June 13, 2025 • 31 mins
On today’s episode, Jason hits us with a quick breakdown of his Best Bets for Friday night's Gam3 4 of the NBA Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers. Later, CBS Sports HQ and NBC Sports Boston analyst Claudia Bellofatto swings by to discuss how she broke into the sports betting media space, why it's easier to find an edge wagering on niche sports like lacrosse and power slapping, her expectations for Bill Belichick in his first year coaching at North Carolina, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up, Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Street Lawyer
for Friday, June the thirteenth, Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Are you excited? Are you scared?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Remember when that was a thing back when we were kids.
We have a great podcast today because we have a
new guest. She's kind of a big deal in the
gambling space. I had never spoken to her before. We
were friends on the internet, but who isn't and Claudia
Bello Fato. She's from Boston. Let's not hold that against her.
But she did go to Syracuse, which is, you know,
very impressive. And I think you're just gonna like her story,
(00:47):
very interesting fast or what do I call a rising star?
I mean that's usually the kiss of death in sports
media if you get called a rising star. Within a
year or two, you get like a big head and
you're out of a job. But she's got some interesting
stuff that she brings to the table, and I think
you're gonna like the interview.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'll just jump right into it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But also I do want to quickly drop a and
this is a reluctant best bet for Game four of
Pacers Thunder and guys, I'm rocking with the Pacers again.
I'm reluctant to go money line, but I'm gonna do
it anyway. I think I saw the stat the Thunder
having lost back to back games in like four months,
(01:26):
some insane number. But if the Pacers want to win
the series, they got to do this again. We have
to assume right that the Thunder will be ready for
everything the Pacers did in Game three. So how do
the Pacers win again? I think you certainly have to
throw the kitchen sink at SGA. And there were some
amazing numbers courtesy of some substack called F five.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
The advanced stats that now exist on the internet are crazy,
especially in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
How about this one in Game.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Three, there were sixty six possessions where someone other than
SGA initial initiated the offense, meaning Nemhart. As soon as
the ball was getting inbounded, Nemhart was in SGA's jersey,
and SGA kind of deferred and was like, hey, case on, Caruso,
you bring it up.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Those sixty six possessions were the most in any game
during the regular season or playoffs for the thunder, and
they only scored zero point nine to nine points per
possession when someone other than SGA brought it up. When
SGA usually brings it up, they're at one point two
six points per possession. So offensively, they kind of sort
of fell off a cliff and you can't get into
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your offense. SGA can't get going. Now here's the thing.
Does he overcompensate, try to do too much and get
a forty piece and they still lose? Because I'll be honest,
the Pacers aren't gonna miss as many threes as they
did in Game three. I mean the entire postseason. They've
been hot from deep. I don't expect Caruso to get
another five assists and five steals, but you can. I'm sorry,
(02:57):
not Cruzo McConnell. Sorry to confuse my pesky white cards. Gosh,
that was bad, But I certainly believe that Indiana can
ride that home wave. And we still haven't seen an
explosive Siakham game. He hasn't really gone off Haliburton.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We'll see what if he shows up.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Will j Dubb kind of recover from all those misfree throws?
Chet getting pushed around, admitting he wasn't really strong enough.
I listen, I know it's a Friday night. The rating's
not gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't care. I care about good basketball.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I will take the six and I will take
Pacers money line smaller than I did in Game three.
But man, if Indiana goes up three to one, here's
the thing. I think that's their only way to win.
They're not gonna win the series of his two two
with two of the final three, and oka see that
being said. Even at three to one, I don't think
they're a lock. And frankly that could be a by
opportunity on OKC at plus money. But listen, nobody wants
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to respect the Pacers. Did you guys know they have
not trailed in a series in the postseason?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Milwaukee, Cleveland, and New York have not trailed in a
series yet.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That's found.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Anyways, all right, without further ado, let's get to our
guest gambling analysts who can do much more, Claudia Bello Fato.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know, Jason likes to think he knows everything when
it comes to sports.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I know what sports fans want.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But for everything he doesn't he knows a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who does let's just say I know a guy who
knows a guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
All right, let's welcome into straight fire.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Somebody brand New never spoken to her before, but she's
kind of a big deal in sports media, specifically gambling
from Boston.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Claudia Bello Fato a great Italian name.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Claudia, How you doing, I'm good, Jason.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
You gotta stop with the Boston hate. Okay, I don't
like New York either, but I don't throw any I
can if I want to.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So Claudia was like, I could do the podcast. This
was the last week, and then she's like, oh wait,
I've got to do this David Ortiz event. She's like
a huge deal in the Boston area. I don't really
know much about your It's weird. Obviously you're on social media.
Everybody is, but like, there isn't a lot about you
out there. I just want to know what would what
like got you into sports media?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Like what's your origin story if you will with getting
to where you are today?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I mean to be honest, Jason, I grew up with
all girls in the house. I have a little brother,
but he came a while after us, and we grew
up playing sports, watching sports. My sisters were big tomboys,
and I always liked being on camera. There's videos of
me when I was way younger pretending to be a
news reporter, you know, on my dad's video camera. So
my mom had the idea. When I was applying to colleges.
(05:38):
I wanted to become a nurse because I wanted to
help people and do something good for the world. And
now I report on sports for a living, but you know,
maybe it helps some people. But my mom said, I
think you'd be really good doing some sort of journalism.
So I applied to New House. I got into New House.
My parents said, you don't have a choice. I wanted
to go to you Miami. I was like, I want
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to go somewhere where it's warm because I grew up
in New England and I hate the snow. When I
hate the cold. Got into New holl So I went
to school in upstate Central New York. Obviously an amazing
program there and such a good network and people who
I work with. Now you know Drew Carter, the voice
of the Celtics. Now, he was one of my best
friends in school. It was me him and then I
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and Eagles son Noah, so US three were in the
class and then we all graduate. Noah's the voice of
the Clippers. Drew, you know, already on Sports Center a
few years and he's working the Celtics gig. And I
think my big question was how can I sort of
find my niche in this industry because everybody wants to
be a sideline reporter coming out of college, everybody wants
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to be on ESPN Sports Center. So I figured I
had to get my feet wet. And the first gig
out of school was minor league baseball, Baby short Day,
you know, short season single A baseball and Upstate New
York and we were the worst team in baseball. But
I loved it still. You know long days. Was sweat
my butt off every single day, extra innings, and I realized,
(07:04):
if I still love this, it's probably my path. And
you know, long story short got into news because COVID
hit and I didn't have a choice. My first gig
was out in Gainesville. I was excited to cover the Gators.
COVID hit, so every day I was covering COVID deaths,
and you know, political election was around there, so it
was not what I wanted. I knew my passion was
(07:26):
back in sports, so gambling fell on my lap, fantasy
and gambling because everybody now the you know, the market
was super saturated. Everybody was looking for a sports gig
because sports had gone away, and I fell in love
with fantasy. I fell in love with gambling. I found
people online who knew what they were talking about, asked
them questions, and before you know it, I was working
(07:47):
for some small online shows and then Vegas calls me up.
