February 4, 2025 • 23 mins
On today’s episode, Jason discusses the scuttlebutt around the NBA that the Phoenix Suns could be forced to trade Kevin Durant if they can't find a way to flip Bradley Beal at the deadline, why he thinks a forward-thinking franchise would be wise to make a move on Atlanta Hawks superstar point guard Trae Young and which NFL teams make the most sense for Myles Garrett now that the Browns' All-Pro pass rusher has officially requested a trade out of Cleveland.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up, Straight Fire?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, Febuary fourth,
and oh boy, yesterday was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It was a fun one, ladies and gents.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
As I'm sure you've seen by now, Coward got a
little sick on air.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
They had to go to the bullpen and called me
in a relief.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It was the starter departing after you know, the flu
like symptoms, shall we say, in the middle of the
first inning, and I had to bring it home. But
you know, hopefully Coward's feeling better and he's back in
the saddle today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We still don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I will just say this, it was fun and exciting
and obviously doing this podcast I think helps me immensely
when it comes to stepping in and hosting. Like they
were like, j Mac, we need fifteen minutes like now,
and you know, I haven't prepped anything with them fifteen
minutes on the trade and I'm like, well, I did
(01:06):
forty with last night.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
This is Cake, so I was able to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So obviously Straight Fire really giving me a boost. And yes,
I'm a little excited to do the pod today, not
just because of the new audience, but also also because
we can.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Do a victory lap. Folks.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The name Kevin Durant is starting to pop up. Yes,
it is, and we talked about it last week. Hey,
Bradley Beal's contract is total dogwater. As my thirteen year
old likes to say, it is awful. Nobody wants it.
They were trying to redirect it to Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
They don't want it. Nobody seems to want Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Side note, Bradley Beal's wife posted some stuff about they
were getting heckled. She's there with at a game with
her young son getting heckled by a Sun's fan, and
it was like, come on, fans, we got to do better.
Layoff wives and kids. Okay, come on, that's just not cool.
If it's an ig model, different story, but but this
is like a family, come on. And anyway, so Bradley
(02:03):
Beal doesn't seem like he could be moved. And the
Golden State Warriors, as you read in certain parts of
the Internet, including the Athletic, the Golden State Warriors had
Zach Levine as one of their targets. He's off the table.
He's now in Sacramento reunited with DeMar de Rosen. It
didn't work in Chicago, but maybe now that they're older,
it'll work at Sacramento. I don't know, but Kevin Durant's
(02:23):
name is starting to emerge as potential. Would he go
back to Golden State now? Jake Fisher, who's been on
this podcast, he used to be a Bleacher Report.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He now works with Mark Stein.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They are saying it's unclear if Durant would be open
to going back to Golden State, whether the Suns.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know, whether they would even do something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They do want Jimmy Butler, but it doesn't seem like
they can get off a bill, and Butler has come
out and said, I'm not going to sign an extension
in Golden State. My guess is he doesn't think Curry's
going to be long for the Warriors, and all of
a sudden, you've got the February sixth trade deadline looming.
Rob g Listen Man Kevin Durant, I don't know if
(03:08):
we can call him friend of the show, frenemy of
the show.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I mean Kevin Durant, who knows the wind blows a
different direction and he's feeling strong vibes that way, But
I don't know. I'm gonna go ahead and say I
don't see Kevin Durant going back to Golden State. I
know he's big with narratives and he's big with like
where people how they view him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do you think he wants to go back to the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's not like him and Draymond, to the best of
my knowledge, ever patch things up. Draymond treated him like garbage.
Draymond apparently as a changed person. He tried to bury
the hatchet with Jordan Poole recently with the always great Hey,
I sucker punched you, but can we get over it?
That was a few years ago that I'm sure that's
gonna go over real well.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't even know if the Warriors would have enough
to secure KD. Because if you're assuming Butler goes from
Miami to Phoenix, KD goes Phoenix to the Warriors. What
goes to Miami? Because Golden said, what you're getting excited
(04:15):
about Kuminga and pods And I mean, you don't want TJD.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You got Bamaebayo.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like, I don't know, do the Heat want anything? Are
there enough good picks to go around. I don't know
rob any early thoughts on KD going back to Golden
State potentially.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, my first thought is shout out to me and
you for being ahead of the curve on this one.
People who listened to the Weekend Pod last week, we
were talking about friend of the Show Brian Windhorse floating
out this idea that hey, somebody could get moved there's
a big fish that you know potentially. Now, we didn't
know it was gonna be Luca Donche. Honestly, I don't
think Wendy eve knew it was gonna be Luka Dne.
(04:51):
But we started to speculate, Okay, well, who could it
possibly be that's gonna, you know, really shake up the
fabric of the NBA, And you floated out Durant. And
the reason was, and this is something we talked about
in the last week's pot We're gonna reach it a
little bit, was Bradley Beal holds all the cards in
this situation, fowl or fair like, that's the situation. Because
(05:13):
he has the no trade clause, he can dictate, Hey,
I don't want to go here, I don't want to
go there. I don't want to go there, and his
agent on more than one occasion has come out and
said he will not be signing off on a trade
to la not to one in Chicago, not to want
to like he listed teams, and I've never seen that
happen before. I've never seen an agent preemptively come out
(05:34):
and say we are not going to wave our no
trade clause for this city. And the reporting over the
weekend was if Bradley Beal were to wave his trade clause,
he would have to be to a warm weather city
and a team that is ready to compete for a championship.
