February 13, 2025 • 26 mins
On today’s episode, Jason is joined by former NFL scout and current NFL analyst Daniel Jeremiah. During the conversation, Jeremiah discusses his biggest takeaways from the Philadelphia Eagles’ domination of the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl, what he likes most about Penn State stars Abdul Carter and Tyler Warren, whether or not the San Francisco 49ers would regret giving Brock Purdy top-of-the-market money, the narrative that the Cleveland Browns and Tennessee Titans will both wait until the 2026 NFL Draft to take their quarterback of the future, which of the ‘other’ draft-eligible quarterbacks (Quinn Ewers, Jalen Milroe, Jaxson Dart) is most likely to sneak into Round 1 of the upcoming NFL Draft and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up straight Fiream, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Fire for Thursday, February thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh, I'm so excited. No heard on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Next week, I'm taking my post football vacation, will not
be doing the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The Herd is Dark.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's gonna be a great week to just sit around,
do nothing, relax, kick back, Probably not watch the NBA
All Star Break.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just kidding.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
We'll talk about the NBA.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We'll talk about the NBA All Star Break tomorrow. But
today we have a special guest. Oh he's so good.
Daniel Jeremiah. NFL Network known the guy a while, super
nice guy. He's in high demand right now. This is
draft season and there's nobody bigger than Daniel Jeremiah. I mean,
mel Kiper used to be really good, but best of
my knowledge, he's never worked in an NFL front office.
(01:01):
He's just, you know, a talking head like me. He's
just been doing it a long time. So I like
Daniel Jeremiah's insights and I think you guys are gonna
really enjoy this. Before we get to DJ, I listen
if I'm gonna gas up the Lakers for destroying the Jazz.
Do I need to kill them for getting smashed.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
By the Jazz.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Not that they got smashed, they just elected to not
really show up Defensively. They looked like a team the
Lakers that had probably what nine seven eight nine guys
who have vacations booked and they're probably piecing out starting tomorrow.
I don't think many guys are going to All Star Weekend.
(01:39):
My guess would be that a lot of the Lakers
had in their mind, Oh, I can't wait to get
through this game. We got a vacation, and that's how
they played from the first quarter. The defense was lackluster. Jazz,
I mean the Jazz. If you just watched them and
you're like, oh shucks, this team's got some dudes.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I mean, Lori Markin, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We know that Walker Kessler is just dominant in the paint,
had six blocks, didn't a shot Dunk City. But I mean, basically,
this was one of those games. By the way, the
Lakers had won three from the Jazz, including two nights ago,
winning by a billion, and the Jazz wanted revenge. They
wanted to obviously avenge that they don't want to get
(02:17):
swept a four to zero in the series, so they
went all out. And you know, Lauri Markin was a
plus thirty five and thirty two minutes. Jordan Clarkson, I mean,
he's fun to watch, plus thirty three in twenty nine.
Just some CN numbers. Keyante George, the young kid I
believe at a Baylor or Kansas State or something like that.
He did twenty and ten assists, six boards.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, he looked good.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
They got some young, good players, but the Lakers were
just checked out. They didn't really try. Luka Doncic got
some questionable fouls and you started to see the old
Luca complaining a lot. Austin Reves couldn't throw it in
the ocean. Four of fifteen, one of ten from deep
did have eleven assists, but the Lakers just were sloppy.
They weren't locked in offensively.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was bad. They made twenty threes, which kind of
looks good, but a lot more in the fourth quarter.
I mean, Bronnie James hit two in the fourth. He
had a career high nine points.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It was just one of those like gay Man, we
don't have it, and I'm not gonna overreact. The Jazz
have beaten the Knicks, They've beaten the Warriors, they got
some scalps, they beat the wemb they beat Lucas MAVs
earlier this season. They're not good obviously, and you know,
some people probably are gonna come on air today and
crush the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh they got smoked by the Jazz.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, I mean I was a little surprised that they
didn't put up any fight, but then when you factor
in the All Star Break, a clear oversight on my part,
and overall eight not a great look for the Lakers,
but it will soon be forgotten. They come out of
the break with kind of a fortuitous schedule. Lakers will
go into the All Star Break fifth in the West,
(03:46):
which would mean a first round meeting with the Rockets.
They would beat them probably four one or four two,
and then they'd face ok see. OKC, by the way,
is really freaking good in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
We'll see about the playoffs. The're probably gonna smash someone
four zero in the first round. But they were down
to the heat heading into the fourth and they opened
the quarter I believe, on a twenty four to zero run.
That's kind That's a team that still has stuff to
accomplish and is not taking the Star Star break thing lightly.
The Lakers, with Lebron and some veterans, they had been hot.
(04:19):
They've got Luca now. It just they weren't as locked in.
Not great to see, but ultimately, in the grand scheme
of things, I'm pretty sure nobody will remember this game
in two or three weeks. That being said, let's get
to our guest, the Great Daniel Jeremiah from NFL network.
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Let's just say, I know a guy who knows the
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Speaker 2 (05:03):
All right, let's welcome back to the podcast. The foremost
draft expert on the planet. I mean, I don't know
if I'm over hyping him, but he comes on every year.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He's great.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Daniel Jeremiah, hoops enthusiast Chargers announcer.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I'm doing great, buddy. It's it's great to see you.
You do not age and your your energy doesn't dissipate
it. It does look like maybe you have some unpacking to
do behind you.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But the Girl Scott Cookie spot.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm gonna be shipping you some Girl Scott Cookies. Fat
you up, you know, get you ready for the combine.
So listen, this is draft season.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Super Bowl's over.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
My guess is that DJ, I know you were a
Senior Bowl and all that fun stuff. I'm just gonna
go ahead and guess that a lot of people are
going to say, did you see the Super Bowl? The
Eagles defensive line, and we're gonna hear a lot of
cases for defensive pass rushers pushing up in the draft.
Abdul Carter going one your thoughts on the Super Bowl
and how it could impact the draft.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, I think it marries up well and we're gonna
hit it as at the combine on our coverage because
I've already wrote it down. I finished watching the d
line last night, so I'm done with the defensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It is a stacked class.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
So you have the recent example of what a dominant
defensive front looks like. And then you have a draft
class that's going to offer a multitude of defensive lineman.
