On today’s episode, Jason discusses the report that the Sacramento Kings could be looking to trade All-Star point guard De’Aaron Fox ahead of next week’s NBA Trade Deadline, whether or not teams like the Houston Rockets or San Antonio Spurs should make a run at FOX, why he thinks Kellen Moore would be making a huge mistake by taking the New Orleans Saints head coaching job and his issue with the way certain members of the sports media who think they know better than the guys who actually played.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Fire for Wednesday, January twenty ninth. You know, it's weird.
For about the last four months we've been talking NFL, NFL,
NFL and now we're down to one game left and
it's like, oh, we can't do NFL podcasts every day,
(00:31):
just can't. Now we do have some NFL news we'll
talk about here shortly, of course, because well there's some
good stuff. We're going to focus on this big NBA
potential trade that does not involve Jimmy Butler. But I
just want to get something out of the way real
quick first. I think I mentioned to you guys last
sometime last year, was going to start creating and it
was awesome for lifting, and I was feeling jacked, and
(00:52):
it's a great feeling. You definitely loft more. You can
feel it, and you know people would definitely it's noticeable
because you know, you gain weight. Could you drink more water?
But it's muscle and you look cut. But I gotta say, man,
this is the second time I find myself having to
wean off of it simply because you're going too hard
lifting and then the muscle strains and now I got
(01:13):
like this rotator cuff. It just it sucks. Now. Plus
I'm getting old, which stinks, and I want to do everything.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I e.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Played basketball as much as humanly possible, and it's just
it's tough. But uh, that's life. I know you guys
don't really care about that, and you're like, hey, give
me more bets. What do you got on college basketball?
You know, I haven't done much on college basketball this week,
still looking my wounds from the damn Chiefs beating the Bills.
But nevertheless, I want to start with this Darren Fox
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story that's emerging out of Sacramento. Now, the NBA is
has like a political whiff to it, okay, in that
a lot of stuff is planted and you've got to
kind of see through the initial news and wonder, hm,
where did this come from? Why all that stuff? You've
got to think about it. So, according to ESPN, Darn
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Fox and the Kings look to be headed for a breakup.
Now here's the interesting part. In no explicit terms, does
it say Darn Fox is demanding a trade, right, which
sounds logical because hey, they just fired as coach Mike Brown.
I had a great relationship, regardless of what everybody thinks happened.
At the end, Brown and Fox were tight. And I
(02:26):
know this season wasn't going great. But the replacement, Doug Christi,
everybody knows him, Rick Fox's best friend. That's an inside
joke for NBA fans. Doug Christy has taken over. They've
gone what are they eleven and four since? So they're
ahead of the Warriors in the West. So you know,
like it's worked out fine. Here's where it gets interesting.
Fox is a free agent after the twenty twenty sixth season.
(02:50):
According to all this stuff, well not this stuff, the
reports and the timing of this league is interesting, right,
So d'aron Fox is set to hit the trade market.
The Kings are going to be fielding offers. What's the
real story. Why the hell would you trade your best player?
You just fired your coach. You've been in the playoffs,
(03:11):
I'm pretty sure the last two years, right. Yeah, they
lost a tough one to the Warriors in that seven
game series. They probably should have won. And I'm spacing
on who let me quickly look it up who they
lost to last year in the playoff. But trading your
best player, Dearon Fox an all NBA player, Okay, not
just any player. I mean he's third team All NBA.
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He's let's look at his numbers here. He is twenty
five six and five, shoots forty six percent from the field,
only thirty two percent from deep. But he is one
of the best guys at steels. He's not an elite
defensive player, but he's very good with the quickness. And
it doesn't make sense why all of a sudden you
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would try to run off Dearreon Fox. Now the argument,
the counter argument is, oh wait, Jason, you're wrong. The
Kings missed the playoffs last year. They lost to the
Warriors in seven, and the last time they made the
playoffs before that was two thousand and seven. So it's
been a minute, okay, And it's like, okay, Fox is
so great, why is he only gotten into the playoff once? Jay,
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while he's twenty seven years old. We're talking about a
historically inept I'm talking a historically inept franchise in Sacramento.
The ownership is a joke. I know, the guy's made
a lot of money and he's an interesting individual. I
read an article in the New Yorker about him many
many years ago, and you know he's an outside the
box thinker, but as an NBA owner, he stinks. And
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you run off Mike Brown, which I didn't agree with.
They weren't playing great, but whatever, and now you want
to trade Dearon Fox. So something's not adding up here
for me. And this is where it led me to, oh,
is it possible that Dearon Fox is such a nice guy.
He's already telling the Kings, hey, guys, I want out.
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I'm not going to force the hand, because you know
that doesn't always end well for everyone, I e. The franchises.
It's not a great look. Dearon Fox has a good brand,
He's beloved in Sacramento, so maybe this is his way.
My guess is Dearon Fox is saying, guys, I don't
really see a future here. I don't see a path
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to success where I can win a title, and I
would like you to try to trade me before I
come a free agent because I'm probably not going to
resign here. Okay, that's my guess as to what went down.
So the Kings know as soon as somebody demands a trade,
the clock ticks on how much his his value is
going to go down, right, because these aren't the old
(05:46):
days of the NBA where Hey, he wants a trade
and he's going to go somewhere. This is Hey, here's
my list. I want to go one of these places.