If you're gonna go process of elimination, that really only
(05:55):
leaves the West Coast, which you know, the Lakers don't
have anything to trade for him.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The Clippers are not going to trade for him.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I don't think Golden State would, and the Texas teams
and Miami, well, Miami, according to the athletic is like,
we don't want.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Bradley Beal, point blank, period.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't care what.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It costs, we do not want him. And this is
what we talked about on Friday. If you can't trade
Bradley Beal, the Phoenix Suns, who are the definition of
mediocrity with this Big three if you can call him
that have one of two options. Number one, you trade
Devin Booker, which they're not going to do. He's younger,
he's a homegrown guy. Or you entertain trading Kevin Durant
(06:33):
because you are so deep in the hole financially with
this new second April number one, and you have no
draft picks, so you have to find a way to
either get other players that can step in two three
guys that can fill the KD Booker Beal role, or
you got to get so many picks that wants this
Beal Booker thing kind of flames out because we know
(06:55):
it's not going to be a championship. You can replenish
the cupboard some way, some four. And as great as
KD is, I don't see him wanting to go back
to Golden even if they did agree to the terms,
I don't see KD just saying yes, you agreed to it.
It's gonna be Kaminga and Wiggins and two First, nah,
(07:16):
I'm good. And I think Phoenix, even though he doesn't
have a no trade cross like Beal, would have to
just accept, Hey, we don't want to do this guy
dirty like that because he's been nothing but a good
soldier for us since he's gotten here.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah. No, this is a tough one.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's very difficult to pinpoint how this would go down.
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Speaker 3 (07:47):
Let me enter a late name into the mix. Okay,
I have not heard his name bandied about now. However,
last summer he was, you know, perhaps gonna be on
the Lakers lineup or a roster. So the Atlanta Hawks
recently lost. I would argue their foundational piece, Jalen Johnson,
(08:08):
the kid you guys remember him. He was a Duke
and then he kind of decided he was like a
five star or whatever. The high McDonald's alomara. He was
like one of the best players in his class, goes
to Duke. I think this was a COVID year, maybe
twenty one, and then Duke was just not good and
he ends up like walking out on the team and
everybody labeled him a quitter. Meanwhile, this guy's ridiculously talented,
(08:29):
but he had that label, so he fell a little
bit in the draft.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Jalen Johnson is a young guy.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
He's he had been averaging eighteen ten and five this season,
and he just looks like a like a major stud.
I'm trying to find his age. He is twenty three
years old. Okay, he's done for the season. Since he's
been out, they have started to crater a little bit
in Atlanta, Rob, I don't know if you can see
where I'm going with this. They are currently ninth in
(08:57):
the East. We'll see what happens with the bull after
they unload Levine. The Sixers are probably gonna end up
passing the Hawks once guys start coming back. The Raptors
kind of stink. But there's a world, Rob where the
Hawks can say, hey, we lost Johnson, He'll be back
next year. He's our guy. We like DeAndre Hunter, you know.
(09:18):
We like Dyson Daniels, who is a ridiculous defender. He's
starting to show some things. We got the young kid,
Resa Scha Clint Capella. We could move him. Is there
a world where the Atlanta Hawks say, what if we
moved off Trey Young, got off Trey Young, send him
to Miami and we decide we're gonna tank.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think now.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I don't know if Trey Young fits rob Gie's favorite
line hashtag heat culture, because he's like undersized and doesn't
really defend a lot and a defensive back cooard of
Trey Young and Tyler Hero ain't stopping much. But I'm
just gonna float the name Trey Young out there. It's
tough right now because point guards, even Deer and Fox,
rob this is a who put up awesome numbers, and
(10:01):
then you look at You're like, oh, he's been to
the playoffs once, it hasn't even won a round.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know, he can't be your best player? Could he
be your second best? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Trey Young was the Hawk's best. They got to a
conference finals. Now things broke their way, remember they took
down the Sixers. I don't know, Rob, I gotta ask
Trey Young. I don't know if like people are kind
of off him now, but I think he leads the
league in assists. Maybe as he matures he becomes a
passable defender.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know, But can you see a.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Guy like Trey Young and the Hawks deciding, yeah, it's
not for us, Let's see if we can get Trey
Young to Miami or something.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
In the next year or so. Absolutely because and I
think this is honestly unfair to Trey Young, but the
narrative at this point precedes him. There is absolutely nothing
he can do save growing two inches and adding thirty pounds.
They're gonna make people think that he can be a
passable defender in the NBA. Guy, you know, not count
the fact that he averages something like twenty five and
twelve as an undersized point guard. Like, he's never gonna
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get a appreciate it for what he does there, because
the narrative is always going to be, well, he's the
worst defender in the NBA and you got to too
many things to make it work. What's funny about the
Miami Heat situation, though, is, as it was reported, the
reason why they don't want Bradley beal aside from the
no trade clause, is that they want to have their
books clean for twenty six and twenty seven. If we
(11:22):
assume that Luka Doncic is off the board and he's
with the Lakers, you know, it's Jokic, who I don't
think is ever going to leave Denver, it's Yannis, and
it's Trey Young. So if the goal was to have
cap space for those summers. Why wouldn't you be proactive
(11:42):
and go and get him, you know what I mean? Like,
I know heat culture is a thing, and you know,
like you said, he probably doesn't fit that mold because
he's not a gritty kind of a player. But at
this point, like what do you have to lose if
you're Miami your roster as even though I know they've
made the finals, what two years of the last five
or six, there's nobody who's ever talking about the Heat
(12:04):
coming into a season as a championship contender, because you know,
once you get beyond Bam Hero for now, Jimmy Butler,
it's like what else do you have? It's guys. It's
guys that they find and fit and they work there
in Miami and for whatever reason, they don't work anywhere else.
