It Was All a Dream ("Peanut Butter and Jealousy" S1 EP 20)

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
And Daphnews and Niga an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
High Lady, my goodness, you're right.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
So good to see you back in the studio after
for the first time and even before the holidays.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
It's been so nice to hug you actually, like, not
just you know, is that our first hug.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm so sorry. That was so lame on my part.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
It was it was fine. I mean, I realized we
were all sort of distracted. There are things going on
as always, but I feel like, you know, I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You, like, Okay, we're gonna make you a contact. I'm
going to give you afterwards.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
That was so lame on my part.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, we haven't seen each other and so long. It's
a crazy time in LA but we've.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Been through a lot.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah, and it's ongoing. It's not I don't think we
can say, oh, it was a crazy time.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We're not going to relaxed.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We're going to go bring some shoes and slippers to
a friend after this lost her whole entire home.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I go, can you meet?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
She goes, No, We're going back to the old place
to dig through more to see if I can save
anything all the things.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
This is terrible, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's la.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, we're driving here and we saw another smoke
up in the hues like miles and miles away.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
But yeah, yeah, still still a very stressful time. So
we're here to see your favors, and yeah, we get.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
To have our a little bit of an escape a
couple of hours to just play and have fun and
go visit Delaver was in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Distracting fun times for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Ye yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Shall we get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
We have a recast today, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
This is episode number twenty. Title of this episode is
Peanut Butter and Jealousy. It is Sydney's second episode. We'll
be a little boiler, her last for the season. So
here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
We open in Billie's bedroom at night, and we have
another opportunity to enjoy Andrew Shoe dancing around the room
while he's getting dressed and at this moment he's just
wearing a button down and boxers, thinking it's not kind
of risky business, waiting risky business, And it was just
this great montage with him putting on the rest of
his shoes and his socks and the rest of his outfit,

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which is revealed to be tucks for his date tonight
with Alison at the Advertiser's ball, and then we cut
to the living room where Billy walks out in his
tucks and he needs help with his cuffs. Alison is
dressed and he's sparkly silver short dress, and she helps.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Billy super sparkly, super short. And I remember that dress.
I remember that it was heavy.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
You look great in it, actually heavy, yeah, so nineties. Yeah,
you look great in it.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
And she helps him with his cuffs, and Jake is
there too. He seems a little distracted. Allison says, this
feels like prom night and she hopes she will embarrass
herself in front of her work big wigs, and Jake
comments that maybe taking Billy might not help with them,
so out the window. Jake then notices Joe, who is
heading up the stairs to her apartment, and Jake tells
Allison that he ran into Joe's husband looking for her

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out by the mailbox, which was.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
The last scene of the last episode. As we're starting
to get this and did you notice in this episode
the scenes were shorter, like it really moved and we
were all interconnected.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
And picking up those storylines, was like, so fun, let's
find out what happens with this.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, this is a huge intro for Joe because this
is what she ran from. We're all starting to find
out she ran from a domestic violent situation.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, so that.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Explains some of her secretness, some of her pushing people away,
some of her like fear of getting involved again. And
we're going to meet him this episode.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. We learned so much about her
through this character. Intense scenes coming up, certainly threatening, and
Alison is concerned, as.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
She should be the nicest guy Linda such a sweet guy.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, Allison is concerned, and Jake reveals that he hasn't
yet told Joe about him showing up, but he intends to.
So then we cut to Joe. She's in her apartment
listening to messages on her answering machine and she hears
yet another photography company telling her that they're hiring somebody else.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
There's a knock of the door.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Can we stop for a second and show that that
sexy little vixen hopping into her black jeans with their
black eyes.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Like to be that person? You are that person, You
were that person. It's like memorialized on.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Film, and I was like, oh my god, that was me.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I had a moment.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
You should And by the way, I had a moment too,
and I'm glad you stopped to.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Talk about it.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
And if you haven't seen this episode, people go back
to Paramount Plus and watch this episode.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
She doesn't mean it because she like got her you know,
got into her little tight jeans with those little black guns.
And then she hears a rejection like sorry, we're going
with someone else, and she's like feeling herself, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, screw that, I'm going out with Jake, you know,
like I.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Usually she wouldn't be like, you know, normally you get
a call like that.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You're like, oh, what's wrong with me? But not Joe,
not in that moment. She did.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
She heard those messages. And Jake comes to the door
and he has a completely different intention, as we know,
he's trying to maybe tell her something, but she just
steamrolls and says, nope, I've had six job rejections and
you're taking me out somewhere loud and numbing. Jake says,
you know, we have to talk, and Joe says talking
is not in my agenda.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, and did you notice. What I like about this
scene is did you notice that Joe's bookshelves are still empty?
She's still not quite moved in, but she's wonder of
Allison's dolls. Maybe Allison because but I thought, what a
great choice for set decoration, because you don't seem like
you're quite there.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, totally. I remember ended talking about that.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Actually, like, we just don't want to have a lot
except for black and white photos of you that you
took by yourself, looking miserable and scared.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Their art Syne they're you, and that's such an interesting
choice that you know that was important to put the
art of the wall but not.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Oh yeah, okay, and I'm going to bring up something later.
Another scene.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
So exciting, So she says, no, talking's not my agenda.
Reality ends here, she says, as they leave the apartment together,
and we cut to Jane and Michael's apartment at night,
where Jane is taking Rhonda's measurements for her wedding dress
while Sydney, sitting cross legged on the couch's giving a
magazine chewing gum.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Chewing gum with a huge sweater with huge buttons. You
and Josie both had on the biggest sweaters, Like Josie,
you had.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
A million buttons up that sweater all the way up
to your chin.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'm always gonna have some sort of wardrobe to come out.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm in the seaterst scene.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I'm gonna wear buttons. Yeah, this is what I wear,
my little crop sweater, but button it.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
All the way to the top.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yep and chomping on gum. I was you made the
scene was amazing.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
It was like such freedom. There was such permission with Sydney,
and Sydney.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Was a full like glory of the case. Is this
and I say this, and it's totally out of style,
like every Jane tried to do your job, just trying
to help out.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, yeah, so that's it. You know, she's trying to
do her job. Jane is trying to do her job,
and she's making recommendations for the design and everything she
says or sid contradicts and and such her like you're wrong,
Gordon to k Beacon, Oh yeah, by the way, you
forgot to measure her. In same she hops up to
help measure Randa and Jane stops her say, hey, I

(07:12):
have three weeks to make this wedding dress. First of all, really,
and she says to Sid, so do you mind? Sydney
rolls her eyes and she leaves, saying, oh, I'm just
trying to be helpful.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm Jane's totally.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Understandably exasperated, and she complains to Randa that Sid is
relying on her to provide her with her friends, or
job or life. And Randa tells her that she used
to struggle with her own brother and their relationship, but
now they only speak politely at family functions, and Jane says, well,
I don't really want to end up in a dysfunction.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
And why doesn't you want that to with this person?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like I would want that to be if they talk
to me when I'm at a function and I address
you please.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Other, especially as opposed to the dysfunctional relationship that we
know is coming.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Like yeah pick this one, yeahmer one, Yeah totally.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
If you ownly knew what kind of dysfunction.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Totally.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
So then we got two shooters at night where Jake
and Joe are at the bar. Joe is lamenting that
she needs to land a job, and she goes on
about another annoying guy who not only didn't hire her,
but he criticized her work and maybe wanted her to
come on to him super yuck, and Joe finally stops
her and says, you know, I have to tell you
something important, Jake. Jake stops her, Yes, Joe, and he