MLB Network calls me up. I worked from LB Network
for four years. I moved up to Vegas, worked for
a sports book, and then Boston, where I've run, called
me up and said, hey, we want to launch a
betting show, and so I came. We launched the first
betting show in mass and now CPS Sports NBC Boston,
(08:07):
and sort of took a role from there. But everything,
you know, betting and fantasy wise was because I was.
I was in a weird situation, but I'm so glad
I took that up.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So was that Boston show with Sammy p Binny Chance, Yeah,
That's when I first saw Sorry, Yeah, so he was
doing stuff digitally at Fox and they kind of wrote
me in and that's how I met him. And then
he's like, oh, I'm doing stuff in Boston. And then
I watched and I was with it was with you
and him and I think one other person.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And I was just like wow.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So Boston, I'm assuming is a big gambling hub, you know,
Northeast gambling. And I'm just curious, like how, like how
did that go at the beginning because people are I
don't want to use the word losory, but if you
give out picks on air, they how did you miss that?
You're an idiot?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know, like how did that go?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because that's different from news and like minor league baseball.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, it's definitely. You got to have thick skin. And
I'm grateful that I'm from. I think we could call
it all the East Coast, but Boston's in particular because
we call them massholes. People you are not nice even
if you get if you go five and two, they're
only going to talk about, you know, the two losses
that you had. And I think I just knew that
going into it. I'm really data driven and I make
(09:26):
sure that everything I say is backed up by facts,
and you know, I'll watch the game and I'll I'll
give my opinion on something, but if I can find
a number that supports it, I'm going to do that.
So I know, if somebody says, you know, how did
you miss that, I'm not pulling these picks out of
thin air. People. You know, I'm watching the games, I'm
watching the tabe, I'm looking at the numbers. So I
think it was just that mindset I had going into it.
(09:47):
That was a dream job for me to you know,
land ness in at the age that I did just
a few years into doing TV. So I was just
grateful for the opportunity. And you know, as I say,
put your head down it and push forward, and no,
the massholes are always going to be there.
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Speaker 2 (10:14):
Obviously, you got to be pretty smart in high school
to get into Syracuse. So I'm assuming when you say
analytically driven, like you've seen some of your competition quotes
in air quotes in the industry, right and like not
everybody's shall we say, you know, dat had driven and
went to a good school and is that smart?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
At what point are you starting to like see like,
are the girls friendly to you in this space?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, I will say in terms of being friendly to
each other, I think for the most part in my experience,
we are. We're all supportive. It is tough though sometimes
when you see it's the age of social media. I
don't really you know, blame the girls out there who
we're getting thousands of dollars through social media and all
this insane engagement because maybe they're you know, addressed a
(11:05):
certain way, or they started doing something that people like,
and you know, they're.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Just go ahead continue.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, I'm not going to go to you.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'm not going to go We had one of those
on the show and you know, she explained it well,
and I she's.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Taking advantage of the market right like as you should
in my position, and I'm all, you know, I support
those women. I think that it's great, do your thing
if that's your brand. But my brand really has always
been data driven, and I'm very me. The way I'm
talking to you now, the way I talk to people
out at the bar we're talking about sports, That's how
(11:40):
I'm going to be on TV. You know, and so
that's just my brand, and I think all the power
to them. But sure it's frustrating sometimes when you see
people get gigs over yours and and you think, like, man,
I feel like that would have been a better fit
for me. But that's just how this industry goes. You
know that, just as well as I do in anybody else.
Sometimes maybe the high ups do know it's a better
(12:01):
fit for one person over the other. But again, I'll
never really change my brand. I get that push sometimes
from agents and managers.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh really, you should try this.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
On social media, you should do this, And I'm like,
I really respect and appreciate your opinion, but I'm probably
just gonna keep doing what I do.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, what did your friends and family say when you're like, oh,
I'm on a show talking about sports gambling?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
What are they like? What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Like?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
My Italian uncles, one of my Italian uncles came up
with my grandmother's funeral actually, and he pulled out a
lot of cash and he goes, so will we betting tonight? Wow?
He's like, you know you got this from me, right?
I was like, I actually didn't really know where I
got it because my parents never a bet in their life.
But apparently my uncle did it pretty heapily, so he
loved it all. My exten family loved it. My parents
(12:45):
at first were definitely concerned if we just paid and thanks,
mom and dad, you paid for my whole college. Love
you for that. They paid how much money to send
you to the New House and now you're going to
do betting for a living. But I think once they
saw it grow and they saw me, you know, on Nessen,
the Red Sox and the Bruins covering these teams we
all grew up watching, they could tell their friends to
(13:07):
go watch me on TV. I think they understood why
I took that path. But dadnybody like New House won't
ask me to come speak on a panel, but the
last Drew and the last Noah because they're covering the
Celtics and the Clippers, And that's fine. But I do
get a lot of college students reaching out saying betting
seems like a really cool path to take if I
(13:27):
don't want to do traditional sports, and I'm so happy
to talk to them about that both. I've actually had
a lot of women, Yeah, I've had a lot of
women to reach out, and you know, I'm speaking on
a panel in Chicago in a few weeks to talk
about betting specific but just women in sports and sort
of my angle on it. And I try to take
those calls and talk to those women and girls they're young,
(13:50):
you know, as much as possible because it could be
a really daunting two men and women. I think industry
TV is but betting specific because it is really male
dominated it And a lot of people will still ask
me to the stay. I've been doing betting for what
six seven years? Like, so who feeds you all that information?
Really all the time, Jason, it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, let me ask what was the Vegas experience?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Like everybody who's listening, I know, Hey, I can handle
three four days in Vegas a week, absolute max.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You said forty years.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So I've been doing betting for you? Oh yeah, basically
since I graduated because it was a year out I
started in it. Vegas was a short stint, but I
had never lived I had never even visited before it
moved out there.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Wait, you never went to Vegas like in college or
twenty one or anything.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Oh wow, Okay, So I got the call and my
agent's like, hey, they want you out in Vegas and
I packed my stuff up in a week and I
just moved up to Vegas for the first time. Didn't
know anybody, nothing, and you know, I loved it. I
lived by the mountains and it's not like I was
on the strip.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh you were, what was it?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oh yeah, yeah that okay summer. That's a nice, nice area.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Someone's awesome. I mean it was hot as hell, but
I had a pool and stuff. But it's funny because
when you tell people you move to Vegas, they're assuming you're,
you know, living on the street. Yeah, but my studio
was in the wind Casino, so I'd walk in this
is my first ever experience on Vegas, and every morning
i'd walk in like eight am for my show and
people are still at the poker tables or maybe just
(15:23):
arrive at the poker tables, slugging back drinks. And I'm like, wow,
Vegas really is what Vegas looks like in the movies.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It wasn't a long time I was out there, but
I think it was enough for me.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So like, what happened? Yet?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
They had you doing a show like talking NFL baseball
and all that fun stuff everything.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think That's what's been really good for
me and betting is that I've been able to just
cover all of the sports. I always thought I wanted
to be a team reporter, but when I went out
in Vegas, they basically asked me obviously, you know, hockey
was big out there with the Knights, but UFC was
really big. So I dug into UFC pretty often with
them all of the main sports and little f one WNBA.
