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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason MacIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up the street? Fire? Bam, it's me Jason MacIntyre.
Straight Fayre for Thursday, October sixteenth. Got to give a
shout out to my brother Jeffrey. It's his birthday. We'll
be seeing him very soon. We uh, you know, he's
a couple of years younger than me, but I was,
I was, you know, Big Mac. He was Little Mac
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because he's two years younger. But uh yeah. He's a
faithful listener, watches The Herd. All his peeps where he
lives watch and send him screen crabs. It's listen. This
is all still pretty funny. I had a buddy who
is a huge Texas Longhorns fan. He's one of these guys,
like one of my insiders. Like he's all over the
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message boards, text chains, all that stuff because he's a
he graduated way back and he's usually pretty early on
some stuff. And he texted me last week like this
never gets old. And it was just an image of
a commercial from The Herd during the Major League Baseball playoffs,
And I just don't find all these funny guys again.
Let's see ten years ago, I was a blogger living
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outside Philadelphia. Twenty years ago, I was working at a newspaper.
I think, I well, actually I probably left the newspaper
to work in celebrity magazines at US Weekly. And now
I'm like on a TV show talk at Sports and
we got the podcast and like it's life is really
really crazy. And sometimes I get a lot of flak
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for talking about like Men's league basketball. We had a
nice win the other night and our other team, Yes,
I'm in two leagues, which is dumb. Body's just breaking
down that team's undefeated. We should win the title, but
we'll see the second best team, which features Danny Green.
It hasn't been at full strength that there's gonna be
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a problem, but we haven't been a full strength either.
We got some good players anyways, But like I get
flat for talking about this stuff and posting about it,
and I'm like, I don't know, guys. Maybe it's moving
to California and getting all like I'm not that hippie dippy,
but you know, I don't eat avocado toast regularly.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But I have.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Gotten very you know, thoughtful about life, and I've gotten
into some philosophy and life is short, you know, And
then you're gonna be dead, and in five years, nobody's
gonna remember you, other than maybe your kids. And after
ten years you're totally forgotten. Now thirty years, who cares.
So it doesn't matter if you're talking about your men's
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league basketball team on air or on a podcast. Honestly,
none of this matters. None of it honestly. Now, obviously
it feels good to win championships and win bets. I
don't feel great about tonight's bets. We'll talk about that
in a moment, but like, yeah, like listen, just have fun, enjoy. Yeah, obviously,
you know, get a job and you know, be a
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good husband and father and all that fun stuff. But
for instance, so I think I told you about this.
My son wanted to watch the movie Scream, so we
checked out some of that. He didn't seem scared. But
then we watched this Liam Neeson movie. You know, Liam
Neeson is mister Taken. So I showed my son. He's
fourteen Ice Road Vengeance. It was on Netflix, and it's
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basically the Liam Neeson theme which he's just made so
much money on. Somebody gets subducted, there's a storyline he's
got to kill them, like it's pretty basic and we're
mostly laughing through it. I did not fall asleep or
come close, but my son at moments was just like,
this is so fire. Oh he re really liked it,
and it was like I was like, it's okay again.
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If you got ninety minutes to kill, it's not the
worst thing in the world. There's some ridiculously impossible, goofy
things that happened, but that's you know, ninety percent of movies,
you know. I'm just saying the baseball last night was
blowout city. You know, pop on a movie ninety minutes
entertain me, you know, and Liam Neeson constantly delivers. I
will say I started watching The Morning Show again. I
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don't know if you guys remember that. Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Aniston,
John Ham, a lot of good actors on that show.
It's on Apple, Apple, TV, Apple Plus whatever they're calling
it now. Highly recommend The Morning Show. Now. I was
into media and newspapers and TV and all that nonsense,
so I really like this show. It is excellent. I
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think the storylines are pretty damn good. I think it's
a fantastic show. So that's my movie, Ice Road Vengeance,
and then TV would be the morning show. We did
sound like season three or four. They used to have
Steve Corell on there, but I won't say what happened
if you plan on watching it going anyways. Final side note,
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as we are talking about my favorite topic, me, So
I did something dumb. Guys. I you know, I'm a
bride and high on playing in all these men's basketball leagues,
and I decided I was going to enter a men's
basketball tournament out of state. But it's it's a specific tournament.