So I wrote down on my sheet, I just wrote
down VET and I threw an S on there just
to make it easy. So I just wrote vets like
that's going to be the theme of this draft. I'm
(06:29):
talking about violent, explosive, twitchy defensive lineman. Like that's what
it is, and that's what that's what you saw on
display in the Super Bowl with the Eagles and jamg
It wasn't like their front four. It was eight of
them that they're just rolling through. I mean, it's not
just having three or four guys, it's having, you know,
another wave of guys you can throw in there that
(06:50):
do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And this is kind of the Niners model, right Didn't
they run that with Sala and then they just ran
out of gast Remember.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The Tyreek Hill Super Bowl. We caught that fifty eight
yarder on third in a mile.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
So I coming into the Super Bowl, there's a couple
of things I thought would happen. Number One, I thought
the Chiefs would come out and use tempo.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Now, part of the.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Problem why they couldn't do that is because they couldn't
get a first down. When you can't get a first down,
can't keep drives alive, it's hard to go with tempo.
But I thought they would try and wear those guys
out that way. And I'll go.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
To my grave.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Believing one thousand percent if they play on a normal
surface in that previous Super Bowl meeting between the Eagles
and the Chiefs, where they weren't playing on an ice
rink and the Eagles pass russers weren't slipping and sliding
all over the field, I think they would have beat
him in that game as well.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's spicy take.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So you're the guy who had Abdual Carter number one
in the draft, and obviously he was dominant against Notre Dame,
dominant all season, great career, DJ.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Listen, you're my guy. I'm not calling you out. I'm
just saying, like, how on earth do the.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Titans not go cam Ward or should do or whoever
they prefer at one? Like, what is the argument, Broan
Callahan could get run off if he trots out Levis
again or whoever rent a quarterback, Kirk Cousins, whatever you
want to he might not make it to season three.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, And that's you know, that's the that's the challenge.
The interesting thing is you have a general manager in
year one, so these decisions tend to get made by
general managers, and general managers that have a runway know
that they're more than likely.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Get one crack at a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And do you want this to be your guy or
do you want to try and build up you know,
I go back to the old Seattle you know, a
way of doing business that we're going to build up
the roster and we're just going to drop the quarterback
in so that we can have success with a young,
cheap quarterback. I don't think their roster where it is
now is good enough to uplift the young quarterback that
might need some support and some help. And I don't
(08:40):
know that. You know, if you look at the upside
of this quarterback class, if it's quite as enticing as
what could be coming down the line in the next
couple of years. That being said, prob wouldn't be shocked
if they took a quarterback. I'm not sitting here saying
they one thousand percent are going to take Abdul Carter
or they're going to take a non quarterback. But when
your president it's elevated into that role. And some of
(09:01):
the first words that come out of his mouth that
we're not going to pass on a generational type player.
I didn't feel to me like he was discussing one
of these two quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now I've heard generational toss around for Travis Hunt.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I hate I disagree toy the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it is goofy. You had Travis Hunter in your mock
and again, this is a mock. What three months out
it's early going to also the Browns passing on a
quarterback again. I mean again, I just I don't see
how they wouldn't want to instantly get either Cam or
Shador and say we're done with Watson, it's over. Don't
care about the dead cat money. He ain't coming back,
(09:32):
we don't want him. He's toxic in the building, and
they just move on. Isn't that easier than going Travis Hunter?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
My logic on that one was there's been a lot
of dot connecting and with Kevin Stefanski and his you know,
previous relationship with Kirk Cousins, and the fact that Kirk Cousins,
you know, if we we know one thing about the Browns.
Right the money they have tied up in Deshaun Watson,
They're not spending big money in free agency on a quarterback.
Their quarterback is going to come in the draft or
it's going to come a very cheap veteran. And they
(10:02):
have a situation similar to Russell Wilson last year, where
the Atlanta Falcons are fitting the bill. You could bring
in at Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
He can.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
You could pay him next to nothing, you know, because
it's all it's all gonna be offset. He's gonna make
all his money from the Falcons. So you could pay
kirk Cousins a million bucks and have him slide right in.
And now what that that frees you up with that
top pick to be able to go get you know,
a different a difference maker. Now this was a team,
you know, people forget it was a playoff team, you know,
with Flacco the year before, and there could be some
(10:31):
thought there of, hey, like we get Kirk Cousins in
here another year removed from that Achilles in an offense
he knows and can navigate and can be functional, and
we get to use this top pick on another player.
You know, I think there's you know when you do
these mock drafts, I'm always just thinking of different scenarios
and taking little bits of information, and that was one
of the one of the avenues at least I could
(10:51):
see them going back.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, I like that, But for Tennessee you made it
sound like the GM was running the show, and then
for Cleveland a little more Stefanski. I'm just what does
that mean for the Browns front office or is this
nothing you just speculating some.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
No, I mean I think you would.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I don't see there would be a difference between Stefanski
in in in what they would have with Andrew Berry there.
I think they would be, you know, in lockstep on
that and that they're kind of in a rock and
a hard place, and that they need a quarterback and
they need one either to come cheaply via the draft
or via you know, via a veteran. So I could
one hundred percent see them taking a guy there. There's
(11:28):
you know, the rumors, you know, the little uh, the
whispers around NFL circles when you're talking to friends. Is like,
it's not hard to draw the line between the Haslim family,
the University of Tennessee, Peyton Manning Arch Manning, like that
would be his you know white whale, you know, like
his golden goose, his you know dream of all dreams
would be to have Arch Manning as a quarterback of
(11:48):
his team down the line. And maybe you know that
that's why that was a theory, right that was floated around.
But then when they've pushed back and said they wouldn't
try and figure out a way to move Miles Garrett,
I thought, well, and that's that that can't happen.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like crushes that. Yeah, yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I like how you frame whispers. So super Bowl Week, yeah,
oh that's the most fun stuff. That's what the audience
cares about.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Super Bowl Week. I was at a party and I.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Heard from two people, hey, man, keep an eye on
Stafford to the Giants, And I'm like how, And then
they start to break it down, and then they started explaining, yeah,
less needs right over there, and a certain agent for
Matt Stafford he's also coming later. Okay, I'm just curious,
where are you on the Giants their quarterback situation? And
(12:32):
then this Matt Stafford scuttle butt?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, I mean I posted about it this morning just
because I'm hearing the same thing everybody else is here,
and like that's that's one of those things that's just
floating around from a lot of different angles and a
lot of different places of this seems like a real possibility.