(16:04):
So really, yeah, with that show with the media, and
I think you're probably seeing this with a lot of
the sports book is sports books is. We knew it
was gonna consolidate at some point because everyone's trying to
copy each other and not everybody has the same reach.
So I saw that pretty early with wind bet the
company I was working for. They're like, hey, we have
the school studio, We're going to try these shows, and
(16:25):
we have all of these ideas, but it was so
many things going on at once, and I'm like, you
guys should probably focus on your app right like before
we go into pushing this and and I think that's
the problem I face everywhere. But yeah, so I guess
that was the first sort of daily I show, daily
show I had because I had been working for MLB
Network for a year or so, but that was, you know,
(16:46):
a few spots a week, so that was the first
time I was digging into everything. We had a lot
of cool guests come on the show, and it was
in Vegas. People could walk by it and listen and watch.
It was the Blue Wires Studio.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know, I remember, yeah, yeah it I've never
seen it, but let me Yeah. So, so it sounds
like they're They're not just saying, hey, NFL, NBA gambling,
we want you to do hockey with Belmont stakes.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
We want you to and you were You're good with that? Huh.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah. I don't know if it's because, you know, growing up,
I played I played basketball year round. I picked up
soccer because my friends played. It was terrible, but it
was a social thing for me. I picked up lacrosse
just because you know, A Graham was trying that. I
loved learning to play new sports, and then as I
got older, I just liked learning sports that people didn't
really know much about. And maybe that goes back to
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me just wanting to help people. I don't know that's
what I tell myself, but I've found that's fun. You know.
I started working with this company next Bets over the
last few months, and they focused solely on you know,
the out of the box sports, so it's f one.
I did a lot of Supercross. I went to my
first supercross event. They do you know, the slapping the
pro slapping leagues.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Wait, wait, hold on super Supercross is not motorcycles.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh that's motocross motocross.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, so supercross is it's AMA Monster Energy Supercross. Basically,
it's like the Big One, but it's all under undermot cross. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So what people are betting on? Guy in the slap fights?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah yeah, I actually haven't done that yet, but they
asked if I want. I'm like, yeah, sure, because I
like to learn. It's fun, right.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But so those are the sports though, where people could
take a dive easily because there's not that much They're
not getting paid that much.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Right Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I can't believe you're betting on That's insane. I didn't
even know that was like a real sport.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Is that on TV?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh yeah, I think so that's where there's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
There's money there though with betting. I mean that responsibly people, but.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You know, that Claudia.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The people betting on that are like total degenerates, like
you know, living in like a hoarders set up with
no money and they're betting on that deerator. No I'm not,
but those people are listening for you for those Yeah, no, no,
that's well.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I will say though, with the sports that not everybody's betting,
as you know, that's a softer market like the WNBA WNBA. Yeah,
I'm getting great lines on these player props, even on
the side sometimes because they're not betting it like.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
This, Wait, are you betting WNBA nightly?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Not nightly? But when I go on CBS, They'll have
me come on it and give some plays and I'm like, yeah, sprinkle,
so I think I swept or I missed like one
the other week I gave out four or five plays
And it's not like I'm betting the w every day.
But again, it's a soft market. I'm capping it just
like I would with the NBA sports. I know.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, it's just know you're right, I mean that's what
people could find Soccer. You could find a bigger edge
there for sure. It's just not as sexy as Hey.
Let's talk about the Patriots, you know, in their wind
total or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Doing all that too. It's just I have you know,
I do lacrosse. I worked with PLL for two years
as well. So I don't know. It's fun because it's
been a challenge for me and I'm reaching different types
of audiences and then if somebody does need an expert,
you know, I dive into these things. It's not like
I'm just reading articles and picking stuff out. I'm trying
to really learn the sport. And I don't know, it's
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been fun for me. Maybe I'm maybe I'm not helping
the degenerates out there. If they're vetting the power slap.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Competition, it's fuck creepy.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So obviously, you know, you got the loser guys in
the sewer who are gambling all the time and then
hate the fact that you and I are on TV
talking about gambling, so they come after me all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I block them. I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But Claudia, I know some women who have talked to
gambling and they've when these guys come after them, they
like kind of melt down a little bit because it's
it's a little tougher when a lot of people are
coming after you online. Like, I personally don't care. I've
got you know, family, None of this stuff bothers me.
But I know some women who have like struggled with it.
How are you handling all that stuff when these you
(20:49):
know goons come after you?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, you know. I when I had my show at
NSSEN and when I was with them Albean at work,
I had an Excel spread worksheets, so I would try
called my bets, I'd show you, you know, my unit
size and everything. So I was really transparent with it.
So if anybody ever called me out, you know, she's
not telling the truth or this or that. I'm like, hey,
go check my excels or at worksheet. I don't really
care what you think. This is what it is, right.
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And when they do come at me for stupid little things,
thankfully I haven't had much you know, targeting my knowledge
or targeting if I know what I'm talking about or not.
They'll say something about my looks or just the fact
that I'm a woman in general, or that somebody's feeding
me all of this information because there's no way I
would know all of it. So in my mind I'm
just like, oh, thank you, like, oh, you think just
(21:34):
because I'm a you know, a girl, that I don't
know this, and you think I'm not smart enough to
know all the things that I know. So I try
to frame it that way. But like you said, you
have a family, you have all these things. I'm, you know,
a single twenty nine year old who was freelancing. So
I'm waiting on all those gigs. So if I do
do a show and I go on social media and
(21:55):
somebody says something after, I feel like I did great
or maybe I didn't, and that's in my head and
I see somebody make a comment, then it definitely weighs
on me.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I no, no for sure, yeah no, no,
you know, I think that's just part of the game.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But that's the reality.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Like we've had a lot of gambling people on your
Felika Adam Turnoff.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm sure you know all these guys. Yeah, but ultimately
it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like you just not You got to not give a
shit when these guys come after you. The only difference is,
you know, like I do know, you know, single people
go back to their house and then at night they're
just on their phone scrolling and all it is is
just a torrent of anger and and some people don't
handle that well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So I'm guessing you're not.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Now, you obviously have a good Instagram, but are you
on social media a lot?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like are you doing TikTok YouTube? While this crap?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You know? I again from agents and managers, I've gotten
a lot that I'm not active enough. And it's because Jason.
If I wasn't in this industry, I don't know if
I'd have any social media. I think it's such a distraction.
Like when I look at my hours when I have
to I have to be on my phone all day,
I shoot and I edit videos as in freelancing, So
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I'm on my phone all day and I'll go over
and I'll scroll on Instagram, and all it is is
us looking at people who look as though they're doing
better than us, right, And I'll look at women in
my field and I'm like, damn, how did they get
that job? Or you know, I'm happy they got that job.
I wish I could have got that job. Or this
person's getting married, this person's pregnant. I'm still here, you know, freelancing,
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doing shows in my house, and I think it just
forces comparison that we never. I've always had it. My
parents never had it and they were so happy growing up.
