September 25, 2023 • 48 mins
On today’s episode, Jason discusses what’s next for the Dallas Cowboys following their shocking loss to the Arizona Cardinals, whether the Dolphins hanging 70 on the Broncos says more about Miami or Denver, where his beloved New York Jets go from here after yet another ugly offensive performance, which NFL head coach made the worst coaching decision of the day and much more! Finally, J-Mac closes the show with his own Best Bets for tonight’s Monday Night Football double-header.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight
Fire for Monday, September twenty fifth. What an incredible weekend
in sports. Saturday College Football Sunday NFL. We got Taylor
Swift references coming up out the wazoo. I actually sat
with my daughter and we went through Taylor Swift songs
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that I could work into the podcast and on the
herd later today. Let's see how many you can find.
You got it? Honestly, you gotta be a big Taylor
Swift fan to know. I mean, and there's ancillary stuff
that I don't even know where to start, folks, I
don't you know. So many things happened this weekend. For instance,
my son, you know, he's playing in chess tournaments. He
enters a chess tournament. It's close by here out here
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in LA and he wins the thing. Unbelievable. I mean,
I posted it on the Instagram. He won his first
chess tournament. So he's on cloud nine. His ratings are up.
You know, he's got like a national rating and a
rating in California.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
He's all geeked.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, and your boy played back to back basketball games
pick up Saturday and Sunday morning, first time in I
don't know, over a year, and I held a pretty
damn good you know, I had this surgery last month
and then Sunday hits and not a great Sunday and fantasy.
But I want to remind people, the diehard listener to
this podcast. Every Sunday, we watch the games, we talk
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about him, and I give an early read on the games.
I like, I told you guys on Monday that I
love the Buffalo Bills. I told you guys on Monday
that I love the Miami Dolphins. I added that I
loved the Chargers, Okay, and then what happens during the week,
Jason reading about the games, seeing where the line moves,
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Jason turns into a woos when it comes to the contest,
and I'm like, wow, how can I take the bills?
Look at all this money flowing in on Washington. So
I didn't take the bills in the contest. Look at
all this money coming in on Denver? How could I can't.
I gotta respect the sharp money. These guys are betting
one hundred thousand dollars on games. You know, Wow, I
gotta respect that right, and like a woos, I backed
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off those games. So a little frustrating. Two and two
in the contest waiting on Tampa. I mean I could
it could have been a five. And oh, I have
some bad news to report. Okay, the Big Money Survivor Contest.
You guys remember last year. I was in it, like
deep into the season. It was chaos throughout and I
was like a final twenty guy in the contest. I
mean the payout was like eighty one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I was all geeked.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And then I had the Patriots on Minday Night football
against the Bears. Paid usually Belichick owns young quarterbacks and
fields ran wild and I lost.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I was so ticked.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have two entries in this year. This week in
this contest. I picked Jacksonville, big home favorite. I had
them in the contest too, like an ass clown. They
get smoked, okay. And then I had Dallas. They're playing
against Arizona and I know it's a divisional matchup and
it's a week before the Patriots and they just lost
Trayvon Diggs and Jay be careful. I'm like, come on,
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it's Dallas. Their defense is dominant with Josh Dobbs is
gonna do something, and then Dallas lays a massive egg
and folks, in what I think probably is the upset
of the season so far, the Arizona Cardinals as anywhere
twelve thirteen point favorites, sorry, Arizona Cardinals, twelve thirteen point
underdogs shocked the world and beat Dallas by double digits. Okay,
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and folks, if you watch this game like I did,
you had survivor maybe you had some guys in fantasy,
A couple of things jumped out. All the Dallas Cowboy fans'
fears came to reality in this game. First two weeks,
Dallas playing with the lead, DAK riding the defense, a
special teams stake to a lead. They look good, no
pressure on DAK, looked like a super Bowl team. And
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then what happened against Arizona. They fall behind early and
the offense cannot make anything haupt happen early, and all
of a sudden, Arizona's looking kind of sort of frisky,
and then Mike McCarthy strikes in classic Mike McCarthy fashion.
I've got all the numbers here in the second half. Okay,
this is as bad as it gets. The Dallas Cowboys
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drove to the Arizona eight yard line and set off
for a field goal. The next time they got in
Arizona territories, they drove to the four yard line, turnover
on downs. Then they drove to the Arizona eight and
settle for another field goal, then the Arizona six and
dack through an interception. Ballgame, they got inside the Arizona
ten yard line four times and got six points. That's
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how you lose a game. And when Mike McCarthy was
down twelve in the fourth quarter, Rob I've charted this,
he called eight rushes. Down twelve in the fourth quarter.
You need two touchdowns, two touchdowns, and you're running the
ball with Tony Pollard. This is the fear with Dallas.
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Mike McCarthy and Shoddy cannot get the job done. They
are not the man for the job. This is not
how you're beating San Francisco in the playoffs, or the
Eagles or hell, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Maybe like you're not beating them, not with Mike McCarthy
calling this nonsensical nineteen eighties throwback garbage, ultra conservative in
a game they trailed throughout. Dallas never led deck through
forty passes and they rushed the ball I believe thirty
three times. What balance. I mean, you look at the Chargers.
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Justin Herbert throws the ball forty seven times four hundred
yards passing and the Chargers barely survive. Okay, this idea
that McCarthy wants to run the ball constantly to keep
his defense fresh, defense got dump truck by Josh Dobbs.
Like Josh Doobbs was making plays. They were scheming away
from Michael Parson's Like listen, we've been bashing the Arizona Cardinals.
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They're tanking for Caleb Williams. The Arizona Cardinals just took
themselves temporarily out of the Caleb Williams running. I mean,
right now, Chicago is certainly on the track. They are
undeniably the leader in the clubhouse. But this loss for
Dallas is something that you gotta be really concerned about.
You lose Treyvon Diggs for the season, obviously.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's big.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I don't want to hear that as an excuse for
this week. They came out flat on both sides of
the football. McCarthy coached an awful game, and Dak is
not that dude. He's not gonna elevate the players around
him when he needs to have a big comeback. That's
just not in his DNA. He was not making the
plays against a guess a bad Arizona team. We saw
last week Rob Daniel Jones in this exact same spot
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down twenty Daniel Jones storms back. Brian Gable essentially said, Dan,
we can't run the ball. This is act's gotta be
all throwing. And as Daniel Jones rollouts, Daniel Jones scrambles.
They come back and they win the game. Dak Prescott
could not come back and win the football game. And
lo and behold what's up next? The New England Patriots
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coming to Dallas. Folks, I saw this line. This was
the second game I bet Sunday night, the New England
Patriots getting seven in Dallas and Matthew Judon and that
Patriots defense, which has been very good all season. They
were good against Eagles, they were spirited against the Dolphins.
I know they lost that game, but look what they
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did slowing Miami, given what Miami's done to the Chargers
and the Denver Broncos, like they slowed that too of offense.
I know they got run on, but a Patriots getting
seven on the road from a Dallas offense that does
not scare you. Like Patriots have some injuries in the secondary.
I get that, but that was the second game I
bet New England Patriots in Dallas. But then it gets worse.
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So now Dallas is two and one. They play the Patriots.
Let's just say they blow the game and mac Jones
finally make some plays he's not making place. Then they
play the Niners, and these super Bowl bound Cowboys everybody
loves them, suddenly go from two and zero to two
and three. This could spiral quickly, and this was a
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big concern Rob all summer. We said, is McCarthy the
man for the job? I don't know. Everything I saw
has me terrified. And I'm not just saying this because
I hadn't been survivor, but I would be terrified if
I were a Cowboys fan about McCarthy and the offense.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think part of it has to do with you
having them as survivor. I think, you know, just a
little bit has something to do with that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Look.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
They they played terribly, were it not for some other
coaching blunners. We'll get to here in a minute. You know,
this may have been the All Caps big story of
the day on Sunday, but you know, when you have
a team putting up seventy and you have a couple
of coaches making quite possibly some of the worst decisions
in NFL history, you know, the Cowboys have kind of
been able to slit slide under the radar here early
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on Monday morning. I'm not as concerned because I think
that next Sunday will be a get right game for
them and their Their story says that they, you know,
seem to handle mediocre offenses, and as good as that
New England defense is, their offense is not great. So
I think that they, oh what's Arizona's offense, Josh Dobbs is,
They've been plucky. I know that they're, you know, not
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the most talented bunch out there, but throughout three games
they've been they've been okay. I think Josh Dobbs would
you know, be ten times the quarterback that you have
right now with the New York Jets. Just putting that out.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
There, somebody somebody asked me, Josh Dobbs or Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I did, I don't know, Bro I mean, but look,
my big, my big issue with what happened in Dallas.
I mean, you know, they laid an egg. As disappointing
as it is, that's kind of their mo This is
what the Dallas Cowboys do. On one hand, they can
beat a team forty to nothing. In the other hand,
they'll come out and lose to a team that's supposedly tanking.
My big issue with him is something that Dak Prescott
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said after the game. They asked him about the loss
and his performance and so on, and here's part of
his quote, y'all put us on top of the world.
We knew who we are. In that same sense, I'm
sure the media got what it wanted, Dak. I work
in the media, Jason. With this, this show we're doing
here is part of the media. I can promise you
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that nobody in the media was its rooting for you
to lose to the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, the Dallas Cowboys
are good for business. If the Dallas Cowboys are winning
and they're successful, they are great for business. It's part
of the reason why a lot of these TV shows
on FS one and ESPN NFL Network will give you
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a lot of Cowboys coverage throughout the week, even though
they haven't won a Super Bowl. To quote my friend
Rob Parker, since Moby Dick was a guppy, like, we
want them to do well. The ratings are better when
the Cowboys do well. And so when you lay an
egg like that, it's not that anyone's rooting against you.
It's that this is who you are, this is who
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you have been, and it's not that people are taking
and joint out of you losing. It's that we like
to be right and people know what to expect from
the Dallas Cowboys now going back to last thirty years
or so. So that's my big issue with the Dallas Cowboys.