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It's only for those with Indian heritage, Indian, Muslim whatever. Essentially,
it's like a brownout if you will, I guess anybody mixed,
which is how I qualify it. They can also participate,
but they're pretty serious about backgrounds and all that fuff stuff.
So I'm gonna be playing in this soon, and I'm
kind of going in blind. You know, I only know
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three guys on our team, and you know, you gotta
fly out of state. I'm not trying to fly out
of state to play in a basketball tournament and potentially lose.
That to me, is a colossal waste of time. Yeah,
it could be fun hanging with these guys, but here's
the crazy part. So they just released the rosters and
we'll have seven guys and then other rosters. Every other
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team has ten, And I'm like, what the hell's going
on here? Wait a minute, how do we only get seven?
And you know we got some old guys being on
this other dude. Now, the best part is I just
found out, you know, in these leagues out here in LA,
it's all NBA three point line. This league is college
three point line. So your boy, he might cook in
this thing. I don't know if I have any legs
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for day two. Yeah, it's a two day tournament. I'm like, bro,
I mean, am I showering in between games? Anyways?
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Let's tackle the sports world again. The baseball game last
night was kind of weak, just really not that. The
whole series to me has been uninteresting. It's been just blowout.
Some Blue Jays win thirteen to four. The game before
that was ten three Mariners, and the game before that, oh,
the first game was three to one Mariners. But I
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don't I just don't know what to make of it.
Everybody I think is rooting for Seattle versus the Dodgers.
And tonight, you know, another good night in sports. You
get the Dodgers at home, pitching glass now against I
don't even know who's pitching for the Brewers, and oh,
that's actually an afternoon game here in LA. And then
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you get Blue Jays Mariners at night, and you obviously
get Bengals Steelers. Now I will quickly dive into this game.
I bet the Bengals getting five and a half. I'm
only under forty three, which looks like a bad bet
because the line is now up to forty four or
forty four and a half depending on where you're shopping.
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And when I say that, one of the sites I
like to go to and it's free, is this site
called don Beest dot com and you can basically cherry
pick the sports books you want and then line shop.
So obviously I get the ones that are considered the
sharp books where they take big, big money. They're not
afraid of taking money from big betters, and usually big
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betters are good betters, not always, obviously, if some dope
comes in and bets a bad line five hundred thousand.
You know, he's just a rich idiot. But you know
you'll do Pinnacle, Circus Sports, super Book, Draft, Kings, FanDuel.
You know, you'll put them all in there and then
you can see. Usually the sharpest books move before the
rest of the market and they just follow. Interestingly, this
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has kind of been stuck on five and a half.
I do see a five. So my guess is, if
anybody's on a side here, it's probably Cincy. Again, Like
I know that the Steelers are four and one, I
get it. Everybody. You know, they're on top of the division.
They're number two in the AFC. None of the metrics
like this Pittsburgh Steelers team. Now it's early, but they
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just haven't shown anything. You know. Again, these are the
Pittsburgh Steeler wins so far, and you could play this
game with basically every team because you know, there's not
that many good teams. So they beat the windless Jets.
They needed a comeback and a sixty yard field goal. Okay.
Then they beat the Patriots, which was a good win
on the surface. Oh, they beat the Patriots. Patriots are good.
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Patriots turned the ball over five times. That's why Pittsburgh
won the game, okay, and it's not like Pittsburgh's out
here creating havoc with TJ Watt. TJ Watt has been
like good but not amazing. Then they beat the Vikings
and it wasn't the great Vikings team because it was
Carson Wentz in London and you could see Carson Wentz.
He looked totally shook. Okay, and then you're gonna say, well,
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what about Carson Wentz against the Bengals. He was good
Carson Wentz. They beat him forty nine to fourteen. The
defense had two touchdowns? Were you talking about? That was
Jake Browning on the road That wasn't like Carson Wentz
was amazing. He's a placeholder. So then he had to
face Mike Tomlin and Wentz was awful. They came back
and lost, and then the the Steelers beat Dylan Gabriel
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coming off a London trip, which was one of the
easiest bets of last week and my biggest bet of
the season so far. So tell me what's impressive about
beating backup rookie quarterback back up in Carson Wentz. Patriots
turned over five times and the Jets are winless. And
the worst team in football. I just I don't see
greatness in this Pittsburgh team. Now, greatness may not be
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needed to beat the Bengals because they're horrible. I will
say Cincinnati at home probably puts up a fight here.