Shout out Kendrick Nunn, Gabe Vincent, was it Tyler Johnson?
(12:25):
Like there's a long list of guys who work had
to working with. So at some point you just need
a talent infusion. And if you can get Trey Young
for the cheap and maybe not as cheap as you
know what danon Fox went for, I don't see why
you wouldn't make a move like that, or try to
at least.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The only other name I could come up with is
a young kid in Detroit, Jayden Ivy went to Purdue.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Kid Cunningham has been a revelation. I don't, I don't.
Did he get named to an All Star team or
was he the biggest?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yes? I mean I went to the Lakers Pistons game
and I just watched him. I mean, he's a stut.
That guy can play, he can go, and I you know,
Ivy needs the ball in his hands. He's having an
awesome year's shooting forty percent from three. I would consider
selling high on Jade and Ivy and getting, you know, a.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Little more maturity. The Pistons could be a plucky team
in the first round.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm not saying they're taking down the Calves or anything crazy,
but I do think they will be a bit of
a tougher out against one of those medium teams beyond the.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Like like the Bucks. They could push the Bucks for
a couple of games.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
The Bucks aren't very good, right, but it could even
be a five game series.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But every game is close, so something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, they're like, oh there's something here. It's time to
level up so you can move off Jae n Ivy.
But I don't know, like what that's the problem? Rong
these guards. This is gonna sound so dumb, but like
our men's league basketball team, it's easy to find guards, right,
there's a million, But it's tough to give me a
six four to six five guy. You know in a
men's league, that's a big guy. You know you five
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six to seven. Oh, that's a home run. But it's
there's just so many guards. It's like what am I
doing with Jay and not? Is he better than Tyler Hero?
Tyler Hero looks like a study, you know, and I
just I don't know that a lot of it's weird.
I love Jimmy Butler, but Rob does it? Do you
get a sense that his market is starting to shrink?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, he's kind of made it so that his market
is only Phoenix. And the problem is unless they can
figure out Bradley Beal, Like, I don't think it's gonna happen,
my guy. To your point about the point guards, I'm
looking at the NBA standings right now as we're recording,
and say what you want about the guy, But let
me just read the list of point guards in the
Eastern Conference, Donovan Mitchell, what is it? Drew Holliday, but
(14:31):
I guess they don't really have a point guard. Jalen Brunson,
Tyreus Halliburt and Damian Lillard. I get Tyler hero I
technically is their point guard there? Cad Cunningham. They don't
have a point guard in Orlando. That's one Trey Young.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Wait a minute, Jalen Suggs, Is he.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Really a point guard?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Though?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You know, I like him more than he's great.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
The right, Kobe White, Tyrese Maxey. I don't know about
Toronto DiAngelo former All Star DeAngelo Russell in Brooklyn, LaMelo Ball,
Jordan Poole. Like, there's what two teams where you say, man,
their point guard situation is rough. So twelve of the
fourteen or thirteen of the fifteen have a quality you
(15:14):
would say. Point guard is the deepest position in the league.
And it kind of makes it so that the market
is kind of suppressed with cause it's interchangeable.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
At this point.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
It's like an NFL running back. You can find a
scoring guard damn near anywhere if you look, if you
want one. DJ McCollum exactly, Cam Thomas Cam Thomas gets
you buckets somewhere in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, it's it's really toughest guard market.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know. What
what do you do with bial? What do the Warriors do?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And this idea to just sit it out to me
reeks of like punting on the season, and that's just
Steph Curry's thirty six guys.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, you want to punt on this? Really? Is
that what we're doing? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's NBA could end up getting very crazy this week.
I mean I don't think that there would be any movement,
but like, what about a guy like Zion Williamson, Rob
I don't even know what to make of.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The Pelicans are so rotten.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
They have twelve wins, they are firmly in the Cooper
Flag sweepstakes. Everybody seems to be hurt. I mentioned Team
C Jim McCollums. So I just looked at their their
roster and you know, Trey Murphy is lighting. He's been
awesome for that relation, Yeah, but he's putting up hollow
points on a bad team.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Or is he Kevin Love?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Remember Kevin Love on Minnesota never made the I don't
think ever made the playoffs, but he's putting him like
twenty five and twelve.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It was like, oh, Kevin Love got to get on it.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And then he goes and he was kind of like
not great in Cleveland, and somebody had to be the
fall guy, you know, when you're the number three guy
with Lebron. But if I'm one of these teams like
de Jonta Murray now out for the season with an achilles,
it's like, what are we doing.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let's just start selling guys like brandon Ingram. What's the
market for brandon Ingram?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
That's that's a good question because on an inspiring contract,
he's a former I think he might have been All
NBA or on the borderline All NBA one year. Yeah,
he's been an All Star. He's smack in the middle
of his prime. You would think that we could, yes,
think the market for brandon Ingram will be much hotter
than what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But again, this in CJ.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
McCollum's you know NBA, where they've made it so prohibitive
to get big contract players that are not all world like.
That's the problem because according to all the reports that
Clutch Sports and brandon Ingram want Max money and bro
if you I mean, if you're a team like De
Troy where you're only paying you know, you have Kid
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Cunningham and other guys like that would have make sense.