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tells her that he saw her ex husband outside their
building looking for her, but that Jake told him he'd
never heard of her.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
And she freezes, and she's she just freezes.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
The entire tone shifted because.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
She's talking about all these other things, and then all
of a sudden she looks around and she's vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
That fear is real, Yeah, for sure, you know, because
he could be anywhere over the shoulder, looking over you know.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So yeah, yeah, that made it real, the terror in
her bones still when he goes, I saw your husband,
and it's it's so tricky because he doesn't get it
quite yet.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And she told her, I told him you weren't here,
I said the letter back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, and you're right.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
She felt so vulnerable. She's like, I need to get
out of here now, and she leaves immediately.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, she goes into survival mode.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
So then we cut to the ballroom where Billy and
Allison are cutting her rug on the dance floor at
the advertising party.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
You love dancing on camera.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I got to see a window into you playing Alison
that I hadn't yet. That's what one of the things
dancing does, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
You were just like free and like, you know, feeling it.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
And I was like, I'm not a big fan of dancing,
and you're dancing on camera and I've had to do
it all the time. Well, oh, Allan McGill, we had
to dance every week. Was always in that.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Dance thing about dancing on cameras. There's no actual music,
so they'll play it for a second, and then when
they roll sound for the actual Yeah, what you're filming,
they're going to drop the music out, but you have
to keep dancing and which tid like you can hear it, so.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So you get into it. Then they stop it and
everyone and you're like, eh, this is embarrazing.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh, it's so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
But you guys were adorable.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
You were adorable. I loved it.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
And then the music changes in A slow song comes
on and then Billy sort of pulls Alison a little
closer and.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yay, and then Alison pushes it away abruptly, very abruptly
ends the dance and walks away.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I mean, clearly, we've we have to just admit that
the women in Melrose Place there's something in that building,
in their water or something.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Because we have the hottest, most.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Kindest, funniest, sweetest men, and we do nothing but turn them.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Away, push them away. Guys. It's insane. Now, thirty years later,
I'm going what I wouldn't give?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, like I would have faxed the writers every single day.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I refuse to turn them away one more time.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
No one's gonna beat it, right.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Faxed them so I know.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Billy follows her off the dance floor and he tries
to apologize, and he doesn't really acknowledge that he was, like,
you know, trying to maybe get a little closer whatever,
But he apologizes instead saying, oh, you know, sometimes I
just like to dust off the old Arthur Marie's step.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's such a good real But wait, quickly, did you
guys notice Chip and Deborah dancing behind Yes, great Deborah
Dary played my boss, was married to Chip Hays, our producer,
and they were dancing behind us.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
That was so cute, right, And he then comes in
for a close up in a minute in this scene
because when Allison's boss comes over to talk to her,
interrupting Allison and Billy, and Alison introduces Billy to Lucy,
who says Billy is too charming to be the married one,
and Billy says, nope, I'm the roommate one. And there
in walks Chip hays close up who was just in here.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
With us producer and that's his real wife Debra in
the scene.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
But he wasn't given any lines.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah he was good, Yep, he's good.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
At the Barry politely but silently pulls Lucy away. So funny,
and then Billy asks Allison if she ever gets tired
of explaining that they're just platonic, and she says, you know,
I'm just trying to get through the night. So Billy suggests, well,
you know you should just relax and have a good time. Then,
at which time Danny appears our Larry Dexter playing Danny,

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calling Allison eleanor, which this time she promptly corrects, and
Danny tells Alison he was stood up, so he's here
without a date.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Larry point Dexter, who played Danny in the last episode.
You asked him to the date, he said, no, I'm
going with someone else, and now.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
He shows up and was that a little weird? World?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
And art? So Andrew and Larry are in a two
shot and I'm like, so this is ex boyfriend, current
boyfriend is Corney thorn Smith. If my headge was spent
my real life ex boyfriend, real boyfriend now again. Larry
and I dated for a little bit and we were friendly,
so it wasn't anything that word, But I was like,
how did I know? I was like, how did I

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not remember being across from those two guys at the
same time.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, it's so funny because the on camera awkward was,
you know, built in. It was supposed to be awkward, right,
your date for the night, and then the guy who's like,
hey whatever, But like, it's a whole different off camera
real life awkward.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
But once you saw it and you did remember it,
do you remember it in the moment feeling weird?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Again?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Larry and I were very friendly. It was very light
and very fun. And Andrew's so I'm sure it was
just like light and.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Fun and funny.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
It's fun and funny, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Ninety nine percent. We talked about it in the moment
and laughed about it. Yeah, But watching it, I was like,
how do I not remember that that happened?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I bet you Andrew in real life kind of enjoyed
in the moment, like, yeah, you were light and easy.
I'm the real guy holding together.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
And so in the scene, awkward as it is, Danny
introduces himself, Hey, I'm Danny to Billy, and Allison says
Billy is her date, but Danny decides no matter, and
he boldly asks Allison to dance. Allison agrees to dance
with him, and Danny hands.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Billy his plate the food.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
He leaves with Allison.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Right. The problem not being that he asked Allison. The
problem is that Allison.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Says yes, well, honestly.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Aladly was she raised?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Also, Danny is a little forward, don't you think, like, oh,
I've already called you the wrong name twice. I told
you I couldn't go, and now I'm going to come
up and just boldly know in.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Front of your hamst red flags and the fact that
Alison is choosing him over sweet adorable Billy who showed
up for her in her moment of need is a
real problem. I just want to stand processing. This is
red flags.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I just want to stand up for the for the
power of the crush that kind of over overshadows everything,
you know what I mean, Like all logic.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Is what Okay, you just called me the wrong name.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You're totally insulting him. OKAYO so cool, he sees me.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, that is a good point.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
So we go back to Joe's apartment later that night,
where she and Jake have returned to the apartment and
Jake says he can't believe that she's still married and
just says, yeah, it was just easier to lie, and
she'd planned and filed for divorce once more time had passed.
She says her husband is been looking for her since
she left, and he's not going to stop. She seems
very very scared, and Jake doesn't quite understand just how

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scared she is about this, and he says, don't worry,
I'll stop.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Him, just as question, did you guys have this moment?
So I'm a very independent modern woman. When he says that,
like I'll stop my guy, go oh oh my goodness,
like my little cave girl, it's all a flutter, like
he's very strong, Did you guys.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Have I love it? Every time? Jake says that because
the guy rides a motorcycle and he has to.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Stopman in them tracks and I love it.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
It's a little part of me.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
That's his role and that's what he can do.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
That's all he can do. He's done it in the
past and the show. Remember I got that.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Every time, I'm like, oh, I wish I didn't love it,
but I know.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Joe does say, Jake, you don't understand. And it's not
that simple, because in four years of marriage, it wasn't
all bad, she says, and she tells Jake that he
really should just go and that this is her problem.
So Jake leaves. Joe dials the phone when she's alone,
and she tells the person at the other end, it's
I know he's.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Here in La. Where is he? Okay, who's she talking to?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I was just gonna ask you.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
You don't have the I'm sure you knew at the time.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Came with somebody very specific.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I could see the apartment that they were in and
I could see their phone.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
But I'm like, who is she? Because she's like, come on,
I know they're here. Just tell me where he is.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
And I'm just like, maybe his assistant, her secretary or something.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, that's okay, that's good.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Well, you had to find out where he was, so
that was a very convenient way to do it, to
be able to make a.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Phone call because the next yeah shot is the Bollage Hotel.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
But back at the ballroom, Billy is standing next to
the bar, very forlornly, watching Allison slow dance.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't think he looked for Lauren. I thought he
looked mad.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I thought he was also hurt.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, well he should have been hurt Alison.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
He is pining a little bit, and she's slow dancing
with dance, the very thing that she left the dance for.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I mean, it gets even worse, Cord, I mean, you
for even worse. Comes so confusing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
So then Danny sort of whispers something in Allison's ear,
and then she leaves the dance floor, walks over to
Billy and asks Billy if it's okay if she goes
to an afterparty thing with Danny.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I was yelling at myself. Were you guys yelling at me?
Because I was yelling at myself.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
It was very disappointing. We were disappointed.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
We were disappointed, were very disappointed. Now we're not mad,
We're just disappointed.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
And Billy was clearly bummed, and he said, well, sure
go have a great time, very magnanimous of him. And
Allison gives Billy a very sweet kiss on the chief.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Finally a kiss, but it's a kiss on the cheek. See,
a very bad situation.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
And I have a question, is he still holding Larry's food?