And I think because of my industry, it's really it's
unhealthy in my mind. So like I tried the TikTok
and then you don't get enough views and it doesn't
make sense because I have the followers, the views aren't there,
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and then you have to try and nail down the algorithm, and.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It's like it's a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Go outside, people like, go outside and experience the world.
And so I'll post and then I just get off,
Like I try not to scoll because it's just mind
numbing and usually don't feel great, right if you spend
a few you never feel good after scrolling on Instagram
or TikTok.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Ever, So what do you do?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Oh man, I'm busy. I'm busy. I started an app
with my sister, a fitness app actually, so I'm going
through the investor process right now. It's been five years
in the making. So as I've been trying to get
into the TV industry, I was trying to build that
up and we're really happy with it. But that's NonStop.
So as they say, you know, you're five to nine
after the nine to five, but our dev teams in Pakistan,
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so really, I'm up at all hours doing that. I'm
a workout fiend, so I work out whenever I can.
I try to cook lots of friends. I've been going
NonStop for the last like three months. That's why telling
you we were supposed to do this, I'm like, sorry,
I'm in Toronto. Sorry I'm in New York. Sorry about
the works fun, but you know I'm young. I'm going
to do it now before I have a family and
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hopefully land another full time gig.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
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Speaker 2 (25:08):
So I guess we'll fast forward to NFL since everybody
loves it first, I'll start. Oh, oh, we could start
with Belichick because he was a Patriots guy. I don't
know if you saw the story that all these morons.
As soon as the Jordan Hudson stuff came out, they
decided we're gonna bet the pay the tar Heels underwin
total just because this girl is a distraction. Any thoughts,
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and again, I don't know the unc depth chart I've
seen the schedule, but we don't have lines for the
whole season, so I'm just curious your thoughts on the
Patriots and Belichick, sorry, the tar heels in Belichick.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, it's and just on the Belichick side of things.
And of course I've talked about this so much on
the Boston sports shows here, but it's so disappointing, and
they've said his family members are so sad to see that.
His legacy, of course is not being torn down by this,
but people keep saying his legacy is sort of being
tarnished because here he was like a god. And of
course there were some issues with the Brady contracts and
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all that, but one of the greatest coaches of all time,
right if he went back to the NFL, could have
broken down Schules record. That's all we really talked about
when it came to Bill and then he went to
UNC and Okay, this is cool. It's a new chapter
for him. And when's the last time we've really heard
about anything. To your point about the UNC depth chart,
half of the people don't even know the quarterback, nobody
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knows any of the receivers. All we've heard about is
his girlfriend Jordan Hudson, and I'm sure in his mind
that doesn't sit well with him either. So on the
football side of things, again, greatest coach of all time,
He's dealt with everything. Everybody keeps saying he has. He's
really going to go and sit on the couches and
recruit these players and do this and that. I don't
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know if he's going to have to beg a lot
of players. Maybe the Jordan Hudson thing we'll off put
some people. I don't know about that. Everybody's goal is
to get to the NFL. I think he knows a
few people to get you there. I think he has
the skills and it's going to bring in the staff
to help players develop. And you know, if they go
to you and see I don't think they're going to
regret it. But on the Jordan Hudson side of things, yeah,
(27:05):
it's disappointing for me because I grew up with Belichick
and Brady and and Jordan Hudson's younger than me. I
actually saw her at a club, not that I go
to clubs, but I did see her at the club
a few months ago. Really, like with Belichick, no no, no,
Belchick wasn't there Belchick was there, that would be Yeah,
she looks so young though, Jason, Well, that's.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The thing, so she's your age basically twenty four.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Come on, I give you a similar if you if
people saw both of you, they wouldn't really know the
age difference.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It would be the equivalent of one of your friends
being like, hey, Claudia, I'm dating Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
That would be a little dad.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That would be well, her.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Dad, I'm sure you've read the stories is a little
bit different, which I think kind of I don't want
to say stuff because you know, like you know anyways,
but you know what I'm talking about, Like in Boston area,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
But for me, I'm all in on the over I
think this. I think.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean again, you don't even need to know the
Jet start.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Look at the schedule.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think they're going to be favored in like at
least nine games, and there's really other than a Clemson game,
which is bookended by bys, like they should be barring
massive injury, they should be fine.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I think this is all like just misdirection.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
And you know, anytime the masses go one way, you
just go the other What about the Patriots with Drake May?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Are you as bullish as many are?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, man, I was so excited. I was really worried
about them putting him in last season just because of
our online situation. You know, his blindside was never protected,
our depth chart and left tackle in general was just awful.
Right tackle we dealt with a lot of issues as well,
and he didn't have a real receiving core. A lot
of the draft guys were sort of duds, and the
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veteran guys weren't showing up well. Our backfield sort of
fell apart as well. Ramandra Stevenson didn't step up as
he did the year prior. So the fact that he
has digs, whether or not people keep having this discussion.
You know, is he a true number one? He's a
number one when you look at what Drake May had
last season, Right, Kyle Williams, I think is going to
be a great option. You have Fraveon Henderson out of
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the backfield, who can catch passes as well, and then
they retain their two tight ends in Hooper as well
and Hunter Henry, so you have so many options for
Drake May. I always believed in Drake May's talent. I
think he has a great arm. I think he's accurate.
Of course, the legs were a huge thing. My biggest
fear and the reason I didn't want them to play
him last year was just because when he takes off running,
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he's going to have to do that too often. He's
going to get injured. Luckily he didn't, you know, knock
on wood. That doesn't happen this season. But they spent
the most money in the offseason for a reason to
get that production, to beef up the defense, which I'm
a little worried about, you know, the linebacker depth. But
I still think they'll be fine. There's really no excuse.
You look at four wins the last two seasons, there's
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really no excuse that they can't double that number. They
get at least the eight wins because of all the
pieces they run in, because the talent that Drake May has,
and I mean they were a year late on vrable,
but they finally brought him there.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So where does what do you see yourself doing? I
don't know, twenty twenty years from now, are you still
doing gambling? Are you at a network? Have you moved
on developing apps? What do you see your ideal future.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah. Yeah, hopefully my app is launched and we're actually
working with a lot of teams and you know, high
schools and trainers. I'd love to do that part of
that my passion project. But I'd love to have my
own show and sort of do something like this where
it's really laid back and we talk sports, we talk
pop culture, we do talk bitting. I've found though that
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a lot of the networks I'm talking to now are
a little hesitant because I'm seen as the betting girl
now to hire me as just a traditional reporter or
a traditional host when it's like, and you know this,
betting is just a layer of sports analytics and sports analysis, right.
I couldn't talk about all these sports in a betting
(31:03):
sense if I didn't understand them through and through. And
hopefully people will understand that as betting becomes more of
a norm. But I'd love to be part of a
show that's not just betting focused, it's everything. And I guess,
come on, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So they're not really giving you that chance because you're
pigeon holed as oh that's the betting girl.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, and it stinks because I love that people do
realize I understand the betting market well and you can
call me an expert in it. I love that because
I've worked hard for it. But that doesn't mean I
can't be a traditional reporter as well.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Right yeah, yeah, all right, Well, congrats on all your success.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Sounds like a.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Lot of things ahead. Thank you, and you know we'll
talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Awesome, Thanks Jason, appreciate it.