And again, it's rumor season, it's whisper season, and this
is the kind of stuff that could be a game,
a telephone and who knows, but it's coming from a
lot of different places. And to the point where I
(12:55):
was like, well, I'd be curious about this, and now
Giants fans lost their mind. They kind of miss interped
a little bit of a tweet that I had. Jaxa said, yeah,
I just said that I'd be curious to see what
the compensation would look like in a Matthew Stafford to
the Giants trade. And assuming that the Giants could hold
on to the third overall pick, they would have a
(13:15):
lot of options, meaning they could take an impact player.
Maybe Abdua Carter is there for them. I mean, they
have already a dominant defensive line. I don't even know,
you know how they would fit all these pieces in there.
Or you could take a Travis Hunter, or you could
trade back and get recoup some of the picks or
whatever you'd have to give up to get Stafford, and
that was immediately interpreted, is like you think they would
(13:36):
you know, the third pick, that they would trade that
for old quarterback in Matthew Start. I'm like, no, That's
where the curiosity is.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Is they have that pick.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
What would they then do with that pick if they
had the Matthew Stafford trade.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The other spicy thing I heard super Bowl week, not
totally related to the draft, but Rock Party and the Niners.
If rock Perty holds firm with this, I want fifty
five plus million. I want Dak Prescott money. Do the
Niners say, hey man, sorry, but we look around. We
see Sam Darnold out here, I see Aaron Rodgers out here,
a Bay Area guy, like, we got options.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We're not doing that Rock anything on the Niners.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I would be one hundred percent like shocked. I'm a
shocked meter of zero to one hundred one hundred. If
Brock Party does not get a deal done and is
not the quarterback of the Niners, they love him, he
fits them.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's proof of concept.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
You can have the Brock Party debate can take place
on you know, podcasts and shows that we're all on.
You can have that at the end of the day.
It doesn't matter what he is for the other thirty
one teams. He fits that specific team extremely well. There's
proof of concept coming within a you know, a hair
of winning a championship. So it makes too much sense
for them not to take care of him, to pay
(14:45):
him a number that will make other teams and pundits uncomfortable,
and they shouldn't care because it's the right guy for
their their system and what they do.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know more about team building than a lot of
the NFL analysts out there because you, you know, worked
in front of offices. DJ I got to ask if
you you saw what the Cowboys happen when they pay
Dak Like, isn't the same gonna apply.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
To brock Purty.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Maybe not immediately because I do believe he has one
year left on his deal. Like they're gonna have to
get off at least three starters. I would guess at
minimum three starters. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The other thing I would say that is they have
some age on the defensive side of the ball that
was going to naturally age out anyways. You know, so
you have some expensive players that are getting older and
that's going to naturally kind of take.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Care of itself. But that still make no mistake about it.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, it's important that you draft well and you continue
to you know, surround him with the right pieces. But
the thing that's different with the Cowboys, I would say is,
I mean they've got stability in San Francisco. It is
Kyle Shanahan and is John Lynch. And when you have that,
you have the system that stays the same. You're not
constantly changing schemes. So now you need different skill sets
(15:52):
on defense, you know, so that can mess with your
hit rate in the draft. Like they know exactly who
they are and what they are, and you know, look
at the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
That's been a little bit more in flux.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
Figure shocked for you, Luka Doncic is getting traded or
Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Getting the head coaching job.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You could be honest, Brian Schottenneimer is a new Cowboys
head coach.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It was the Cowboys. It was the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I was definitely more surprised than Luka Doncic yeah, I know,
but still I was in the airport. By the way,
I was in the airport, and it was right after
the Senior Bowl game. I think was a Sunday, right
when that went down.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, or Saturday night, Saturday Saturday night.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
But I had gone to bed on the East Coast,
so I woke up and I was at the airport
and it was like, you know, a lot of it
was NFL people who were leaving the Senior Bowl, and
it was like these little huddles everywhere, and if you
went to go get coffee, Luca don Anthony.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Dives like it was literally the talk. It's not it's not,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It's not normal that the NBA dominates a circle of
NFL folks. But that thing was that was shock value
all right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Back to the draft, kam Shador won two at quarterbacks,
whichever you want to order, but number three seems to
be up in the air now.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
DJ I like to.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Play the game where when everybody's talking about Jackson Dart,
I wonder what happened to Jalen Milroe, who all checks
all the boxes behind the scenes. I know he didn't
show up great in a couple of games, and Quinn
Ewers's name just magically not getting mentioned anywhere. I'm always
suspicious when quarterbacks who all season we talked about suddenly
are getting no juice?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Is that by design? Tell me what you're hearing.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Well, I do think the Dart stuff was real. There
are teams that like him, and I think I've made
the claim on Dart of I can draw the line
to Jalen.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Hurts with Dart. Everybody's doing it with Milroe.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I can do it with Dart.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Just from this standpoint, you got guys with similar, similar
build right, similar you know, frame, sturdy, strong guys, guys
who are smart, guys who got better every year in college,
like Hurts every step along the way from Alabama to Oklahoma.
He was ever at an elite level. No, but he
was getting better every single year. They can both rely
on their legs a little bit while they're developing as passers,
(18:10):
so that gets them on the field when they're younger
and they're not a finished product yet. Jackson Dart, I
think out over fourteen hundred rushing yards in the SEC.
He's a really good athlete. So you've you've got all
the makeup and intangible stuff is very, very similar. So
I can see how, you know, kind of you're buying
into the future here. It's like a stock and you're
buying it hoping it's going to pay off, you know,
down the line here because of the ingredients being there.
(18:32):
So that's where the Jackson Dart thing comes. Now with Milroe,
there's some people are using hurts, Okay, this is going
to help him. But there's another faction of people in
the league you talk to that are like, well, look
at Anthony Richardson. We had this unbelievable, explosive, dynamic athlete
and he's not He's not good enough as a passer
and it's not working. So that's that's the balance between
(18:52):
Milroe and you have people that are strongly in the
Milroe camp and then people that aren't. And the name
that that I'm I'm looking forward to going back through
and going through all of his tape as yours because
I watched him over the summer and I liked him.
I liked him a lot. I thought he would be
a first round pick. I thought he was trending. I
know it wasn't perfect, but he had a lot of
twitch in his movement. I thought the ball jumped out
(19:14):
of his hands.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I liked the way through the ball.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
There were some things to clean up, but I thought, Okay,
if he just takes the next step, we'll be talking
about him as a first round pick.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Now. Very uneven performance this.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Year, and the stuff that I've heard, not only from Texas,
but you know, kind of going through this pre draft
now training.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Process, was this dude was pretty pretty hurt, you know,
like he was.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I think he had an obleaque what was out there.