But unlike you, I'm not ready to jump off the
bandwagon just yet.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Do you remember the playoff game two years ago where
they had a billion penalties against San fran Yes, so
against Arizona thirteen penalties one hundred and seven yards Like
that's how is that out on the coach?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Just undisciplined.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh, by the way, the Cowboys defense the mighty defense,
best unit in the league. Josh Dobbs had seven point
five yards per play geez, four hundred yards of offense.
How does that happen Arizona seven point five, seven point
four yards per Carrie seven point four with James Connor
and whoever the hell else. I don't know this Dallas
team listen. NFC is kind of wide open. I think
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the Saints with the car injury, let's see how bad
it is and that loss that's devastating for them. I
think a team to watch could be the Packers.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't know if we'll get to it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, we've led the podcast the last two weeks
because of Miami, and you know, we'd like to be
forward thinking on this podcast. What's next, what's coming? We've
been on Miami. We told you last week did some
machine bad for Denver. What I didn't know was some
of the stuff Mike McDaniel dropped in the post game
that Mike McDaniel grew up in Denver and he was
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once a ball boy for the Broncos. And you know,
McDaniel was a highly thought of coach and the Broncos
had their opening and they didn't reach out to him
at all, and he took that. What do they say
is that the Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Meme where he's and I took that person that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And I saw crazy stat that the Denver Broncos hold up.
The Denver Broncos had on the season sixty nine points.
The Dolphins scored seventy and on in one game. So like,
my family was out somewhere wherever they were on Sunday
and they walk in the door and I have to
tell them the first thing, like you know, they don't really,
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they couldn't tell you five guys on the Dolphins and
they walk in the room like Miami's got seventy points.
I was just like shouting because I'm like and they look.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
At me like is that real?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
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it was like thirty five and then forty two, and
then like you know, it was like the Witching hour
and all this wacky stuff was happening. And then next thing,
I look at my fantasy, you know, I have fantasy
on one screen in the scores, and I see sixty nine.
I was like, no, is that a mistake? And then
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just pouring it on and listen, Sean Payton got a
little snappy. I'm sure you've seen the video where the
reporters like, you know, it's kind of embarrassing to give
up seventy points. How He's like, what's the question next question? Yes,
Peyton's a little salty. Listen, Colin's been all over this.
This could be a Russ Peyton thing. I don't see
how Russ is to blame your defense. Gave up seventy
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points in over seven hundred yards. Nobody in the NFL
scored seventy points in I think sixty something years. I
believe Miami had the best offensive game yardage wise in
the history of the sport. A guy that I gotta
be honest, He's not on my fantasy radar Arcane. What
was his name, Rob?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think it's akin the.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Running back Devin A.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Kane.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So I dropped him before last night? Yes, so you
know I had him on my team. Dropped in and
does this.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're the fantasy savann like, listen, he had He had
some in the preseason. Then he suffered a shoulder injury,
so they really hit him the first two weeks for
making sure he's healthy. Dude came out two hundred yards
rushing and four touchdowns. I was like, is that real?
He had more rushing yards than New York Jets had
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total total against the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It's bad with the Jets. I don't even know if
we're gonna talk about him.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
This Miami teams is filthy. And oh, by the way,
did I mention Jayleen Waddell did not play. They dropped
seventy points without their second best offensive player. And I'm
the genius who benched to for Kirk Cousins in fantasy
because the Vikings and the Chargers were gonna score a
million points.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
By the way, speaking of fantasy and betting.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Last week, one of the early overs was Chargers Vikings
at fifty two. It went up to fifty four, landed
on fifty two. If you didn't get the first number,
you lost. So that's why you got a listen to
the pod on Mondays. Anyways, back to the Miami Dolphins
browbeating Denver. Rob, I don't even think there's like a
takeaway for this For the Broncos. I think you just
got to chalk this up to Okay, we were at
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home against two inferior teams and now we stepped up
in class and holy cow, we are not in that
upper crust. Denver's zero and three, they're not making the playoffs.
It just it's done. I think now you've got to
look forward. How can you salvage this season? Can you?
Is there any takeaways you can have from this blood bath?
Like I don't know, Rob, I don't know where Peyton
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goes from me, Like do you fire vance Joseph Sam
Howell and Washington could not move the football against Buffalo,
and I think they hung thirty eight on Denver last week.
And I mean at some point Vance Joseph like, dude,
this defense was supposed to be ballyhooed with Patrick's certain
they got Randy Gregory. I mean, they can't stop a
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nosebleed right now. It's bad. I don't I don't even
know what the takeaway is from Denver. I guess the
Miami takeaway is that, like they're really, really good. But
the first bet that I made, first bet.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
For what are the week four?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I took the Bills at home minus two and a
half against Miami. I think people are gonna be stunned
that Buffalo's favored. I just want to remind you one thing, Rob,
when Miami played out of division, they moved the ball
at will against the Chargers. And what you just saw
the Denver thing when they played the Patriots, who were familiar,
the Patriots were ready five and six defensive backs. Miami
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still won, but they held him in check.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I think Miami scored what twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think Buffalo is gonna have some stuff cooked up.
My guess would be this is a lower scoring game
than people think, and I think Buffalo wins it, but
we're way early on that Rob seventy to twenty.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Any sweeping takeaways.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Just too well. First off, shout out to the Miami Dolphins.
The only reason I was even competitive, you know, in
my fantasy league because I ran into a couple of
buzz saws named Davonte Adams and the Bills defense on Sunday,
So you know, what are you gonna do? But no,
I mean they they scored more points on Sunday seventy
than twelve teams have combined through the first three weeks
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of the season. They are unreal. And people were saying,
you know, I read the comments ladies and gentlemen. I
read the comments on YouTube when you you had this
take about them playing basketball on grass after week one
and breast you were and I was like, oh, it's
just the Charger, It's just the you know, one game.
You're over here jumping to conclusions and it's like, no,
we you know, contrary to what you might think, Jason
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knows a thing or two about sports, and he knew
after Week one, like, look, this offense is legit to
as a trigger man and this system especially is deadly
because he throws anticipation. He's very accurate, So kudos to them.
I'm looking forward to Sunday. I agree with you. Against Buffalo,
I would lean and under. I don't know what the
total is yet, but I would lean it under. When
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you have that, I.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Think fifty four and it's been down three and a
half here.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, So I would lean under because you know the
familiarity with each other, and usually when you have two
teams that are both upper echelon teams, it's almost like
a feel out process through the first quarter and a half.
So I would lean under on the flip side. In Denver,
who is Sean Payton gonna blame now? Okay, before the season,
Before the season, it was the previous coaching regime. It
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was Nathaniel Hackett. He did the worst job in the
history of sports. That's why this team struggled. That's why
this team sucked. Then after I believe Week two, last
week it was Russell Wilson and he was too slow
getting the calls in, and we got a dumb down
the playbook or a dumb down the relay so we
can get these calls in. He's gonna have to wear
a wristband like he's some kind of rookie quarterback. So
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it's Russell Wilson's fault. Now after week three, you know
defense give it was seventy points, Well, it must be
Advance Joseph's fault because you know he didn't get the
defense ready to play, and everyone knows I wanted Vic
Vangio and it just didn't really work out that way.
At some point, the buck has to stop with the
head coach and Sean Payton, which I've I'm trying to
tell you guys since we started this podcast, is just
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Mike McCarthy with a better pr staff. That one season
hanging out on the lot with you and Colin and
Glad Haatning with all the execs s over there at Fox,
did such a one point eighty on his reputation that
people assumed that he was God's gift to coaching, when
if you just look at the numbers and you look
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at the wins and losses and the postseason, he and
Mike McCarthy are like the exact same guy. The difference
is is that he had a fun offense with Drew
Brees at the Controls, but for some reason, the record
there was the exact same record as the one that
everyone hated when Mike McCarthy wasn't Green Bay with Aaron
Rodgers because it wasn't as pretty to watch. It was
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Aaron Rodgers doing Aaron Rodgers things. Somehow, when you have
all the flash and pizaz of Sean McCarthy and the
whole hum no motion, just beat your man offense to
Mike McCarthy, they met and had the exact same record.
Sean Payton. I believe he's still a good coach. I'm
not gonna say he's not a good coach, but at
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some point you have to accept responsibility yourself for what's
going on. His first words out of his mouth, instead
of arguing with the reporters about how bad they looked
was that loss is on me. I didn't have my
team ready to play. I need to have more of
a hands on approach on the defense, if that's what
it takes. I need to have more of a hands
on approach with the special teams. Pick whatever he's got
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to say. Instead, it's defensive, it's snippy, and that's not
what you would expect from a guy who's been around
the block as long as he has so I'm disappointing
to Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Question is this well? I was thinking there was some
bad blood between these two McDaniel and Denver, Peyton running
his mouth, but Rob is I hate to say this
is Peyton potentially potentially turning into a maybe an Urban
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Meyer in Jacksonville situation?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh, I mean that's the extreme version of it. I
don't know. You might say he's on the same path,
but I think Urban Meyer was so far down that
path that they're not quite you know, in the same
area code. They might be on the same.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Denver is in Chicago this week? Do you want to
guess where the number is?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Ew Denver minus.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
One winless teams Denver minus three and wow, which I
think speaks to volumes about Chicago who looked. I mean, Rob,
they I don't know how much you watched in the game.
I know the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey stuff was everywhere,
and Walter Payton's son, weirdly, you know, Bears guy, I
guess was in the building and got a video of
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Taylor Swift leaving the locker room or leaving the facility
with Kelsey, and that's you know, going everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But like It's just.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's strange how the Bears could not.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Move the football, literally moved the football in.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
The first half against the Chiefs started starting defense. They
didn't do anything until it was like benchwarmers in in
the final, I don't know, eight minutes or whatever. They
can't move the football, and like this idea that Remember
there was a video Friday of Justin Fields hugging the
offensive coordinator like, I don't know, guys, it looks bad,
like I don't know if Field's is totally broken and
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it's even repairable. I saw him run a couple times,
which he looked fine, but otherwise like it was really bad.
I don't the Bears are a train wreck. And I
was wait, listen, you own you own it when you're
way wrong. And in the offseason I thought the Bears
had a shot. It's looking like eber Flus ain't the
dude getsy, doesn't look like the guy. I think it's
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a total clean house. Now, remember they have Carolina's pick
and their own. Carolina lost to Seattle. I had Carolina
like a well, I didn't hate the pick in the contest.