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up, Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Street Lawyer
for Friday, June the thirteenth, Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Are you excited? Are you scared?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Remember when that was a thing back when we were kids.
We have a great podcast today because we have a
new guest. She's kind of a big deal in the
gambling space. I had never spoken to her before. We
were friends on the internet, but who isn't and Claudia
Bello Fato. She's from Boston. Let's not hold that against her.
But she did go to Syracuse, which is, you know,
very impressive. And I think you're just gonna like her story,
(00:47):
very interesting fast or what do I call a rising star?
I mean that's usually the kiss of death in sports
media if you get called a rising star. Within a
year or two, you get like a big head and
you're out of a job. But she's got some interesting
stuff that she brings to the table, and I think
you're gonna like the interview.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'll just jump right into it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But also I do want to quickly drop a and
this is a reluctant best bet for Game four of
Pacers Thunder and guys, I'm rocking with the Pacers again.
I'm reluctant to go money line, but I'm gonna do
it anyway. I think I saw the stat the Thunder
having lost back to back games in like four months,
(01:26):
some insane number. But if the Pacers want to win
the series, they got to do this again. We have
to assume right that the Thunder will be ready for
everything the Pacers did in Game three. So how do
the Pacers win again? I think you certainly have to
throw the kitchen sink at SGA. And there were some
amazing numbers courtesy of some substack called F five.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
The advanced stats that now exist on the internet are crazy,
especially in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
How about this one in Game.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Three, there were sixty six possessions where someone other than
SGA initial initiated the offense, meaning Nemhart. As soon as
the ball was getting inbounded, Nemhart was in SGA's jersey,
and SGA kind of deferred and was like, hey, case on, Caruso,
you bring it up.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Those sixty six possessions were the most in any game
during the regular season or playoffs for the thunder, and
they only scored zero point nine to nine points per
possession when someone other than SGA brought it up. When
SGA usually brings it up, they're at one point two
six points per possession. So offensively, they kind of sort
of fell off a cliff and you can't get into
(02:36):
your offense. SGA can't get going. Now here's the thing.
Does he overcompensate, try to do too much and get
a forty piece and they still lose? Because I'll be honest,
the Pacers aren't gonna miss as many threes as they
did in Game three. I mean the entire postseason. They've
been hot from deep. I don't expect Caruso to get
another five assists and five steals, but you can. I'm sorry,
(02:57):
not Cruzo McConnell. Sorry to confuse my pesky white cards. Gosh,
that was bad, But I certainly believe that Indiana can
ride that home wave. And we still haven't seen an
explosive Siakham game. He hasn't really gone off Haliburton.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We'll see what if he shows up.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Will j Dubb kind of recover from all those misfree throws?
Chet getting pushed around, admitting he wasn't really strong enough.
I listen, I know it's a Friday night. The rating's
not gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't care. I care about good basketball.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So I will take the six and I will take
Pacers money line smaller than I did in Game three.
But man, if Indiana goes up three to one, here's
the thing. I think that's their only way to win.
They're not gonna win the series of his two two
with two of the final three, and oka see that
being said. Even at three to one, I don't think
they're a lock. And frankly that could be a by
opportunity on OKC at plus money. But listen, nobody wants
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to respect the Pacers. Did you guys know they have
not trailed in a series in the postseason?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Milwaukee, Cleveland, and New York have not trailed in a
series yet.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That's found.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Anyways, all right, without further ado, let's get to our
guest gambling analysts who can do much more, Claudia Bello Fato.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know, Jason likes to think he knows everything when
it comes to sports.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I know what sports fans want.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But for everything he doesn't he knows a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who does let's just say I know a guy who
knows a guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
All right, let's welcome into straight fire.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Somebody brand New never spoken to her before, but she's
kind of a big deal in sports media, specifically gambling
from Boston.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Claudia Bello Fato a great Italian name.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Claudia, How you doing, I'm good, Jason.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
You gotta stop with the Boston hate. Okay, I don't
like New York either, but I don't throw any I
can if I want to.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So Claudia was like, I could do the podcast. This
was the last week, and then she's like, oh wait,
I've got to do this David Ortiz event. She's like
a huge deal in the Boston area. I don't really
know much about your It's weird. Obviously you're on social media.
Everybody is, but like, there isn't a lot about you
out there. I just want to know what would what
like got you into sports media?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Like what's your origin story if you will with getting
to where you are today?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I mean to be honest, Jason, I grew up with
all girls in the house. I have a little brother,
but he came a while after us, and we grew
up playing sports, watching sports. My sisters were big tomboys,
and I always liked being on camera. There's videos of
me when I was way younger pretending to be a
news reporter, you know, on my dad's video camera. So
my mom had the idea. When I was applying to colleges.
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I wanted to become a nurse because I wanted to
help people and do something good for the world. And
now I report on sports for a living, but you know,
maybe it helps some people. But my mom said, I
think you'd be really good doing some sort of journalism.
So I applied to New House. I got into New House.
My parents said, you don't have a choice. I wanted
to go to you Miami. I was like, I want
(05:58):
to go somewhere where it's warm because I grew up
in New England and I hate the snow. When I
hate the cold. Got into New holl So I went
to school in upstate Central New York. Obviously an amazing
program there and such a good network and people who
I work with. Now you know Drew Carter, the voice
of the Celtics. Now, he was one of my best
friends in school. It was me him and then I
(06:20):
and Eagles son Noah, so US three were in the
class and then we all graduate. Noah's the voice of
the Clippers. Drew, you know, already on Sports Center a
few years and he's working the Celtics gig. And I
think my big question was how can I sort of
find my niche in this industry because everybody wants to
be a sideline reporter coming out of college, everybody wants
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to be on ESPN Sports Center. So I figured I
had to get my feet wet. And the first gig
out of school was minor league baseball, Baby short Day,
you know, short season single A baseball and Upstate New
York and we were the worst team in baseball. But
I loved it still. You know long days. Was sweat
my butt off every single day, extra innings, and I realized,
(07:04):
if I still love this, it's probably my path. And
you know, long story short got into news because COVID
hit and I didn't have a choice. My first gig
was out in Gainesville. I was excited to cover the Gators.
COVID hit, so every day I was covering COVID deaths,
and you know, political election was around there, so it
was not what I wanted. I knew my passion was
(07:26):
back in sports, so gambling fell on my lap, fantasy
and gambling because everybody now the you know, the market
was super saturated. Everybody was looking for a sports gig
because sports had gone away, and I fell in love
with fantasy. I fell in love with gambling. I found
people online who knew what they were talking about, asked
them questions, and before you know it, I was working
(07:47):
for some small online shows and then Vegas calls me up.
MLB Network calls me up. I worked from LB Network
for four years. I moved up to Vegas, worked for
a sports book, and then Boston, where I've run, called
me up and said, hey, we want to launch a
betting show, and so I came. We launched the first
betting show in mass and now CPS Sports NBC Boston,
(08:07):
and sort of took a role from there. But everything,
you know, betting and fantasy wise was because I was.