I think he might even had an ankle or something else.
But I'm curious once we get to the combine and
you start hearing you know, the background and the information
and the medical stuff, if we don't realize this guy
was this guy was kind of a wounded animal out
there this last year. And if that is the case,
if that gets confirmed, and he throws the ball really
(19:57):
well and has you know, good interviews and things, I
think you could see him make a late push.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah it feels like he didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
He definitely was looking over his shoulder right thinking about
the NFL. And then hey man, I got to play
through these injuries or guess what.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You ain't getting the job back? Ay I gets out there.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, then I'm totally screwed. Who was the oh quarterback?
Wise the other guy I have on.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
My list, give me your floor.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And ceiling in the draft for Riley Leonard Notre Dame,
who looked really promising a duke, and I don't know
if it was the offense, but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
He is a great athlete and like, if you want
to have some fun, like as much fun as you
had watching Cooper Dejean's basketball highlights, yea watched Riley Leonard's
basketball highlights.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
He can jump out of the gym like.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
He's a real athlete, super tough, super competitive, just started
out really had a rough one, you know, early in
the season at Notre Dame, and I think that was
that first image is like everybody's eyes were on him
and it was like, oh gosh, that was he's struggling,
bless you. And he got towards the end of the season,
they got a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
In that last game, they just ran him, They ran
him into the ground and he kind of physically you
could tell he was hurting a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
But yeah, he's a project. He's uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I actually looked at him and I was like, man,
I hate it when you say, oh, this guy can't
play quarterback, he needs to play another position. But after
seeing his basketball highlights and seeing how tough he is
and how he runs, I'm like, jeez, I kind of
wouldn't mind seeing him play some safety, Like he looks
like he could get back there and do it, but
I mean he's not. Again, don't give up on your dreams.
Chase the quarterback thing, and you know, we'll see what
opportunities he gets. But that's the level of you know,
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toughness and competitiveness and athleticism he did.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You watch Scooby Doo as a kid where they would
like capture the bad guy and they would pull the
mask off and it would reveal, Oh my gosh, So
for Jackson Dart, I pulled the mask off and I
can't see unseen. Matt Corrall, who put up massive numbers
in a Lane Kiffin system, was drafted and then just
kind of hasn't done anything. And same thing with Riley Leonard.
You pulled the mask off, and it's like, is that
Daniel Jones? Are you vibe in that or not?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
No, it's interesting, That's those are some interesting comps. I
was asked who's a comp to the day that I had?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Uh Skataboo, the running back from Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh Man, I like him.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I was asked about him and they said, what's your comp.
I was talking to somebody in the league and I said,
my comp for him would be James Connor if you
left him in the dryer too long.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I thought I was the one with all the weird comps.
But I think the Scooby Doo thing, I think you
can take it to Uh. I think you can take
the title there, but I didn't. No, Look, yeah that's
gonna be you know, those gonna be questions that need
to be answered. I like Dart better coming out than Corral.
I think they're they're built differently. Yeah, and I think,
you know, from a makeup standpoint, I think darts, you know,
just from talking to people at ole Miss, I think
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is another level from from that regard as well.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The other name one of these quarterback gurus came on
the Herd and you know, during commercial breaks, we're talking
and this guy is hyping the the daylights out of
Kyle McCord, the former Ohio state guy who went to Syracuse.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Are you hearing anything like second round. It seems a
little rich.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
No, I've I've I've done a little on him. I'm
finishing up the quarterbacks. You can see my this is
how we're gonna when I'm watching tape, here is it.
It's a it's like like my to do list to
finish before we get to the before we get to
the combine. So I'll get the quarterbacks cleaned up early
next week. But I have seen a little bit on him,
and I was intrigued because he's got a live arm
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and Paul does jump out of his hands. Now, I
was talking to a scout and I just watched like
two games, and I was like, hey, what's your take
on the cord. He's like, well, unfortunately I was at
the game. He threw five picks against I think it
was pit maybe, and.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So I'm like, well, that's that's not great.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But U there's a lot of tools, there are a
lot of traits there, and I would you know, Will
Howard's another one.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Will Howard's six y four, he's two hundred and forty pounds.
He just came off of a national championship where he
got pretty hot. I think he can move around a
little bit. I want to see him throw in person.
I've never seen him throw live. I My question is
just does the ball jump out of his hand? As
you have enough from that standpoint. But that's that's another
one at least you hear.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
All right, Two quick ones to wrap up. Will the
Jets go with Tyler Warren from Pennce eight?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Maybe my favorite player in the draft. I don't know
if he'll get the you'll go that high. Definitely feels
like the Cults are probably his floor.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I love him, I do.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I mean, so when you look at it, I'll tell
you real quick my overall player wise, my first top fifty.
I just don't think you're gonna miss on this kid
at all. He is my fifth overall player. So that
tells you how much I believe in him and everything that.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
He can do. So I'm a big fan of his.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I think he's a tight end that we always used
to joke in scouting that there's some tight ends that
are very popular in the quarterback room and there's some
tight ends that are very popular in the running back room.
He'd actually be popular with both groups. They would both
enjoy having him on the team.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, superstar, all right, Last question, two guys from Georgia.
We saw basically the Eagles defense. They we're just gonna
draft Georgia players, SEC guys, and they're gonna be awesome.
Two guys from Georgia. Michael Williams had a bunch of
injuries and then Jalen Walker is are they both ed rushers?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Who do you have your breakdown of who's better out
of those two?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Yeah, it's a great conversation. You've got Williams who's got
the freaky size length. He's gonna test like a machine
like he is so incredibly talented. Unfortunately, he got cut.
He got a cut block in the Clemson game first
week of the season, so he wasn't able to really
practice much dinner year. He was still gutting it out
and playing. But you didn't see the best version of him.
But you're gonna see, you know, a similar type. You
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know when we had you know, Trayvon Walker who went
off at the combine all of a sudden, he ends
up being the number one pick. I'm not saying it's
gonna be that level of helium, but this guy's gonna
he's gonna climb up as you go through because of
those traits and then Jalen Walker. He plays off the ball,
he plays on the ball. They move him all over
the place. He's a great football player. Now, I wish
he was a little bit longer. But you're talking about explosive,
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instinctive and like on him. I've heard like the leadership
character stuff like off the charts, like Na Kobe Dean level,
you know, type of a leader. So you can't go
I don't think you can go wrong with either. One
little different flavors, but two of the more dynamic players.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
All right, Daniel Jeremiah move the sticks NFL now work.