But then do you really want to go into your
future with Brandon Ingram as your number two? You probably
like him as a number three somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But maybebe you're a playing team if he's your number two.
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Speaker 3 (18:01):
We could wrap up here real quick because the NBA
wasn't crazy enough. The NFL got some trade news early
Monday morning. Miles Garrett has said I would like to
be traded. Allegedly the Cleveland Browns are saying thank you
for that update, but it's not happening. I don't necessarily
believe that, Rob. I do think there's going to be
a market for Garrett. And again, I'm one of these guys.
(18:23):
If it ain't working, just start over, tear it down,
and I've got some teams here for Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
First of all, he's still in his prime. He's still elite.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
That being said, I don't know how much more of
his prime he'll have. I know, defensive ends like Von
Miller and these guys have had some extended careers. But again,
Miles Garrett has I mean the wear and tear on
his body. Dude, I mean, he's played a lot of football.
He is twenty nine, he'll be thirty next December. I'll
(18:55):
just be clear right now. I don't think you're getting
two number ones for Miles Garrett. I just don't think
that's happening. I just I don't see that. That being said,
if you're Washington, okay, do you say, hey, we got
the twenty ninth pick. Our defense sucks, we could use
some leadership. Dan Quinn's a defensive guy. Why don't we
just give up our first round pick? And then, I
(19:17):
don't know, whatever else you you know that isn't related
to Jaydon Daniels or the team's success.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Let's just give that up. What it Browns, What do
you guys need?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And you move on.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Remember they whiffed on Chase Chase Young from Ohio State
and thought he would be a Miles Garrett and he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I don't see why Washington says, hey, we're paying our
quarterback nothing. Let's go get Miles Garrett. We need to go.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
We need to go chase quarterbacks. And we just got
run over by Saquon. If I'm Washington, I'm all in.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Are you not? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I mean once I saw the news, because the news
broke while I was flying to the Super Bowl. And
I don't know if he knows nowadays J Mack, but
the TVs get live television now, some of them.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Some of the air like they.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Don't have it on Southwest when I fly, you know,
to Vegas, but Delta shout out to them. I was
able to watch the news breaking as it happened that
he had requested the trade. Oh and the first team
I thought of was Washington, not just because they have
the young quarterback on the rookie deal, but because if
you look at their cap space for twenty twenty five,
the top five teams cap space in order New England,
(20:18):
which you know, I like Drake May, but I don't
think Miles Garrett is gonna say I can win immediately
with Drake May the Raiders. It'd be great to parent
with Max Crosbill. We don't have a quarterback Washington, Chicago
Chargers Chicago.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, that's not bad. So what about Detroit.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I mean, Detroit has the eighth most capspace, fifty six
million entering twenty twenty five. I guess the only problem
with that is if you're Detroit is your window is
two years. Max, I think, well, I think the window
is already shrinking. Losing both cords.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Sure, sure, but you get Hutchison and Garrett, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Them going after Miles Garrett, you have to give up
I would assume at least a one and a two
to get him, probably a one two three something something
around there. If you make that kind of move, you're
basically going full Rams that they did with the Stafford,
Aaron Donald OBJ Cooper Cup team, where it's hey, our
run is two years, and if we can't get it
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done in two years, we're kind of fucked because we
were not going to be able to keep all these
guys anymore. And you know, Minnesota has cap space too,
but they're in the same kind of situation where because
they're gonna have to pay. I mean, if they don't
keep Donald, maybe you can do that with JJ McCarthy.
But Miles Garrett said the reason why he wants out
of Cleveland is because he wants to win his super
Bowl and he just as high as anyone might be
(21:38):
on JJ McCarthy. I don't think in year one he
makes the Vikings a super Bowl team, you know, So
that's a that's an.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Interesting situation, probably tough.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I will say, though, this this whole Miles Garrett thing,
it feels like the what is it, the the final remnants,
the last insult of the Deshaun Watson contract, because before
they had Watson, when it was Baker Mayfield, they were
building something. You might say Baker had a get a
cap and he wasn't able to get never going to
be reaching that ceiling. But once they gave up everything
(22:11):
they gave up for Watson plus the contract, they they
can't move off of him. Yeah, realistically, so you're trapped.
So it cost you what the prime years of Nick Chubb,
if you want to it probably cost getting hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But they had Odell, they had jervis Land. Yeah, they
had it. They pieces. I think they beat.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Pittsburgh in a playoff game, and I don't remember what
happened in their next seat was it did they lose
to the Chiefs?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They lost to the Chips.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Mahomes got the concussion, remember, and they had like a chance,
but I guess Baker could not deliver on her drugs.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Chad Henny, Chad Henny came up clutch for Casey.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Chad Henny clutched up. That's right, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And so they were right there, and then once they
make the move for Deshaun Watson, it's like everything fell
apart so quickly and now you're this is like the
last bill that has to be paid where it's gonna
cost you. Arguably the best play to come through there
since Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Big swing. It was a big swing for Watson. At
the time, I liked it. I did.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
They were desperate Watson, but that was when he was good,
and we didn't know that he was creepy.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We didn't know he was full on creepy.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
We were like, there were rumblings of it, but it
wasn't what it is now. It's like justin Tucker level stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now, well, we didn't know. We didn't know.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
We didn't know that he needed to get the he
needed to be a predator basically to be a good
football player.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh allegedly, but it's not a terrible take. Yeah, I'm
glad you went there on me. Anyways.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
All right, fun stuff listen. NBA is gonna be chaotic
this week. Super Bowl bets are coming later in the week.