I was in a weird situation, but I'm so glad
I took that up.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So was that Boston show with Sammy p Binny Chance, Yeah,
That's when I first saw Sorry, Yeah, so he was
doing stuff digitally at Fox and they kind of wrote
me in and that's how I met him. And then
he's like, oh, I'm doing stuff in Boston. And then
I watched and I was with it was with you
and him and I think one other person.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And I was just like wow.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So Boston, I'm assuming is a big gambling hub, you know,
Northeast gambling. And I'm just curious, like how, like how
did that go at the beginning because people are I
don't want to use the word losory, but if you
give out picks on air, they how did you miss that?
You're an idiot?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know, like how did that go?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because that's different from news and like minor league baseball.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, it's definitely. You got to have thick skin. And
I'm grateful that I'm from. I think we could call
it all the East Coast, but Boston's in particular because
we call them massholes. People you are not nice even
if you get if you go five and two, they're
only going to talk about, you know, the two losses
that you had. And I think I just knew that
going into it. I'm really data driven and I make
(09:26):
sure that everything I say is backed up by facts,
and you know, I'll watch the game and I'll I'll
give my opinion on something, but if I can find
a number that supports it, I'm going to do that.
So I know, if somebody says, you know, how did
you miss that, I'm not pulling these picks out of
thin air. People. You know, I'm watching the games, I'm
watching the tabe, I'm looking at the numbers. So I
think it was just that mindset I had going into it.
(09:47):
That was a dream job for me to you know,
land ness in at the age that I did just
a few years into doing TV. So I was just
grateful for the opportunity. And you know, as I say,
put your head down it and push forward, and no,
the massholes are always going to be there.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
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Speaker 2 (10:14):
Obviously, you got to be pretty smart in high school
to get into Syracuse. So I'm assuming when you say
analytically driven, like you've seen some of your competition quotes
in air quotes in the industry, right and like not
everybody's shall we say, you know, dat had driven and
went to a good school and is that smart?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
At what point are you starting to like see like,
are the girls friendly to you in this space?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, I will say in terms of being friendly to
each other, I think for the most part in my experience,
we are. We're all supportive. It is tough though sometimes
when you see it's the age of social media. I
don't really you know, blame the girls out there who
we're getting thousands of dollars through social media and all
this insane engagement because maybe they're you know, addressed a
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certain way, or they started doing something that people like,
and you know, they're.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Just go ahead continue.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, I'm not going to go to you.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'm not going to go We had one of those
on the show and you know, she explained it well,
and I she's.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Taking advantage of the market right like as you should
in my position, and I'm all, you know, I support
those women. I think that it's great, do your thing
if that's your brand. But my brand really has always
been data driven, and I'm very me. The way I'm
talking to you now, the way I talk to people
out at the bar we're talking about sports, That's how
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I'm going to be on TV. You know, and so
that's just my brand, and I think all the power
to them. But sure it's frustrating sometimes when you see
people get gigs over yours and and you think, like, man,
I feel like that would have been a better fit
for me. But that's just how this industry goes. You
know that, just as well as I do in anybody else.
Sometimes maybe the high ups do know it's a better
(12:01):
fit for one person over the other. But again, I'll
never really change my brand. I get that push sometimes
from agents and managers.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh really, you should try this.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
On social media, you should do this, And I'm like,
I really respect and appreciate your opinion, but I'm probably
just gonna keep doing what I do.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, what did your friends and family say when you're like, oh,
I'm on a show talking about sports gambling?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
What are they like? What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Like?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
My Italian uncles, one of my Italian uncles came up
with my grandmother's funeral actually, and he pulled out a
lot of cash and he goes, so will we betting tonight? Wow?
He's like, you know you got this from me, right?
I was like, I actually didn't really know where I
got it because my parents never a bet in their life.
But apparently my uncle did it pretty heapily, so he
loved it all. My exten family loved it. My parents
(12:45):
at first were definitely concerned if we just paid and thanks,
mom and dad, you paid for my whole college. Love
you for that. They paid how much money to send
you to the New House and now you're going to
do betting for a living. But I think once they
saw it grow and they saw me, you know, on Nessen,
the Red Sox and the Bruins covering these teams we
all grew up watching, they could tell their friends to
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go watch me on TV. I think they understood why
I took that path. But dadnybody like New House won't
ask me to come speak on a panel, but the
last Drew and the last Noah because they're covering the
Celtics and the Clippers, And that's fine. But I do
get a lot of college students reaching out saying betting
seems like a really cool path to take if I
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don't want to do traditional sports, and I'm so happy
to talk to them about that both. I've actually had
a lot of women, Yeah, I've had a lot of
women to reach out, and you know, I'm speaking on
a panel in Chicago in a few weeks to talk
about betting specific but just women in sports and sort
of my angle on it. And I try to take
those calls and talk to those women and girls they're young,
(13:50):
you know, as much as possible because it could be
a really daunting two men and women. I think industry
TV is but betting specific because it is really male
dominated it And a lot of people will still ask
me to the stay. I've been doing betting for what
six seven years? Like, so who feeds you all that information?
Really all the time, Jason, it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, let me ask what was the Vegas experience?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Like everybody who's listening, I know, Hey, I can handle
three four days in Vegas a week, absolute max.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You said forty years.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So I've been doing betting for you? Oh yeah, basically
since I graduated because it was a year out I
started in it. Vegas was a short stint, but I
had never lived I had never even visited before it
moved out there.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Wait, you never went to Vegas like in college or
twenty one or anything.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Oh wow, Okay, So I got the call and my
agent's like, hey, they want you out in Vegas and
I packed my stuff up in a week and I
just moved up to Vegas for the first time. Didn't
know anybody, nothing, and you know, I loved it. I
lived by the mountains and it's not like I was
on the strip.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh you were, what was it?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Oh yeah, yeah that okay summer. That's a nice, nice area.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Someone's awesome. I mean it was hot as hell, but
I had a pool and stuff. But it's funny because
when you tell people you move to Vegas, they're assuming you're,
you know, living on the street. Yeah, but my studio
was in the wind Casino, so I'd walk in this
is my first ever experience on Vegas, and every morning
i'd walk in like eight am for my show and
people are still at the poker tables or maybe just
(15:23):
arrive at the poker tables, slugging back drinks. And I'm like, wow,
Vegas really is what Vegas looks like in the movies.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It wasn't a long time I was out there, but
I think it was enough for me.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So like, what happened? Yet?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
They had you doing a show like talking NFL baseball
and all that fun stuff everything.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think That's what's been really good for
me and betting is that I've been able to just
cover all of the sports. I always thought I wanted
to be a team reporter, but when I went out
in Vegas, they basically asked me obviously, you know, hockey
was big out there with the Knights, but UFC was
really big. So I dug into UFC pretty often with
them all of the main sports and little f one WNBA.
(16:04):
So really, yeah, with that show with the media, and
I think you're probably seeing this with a lot of
the sports book is sports books is. We knew it
was gonna consolidate at some point because everyone's trying to
copy each other and not everybody has the same reach.