Speaker 4 (17:48):
You know, I think he disposed of that something. He
might have been nursing a drink. But yeah, She's like,
see you later.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You were a green day. Oh, very very I just
the roommate thing is really crazy, crazy evil.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
So then we cut to the village hotel at night
and Joe was walking through the hotel lobby very beautif.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Properly dressed, dressed and pulled out.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Normally dressed because normally white, normally your awn black, and
it was like a white.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
It was white black, gold pearl, very conservative and like
very upscale, elegant. And it was such an insight into
her characters, like what she wants to be, which is
now it seems like, and then what she was expected to.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Be, what she was expected to be back then.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And I mean, if you're just gonna put a little
actor behind it, it's like, you know, she's bolted from him.
She's asserting herself, she has new life. But the fact
of the matter is being around him, who's probably very judgmental.
She doesn't want to look slowly or bad or tough.
She wants to look the best in what he expected,

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you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Like, so that's what Denise wingetor you know, wanted her.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
So I just feel like she wouldn't have shown up
on her vests in her cool jeens.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well, it was a striking image because we're used to
seeing her yeah cool in chic, and this was just
such a more elegant look for her. And she seemed
to be almost like even hermid the way you were walking, she.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Was like cautious, she was still very still. I thought,
you're right, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Your hair was very set. Yeah, Like I remember you
hated when they come and spray your hair with hair spray,
and that time you let them like they really said it.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yes, yes, yes, hold still yeah, And so she cautiously
joins them. He greets her as Beth, and he tells
her he's drinking soda water, not alcohol and that, and
she finds out that her father actually was the one
who told him where to find her. Joe tells Charles
that she only came here to tell him that their

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marriage is over, and he tells Beth and she corrects him.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
It's Joe. He tells yep again.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Again, like it used to be before I met you,
and you didn't like it because that's a boy's name.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
You called me, Beth, Get it through your head.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
And he tells her that he went to rehab after
she left, and he has stopped drinking.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
The place that you wanted me to go to, and
I'm finally there.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Has that ever happened to you? Guys?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Where you're with somebody and you want them to change,
and they're, you know, I don't know if it's drinking
or whatever, and then you finally have had enough and
you leave, and then they come back afterwards and they're like,
I'm changing, I'm changing.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Has that happened? Raise your hand? Oh yeah, of course,
because that's what men do, don't.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
You often find like I've had that I've broken up
with somebody. They come back change, but over time it
doesn't last. If you telcome them back, it doesn't change.
Even if they you don't welcome them back, they go
back to who we are, like we care who we
are in so many ways.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
But you wanted you spent months saying will you please
like read the self help book or will you please
try to shift and hear me? And let's can we
at least you know whatever date and I don't know
what it is. I know it mine where, but it's
like they just can't right. And then suddenly, yeah, they
have it all figured out and it's just like too late.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
But it's my experiences, it's to win you back. It
doesn't really, of course, yeah, because.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
He's trying to convince her in this, in this conversation,
all the reasons why, hey, look how great I am,
Look how much I've changed, And we find out later
of course this is he doesn't true.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
But she's duck. She's very like.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Pulled in by it, and she's you know, listening and
sort of torn. It makes her really think and yeah,
and he insists that he's not trying to win her back,
but that really part of his recovery is to try
to heal old wounds and apologilogist he's hurt, and so
Joe starts to really look conflicted here and he says
to her, I'm really sorry from what I for what
I stole from you, yeah, which really speaks to her,

(21:55):
and so she's torn. And he then says, well, I'm
only around for few days, asking her if she will
have lunch with him, just lunch, he says, while he's
still in town. Yeah, and we're off of Joe's face
considering it.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah. So yeah, it's interesting, very interesting. You know, someone
coming back and you look at him and you see
all the things that you wanted to see then, and
he's such a handsome guy, and you know, maybe I
don't know any.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
It's not black and white.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
It's really real. This is real. Yeah, it's you love him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
So we cut to Gene and Michael's apartment. There is
thunder and lightning, very dramatic, very dramatic, and Jane is
entering her apartment, walking through the living room, picking up
discarded clothing, grinding discarding the scrubs. Approaching the bedroom, she's
calling out. Michael enters the bedroom slowly, which is lit
with candles, and there she catches Sydney and Michael in

(22:52):
bed together. Now we're just appointed in Laura with Sidney.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You were naked in bed with the husband. Wait, I
got to do it for you, Okay, So you were.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I forgot all of this entirely, Like I forgot out
what was going to happen in the second episode entirely,
just like I couldn't even remember how are they going
to get rid of Sidney?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like what happens?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
What's the catalyst to make that happen? Like I couldn't
remember any of the storyline. So this was a fun
episode for me to watch and.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Learn all these things again.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
But I was like, oh my god, I had to
do like a in bed scene. And as you know,
I was that brand new actress in the first place,
and this was only my second episode of television entirely,
and here I am all of a sudden being asked
to go, Okay, you need to be you know.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Because we saw from the back the sheet was down,
so you weren't wearing a bra.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Make sure the camera's not going to see anything. But
the person you're acting with asked to see you with
sticky stuff on your chest and tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
He doesn't listen to this podcast.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I've blocked it all out, no, But like do you
remember Thomas was saying that was always his role was
like make sure everybody's you know, stickies were right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Think that's your role to make sure that they're sticky.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
But I was struck in watching it, like, holy moly,
I had to do that very early on when I
I am assuming, I didn't even have that second script
for until everybody else got the script right, So when
I got the job, I only knew what was happening
in episode nineteen. And then I'm shooting and then they
hand you the next episode.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Ye're first wearing a beret. That's it.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Now we got your naked and swimmers are so incredibly
sweet trying to make us comfortable in those scenes. It's
really uncomfortable because you're not You're wearing little bits of
things to cover the most important parts, but you're almost naked.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Super vulnerable. Yeah, and you're like, Okay, this is just
the story we are us to tell. So yeah, it
struck me as like, holy moly.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
That was oh yeah. But yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
So she turns around, we see her bare back, and
she turns around saying Jane.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
And then we caught to Jane, who's waking up in
her bed.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
This has clearly been a nightmare, and there's Sydney sitting
beside her, filing her nail in Jeane's bed.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Ew yeah, and one more like a man's buttoned down
over this really second shirt he wears like a forties
movie star and you've got one leg up and you're filing.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, it was so fine. It was great wardrobe.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
They just were like leaning into the cringe of it all,
weren't they. Okay, let's put her on a man's shirt,
whose shirt oversized shirt.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
And then let's give her a nail file right on
top of her head?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Is so yeah, it wasn't cozy like fuzzy fuzzy PJS
type thing.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Definitely say satty with a man's shirt. And I still
know who was.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
But she's there telling Jane, don't worry you overslept. I've
already told Kay that you know you might be late,
but don't worry. Jane pops up to get ready, and
then we uh moved to the kitchen where we see
Michael on the phone and he's whispering to someone on
the other end that he doesn't know where it will
be yet, but yes, it will be.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
A surprise party.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
So Sydney walks into the kitchen and she whispers to
Michael that Kay's studio would be the perfect place for
this party, and Michael says, Sid, I'm planning this party.
And Sid says, I just want to help, and she says, Michael,
you're desperate and you need a place, and Michael reluctantly
admits he could use the help. So he tells Sid
to check on K Studio.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
After all, Can I just say again that sexy teddy
and a man?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Sure, but just the fact that Sydney is in your apartment,
your tiny one bedroom apartment, in a sexy teddy like
for who like?

