June 6, 2025 • 28 mins
On today’s episode, Jason recaps a wild Game 1 of the NBA Finals that saw the Indiana Pacers steal the win on the road against the Oklahoma City Thunder thanks to (another) Tyrese Haliburton buzzer-beater. How do the Pacers keep doing this? Is there anybody more clutch than Hali right now? Will the Thunder bounce back in Game 2? What was Mark Daigneault thinking going small so frequently? Is Jalen Williams a consistent enough number 2 option to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander? J-Mac has the answers to all those questions - and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Fire for Friday, June the sixth, And if you're watching
on YouTube, your boys all giddy because the Indiana Pacers delivered.
What the holle? What the Haliburton folks? Listen? F can
you say about Tyrese Haliburton? How good is this kid?
(00:33):
Oh my gosh, Pacers down fifteen with about ten minutes left,
storm back on the road to beat o Casey mighty, okasey,
Oh dear, you know I'm giddy now listen. I will
be full complete disclosure. I did talk yesterday about the
(00:54):
futures bets on the Pacers, and I like those and
I think they could all hit. That would be outstanding.
But I got cold feet right before Game one, maybe
like thirty minutes before Game one. I got sucked into
this stupid narrative out there, and I put some money
on Game one Pacers. I'm sorry, thunder minus ten like
an ass, like an idiot, like a sucker. And so
(01:17):
then you get caught rob rooting for the OKC blowout
and they're up fifteen. I'm like, all right, this is great.
So kids, I gotta go walk the dog, you know,
one of those deals. And Andrew Nemhart we topped it
Miles Turner Banks in the three, and all of a sudden,
it's game on. Just this is what the Pacers do.
They did it to the Nicks, they did it to
the Calves. I really, I don't want to say I'm spechless,
(01:41):
because I've got a lot to say, obviously, but I
do want to start here, ladies and gentlemen. Tyrese Haliburton
did not have a good game by any stretch. He
did not attempt to free throw. He had just fourteen points,
six assists. Those are well below average. They still got
the win. So Tyree's Halliburton did not play good. The
(02:04):
Pacers turned the ball over twenty four times twenty fourth
They had one steal. Are you ready for this? The
thunder six turnovers fourteen steals. So the turnover twenty four
turnovers they had eighteen in the first half. And at
halftime you're like, all right, well, I don't know how
the Pacers are still alive in this game with all
the turnovers. They were literally fumbling the ball on the
(02:26):
way to the basket. Okay, see with fourteen steals fourteen.
Lou Dort was tremendous defensive and they lost. And at
that point I think you turned your attention to the
head coach, Mark Dagnall. And I know it's easy to
blame the head coach, but if you remember against Denver,
(02:48):
he kind of fumbled the bag down the stretch, did
some stupid fouling and ultimately like boom, they gave blew
up in his face and Denver stole it. Okay, in
this one from the jump they said, you know what
I called this yestro on the Pott said they're not
going to play hert and Steen a lot. He didn't
start start at case On Wallace. Case On Wallis is
an excellent young player. He's got huge upside. Probably feeling
(03:12):
himself a little bit. Oh I'm starting in the finals. Okay, Hello.
He was atrocious three for nine shooting oh for three
from deep a team worst minus thirteen. And what's weird
is when you adjust your starting lineup. And I think
Richard Jefferson said this on the air. They changed who
they are to become and match the pacers. I don't
(03:37):
love that out of the gate. What do they say
in boxing styles make fights. Well, you've got your style, bro,
you're my opponent. You got to adapt to me. And okay,
sees the home team heavily favored. Why are they tweaking
what they do to face the Pacers. But it got worse.
Dagnaut compounded that error by barely playing chet Holmgren in
(03:57):
the fourth quarter. And it's weird because I remember early
in the game it seemed like every loose ball was
going Oh Case's way. There were tip outs and they
just kept getting second chances. None of that in the
fourth quarter, folks, I looked at you know, if you
go to the ESPN box score and you hit the
play by play, they show you where all the shots
(04:17):
are made from and if you click on fourth quarter,
this is just staggering. The Oklahoma City Thunder did not
make a shot outside of the paint. They were zero
for five on threes. Sga missed that elbow jumper which
felt like he was automatic. All playoffs up one with
like I don't know, six seconds left. They didn't make
(04:38):
a shot outside the paint. They lived at the free
throw line. Meanwhile, the Indiana Pacers did what they did.
They hit one, two, three, four or five six threes.
In the fourth unbelievable performance. I mean, Rob, I don't
want to go overboard. It's one game. It's the NBA Finals.
A lot of new guys in the finals, but I
definitely did not like fewer men it's for chet Holgard.