We got a good interview with an author that you
guys are like. But that's it for today.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We'll talk to you tomorrow. See then,
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, Febuary fourth,
and oh boy, yesterday was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It was a fun one, ladies and gents.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
As I'm sure you've seen by now, Coward got a
little sick on air.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
They had to go to the bullpen and called me
in a relief.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It was the starter departing after you know, the flu
like symptoms, shall we say, in the middle of the
first inning, and I had to bring it home. But
you know, hopefully Coward's feeling better and he's back in
the saddle today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We still don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I will just say this, it was fun and exciting
and obviously doing this podcast I think helps me immensely
when it comes to stepping in and hosting. Like they
were like, j Mac, we need fifteen minutes like now,
and you know, I haven't prepped anything with them fifteen
minutes on the trade and I'm like, well, I did
(01:06):
forty with last night.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
This is Cake, so I was able to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So obviously Straight Fire really giving me a boost. And yes,
I'm a little excited to do the pod today, not
just because of the new audience, but also also because
we can.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Do a victory lap. Folks.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The name Kevin Durant is starting to pop up. Yes,
it is, and we talked about it last week. Hey,
Bradley Beal's contract is total dogwater. As my thirteen year
old likes to say, it is awful. Nobody wants it.
They were trying to redirect it to Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
They don't want it. Nobody seems to want Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Side note, Bradley Beal's wife posted some stuff about they
were getting heckled. She's there with at a game with
her young son getting heckled by a Sun's fan, and
it was like, come on, fans, we got to do better.
Layoff wives and kids. Okay, come on, that's just not cool.
If it's an ig model, different story, but but this
is like a family, come on. And anyway, so Bradley
(02:03):
Beal doesn't seem like he could be moved. And the
Golden State Warriors, as you read in certain parts of
the Internet, including the Athletic, the Golden State Warriors had
Zach Levine as one of their targets. He's off the table.
He's now in Sacramento reunited with DeMar de Rosen. It
didn't work in Chicago, but maybe now that they're older,
it'll work at Sacramento. I don't know, but Kevin Durant's
(02:23):
name is starting to emerge as potential. Would he go
back to Golden State now? Jake Fisher, who's been on
this podcast, he used to be a Bleacher Report.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
He now works with Mark Stein.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They are saying it's unclear if Durant would be open
to going back to Golden State, whether the Suns.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know, whether they would even do something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They do want Jimmy Butler, but it doesn't seem like
they can get off a bill, and Butler has come
out and said, I'm not going to sign an extension
in Golden State. My guess is he doesn't think Curry's
going to be long for the Warriors, and all of
a sudden, you've got the February sixth trade deadline looming.
Rob g Listen Man Kevin Durant, I don't know if
(03:08):
we can call him friend of the show, frenemy of
the show.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I mean Kevin Durant, who knows the wind blows a
different direction and he's feeling strong vibes that way, But
I don't know. I'm gonna go ahead and say I
don't see Kevin Durant going back to Golden State. I
know he's big with narratives and he's big with like
where people how they view him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do you think he wants to go back to the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's not like him and Draymond, to the best of
my knowledge, ever patch things up. Draymond treated him like garbage.
Draymond apparently as a changed person. He tried to bury
the hatchet with Jordan Poole recently with the always great Hey,
I sucker punched you, but can we get over it?
That was a few years ago that I'm sure that's
gonna go over real well.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't even know if the Warriors would have enough
to secure KD. Because if you're assuming Butler goes from
Miami to Phoenix, KD goes Phoenix to the Warriors. What
goes to Miami? Because Golden said, what you're getting excited
(04:15):
about Kuminga and pods And I mean, you don't want TJD.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You got Bamaebayo.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like, I don't know, do the Heat want anything? Are
there enough good picks to go around. I don't know
rob any early thoughts on KD going back to Golden
State potentially.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, my first thought is shout out to me and
you for being ahead of the curve on this one.
People who listened to the Weekend Pod last week, we
were talking about friend of the Show Brian Windhorse floating
out this idea that hey, somebody could get moved there's
a big fish that you know potentially. Now, we didn't
know it was gonna be Luca Donche. Honestly, I don't
think Wendy eve knew it was gonna be Luka Dne.
(04:51):
But we started to speculate, Okay, well, who could it
possibly be that's gonna, you know, really shake up the
fabric of the NBA, And you floated out Durant. And
the reason was, and this is something we talked about
in the last week's pot We're gonna reach it a
little bit, was Bradley Beal holds all the cards in
this situation, fowl or fair like, that's the situation. Because
(05:13):
he has the no trade clause, he can dictate, Hey,
I don't want to go here, I don't want to
go there. I don't want to go there, and his
agent on more than one occasion has come out and
said he will not be signing off on a trade
to la not to one in Chicago, not to want
to like he listed teams, and I've never seen that
happen before. I've never seen an agent preemptively come out
(05:34):
and say we are not going to wave our no
trade clause for this city. And the reporting over the
weekend was if Bradley Beal were to wave his trade clause,
he would have to be to a warm weather city
and a team that is ready to compete for a championship.