He's great.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Find his podcast online. Daniel, thanks a lot. I'll see you,
I don't know, hopefully soon.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Man, we'll do it.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
We'll circle back as we get through free agency. You
can just throw out everything that we talked about. None
of it will matter, and then we'll do it all
over again.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yes, certainly, all right, buddy, Thanks Bud,
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up straight Fiream, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Fire for Thursday, February thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh, I'm so excited. No heard on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Next week, I'm taking my post football vacation, will not
be doing the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The Herd is Dark.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's gonna be a great week to just sit around,
do nothing, relax, kick back, Probably not watch the NBA
All Star Break.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just kidding.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
We'll talk about the NBA.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We'll talk about the NBA All Star Break tomorrow. But
today we have a special guest. Oh he's so good.
Daniel Jeremiah. NFL Network known the guy a while, super
nice guy. He's in high demand right now. This is
draft season and there's nobody bigger than Daniel Jeremiah. I mean,
mel Kiper used to be really good, but best of
my knowledge, he's never worked in an NFL front office.
(01:01):
He's just, you know, a talking head like me. He's
just been doing it a long time. So I like
Daniel Jeremiah's insights and I think you guys are gonna
really enjoy this. Before we get to DJ, I listen
if I'm gonna gas up the Lakers for destroying the Jazz.
Do I need to kill them for getting smashed.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
By the Jazz.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Not that they got smashed, they just elected to not
really show up Defensively. They looked like a team the
Lakers that had probably what nine seven eight nine guys
who have vacations booked and they're probably piecing out starting tomorrow.
I don't think many guys are going to All Star Weekend.
(01:39):
My guess would be that a lot of the Lakers
had in their mind, Oh, I can't wait to get
through this game. We got a vacation, and that's how
they played from the first quarter. The defense was lackluster. Jazz,
I mean the Jazz. If you just watched them and
you're like, oh shucks, this team's got some dudes.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I mean, Lori Markin, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We know that Walker Kessler is just dominant in the paint,
had six blocks, didn't a shot Dunk City. But I mean, basically,
this was one of those games. By the way, the
Lakers had won three from the Jazz, including two nights ago,
winning by a billion, and the Jazz wanted revenge. They
wanted to obviously avenge that they don't want to get
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swept a four to zero in the series, so they
went all out. And you know, Lauri Markin was a
plus thirty five and thirty two minutes. Jordan Clarkson, I mean,
he's fun to watch, plus thirty three in twenty nine.
Just some CN numbers. Keyante George, the young kid I
believe at a Baylor or Kansas State or something like that.
He did twenty and ten assists, six boards.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, he looked good.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
They got some young, good players, but the Lakers were
just checked out. They didn't really try. Luka Doncic got
some questionable fouls and you started to see the old
Luca complaining a lot. Austin Reves couldn't throw it in
the ocean. Four of fifteen, one of ten from deep
did have eleven assists, but the Lakers just were sloppy.
They weren't locked in offensively.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was bad. They made twenty threes, which kind of
looks good, but a lot more in the fourth quarter.
I mean, Bronnie James hit two in the fourth. He
had a career high nine points.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It was just one of those like gay Man, we
don't have it, and I'm not gonna overreact. The Jazz
have beaten the Knicks, They've beaten the Warriors, they got
some scalps, they beat the wemb they beat Lucas MAVs
earlier this season. They're not good obviously, and you know,
some people probably are gonna come on air today and
crush the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh they got smoked by the Jazz.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, I mean I was a little surprised that they
didn't put up any fight, but then when you factor
in the All Star Break, a clear oversight on my part,
and overall eight not a great look for the Lakers,
but it will soon be forgotten. They come out of
the break with kind of a fortuitous schedule. Lakers will
go into the All Star Break fifth in the West,
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which would mean a first round meeting with the Rockets.
They would beat them probably four one or four two,
and then they'd face ok see. OKC, by the way,
is really freaking good in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
We'll see about the playoffs. The're probably gonna smash someone
four zero in the first round. But they were down
to the heat heading into the fourth and they opened
the quarter I believe, on a twenty four to zero run.
That's kind That's a team that still has stuff to
accomplish and is not taking the Star Star break thing lightly.
The Lakers, with Lebron and some veterans, they had been hot.
(04:19):
They've got Luca now. It just they weren't as locked in.
Not great to see, but ultimately, in the grand scheme
of things, I'm pretty sure nobody will remember this game
in two or three weeks. That being said, let's get
to our guest, the Great Daniel Jeremiah from NFL network.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
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Speaker 2 (05:03):
All right, let's welcome back to the podcast. The foremost
draft expert on the planet. I mean, I don't know
if I'm over hyping him, but he comes on every year.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He's great.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Daniel Jeremiah, hoops enthusiast Chargers announcer.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I'm doing great, buddy. It's it's great to see you.
You do not age and your your energy doesn't dissipate
it. It does look like maybe you have some unpacking to
do behind you.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But the Girl Scott Cookie spot.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm gonna be shipping you some Girl Scott Cookies. Fat
you up, you know, get you ready for the combine.
So listen, this is draft season.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Super Bowl's over.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
My guess is that DJ, I know you were a
Senior Bowl and all that fun stuff. I'm just gonna
go ahead and guess that a lot of people are
going to say, did you see the Super Bowl? The
Eagles defensive line, and we're gonna hear a lot of
cases for defensive pass rushers pushing up in the draft.
Abdul Carter going one your thoughts on the Super Bowl
and how it could impact the draft.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Well, I think it marries up well and we're gonna
hit it as at the combine on our coverage because
I've already wrote it down. I finished watching the d
line last night, so I'm done with the defensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It is a stacked class.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
So you have the recent example of what a dominant
defensive front looks like. And then you have a draft
class that's going to offer a multitude of defensive lineman.
So I wrote down on my sheet, I just wrote
down VET and I threw an S on there just
to make it easy. So I just wrote vets like
that's going to be the theme of this draft. I'm
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talking about violent, explosive, twitchy defensive lineman. Like that's what
it is, and that's what that's what you saw on
display in the Super Bowl with the Eagles and jamg
It wasn't like their front four. It was eight of
them that they're just rolling through. I mean, it's not
just having three or four guys, it's having, you know,
another wave of guys you can throw in there that
(06:50):
do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And this is kind of the Niners model, right Didn't
they run that with Sala and then they just ran
out of gast Remember.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
The Tyreek Hill Super Bowl. We caught that fifty eight
yarder on third in a mile.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
So I coming into the Super Bowl, there's a couple
of things I thought would happen. Number One, I thought
the Chiefs would come out and use tempo.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Now, part of the.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Problem why they couldn't do that is because they couldn't
get a first down. When you can't get a first down,
can't keep drives alive, it's hard to go with tempo.