(05:01):
They basically were playing j dub at the five down
the stretch. Meanwhile, Indiana went big. They had Obi top
In on the court. It looked like they removed Myles
Turner there for most of the rally at the end,
but they were playing with Obi Toppen and Pascal Siakam
as their bigs. And top En was you know, out
on the perimeter just banging threes. I mean it, let's
(05:23):
see he hit five threes five of eight. Top And
struggled out of the gate, but he was excellent off
the bench. Ben Matherin like didn't really have it at
a great block. TJ McConnell didn't really have it. It's
some scoring, but not really his night. This was an
Obie top in Halliburton with the game winner. Siakam was good.
Miles Turner put in some points obviously, Nie Smith ten
(05:45):
and twelve, and Andrew nemhard cooking up SGA and listened
Man six guys in double figures, rob led by Siakam
with kind of a quiet nineteen and ten. It felt
like they owned the fourth quarter inside because okay, see
went small.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean we were talking about it because this
game went live as the radio show started on fox
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Shameless Plug, and we talked right out of the gate.
It's like, hey, Dagonall, benching Hardenstein for case on Wallace
was either going to be a brilliant move or it
was going to be a terrible move. And for forty
seven and a half minutes there, it looked like a
(06:21):
brilliant move because they were basically up, you know, anywhere
between eight to twelve points for most of that game.
And it wasn't until after the game that I looked
at the box score, because you know, as you're watching,
I'm really watching the box score. I'm watching the game
as it plays out. I'm watching the frenetic Pacers come back,
which they seem to have at least one of these
a series, right, And for all the talk about the turnovers, right,
(06:45):
you know, OKAC was plus eighteen and turnovers they took
three more free throws. Two numbers that one historically and
one especially recently, seemed to normally tell you who's gonna
win a game. We're both huge in Indiana's favor. Number One.
Indiana was plus seventeen in the rebound department. I know,
(07:09):
you know, pat Riley, he used to say back in
the day, no rebounds, no rings. I don't know any
team that's gonna win a NBA playoff game, which less
the finals game, when you're minus seventeen on the boards.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And here's the think that that had to do with
Les Hartenstein and check right right, absolutely, I'm gonna try
to break it down later by quarter rebounds. That's gonna
be tough to strip out, but I definitely seventeen is significant.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's huge. And then here's the other one. This is
the new found one nowadays, in today's pace and space era,
the you know, the three ball is obviously the biggest thing.
You can almost just look at a box score and
say who made the most threes or who shot a
better percentage, and nine times out of ten the team's
gonna win. Indiana was plus twenty one from three point land.
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So while they were sloppy in the first half, nineteen
first half turnovers, because of their shooting, because of the
fact that against that vaunted OKC defense, they shot forty
seven percent overall, forty six percent from deep. They were
always kind of within striking distance. When you turn the
(08:15):
ball over nineteen times in one half, that should have
been a twenty two to twenty four to twenty seven
point first athlete for Okay se you're at home. You're
the better team by every metric there is, and this
Indiana team looks like they are a deer in the headlights,
and yet you only go up nine, and that's because
(08:36):
Shay hit a three right at the buzzer. Like you
could feel that even if OKC won this game, it
was gonna be much closer than it probably should have
because Indiana did what Indiana does to everybody. They hang around.
They hang around. You've seen the movie Rounders. It's like
Matt damon U and John Malkovich, the guys got alligate
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their blood, hang around, hang around, and next thing you know,
right at the end there Uh Flops is ut straight
wins the wins the pot. Right at the end there
Tyre's Halliburton in transition, no set play or anything hits
the game winner.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
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Speaker 2 (09:25):
So I just looked it up in the in the
play by play, so Cason Wallace, with three twenty four left,
replaces Chet Homegroun SGA hit two free throws to make
it one oh six ninety eight. When Chet came out,
the Pacers went on a thirteen to four run. Rob
I mean, you look at this at Pascal Siakam offensive
rebound and he missed one of the three throws and
(09:46):
made the next one. Then they come down the court,
Aaron Nesmith bangs a three pointer. Then you have Andrew
Nemhard hits a three pointer. So not only are they
getting offensive boards, but crash it, they're banging threes. And
there was a clutch rebound. Pascal Siakam caught a Nemhard
(10:06):
air ball and put that in to cut it to one.
And you're like, man, they're dominating inside.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And I don't know why, Dad, don't pull Chet, Like
it's not like any of the Indiana guards went off,
did they ah, I mean, Nemhard was four of eleven.
They're all like all of them made two threes. I
don't know, man, this is one of those games like
you would assume Okac bounces back, but if you look
at some of these numbers, rob, It's like, holy shit,
(10:33):
how the frick did the Pacers witness thing?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I mean, save for the turnovers. Just looking at
the box again, I hate the box score watch, but
we all saw the game and so it was such
a frenetic ending, which basically all these Pacers games are
that you almost have to go back and look at
the box score to really collect your thoughts. Indiana had
six guys score in double figures. Okay, you look at
(11:00):
Okac Shade drops thirty eight. You know he was great.