I mean, that's how the NBA has been for like
the last ten fifteen years. Paul George calling is sh
everybody says where they want to go? Okay, So instantly
the speculation is, oh, Dearon Fox wants to play in
Sacramento in San Antonio with Wembin Yama. And you're like, oh, okay,
(06:10):
are we supposed to buy that? Are they friends?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Don't?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't know. You see a lot of well, the
Brooklyn Nets are interested guys. Why on earth would Aaron
Fox want to go from the Sacramento Kings to the
Brooklyn Nets. Just think about that. You want to have
success and win. Why the hell would you go to
the Brooklyn Nets? Ah? Why are the Nets being mentioned?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I've got it. So I looked up how many draft
picks the Nets half? So they've got four first rounders
in this draft. Okay, they have their own in twenty
twenty six, and they have the Knicks in twenty seven,
and they have Phillies in twenty seven, and they've got
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multiple plenty of second round picks going forward after in
the next like three years. So why are the Nets
being mentioned? Well, Sacramento knows, Hey, if san Antonio wants
to dearon fix, you guys got to pony up because
guess what, We've got a quote unquote suitor in the
Brooklyn Nets who are interested and the Nets. Fox is
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not gonna want to go to the Nets. He's not
gonna want to sign an extension. There, are you kidding me? Now,
There's no way you would do that. It's suicidal, you know,
going from one losing franchise to another. Give me a break,
no way. So all of this stuff is being is
happening behind the scenes. My read on it is Daron
Fox has told the Kings, I'm not signing back here.
I'm gonna be a good soldier. I'm not gonna be
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Jimmy Butler. You're not gonna have to suspend me multiple times.
But I'm not gonna be signing here long term. So
you know, try to find a suitable trade partner. But
it's not just hey, let's send him somewhere it's I
want to go and play in certain places. And that's
when it gets really interesting because Sham's over at ESPN,
who is, you know, trying to be the new WOJE
(07:51):
and kind of taking his spot as the insider. Schams
has had this. He says that Fox has a target
destination in mind ahead of twenty twenty six. Another one
they know, and that's the Kings and Fox's people. The
second you say Dearon Fox wants to go to the Lakers,
(08:11):
he hasn't said that. I don't think he will. It
instantly becomes okay, he's only going to the Lakers. You know,
everybody else you're screwed, and the Lakers aren't gonna pay
a lot because he wants to go there, and it's
just an ugly scenario all around. I don't know that
there's a solution to this other than keeper superstars happy
and win games and build around them. And frankly, the
(08:32):
Kings have had Dearon Fox. Now, Uh, this is his one, two, three,
four or five, six, seven, eight year in the league,
and folks, they've won zero playoff series with him, So
maybe I'm not correct in the Dearon Fox is a
stud I know he was thirt team All NBA in
twenty twenty three. That was the year he finished eleventh
in MVP voting. And you know Fox, I'm of the
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belief that you can win a lot with dearon Fox.
I do believe he is a very very good player
and elait point god card. I don't know where i'd
rank him among point guards in the league. But think
about this, Chris Paul is having a nice little year
in San Antonio with Wemby. But Chris Paul doesn't have
much left. Is there a world where they vision Chris
(09:17):
Paul as like a placeholder and coming up next? You've
got take a guess, Daron Fox joining forces with Wemby,
That to me makes sense. But who else? Are there
any other sleepers? So I was poking around looking at
the standings, looking at teams. Daron Fox, of course is
from wait for it, Texas, not San Antonio, but Katie Texas,
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which is kind of in the Houston area. So naturally
the Houston Texas, Houston Texas, Houston Rockets are getting mentioned.
But guess what, the Rockets are actually good. The Rockets
are third, I think, yeah, they're still third in the West.
They've got a point guard in Fred van Vliet, but
remember he had signed that I'm sorry, the Rockets are
second in the West. The Van Vliet had signed that
(10:01):
kind of not team friendly deal, but it didn't lock
the Rockets into some long term deal. And I don't know,
is there a world where Dearon Fox ends up in Houston?
But if you're Houston, you know, and they have a
lot of pieces. You know, they got this young kid
I'm and Thompson who's been filling in for uh and
(10:22):
looking amazing. Uh. He has been everywhere. I think they've
got some movable pieces. And Brooks you can easily get
off Dylan Brooks, who got an altercation with Trey Young
last night. Shngoon is very good. Jalen Green has kind
of popped this year. But you know what I mean,
if if they said, hey, we're interested in Jalen Green,
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you know, I think it would it would be in
a heartbeat, right, the Rockets would move off of him.
You got young guys like Cam Whitmore's very good. I
like Tarry Easton, and you put Dearon Fox in that package.
I think they got something. Guys. It just feels to
me like there is a lot of talent on this
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Houston Rockets team that could be shipped Reed Shepherd will see.
I mean, he hasn't done much yet, but the guy's
very talented, and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well,
you know, maybe Houston's a landing spot, and you get
a bidding war started for Dearon Fox. I uh, I'm
a big fan of this guy's work. And I remember
a twenty seventeen draft. I know you guys do too.
(11:28):
That was one of the craziest top of the drafts
you will ever see. Markel Fultz went first to the Sixers. Yes,
that's true, Markel Fulton first. Lonzo Ball ended up going
second to you guessed at the Lakers. Jason Tatum went third,
Josh Jackson went fourth. Josh Jackson's been out of the league.
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He was awesome in Kansas. Dearon Fox went fifth, Jonathan
Isaac sixth. He can't really stay healthy. Lori markn in seventh.
I mean, it was just a bonkers draft. Donovan Mitchell
went thirteenth, Beam Outebayo fourteenth. Like it was one of
those wacky drafts where there's some huge whiffs up top
and Ball got hurt. Yeah, that's that's true. But ultimately,
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like the markl folks pick, I mean, Philly was locked
in on him. Can you imagine Jason Tatum and Philly
and Fox going fifth? Just stunning stuff in that twenty
seventeen draft. My guess is, dearon Fox.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I don't know if you'll be traded by the deadline.
My gut tells me this is more of an off
season situation when teams can see, hey, you know, like
what if OKC falls short of the of the finals,
you know, or the Rockets lose in the first round,
all of a sudden, do these teams that were kind
of super close and thought they were there say, you
(12:48):
know what, maybe we need one more guy now. I
don't know if Fox fits with SGA in the back court.