But I thought they would try and wear those guys
out that way. And I'll go.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
To my grave.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Believing one thousand percent if they play on a normal
surface in that previous Super Bowl meeting between the Eagles
and the Chiefs, where they weren't playing on an ice
rink and the Eagles pass russers weren't slipping and sliding
all over the field, I think they would have beat
him in that game as well.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's spicy take.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So you're the guy who had Abdual Carter number one
in the draft, and obviously he was dominant against Notre Dame,
dominant all season, great career, DJ.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Listen, you're my guy. I'm not calling you out. I'm
just saying, like, how on earth do the.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Titans not go cam Ward or should do or whoever
they prefer at one? Like, what is the argument, Broan
Callahan could get run off if he trots out Levis
again or whoever rent a quarterback, Kirk Cousins, whatever you
want to he might not make it to season three.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, And that's you know, that's the that's the challenge.
The interesting thing is you have a general manager in
year one, so these decisions tend to get made by
general managers, and general managers that have a runway know
that they're more than likely.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Get one crack at a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And do you want this to be your guy or
do you want to try and build up you know,
I go back to the old Seattle you know, a
way of doing business that we're going to build up
the roster and we're just going to drop the quarterback
in so that we can have success with a young,
cheap quarterback. I don't think their roster where it is
now is good enough to uplift the young quarterback that
might need some support and some help. And I don't
(08:40):
know that. You know, if you look at the upside
of this quarterback class, if it's quite as enticing as
what could be coming down the line in the next
couple of years. That being said, prob wouldn't be shocked
if they took a quarterback. I'm not sitting here saying
they one thousand percent are going to take Abdul Carter
or they're going to take a non quarterback. But when
your president it's elevated into that role. And some of
(09:01):
the first words that come out of his mouth that
we're not going to pass on a generational type player.
I didn't feel to me like he was discussing one
of these two quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now I've heard generational toss around for Travis Hunt.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I hate I disagree toy the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it is goofy. You had Travis Hunter in your mock
and again, this is a mock. What three months out
it's early going to also the Browns passing on a
quarterback again. I mean again, I just I don't see
how they wouldn't want to instantly get either Cam or
Shador and say we're done with Watson, it's over. Don't
care about the dead cat money. He ain't coming back,
(09:32):
we don't want him. He's toxic in the building, and
they just move on. Isn't that easier than going Travis Hunter?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
My logic on that one was there's been a lot
of dot connecting and with Kevin Stefanski and his you know,
previous relationship with Kirk Cousins, and the fact that Kirk Cousins,
you know, if we we know one thing about the Browns.
Right the money they have tied up in Deshaun Watson,
They're not spending big money in free agency on a quarterback.
Their quarterback is going to come in the draft or
it's going to come a very cheap veteran. And they
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have a situation similar to Russell Wilson last year, where
the Atlanta Falcons are fitting the bill. You could bring
in at Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
He can.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
You could pay him next to nothing, you know, because
it's all it's all gonna be offset. He's gonna make
all his money from the Falcons. So you could pay
kirk Cousins a million bucks and have him slide right in.
And now what that that frees you up with that
top pick to be able to go get you know,
a different a difference maker. Now this was a team,
you know, people forget it was a playoff team, you know,
with Flacco the year before, and there could be some
(10:31):
thought there of, hey, like we get Kirk Cousins in
here another year removed from that Achilles in an offense
he knows and can navigate and can be functional, and
we get to use this top pick on another player.
You know, I think there's you know when you do
these mock drafts, I'm always just thinking of different scenarios
and taking little bits of information, and that was one
of the one of the avenues at least I could
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see them going back.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, I like that, But for Tennessee you made it
sound like the GM was running the show, and then
for Cleveland a little more Stefanski. I'm just what does
that mean for the Browns front office or is this
nothing you just speculating some.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
No, I mean I think you would.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I don't see there would be a difference between Stefanski
in in in what they would have with Andrew Berry there.
I think they would be, you know, in lockstep on
that and that they're kind of in a rock and
a hard place, and that they need a quarterback and
they need one either to come cheaply via the draft
or via you know, via a veteran. So I could
one hundred percent see them taking a guy there. There's
(11:28):
you know, the rumors, you know, the little uh, the
whispers around NFL circles when you're talking to friends. Is like,
it's not hard to draw the line between the Haslim family,
the University of Tennessee, Peyton Manning Arch Manning, like that
would be his you know white whale, you know, like
his golden goose, his you know dream of all dreams
would be to have Arch Manning as a quarterback of
(11:48):
his team down the line. And maybe you know that
that's why that was a theory, right that was floated around.
But then when they've pushed back and said they wouldn't
try and figure out a way to move Miles Garrett,
I thought, well, and that's that that can't happen.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like crushes that. Yeah, yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I like how you frame whispers. So super Bowl Week, yeah,
oh that's the most fun stuff. That's what the audience
cares about.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Super Bowl Week. I was at a party and I.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Heard from two people, hey, man, keep an eye on
Stafford to the Giants, And I'm like how, And then
they start to break it down, and then they started explaining, yeah,
less needs right over there, and a certain agent for
Matt Stafford he's also coming later. Okay, I'm just curious,
where are you on the Giants their quarterback situation? And
(12:32):
then this Matt Stafford scuttle butt?
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, I mean I posted about it this morning just
because I'm hearing the same thing everybody else is here,
and like that's that's one of those things that's just
floating around from a lot of different angles and a
lot of different places of this seems like a real possibility.
And again, it's rumor season, it's whisper season, and this
is the kind of stuff that could be a game,
a telephone and who knows, but it's coming from a
lot of different places. And to the point where I
(12:55):
was like, well, I'd be curious about this, and now
Giants fans lost their mind. They kind of miss interped
a little bit of a tweet that I had. Jaxa said, yeah,
I just said that I'd be curious to see what
the compensation would look like in a Matthew Stafford to
the Giants trade. And assuming that the Giants could hold
on to the third overall pick, they would have a
(13:15):
lot of options, meaning they could take an impact player.
Maybe Abdua Carter is there for them. I mean, they
have already a dominant defensive line. I don't even know,
you know how they would fit all these pieces in there.