Dalton through the most passes of his career. I have
some I don't think anybody cares. But basically, Andy Dalton
played his butt off, and when he's playing like that,
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you're like, why are they even playing Bryce Young? I mean,
Dalton had more passes of ten air yards in one
game than Bryce Young had in the first two games combined. Like,
it's just a bad scene for Bryce Young to not
be able to do anything. And then Andy Dalton comes
in and they're moving the ball up and down the field.
The defense is just too beat up and they got hurt.
But the point is Carolina is oh and three and
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the Bears are oh in three, and those two picks
could both end up being top five next year. I mean,
I think Fields, I don't know Rob. If I say
he's on the clock, that's probably we're probably past.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That, right, Oh yeah, we're way past that at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah. I don't think the new guy, whoever it is,
I don't even think eber Flus is gonna like this
looks like a three wind disaster. I mean, maybe they
turn around, but I think they've lost thirteen games in
a row dating back to last year. And oh, by
the way, I totally forgot this is a good stat
on Russell Wilson and Denver. He is four and fourteen
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straight up as a starter in Denver. That's staggering. I mean,
Russell Wilson was incredible in Seattle. He was amazing, and
I don't want to hear was a legion of Boom
or Pete Carroll. Russell Wilson always made place. He had
Lockett and Metcalf. But rob is just staggering how far
he's fallen. I don't know. Do we need to talk
about the Jets, Robber?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
No, I'll tell you what it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Was, go you know what.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Instead of me sounding off just because I'm probably gonna
get angry and starts dropping f bombs, I'm calling up
the numbers here. Eleven yards in the first quarter. They
had sixty yards of offense heading into the fourth. The
Jets were out gained in the first half two hundred
and sixteen to nine. At one point, Keenan Allen of
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the Charger, who's had more passing yards than Zack Wilson.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And this was deep into the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And still, despite all that ineptitude, rob the Jets and
Zach Wilson had three chances in the final like four
minutes to tie or take the lead, and it didn't happen.
So I'll give it to you first, because uh.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I don't know. I don't want to get egg too aggry.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Look, unfortunately for you and the rest of the Jets,
faithful and folks like me who picked them to make
the playoff because I thought A.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Rodgers is going to be there, well yeah, I don't
give that get.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But they have a Zach Wilson problem. It's nothing new.
It's not earth shattering, and I don't think anyone's going
to be like, oh wow, that's a profound take. No, Like,
it's pretty obvious. And they've had a Zach Wilson problem
now for over a year. They addressed it last season
they benched him for Mike White, was a Chris Streveler,
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and I believe Joe Flacco none of those. Well, I
think Mike White may be a backup, but I think
the other two guys might be out of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
With the dog completely he threw a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
PA shout out to Mike White. Look, the other two
guys I believe are out of the NFL. And they
knew then that they have a better chance to win
with a washed up Flacco. A never has been with
or never will be with Chris Streveler and at best
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a career backup in Mike White. They knew that they
had a better chance to win with those three guys
than Zack Wilson, and they decided, for whatever reason, even
after they got Aaron Rodgers, that rather than cutting ties
with Zach Wilson and just getting a serviceable career backup
or a veteran backup, hell, bringing back Joe Flacco, whatever,
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get Andy Dalton in here, it doesn't matter. They said,
We're going to try to salvage Zach Wilson under the
guys that have a year sitting behind Aaron Rodgers are
two years he's gonna regain his mojo and he's gonna
be the guy we thought he was. That that ship
is sailed, and they sailed last season. They should have
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realized that then and cut their losses. He is not
an NFL quarterback. He's not a starter. He is not
a backup. He should not be in an NFL roster,
point blank period. And the longer that Robert Salah who
said on Sunday after the loss, he's still our guy.
We have faith in Zach Wilson. Jessina Anderson pressured him
about it afterwards and says, why are you so confident
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in him? Like, what is it that makes you think
that he's the guy? And he says, he give us
the best chance to win. The longer you keep the
charade going, the more you're gonna eventually lose that locker
room guys like Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Michael Carter. You
saw them blowing up on the sidelines already in front stration.
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Maybe not directed as Zach Wilson in general, but they're frustrated.
The longer this charade continues, the more likely it is
that Robert Salad loses his job at the end of
the season.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, I'm glad you won on the so I
don't have to cover any of the ground.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I agree with everything.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
After Rogers got hurt, I don't know if it was
the next day or two days later, but we did
talk about Kirk Cousins on this podcast and a lot
of so it's weird. Rob Viking fans are saying, why
why are we giving you Cousins? What do you talk about?
We're still in the mix. We got a chance, maybe
they got Carolina this week. I came close to betting
the Vikings, but I'm not ready to. By the way
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Vikings last year eleven or zero in close games in
the regular season this year, Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And three funny that works out, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Fire, very funny.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Kirk Cousins to the Jets is not gonna work, Jason,
because he's gonna have to get up to speed with
the offense and it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Take a while.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Okay, maybe sure, kirk Cousins is a pro. He's also
looking for a big payday. Like if the GM has
not called the Vikings about Cousins at this point, they're
just they're not They're not doing their job. That's just
I think that's obvious. I don't want to hear this
nonsense that Hey, Carson Wentz called us and Matt Ryan
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called us.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
F those guys. You don't want that garbage in there.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
What are they gonna do?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Oh, Jason kirk Cousins isn't mobile. I'm fully aware of that.
I know, get a mobile quarterback. Go, We're aware. You
just gonna find a mobile quarterback. They just out there
on the streets. Yeah, let's bring in that guy. He
you know, he ran the Wings. Let's bring it in
like that. That doesn't exist. You can't do that. It's
not a it's not a like viable plan. At one
point in the third quarter, I was ready for the
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Jets to go wildcat, Rob. Just snap it to Breeze Hall,
snap it to Dalvin Cook. That's our best bet. But
they couldn't block bar More. McKay Beckton, of course, got
just steamrolled left on an island one on one. How
are we leaving? See now I'm going to the weeds,
but how are we leaving mackay Beckton one on one
against Judon from our own three yard line. We did
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the same thing with Michael Parsons. And oh, by the way,
Dwayne Brown repeatedly by himself against Parsons ends up getting hurt.
He's questionable. He's questionable.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He's questionable.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh he's going on, IR. It's like, come on, we
know what they're trying to do. They're trying to trade
for a left tackle. Oh, our guy's got that hurt.
We'll just give you peanuts. Oh no, he's really heat
or heard he's on IR?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Were ft, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I guess the more interesting question, Rob, do you think
Rogers could have had success behind what's going on with
the offensive line now or no.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Maybe not to the extent that I thought that they
could have. But even some of the mistakes that they're
making are not just the offensive line, like like that
was a big talking point. I want to get sidetracked.
But like on Saturday with the Colorado Oregon game, the
broadcast kept saying, well, man, that offensive line is really
getting worked. I'm not saying that they were doing a
great job, but the back end is what was really
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slowing it down. Because the book on Shadeur Sanders right
now is that he is a slow going through his progressions.
That he's deadly accurate. He throws a good ball, but
right now, he doesn't get all the way across the
field as quickly as you would like. It's why he
gets sacked so often because he's you know, takes a
beat longer than you would expect of a guy of
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his caliber to get rid of the ball. And Zach
Wilson has that same problem. He doesn't trust what he
sees and then when he does.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
He.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know, reads the question wrong or whatever it is,
Like he throws in the coverage, he makes bad decisions.
There was a play on it and I think it
was fourth and ten late in the game, he throws
a past one yard past the line of scriptae. Yeah,
like that is quarterback one oh one and those mistakes
are not going to get made by Aaron Rodgers, right,
So yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
He's seen every zone. Like you could throw a zone
at Zach Wilson and he needs to study it. In
the offensive line can't hold up Rogers.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
He's seen everything.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
He's seen everything you want throw at him. I think
he could have. He would have obviously done better. I
don't know how much better, but I think they would
be at least more competitive. Even though they had a chance,
they were not competitive. But it's interesting. It's like you say,
you know reading the zones, and like, so, my son,
I told you about the chess tournament. And it's weird
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because when he plays, he's able to read the board
and what guys are doing and what's coming next, and
like I'm looking at it. And when I'm on a
basketball court, I can read passes. I know what's happening,
but on the chess board, it's a totally different read.
And I I'm like, oh, Bryce, you should have done that.
He's like, Dad, But then you're hanging this and that
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and I'm like, oh damn, I did not see that,
and like that's the thing, like Zach Wilson, you just
can't read zones, you know. It's it's extremely disappointing. The
season hinges on if they get Kirk Cousins and if
it doesn't, like they will spiral. And I know people
are gonna say you can't fire Solo. Really when there
are four or five win team and there's a mutiny
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in the locker room and it's a disaster, and like,
you're not gonna fire the coach. GM is toast Like,
I don't know, guys, it's disappointing.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I'm done talking about these bumps.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
What do we want to wrap up with?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Rob?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Any other games jump out of you. I know you
were hot for the Notre Dame Ohio State game.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well the ones. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna lump that
in with two other things because I think the theme of
the weekend overall, if I could, you know, put a
big picture conversation together, is that there was some absolutely
horrendous coaching going on in the football world over the weekend.
It got started on Saturday night with Marcus Freeman, the
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head coaching Notre dame. Well, okay, he's coaching fine up
until the very last was it fifteen seconds of the game?
Was I think it's first in goal or second in
goal from the one yard line, calls a timeout to
get his guys ready. Ohio State has no timeouts. He
sends his defense back out there with ten players. Ohio
State left the he'll hold on, hold on, right.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay, there's a good point. So they only had ten guys,
But it's not like he tells the guys to go out.
You have your package, you put it out there, right.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's the job of a coach, forgot and then.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
To what count and make sure the defensive life.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I'm glad you said that, because he because here's the
here's the fallo up. Here's the response they asked him
about in the post game. They said, hey, on the
second the last two plays, you only had ten players.
The first time, oh, they lets you off the hook.
They throw a fade ragos incomplete. He says, I know
we had ten players for the last play, but I
didn't want to get a penalty by running a guy
out there late. So he'd rather play the final snap
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with ten defenders against eleven on the decisive step than
risk a penalty and advance the ball ten inches to
the well.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Let me ask, what did they have a timeout or no?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I guess they.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Were so they were dead.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So he knew and then didn't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
So that was one.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So the penalty would have given them more time to think.