I don't know if you know, okay, see, like what
do they need? Do they need a point guard? I
don't know. I mean, hell, you could look at teams
like in the Eastern Conference there are some kind of
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underwhelming teams. If you have a seventy six ers, but
who were they're partying? They're not giving up Paul George.
The Knicks don't need him, you know, the Milwaukee Bucks
are mildly intriguing, but they have zero pieces to give
up for him. So the Deer and Fox situation, to
me is more interesting than Jimmy Butler, because Jimmy Butler's
just I don't like how he's handling it. You guys know,
I'm a huge Butler fan. I just don't like the
(13:31):
way this is going down. It's ugly. He's been suspended again.
It's just it seems like there's no end in sight,
and Miami's actually starting to play a little better without him.
They're up to sixth in the East. Yeah, once again
the NBA, So we're looking at who in the offseason
could be moved Butler Fox. I won't add Steph Curry
to that list, but I continue to think that that
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Steph Curry if this putrid play from the Warriors keeps up,
I don't see a world where Steph Curry's on the
Warriors much all. Like, just get him to a good team.
We need to make that happen.
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All right, let me do a couple of minutes here
on the NFL. We'll start with some news and listen,
I'm not going to go after this guy, but I
do need some to just clear up some stuff he
put online. We'll do that at the end. But first
of all, interestingly, Mike McCarthy has decided to focus on
the twenty twenty six hiring cycle and we'll not coach
this season, sources tell the NFL network. And then they
(14:41):
know McCarthy's made the playoffs twelve of eighteen years and
he's expected to be a strong candidate a year from now. Now,
that to me is very telling that you know what
that says is the Saints want Kellen Moore. They don't
want Mike McCarthy, which is fine. I don't know what
they're personally seeing in Kellen Moore. I get that everybody
gets a chance, Hey man, everybody wants a crack at
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being a head coach. And you know, Kellen Moore, I'm
gonna quickly look at his resume because there was a
moment where Kellen Moore was a super hot name as
a coach. First of all, he was an incredible quarterback
at Boise State. I was a huge fan I thought
he could be I thought he could be a decent pro.
And then he was on the Lions and the Cowboys.
So he was the Cowboys offensive coordinator for a couple
(15:23):
of good years, and then it sounds like maybe he
was too much of a threat to McCarthy and he
got run off. So he lands with the Chargers and
everybody was all excited, Oh Kellen Moore and Herbert all
this is great, and Kellen Moore was not very good.
So then he goes to the Eagles. He's been there
one season. He essentially got the keys to a really, really,
(15:48):
really nice sports car. Okay, I have not seen anything
dramatically impressive from Kellen Moore this season. They are a
heavy run team. The second they don't have Aj Brown,
they get destroyed by Tampa. We know pretty much for
sure that Nick Sirianni was on the hot seat for
(16:09):
half the season. Okay, and we're looking at a really
ugly scenario where he's getting credit that he doesn't deserve.
And I say that's ugly because now he's gonna be
a head coach of the Saints. And I don't want
to say it's like fool's gold or anything, but I mean,
if we're being honest, guys, what is Kellen Moore done
(16:29):
special with the Philadelphia Eagles this season? I have not
seen it. I don't see dynamic stuff, and I feel
bad because we all want a shot, right, everybody. This
is the most popular question I get anytime I you know,
I'm talking to friends or whatever. Dude jays, so, what's next?
Do you want your own show? Everybody asked me that, well,
do you want your own show? What do you want? Like?
(16:49):
What's next? After the hurt? And it's funny because obviously
I think about this stuff and I have plenty of times.
I've talked about it with the wife, and you know, like,
what do you want? Could I go to another network
and get a show? Could I convince Fox? Hey, you
guys make a show for me? You know whatever, Like
it's it's the next logical step or question for me
(17:13):
that a lot of people have asked. And part of
me also looks at it as well, you know, you
can't just get a show, right, You got to get
the right show because most sports shows, let's be real,
most of the new ones fail. It's very difficult to
just come out of nowhere. And boom pop is extremely difficult.
The shows that have popped historically have involved guys who
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have been in sports media for a long time and
have like a built in audience because you've been on
radio and TV or whatever for fifteen twenty thirty years. Okay,
So taking all that into account, enter Kellen Moore, who's
been obviously wanting You know, he's still on the young
ish side, thirty six years old, but he wants clearly
(17:57):
to be a head coach, as would anyone. You know,
we all want to be head coach. And I just
I see this Saints job opening up, and I'm like, Okay,
he's going to the Saints. They've gotten Derek Carr, who
said he's not taking any pay cuts. You've got a
offensive machine that includes Olave who's been concussed a bunch,
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Kamara who's got a lot of tread on his tires.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Like, offensive line's not great, defense is fading. Sure, the
division stinks, but can you The real question is can
you win in New Orleans if you're Kellen Moore? And
that's the same question I ask myself about I'm getting
a show. Can it succeed? Obviously I think I can
make it successful, But I'm also like a reasonable human being.
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You have to have the right people around you. You got
to have the right time slot, you have the right network,
the right executives backing you. It's not as easy as like, hey,
your show has a chance. A lot of factors at play,
just like this Helen Moore situation. And I feel pretty
confident right now guy saying Kellen Moore is not gonna
work in New Orleans. And I think McCarthy was actually
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pretty wise to avoid this. I think he kind of
dodged a bullet. Now this is where it gets interesting.
