, they bring the fortune cookies and they're in
the middle of dinner and he's like, what are they
trying to rush us? And she's like, no, no, just pick one,
just pick one. And it's the wrong it's a regular fortune.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
It doesn't even work.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
He doesn't say, you know, will you marry me?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
And she's like, no, pick the other one, and he
does and says something else and she's like, oh, but
when they finally when she finally asks them, and you
finally kisses her hand.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
I'm like, wow, one relationship in this show that works.
It's a healthy, loving relationship that's true. And no wonder
they had to leave the show. I mean it was cute.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
And Vanessa's just like joyful and yeah, just brightly lit
and beautiful and happy her choice right, very sweet.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
And Keith, we're back to Keith.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
He's again stalking Alison outside the apartment. Billy and Allison
are walking home at night, and Alison shears all the
scary stuff she's been getting and says she feels vulnerable.
She's telling Billy, you know, especially because I don't know
where things stand with you. And Billy here says that
he's crazy about her and he just needs some time
to get resolution with Amanda.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
So this feels hopeful.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
And then they decide to just stay and watch an
old movie and eat popcorn.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Billy says he'll go rent a video. He just has
to be right back.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
She goes inside and he is then brutally attacked on
the street from behind.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
What is he hitting him with? Did you guys know what?

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (50:00):
No, but it was definitely a blunt object. For like,
Billy can't see at all who is attacking and it
kicks him, kicks him on the ground.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
It's super brutal, scary.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
So now the whole.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Gang is back at the hospital for the second time.
In this episode.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
There's Joe, there's Jake, Amanda, Alison, Matt and Jane. They're
all in the waiting room and then Keith shows up.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
With flowers in his arms.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Yeah, Everybody's like what and he claims he's in town
on business and he heard what happened to Billy, so
he just came right over the hospital.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, so this is is this the first time they
all see him?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
He's been creeping around all episode.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
No one knew he was there until he's in town. Yeah,
Alison didn't know where anything. This is the first time
he shows up in the hospital.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah, like, what do you mean you heard?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
And this is.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Again like signs of the other thing where he tries
to swoop in and act like the good guy and
he's really the one who's caused it all right if
that other episode, yeah was actually.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Him, but it's so out of very bizarre, talking about
a fish out of water.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Yeah, he is definitely out of place in this waiting
room when everybody and even Allison's not very warm and
happy to see him. She's like, oh, thank you for
the flowers. Whatever, She's a little weirded out by it,
and Michael enters.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
He gives everyone the report on how Billy's doing.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Amanda and Allison together go into his room to see him,
and Billy tells them both that he can't remember anything.
Allison says she feels terrible that maybe his attack is
connected to the threats that she's been receiving. He thanks
both of the ladies for being there for him, and meanwhile,
Jane goes to the nurses station and asks how she

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can find Kimberly.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
The real reason she came to the hospital.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
And.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
So we have every character in this hospital scene in
this moment in the episode, and she stops Kimberly in
the hallway to have a little chat. Kimberly tries to
walk away, but Jane stops her very firmly and tells
her that her marriage is more than just sex and
that she and Michael have a deep and lasting bond
and to stay the hell out Jeane.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
And Kimberly sort of folds her own and stays calm
until Jane says, I just wanted to tell you that
I think you're disgusting. And then Kimberly loses it and says,
it's not over. Since you're being honest, I thought you
should know. And then this was so weird to me.
She starts saying I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, and
we end on her crying. Didn't you think that was

(52:32):
it's whiplash? Like what is happening?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
It is like her guilt over it is you know.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Also, well, she's sorry that she told her she's destroying her.
She's destroying her again by telling her the truth that
it's not over. I thought that's what I thought from it.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah, I love that how they shut They used a
very boring, potentially boring hallway, did you notice that? And
it happens on one side of the doors, the double doors,
and then, you know, Jane says, you're disgusting, and I
hope this happens to you one day, you horrible person.
And then she leaves and then Kimberly stops herself and