But yeah, I'm sure they saw that whole exactly somebody
in the box.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
So that's one. So that's what we started with.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I feel bad. I felt bad they had that game.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
That was a great gay that. It was an awesome game.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
By the way, Ryan Day got lucky. We know this
because if they lose, he's getting destroyed for that end
around on fourth and one in like the ten yard line.
Who on a jet sweep on fourth and one? Like
what on earth is that? But like a slow developing
play even with the fast guy. I don't know. Ohio
State did not totally deserve that game, but anyway, so
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that was play number one.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Was play number two in the aforementioned Chargers Vikings game.
Oh dear Brandon Staley, who should have been fired last
season after that twenty seven point you know, blowing twenty
seven point lead against Jacksonville in the playoffs decides I'm
going to go for it with a four point lead
in the last two minutes of the game from my
own twenty five yard carline. Of course, they get stopped,
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and thankfully for him, Kirk Cousins ends up having a
tip drill interception in the end zone that seals the
win for the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Very lucky.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Do not let the results of the game distract you
from the fact that Brandon Staley should still be fired.
Here coming up Monday at whatever, ten am, whatever time
we listen to this podcast September twenty fifth. All right,
he made what I thought at the time was the
worst coaching decision that I've ever seen in my adult
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years watching NFL football. They cut away after the game
because it was in between the Vikings Chargers and the
Bears Chiefs game. They'd go to the NFL on Fox desk,
and you know, these guys, for the most part, they
don't want to bash other coaches, they don't want to
bash quarterbacks. They try to be very middle of the
road because they're all part of the same fraternity, most
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of these guys. And right off the bat, Jimmy Johnston,
Jimmy Johnsta's an access to him. Michael Strahan takes an
acts to him. I believe Tony Gonzalez. I don't know
if he's No, it wasn't him. It was Howie Long
says something about him. So three guys who don't want
to really say anything that harsh about anyan well else
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in the football community say that was the worst decision
I've ever seen in the history of football.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I think Belichick has done something some coaches have done that.
I know Belichick has a ton of rings.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
He can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So Rob, let me ask you, was it the just
the fact that he went or the play call which
was like a Josh Kelly dive up the middle. Both
I mean justin Herbert was dealing. He was like forty
of forty seven for like four hundred and seventy yards
or something instane like Keenan Allen's just getting open left
and right. Like I think he had eighteen catches on
twenty two.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I faced it with two Fantasy League so I know.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
But like he who was he cooked? I think he
cooked Byron Murphy, the former Cardinals cornerback. And then Murphy
had like, oh I got a ham straight, I got
I gotta go man, and they just like tapped out.
I mean, Allen was unbelievable. I think they lost Derwin
James to injury. They lost Mike Williams to injury, and
it's possible that Staley was like, I don't want to
leave the game in the in the in the hands
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of my defense. I don't trust them to get a
stop Lake, which is weird for a defensive guy. But
then his defense did come up big.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I like the kid Murray.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I don't think their defense is good, but man, he
plays hard. That dude is a heat seeking missile. He's everywhere.
I'm just happy the Chargers got the win. And Rob
I'm telling you, I know this is gonna be popular
to us on top of the world right now. He's
an MVP candidate for sure, his favorite. I think Mahomes
is amazing. I just think when I watch Herbert fling
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the ball around from the mechanics, the arm strength, tight windows,
the guy is a cyborg. He looks like, if you
can dream up, this is what I want my quarterback
to be. This is what I want for the Jets.
I would want justin Herbert, and I know Patrick Mahomes
is a better quarterback. He's also got Eddie Ree and
Mahomes has MVPs. But when you just look at the
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skill set Herbert has rob I mean, he runs like
a gazelle when he wants to. He's just incredible. I
don't know how much of that game you watched, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Just telling you, man, that guy is special.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Like I don't know that he's gonna be like a
Marino who gets to maybe one super Bowl and that's it,
or Peyton Manning where he loses like five playoff games
to start his career or whatever. But I'm just telling
you right now, Herbert Man that that dude he's got everything.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
There is gon a throw he cannot make.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He's unbelievable. I'm sorry, I'm just in awe of him.
And when you say to has McDaniel and Mahomes has Reid.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
He's got Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
You know, I like Kelly Moore. I like him. A
couple couple questionable calls, as there are always, especially when
it's closed. Listen, we did have a good day gambling.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
On the pod.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
We talked about the Browns. That defense is filthy, Brown's.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Who's it? Next week?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Brown's Ravens is good? Next week? Did we talk about
I don't want to talk about the Jags with that's
that's a bad That's probably my worst call of the season.
Colts Ravens. We talked about Colt's getting a lot of points.
I didn't think they'd win outright, Holy cow, that was
crazy and I guess that's pretty much every game. Oh
should we quickly talk about Sam Howell? Rob, One of
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the things I like to do in gambling is remember
nobody's as good as they or as bad as they
were the week prior. So week one, I thought Sam
Howell was gonna be great. I thought Washington was gonna
be great. They were total dog shit and they still win.
Second game, Sam Howell is down twenty one three amazing comeback.
And now Sam Howell, Hey, this guy looks like a player.
And I don't want to bang on cow hurt, but
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he had he had Washington like his top ten teams
last week.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I was like, what are you doing? Stop?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Sam Howell? Come on? Sam Howe had four picks in
this game. He was so bad. I mean, Rob, I
don't know how much you watched like Q in the
first half, pick six, red zone, turnover, on downs. Washington
won for nine on third. By the way, Bills nine sacks.
Everybody wants to write off Buffalo for that Week one
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loss to the Jets, and it was bad, but the
Jets have their number divisional matchup. Buffalo eviscerated your Raiders
and then Buffalo pounded Washington. I mean I was facing
the Bills in fantasy. It's like they got like thirty
seven points. Rob Bill's top five team.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yes, no, uh yeah. The problem is that you know,
when they face another good team, Josh Allen is going
to turn the ball over, you know, at least once,
and that's probably going to be the difference. But yes,
I would say they're a top five team.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Do you want to touch on Steelers Raiders before we
get to Monday night football?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Well that was going to be the trifecta of my
three worst coaching you know, decisions of the week.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
What was the third?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Josh McDaniels down eight, about two fifteen to go fourth
and four, that's right inside the ten, decides to kick
the field goal. I mean, I'm not a math major,
but even if you make the field goal, I believe
you still need a touchdown after that, and and he
was like, well, I'm leaning on my defense that you know,
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we had the two minute warning in the timeouts, I
thought would be able to get the ball back. Yeah.
I don't know how long you've been following the Raiders there, Josh,
I know you're there coach for the last year and
a half. Defense isn't exactly our forte. So to lean
on the defense may have been, you know, a poor decision.
But look, I've been I hated the Josh McDaniels higher
when it was made. We talked about on this pod.
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When he's listening to the pot for that long, I've
hated it. The only success he's ever had in the
NFL is when he's been cheating as a head coach,
So you know, it's all bad. So he was the
third of the trio of really poor coaching decisions.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Would you have respected Medaigiel's more I'm bearing this late
in the podcast if he had said, yeah, I kicked
the field goal, we want to give the ball to
Kenny Pickett. Did you see that guy? You see Kenny
Pickett peeing down his leg there in the huddle. He
doesn't know what he's doing. He's terrified. This place is
juiced up and loud, Picket's gonna make a mistake. I'm
not worried, Like if he had said that, would you ever?
Speaker 4 (44:05):
S Yeah, probably would.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Too, because honestly, Steel has got the ball back and
I'm like, Matt Canada and Pickett, how are they gonna
screw this up? And then they just had the perfect
play called a little rollout to Alan Robinson and Alan
Robinson sighting on the conversion. TJ.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Watt's a bad boy.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
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Speaker 2 (46:02):
All right, let's get the Monday night football real quick,
since we don't know if Burrow's starting, although the line
is now down to one for Bengals, so it sounds
like Burrow's probably not gonna go I'm gonna go ahead
and dick the Bengals anyway. I don't know they're at
home prime time. Jake Browning a full week of work.
By the way, I think Browning's college coach was Chris Peterson,
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and he was at the herd on Thursday or Friday
when you know they're talking to him, and Coward's like,
Jake Browning, what about Apparently like he doesn't have much
of an arm. I'll just say that to be nice,
so I wouldn't expect any deep balls from Jake Browning.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
I think he's gonna keep everything.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Just a little short, tight routes, a lot of yak
yards wide receiver screens. If the Rams defense has a clue,
they'll be hugging up the line of scrimmage right because.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Browning does not the arm. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I'm not betting this game. Oh no, wait, I think
I did bet Oh my gosh, did I yeah, I
think I did.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't remember. I'll have to check the account, but
I did.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I do have the other game Bucks Eagles four and
a half rob in Tampa rematch of the last time
Jalen Hurts really got the crap beat out of him.
Can Tampa hang here or does Baker may feel wilt
in the Monday night spotlight.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I think this game is close into the fourth quarter,
but I think ultimately we all those win and cover
the spread.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I need Tampa Bay in the contest to wrap up
a three and two.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I don't feel great about it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I just.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I bet these dogs with fleas and yes, Tampa is
one you shouldn't get in front of the Eagles train,
but they are kind of beat up. My computer is
slow as hell right now. Rob, Is there anyway you
can tell me who the Eagles play next? Because I
think it's a divisional matchup and that partially played into
my I don't know if it was that.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Or the Eagles injury report, which is pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Well, then they haven't really you know. I know that
they want their first two games, but they haven't looked
super impressive, so maybe that could be another reason. But
I'm pulling up their schedule right now after this game.
It's home against Washington at the Rams, at the Jets
home against Miami.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Why shouldn't beat them last year on that I think
it was Thursday at football, Okay, I did. This's the
problem with wagering I bet the Rams plus three on Friday,
and if you ask me who's gonna win, I think
the Bengals will win. So not fun, but I have
an over forty four and a half on Eagles Bucks.
It's a juiced forty four and a half. And then
I got the bucks in the contest. All right, Week three,
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nearly in the books, Rob, that's a long Monday podcast.