Or you could take a Travis Hunter, or you could
trade back and get recoup some of the picks or
whatever you'd have to give up to get Stafford, and
that was immediately interpreted, is like you think they would
(13:36):
you know, the third pick, that they would trade that
for old quarterback in Matthew Start. I'm like, no, That's
where the curiosity is.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Is they have that pick.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
What would they then do with that pick if they
had the Matthew Stafford trade.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The other spicy thing I heard super Bowl week, not
totally related to the draft, but Rock Party and the Niners.
If rock Perty holds firm with this, I want fifty
five plus million. I want Dak Prescott money. Do the
Niners say, hey man, sorry, but we look around. We
see Sam Darnold out here, I see Aaron Rodgers out here,
a Bay Area guy, like, we got options.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We're not doing that Rock anything on the Niners.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I would be one hundred percent like shocked. I'm a
shocked meter of zero to one hundred one hundred. If
Brock Party does not get a deal done and is
not the quarterback of the Niners, they love him, he
fits them.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's proof of concept.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
You can have the Brock Party debate can take place
on you know, podcasts and shows that we're all on.
You can have that at the end of the day.
It doesn't matter what he is for the other thirty
one teams. He fits that specific team extremely well. There's
proof of concept coming within a you know, a hair
of winning a championship. So it makes too much sense
for them not to take care of him, to pay
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him a number that will make other teams and pundits uncomfortable,
and they shouldn't care because it's the right guy for
their their system and what they do.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know more about team building than a lot of
the NFL analysts out there because you, you know, worked
in front of offices. DJ I got to ask if
you you saw what the Cowboys happen when they pay
Dak Like, isn't the same gonna apply.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
To brock Purty.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Maybe not immediately because I do believe he has one
year left on his deal. Like they're gonna have to
get off at least three starters. I would guess at
minimum three starters. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The other thing I would say that is they have
some age on the defensive side of the ball that
was going to naturally age out anyways. You know, so
you have some expensive players that are getting older and
that's going to naturally kind of take.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Care of itself. But that still make no mistake about it.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, it's important that you draft well and you continue
to you know, surround him with the right pieces. But
the thing that's different with the Cowboys, I would say is,
I mean they've got stability in San Francisco. It is
Kyle Shanahan and is John Lynch. And when you have that,
you have the system that stays the same. You're not
constantly changing schemes. So now you need different skill sets
(15:52):
on defense, you know, so that can mess with your
hit rate in the draft. Like they know exactly who
they are and what they are, and you know, look
at the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
That's been a little bit more in flux.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
Figure shocked for you, Luka Doncic is getting traded or
Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Getting the head coaching job.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You could be honest, Brian Schottenneimer is a new Cowboys
head coach.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It was the Cowboys. It was the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I was definitely more surprised than Luka Doncic yeah, I know,
but still I was in the airport. By the way,
I was in the airport, and it was right after
the Senior Bowl game. I think was a Sunday, right
when that went down.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, or Saturday night, Saturday Saturday night.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
But I had gone to bed on the East Coast,
so I woke up and I was at the airport
and it was like, you know, a lot of it
was NFL people who were leaving the Senior Bowl, and
it was like these little huddles everywhere, and if you
went to go get coffee, Luca don Anthony.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Dives like it was literally the talk. It's not it's not,
it's not.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It's not normal that the NBA dominates a circle of
NFL folks. But that thing was that was shock value
all right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Back to the draft, kam Shador won two at quarterbacks,
whichever you want to order, but number three seems to
be up in the air now.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
DJ I like to.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Play the game where when everybody's talking about Jackson Dart,
I wonder what happened to Jalen Milroe, who all checks
all the boxes behind the scenes. I know he didn't
show up great in a couple of games, and Quinn
Ewers's name just magically not getting mentioned anywhere. I'm always
suspicious when quarterbacks who all season we talked about suddenly
are getting no juice?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Is that by design? Tell me what you're hearing.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Well, I do think the Dart stuff was real. There
are teams that like him, and I think I've made
the claim on Dart of I can draw the line
to Jalen.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Hurts with Dart. Everybody's doing it with Milroe.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I can do it with Dart.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Just from this standpoint, you got guys with similar, similar
build right, similar you know, frame, sturdy, strong guys, guys
who are smart, guys who got better every year in college,
like Hurts every step along the way from Alabama to Oklahoma.
He was ever at an elite level. No, but he
was getting better every single year. They can both rely
on their legs a little bit while they're developing as passers,
(18:10):
so that gets them on the field when they're younger
and they're not a finished product yet. Jackson Dart, I
think out over fourteen hundred rushing yards in the SEC.
He's a really good athlete. So you've you've got all
the makeup and intangible stuff is very, very similar. So
I can see how, you know, kind of you're buying
into the future here. It's like a stock and you're
buying it hoping it's going to pay off, you know,
down the line here because of the ingredients being there.
(18:32):
So that's where the Jackson Dart thing comes. Now with Milroe,
there's some people are using hurts, Okay, this is going
to help him. But there's another faction of people in
the league you talk to that are like, well, look
at Anthony Richardson. We had this unbelievable, explosive, dynamic athlete
and he's not He's not good enough as a passer
and it's not working. So that's that's the balance between
(18:52):
Milroe and you have people that are strongly in the
Milroe camp and then people that aren't. And the name
that that I'm I'm looking forward to going back through
and going through all of his tape as yours because
I watched him over the summer and I liked him.
I liked him a lot. I thought he would be
a first round pick. I thought he was trending. I
know it wasn't perfect, but he had a lot of
twitch in his movement. I thought the ball jumped out
(19:14):
of his hands.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I liked the way through the ball.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
There were some things to clean up, but I thought, Okay,
if he just takes the next step, we'll be talking
about him as a first round pick.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Now. Very uneven performance this.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Year, and the stuff that I've heard, not only from Texas,
but you know, kind of going through this pre draft
now training.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Process, was this dude was pretty pretty hurt, you know,
like he was.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I think he had an obleaque what was out there.
I think he might even had an ankle or something else.
But I'm curious once we get to the combine and
you start hearing you know, the background and the information
and the medical stuff, if we don't realize this guy
was this guy was kind of a wounded animal out
there this last year. And if that is the case,
if that gets confirmed, and he throws the ball really
(19:57):
well and has you know, good interviews and things, I
think you could see him make a late push.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah it feels like he didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
He definitely was looking over his shoulder right thinking about
the NFL. And then hey man, I got to play
through these injuries or guess what.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You ain't getting the job back? Ay I gets out there.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, then I'm totally screwed. Who was the oh quarterback?