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Because she left for college and that's what she packed
with her is her sexy teddy It was in.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Your okay miss method.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
That's doesn't match like the Doc Martin and the and
the and the beret vibe.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
It doesn't really match.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The rest of the she before that, it was all
costumes for Sydney, right, so this is a bedtime costume.
So it did with the nail file, it did ring true.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
It felt to me more like she borrowed it, like
I've borrowed my sisters, and oh, let me just borrow this.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
And let me borrow that.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
That's to me what it looks like is she's trying.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
To take everything on found the episodes after this, she's
just moved.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Herself to thin.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
She's borrowing clooes.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
He reluctantly admits that he could use the help, and
he does, tells Sidney to go check on case studio
for him. Sidney throws her arms around Michael's neck and says,
you're the best, Michael, giving him a kiss on the cheek,
right at the moment when Jane walks into the kitchen
and witnesses this moment. Sidney then bounces back down the
hall and Jane looks at Michael for an explanation, and

(27:30):
he lies and says, I.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Made a breakfast.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
So basically this nightmare started and ended up as a
bad effing dream.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
And just felt so bad after her nightmare to have
to see that. Yeah, absolute kidding, Yeah, And he's like,
I made her breakfast.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
He makes up a story because he's trying to cover
about this surprise party, and she's like, what a guy pissed?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, she really hit that too. They must have given
her direction because Josie's so sweet and Jane also is sweet,
and she goes, what a guyy? Yeah, it's like what
a dump?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
She really.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Runny way to wake up all of it. So then
We cut to Alison Billy's apartment in the morning, and
Allison knocks on Billy's bedroom door. He's finishing getting ready
a day and Billy asks her how the after party went.
She says it was boring and that they only talked
about work, and she regretted leaving Billy at the party
and says she's sorry, but that she didn't think it

(28:23):
was a real date between them since she and Billy
are just friends. Allison come on, so Billy's kind of huffy,
and he agrees, Yeah, I know, we're just friends. But
Alison can tell he's mad, and Billy says, yeah, Alison,
what did you expect. He reminds her that he rented
a tux, he blowed ried his hair, he.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Three times, andrew she was never blowed rider's hair, the
fact that he.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
The fact that he knows that that's not even a thing.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Really what happened in between each time? Like what happened
that I blow.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Drid my hair three times?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
And he kiss dumped her boss and then Alison dumped him,
he says. She insists, I did not dump you, but
Billy says it still bothers him and he doesn't really
know why. But he leaves the apartment with Alison yelling
after him, you're being unreasonable, and Billy yells back from
the courtyard that it's unreasonable for her to expect him
not to care.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
This is before we were talking about gaslighting. But Alison
is so gaslighting him, Like your reaction to me begging
you to be my date and dumping you is inappropriate, Like, no, no,
it's not. It's that the sun Reason's feelings are very validant.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, but I thought Andrew was great in the scenk
and then he tells Jake as he's passing him in
the courtyard, don't ask. It was just like such a
good sweep.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
But that's what I'm talking about this episode. We keep
bringing all the people together, like we didn't do that
as much early. They were sort of separate, Like for
him to be passing Jake, Yeah, to keep everybody alive
the whole episode, I thought they did a great job.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And then this overlaps straight into Jake looking up and
seeing Joe coming down the stairs carrying her bulging photo portfolio,
and as she arrives at the on the stairs, the
portfolio spills out all over the ground in the courtyard,
he goes over and helps her clean up her photos,
and while he's down on the ground, he mentions to her,
you know there are things you can do, like you

(30:11):
know injunctions and quick divorces, he says. And Joe tells
Jake that she actually went to see her husband last
night and Charles told her that he's quit drinking and
he has admitted that it's a problem, which he'd never
done before. And Joe tells Jake that she is confused
and she doesn't know if after being married for four years,
she can just not give a damn and walk out
and say it's over. And Jake says, well, who's asking

(30:34):
you to? Then Joe very gently tells Jake that she
really cares about him, Jake, but that this is her
past and her problem.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I'm seeing the stories parallel ling each other. Yeah, both
of our hunks are big, dist and different.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Both of our gorgeous, sweet, funny guys are her packing
don't have eyes.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
But like, don't you think so much of a show
like this is about the audience wanting to shout back
at the television like no, don't do that, Like I
was yelling at all of us.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
We're leaning into this show.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
The writers, it's like a plane about to take off.
Do what I mean, because then we're that for the next.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Right, I mean you want to I think that's a
fun thing. Is an audience to be able to.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Don't do that, I know better than what you're doing
right now.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I mean, this is the gearing up for our fans
to start, you know, like having gathered talking about it.
Then they have gatherings, then they have Melrose parties in
a year from now, yelling at the yelling at the TV.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
When they talk about it, if they didn't know better
than the characters exactly. So we cut to Matt's apartment
in the morning. Ronda's there and she's working on wedding
planning and her budget, and Matt tells her, you know, Randa,
you're changing. You used to make fun of anything that
was like extravagant like this or social. And Ronda says, well,

(31:55):
she has to change since she's going to be living
a whole different life now with Terrence. And Matt asks Ronda, well,
what about your old life, you know, the volunteering and
the things that were meaningful to you, your commitment to
rebuilding the neighborhood and Ronda says, Matt, you obviously don't
know what goes into planning a wedding, and that after
I will go back to the other stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
So easy, we changed, so easily.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
So nice to see Doug. It's like dogs here and
he just didn't have enough to do at this point,
and a very.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Clear observation about what's going on for Ronda. Yeah, And
so then we cut to a restaurant outdoor restaurant with
Joe and Charles, where he is telling her that, Wow,
it must have been really difficult for you with no money,
your credit cards, Joe tells them, while I'm working as
a photographer, which, by the way, is something that you
always dismissed. You called it a worthless hobby, she says.