He also took thirty shots to get it, which I'd
prefer to see that number somewhere between, you know, twenty
three to twenty six. I think thirty seems like a lot,
even for him. Jay Dubb has seventeen, but he went
six of nineteen shooting. Lou Dor hits five threes, which
you absolutely cannot count on in this postseason, Like, hey,
(11:21):
he was ice cold and coming into this game one
nobody else did much of anything. And if Indiana is
gonna get that kind of contributions across the board from
so many different guys, I don't care how good that
Okac defense is. You are not gonna force enough turnover
throwt in its higher series to beat a team where
(11:44):
everybody is chipping in. Yeah, if it's just Halliburton and
Siakam or or you do what you did a Yokic,
you say, hey, we're gonna let Yokic do what he does.
We can't stop him anyway, and we're gonna shut everybody
else down. We're saying we're gonna let Halliburton do whatever
he does, and we're gonna shut everybody else down. Then
I think, okay, see wins in a ROMP. But because
they got contributions in Indiana from everybody at different times
(12:07):
throughout the game. For five minutes, it's Namhart. For three minutes,
it's Siakam Miles turning banks into three. You mentioned that,
and it's like you can't overcome all of that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I saw this. This number rub So the Pacers
were down nine with two fifty two left nine in
the play by play era, which dates backs to ninety seven,
teams were oh and one hundred and twenty one in
the NBA Finals, went trailing by seven or more in
the final three minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime.
(12:39):
Essentially that game was over with two fifty two left,
and okay, s he's at home and Rob I don't know,
maybe it's just my ears, but I keep hearing that
this is a historically great team. Do historically great teams
gag away leads like that at home? How about that?
If you don't love that. This was Indiana's fifth comeback
from fifteen or more in the playoffs, the most by
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any team in the playoffs since ninety eight. They're the
comeback Kings. And Halliburton is just mister Clutch. So there's
this one of these like shooting clutch win probability guys
who puts out charts Tyrese Haliburton is now far and
away having the most clutch shooting postseason in NBA history.
(13:24):
Number two was Lebron in twenty thirteen with the Heatles
number Number number three was Lebron in twenty eighteen with
the Cavs. Then you have Robert Oory. Dating way back
to two thousand and two, you had Anthony Davis with
the Bubble Lakers. He had the big time buzzer shot.
(13:45):
But Halliburton is now doing this seemingly rob in like
every game, and it's I don't I don't know, what
do you do with Halliburton. He's been so good in
these players, like we saw that with Jamal Murray. Remember
just Jamal Murray against the Lakers, like he was just
hitting every clutch shot. But he's like, never made an
(14:05):
All Star team, He's not amazing during the regular season.
I mean, at this point, can you put Halliburton above
Jamal Murray?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Rob oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I mean Jamal Murray's an NBA champ. He obviously didn't
get finals MVP, never been an All Star, barely played
in the Olympics for Canada. But you you have Haliburton
for sure above Jamal Murray. What about John Morant of course,
Cave Cunningham, yes, Brunson, yes. So is your point guard
(14:43):
rankings Curry followed by Halliburton or SGA. I guess it's
Luca SGA, Steph Halliburton.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
With Halliburton. Not not gonna say he's passing anybody yet,
but if he's going up with a bullet look by
the end of this run, whether they win the championship
or not. After last night, Halliburn is now six for
seven when taking a shot to tire take the lead
in the final ninety second to the fourth quart overtime
in these playoffs, the singles six for seven six seven
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eighty six percent, the most such shots in a single
postseason since nineteen ninety seven, when they started keeping track
of this kind of stuff. I remember that Lebron run
in twenty eighteen, he had like a running bank shot,
I think to beat Toronto. I don't know if that
was the year he also had won against, but again
it's Washington. I'm my mind's mixed up, but I remember
(15:38):
Lebron hitting a series of these right. Even during that time,
I never got the sense that this is one of
the greatest playoff clutch performers I've ever seen, even at
that time, because there's something kind of fluky about a
running to your left shooting a bank shot, you know,
(15:59):
when game is like that, that just doesn't feel like
what I would consider like a planned shot. You know,
even if he did plan it, you know, if he did.
Apologies to Lebron. What Tyre's Halliburton is doing last night,
gets the ball in transition, goes exactly where he wants
to go, jab step and transition step back, jumper, bam.
(16:20):
The one against the Knicks that bounces straight up, there
was like, well that's luck you you remember in that
one he goes forward into the paint, he gets stopped,
He looks back at the clock, he dribbles directly back.
He was actually trying to shoot a game winning three.
That's why he did the choke sign. This was premeditated.