Wise the other guy I have on.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
My list, give me your floor.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And ceiling in the draft for Riley Leonard Notre Dame,
who looked really promising a duke, and I don't know
if it was the offense, but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
He is a great athlete and like, if you want
to have some fun, like as much fun as you
had watching Cooper Dejean's basketball highlights, yea watched Riley Leonard's
basketball highlights.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
He can jump out of the gym like.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
He's a real athlete, super tough, super competitive, just started
out really had a rough one, you know, early in
the season at Notre Dame, and I think that was
that first image is like everybody's eyes were on him
and it was like, oh gosh, that was he's struggling,
bless you. And he got towards the end of the season,
they got a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
In that last game, they just ran him, They ran
him into the ground and he kind of physically you
could tell he was hurting a little bit.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
But yeah, he's a project. He's uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
I actually looked at him and I was like, man,
I hate it when you say, oh, this guy can't
play quarterback, he needs to play another position. But after
seeing his basketball highlights and seeing how tough he is
and how he runs, I'm like, jeez, I kind of
wouldn't mind seeing him play some safety, Like he looks
like he could get back there and do it, but
I mean he's not. Again, don't give up on your dreams.
Chase the quarterback thing, and you know, we'll see what
opportunities he gets. But that's the level of you know,
(21:29):
toughness and competitiveness and athleticism he did.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You watch Scooby Doo as a kid where they would
like capture the bad guy and they would pull the
mask off and it would reveal, Oh my gosh, So
for Jackson Dart, I pulled the mask off and I
can't see unseen. Matt Corrall, who put up massive numbers
in a Lane Kiffin system, was drafted and then just
kind of hasn't done anything. And same thing with Riley Leonard.
You pulled the mask off, and it's like, is that
Daniel Jones? Are you vibe in that or not?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
No, it's interesting, That's those are some interesting comps. I
was asked who's a comp to the day that I had?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Uh Skataboo, the running back from Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh Man, I like him.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I was asked about him and they said, what's your comp.
I was talking to somebody in the league and I said,
my comp for him would be James Connor if you
left him in the dryer too long.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I thought I was the one with all the weird comps.
But I think the Scooby Doo thing, I think you
can take it to Uh. I think you can take
the title there, but I didn't. No, Look, yeah that's
gonna be you know, those gonna be questions that need
to be answered. I like Dart better coming out than Corral.
I think they're they're built differently. Yeah, and I think,
you know, from a makeup standpoint, I think darts, you know,
just from talking to people at ole Miss, I think
(22:35):
is another level from from that regard as well.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The other name one of these quarterback gurus came on
the Herd and you know, during commercial breaks, we're talking
and this guy is hyping the the daylights out of
Kyle McCord, the former Ohio state guy who went to Syracuse.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Are you hearing anything like second round. It seems a
little rich.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
No, I've I've I've done a little on him. I'm
finishing up the quarterbacks. You can see my this is
how we're gonna when I'm watching tape, here is it.
It's a it's like like my to do list to
finish before we get to the before we get to
the combine. So I'll get the quarterbacks cleaned up early
next week. But I have seen a little bit on him,
and I was intrigued because he's got a live arm
(23:16):
and Paul does jump out of his hands. Now, I
was talking to a scout and I just watched like
two games, and I was like, hey, what's your take
on the cord. He's like, well, unfortunately I was at
the game. He threw five picks against I think it
was pit maybe, and.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So I'm like, well, that's that's not great.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But U there's a lot of tools, there are a
lot of traits there, and I would you know, Will
Howard's another one.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Will Howard's six y four, he's two hundred and forty pounds.
He just came off of a national championship where he
got pretty hot. I think he can move around a
little bit. I want to see him throw in person.
I've never seen him throw live. I My question is
just does the ball jump out of his hand? As
you have enough from that standpoint. But that's that's another
one at least you hear.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
All right, Two quick ones to wrap up. Will the
Jets go with Tyler Warren from Pennce eight?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Maybe my favorite player in the draft. I don't know
if he'll get the you'll go that high. Definitely feels
like the Cults are probably his floor.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I love him, I do.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I mean, so when you look at it, I'll tell
you real quick my overall player wise, my first top fifty.
I just don't think you're gonna miss on this kid
at all. He is my fifth overall player. So that
tells you how much I believe in him and everything that.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
He can do. So I'm a big fan of his.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I think he's a tight end that we always used
to joke in scouting that there's some tight ends that
are very popular in the quarterback room and there's some
tight ends that are very popular in the running back room.
He'd actually be popular with both groups. They would both
enjoy having him on the team.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, superstar, all right, Last question, two guys from Georgia.
We saw basically the Eagles defense. They we're just gonna
draft Georgia players, SEC guys, and they're gonna be awesome.
Two guys from Georgia. Michael Williams had a bunch of
injuries and then Jalen Walker is are they both ed rushers?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Who do you have your breakdown of who's better out
of those two?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Yeah, it's a great conversation. You've got Williams who's got
the freaky size length. He's gonna test like a machine
like he is so incredibly talented. Unfortunately, he got cut.
He got a cut block in the Clemson game first
week of the season, so he wasn't able to really
practice much dinner year. He was still gutting it out
and playing. But you didn't see the best version of him.
But you're gonna see, you know, a similar type. You
(25:20):
know when we had you know, Trayvon Walker who went
off at the combine all of a sudden, he ends
up being the number one pick. I'm not saying it's
gonna be that level of helium, but this guy's gonna
he's gonna climb up as you go through because of
those traits and then Jalen Walker. He plays off the ball,
he plays on the ball. They move him all over
the place. He's a great football player. Now, I wish
he was a little bit longer. But you're talking about explosive,
(25:42):
instinctive and like on him. I've heard like the leadership
character stuff like off the charts, like Na Kobe Dean level,
you know, type of a leader. So you can't go
I don't think you can go wrong with either. One
little different flavors, but two of the more dynamic players.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
All right, Daniel Jeremiah move the sticks NFL now work.
He's great.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Find his podcast online. Daniel, thanks a lot. I'll see you,
I don't know, hopefully soon.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Man, we'll do it.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
We'll circle back as we get through free agency. You
can just throw out everything that we talked about. None
of it will matter, and then we'll do it all
over again.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yes, certainly, all right, buddy, Thanks Bud,
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