If you're gonna go process of elimination, that really only
(05:55):
leaves the West Coast, which you know, the Lakers don't
have anything to trade for him.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The Clippers are not going to trade for him.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I don't think Golden State would, and the Texas teams
and Miami, well, Miami, according to the athletic is like,
we don't want.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Bradley Beal, point blank, period.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't care what.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It costs, we do not want him. And this is
what we talked about on Friday. If you can't trade
Bradley Beal, the Phoenix Suns, who are the definition of
mediocrity with this Big three if you can call him
that have one of two options. Number one, you trade
Devin Booker, which they're not going to do. He's younger,
he's a homegrown guy. Or you entertain trading Kevin Durant
(06:33):
because you are so deep in the hole financially with
this new second April number one, and you have no
draft picks, so you have to find a way to
either get other players that can step in two three
guys that can fill the KD Booker Beal role, or
you got to get so many picks that wants this
Beal Booker thing kind of flames out because we know
(06:55):
it's not going to be a championship. You can replenish
the cupboard some way, some four. And as great as
KD is, I don't see him wanting to go back
to Golden even if they did agree to the terms,
I don't see KD just saying yes, you agreed to it.
It's gonna be Kaminga and Wiggins and two First, nah,
(07:16):
I'm good. And I think Phoenix, even though he doesn't
have a no trade cross like Beal, would have to
just accept, Hey, we don't want to do this guy
dirty like that because he's been nothing but a good
soldier for us since he's gotten here.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah. No, this is a tough one.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's very difficult to pinpoint how this would go down.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
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Speaker 3 (07:47):
Let me enter a late name into the mix. Okay,
I have not heard his name bandied about now. However,
last summer he was, you know, perhaps gonna be on
the Lakers lineup or a roster. So the Atlanta Hawks
recently lost. I would argue their foundational piece, Jalen Johnson,
(08:08):
the kid you guys remember him. He was a Duke
and then he kind of decided he was like a
five star or whatever. The high McDonald's alomara. He was
like one of the best players in his class, goes
to Duke. I think this was a COVID year, maybe
twenty one, and then Duke was just not good and
he ends up like walking out on the team and
everybody labeled him a quitter. Meanwhile, this guy's ridiculously talented,
(08:29):
but he had that label, so he fell a little
bit in the draft.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Jalen Johnson is a young guy.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
He's he had been averaging eighteen ten and five this season,
and he just looks like a like a major stud.
I'm trying to find his age. He is twenty three
years old. Okay, he's done for the season. Since he's
been out, they have started to crater a little bit
in Atlanta, Rob, I don't know if you can see
where I'm going with this. They are currently ninth in
(08:57):
the East. We'll see what happens with the bull after
they unload Levine. The Sixers are probably gonna end up
passing the Hawks once guys start coming back. The Raptors
kind of stink. But there's a world, Rob where the
Hawks can say, hey, we lost Johnson, He'll be back
next year. He's our guy. We like DeAndre Hunter, you know.
(09:18):
We like Dyson Daniels, who is a ridiculous defender. He's
starting to show some things. We got the young kid,
Resa Scha Clint Capella. We could move him. Is there
a world where the Atlanta Hawks say, what if we
moved off Trey Young, got off Trey Young, send him
to Miami and we decide we're gonna tank.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think now.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I don't know if Trey Young fits rob Gie's favorite
line hashtag heat culture, because he's like undersized and doesn't
really defend a lot and a defensive back cooard of
Trey Young and Tyler Hero ain't stopping much. But I'm
just gonna float the name Trey Young out there. It's
tough right now because point guards, even Deer and Fox,
rob this is a who put up awesome numbers, and
(10:01):
then you look at You're like, oh, he's been to
the playoffs once, it hasn't even won a round.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know, he can't be your best player? Could he
be your second best? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Trey Young was the Hawk's best. They got to a
conference finals. Now things broke their way, remember they took
down the Sixers. I don't know, Rob, I gotta ask
Trey Young. I don't know if like people are kind
of off him now, but I think he leads the
league in assists. Maybe as he matures he becomes a
passable defender.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know, But can you see a.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Guy like Trey Young and the Hawks deciding, yeah, it's
not for us, Let's see if we can get Trey
Young to Miami or something.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
In the next year or so. Absolutely because and I
think this is honestly unfair to Trey Young, but the
narrative at this point precedes him. There is absolutely nothing
he can do save growing two inches and adding thirty pounds.
They're gonna make people think that he can be a
passable defender in the NBA. Guy, you know, not count
the fact that he averages something like twenty five and
twelve as an undersized point guard. Like, he's never gonna
(10:59):
get a appreciate it for what he does there, because
the narrative is always going to be, well, he's the
worst defender in the NBA and you got to too
many things to make it work. What's funny about the
Miami Heat situation, though, is, as it was reported, the
reason why they don't want Bradley beal aside from the
no trade clause, is that they want to have their
books clean for twenty six and twenty seven. If we
(11:22):
assume that Luka Doncic is off the board and he's
with the Lakers, you know, it's Jokic, who I don't
think is ever going to leave Denver, it's Yannis, and
it's Trey Young. So if the goal was to have
cap space for those summers. Why wouldn't you be proactive
(11:42):
and go and get him, you know what I mean? Like,
I know heat culture is a thing, and you know,
like you said, he probably doesn't fit that mold because
he's not a gritty kind of a player. But at
this point, like what do you have to lose if
you're Miami your roster as even though I know they've
made the finals, what two years of the last five
or six, there's nobody who's ever talking about the Heat
(12:04):
coming into a season as a championship contender, because you know,
once you get beyond Bam Hero for now, Jimmy Butler,
it's like what else do you have? It's guys. It's
guys that they find and fit and they work there
in Miami and for whatever reason, they don't work anywhere else.