Tyre's Halliburton, And if he continued, he did not say
(16:43):
another he can go oh for for the rest of
the series on these kind of shots and they lose
in five games. But the kind of run he's having
in these playoffs, coupled with the two all nbas he's
already have, coupled with the the you know, doing the
choke sign against the Knicks, doing the big balls dance
against Cleveland, after the athletic and the player's pole calls
(17:05):
and the most overrated player, We're gonna have to have
some very uncomfortable conversations about how many guys Halliburn has
surpassed just in this playoff runt alone.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Uh, well, you have a miss sports. I would need
to look at all the point guards. I mean, I
guess he just laughed, Trey Young right, like it's not
even yes.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And it's also because the way he plays. He doesn't
dominate the ball like a lot of these guys, so
his numbers are never going to be you know, twenty
eight and thirteen, like that's not the way he plays. Yeah,
I mean we talk about last year he had a
used to rate of twenty two against the Knicks. You
know how many guys in the NBA have usually rad
in the twenties, like Tyre's Halliburn is the real deal
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and him becoming the single most clutch player in NBA history,
like right before eyes is incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
This is probably the biggest Game one shocker since. Do
you remember when Boston went into Golden State in twenty
two and got the Game one? When I was watching
with a bunch of buddies, and I'll be honest, I
was stunned. I thought that was a Warrior series and
I was like, oh my gosh, they bounced back and
they were down to one and then Curry goes off
for forty three. But to me, this is this is
(18:17):
channeling like Allen Iverson against the Lakers? Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Game one? Now, I was in I'm pretty sure the
Bahamas with my family and you know, it's Lakers six ers.
I had to watch it. So I get to some
TV and everybody's like, oh my gosh, what is happen?
Because the Lakers were heavily favored, you know, and it
was like Iverson, Matumbo, Aaron McKee, I mean, come on,
(18:41):
it was the Lakers should have rolled, and they ended
up doing that. But Game one was such a shocker.
Is this gonna be that rob where the Pacers get
one and then okayse he wakes up and Dagnault's like, okay,
no more this Chet nonsense. By the way, Thunder were
outscored by nine when both Chet and Hartensteam were off
the floor in the fourth, Like that's just that's a mistake.
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Speaker 2 (19:13):
Now here's the other counter. If you're okay, see who
do you pull off? Because they were playing Jdubbin Sga
Dort who has playing had an amazing game Wallace and Caruso.
Caruso was excellent. So like, if you do go chit,
who are you pulling? I guess you have to pull Wallace,
who did not play great, but he has thought of
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as that guy's going to be a major superstar, right.
I mean, if Dort's not hitting his threes, I guess
it makes it easy to pull him. They love Caruso
and I mean he had three steals, two blocks. You
know this, Caruso's freaking everywhere, and you're not pulling jub
Or Sga. So is it almost an embarrassment of Riches?
Because I saw Wiggins, who they like a lot. You
(19:56):
played nine minutes Isaiah Joe Bareley played like I don't
want to say. Do they have too many guys? That
sounds goofy, but I don't know, Rob, Like, what do
you do?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
No, you're right, they have too many guys And this
is not It sounds counterintuitive, but this is something that
plenty of former NBA players and coaches you and I
both know I've talked to, have said about this team,
not so much during this playoff run, but during the
regular season. And it's like they need to flip two
or three of these guys for one marquee fifth player, right,
(20:27):
Like can they turn well, So I'm gonna say Keseon
Wallace and Kendrick Williams into Cam Johnson or something like that.
Like that was talked about by a lot of people
throughout the season. It's like, or even going back to
last season when they got bounced out in the second round,
it's like when you get to the finals or even
in the playoffs and it's crutch time. Most teams know
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who their five are at any given time. Like it's like, hey,
whether we started this with group or not, we know
that when we're playing against this kind of team we
have to score. This is our five. Playing a team
where we have to defend strong and just kind of
hold the lead, this is our five. What OKC has
with their problem, or at least last night was is
(21:13):
they had no idea who their five was. Yeah, and
even more importantly they I don't think they knew who
their number two was because they rolled with Jadubb because
he's Jada. He's an All NBA player and they view
him as your second best player. But based on the
way he played in the game, you cannot tell me,
he deserved to be in the closing lineup.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Let me ask you this. I don't know if it
was our guest yesterday or somebody on on uh might
have been Jovann Boja when he came on the herd,
but it was somebody was saying the idea, oh, well,
they can just max out Sga obviously, but then they
can get Chet and Jadub maxed out as well, and
(21:53):
they still have two years before those new deals kick
in or something along those lines, right, And in my head,
I'm like, Ja Dubb's a freaking max player. Really, honestly,
That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
He is so inconsistent in these playoffs. He goes from
looking at like he really struggled at times against the
Nuggets and then had like a good end to the series,
and then against the Timberwolves. It's like, is he there?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Is he not?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I don't see I know it's you guys think I'm negative.
I just don't see him as a star, do you.
I mean, Okay, Seacam is the clear two on the
Pacers right to Halliburton. I think Siakam undeniably is bad.