(32:45):
She reminds him, and he again calls her Beth and
says he must have under estimated her, and he apologizes.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Which probably is something she wanted to hear. Their entire
merit right now.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I was trying to say everything right, want to hear.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
That he'd underestimated you. Oh, yes, more than he thought
you were the whole time.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm sure, So he really is. He's trying to He's
saying all the right.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Thing all the right cars. I was sitting there going, Wow,
I really he's amazing.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
How to get off Yeah, manipulate thought he was like
the advanced.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
And so Joe says, you know, I can forgive you,
but I have made my decision. I'm leaving I and
I want us to go our separate ways. Charles then
tries to pain himself as insecure and says he didn't
think he deserved her while they were married, and Joe says,
I love this line. No, Charles, drunk or sober, you
were never insecure.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, it was such a strong, good life. That's
a great line.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
And she totally calls him out on that, and he
says he never realized how fortunate he was, but Joe
says she's firm. She says, I have a new life
and I really like it. Charles finally says he's happy
for her, but he asks her one more thing, would
you just show me around the city before I leave town?
Because doesn't four years together at least buy me an
afternoon by me?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
All money and power that's that currency is this exchange
of currency of the world that they came from, you.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Know, And he's just pushing it little bits at a time.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
You can't convince her with his words. He's like, all right,
just spend a little bit more time with me. So
he convinces her for this. So we cut back to
Kay Beacon's design studio, where Jane is working on designs.
Sydney comes up wearing a bizarre sweater with really fluffy
stuff on the shoulders. I thought it looked kind of
like a bold eagle right right, with wings there and scrunchy.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
But I had a very fancy jacket that had that
sort of white faux fur.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Call this was like.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Feathers, I thought, sticking out in a direction that made
it was it had been.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
So it was kind of like you just popped out
onto Melrose, the real Melrose Avenue to one of those stores,
you know, one afternoon with all the money that Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
It on the sweater and flew out the door. So
Jane asked Sidney how the apartment hunt is coming. Sydney's
vague saying it's coming, and she grabs an apple and
takes a huge crunchy bite over Jane's work right in
her ear jeans suggests maybe Sidney should just go pick
up lunch for Jane since Aaron's are part of her job,

(35:11):
and Sidney says, nah, I like to be.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Near the action.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I don't know, blows are off now I'm not going
to do that. Jane's very frustrated, tells Sidney go kiss
some butt or whatever it is you're here to do,
and Sidney appears to be hurt. Yes, Sidney, wow, so touchy?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
What do you mean when I'm.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
So Then we were back to Alison Billy's apartment at night.
Billy is ordering Chinese food while Jake is pacing near
the window and he tells Billy that he called Joe
five times.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
She hasn't been home all day.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Where could she be? And he's awfully upset. Billy's watching television?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
But did you know this.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Made me laugh so hard? So the TV is for
some reason on the little kitchen table, which clearly the
director had an idea, and it was really well shot.
Who directed? Do we know? We should go buy? So
it's really well directed and it's a great shot. But
it's like, we need a TV, we'll just put it here.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
And it needed to be in the window because Jake
needs to be looking out the window and Billy needs
to be watching TV, so just move them together.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
You're just gonna put the little table.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
And but for those of you who are younger, you
just be able to pick up TVs and move them
around you want to.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
You it was not a giant TV. It was like
a big old box with the they used to be.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
He's watching TV on this tiny little box and Jake is.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Ranting watching The Simpsons, which as we know, is still running.
First episode, like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Was running, then still on running out.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Wow, that's the longest on TV, I think the Simpsons.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Billy even references it in the scene. It's so funny.
But Jake is telling Billy that he finally met someone
who could maybe be the one. She could be it,
but he has to sit back and do nothing. And
by the way, I haven't even slept with her. And
Billy stops watching television.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
He's like, what you haven't you.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm just like going, wait, we haven't.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I thought that too, I thought, but I guess all right.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
That was funny, and Jake suggests maybe he deserves this
since he's done this to a lot of other women.
He says, and here's where Billy says, well, you know,
women are always the ones in control. And he sort
of cites the Simpsons is a good example, because Homer
ever said anything bright, so Billy such a goo example.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's where he got his relationship advice.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yea Simpsons and whatever happened to shows like Magnum Pi.
He says, But isn't there like a Magnum.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I don't know who had a crush on Magnum P.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
I yeah, the original.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I'm like way too young. I was like, hello, I
was probably eleventh. I don't know much, but he's hot.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Jake then sees Joe and Charles through the window as
they're coming into the courtyard, and Jake and Billy watched
at the window in the courtyard where then we cut
down and Charles is telling Joe that he had a
great time today and he kisses Joe. She lets him,
and there's a close up through the blinds as Jake.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Sees them kiss.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh my god, I was so mad at you in
that mouth.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Definitely, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Only mad confused And why kiss him there?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Like why walk all the way? Ages of the kiss?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I know?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
And it's like I'm so confused, Like was he really
that charming? Like I don't know what happened.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
He's her husband, and she's like, how do I go? No,
we're not going to get like that. That feeling like
that conflict for Joe was just like she was so confused.
It wasn't cat and dry the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, I mean, when you're in a situation there in
the moment, you kind of go with things and then
later you can assess it.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Kind of thing he had, he'd said so many of
the right things. Yeah, you know so, and Jaco's has
to witness at all.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Ken Maybe he just said, Kenned, what four years? Can
it buy me a kiss?

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay, that's that'll cost you one.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
So then back at Jane and Michael's apartment the morning,
Michael piques at Jane's birthday cake, which she's hiding in
a laundry basket. Just as Jane walks into the apartment,
he covers it up quickly. She's returning from a jog
with her walkman, which you know probably held a cassette tape,
telling Michael that unfortunately the jog didn't clear her head. However,
she says, Michael, you were right. I'm gonna ask Sidney

(39:03):
to leave the apartment today. And then Michael panics, which
we realize is about the surprise party says wait, wait, wait,
really so soon, and Jane says she can't take it anymore,
that they're destined to repeat the same patterns of their past,
and Jane recounts a story about Sidney having a heart
murmur as a kid, where everybody tiptoed around her and
she expected everyone to do things for her, and Michael
suggests that sid will maybe grow up and maybe give

(39:26):
it a little bit more time. You know, you don't
want to push her out the door and feel like
you didn't give her enough time, And he.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Just give it one more day, that you should.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
You and Sidney should go out tonight since I'm on rotations,
and if you still feel the same way tomorrow, you know,
go ahead. So she agrees to give it one more day,
and she asks Michael to promise that they will have
alone time for her birthday, which he promises.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I mean, I just feel like, uh, hasn't it switched around?
Wasn't he like for the whole last you know.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Get her out now because he saw her in that
Teddy Now he's like, well, maybe more day. What's the rest?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Well, I think it was supposed to be about the
surprise party that he needed her help.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, it was supposed to be a surprise party. It's
supposed to make Jane think they're having an affair, because
why does he suddenly They didn't lean into that so much.
I don't know if that part got edited out, but
you can see that the cookie crumbs of her thinking
something's going on between them and that's the problem, and
they just sort of dropped it or the way it
was interesting really see it.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Well, they'll pick it back up again in season two, yes,
but they don't for a long time. It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Maybe they had I wonder if even then the writers
had an idea.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well maybe I think they.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Had to see how you were and then they probably
will bring the red head back. She's very crazy, and
you know what I mean, because it's season I do
think that seed was planted with the nightmare and then
Jane coming out and seeing the kiss this morning, it's like,
we want this to be a thing.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
And I think my recollection is they had the idea
that the character of Michael was going to have an
infidelity story, whether it was going to be with Sydney
or Kimberly.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I think they're both. That was already a.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Thing, and so I think that seed was intentionally planted.
They just didn't carry it through for this episode because
there was it was more it.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
But you could have all of these scenes, you could
have played in a way that really made Jane think
there was an affair going on with the secretiveness and
the hiding things. She walks into this scene and says,
you lied, and he goes what and she goes the
run to make me feel better? Right, So I just
think they chose a different way to pry It was.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Just the seed. But you're right, they didn't flush it out,
they didn't run with it, They just planted it.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
They definitely good writing that hooks you in, you know
what's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
They got to just lay it out.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
So then we're back at Joe's apartment where Alison is
there and she's listening to Joe. She's shocked to hear
her story about going out with Charles, and Joe insists
that she's surprised too, but that Charles without the drinking
is actually the version that she originally fell in love with.
So she tells Alison she's just gonna let things happen
without any anticity, patient, and she's really considering this. So