We'll be back tomorrow with a shorter podcast.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Talk to you then,
The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight
Fire for Monday, September twenty fifth. What an incredible weekend
in sports. Saturday College Football Sunday NFL. We got Taylor
Swift references coming up out the wazoo. I actually sat
with my daughter and we went through Taylor Swift songs
(00:37):
that I could work into the podcast and on the
herd later today. Let's see how many you can find.
You got it? Honestly, you gotta be a big Taylor
Swift fan to know. I mean, and there's ancillary stuff
that I don't even know where to start, folks, I
don't you know. So many things happened this weekend. For instance,
my son, you know, he's playing in chess tournaments. He
enters a chess tournament. It's close by here out here
(00:58):
in LA and he wins the thing. Unbelievable. I mean,
I posted it on the Instagram. He won his first
chess tournament. So he's on cloud nine. His ratings are up.
You know, he's got like a national rating and a
rating in California.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
He's all geeked.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay, and your boy played back to back basketball games
pick up Saturday and Sunday morning, first time in I
don't know, over a year, and I held a pretty
damn good you know, I had this surgery last month
and then Sunday hits and not a great Sunday and fantasy.
But I want to remind people, the diehard listener to
this podcast. Every Sunday, we watch the games, we talk
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about him, and I give an early read on the games.
I like, I told you guys on Monday that I
love the Buffalo Bills. I told you guys on Monday
that I love the Miami Dolphins. I added that I
loved the Chargers, Okay, and then what happens during the week,
Jason reading about the games, seeing where the line moves,
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Jason turns into a woos when it comes to the contest,
and I'm like, wow, how can I take the bills?
Look at all this money flowing in on Washington. So
I didn't take the bills in the contest. Look at
all this money coming in on Denver? How could I can't.
I gotta respect the sharp money. These guys are betting
one hundred thousand dollars on games. You know, Wow, I
gotta respect that right, and like a woos, I backed
(02:15):
off those games. So a little frustrating. Two and two
in the contest waiting on Tampa. I mean I could
it could have been a five. And oh, I have
some bad news to report. Okay, the Big Money Survivor Contest.
You guys remember last year. I was in it, like
deep into the season. It was chaos throughout and I
was like a final twenty guy in the contest. I
mean the payout was like eighty one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I was all geeked.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And then I had the Patriots on Minday Night football
against the Bears. Paid usually Belichick owns young quarterbacks and
fields ran wild and I lost.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I was so ticked.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have two entries in this year. This week in
this contest. I picked Jacksonville, big home favorite. I had
them in the contest too, like an ass clown. They
get smoked, okay. And then I had Dallas. They're playing
against Arizona and I know it's a divisional matchup and
it's a week before the Patriots and they just lost
Trayvon Diggs and Jay be careful. I'm like, come on,
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it's Dallas. Their defense is dominant with Josh Dobbs is
gonna do something, and then Dallas lays a massive egg
and folks, in what I think probably is the upset
of the season so far, the Arizona Cardinals as anywhere
twelve thirteen point favorites, sorry, Arizona Cardinals, twelve thirteen point
underdogs shocked the world and beat Dallas by double digits. Okay,
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and folks, if you watch this game like I did,
you had survivor maybe you had some guys in fantasy,
A couple of things jumped out. All the Dallas Cowboy fans'
fears came to reality in this game. First two weeks,
Dallas playing with the lead, DAK riding the defense, a
special teams stake to a lead. They look good, no
pressure on DAK, looked like a super Bowl team. And
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then what happened against Arizona. They fall behind early and
the offense cannot make anything haupt happen early, and all
of a sudden, Arizona's looking kind of sort of frisky,
and then Mike McCarthy strikes in classic Mike McCarthy fashion.
I've got all the numbers here in the second half. Okay,
this is as bad as it gets. The Dallas Cowboys
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drove to the Arizona eight yard line and set off
for a field goal. The next time they got in
Arizona territories, they drove to the four yard line, turnover
on downs. Then they drove to the Arizona eight and
settle for another field goal, then the Arizona six and
dack through an interception. Ballgame, they got inside the Arizona
ten yard line four times and got six points. That's
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how you lose a game. And when Mike McCarthy was
down twelve in the fourth quarter, Rob I've charted this,
he called eight rushes. Down twelve in the fourth quarter.
You need two touchdowns, two touchdowns, and you're running the
ball with Tony Pollard. This is the fear with Dallas.
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Mike McCarthy and Shoddy cannot get the job done. They
are not the man for the job. This is not
how you're beating San Francisco in the playoffs, or the
Eagles or hell, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Maybe like you're not beating them, not with Mike McCarthy
calling this nonsensical nineteen eighties throwback garbage, ultra conservative in
a game they trailed throughout. Dallas never led deck through
forty passes and they rushed the ball I believe thirty
three times. What balance. I mean, you look at the Chargers.
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Justin Herbert throws the ball forty seven times four hundred
yards passing and the Chargers barely survive. Okay, this idea
that McCarthy wants to run the ball constantly to keep
his defense fresh, defense got dump truck by Josh Dobbs.
Like Josh Doobbs was making plays. They were scheming away
from Michael Parson's Like listen, we've been bashing the Arizona Cardinals.
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They're tanking for Caleb Williams. The Arizona Cardinals just took
themselves temporarily out of the Caleb Williams running. I mean,
right now, Chicago is certainly on the track. They are
undeniably the leader in the clubhouse. But this loss for
Dallas is something that you gotta be really concerned about.
You lose Treyvon Diggs for the season, obviously.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
That's big.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I don't want to hear that as an excuse for
this week. They came out flat on both sides of
the football. McCarthy coached an awful game, and Dak is
not that dude. He's not gonna elevate the players around
him when he needs to have a big comeback. That's
just not in his DNA. He was not making the
plays against a guess a bad Arizona team. We saw
last week Rob Daniel Jones in this exact same spot
(06:38):
down twenty Daniel Jones storms back. Brian Gable essentially said, Dan,
we can't run the ball. This is act's gotta be
all throwing. And as Daniel Jones rollouts, Daniel Jones scrambles.
They come back and they win the game. Dak Prescott
could not come back and win the football game. And
lo and behold what's up next? The New England Patriots
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coming to Dallas. Folks, I saw this line. This was
the second game I bet Sunday night, the New England
Patriots getting seven in Dallas and Matthew Judon and that
Patriots defense, which has been very good all season. They
were good against Eagles, they were spirited against the Dolphins.
I know they lost that game, but look what they
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did slowing Miami, given what Miami's done to the Chargers
and the Denver Broncos, like they slowed that too of offense.
I know they got run on, but a Patriots getting
seven on the road from a Dallas offense that does
not scare you. Like Patriots have some injuries in the secondary.
I get that, but that was the second game I
bet New England Patriots in Dallas. But then it gets worse.
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So now Dallas is two and one. They play the Patriots.
Let's just say they blow the game and mac Jones
finally make some plays he's not making place. Then they
play the Niners, and these super Bowl bound Cowboys everybody
loves them, suddenly go from two and zero to two
and three. This could spiral quickly, and this was a
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big concern Rob all summer. We said, is McCarthy the
man for the job? I don't know. Everything I saw
has me terrified. And I'm not just saying this because
I hadn't been survivor, but I would be terrified if
I were a Cowboys fan about McCarthy and the offense.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think part of it has to do with you
having them as survivor. I think, you know, just a
little bit has something to do with that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Look.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
They they played terribly, were it not for some other
coaching blunners. We'll get to here in a minute. You know,
this may have been the All Caps big story of
the day on Sunday, but you know, when you have
a team putting up seventy and you have a couple
of coaches making quite possibly some of the worst decisions
in NFL history, you know, the Cowboys have kind of
been able to slit slide under the radar here early
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on Monday morning. I'm not as concerned because I think
that next Sunday will be a get right game for
them and their Their story says that they, you know,
seem to handle mediocre offenses, and as good as that
New England defense is, their offense is not great. So
I think that they, oh what's Arizona's offense, Josh Dobbs is,
They've been plucky. I know that they're, you know, not
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the most talented bunch out there, but throughout three games
they've been they've been okay. I think Josh Dobbs would
you know, be ten times the quarterback that you have
right now with the New York Jets. Just putting that out.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
There, somebody somebody asked me, Josh Dobbs or Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I did, I don't know, Bro I mean, but look,
my big, my big issue with what happened in Dallas.
I mean, you know, they laid an egg. As disappointing
as it is, that's kind of their mo This is
what the Dallas Cowboys do. On one hand, they can
beat a team forty to nothing. In the other hand,
they'll come out and lose to a team that's supposedly tanking.
My big issue with him is something that Dak Prescott
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said after the game. They asked him about the loss
and his performance and so on, and here's part of
his quote, y'all put us on top of the world.
We knew who we are. In that same sense, I'm
sure the media got what it wanted, Dak. I work
in the media, Jason. With this, this show we're doing
here is part of the media. I can promise you
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that nobody in the media was its rooting for you
to lose to the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, the Dallas Cowboys
are good for business. If the Dallas Cowboys are winning
and they're successful, they are great for business. It's part
of the reason why a lot of these TV shows
on FS one and ESPN NFL Network will give you
(10:18):
a lot of Cowboys coverage throughout the week, even though
they haven't won a Super Bowl. To quote my friend
Rob Parker, since Moby Dick was a guppy, like, we
want them to do well. The ratings are better when
the Cowboys do well. And so when you lay an
egg like that, it's not that anyone's rooting against you.
It's that this is who you are, this is who
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you have been, and it's not that people are taking
and joint out of you losing. It's that we like
to be right and people know what to expect from
the Dallas Cowboys now going back to last thirty years
or so. So that's my big issue with the Dallas Cowboys.
But unlike you, I'm not ready to jump off the
bandwagon just yet.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Do you remember the playoff game two years ago where
they had a billion penalties against San fran Yes, so
against Arizona thirteen penalties one hundred and seven yards Like
that's how is that out on the coach?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Just undisciplined.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh, by the way, the Cowboys defense the mighty defense,
best unit in the league. Josh Dobbs had seven point
five yards per play geez, four hundred yards of offense.