I would much rather have him than j Dubb. I
don't even think it's close. Now here's the thing. Would
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you rather have him over Chet?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like now we're moving forward?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well that's but yeah, but like next five years obviously Chet,
So it is I mean so rob oh gosh, I
don't want to do this yet. But if OKAC loses
a series, our guest yesterday Abbott was like, joanness makes
the most sense in Oka. See, they have the assets.
(23:02):
I mean, the best case scenario for the NBA is
Pacers win this in seven right long series and okay,
Se decides f this, we got to make a move
and they go for KD which would make me look
so good because I called that month ago or Yannis
and I mean, I don't know, do you or they
could just say no, we're running it back. We've got
(23:23):
the picks. But again, you watch a game like that
and I know, bounce back. I'm sure j Doub will
have thirty two in the next game. It's something about
me just says like j Doub is like a three.
I'm sorry, and I know it's all It's not a
one game overreaction. Maybe he's going to grow into it,
but ta you know. The big Calves guy was like, man,
(23:45):
the Calves passed on J Dubb. Imagine if they had
got him. I think they got like Isaaca Korro or
something just non factor like Jdubb could have been like
a major factor for the Calves. He could have been
and he is a factor. I think he made all NBA, right, yeah,
all NBA thirteen. I just I don't bro I don't
(24:06):
see it with him. Maybe it's it's my dislike for
Okase for whatever reason, Like you could throw number three
guys at me. How's this one? This is okay? Jalen
Johnson of the Hawks, who's hurt hurt this pat year,
but he's really freaking good?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Or JDub I love me some Jalen Johnson.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, okay, what about the good Wagner brother. I think, Oh,
Franz Bronz is a little bit better Fronz or or JDub.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I actually like Jdubb. Oh I'm not a Fronz guy.
That's well okay, So let's yeah for all the listeners
who are like, hey, get back the finally back to
the finals, right, we're getting into weez here. If we're
comparing the number twos, right, Pascal and Jadubb in these playoffs,
Pascal twenty one, six and five on fifty three forty
(24:56):
six splits.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Wait, I say night, oh wait averages? Okay, yeah, I
was talking about games.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Jay dub twenty six and five on forty five thirty
two splits. So he would say, hey, the numbers are comparable,
like you, why are you guys? You know it was
the kid say glazing, Why are you glazing? Pascal Siaka
and you're dumping on jdubble that's not fair. And the
counting stat like the averages look fine, there's nothing do
(25:22):
you if you have it in front of you, tell
me the minutes, the minutes. So Siakam averages about thirty
four minutes and Jay dub averages. I think it's right
around the same moment.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I had to go to Bay Jersey because I just
assume Ja Dub played a little bit less because they
blow everybody out to it was an insane.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Seat thirty four, both thirty four. But here's what I'm
trying to get with Jaylen Williams in these postseason all right, again,
he's averaging throughout twenty six and five, and you would
love that. Here's the problem, though, he is just as
likely to have games like he has Memphis ten for sixteen,
ten for nineteen, ten for twenty one, Right, follows that
(25:58):
up against Denver five for twenty, two for thirteen, five
for fourteen, three for sixteen Minnesota he goes twelve for
twenty in Game two, falls it up with three for
nine in Game three. Right, So it's the inconsistency, and
that's the thing that you gotta be worried. I'm not
saying that A're gonna lose this series. I'm not even
saying that I'm gonna get off the Jadub train altogether.
(26:18):
But you would like to have going into a game,
especially at game two, where you got to have this
one at home, that you know, even if it is
he gets the same numbers, he's always get twenty six
and five, that you know it's gonna be done efficiently.
He's gonna not gonna turn the ball over. He's not
gonna have all these issues. And I can't I can't
say that for sure. How about to say he's gonna
(26:39):
go into a game and have a good game in
Game two?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Jdubb against Denver shot twenty three percent from deep. Against
Minnesota he shot forty six percent exactly, Like, can I
need my number two to be a Siakam. I mean, listen,
carl Antony Towns at least is reliable on the offensive end.
This is gonna be a problem. And it's seems like
the strategy and again it's one game is hey, we
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would love to let Chet eat and not let anyone
else go off. Now Dort did get a bunch of
open three. Let them Shaye eat, Sorry, let Shae eat,
and we'll let everyone else not eat. And we're just
gonna let Shaye get thirty shots. I mean, listen, man,
thirty eight points on thirty shots is not really efficient,
is it?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Nine Today's NBA?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now, No, especially with the three ball. Then Shaye even
hit three or six from deep. But I wonder if
we will see this again where the pacers say, we'll
give you Shay, Shaye, you can have it. You can
have your MIDI get to your spots. We're just not
gonna let all these other guys bang wide open three,
Chet home grin one three point attempt. My guest, without
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looking Rob, is that the fewest he's taken in a
game in this postseason.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Three?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean that's like, okay, so he four four? Yeah,
well you want one for when they beat Minnesota buy
a million in Game one he only took one, but
most of the other games, Yeah, every other playoff game
was over one three. Like he's averaging in the postseason.