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then she goes through those doors and there's another.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Set of doors.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Thought it was a beautiful dance in what could have
been just a boring hallway.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Yeah, they definitely staged it where they used a space
and kept moving through the doors as the scene escalated. Yeah,
and she says, you know what, don't be sorry, because
if it's true, he is all yours, I'm getting a divorce.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
That was it was just terrible because Kimberly said, I
know all about your weekend, your.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Night away, Like, guess what he's not given me, amend Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, it's not over. And you're just like, she's just evil,
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
But it was so good at Jane confronted her to
find out, right, like, that wasn't her intention. But I'm
so glad.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, she popped the bubble and she found out the truth.
She couldn't make a choice.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
So then we're back with Amanda where she's making Billy laugh.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Well he's Amanda.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Ol and on our opposite sides of the bed. Yeah,
and Amanda's being charm and Alison is way out of
her death She's trying to interject and just not She
can't compete with Amanda.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
She can't, she can't get herself into the conversation in
the same way. And she says, you know, we really
need to leave, We need to let Billy get some rest.
But Amanda conveniently forgets her purse, so she has to
turn around and go back into Billy.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Alice and learn last time, I don't care if you're exhausted,
it's four in the morning, don't suggest.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
That you leave, because yeah, yeah, you're gonna be the
only one that leaves.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Right, nobody's gonna leave with you, and they're gonna be
alone together. Didn't you learn the last time?

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, And here Amanda takes the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, you guys have been there in the past where
you're you're at a place and you really don't want
to leave, but you're exhausted or you really should, and
then but you just don't want this.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Person to be alone, you know, you want to stay there,
and you're just like exhausted, and you just stay, and
you just stay. I'm not gonna suggest we leave.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Like a game of chicken. Who can last?

Speaker 5 (54:58):
So Amanda goes back into the room for her purse
that she assosibly forgot, and she tells Billy that she'll
be there for him no matter what, and.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
That she loves him.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
And I have a surprise for you when you get home.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
I'm not telling you now, but when you get out
of the hospital, there's.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
A big love it.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Then Joe and Jake are leaving.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
The hospital and Joe asks your place of mine, and
Jake says, you know, that's a good question, and Joe
frustratingly sighs here and she says she's just not ready
to move in with him and she still needs to
have time on her own and this is all the
commitment she's ready to make.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
And then the saddest thing he says to her, Well,
if this building's sold and we go our own ways,
I think I'll be ready to see other people.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
That's a commitment I can make. And I'm like, no,
is this the end of Jake and Joe?

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I'm like, no, not, this is the only the end
of season one. Do not make this happen.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Yeah, this was big news, big news hearing that if
she's not other people, Yeah, that if she's not going
to make the commitment, then he needs to you know,
move in another Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
But instead of being like, oh, wait a minute, I
didn't know you might feel that way, she says, fine,
have fun, and she goes back inside to get right
home with Matt.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I think it's out of youth and inexperience that kind
of like sabotage where you just sabotage, you know, because
you can't handle the intimacy. So you're just like fine
and you're just you're just backing the whole thing. And
that's really what she wants. I'm just psychoanalyzing my character
from thirty five years ago.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
It's you know, it will take another thirty five years,
I think to get to the bottom psychoanalyzing.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Well, speaking of psycho, we're back.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
He's walking.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Alison back to her apartment door.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Alison is apologizing for the way that she left him
in Seattle. He says, well, he shouldn't have really rushed
her into the move and he was only thinking of himself.
He kind of and very entitled walks follows her inside
the apartment. Alison immediately pours herself a drink off when Keith,
do you.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Want some warm Vodkan and water glass?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Since when did you start drinking?