And part of the logic is so Flacco was horrendous
in that first half. I think we mentioned it either
two days ago or yesterday. They were out gained by
like two hundred yards at some point in the second quarter. Now,
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maybe the Packers lay down after that, you know, and
just played it conservatively, or the Bengals kind of unlocked
something with Flacco because he and Jamar Chase had some
kind of mind meld going on. And next thing you know,
it's like, oh, this is a competitive game. The Bengals
are covered the spread, and oh, if the Bengals can
get the third down stop, wait a minute, they could
win this outright. And I had the Packers and survivor
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with my buddy, and I'm just like somewhat sweating it.
And then Love delivers a strike to Matthew Golden and
that was that. Again, Cincinnati is not a good football team.
But you're not betting teams, really, you're betting numbers, and
I know five is kind of a dead number, but
it's on the other half of four. You know, twenty
one to seventeen Steelers win, You win your bet and
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I win my under. I don't know if Arthur Smith
and Rogers will be dialing up great stuff here. By
the way, they didn't look great against the Browns last week.
They were just kind of playing with their food and middling.
This is just not a Pittsburgh team that I think
is that impressive. Nothing about them screams, oh, They're gonna
run away and hide from Cincinnati on the road, even
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when you do the Pro Football Focus matchups. And again,
I know Pro Football Focus is not everything. It's just
one data point. I mean, they are extremely soft in
the middle. Their interior run defense is horrible. Hayward's playing well,
but Queen is one of the lowest graded linebackers. Is
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that Roman Wilson, No Logan Peyton Wilson. Oh my goodness.
He's ranked grades out as his seventy second out of
seventy seven linebackers. Thornhill, who used to play for the
Chiefs at safety, seventy sixth graded safety out of eighty three.
Ramsey's playing well good luck against t Higgins or Jamar
Chase Darius big play sleag.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
He gonna be cooked.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
He's thirty four.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But Porter's back. He's a good quarter in the slot.
The concern, obviously, is the Cincinnati offensive line. It is
downright putrid.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To quote.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Damon Wayans in the last Boy Scout, they couldn't protect
a couple of warm piss rob Gi may have to
delete that, but boyttom, they're not good. They can't block anybody.
But Flacco's smart enough and cagey enough and enough of
a veteran that he's seen just about everything. There's a
reason Mike Tomlin kind of took some shots at the
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Browns for trading him. Tomlin essentially said, wait a minute,
these guys thought enough of Flacco to start him week one,
and then now they're trading him to a division rival
in October. What's going on? Like Tomlin's really upset about it,
and you know, again, it's one thing to face Jake Browning.
You're not worried about that. You know, Browning had a
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moment last year or two years ago, whenever he filled
in for Burrow. That's gone. The moment now belongs to Flacco.
Who we know took the Browns to the playoffs with
a hot run. I think it was two years ago.
So I'm just gonna go ahead and bet On Flacco
Chase Higgins here to put up points and keep it interesting.
I don't think they win. I definitely would not take
Pittsburgh and survivor if they're calling this the Ben Gay
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Bowl or something like that, because Rogers in flak or
both over forty so it's not that appealing. But yeah,
I did bet the under forty three, and I'm on
the Bengals as well. There was one other NFL topic
I wanted to dive into. Oh oh, so it's we
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talked a lot about to yesterday, So I'm not gonna
talk about to kind of recanting his I made a
mistake for calling out teammates. I just this Philadelphia Eagles
thing is interesting. So you guys know, I'm bullish on
Jalen Hurts. I'm not changing my opinion that he's the
fifth best quarterback in the league, and I know people
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they really don't like to hear that. For whatever reason
people think Jalen Hurts is he's just not a great
passing quarterback and if he has to throw over thirty times.