H where's the averages he's averaging. They don't show the averages.
They just show their totals. But he's probably close to
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four threes a game. He took one and he's not
taking you off the bounce. I don't know this. Listen,
Rick Carlisle, Man, this guy's freaking good. All right, Pacers
go up one nothing. Game two is Sunday. Obviously Monday
is going to be crazy. Listen. If the Pacers go
up to nothing, Rob, oh my gosh boy, you know
we needed. They did it to Cleveland and New York.
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Talk to you on Monday.
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Fire for Friday, June the sixth, And if you're watching
on YouTube, your boys all giddy because the Indiana Pacers delivered.
What the holle? What the Haliburton folks? Listen? F can
you say about Tyrese Haliburton? How good is this kid?
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Oh my gosh, Pacers down fifteen with about ten minutes left,
storm back on the road to beat o Casey mighty, okasey,
Oh dear, you know I'm giddy now listen. I will
be full complete disclosure. I did talk yesterday about the
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futures bets on the Pacers, and I like those and
I think they could all hit. That would be outstanding.
But I got cold feet right before Game one, maybe
like thirty minutes before Game one. I got sucked into
this stupid narrative out there, and I put some money
on Game one Pacers. I'm sorry, thunder minus ten like
an ass, like an idiot, like a sucker. And so
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then you get caught rob rooting for the OKC blowout
and they're up fifteen. I'm like, all right, this is great.
So kids, I gotta go walk the dog, you know,
one of those deals. And Andrew Nemhart we topped it
Miles Turner Banks in the three, and all of a sudden,
it's game on. Just this is what the Pacers do.
They did it to the Nicks, they did it to
the Calves. I really, I don't want to say I'm spechless,
(01:41):
because I've got a lot to say, obviously, but I
do want to start here, ladies and gentlemen. Tyrese Haliburton
did not have a good game by any stretch. He
did not attempt to free throw. He had just fourteen points,
six assists. Those are well below average. They still got
the win. So Tyree's Halliburton did not play good. The
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Pacers turned the ball over twenty four times twenty fourth
They had one steal. Are you ready for this? The
thunder six turnovers fourteen steals. So the turnover twenty four
turnovers they had eighteen in the first half. And at
halftime you're like, all right, well, I don't know how
the Pacers are still alive in this game with all
the turnovers. They were literally fumbling the ball on the
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way to the basket. Okay, see with fourteen steals fourteen.
Lou Dort was tremendous defensive and they lost. And at
that point I think you turned your attention to the
head coach, Mark Dagnall. And I know it's easy to
blame the head coach, but if you remember against Denver,
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he kind of fumbled the bag down the stretch, did
some stupid fouling and ultimately like boom, they gave blew
up in his face and Denver stole it. Okay, in
this one from the jump they said, you know what
I called this yestro on the Pott said they're not
going to play hert and Steen a lot. He didn't
start start at case On Wallace. Case On Wallis is
an excellent young player. He's got huge upside. Probably feeling
(03:12):
himself a little bit. Oh I'm starting in the finals. Okay, Hello.
He was atrocious three for nine shooting oh for three
from deep a team worst minus thirteen. And what's weird
is when you adjust your starting lineup. And I think
Richard Jefferson said this on the air. They changed who
they are to become and match the pacers. I don't
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love that out of the gate. What do they say
in boxing styles make fights. Well, you've got your style, bro,
you're my opponent. You got to adapt to me. And okay,
sees the home team heavily favored. Why are they tweaking
what they do to face the Pacers. But it got worse.
Dagnaut compounded that error by barely playing chet Holmgren in
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the fourth quarter. And it's weird because I remember early
in the game it seemed like every loose ball was
going Oh Case's way. There were tip outs and they
just kept getting second chances. None of that in the
fourth quarter, folks, I looked at you know, if you
go to the ESPN box score and you hit the
play by play, they show you where all the shots
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are made from and if you click on fourth quarter,
this is just staggering. The Oklahoma City Thunder did not
make a shot outside of the paint. They were zero
for five on threes. Sga missed that elbow jumper which
felt like he was automatic. All playoffs up one with
like I don't know, six seconds left. They didn't make
(04:38):
a shot outside the paint. They lived at the free
throw line. Meanwhile, the Indiana Pacers did what they did.
They hit one, two, three, four or five six threes.
In the fourth unbelievable performance. I mean, Rob, I don't
want to go overboard. It's one game. It's the NBA Finals.
A lot of new guys in the finals, but I
definitely did not like fewer men it's for chet Holgard.