So I saw that pretty early with wind bet the
company I was working for. They're like, hey, we have
the school studio, We're going to try these shows, and
(16:25):
we have all of these ideas, but it was so
many things going on at once, and I'm like, you
guys should probably focus on your app right like before
we go into pushing this and and I think that's
the problem I face everywhere. But yeah, so I guess
that was the first sort of daily I show, daily
show I had because I had been working for MLB
Network for a year or so, but that was, you know,
(16:46):
a few spots a week, so that was the first
time I was digging into everything. We had a lot
of cool guests come on the show, and it was
in Vegas. People could walk by it and listen and watch.
It was the Blue Wires Studio.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know, I remember, yeah, yeah it I've never
seen it, but let me Yeah. So, so it sounds
like they're They're not just saying, hey, NFL, NBA gambling,
we want you to do hockey with Belmont stakes.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
We want you to and you were You're good with that? Huh.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah. I don't know if it's because, you know, growing up,
I played I played basketball year round. I picked up
soccer because my friends played. It was terrible, but it
was a social thing for me. I picked up lacrosse
just because you know, A Graham was trying that. I
loved learning to play new sports, and then as I
got older, I just liked learning sports that people didn't
really know much about. And maybe that goes back to
(17:33):
me just wanting to help people. I don't know that's
what I tell myself, but I've found that's fun. You know.
I started working with this company next Bets over the
last few months, and they focused solely on you know,
the out of the box sports, so it's f one.
I did a lot of Supercross. I went to my
first supercross event. They do you know, the slapping the
pro slapping leagues.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Wait, wait, hold on super Supercross is not motorcycles.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh that's motocross motocross.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, so supercross is it's AMA Monster Energy Supercross. Basically,
it's like the Big One, but it's all under undermot cross. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So what people are betting on? Guy in the slap fights?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah yeah, I actually haven't done that yet, but they
asked if I want. I'm like, yeah, sure, because I
like to learn. It's fun, right.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But so those are the sports though, where people could
take a dive easily because there's not that much They're
not getting paid that much.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Right Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I can't believe you're betting on That's insane. I didn't
even know that was like a real sport.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Is that on TV?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh yeah, I think so that's where there's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
There's money there though with betting. I mean that responsibly people, but.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You know, that Claudia.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The people betting on that are like total degenerates, like
you know, living in like a hoarders set up with
no money and they're betting on that deerator. No I'm not,
but those people are listening for you for those Yeah, no, no,
that's well.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I will say though, with the sports that not everybody's betting,
as you know, that's a softer market like the WNBA WNBA. Yeah,
I'm getting great lines on these player props, even on
the side sometimes because they're not betting it like.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
This, Wait, are you betting WNBA nightly?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Not nightly? But when I go on CBS, They'll have
me come on it and give some plays and I'm like, yeah, sprinkle,
so I think I swept or I missed like one
the other week I gave out four or five plays
And it's not like I'm betting the w every day.
But again, it's a soft market. I'm capping it just
like I would with the NBA sports. I know.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, it's just know you're right, I mean that's what
people could find Soccer. You could find a bigger edge
there for sure. It's just not as sexy as Hey.
Let's talk about the Patriots, you know, in their wind
total or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Doing all that too. It's just I have you know,
I do lacrosse. I worked with PLL for two years
as well. So I don't know. It's fun because it's
been a challenge for me and I'm reaching different types
of audiences and then if somebody does need an expert,
you know, I dive into these things. It's not like
I'm just reading articles and picking stuff out. I'm trying
to really learn the sport. And I don't know, it's
(20:07):
been fun for me. Maybe I'm maybe I'm not helping
the degenerates out there. If they're vetting the power slap.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Competition, it's fuck creepy.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So obviously, you know, you got the loser guys in
the sewer who are gambling all the time and then
hate the fact that you and I are on TV
talking about gambling, so they come after me all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I block them. I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But Claudia, I know some women who have talked to
gambling and they've when these guys come after them, they
like kind of melt down a little bit because it's
it's a little tougher when a lot of people are
coming after you online. Like, I personally don't care. I've
got you know, family, None of this stuff bothers me.
But I know some women who have like struggled with it.
How are you handling all that stuff when these you
(20:49):
know goons come after you?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, you know. I when I had my show at
NSSEN and when I was with them Albean at work,
I had an Excel spread worksheets, so I would try
called my bets, I'd show you, you know, my unit
size and everything. So I was really transparent with it.
So if anybody ever called me out, you know, she's
not telling the truth or this or that. I'm like, hey,
go check my excels or at worksheet. I don't really
care what you think. This is what it is, right.
(21:14):
And when they do come at me for stupid little things,
thankfully I haven't had much you know, targeting my knowledge
or targeting if I know what I'm talking about or not.
They'll say something about my looks or just the fact
that I'm a woman in general, or that somebody's feeding
me all of this information because there's no way I
would know all of it. So in my mind I'm
just like, oh, thank you, like, oh, you think just
(21:34):
because I'm a you know, a girl, that I don't
know this, and you think I'm not smart enough to
know all the things that I know. So I try
to frame it that way. But like you said, you
have a family, you have all these things. I'm, you know,
a single twenty nine year old who was freelancing. So
I'm waiting on all those gigs. So if I do
do a show and I go on social media and
(21:55):
somebody says something after, I feel like I did great
or maybe I didn't, and that's in my head and
I see somebody make a comment, then it definitely weighs
on me.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I no, no for sure, yeah no, no,
you know, I think that's just part of the game.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
But that's the reality.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Like we've had a lot of gambling people on your
Felika Adam Turnoff.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm sure you know all these guys. Yeah, but ultimately
it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like you just not You got to not give a
shit when these guys come after you. The only difference is,
you know, like I do know, you know, single people
go back to their house and then at night they're
just on their phone scrolling and all it is is
just a torrent of anger and and some people don't
handle that well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
So I'm guessing you're not.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Now, you obviously have a good Instagram, but are you
on social media a lot?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like are you doing TikTok YouTube? While this crap?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You know? I again from agents and managers, I've gotten
a lot that I'm not active enough. And it's because Jason.
If I wasn't in this industry, I don't know if
I'd have any social media. I think it's such a distraction.
Like when I look at my hours when I have
to I have to be on my phone all day,
I shoot and I edit videos as in freelancing, So
(23:02):
I'm on my phone all day and I'll go over
and I'll scroll on Instagram, and all it is is
us looking at people who look as though they're doing
better than us, right, And I'll look at women in
my field and I'm like, damn, how did they get
that job? Or you know, I'm happy they got that job.
I wish I could have got that job. Or this
person's getting married, this person's pregnant. I'm still here, you know, freelancing,
(23:24):
doing shows in my house, and I think it just
forces comparison that we never. I've always had it. My
parents never had it and they were so happy growing up.
And I think because of my industry, it's really it's
unhealthy in my mind. So like I tried the TikTok
and then you don't get enough views and it doesn't
make sense because I have the followers, the views aren't there,
(23:45):
and then you have to try and nail down the algorithm, and.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It's like it's a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Go outside, people like, go outside and experience the world.