Speaker 5 (57:06):
And she says, well, you know, weird things have been
happening some I'm weird. I was sending me obscene cards
and I'm really scared. And this is where he asks
the hero and he hugs her and tells her she's safe.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Now everything is going to be fine.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
He pulls her in like this and you crunches her
hair and almost nibbles or bites her head.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
It's here's the thing. You can protect her from the villain?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah, well because of Tim.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Yeah he really can't.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Yeah he can, but the scary music tells us that
everything here is really not fine.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
The music.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
But the next day, Alison drives Billy home from the
hospital and they're arriving at the front of the building
and she admits that Keith drove her home last night.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Can I just stop? You were in a such a
cute floral with those floral.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Love short dresses in the ga jacket the big Now
I wear long dresses with the jean jackets, so I've
not come.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Right like the short one with the white little Tenny's.
So your kids, yeah, the kids, and you're jumping around
helping you.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
That was a very cute scene. So we're kind of flirting,
like he's jealous. Are we doing this again? So they're
having a very sweet little exchange.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
And of course they walk into the courtyard together and
all of a sudden, Amanda is.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
There in the courtyard up on the landing upstairs.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
And she has to go, hey, guys, and they turn
up and there she is.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Up there, she's her dad is standing there with her,
and she tells them that her big surprise is that
she's buying the building.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
And I'm gonna move in and manage it.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Gonna move in and manage it, to.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Manage it, like she's gonna be fixing sinks.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Right, And her last line is really the you know,
the whole the last line of the entire scene season
is I think I'm really gonna love it here.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah, it was so good.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It was such a great launch into season two. And
you know, we don't know how long we're going to go,
but it goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
I thought it was a great episode. Yeah, Cliff Pang
all around, there's.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Lots of drama, lots of drama churning getting you know.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah, So I can't wait till season two. You guys
can't wait.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
We've definitely turned the corner to season two, and it's
so fun to think of all the fun stuff ahead
and what fun it's been to go down this recap relunch.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
We started last I think was June, and this is
our last one, and you know we're going to take
some time off summer We'll.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Take a little break, like a hiatus as you do.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Like our first season of Melrose Places, it has been
like a year. Yeah, take a little break.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
So I've had such a great time you guys, and
I've loved the interaction with our listeners. I hope they
stick around and come back and more come with them.
But I hope they've enjoyed the the but the behind
the scenes and all the fabulous guests that we've had.
You know, remember all the way back when Grant was
our first one, Yeah, and then we had so many

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lunch with him afterwards and so much fun.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
We have so many opportunities for all of our fun
guests and castmates to come back and recap with us,
and all these seasons and then our.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Last one we had Denise before that, Lisa Rena. I
mean we've just everyone's been great. They're like, yeah, well
you know, when when do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
And I've learned so much about you both too, Like
I've learned that look out because Daphne is like maybe
going to throw something at you if if that was.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Thirty five years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I'm just communicating to say.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I learned that about you. I did not know anything
about your you know, tend.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
To learned that my off screen was a little more
dramatic than my on screen in melrose Place.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Now, I loved hearing that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I loved learning all of you I didn't know. I know,
I learned about you too as well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
I learned Courtney all she needs is a cozy dog
on her lap, and she's happy as.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Snoring dog on my lap. And I'm even I have
for farther away and I can still hear snoring or.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
No wonder you don't wear sleeves anymore because you know
you were traumatized through the melrose Place of all help.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
A luminous sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
You're cute little loral dresses.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
But yeah, I think it's been It's been just really great, Laura.
I've learned that you are able to do these rundowns
in your sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
You're so organized, you pull it all together. You're really
good at that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I like, have to stay up for days planning. I
love I love it how you well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I think we're a great team. I love doing this
with you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
And this has been a really fun season one, and
you know, we're all looking.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Forward to a little bit of a hiatus, a little
bit of.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
A break while we regroup, because they think we have
to get all our energy for season two because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
It's going to be going to be exciting, high speed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
So thanks everybody for listening to everybody, it's so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
We love all of your support.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Enjoy your hiatus, everyone, Enjoy your summer.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
You do see you soon. Thanks everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Well m