I just did a list of where could McCarthy go
next year for this robust market. So I have long
shot jobs that could be open, and don't get mad,
but number one is Buffalo. If McDermott somehow flops, they
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lose in the first round, whatever, maybe there's a scenario
where Buffalo becomes open. Unlikely, but maybe. And the other
one is Detroit. We have seen and I know everybody
loves Dame Campbell, but he loses both coordinators, and we
have seen plenty, trust me, plenty of coaches lose both
coordinators and instantly there is a massive drop off. And
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I look at this situation in uh Detroit, and I say,
oh boy, well they lost a brutal one to the
forty nine ers, and I mean brutal two years ago,
and then they lose to Washington. You know there's gonna
be pullback. They they're not winning. You know, they're not
going fourteen and three or whatever. That's just not happening. Guys,
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what if they win ten games and they'll lose in
the first round, like I doubt Campbell would get run off.
But there's a world where it's like, maybe we move
on because there's a great candidate out there. I don't
know if McCarthy's that great of a candidate. And then
the more likely jobs that I think could be open
are Miami, which you know McDaniel. I like McDaniel, but
I don't know what the future holds in Miami. Things
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do not look great for McDaniel in Miami. They just
don't have a lot of guys healthy. Tyreek Hill wants out.
We'll see. I have the Cincinnati Bengals. If Zach Taylor
somehow screws up again, you got to figure he's toast.
Keeps losing coordinators or getting them fired. Cleveland Brown's job
could be open. We'll see what happens with Stefanski and
Shadoor Cam or whoever their quarterback is. New York Giants
(21:03):
don't know if they'll get a quarterback that one will
be fascinating. But Day bolls on his last legs there
for sure. They've got to win this season. You've got
Tampa Bay with Bulls. There was some scuttle but about
Bulls this offseason, it didn't happen. And then Arizona. But
I don't know how good of a job that is,
so like, is McCarthy clamoring for any of those jobs? Like,
(21:24):
I don't see it. Like now, the quarterbacks there are decent, obviously,
Joe Burrow's phenomenal, but you know, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray
to a tongue by Loa. I don't know, guys, it
just doesn't seem like there's anything out there that's just like,
oh my gosh, gotta have it, got to have it.
And so I guess in closing, my thoughts would be
(21:45):
I think McCarthy dodged a bullet here, and I think
Kellen Moore is gonna end up diving on the grenade
because he's so excited to be a head coach and
it's not going to go well.
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I will close with something I saw had ten million
views online and I'm stunned by it. So, you guys
know next gen stats. We talk about it all the time.
And of course the final play the Buffalo Bills had
where Allen missed k Kincaid missed the Josh Allen pass
over the middle and dropped it. One of these writers was,
(22:27):
I followed this guy, but I didn't. I don't know
his history or anything. He just occasionally has decent content.
So this gentleman named Benjamin Solac apparently was at the
Ringer and now he's at ESPN, and he at the
end of the game pulled up the next gen stats,
you know those dots where they show like where players
are going, and he wrote, no idea why Josh did
not throw the orbit to Shakir. That was the play
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where the similar Ohio State play where Jeremiah Smith came
into the backfield and then it was a fake. And
then he went straight out and easy touchdown in the
National Championship against utter Day bit play, he wrote, They've
called that exact route against the Chiefs on fourth down
before got to go to ten here and everybody on
planet Earth jumped down this guy's throat, like you clearly
(23:12):
have never played sports to watch dots and say, oh
my gosh, how did you not make this? First of all,
it was an amazing blitz by Spagnolo coming off the
edge was the all pro McDuffie, and they did not
block it well the bills, and yes, Shakir was opened.
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But and again this is coming from somebody who plays
a lot of sports, Like it's super bang bang, it's
incredibly put boom boom, Like this stuff happens so quick.
And when you see those two free runners basically come
in untouched, Alan was not thinking, let me throw across
my body when I can't really see the other half
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of the field to Shakir. Now he was open. But
the idea that you no idea why you didn't throw
it to him, It just it came off a little clunky.
I saw tons of players piling on this guy, and
this is one of the problems, Like I don't know
Ben Solack. Maybe he was a quarterback or cornerback somewhere.
I have no idea, but it does strike me as
odd that you've got all these young guys in the
media who are just looking at the numbers, which is fine.
(24:15):
Numbers for gambling is huge. But what I it's the
criticism of the guys who are actually playing sports in
the arena when you're looking at dots on a screen
and like, that's just that's really not how sports are done. Guys. Again,
I've never played it down a football in my life
outside of backyard football, but this idea that it like
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Josh Allen could have made that play. Yes, I understand
he's paid forty five million dollars now, Dalton Kincaid's also
paid handsomely. He's got to catch that. Mark Andrews is
paid handsomely. He's got to catch that. Like the It
just it struck me as a little tone deaf that
he would put that out there, and players all around
the league replied, like, bro that you just have no clue,
And I felt a little bad for the guy. I
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don't know if he's been on social media since he
was besieged, understandably, so like that play was not on
Josh Allen under any circumstances. It just wasn't. And the
idea that we're looking at dots and being like, how
did you miss that open? Guy? Go play pick up
basketball and tell me how easy it is to hit
a wide open mid ring shot. Go play soccer and
(25:22):
tell me how easy it is. Oh, he meant that
was a perfect cross. How do you not finish that?
Sports are tough, guys, And I'm not making excuses for
Alan or Shakir or anybody, but it is very, very
difficult to play sports, and at the high level these
guys are at man and I've watched that play probably
two dozen times, and it's a killer. The kinkid drop
(25:44):
part of it is to me, way, way way bigger
of a story than Shakir being opened and not getting
the pass. So I don't know, I just wanted to
put that out there. I'm sure you guys will hate
that breakdown, and I'm like flexing because what I do
play sports and this guy clearly hasn't. Whatever. I just
I found it interesting and I thought i'd wrap with that.
All right, have a good one back tomorrow. See you then,
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Fire for Wednesday, January twenty ninth. You know, it's weird.