(42:02):
then there's a knock at the door. Allison gets up
and lets Jake in, and she quickly tells Jake, hey,
you know, a gallery wants to see more of Joe's work,
and Jake says great and asks, are you guys going
to Jean's surprise party? And Alison says she wouldn't miss it,
but Joe says she can't make it.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, And this was sweet too, because you can tell
that Alison is worried about Jake, like she's trying to
keep it light and make it light because now she
knows that Joe's having feelings for her ex. Yeah, so
that was really sweet. She picked a difference, like so
much compassion for Jake, who's so sweet.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, I know you were running interference for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
And then Joe says, he's like, so do you want
to go to this? Would you want to go to
the surprise party?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Maybe together?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
And she's like yeah, I can't. No, she goes yeah, thanks,
it was something such a blow off life. It's just
the gall the gallery. It was the gallery. And then
he goes, oh, congratulations, yeah, thanks.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Yeah, Oh yeah, she was just confused and torn and
in an awkward spot. So yeah, he says he was
hoping they could go together. She says sorry, and he
wishes her luck with the gallery. He leaves with his
tale between his legs, and Joe says to Alison some advice,
never go out with anyone in the building.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
She's like, who me, I wasn't thinking that I.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Was going to tell you this same So we're back
at Allison and Billy's apartment, speaking of which, where Michael
and Billy are putting Jean's birthday cake in Billy and
Allison's fridge for the surprise party, and Michael tells Billy
the plan is for Sydney to bring Jane to Shooters.
She'll bring her to Case studio for the surprise. Then
Allison walks in and Michael leaves, saying, don't forget the cake.

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Allison says, hey, we're bringing the cake, and Billy retorts,
I'm bringing the cake.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Good for him.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Actually we're just room made yes, and Alison is like
annoyed that he's still mad and says, this is ridiculous.
We go to things together all the time, and it's fine.
We can go to things as friends, and Billy says, fine,
we'll go to jeans party together, but separately, and maybe
this time I'll get lucky.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah. I love he just doesn't hold it back, does it.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I just love it when he's so like sort of.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Like calling her out in a very good way.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
So then we see Jane and Sidney at their girls'
night at Shooters. They're shooting pool and Sidney tells.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Jidney is on a very cute little red dress, little
baby tall dress.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Remember those like bright red.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
You could wear that now, that's one of those things
you could absolutely wear. Now maybe not, but someone right,
someone it was.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
It was super cute and like red we've always talked about,
like when somebody's you know, up.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
From to go.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Although I do notice it later in the scene almost
everybody's wearing red. So Alison and Billy are also.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Is taking a turn, just saying we're all all.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Up to no good.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So she says, you know, we should have had a
girl's night like this just to talk, and Jane's really
not into it, and Sidney's annoyed by that reaction, and
she tells Jane, you know, Jane, you never change, and
Jane says, neither do you, sid and then the fight
starts to go and Sidney complains that Jane still thinks
of her as a little kid, and Jane's tells sid

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that everyone in the family always had to pick up
the pieces after Sid's wreckage, and sid says, well, everyone
always ganged up on her, and Jane disagrees and tells
Sidney that she's starting to get in the way, and
Sidney replies, again, my fault, and she says maybe Jane
is blaming Sidney for everything that's not working in her
life and that Jane can't accept that Sidney's doing so well.

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Jane says she's not blaming sid but that sid says
she knows Jane dumps her real feelings behind Sid's back,
and she asks Jane, why does there always have to
be this tension and why can't you just be happy
for me. Jane says to sid that she thinks she's
trying to steal her life and that she's always been
jealous of her, and Sidney says, what I'm that terrible,

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and Jane responds that Sidney has picked this fight and
deliberately is provoking her and this night was just a mistake.
She gets up and leaves, telling sid she's going home,
and Sydney doesn't stop her.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
And the audience is like, oh, surprise party.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Wait, But then we see her wheels turn and there's
a very faint smile on Sydney's face as Jane walks away,
and she doesn't make her come back. So then we
cut to the studio, the design studio, where they're waiting
for this surprise birthday party. Surprises in full swing. Michael's
looking at his watch waiting for her, and Billy walks
in with the cake, candying it off to Michael, saying
I'm getting a beer, and he ignores Allison, who's walking

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in behind him.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
So did we drive together?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
You must have, but very separate.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
But he was bringing the cake and you're very.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Separate, as he said. So Michael sees Sidney walking up
to the door and he gathers everyone together to greet Jane,
but Sydney walks in alone, smiling, telling everyone Jane isn't
coming and that she and Jane had a fight.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
She seems very happy about it, like so happy. So yeah,
she's just so like we had a Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
She's she was very pleased to announce it in here
I Am so funny, and Michael is exasperated and he
leaves to go find Jane Sydney, saying, well, she started it,
and then she heads off to get a beer. Alison
goes over to Jake at the party, who seems very distracted,
and she assures him that he's doing all that he can.

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And Jake tells Alison that he has never told Joe
exactly how he feels about her, and that he hasn't
felt this way before about anyone, so he's really struggling.
He decides to leave the party. He's getting on his motorcycle.
Billy and Allison both follow him outside of the parking lot,
wearing red I might add, and Allison very passionately tries

(47:38):
to convince him to give her space and just let her.
You can't do this, don't go This isn't the way
to do it. Yeah, But Jake says no, and he
drives off into the night on his motorcycle and Billy
Allison watch him.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Go and I assumed, did you not that he was
going to interrupt Joe.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
It seems like like he was going to go about me.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's not going to just this happening.
He's so afraid I'm going to choose my ex.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, so he's going to find you in Los Angeles.
I assume he's.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Going to go to restaurant.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Yeah, we know he's not got you know, find my friends.
He doesn't. He can't find her that way.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
We got to the hotel lobby at night, where Charles
and Joe are at a table and Charles is telling
Joe again he calls her Beth that he's been honest
with her ever since he's been there, but admits there
wasn't enough honesty in their lives before, and Joe points
out that they never talked before. Charles asks her if
there's anyone new in her life?