(05:01):
They basically were playing j dub at the five down
the stretch. Meanwhile, Indiana went big. They had Obi top
In on the court. It looked like they removed Myles
Turner there for most of the rally at the end,
but they were playing with Obi Toppen and Pascal Siakam
as their bigs. And top En was you know, out
on the perimeter just banging threes. I mean it, let's
(05:23):
see he hit five threes five of eight. Top And
struggled out of the gate, but he was excellent off
the bench. Ben Matherin like didn't really have it at
a great block. TJ McConnell didn't really have it. It's
some scoring, but not really his night. This was an
Obie top in Halliburton with the game winner. Siakam was good.
Miles Turner put in some points obviously, Nie Smith ten
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and twelve, and Andrew nemhard cooking up SGA and listened
Man six guys in double figures, rob led by Siakam
with kind of a quiet nineteen and ten. It felt
like they owned the fourth quarter inside because okay, see
went small.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean we were talking about it because this
game went live as the radio show started on fox
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Shameless Plug, and we talked right out of the gate.
It's like, hey, Dagonall, benching Hardenstein for case on Wallace
was either going to be a brilliant move or it
was going to be a terrible move. And for forty
seven and a half minutes there, it looked like a
(06:21):
brilliant move because they were basically up, you know, anywhere
between eight to twelve points for most of that game.
And it wasn't until after the game that I looked
at the box score, because you know, as you're watching,
I'm really watching the box score. I'm watching the game
as it plays out. I'm watching the frenetic Pacers come back,
which they seem to have at least one of these
a series, right, And for all the talk about the turnovers, right,
(06:45):
you know, OKAC was plus eighteen and turnovers they took
three more free throws. Two numbers that one historically and
one especially recently, seemed to normally tell you who's gonna
win a game. We're both huge in Indiana's favor. Number One.
Indiana was plus seventeen in the rebound department. I know,
(07:09):
you know, pat Riley, he used to say back in
the day, no rebounds, no rings. I don't know any
team that's gonna win a NBA playoff game, which less
the finals game, when you're minus seventeen on the boards.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And here's the think that that had to do with
Les Hartenstein and check right right, absolutely, I'm gonna try
to break it down later by quarter rebounds. That's gonna
be tough to strip out, but I definitely seventeen is significant.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's huge. And then here's the other one. This is
the new found one nowadays, in today's pace and space era,
the you know, the three ball is obviously the biggest thing.
You can almost just look at a box score and
say who made the most threes or who shot a
better percentage, and nine times out of ten the team's
gonna win. Indiana was plus twenty one from three point land.
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So while they were sloppy in the first half, nineteen
first half turnovers, because of their shooting, because of the
fact that against that vaunted OKC defense, they shot forty
seven percent overall, forty six percent from deep. They were
always kind of within striking distance. When you turn the
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ball over nineteen times in one half, that should have
been a twenty two to twenty four to twenty seven
point first athlete for Okay se you're at home. You're
the better team by every metric there is, and this
Indiana team looks like they are a deer in the headlights,
and yet you only go up nine, and that's because
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Shay hit a three right at the buzzer. Like you
could feel that even if OKC won this game, it
was gonna be much closer than it probably should have
because Indiana did what Indiana does to everybody. They hang around.
They hang around. You've seen the movie Rounders. It's like
Matt damon U and John Malkovich, the guys got alligate
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their blood, hang around, hang around, and next thing you know,
right at the end there Uh Flops is ut straight
wins the wins the pot. Right at the end there
Tyre's Halliburton in transition, no set play or anything hits
the game winner.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
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Speaker 2 (09:25):
So I just looked it up in the in the
play by play, so Cason Wallace, with three twenty four left,
replaces Chet Homegroun SGA hit two free throws to make
it one oh six ninety eight. When Chet came out,
the Pacers went on a thirteen to four run. Rob
I mean, you look at this at Pascal Siakam offensive
rebound and he missed one of the three throws and
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made the next one. Then they come down the court,
Aaron Nesmith bangs a three pointer. Then you have Andrew
Nemhard hits a three pointer. So not only are they
getting offensive boards, but crash it, they're banging threes. And
there was a clutch rebound. Pascal Siakam caught a Nemhard
(10:06):
air ball and put that in to cut it to one.
And you're like, man, they're dominating inside.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And I don't know why, Dad, don't pull Chet, Like
it's not like any of the Indiana guards went off,
did they ah, I mean, Nemhard was four of eleven.
They're all like all of them made two threes. I
don't know, man, this is one of those games like
you would assume Okac bounces back, but if you look
at some of these numbers, rob, It's like, holy shit,
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how the frick did the Pacers witness thing?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I mean, save for the turnovers. Just looking at
the box again, I hate the box score watch, but
we all saw the game and so it was such
a frenetic ending, which basically all these Pacers games are
that you almost have to go back and look at
the box score to really collect your thoughts. Indiana had
six guys score in double figures. Okay, you look at
(11:00):
Okac Shade drops thirty eight. You know he was great.