For about the last four months we've been talking NFL, NFL,
NFL and now we're down to one game left and
it's like, oh, we can't do NFL podcasts every day,
(00:31):
just can't. Now we do have some NFL news we'll
talk about here shortly, of course, because well there's some
good stuff. We're going to focus on this big NBA
potential trade that does not involve Jimmy Butler. But I
just want to get something out of the way real
quick first. I think I mentioned to you guys last
sometime last year, was going to start creating and it
was awesome for lifting, and I was feeling jacked, and
(00:52):
it's a great feeling. You definitely loft more. You can
feel it, and you know people would definitely it's noticeable
because you know, you gain weight. Could you drink more water?
But it's muscle and you look cut. But I gotta say, man,
this is the second time I find myself having to
wean off of it simply because you're going too hard
lifting and then the muscle strains and now I got
(01:13):
like this rotator cuff. It just it sucks. Now. Plus
I'm getting old, which stinks, and I want to do everything.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I e.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Played basketball as much as humanly possible, and it's just
it's tough. But uh, that's life. I know you guys
don't really care about that, and you're like, hey, give
me more bets. What do you got on college basketball?
You know, I haven't done much on college basketball this week,
still looking my wounds from the damn Chiefs beating the Bills.
But nevertheless, I want to start with this Darren Fox
(01:39):
story that's emerging out of Sacramento. Now, the NBA is
has like a political whiff to it, okay, in that
a lot of stuff is planted and you've got to
kind of see through the initial news and wonder, hm,
where did this come from? Why all that stuff? You've
got to think about it. So, according to ESPN, Darn
(02:04):
Fox and the Kings look to be headed for a breakup.
Now here's the interesting part. In no explicit terms, does
it say Darn Fox is demanding a trade, right, which
sounds logical because hey, they just fired as coach Mike Brown.
I had a great relationship, regardless of what everybody thinks happened.
At the end, Brown and Fox were tight. And I
(02:26):
know this season wasn't going great. But the replacement, Doug Christi,
everybody knows him, Rick Fox's best friend. That's an inside
joke for NBA fans. Doug Christy has taken over. They've
gone what are they eleven and four since? So they're
ahead of the Warriors in the West. So you know,
like it's worked out fine. Here's where it gets interesting.
Fox is a free agent after the twenty twenty sixth season.
(02:50):
According to all this stuff, well not this stuff, the
reports and the timing of this league is interesting, right,
So d'aron Fox is set to hit the trade market.
The Kings are going to be fielding offers. What's the
real story. Why the hell would you trade your best player?
You just fired your coach. You've been in the playoffs,
(03:11):
I'm pretty sure the last two years, right. Yeah, they
lost a tough one to the Warriors in that seven
game series. They probably should have won. And I'm spacing
on who let me quickly look it up who they
lost to last year in the playoff. But trading your
best player, Dearon Fox an all NBA player, Okay, not
just any player. I mean he's third team All NBA.
(03:32):
He's let's look at his numbers here. He is twenty
five six and five, shoots forty six percent from the field,
only thirty two percent from deep. But he is one
of the best guys at steels. He's not an elite
defensive player, but he's very good with the quickness. And
it doesn't make sense why all of a sudden you
(03:54):
would try to run off Dearreon Fox. Now the argument,
the counter argument is, oh wait, Jason, you're wrong. The
Kings missed the playoffs last year. They lost to the
Warriors in seven, and the last time they made the
playoffs before that was two thousand and seven. So it's
been a minute, okay, And it's like, okay, Fox is
so great, why is he only gotten into the playoff once? Jay,
(04:17):
while he's twenty seven years old. We're talking about a
historically inept I'm talking a historically inept franchise in Sacramento.
The ownership is a joke. I know, the guy's made
a lot of money and he's an interesting individual. I
read an article in the New Yorker about him many
many years ago, and you know he's an outside the
box thinker, but as an NBA owner, he stinks. And
(04:40):
you run off Mike Brown, which I didn't agree with.
They weren't playing great, but whatever, and now you want
to trade Dearon Fox. So something's not adding up here
for me. And this is where it led me to, oh,
is it possible that Dearon Fox is such a nice guy.
He's already telling the Kings, hey, guys, I want out.
(05:01):
I'm not going to force the hand, because you know
that doesn't always end well for everyone, I e. The franchises.
It's not a great look. Dearon Fox has a good brand,
He's beloved in Sacramento, so maybe this is his way.
My guess is Dearon Fox is saying, guys, I don't
really see a future here. I don't see a path
(05:22):
to success where I can win a title, and I
would like you to try to trade me before I
come a free agent because I'm probably not going to
resign here. Okay, that's my guess as to what went down.
So the Kings know as soon as somebody demands a trade,
the clock ticks on how much his his value is
going to go down, right, because these aren't the old
(05:46):
days of the NBA where Hey, he wants a trade
and he's going to go somewhere. This is Hey, here's
my list. I want to go one of these places.
I mean, that's how the NBA has been for like
the last ten fifteen years. Paul George calling is sh
everybody says where they want to go? Okay, So instantly
the speculation is, oh, Dearon Fox wants to play in
Sacramento in San Antonio with Wembin Yama. And you're like, oh, okay,
(06:10):
are we supposed to buy that? Are they friends?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Don't?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't know. You see a lot of well, the
Brooklyn Nets are interested guys. Why on earth would Aaron
Fox want to go from the Sacramento Kings to the
Brooklyn Nets. Just think about that. You want to have
success and win. Why the hell would you go to
the Brooklyn Nets? Ah? Why are the Nets being mentioned?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I've got it. So I looked up how many draft
picks the Nets half? So they've got four first rounders
in this draft. Okay, they have their own in twenty
twenty six, and they have the Knicks in twenty seven,
and they have Phillies in twenty seven, and they've got
(06:49):
multiple plenty of second round picks going forward after in
the next like three years. So why are the Nets
being mentioned? Well, Sacramento knows, Hey, if san Antonio wants
to dearon fix, you guys got to pony up because
guess what, We've got a quote unquote suitor in the
Brooklyn Nets who are interested and the Nets. Fox is
(07:09):
not gonna want to go to the Nets. He's not
gonna want to sign an extension. There, are you kidding me? Now,
There's no way you would do that. It's suicidal, you know,
going from one losing franchise to another. Give me a break,
no way. So all of this stuff is being is
happening behind the scenes. My read on it is Daron
Fox has told the Kings, I'm not signing back here.