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Okay, all right, we just.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Need to stop because there's universal laws around this. If
an ex or anybody ever asked.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
You, so, is there anyone new? What do you say?
Not your business or no? I know you never ever
give in to the come on. I just want to know.
I'm just curious, and you.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Never tell them there's someone else that you're interested in that.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
She does sort of try to say, well, it doesn't matter,
but she doesn't say no. She just said to the
master's such a sucker, and he says, well, I just
want to know. I just want to know if I
can handle the news. And so she tells him about Jake, saying, well,
it's nothing I would call serious, and Jake is very
different from you more rough edges, she says, and Charles
that guy is.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
The guy in the building. That yeah, it's him, And.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Charles says, you know, I'm not jealous, and he tries
to show Joe just how steady his hand is to
prove jealous, and then you see him slowly close it
into a fist.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
He was like, that is not I mean huge misting.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
But am I right? You don't ever tell anyone it's
you see to have a.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Separate section called dating rules by Daphney.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
That's right, because you know what, I've been there and
done that, and I've made all the mistakes and made
some triumphs, and I'm happy to help anybody. And I
will say if anyone, if an ext ever asked you.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I just want to know. I'm just curious. You never
say yes, all right, So.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Joe's mistake is saying yes, And we cut to the
design studio again at the surprise party, where Michael brings
Jane in the door and everyone yells surprise. We can
see that she's not really surprised. Michael explains that she
had to tell Jane just to get her over there,
and so she thanks everyone for coming, then finds sid
immediately until Sid that she needs to be out of

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the apartment by tomorrow night, and that they don't get along,
they never will, and that it's life and I'm tired
of fighting it. Sidney tells Jane she won't have to
wait until tomorrow night, and she heads from the door.
So we cut to the courtyard. Later that night, Joe
is walking alongside the pool where Jake is swimming laps.
He gets out of the pool, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Which is not what Alison and Billy thought they were
stopping him from doing.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
By the way, No, he went home.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
There to go do last Yeah, but look she found
him and he tells Joe.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I figured she's isn't this where she's wearing her really
cool smoking jacket yet And.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
She's wearing the really cool smoking jacket I thought in
the scene with Alison.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I noticed she's wearing it now because I know she's
in the next scene.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah, it's very cool.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Joe had great wardrobe for this.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
She could have had like a cigarette with a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Could have borrowed one from Sydney and an apple. It's
a lot to do, but it's worth it.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Joe says that she's been meaning to talk to him,
but that she hasn't had anything to say. She says,
and he tells her don't worry about it, and Joe
can see that he's mad. Jake admits that he's angry, saying,
I'm scared to death that I just fell in love
with someone that I'm going to lose before we even
get started.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Okay, And then Joe doesn't acknowledge that he said I
just fell in love with someone.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Right, No, she gets she gets sort of angry.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
It was he's a little so beautifully how it first
gets out of the pool, just to remind her what
she might be missing.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
And falling a lot with you?

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Why, Yeah, this is dawns And yet she becomes angry
about that for some reason, and she.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Says, there's no acknowledgment, there's not even like the worst answer,
which is thank you.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
No, she says, instead, I shouldn't have come to talk
to you, and she turns to go and Jake is
upset that Joe is running away again, and he calls
her out for that. He reminds Joe that when he
met her, she wanted to rediscover herself and make it
on her own, and now she's running back to the
same things she left, and Joe pissed, probably because he's
telling the truth. She screams at him, this isn't fair,

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to which Jake replies, tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Joe tells Jake go to hell, and she runs upstairs,
closing her door and crying inside her A partner, you see,
she's totally struggling with all of this.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
That is related quickly, That escalated quickly. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
So back at Allison and Billy's apartment, Billy is eating
on the couch watching TV when Alison walks in in
her cozy blue.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Bathrobe iconic bathroom yep, and.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
She turns off the TELL vision sits right in front
of it, blocking it, telling Billy that there's some sort
of odd jealousy between them and there's no reason that
they can't go places together as friends, and Billy tells Alison,
you're blowing things out of proportion, and I get it,
you know, it's okay, you're more attracted to him. It's
okay if you're not attracted to me, and he says,
you know, that's okay because I'm not attracted to you either,

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so don't sweat it. But he wonders aloud, perhaps.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Oh, Danny Boy couldn't close the deal after all, Danny boy.
So Alison asks Billy Boy exactly how he would close
the deal, and.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Billy takes that bait. He tosses his snacks down and
he jumps up to show Alison just how he would
ply her with her favorite snacks and play her favorite
sexy music. And then he spins Alison around and tells
her maybe he'd even impress her with his famous monkey impersonation.
Alison is laughing hysterically. Billy swoops her up in his arms,
throws her down on the couch, leaning over her while

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she is breathless and smiling, and Billy pointedly says, women
love it sense of humor, and he leaves her and
he says good night, Alis and buddy, old pal.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
And it's so cute because he's telling her right. He
knows what she likes, he knows her music. He's funny
and adorable. And then leaves her literally breathless, leaves her
literally breathless alone.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
On the couch.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
It's a savvy move to go with the humor angle
as opposed to like the straight on seductive anger Willow.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
It also, as you said, like the dichotomy between their
stuff was going on with Jake and Joe is so good,
like dark and serious and intense and then monkey impression.
It's such a nice balance.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Well, we get to see Andrew uses little soccer skills too,
because he like flips the snack bag and catches it.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Yes, like total Andrew's great.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
When he gets this opportunity to be physical and an
adorable thing so charming, Alison is left really to rethink
her choices.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
M hmm.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
So then we cut to Joe's apartment later that night,
where she's awakened by someone banging loudly at her front door.
She asks through the door who is it, and it's Charles.
He says he wants to come talk to her, and
she unwisely opened the door. He comes barreling into Joe's
apartment and Joe realizes very quickly he's been drinking. He
shouts at her that she had no business screwing around
with a bum downstairs, and Joe tells him to leave immediately,

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and he refuses. Charles gets more angry, grabbing Joe and
flinging her around, spewing vitriol at her, and Joe threatens
to call the police, but he tears the phone off
the wall, grabbing Joe some more and telling her that
she's ungrateful and selfish and he's rageful and that he
was humiliated when Joe left him, and he says she
owes him, and she tries to rip her clothes as
she tries to get away from him. Just awful, and

(55:33):
Joe's begging him to leave, and she finally just just
crumpled to the floor and she's telling Charles that he
needs help, and Charles finally finally lets up, and he
tells Joe she's not even worth it, that she was
nothing before she met him and she has nothing again.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And we get a little insight into what their marriage
really was like, right and at this is that moment
you're trying. They make all these promises, make all these promises,
and you go, Okay, one more chance, and then you're
back in this moment again and going, oh, it's.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Awful because she triggered some jealousy in him. The biggest
kind of jealousy is when he said is there another man?

Speaker 3 (56:06):
That was very purposeful, but.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
It would have been something, right, It wasn't about anything
she did. It would have been something because this is
who he really is true at some point, right.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
But I think that also, you know, ask any jealous
and secure man.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
That's the main trigger. So that's you know.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
This is just his cycle, like he's always go back
to it.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
But I'm just saying, like you got to really see
how the written story was.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
That was a specific question.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
This is the result, and now the whole world gets
to see this tough, cool woman who we've seen her
on Melow's place in this in this apartment building is
absolutely destroyed into rubble by this man.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
You know, really scary, very scary. I had to I
watched this a few times.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
I just zoomed through it, and he was terrific in
this scene to just that rage that came out he was.
I mean, he had so much to do and it
was physical and stuff like that. It's just terrifying scene
and he just played it very incastantly.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
We do know, and we say that a lot like
when guest stars come in and they're coming into a
new set. It's really impressive when they can take over
like that and really be that pass like.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
They own the place.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, they own that character.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yeah, yeah, admire that strong.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
As he leaves the apartment, Jake is just on his
way up the stairs and Jake asks Joe in the
doorway are you okay? And Joe tells Jake and Charles
to both just leave her alone, and she slams her door.
Then Charles brushes by Jake on the stairs saying, funny,
I don't see any rough.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Edges, refers to what she said.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, there is someone. He's different than you, a little
rough around the edges. She said that to him, So
he's insulting. He's very purposely saying, she talked to me
about you, and I'm going to insult you and you
know out her at the same time.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah, because you see how Jake received it and heartbreaking shoes.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
You can't let Jake come, who's actually wanting to come
and see you and take care of you, because you're
so upset and angry, right, So you say both of
them leave you alone, and the audience is.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Pomp no, no, no, let Jake up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Can you imagine what Charles would have done if you
if Joe had said, yeah, come on in Jake, like
this would not be the time to accept his niceness.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Very good point.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
So back at Jane and Michael's apartment in the morning,
Sydney is all packed up and she's about to leave.
Jane comes out in her pg's saying wait. Sydney gives
her a note saying, you know, I just like to
leave without a lot of fanfare, and then she admits
to Jane that she let her walk out of shooters
and that she had wanted to ruin Jane's party, saying
she just couldn't stop herself and that she knows it