How does that happen Arizona seven point five, seven point
four yards per Carrie seven point four with James Connor
and whoever the hell else. I don't know this Dallas
team listen. NFC is kind of wide open. I think
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the Saints with the car injury, let's see how bad
it is and that loss that's devastating for them. I
think a team to watch could be the Packers.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't know if we'll get to it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, we've led the podcast the last two weeks
because of Miami, and you know, we'd like to be
forward thinking on this podcast. What's next, what's coming? We've
been on Miami. We told you last week did some
machine bad for Denver. What I didn't know was some
of the stuff Mike McDaniel dropped in the post game
that Mike McDaniel grew up in Denver and he was
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once a ball boy for the Broncos. And you know,
McDaniel was a highly thought of coach and the Broncos
had their opening and they didn't reach out to him
at all, and he took that. What do they say
is that the Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Meme where he's and I took that person that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And I saw crazy stat that the Denver Broncos hold up.
The Denver Broncos had on the season sixty nine points.
The Dolphins scored seventy and on in one game. So like,
my family was out somewhere wherever they were on Sunday
and they walk in the door and I have to
tell them the first thing, like you know, they don't really,
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they couldn't tell you five guys on the Dolphins and
they walk in the room like Miami's got seventy points.
I was just like shouting because I'm like and they look.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
At me like is that real?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
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then like you know, it was like the Witching hour
and all this wacky stuff was happening. And then next thing,
I look at my fantasy, you know, I have fantasy
on one screen in the scores, and I see sixty nine.
I was like, no, is that a mistake? And then
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just pouring it on and listen, Sean Payton got a
little snappy. I'm sure you've seen the video where the
reporters like, you know, it's kind of embarrassing to give
up seventy points. How He's like, what's the question next question? Yes,
Peyton's a little salty. Listen, Colin's been all over this.
This could be a Russ Peyton thing. I don't see
how Russ is to blame your defense. Gave up seventy
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points in over seven hundred yards. Nobody in the NFL
scored seventy points in I think sixty something years. I
believe Miami had the best offensive game yardage wise in
the history of the sport. A guy that I gotta
be honest, He's not on my fantasy radar Arcane. What
was his name, Rob?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think it's akin the.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Running back Devin A.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Kane.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So I dropped him before last night? Yes, so you
know I had him on my team. Dropped in and
does this.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're the fantasy savann like, listen, he had He had
some in the preseason. Then he suffered a shoulder injury,
so they really hit him the first two weeks for
making sure he's healthy. Dude came out two hundred yards
rushing and four touchdowns. I was like, is that real?
He had more rushing yards than New York Jets had
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total total against the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It's bad with the Jets. I don't even know if
we're gonna talk about him.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
This Miami teams is filthy. And oh, by the way,
did I mention Jayleen Waddell did not play. They dropped
seventy points without their second best offensive player. And I'm
the genius who benched to for Kirk Cousins in fantasy
because the Vikings and the Chargers were gonna score a
million points.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
By the way, speaking of fantasy and betting.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Last week, one of the early overs was Chargers Vikings
at fifty two. It went up to fifty four, landed
on fifty two. If you didn't get the first number,
you lost. So that's why you got a listen to
the pod on Mondays. Anyways, back to the Miami Dolphins
browbeating Denver. Rob, I don't even think there's like a
takeaway for this For the Broncos. I think you just
got to chalk this up to Okay, we were at
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home against two inferior teams and now we stepped up
in class and holy cow, we are not in that
upper crust. Denver's zero and three, they're not making the playoffs.
It just it's done. I think now you've got to
look forward. How can you salvage this season? Can you?
Is there any takeaways you can have from this blood bath?
Like I don't know, Rob, I don't know where Peyton
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goes from me, Like do you fire vance Joseph Sam
Howell and Washington could not move the football against Buffalo,
and I think they hung thirty eight on Denver last week.
And I mean at some point Vance Joseph like, dude,
this defense was supposed to be ballyhooed with Patrick's certain
they got Randy Gregory. I mean, they can't stop a
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nosebleed right now. It's bad. I don't I don't even
know what the takeaway is from Denver. I guess the
Miami takeaway is that, like they're really, really good. But
the first bet that I made, first bet.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
For what are the week four?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I took the Bills at home minus two and a
half against Miami. I think people are gonna be stunned
that Buffalo's favored. I just want to remind you one thing, Rob,
when Miami played out of division, they moved the ball
at will against the Chargers. And what you just saw
the Denver thing when they played the Patriots, who were familiar,
the Patriots were ready five and six defensive backs. Miami
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still won, but they held him in check.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I think Miami scored what twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think Buffalo is gonna have some stuff cooked up.
My guess would be this is a lower scoring game
than people think, and I think Buffalo wins it, but
we're way early on that Rob seventy to twenty.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Any sweeping takeaways.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Just too well. First off, shout out to the Miami Dolphins.
The only reason I was even competitive, you know, in
my fantasy league because I ran into a couple of
buzz saws named Davonte Adams and the Bills defense on Sunday,
So you know, what are you gonna do? But no,
I mean they they scored more points on Sunday seventy
than twelve teams have combined through the first three weeks
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of the season. They are unreal. And people were saying,
you know, I read the comments ladies and gentlemen. I
read the comments on YouTube when you you had this
take about them playing basketball on grass after week one
and breast you were and I was like, oh, it's
just the Charger, It's just the you know, one game.
You're over here jumping to conclusions and it's like, no,
we you know, contrary to what you might think, Jason
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knows a thing or two about sports, and he knew
after Week one, like, look, this offense is legit to
as a trigger man and this system especially is deadly
because he throws anticipation. He's very accurate, So kudos to them.
I'm looking forward to Sunday. I agree with you. Against Buffalo,
I would lean and under. I don't know what the
total is yet, but I would lean it under. When
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you have that, I.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Think fifty four and it's been down three and a
half here.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, So I would lean under because you know the
familiarity with each other, and usually when you have two
teams that are both upper echelon teams, it's almost like
a feel out process through the first quarter and a half.
So I would lean under on the flip side. In Denver,
who is Sean Payton gonna blame now? Okay, before the season,
Before the season, it was the previous coaching regime. It
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was Nathaniel Hackett. He did the worst job in the
history of sports. That's why this team struggled. That's why
this team sucked. Then after I believe Week two, last
week it was Russell Wilson and he was too slow
getting the calls in, and we got a dumb down
the playbook or a dumb down the relay so we
can get these calls in. He's gonna have to wear
a wristband like he's some kind of rookie quarterback. So
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it's Russell Wilson's fault. Now after week three, you know
defense give it was seventy points, Well, it must be
Advance Joseph's fault because you know he didn't get the
defense ready to play, and everyone knows I wanted Vic
Vangio and it just didn't really work out that way.
At some point, the buck has to stop with the
head coach and Sean Payton, which I've I'm trying to
tell you guys since we started this podcast, is just
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Mike McCarthy with a better pr staff. That one season
hanging out on the lot with you and Colin and
Glad Haatning with all the execs s over there at Fox,
did such a one point eighty on his reputation that
people assumed that he was God's gift to coaching, when
if you just look at the numbers and you look
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at the wins and losses and the postseason, he and
Mike McCarthy are like the exact same guy. The difference
is is that he had a fun offense with Drew
Brees at the Controls, but for some reason, the record
there was the exact same record as the one that
everyone hated when Mike McCarthy wasn't Green Bay with Aaron
Rodgers because it wasn't as pretty to watch. It was
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Aaron Rodgers doing Aaron Rodgers things. Somehow, when you have
all the flash and pizaz of Sean McCarthy and the
whole hum no motion, just beat your man offense to
Mike McCarthy, they met and had the exact same record.
Sean Payton. I believe he's still a good coach. I'm
not gonna say he's not a good coach, but at
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some point you have to accept responsibility yourself for what's
going on. His first words out of his mouth, instead
of arguing with the reporters about how bad they looked
was that loss is on me. I didn't have my
team ready to play. I need to have more of
a hands on approach on the defense, if that's what
it takes. I need to have more of a hands
on approach with the special teams. Pick whatever he's got
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to say. Instead, it's defensive, it's snippy, and that's not
what you would expect from a guy who's been around
the block as long as he has so I'm disappointing
to Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Question is this well? I was thinking there was some
bad blood between these two McDaniel and Denver, Peyton running
his mouth, but Rob is I hate to say this
is Peyton potentially potentially turning into a maybe an Urban
(22:03):
Meyer in Jacksonville situation?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh, I mean that's the extreme version of it. I
don't know. You might say he's on the same path,
but I think Urban Meyer was so far down that
path that they're not quite you know, in the same
area code. They might be on the same.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Denver is in Chicago this week? Do you want to
guess where the number is?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Ew Denver minus.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
One winless teams Denver minus three and wow, which I
think speaks to volumes about Chicago who looked. I mean, Rob,
they I don't know how much you watched in the game.
I know the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey stuff was everywhere,
and Walter Payton's son, weirdly, you know, Bears guy, I
guess was in the building and got a video of
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Taylor Swift leaving the locker room or leaving the facility
with Kelsey, and that's you know, going everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But like It's just.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's strange how the Bears could not.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Move the football, literally moved the football in.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
The first half against the Chiefs started starting defense. They
didn't do anything until it was like benchwarmers in in
the final, I don't know, eight minutes or whatever. They
can't move the football, and like this idea that Remember
there was a video Friday of Justin Fields hugging the
offensive coordinator like, I don't know, guys, it looks bad,
like I don't know if Field's is totally broken and
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it's even repairable. I saw him run a couple times,
which he looked fine, but otherwise like it was really bad.
I don't the Bears are a train wreck. And I
was wait, listen, you own you own it when you're
way wrong. And in the offseason I thought the Bears
had a shot. It's looking like eber Flus ain't the
dude getsy, doesn't look like the guy. I think it's
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a total clean house. Now, remember they have Carolina's pick
and their own. Carolina lost to Seattle. I had Carolina
like a well, I didn't hate the pick in the contest.
Dalton through the most passes of his career. I have
some I don't think anybody cares. But basically, Andy Dalton
played his butt off, and when he's playing like that,
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you're like, why are they even playing Bryce Young? I mean,
Dalton had more passes of ten air yards in one
game than Bryce Young had in the first two games combined. Like,
it's just a bad scene for Bryce Young to not
be able to do anything. And then Andy Dalton comes
in and they're moving the ball up and down the field.