He's terrible. Okay, maybe he's not great throwing a lot. Well,
you know it's funny. People love to make excuses for
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guys they like. Well, did you know Jared Goff has
played with like six different offensive coordinators in eight years
or whatever the number is. Well, Patrick Mahomes was a missing,
Xavier Worthy and Recie Rice. You know, we love to
make excuses. Did you know Jalen Hurts has had a
different offensive coordinator every single season he's been in the NFL.
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That's crazy. It was Kellimore last year. He leaves. They
promote this new guy, Kevin Petulo, And if you read
the media on Philly or listen to radio or see
social media, they're ready to like fire the OC just
because they're four and two and the offense has not
looked amazing. I mean, forget it that Landon Dickerson's hurt,
you know, or that Saquon Barkley can't get started. I mean,
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Saquon Barkley's really on the struggle bus. I don't know
what to make of the Eagles going into Minnesota. It
is interesting that Minnesota's off a bye. All the teams
that were on a buy the week prior won and covered.
Kevin O'Connell a great coach. He's playing, he's being very
cagey with who is starting quarterback is going to be?
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Is it gonna be Wentz? Is it going to be McCarthy. Oh,
we don't. We don't know yet. So Eagles kind of
sort of have to prepare for both of them. But
the vibes around Philly just don't seem great right now.
And I know you can't fire someone on vibes, but
since that fourth quarter against the Broncos where they were
outscored eighteen zero, they have been outscored fifty two to seventeen.
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The fourth quarter against the Broncos and then that perplexing
game against the Giants. By the way, it's I did
side note, I saw a funny nickname for Scataboo and
Jackson Dart and there was some play on the term
whites for the Eagles secondary, which features you know, the
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Cooper de Gene obviously, and somebody somebody had mentioned, like, yes,
Scataboo and Dart need a nickname. Can they get elite
whites because they've got a white running back at a white
quarterback who kind of have this like bromance going on.
They're super popular right now in New York. I'm sure
on the bye week if they were to go out
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Upper East Side, so wherever they're gonna they're gonna have
women just throwing themselves at them like they're living the dream.
I just I'm not buying that. I still don't know
how they thumped the Eagles. First half was super competitive.
Eagles just did not show in the second half and
as a result, I guess my whole build up is
for this. What if the Eagles go to Minnesota and lose,
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to say Carson Wentz, former Eagle, they fall to five,
four and three. There's been all this a J Brown
noise out there in the ether. I mean, would this
be a bad enough loss that aj Brown like demands
a trade or something. Reminder, they won the Super Bowl
in February by beating the daylights out of Kansas City.
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They started four and oh they haven't looked great, but
all they've got his two losses. If you have a
third straight loss, like, do the wheels come off fully?
What happens? I saw a report from Jeremy Fowler. We've
had him on the podcast where the vibes around the
team are similar to twenty twenty three. Now, that was
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the year after they went to the Super Bowl, and
they sputtered badly. There was like infighting, and I'm fairly
certain they got smashed in the playoffs by the Bucks. Folks.
I don't know what to make of the Eagles. I
had a buddy in Philly even tell me, oh yeah
that trust me. Aj Brown had some like I don't know,
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he had some big party in the summer and a
bunch of teammates with Aaron. Jalen Hurts wasn't there. Now,
I'm sure listen, Jalen Hurts has a lot going on.
That guy's like a big time traveling internationally with the
Jordan Brent. I don't know why he wasn't there. I
don't even know what kind of party it was, but
it might have been a wedding for all I know.
Bottom line, something seems off about this team, and I
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was reluctant to give it any oxygen. But now that
they lose to and they kind of have a difficult
one with Philly going to Minnesota, I don't know what
becomes of these Philadelphia Eagles. I'm a little nervous. I'll
just say I have no money on this game, but
I've been watching the line. It was Eagles two and
a half went down to one and a half. Now,
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that's obviously not a huge move, But is this the
kind of thing where I don't know, perhaps the Eagles
closes underdogs on the road. Imagine losing to Carson Wentz.
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Sunday one pm Slate is just unbelievably awful. Chiefs are
favored by a billion Dylan Gabriel versus unwatchable Miami Mike
Vrabel versus a team that just fired their coach. Saints
Bear's kind of maybe has some juice. I did take
a nibble on Saints five and a half, just not much.