Shout out Kendrick Nunn, Gabe Vincent, was it Tyler Johnson?
(12:25):
Like there's a long list of guys who work had
to working with. So at some point you just need
a talent infusion. And if you can get Trey Young
for the cheap and maybe not as cheap as you
know what danon Fox went for, I don't see why
you wouldn't make a move like that, or try to
at least.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The only other name I could come up with is
a young kid in Detroit, Jayden Ivy went to Purdue.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Kid Cunningham has been a revelation. I don't, I don't.
Did he get named to an All Star team or
was he the biggest?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yes? I mean I went to the Lakers Pistons game
and I just watched him. I mean, he's a stut.
That guy can play, he can go, and I you know,
Ivy needs the ball in his hands. He's having an
awesome year's shooting forty percent from three. I would consider
selling high on Jade and Ivy and getting, you know, a.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Little more maturity. The Pistons could be a plucky team
in the first round.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm not saying they're taking down the Calves or anything crazy,
but I do think they will be a bit of
a tougher out against one of those medium teams beyond the.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Like like the Bucks. They could push the Bucks for
a couple of games.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
The Bucks aren't very good, right, but it could even
be a five game series.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But every game is close, so something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, they're like, oh there's something here. It's time to
level up so you can move off Jae n Ivy.
But I don't know, like what that's the problem? Rong
these guards. This is gonna sound so dumb, but like
our men's league basketball team, it's easy to find guards, right,
there's a million, But it's tough to give me a
six four to six five guy. You know in a
men's league, that's a big guy. You know you five
(13:52):
six to seven. Oh, that's a home run. But it's
there's just so many guards. It's like what am I
doing with Jay and not? Is he better than Tyler Hero?
Tyler Hero looks like a study, you know, and I
just I don't know that a lot of it's weird.
I love Jimmy Butler, but Rob does it? Do you
get a sense that his market is starting to shrink?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, he's kind of made it so that his market
is only Phoenix. And the problem is unless they can
figure out Bradley Beal, Like, I don't think it's gonna happen,
my guy. To your point about the point guards, I'm
looking at the NBA standings right now as we're recording,
and say what you want about the guy, But let
me just read the list of point guards in the
Eastern Conference, Donovan Mitchell, what is it? Drew Holliday, but
(14:31):
I guess they don't really have a point guard. Jalen Brunson,
Tyreus Halliburt and Damian Lillard. I get Tyler hero I
technically is their point guard there? Cad Cunningham. They don't
have a point guard in Orlando. That's one Trey Young.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Wait a minute, Jalen Suggs, Is he.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Really a point guard?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Though?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You know, I like him more than he's great.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
The right, Kobe White, Tyrese Maxey. I don't know about
Toronto DiAngelo former All Star DeAngelo Russell in Brooklyn, LaMelo Ball,
Jordan Poole. Like, there's what two teams where you say, man,
their point guard situation is rough. So twelve of the
fourteen or thirteen of the fifteen have a quality you
(15:14):
would say. Point guard is the deepest position in the league.
And it kind of makes it so that the market
is kind of suppressed with cause it's interchangeable.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
At this point.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
It's like an NFL running back. You can find a
scoring guard damn near anywhere if you look, if you
want one. DJ McCollum exactly, Cam Thomas Cam Thomas gets
you buckets somewhere in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, it's it's really toughest guard market.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know. What
what do you do with bial? What do the Warriors do?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And this idea to just sit it out to me
reeks of like punting on the season, and that's just
Steph Curry's thirty six guys.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, you want to punt on this? Really? Is
that what we're doing? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's NBA could end up getting very crazy this week.
I mean I don't think that there would be any movement,
but like, what about a guy like Zion Williamson, Rob
I don't even know what to make of.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The Pelicans are so rotten.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
They have twelve wins, they are firmly in the Cooper
Flag sweepstakes. Everybody seems to be hurt. I mentioned Team
C Jim McCollums. So I just looked at their their
roster and you know, Trey Murphy is lighting. He's been
awesome for that relation, Yeah, but he's putting up hollow
points on a bad team.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Or is he Kevin Love?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Remember Kevin Love on Minnesota never made the I don't
think ever made the playoffs, but he's putting him like
twenty five and twelve.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It was like, oh, Kevin Love got to get on it.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
And then he goes and he was kind of like
not great in Cleveland, and somebody had to be the
fall guy, you know, when you're the number three guy
with Lebron. But if I'm one of these teams like
de Jonta Murray now out for the season with an achilles,
it's like, what are we doing.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let's just start selling guys like brandon Ingram. What's the
market for brandon Ingram?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
That's that's a good question because on an inspiring contract,
he's a former I think he might have been All
NBA or on the borderline All NBA one year. Yeah,
he's been an All Star. He's smack in the middle
of his prime. You would think that we could, yes,
think the market for brandon Ingram will be much hotter
than what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But again, this in CJ.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
McCollum's you know NBA, where they've made it so prohibitive
to get big contract players that are not all world like.
That's the problem because according to all the reports that
Clutch Sports and brandon Ingram want Max money and bro
if you I mean, if you're a team like De
Troy where you're only paying you know, you have Kid
(17:35):
Cunningham and other guys like that would have make sense.