I'm gonna be a good soldier. I'm not gonna be
(07:30):
Jimmy Butler. You're not gonna have to suspend me multiple times.
But I'm not gonna be signing here long term. So
you know, try to find a suitable trade partner. But
it's not just hey, let's send him somewhere it's I
want to go and play in certain places. And that's
when it gets really interesting because Sham's over at ESPN,
who is, you know, trying to be the new WOJE
(07:51):
and kind of taking his spot as the insider. Schams
has had this. He says that Fox has a target
destination in mind ahead of twenty twenty six. Another one
they know, and that's the Kings and Fox's people. The
second you say Dearon Fox wants to go to the Lakers,
(08:11):
he hasn't said that. I don't think he will. It
instantly becomes okay, he's only going to the Lakers. You know,
everybody else you're screwed, and the Lakers aren't gonna pay
a lot because he wants to go there, and it's
just an ugly scenario all around. I don't know that
there's a solution to this other than keeper superstars happy
and win games and build around them. And frankly, the
(08:32):
Kings have had Dearon Fox. Now, Uh, this is his one, two, three,
four or five, six, seven, eight year in the league,
and folks, they've won zero playoff series with him, So
maybe I'm not correct in the Dearon Fox is a
stud I know he was thirt team All NBA in
twenty twenty three. That was the year he finished eleventh
in MVP voting. And you know Fox, I'm of the
(08:54):
belief that you can win a lot with dearon Fox.
I do believe he is a very very good player
and elait point god card. I don't know where i'd
rank him among point guards in the league. But think
about this, Chris Paul is having a nice little year
in San Antonio with Wemby. But Chris Paul doesn't have
much left. Is there a world where they vision Chris
(09:17):
Paul as like a placeholder and coming up next? You've
got take a guess, Daron Fox joining forces with Wemby,
That to me makes sense. But who else? Are there
any other sleepers? So I was poking around looking at
the standings, looking at teams. Daron Fox, of course is
from wait for it, Texas, not San Antonio, but Katie Texas,
(09:40):
which is kind of in the Houston area. So naturally
the Houston Texas, Houston Texas, Houston Rockets are getting mentioned.
But guess what, the Rockets are actually good. The Rockets
are third, I think, yeah, they're still third in the West.
They've got a point guard in Fred van Vliet, but
remember he had signed that I'm sorry, the Rockets are
second in the West. The Van Vliet had signed that
(10:01):
kind of not team friendly deal, but it didn't lock
the Rockets into some long term deal. And I don't know,
is there a world where Dearon Fox ends up in Houston?
But if you're Houston, you know, and they have a
lot of pieces. You know, they got this young kid
I'm and Thompson who's been filling in for uh and
(10:22):
looking amazing. Uh. He has been everywhere. I think they've
got some movable pieces. And Brooks you can easily get
off Dylan Brooks, who got an altercation with Trey Young
last night. Shngoon is very good. Jalen Green has kind
of popped this year. But you know what I mean,
if if they said, hey, we're interested in Jalen Green,
(10:45):
you know, I think it would it would be in
a heartbeat, right, the Rockets would move off of him.
You got young guys like Cam Whitmore's very good. I
like Tarry Easton, and you put Dearon Fox in that package.
I think they got something. Guys. It just feels to
me like there is a lot of talent on this
(11:05):
Houston Rockets team that could be shipped Reed Shepherd will see.
I mean, he hasn't done much yet, but the guy's
very talented, and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well,
you know, maybe Houston's a landing spot, and you get
a bidding war started for Dearon Fox. I uh, I'm
a big fan of this guy's work. And I remember
a twenty seventeen draft. I know you guys do too.
(11:28):
That was one of the craziest top of the drafts
you will ever see. Markel Fultz went first to the Sixers. Yes,
that's true, Markel Fulton first. Lonzo Ball ended up going
second to you guessed at the Lakers. Jason Tatum went third,
Josh Jackson went fourth. Josh Jackson's been out of the league.
(11:48):
He was awesome in Kansas. Dearon Fox went fifth, Jonathan
Isaac sixth. He can't really stay healthy. Lori markn in seventh.
I mean, it was just a bonkers draft. Donovan Mitchell
went thirteenth, Beam Outebayo fourteenth. Like it was one of
those wacky drafts where there's some huge whiffs up top
and Ball got hurt. Yeah, that's that's true. But ultimately,
(12:09):
like the markl folks pick, I mean, Philly was locked
in on him. Can you imagine Jason Tatum and Philly
and Fox going fifth? Just stunning stuff in that twenty
seventeen draft. My guess is, dearon Fox.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I don't know if you'll be traded by the deadline.
My gut tells me this is more of an off
season situation when teams can see, hey, you know, like
what if OKC falls short of the of the finals,
you know, or the Rockets lose in the first round,
all of a sudden, do these teams that were kind
of super close and thought they were there say, you
(12:48):
know what, maybe we need one more guy now. I
don't know if Fox fits with SGA in the back court.