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Carolina Jets is two of the worst organizations in the league,
and the best game is Philly Minnesota and the four
o'clock window. Colts Chargers is good like Washington Dallas. There's
gonna be points, but like there's not a lot of
good games. Again, Ravens and Bills on a buy You've
got Matt Stafford in the Rams playing at six point
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thirty in the morning, and you get two Monday night games. Again, Uh,
hold on, is it too Yeah, it is too Tampa Detroit,
which is good, and Houston Seattle.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Which is good.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
We're Joe Burrow's obviously out, which hurts. But we're in
a weird moment in the league where I get it.
The NFL wants to maximum. When you're hot, you're hot, max,
demise your profits. What's the bread and butter of the NFL?
Is it Sunday night football which draws the biggest audience?
Is it Monday Night football? It certainly is not Thursday
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Night Football. I would say it's the one pm slate,
which is basically the beginning of seven hours of football.
And I don't know how many of you guys out
there are like me and you're able to convince your
family that you need to do this every weekend, which
is watch football for like seven hours. But to me,
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that is the end. Like, yeah, of course I like
Monday Night football and Sunday and football, but that product
just isn't as great because there's so many fricking commercials.
The fact that you can get twelve games happening or
whatever at the same time for seven hours. Essentially, you know,
you stagger with six and three or whatever. It is.
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That to me is when the NFL is at its best,
and I just worry that they're so hard up to
stretch and make more money, you know, I know, sorry capitalism.
We got to do Thursday, then we got to do
two on Monday. I don't remember two on Monday. Like
three weeks in a row. Is that like a thing?
I mean, it's crazy, Like, give us more game. I
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actually prefer balance on Sundays, you know, as opposed to
three in the afternoon. But guess what, they don't want
that because get you know why, because they want one
game in the four to twenty five Eastern slot that
gets most of the country and then results in like
twenty five million viewers so they can flex. Hey, twenty
five million people watch Washington Dallas. They don't care now
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they are NFL or told you they don't really care
about their their audience in like they want to maximize profits,
which I totally get. But at some point, do you
push too far? Because frankly, I mean tonight's game, I
don't know what your appetite is but I'm it's not
mandatory view for me. I'll have my phone and I
can always just check it out. But I'm not like
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I gotta be in front of a TV for this Sunday.
I'm in front of a TV. But a lot like
these standalone games. That's the dirty secret about the NFL.
The standalone games, it's not an amazing product all the time,
just because there's so many commercials and there's not a
ton of action. Now you get seven games on at
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the same time. There's constant action. That's you know, and
maybe or maybe I'm just weird. I know some people
are like, oh, I just love the standalone games, and
I like the standalone games of course, but I don't know.
I'm just rambling here, but it just it struck me
as odd that I think this is three Mondays in
a row. We've had two games. Now. I'm not complaining
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because those are good games, but then you kind of
bastardize the Sunday Slate, you know, it doesn't help the
Cleveland is a bottom feeder in Miami, which was watchable
two years ago that you can't watch Miami right now.
New York Giants. I know there's some excitement over Dart
and Scatterboo, but they're not a vertical. They can't like
put up points, Carolina's gate, Carolina's fourth quarter against the Cowboys,
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or fight at home was exciting. Nobody doesn't. Nobody's getting
in front of a TV to watch Carolina Jets. It's
just that's not how it works. Even the Bears that
look good, like the Saints, are not really watchable now.
The games themselves end up good because just like the NBA,
the final five minutes, Oh, that's thrilling stuff. But I
don't know, maybe I'm just too down. Like the Tennessee
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right now is unwatchable and I'm a fool because I
picked them in the winds Pool, which I'm in dead
last right now, which sucks because I had the third
overall pick and I think a third ers second, and
I wanted the Bills, but the Bills went right before me,
so I was like, oh, I'll take the Ravens now
Lamar's hurt and the Ravens have one win. The Falcons
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are carrying me. I have Tennessee and then I have
Arizona which lost colb so I've got backup quarterback and
Kyler Murray fired coach in Tennessee backup quarterback in Cooper Rush. Now,
I do think the schedule for Lamar, I'll come on
strong in the second half. I think the Falcons are
going to be there. I don't know what to make
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of Arizona. I mean, for all we know, Jonathan Gannon
could get fired. But listen, enjoy the games tonight and
we'll see tomorrow