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was just a chance to hurt.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
I really liked Finally.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I liked seeing Sidney admit the how manipulative, how that
comes from her insecurity that you have said, you know,
but I liked her finally I could exhale, just breathe
with her going Okay, she's going to be honest here.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
It was like the.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Only the only time I've seen her be kind of
real with that behavior.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
It was really important for the character to be able
to say I did this, You're right, and I'm awful
and I don't know why I do it. I just
can't stop.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah, yes, yeah, and then open the door for Jane
to talk about her part. It's a really sweet I
related as a sister, Like I really related to this scene.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yeah too.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Yeah, and Sidney admits that she always wanted to be
like Jane, and she knows her parents are just going
to be disappointed in her for flunking out of another school,
but she says, you know, at least I may have
some direction now. And Jane then offers that Michael could
drive her to the airport, but Sidney says Billie's going
to drive her in his cab, and she goes to leave,
and Jane stops her at the door and says, I
love you said, and Sydney turns back to hug Jane,

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saying me too, before she hurries.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Out the door. And it's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
The other thing I liked about this scene is they're
talking about the roles they were assigned when they're young,
and you know, what do we do the rest of
our lives in therapy? We try to sort of feel
this apart because we're still playing these assigned roles. Yeah,
and I thought this scene did that really beautifully.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
So then we cut to Matt's apartment where he's doing
sit ups on the floor and Ron is asking him
why he barely talked to her last night at this
prize party, and Matt just tries to deflect, but he
finally admits that he's just feeling scared to not only
find someone for himself like she has, but that he's
also really afraid of losing Ronda, and Ronda says they
won't lose the friendship that they have, and Matt tells

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Ronda that he really is happy for her, and he
asks to be her best man, so sweet she agrees
that wow, having a best man, that'd be really cool,
and she says to hell with tradition and they hug.
We cut to the hotel lobby where Joe walks up
and finds Charles at the desk while he's checking out
of the hotel, and Joe tells him that she is

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filing for divorce, she's getting on with her life, and
that he owes her this chance, at which time Charles
pulls out a way of cash, saying I owe you,
and he gives her a wad of money, saying there
that's what I pay all my whores.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
So the first time I watched this, I just was like, oh, okay.
The second time I watched it, I noticed that he's
getting change from the concierge from the desk, and I'm
hearing you hear the extra the guy like counting out
the bills, because I froze that, how big are those bills?
Just like I hear good one, I'm like ones. Because

(01:01:08):
he's counting out the money. Then Lyndon grabs the money
and goes here, you can have it. But I'm sure
it was wasn't one. It was one hundreds, right, two hundred,
three hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Of course it was. Well you tell your he's just
so defensive. That's when I paid all my It's just
so nasty and so nast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
The moment is she takes it, and you're going, is
she going to take it? Because she's taking the insult.
If she takes the money, you know, she.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Could throw it at him, she could walk away without it.
But she takes it, and you think, oh, she got
so I'm thinking, well, yeah, take it, spend it. You know,
it's five hunt whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Dignity wise, you don't want her to take the money
because he calls her a whore, but she's and then.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Martley insults him right back by handhands in the bellman
on the way out, saying, this is for you, mister
Reynold's big tipper and not much else.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Yes, yeah, she gets the last and then she stalks
off and he noticed that she's back to her self
in this scene. She walks in with a leather vest
that like long sleeve black under her black jeans and
uh so she's had it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
She's like, okay, I tried, and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You know, she had to do a little research and
she discovered what she knew and she.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Has a dignity and she got the last word, and yes,
she's put her foot down. So then we cut to
the courtyard where Jake is cleaning his motorcycle next to
the pool while Joe looks on very sexily leaning over
his bike.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
You see that you pull out that it's a close up.
You see this the hand kind of like moving the rag.
He reaches up for the rag and you see the
hand like move it the rag away just out of
his reach.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Like she's playing with him, and he's like, what's going on,
and she's like, when you're done doing those will you
can do it, He's like cleaning the pipes. She is
back to her old self, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
So then she tells him that Charles is going back
to New York and she's filing for divorce. And she
tells Jake she really appreciates the space that he had
given her, that Jake gave her, but she'll also need
a little bit of time before committing to anyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Jake says, he just doesn't how much time I know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
And Jake has a cute line. He says that he
just doesn't want to lose his place in line, and
then Joe asks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Him to write a good line, right, and she smiles.
She's like, you got your your place secured, don't you worry?

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Joe as a line, but I was thinking Grant has
never had to wait in line to the front.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Way at the friend of the Joe asks him to
ride up the coast later and he agrees and she
heads towards her stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Okay, everyone go ahead, describe this moment, the hot moment.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Jake stops her and he goes over and he very
sexily and gently kisses her and says, welcome home.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Gently, But you had my reaction I was like, looked
at your reaction the same thing. You're like, wow, amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
And he kissed her just enough to have her go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Yeah, and she's still there waiting for more, and he's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Like and then so she sighs and she looks back and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
She grabs the It's like I grabbed the railing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Yeah, steady yourself as you watch up the stairs and
this great line welcome home. Yeah, and that's the end
of our episode. Ever, episode was getting very exciting, very fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Oh there's a great picture of you with a hair
poof and the white collar that you yeah, my feather
so yeah, I think that was our her eagle feathers
that you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
I think that was the wackiest outfit of the episode.
It's kind of all legal. Look, I thought this scrunchy
up do you really added to it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I just feel like you're you see Sidney kind of
like mini losing it, like she is about to climax
and all of her craziness and evil doing in which
she does. And then finally Jane kisses, you know, kicks
her out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
It's great little mini art because I know you come back.
But it was like great in itself. It's kind of
like wackitude, all crazy. I just see.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I just think like the characters defined as like searching,
like trying to find herself.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Right, so these you justifying it? Oh, I I think
it was there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
I think she was like, I don't know who I am,
I don't know what I want, and like her trying,
you know, the trying on of the wardrobe and stuff
is like that's I'm I'm willing to try this and
I want to you know, and I maybe this is
who I and I think, yeah, I just think that
left so much room for the character to come back
in like so much space.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
But that's what you're doing the whole time of year here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Yeah, you're you're you're trying on everything you're doing, you're
seeing and all those all your storylines are like all
over the place, out there doing this and doing that,
and you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yeah, so I love that about the character. But we
get to see a mini version who she's going to
be in just.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
A flash, and then she's gone for the rest of
the season.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
So that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
I said, Mercet, I already miss you for the rest
of the season. So luckily we get to see you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Luckily, we get to talk about other people. We can
we can, we can talk about each other.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Well, yeah, so this is always fun.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
We're gonna drop a mini episode or Melrose Minute will
be at the end of the week, so don't forget
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Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
And we love your dms. We usually get to your
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Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Yeah wait, all right, see you guys, So love you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
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