The defense is just too beat up and they got hurt.
But the point is Carolina is oh and three and
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the Bears are oh in three, and those two picks
could both end up being top five next year. I mean,
I think Fields, I don't know Rob. If I say
he's on the clock, that's probably we're probably past.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That, right, Oh yeah, we're way past that at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah. I don't think the new guy, whoever it is,
I don't even think eber Flus is gonna like this
looks like a three wind disaster. I mean, maybe they
turn around, but I think they've lost thirteen games in
a row dating back to last year. And oh, by
the way, I totally forgot this is a good stat
on Russell Wilson and Denver. He is four and fourteen
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straight up as a starter in Denver. That's staggering. I mean,
Russell Wilson was incredible in Seattle. He was amazing, and
I don't want to hear was a legion of Boom
or Pete Carroll. Russell Wilson always made place. He had
Lockett and Metcalf. But rob is just staggering how far
he's fallen. I don't know. Do we need to talk
about the Jets, Robber?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
No, I'll tell you what it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Was, go you know what.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Instead of me sounding off just because I'm probably gonna
get angry and starts dropping f bombs, I'm calling up
the numbers here. Eleven yards in the first quarter. They
had sixty yards of offense heading into the fourth. The
Jets were out gained in the first half two hundred
and sixteen to nine. At one point, Keenan Allen of
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the Charger, who's had more passing yards than Zack Wilson.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And this was deep into the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And still, despite all that ineptitude, rob the Jets and
Zach Wilson had three chances in the final like four
minutes to tie or take the lead, and it didn't happen.
So I'll give it to you first, because uh.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I don't know. I don't want to get egg too aggry.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Look, unfortunately for you and the rest of the Jets,
faithful and folks like me who picked them to make
the playoff because I thought A.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Rodgers is going to be there, well yeah, I don't
give that get.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But they have a Zach Wilson problem. It's nothing new.
It's not earth shattering, and I don't think anyone's going
to be like, oh wow, that's a profound take. No, Like,
it's pretty obvious. And they've had a Zach Wilson problem
now for over a year. They addressed it last season
they benched him for Mike White, was a Chris Streveler,
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and I believe Joe Flacco none of those. Well, I
think Mike White may be a backup, but I think
the other two guys might be out of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
With the dog completely he threw a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
PA shout out to Mike White. Look, the other two
guys I believe are out of the NFL. And they
knew then that they have a better chance to win
with a washed up Flacco. A never has been with
or never will be with Chris Streveler and at best
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a career backup in Mike White. They knew that they
had a better chance to win with those three guys
than Zack Wilson, and they decided, for whatever reason, even
after they got Aaron Rodgers, that rather than cutting ties
with Zach Wilson and just getting a serviceable career backup
or a veteran backup, hell, bringing back Joe Flacco, whatever,
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get Andy Dalton in here, it doesn't matter. They said,
We're going to try to salvage Zach Wilson under the
guys that have a year sitting behind Aaron Rodgers are
two years he's gonna regain his mojo and he's gonna
be the guy we thought he was. That that ship
is sailed, and they sailed last season. They should have
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realized that then and cut their losses. He is not
an NFL quarterback. He's not a starter. He is not
a backup. He should not be in an NFL roster,
point blank period. And the longer that Robert Salah who
said on Sunday after the loss, he's still our guy.
We have faith in Zach Wilson. Jessina Anderson pressured him
about it afterwards and says, why are you so confident
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in him? Like, what is it that makes you think
that he's the guy? And he says, he give us
the best chance to win. The longer you keep the
charade going, the more you're gonna eventually lose that locker
room guys like Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Michael Carter. You
saw them blowing up on the sidelines already in front stration.
(29:00):
Maybe not directed as Zach Wilson in general, but they're frustrated.
The longer this charade continues, the more likely it is
that Robert Salad loses his job at the end of
the season.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, I'm glad you won on the so I
don't have to cover any of the ground.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I agree with everything.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
After Rogers got hurt, I don't know if it was
the next day or two days later, but we did
talk about Kirk Cousins on this podcast and a lot
of so it's weird. Rob Viking fans are saying, why
why are we giving you Cousins? What do you talk about?
We're still in the mix. We got a chance, maybe
they got Carolina this week. I came close to betting
the Vikings, but I'm not ready to. By the way
(29:42):
Vikings last year eleven or zero in close games in
the regular season this year, Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And three funny that works out, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Fire, very funny.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Kirk Cousins to the Jets is not gonna work, Jason,
because he's gonna have to get up to speed with
the offense and it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Take a while.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Okay, maybe sure, kirk Cousins is a pro. He's also
looking for a big payday. Like if the GM has
not called the Vikings about Cousins at this point, they're
just they're not They're not doing their job. That's just
I think that's obvious. I don't want to hear this
nonsense that Hey, Carson Wentz called us and Matt Ryan
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called us.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
F those guys. You don't want that garbage in there.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
What are they gonna do?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Oh, Jason kirk Cousins isn't mobile. I'm fully aware of that.
I know, get a mobile quarterback. Go, We're aware. You
just gonna find a mobile quarterback. They just out there
on the streets. Yeah, let's bring in that guy. He
you know, he ran the Wings. Let's bring it in
like that. That doesn't exist. You can't do that. It's
not a it's not a like viable plan. At one
point in the third quarter, I was ready for the
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Jets to go wildcat, Rob. Just snap it to Breeze Hall,
snap it to Dalvin Cook. That's our best bet. But
they couldn't block bar More. McKay Beckton, of course, got
just steamrolled left on an island one on one. How
are we leaving? See now I'm going to the weeds,
but how are we leaving mackay Beckton one on one
against Judon from our own three yard line. We did
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the same thing with Michael Parsons. And oh, by the way,
Dwayne Brown repeatedly by himself against Parsons ends up getting hurt.
He's questionable. He's questionable.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He's questionable.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh he's going on, IR. It's like, come on, we
know what they're trying to do. They're trying to trade
for a left tackle. Oh, our guy's got that hurt.
We'll just give you peanuts. Oh no, he's really heat
or heard he's on IR?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Were ft, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I guess the more interesting question, Rob, do you think
Rogers could have had success behind what's going on with
the offensive line now or no.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Maybe not to the extent that I thought that they
could have. But even some of the mistakes that they're
making are not just the offensive line, like like that
was a big talking point. I want to get sidetracked.
But like on Saturday with the Colorado Oregon game, the
broadcast kept saying, well, man, that offensive line is really
getting worked. I'm not saying that they were doing a
great job, but the back end is what was really
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slowing it down. Because the book on Shadeur Sanders right
now is that he is a slow going through his progressions.
That he's deadly accurate. He throws a good ball, but
right now, he doesn't get all the way across the
field as quickly as you would like. It's why he
gets sacked so often because he's you know, takes a
beat longer than you would expect of a guy of
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his caliber to get rid of the ball. And Zach
Wilson has that same problem. He doesn't trust what he
sees and then when he does.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
He.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know, reads the question wrong or whatever it is,
Like he throws in the coverage, he makes bad decisions.
There was a play on it and I think it
was fourth and ten late in the game, he throws
a past one yard past the line of scriptae. Yeah,
like that is quarterback one oh one and those mistakes
are not going to get made by Aaron Rodgers, right,
So yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
He's seen every zone. Like you could throw a zone
at Zach Wilson and he needs to study it. In
the offensive line can't hold up Rogers.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
He's seen everything.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
He's seen everything you want throw at him. I think
he could have. He would have obviously done better. I
don't know how much better, but I think they would
be at least more competitive. Even though they had a chance,
they were not competitive. But it's interesting. It's like you say,
you know reading the zones, and like, so, my son,
I told you about the chess tournament. And it's weird
(33:18):
because when he plays, he's able to read the board
and what guys are doing and what's coming next, and
like I'm looking at it. And when I'm on a
basketball court, I can read passes. I know what's happening,
but on the chess board, it's a totally different read.
And I I'm like, oh, Bryce, you should have done that.
He's like, Dad, But then you're hanging this and that
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and I'm like, oh damn, I did not see that,
and like that's the thing, like Zach Wilson, you just
can't read zones, you know. It's it's extremely disappointing. The
season hinges on if they get Kirk Cousins and if
it doesn't, like they will spiral. And I know people
are gonna say you can't fire Solo. Really when there
are four or five win team and there's a mutiny
(34:01):
in the locker room and it's a disaster, and like,
you're not gonna fire the coach. GM is toast Like,
I don't know, guys, it's disappointing.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I'm done talking about these bumps.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
What do we want to wrap up with?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Rob?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Any other games jump out of you. I know you
were hot for the Notre Dame Ohio State game.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well the ones. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna lump that
in with two other things because I think the theme of
the weekend overall, if I could, you know, put a
big picture conversation together, is that there was some absolutely
horrendous coaching going on in the football world over the weekend.
It got started on Saturday night with Marcus Freeman, the
(34:39):
head coaching Notre dame. Well, okay, he's coaching fine up
until the very last was it fifteen seconds of the game?
Was I think it's first in goal or second in
goal from the one yard line, calls a timeout to
get his guys ready. Ohio State has no timeouts. He
sends his defense back out there with ten players. Ohio
State left the he'll hold on, hold on, right.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay, there's a good point. So they only had ten guys,
But it's not like he tells the guys to go out.
You have your package, you put it out there, right.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's the job of a coach, forgot and then.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
To what count and make sure the defensive life.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I'm glad you said that, because he because here's the
here's the fallo up. Here's the response they asked him
about in the post game. They said, hey, on the
second the last two plays, you only had ten players.
The first time, oh, they lets you off the hook.
They throw a fade ragos incomplete. He says, I know
we had ten players for the last play, but I
didn't want to get a penalty by running a guy
out there late. So he'd rather play the final snap
(35:43):
with ten defenders against eleven on the decisive step than
risk a penalty and advance the ball ten inches to
the well.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Let me ask, what did they have a timeout or no?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I guess they.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Were so they were dead.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So he knew and then didn't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
So that was one.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So the penalty would have given them more time to think.