I don't know if you know, okay, see, like what
do they need? Do they need a point guard? I
don't know. I mean, hell, you could look at teams
like in the Eastern Conference there are some kind of
(13:09):
underwhelming teams. If you have a seventy six ers, but
who were they're partying? They're not giving up Paul George.
The Knicks don't need him, you know, the Milwaukee Bucks
are mildly intriguing, but they have zero pieces to give
up for him. So the Deer and Fox situation, to
me is more interesting than Jimmy Butler, because Jimmy Butler's
just I don't like how he's handling it. You guys know,
I'm a huge Butler fan. I just don't like the
(13:31):
way this is going down. It's ugly. He's been suspended again.
It's just it seems like there's no end in sight,
and Miami's actually starting to play a little better without him.
They're up to sixth in the East. Yeah, once again
the NBA, So we're looking at who in the offseason
could be moved Butler Fox. I won't add Steph Curry
to that list, but I continue to think that that
(13:54):
Steph Curry if this putrid play from the Warriors keeps up,
I don't see a world where Steph Curry's on the
Warriors much all. Like, just get him to a good team.
We need to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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All right, let me do a couple of minutes here
on the NFL. We'll start with some news and listen,
I'm not going to go after this guy, but I
do need some to just clear up some stuff he
put online. We'll do that at the end. But first
of all, interestingly, Mike McCarthy has decided to focus on
the twenty twenty six hiring cycle and we'll not coach
this season, sources tell the NFL network. And then they
(14:41):
know McCarthy's made the playoffs twelve of eighteen years and
he's expected to be a strong candidate a year from now. Now,
that to me is very telling that you know what
that says is the Saints want Kellen Moore. They don't
want Mike McCarthy, which is fine. I don't know what
they're personally seeing in Kellen Moore. I get that everybody
gets a chance, Hey man, everybody wants a crack at
(15:02):
being a head coach. And you know, Kellen Moore, I'm
gonna quickly look at his resume because there was a
moment where Kellen Moore was a super hot name as
a coach. First of all, he was an incredible quarterback
at Boise State. I was a huge fan I thought
he could be I thought he could be a decent pro.
And then he was on the Lions and the Cowboys.
So he was the Cowboys offensive coordinator for a couple
(15:23):
of good years, and then it sounds like maybe he
was too much of a threat to McCarthy and he
got run off. So he lands with the Chargers and
everybody was all excited, Oh Kellen Moore and Herbert all
this is great, and Kellen Moore was not very good.
So then he goes to the Eagles. He's been there
one season. He essentially got the keys to a really, really,
(15:48):
really nice sports car. Okay, I have not seen anything
dramatically impressive from Kellen Moore this season. They are a
heavy run team. The second they don't have Aj Brown,
they get destroyed by Tampa. We know pretty much for
sure that Nick Sirianni was on the hot seat for
(16:09):
half the season. Okay, and we're looking at a really
ugly scenario where he's getting credit that he doesn't deserve.
And I say that's ugly because now he's gonna be
a head coach of the Saints. And I don't want
to say it's like fool's gold or anything, but I mean,
if we're being honest, guys, what is Kellen Moore done
(16:29):
special with the Philadelphia Eagles this season? I have not
seen it. I don't see dynamic stuff, and I feel
bad because we all want a shot, right, everybody. This
is the most popular question I get anytime I you know,
I'm talking to friends or whatever. Dude jays, so, what's next?
Do you want your own show? Everybody asked me that, well,
do you want your own show? What do you want? Like?
(16:49):
What's next? After the hurt? And it's funny because obviously
I think about this stuff and I have plenty of times.
I've talked about it with the wife, and you know, like,
what do you want? Could I go to another network
and get a show? Could I convince Fox? Hey, you
guys make a show for me? You know whatever, Like
it's it's the next logical step or question for me
(17:13):
that a lot of people have asked. And part of
me also looks at it as well, you know, you
can't just get a show, right, You got to get
the right show because most sports shows, let's be real,
most of the new ones fail. It's very difficult to
just come out of nowhere. And boom pop is extremely difficult.
The shows that have popped historically have involved guys who
(17:35):
have been in sports media for a long time and
have like a built in audience because you've been on
radio and TV or whatever for fifteen twenty thirty years. Okay,
So taking all that into account, enter Kellen Moore, who's
been obviously wanting You know, he's still on the young
ish side, thirty six years old, but he wants clearly
(17:57):
to be a head coach, as would anyone. You know,
we all want to be head coach. And I just
I see this Saints job opening up, and I'm like, Okay,
he's going to the Saints. They've gotten Derek Carr, who
said he's not taking any pay cuts. You've got a
offensive machine that includes Olave who's been concussed a bunch,
(18:21):
Kamara who's got a lot of tread on his tires.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Like, offensive line's not great, defense is fading. Sure, the
division stinks, but can you The real question is can
you win in New Orleans if you're Kellen Moore? And
that's the same question I ask myself about I'm getting
a show. Can it succeed? Obviously I think I can
make it successful, But I'm also like a reasonable human being.
(18:46):
You have to have the right people around you. You got
to have the right time slot, you have the right network,
the right executives backing you. It's not as easy as like, hey,
your show has a chance. A lot of factors at play,
just like this Helen Moore situation. And I feel pretty
confident right now guy saying Kellen Moore is not gonna
work in New Orleans. And I think McCarthy was actually
(19:09):
pretty wise to avoid this. I think he kind of
dodged a bullet. Now this is where it gets interesting.