But then do you really want to go into your
future with Brandon Ingram as your number two? You probably
like him as a number three somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But maybebe you're a playing team if he's your number two.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
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Speaker 3 (18:01):
We could wrap up here real quick because the NBA
wasn't crazy enough. The NFL got some trade news early
Monday morning. Miles Garrett has said I would like to
be traded. Allegedly the Cleveland Browns are saying thank you
for that update, but it's not happening. I don't necessarily
believe that, Rob. I do think there's going to be
a market for Garrett. And again, I'm one of these guys.
(18:23):
If it ain't working, just start over, tear it down,
and I've got some teams here for Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
First of all, he's still in his prime. He's still elite.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
That being said, I don't know how much more of
his prime he'll have. I know, defensive ends like Von
Miller and these guys have had some extended careers. But again,
Miles Garrett has I mean the wear and tear on
his body. Dude, I mean, he's played a lot of football.
He is twenty nine, he'll be thirty next December. I'll
(18:55):
just be clear right now. I don't think you're getting
two number ones for Miles Garrett. I just don't think
that's happening. I just I don't see that. That being said,
if you're Washington, okay, do you say, hey, we got
the twenty ninth pick. Our defense sucks, we could use
some leadership. Dan Quinn's a defensive guy. Why don't we
just give up our first round pick? And then, I
(19:17):
don't know, whatever else you you know that isn't related
to Jaydon Daniels or the team's success.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Let's just give that up. What it Browns, What do
you guys need?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And you move on.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Remember they whiffed on Chase Chase Young from Ohio State
and thought he would be a Miles Garrett and he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I don't see why Washington says, hey, we're paying our
quarterback nothing. Let's go get Miles Garrett. We need to go.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
We need to go chase quarterbacks. And we just got
run over by Saquon. If I'm Washington, I'm all in.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Are you not? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I mean once I saw the news, because the news
broke while I was flying to the Super Bowl. And
I don't know if he knows nowadays J Mack, but
the TVs get live television now, some of them.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Some of the air like they.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Don't have it on Southwest when I fly, you know,
to Vegas, but Delta shout out to them. I was
able to watch the news breaking as it happened that
he had requested the trade. Oh and the first team
I thought of was Washington, not just because they have
the young quarterback on the rookie deal, but because if
you look at their cap space for twenty twenty five,
the top five teams cap space in order New England,
(20:18):
which you know, I like Drake May, but I don't
think Miles Garrett is gonna say I can win immediately
with Drake May the Raiders. It'd be great to parent
with Max Crosbill. We don't have a quarterback Washington, Chicago
Chargers Chicago.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, that's not bad. So what about Detroit.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I mean, Detroit has the eighth most capspace, fifty six
million entering twenty twenty five. I guess the only problem
with that is if you're Detroit is your window is
two years. Max, I think, well, I think the window
is already shrinking. Losing both cords.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Sure, sure, but you get Hutchison and Garrett, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Them going after Miles Garrett, you have to give up
I would assume at least a one and a two
to get him, probably a one two three something something
around there. If you make that kind of move, you're
basically going full Rams that they did with the Stafford,
Aaron Donald OBJ Cooper Cup team, where it's hey, our
run is two years, and if we can't get it
(21:15):
done in two years, we're kind of fucked because we
were not going to be able to keep all these
guys anymore. And you know, Minnesota has cap space too,
but they're in the same kind of situation where because
they're gonna have to pay. I mean, if they don't
keep Donald, maybe you can do that with JJ McCarthy.
But Miles Garrett said the reason why he wants out
of Cleveland is because he wants to win his super
Bowl and he just as high as anyone might be
(21:38):
on JJ McCarthy. I don't think in year one he
makes the Vikings a super Bowl team, you know, So
that's a that's an.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Interesting situation, probably tough.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I will say, though, this this whole Miles Garrett thing,
it feels like the what is it, the the final remnants,
the last insult of the Deshaun Watson contract, because before
they had Watson, when it was Baker Mayfield, they were
building something. You might say Baker had a get a
cap and he wasn't able to get never going to
be reaching that ceiling. But once they gave up everything
(22:11):
they gave up for Watson plus the contract, they they
can't move off of him. Yeah, realistically, so you're trapped.
So it cost you what the prime years of Nick Chubb,
if you want to it probably cost getting hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But they had Odell, they had jervis Land. Yeah, they
had it. They pieces. I think they beat.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Pittsburgh in a playoff game, and I don't remember what
happened in their next seat was it did they lose
to the Chiefs?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They lost to the Chips.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Mahomes got the concussion, remember, and they had like a chance,
but I guess Baker could not deliver on her drugs.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Chad Henny, Chad Henny came up clutch for Casey.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Chad Henny clutched up. That's right, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And so they were right there, and then once they
make the move for Deshaun Watson, it's like everything fell
apart so quickly and now you're this is like the
last bill that has to be paid where it's gonna
cost you. Arguably the best play to come through there
since Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Big swing. It was a big swing for Watson. At
the time, I liked it. I did.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
They were desperate Watson, but that was when he was good,
and we didn't know that he was creepy.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We didn't know he was full on creepy.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
We were like, there were rumblings of it, but it
wasn't what it is now. It's like justin Tucker level stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now, well, we didn't know. We didn't know.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
We didn't know that he needed to get the he
needed to be a predator basically to be a good
football player.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh allegedly, but it's not a terrible take. Yeah, I'm
glad you went there on me. Anyways.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
All right, fun stuff listen. NBA is gonna be chaotic
this week. Super Bowl bets are coming later in the week.
We got a good interview with an author that you
guys are like. But that's it for today.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We'll talk to you tomorrow. See then,
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