But yeah, I'm sure they saw that whole exactly somebody
in the box.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
So that's one. So that's what we started with.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I feel bad. I felt bad they had that game.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
That was a great gay that. It was an awesome game.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
By the way, Ryan Day got lucky. We know this
because if they lose, he's getting destroyed for that end
around on fourth and one in like the ten yard line.
Who on a jet sweep on fourth and one? Like
what on earth is that? But like a slow developing
play even with the fast guy. I don't know. Ohio
State did not totally deserve that game, but anyway, so
(36:38):
that was play number one.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Was play number two in the aforementioned Chargers Vikings game.
Oh dear Brandon Staley, who should have been fired last
season after that twenty seven point you know, blowing twenty
seven point lead against Jacksonville in the playoffs decides I'm
going to go for it with a four point lead
in the last two minutes of the game from my
own twenty five yard carline. Of course, they get stopped,
(37:02):
and thankfully for him, Kirk Cousins ends up having a
tip drill interception in the end zone that seals the
win for the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Very lucky.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Do not let the results of the game distract you
from the fact that Brandon Staley should still be fired.
Here coming up Monday at whatever, ten am, whatever time
we listen to this podcast September twenty fifth. All right,
he made what I thought at the time was the
worst coaching decision that I've ever seen in my adult
(37:33):
years watching NFL football. They cut away after the game
because it was in between the Vikings Chargers and the
Bears Chiefs game. They'd go to the NFL on Fox desk,
and you know, these guys, for the most part, they
don't want to bash other coaches, they don't want to
bash quarterbacks. They try to be very middle of the
road because they're all part of the same fraternity, most
(37:55):
of these guys. And right off the bat, Jimmy Johnston,
Jimmy Johnsta's an access to him. Michael Strahan takes an
acts to him. I believe Tony Gonzalez. I don't know
if he's No, it wasn't him. It was Howie Long
says something about him. So three guys who don't want
to really say anything that harsh about anyan well else
(38:15):
in the football community say that was the worst decision
I've ever seen in the history of football.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I think Belichick has done something some coaches have done that.
I know Belichick has a ton of rings.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
He can do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So Rob, let me ask you, was it the just
the fact that he went or the play call which
was like a Josh Kelly dive up the middle. Both
I mean justin Herbert was dealing. He was like forty
of forty seven for like four hundred and seventy yards
or something instane like Keenan Allen's just getting open left
and right. Like I think he had eighteen catches on
twenty two.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I faced it with two Fantasy League so I know.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
But like he who was he cooked? I think he
cooked Byron Murphy, the former Cardinals cornerback. And then Murphy
had like, oh I got a ham straight, I got
I gotta go man, and they just like tapped out.
I mean, Allen was unbelievable. I think they lost Derwin
James to injury. They lost Mike Williams to injury, and
it's possible that Staley was like, I don't want to
leave the game in the in the in the hands
(39:13):
of my defense. I don't trust them to get a
stop Lake, which is weird for a defensive guy. But
then his defense did come up big.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I like the kid Murray.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I don't think their defense is good, but man, he
plays hard. That dude is a heat seeking missile. He's everywhere.
I'm just happy the Chargers got the win. And Rob
I'm telling you, I know this is gonna be popular
to us on top of the world right now. He's
an MVP candidate for sure, his favorite. I think Mahomes
is amazing. I just think when I watch Herbert fling
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the ball around from the mechanics, the arm strength, tight windows,
the guy is a cyborg. He looks like, if you
can dream up, this is what I want my quarterback
to be. This is what I want for the Jets.
I would want justin Herbert, and I know Patrick Mahomes
is a better quarterback. He's also got Eddie Ree and
Mahomes has MVPs. But when you just look at the
(40:02):
skill set Herbert has rob I mean, he runs like
a gazelle when he wants to. He's just incredible. I
don't know how much of that game you watched, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Just telling you, man, that guy is special.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Like I don't know that he's gonna be like a
Marino who gets to maybe one super Bowl and that's it,
or Peyton Manning where he loses like five playoff games
to start his career or whatever. But I'm just telling
you right now, Herbert Man that that dude he's got everything.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
There is gon a throw he cannot make.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He's unbelievable. I'm sorry, I'm just in awe of him.
And when you say to has McDaniel and Mahomes has Reid.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
He's got Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
You know, I like Kelly Moore. I like him. A
couple couple questionable calls, as there are always, especially when
it's closed. Listen, we did have a good day gambling.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
On the pod.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
We talked about the Browns. That defense is filthy, Brown's.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Who's it? Next week?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Brown's Ravens is good? Next week? Did we talk about
I don't want to talk about the Jags with that's
that's a bad That's probably my worst call of the season.
Colts Ravens. We talked about Colt's getting a lot of points.
I didn't think they'd win outright, Holy cow, that was
crazy and I guess that's pretty much every game. Oh
should we quickly talk about Sam Howell? Rob, One of
(41:19):
the things I like to do in gambling is remember
nobody's as good as they or as bad as they
were the week prior. So week one, I thought Sam
Howell was gonna be great. I thought Washington was gonna
be great. They were total dog shit and they still win.
Second game, Sam Howell is down twenty one three amazing comeback.
And now Sam Howell, Hey, this guy looks like a player.
And I don't want to bang on cow hurt, but
(41:40):
he had he had Washington like his top ten teams
last week.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I was like, what are you doing? Stop?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Sam Howell? Come on? Sam Howe had four picks in
this game. He was so bad. I mean, Rob, I
don't know how much you watched like Q in the
first half, pick six, red zone, turnover, on downs. Washington
won for nine on third. By the way, Bills nine sacks.
Everybody wants to write off Buffalo for that Week one
(42:07):
loss to the Jets, and it was bad, but the
Jets have their number divisional matchup. Buffalo eviscerated your Raiders
and then Buffalo pounded Washington. I mean I was facing
the Bills in fantasy. It's like they got like thirty
seven points. Rob Bill's top five team.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yes, no, uh yeah. The problem is that you know,
when they face another good team, Josh Allen is going
to turn the ball over, you know, at least once,
and that's probably going to be the difference. But yes,
I would say they're a top five team.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Do you want to touch on Steelers Raiders before we
get to Monday night football?
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Well that was going to be the trifecta of my
three worst coaching you know, decisions of the week.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
What was the third?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Josh McDaniels down eight, about two fifteen to go fourth
and four, that's right inside the ten, decides to kick
the field goal. I mean, I'm not a math major,
but even if you make the field goal, I believe
you still need a touchdown after that, and and he
was like, well, I'm leaning on my defense that you know,
(43:09):
we had the two minute warning in the timeouts, I
thought would be able to get the ball back. Yeah.
I don't know how long you've been following the Raiders there, Josh,
I know you're there coach for the last year and
a half. Defense isn't exactly our forte. So to lean
on the defense may have been, you know, a poor decision.
But look, I've been I hated the Josh McDaniels higher
when it was made. We talked about on this pod.
(43:30):
When he's listening to the pot for that long, I've
hated it. The only success he's ever had in the
NFL is when he's been cheating as a head coach,
So you know, it's all bad. So he was the
third of the trio of really poor coaching decisions.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Would you have respected Medaigiel's more I'm bearing this late
in the podcast if he had said, yeah, I kicked
the field goal, we want to give the ball to
Kenny Pickett. Did you see that guy? You see Kenny
Pickett peeing down his leg there in the huddle. He
doesn't know what he's doing. He's terrified. This place is
juiced up and loud, Picket's gonna make a mistake. I'm
not worried, Like if he had said that, would you ever?
Speaker 4 (44:05):
S Yeah, probably would.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Too, because honestly, Steel has got the ball back and
I'm like, Matt Canada and Pickett, how are they gonna
screw this up? And then they just had the perfect
play called a little rollout to Alan Robinson and Alan
Robinson sighting on the conversion. TJ.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Watt's a bad boy.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
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All right, let's get the Monday night football real quick,
since we don't know if Burrow's starting, although the line
is now down to one for Bengals, so it sounds
like Burrow's probably not gonna go I'm gonna go ahead
and dick the Bengals anyway. I don't know they're at
home prime time. Jake Browning a full week of work.
By the way, I think Browning's college coach was Chris Peterson,
(46:26):
and he was at the herd on Thursday or Friday
when you know they're talking to him, and Coward's like,
Jake Browning, what about Apparently like he doesn't have much
of an arm. I'll just say that to be nice,
so I wouldn't expect any deep balls from Jake Browning.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
I think he's gonna keep everything.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Just a little short, tight routes, a lot of yak
yards wide receiver screens. If the Rams defense has a clue,
they'll be hugging up the line of scrimmage right because.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Browning does not the arm. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I'm not betting this game. Oh no, wait, I think
I did bet Oh my gosh, did I yeah, I
think I did.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I don't remember. I'll have to check the account, but
I did.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I do have the other game Bucks Eagles four and
a half rob in Tampa rematch of the last time
Jalen Hurts really got the crap beat out of him.
Can Tampa hang here or does Baker may feel wilt
in the Monday night spotlight.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I think this game is close into the fourth quarter,
but I think ultimately we all those win and cover
the spread.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I need Tampa Bay in the contest to wrap up
a three and two.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I don't feel great about it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I just.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I bet these dogs with fleas and yes, Tampa is
one you shouldn't get in front of the Eagles train,
but they are kind of beat up. My computer is
slow as hell right now. Rob, Is there anyway you
can tell me who the Eagles play next? Because I
think it's a divisional matchup and that partially played into
my I don't know if it was that.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Or the Eagles injury report, which is pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Well, then they haven't really you know. I know that
they want their first two games, but they haven't looked
super impressive, so maybe that could be another reason. But
I'm pulling up their schedule right now after this game.
It's home against Washington at the Rams, at the Jets
home against Miami.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Why shouldn't beat them last year on that I think
it was Thursday at football, Okay, I did. This's the
problem with wagering I bet the Rams plus three on Friday,
and if you ask me who's gonna win, I think
the Bengals will win. So not fun, but I have
an over forty four and a half on Eagles Bucks.
It's a juiced forty four and a half. And then
I got the bucks in the contest. All right, Week three,
(48:43):
nearly in the books, Rob, that's a long Monday podcast.
We'll be back tomorrow with a shorter podcast.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Talk to you then,
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