I just did a list of where could McCarthy go
next year for this robust market. So I have long
shot jobs that could be open, and don't get mad,
but number one is Buffalo. If McDermott somehow flops, they
(19:31):
lose in the first round, whatever, maybe there's a scenario
where Buffalo becomes open. Unlikely, but maybe. And the other
one is Detroit. We have seen and I know everybody
loves Dame Campbell, but he loses both coordinators, and we
have seen plenty, trust me, plenty of coaches lose both
coordinators and instantly there is a massive drop off. And
(19:54):
I look at this situation in uh Detroit, and I say,
oh boy, well they lost a brutal one to the
forty nine ers, and I mean brutal two years ago,
and then they lose to Washington. You know there's gonna
be pullback. They they're not winning. You know, they're not
going fourteen and three or whatever. That's just not happening. Guys,
(20:17):
what if they win ten games and they'll lose in
the first round, like I doubt Campbell would get run off.
But there's a world where it's like, maybe we move
on because there's a great candidate out there. I don't
know if McCarthy's that great of a candidate. And then
the more likely jobs that I think could be open
are Miami, which you know McDaniel. I like McDaniel, but
I don't know what the future holds in Miami. Things
(20:41):
do not look great for McDaniel in Miami. They just
don't have a lot of guys healthy. Tyreek Hill wants out.
We'll see. I have the Cincinnati Bengals. If Zach Taylor
somehow screws up again, you got to figure he's toast.
Keeps losing coordinators or getting them fired. Cleveland Brown's job
could be open. We'll see what happens with Stefanski and
Shadoor Cam or whoever their quarterback is. New York Giants
(21:03):
don't know if they'll get a quarterback that one will
be fascinating. But Day bolls on his last legs there
for sure. They've got to win this season. You've got
Tampa Bay with Bulls. There was some scuttle but about
Bulls this offseason, it didn't happen. And then Arizona. But
I don't know how good of a job that is,
so like, is McCarthy clamoring for any of those jobs? Like,
(21:24):
I don't see it. Like now, the quarterbacks there are decent, obviously,
Joe Burrow's phenomenal, but you know, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray
to a tongue by Loa. I don't know, guys, it
just doesn't seem like there's anything out there that's just like,
oh my gosh, gotta have it, got to have it.
And so I guess in closing, my thoughts would be
(21:45):
I think McCarthy dodged a bullet here, and I think
Kellen Moore is gonna end up diving on the grenade
because he's so excited to be a head coach and
it's not going to go well.
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Speaker 2 (22:06):
I will close with something I saw had ten million
views online and I'm stunned by it. So, you guys
know next gen stats. We talk about it all the time.
And of course the final play the Buffalo Bills had
where Allen missed k Kincaid missed the Josh Allen pass
over the middle and dropped it. One of these writers was,
(22:27):
I followed this guy, but I didn't. I don't know
his history or anything. He just occasionally has decent content.
So this gentleman named Benjamin Solac apparently was at the
Ringer and now he's at ESPN, and he at the
end of the game pulled up the next gen stats,
you know those dots where they show like where players
are going, and he wrote, no idea why Josh did
not throw the orbit to Shakir. That was the play
(22:49):
where the similar Ohio State play where Jeremiah Smith came
into the backfield and then it was a fake. And
then he went straight out and easy touchdown in the
National Championship against utter Day bit play, he wrote, They've
called that exact route against the Chiefs on fourth down
before got to go to ten here and everybody on
planet Earth jumped down this guy's throat, like you clearly
(23:12):
have never played sports to watch dots and say, oh
my gosh, how did you not make this? First of all,
it was an amazing blitz by Spagnolo coming off the
edge was the all pro McDuffie, and they did not
block it well the bills, and yes, Shakir was opened.
(23:32):
But and again this is coming from somebody who plays
a lot of sports, Like it's super bang bang, it's
incredibly put boom boom, Like this stuff happens so quick.
And when you see those two free runners basically come
in untouched, Alan was not thinking, let me throw across
my body when I can't really see the other half
(23:52):
of the field to Shakir. Now he was open. But
the idea that you no idea why you didn't throw
it to him, It just it came off a little clunky.
I saw tons of players piling on this guy, and
this is one of the problems, Like I don't know
Ben Solack. Maybe he was a quarterback or cornerback somewhere.
I have no idea, but it does strike me as
odd that you've got all these young guys in the
media who are just looking at the numbers, which is fine.
(24:15):
Numbers for gambling is huge. But what I it's the
criticism of the guys who are actually playing sports in
the arena when you're looking at dots on a screen
and like, that's just that's really not how sports are done. Guys. Again,
I've never played it down a football in my life
outside of backyard football, but this idea that it like
(24:37):
Josh Allen could have made that play. Yes, I understand
he's paid forty five million dollars now, Dalton Kincaid's also
paid handsomely. He's got to catch that. Mark Andrews is
paid handsomely. He's got to catch that. Like the It
just it struck me as a little tone deaf that
he would put that out there, and players all around
the league replied, like, bro that you just have no clue,
And I felt a little bad for the guy. I
(24:58):
don't know if he's been on social media since he
was besieged, understandably, so like that play was not on
Josh Allen under any circumstances. It just wasn't. And the
idea that we're looking at dots and being like, how
did you miss that open? Guy? Go play pick up
basketball and tell me how easy it is to hit
a wide open mid ring shot. Go play soccer and
(25:22):
tell me how easy it is. Oh, he meant that
was a perfect cross. How do you not finish that?
Sports are tough, guys, And I'm not making excuses for
Alan or Shakir or anybody, but it is very, very
difficult to play sports, and at the high level these
guys are at man and I've watched that play probably
two dozen times, and it's a killer. The kinkid drop
(25:44):
part of it is to me, way, way way bigger
of a story than Shakir being opened and not getting
the pass. So I don't know, I just wanted to
put that out there. I'm sure you guys will hate
that breakdown, and I'm like flexing because what I do
play sports and this guy clearly hasn't. Whatever. I just
I found it interesting and I thought i'd wrap with that.
All right, have a good one back tomorrow. See you then,
Host
Jason McIntyre
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