And so I'll post and then I just get off,
Like I try not to scoll because it's just mind
numbing and usually don't feel great, right if you spend
a few you never feel good after scrolling on Instagram
or TikTok.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Ever, So what do you do?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Oh man, I'm busy. I'm busy. I started an app
with my sister, a fitness app actually, so I'm going
through the investor process right now. It's been five years
in the making. So as I've been trying to get
into the TV industry, I was trying to build that
up and we're really happy with it. But that's NonStop.
So as they say, you know, you're five to nine
after the nine to five, but our dev teams in Pakistan,
(24:33):
so really, I'm up at all hours doing that. I'm
a workout fiend, so I work out whenever I can.
I try to cook lots of friends. I've been going
NonStop for the last like three months. That's why telling
you we were supposed to do this, I'm like, sorry,
I'm in Toronto. Sorry I'm in New York. Sorry about
the works fun, but you know I'm young. I'm going
to do it now before I have a family and
(24:54):
hopefully land another full time gig.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
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Speaker 2 (25:08):
So I guess we'll fast forward to NFL since everybody
loves it first, I'll start. Oh, oh, we could start
with Belichick because he was a Patriots guy. I don't
know if you saw the story that all these morons.
As soon as the Jordan Hudson stuff came out, they
decided we're gonna bet the pay the tar Heels underwin
total just because this girl is a distraction. Any thoughts,
(25:31):
and again, I don't know the unc depth chart I've
seen the schedule, but we don't have lines for the
whole season, so I'm just curious your thoughts on the
Patriots and Belichick, sorry, the tar heels in Belichick.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, it's and just on the Belichick side of things.
And of course I've talked about this so much on
the Boston sports shows here, but it's so disappointing, and
they've said his family members are so sad to see that.
His legacy, of course is not being torn down by this,
but people keep saying his legacy is sort of being
tarnished because here he was like a god. And of
course there were some issues with the Brady contracts and
(26:02):
all that, but one of the greatest coaches of all time,
right if he went back to the NFL, could have
broken down Schules record. That's all we really talked about
when it came to Bill and then he went to
UNC and Okay, this is cool. It's a new chapter
for him. And when's the last time we've really heard
about anything. To your point about the UNC depth chart,
half of the people don't even know the quarterback, nobody
(26:23):
knows any of the receivers. All we've heard about is
his girlfriend Jordan Hudson, and I'm sure in his mind
that doesn't sit well with him either. So on the
football side of things, again, greatest coach of all time,
He's dealt with everything. Everybody keeps saying he has. He's
really going to go and sit on the couches and
recruit these players and do this and that. I don't
(26:44):
know if he's going to have to beg a lot
of players. Maybe the Jordan Hudson thing we'll off put
some people. I don't know about that. Everybody's goal is
to get to the NFL. I think he knows a
few people to get you there. I think he has
the skills and it's going to bring in the staff
to help players develop. And you know, if they go
to you and see I don't think they're going to
regret it. But on the Jordan Hudson side of things, yeah,
(27:05):
it's disappointing for me because I grew up with Belichick
and Brady and and Jordan Hudson's younger than me. I
actually saw her at a club, not that I go
to clubs, but I did see her at the club
a few months ago. Really, like with Belichick, no no, no,
Belchick wasn't there Belchick was there, that would be Yeah,
she looks so young though, Jason, Well, that's.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
The thing, so she's your age basically twenty four.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Come on, I give you a similar if you if
people saw both of you, they wouldn't really know the
age difference.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It would be the equivalent of one of your friends
being like, hey, Claudia, I'm dating Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
That would be a little dad.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That would be well, her.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Dad, I'm sure you've read the stories is a little
bit different, which I think kind of I don't want
to say stuff because you know, like you know anyways,
but you know what I'm talking about, Like in Boston area,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
But for me, I'm all in on the over I
think this. I think.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean again, you don't even need to know the
Jet start.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Look at the schedule.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think they're going to be favored in like at
least nine games, and there's really other than a Clemson game,
which is bookended by bys, like they should be barring
massive injury, they should be fine.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I think this is all like just misdirection.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
And you know, anytime the masses go one way, you
just go the other What about the Patriots with Drake May?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Are you as bullish as many are?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, man, I was so excited. I was really worried
about them putting him in last season just because of
our online situation. You know, his blindside was never protected,
our depth chart and left tackle in general was just awful.
Right tackle we dealt with a lot of issues as well,
and he didn't have a real receiving core. A lot
of the draft guys were sort of duds, and the
(28:50):
veteran guys weren't showing up well. Our backfield sort of
fell apart as well. Ramandra Stevenson didn't step up as
he did the year prior. So the fact that he
has digs, whether or not people keep having this discussion.
You know, is he a true number one? He's a
number one when you look at what Drake May had
last season, Right, Kyle Williams, I think is going to
be a great option. You have Fraveon Henderson out of
(29:11):
the backfield, who can catch passes as well, and then
they retain their two tight ends in Hooper as well
and Hunter Henry, so you have so many options for
Drake May. I always believed in Drake May's talent. I
think he has a great arm. I think he's accurate.
Of course, the legs were a huge thing. My biggest
fear and the reason I didn't want them to play
him last year was just because when he takes off running,
(29:33):
he's going to have to do that too often. He's
going to get injured. Luckily he didn't, you know, knock
on wood. That doesn't happen this season. But they spent
the most money in the offseason for a reason to
get that production, to beef up the defense, which I'm
a little worried about, you know, the linebacker depth. But
I still think they'll be fine. There's really no excuse.
You look at four wins the last two seasons, there's
(29:55):
really no excuse that they can't double that number. They
get at least the eight wins because of all the
pieces they run in, because the talent that Drake May has,
and I mean they were a year late on vrable,
but they finally brought him there.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So where does what do you see yourself doing? I
don't know, twenty twenty years from now, are you still
doing gambling? Are you at a network? Have you moved
on developing apps? What do you see your ideal future.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah. Yeah, hopefully my app is launched and we're actually
working with a lot of teams and you know, high
schools and trainers. I'd love to do that part of
that my passion project. But I'd love to have my
own show and sort of do something like this where
it's really laid back and we talk sports, we talk
pop culture, we do talk bitting. I've found though that
(30:43):
a lot of the networks I'm talking to now are
a little hesitant because I'm seen as the betting girl
now to hire me as just a traditional reporter or
a traditional host when it's like, and you know this,
betting is just a layer of sports analytics and sports analysis, right.
I couldn't talk about all these sports in a betting
(31:03):
sense if I didn't understand them through and through. And
hopefully people will understand that as betting becomes more of
a norm. But I'd love to be part of a
show that's not just betting focused, it's everything. And I guess,
come on, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So they're not really giving you that chance because you're
pigeon holed as oh that's the betting girl.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, and it stinks because I love that people do
realize I understand the betting market well and you can
call me an expert in it. I love that because
I've worked hard for it. But that doesn't mean I
can't be a traditional reporter as well.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Right yeah, yeah, all right, Well, congrats on all your success.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Sounds like a.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Lot of things ahead. Thank you, and you know we'll
talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Awesome, Thanks Jason, appreciate it.
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