He also took thirty shots to get it, which I'd
prefer to see that number somewhere between, you know, twenty
three to twenty six. I think thirty seems like a lot,
even for him. Jay Dubb has seventeen, but he went
six of nineteen shooting. Lou Dor hits five threes, which
you absolutely cannot count on in this postseason, Like, hey,
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he was ice cold and coming into this game one
nobody else did much of anything. And if Indiana is
gonna get that kind of contributions across the board from
so many different guys, I don't care how good that
Okac defense is. You are not gonna force enough turnover
throwt in its higher series to beat a team where
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everybody is chipping in. Yeah, if it's just Halliburton and
Siakam or or you do what you did a Yokic,
you say, hey, we're gonna let Yokic do what he does.
We can't stop him anyway, and we're gonna shut everybody
else down. We're saying we're gonna let Halliburton do whatever
he does, and we're gonna shut everybody else down. Then
I think, okay, see wins in a ROMP. But because
they got contributions in Indiana from everybody at different times
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throughout the game. For five minutes, it's Namhart. For three minutes,
it's Siakam Miles turning banks into three. You mentioned that,
and it's like you can't overcome all of that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I saw this. This number rub So the Pacers
were down nine with two fifty two left nine in
the play by play era, which dates backs to ninety seven,
teams were oh and one hundred and twenty one in
the NBA Finals, went trailing by seven or more in
the final three minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime.
(12:39):
Essentially that game was over with two fifty two left,
and okay, s he's at home and Rob I don't know,
maybe it's just my ears, but I keep hearing that
this is a historically great team. Do historically great teams
gag away leads like that at home? How about that?
If you don't love that. This was Indiana's fifth comeback
from fifteen or more in the playoffs, the most by
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any team in the playoffs since ninety eight. They're the
comeback Kings. And Halliburton is just mister Clutch. So there's
this one of these like shooting clutch win probability guys
who puts out charts Tyrese Haliburton is now far and
away having the most clutch shooting postseason in NBA history.
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Number two was Lebron in twenty thirteen with the Heatles
number Number number three was Lebron in twenty eighteen with
the Cavs. Then you have Robert Oory. Dating way back
to two thousand and two, you had Anthony Davis with
the Bubble Lakers. He had the big time buzzer shot.
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But Halliburton is now doing this seemingly rob in like
every game, and it's I don't I don't know, what
do you do with Halliburton. He's been so good in
these players, like we saw that with Jamal Murray. Remember
just Jamal Murray against the Lakers, like he was just
hitting every clutch shot. But he's like, never made an
(14:05):
All Star team, He's not amazing during the regular season.
I mean, at this point, can you put Halliburton above
Jamal Murray?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Rob oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I mean Jamal Murray's an NBA champ. He obviously didn't
get finals MVP, never been an All Star, barely played
in the Olympics for Canada. But you you have Haliburton
for sure above Jamal Murray. What about John Morant of course,
Cave Cunningham, yes, Brunson, yes. So is your point guard
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rankings Curry followed by Halliburton or SGA. I guess it's
Luca SGA, Steph Halliburton.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
With Halliburton. Not not gonna say he's passing anybody yet,
but if he's going up with a bullet look by
the end of this run, whether they win the championship
or not. After last night, Halliburn is now six for
seven when taking a shot to tire take the lead
in the final ninety second to the fourth quart overtime
in these playoffs, the singles six for seven six seven
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eighty six percent, the most such shots in a single
postseason since nineteen ninety seven, when they started keeping track
of this kind of stuff. I remember that Lebron run
in twenty eighteen, he had like a running bank shot,
I think to beat Toronto. I don't know if that
was the year he also had won against, but again
it's Washington. I'm my mind's mixed up, but I remember
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Lebron hitting a series of these right. Even during that time,
I never got the sense that this is one of
the greatest playoff clutch performers I've ever seen, even at
that time, because there's something kind of fluky about a
running to your left shooting a bank shot, you know,
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when game is like that, that just doesn't feel like
what I would consider like a planned shot. You know,
even if he did plan it, you know, if he did.
Apologies to Lebron. What Tyre's Halliburton is doing last night,
gets the ball in transition, goes exactly where he wants
to go, jab step and transition step back, jumper, bam.
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The one against the Knicks that bounces straight up, there
was like, well that's luck you you remember in that
one he goes forward into the paint, he gets stopped,
He looks back at the clock, he dribbles directly back.
He was actually trying to shoot a game winning three.
That's why he did the choke sign. This was premeditated.
Tyre's Halliburton, And if he continued, he did not say
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another he can go oh for for the rest of
the series on these kind of shots and they lose
in five games. But the kind of run he's having
in these playoffs, coupled with the two all nbas he's
already have, coupled with the the you know, doing the
choke sign against the Knicks, doing the big balls dance
against Cleveland, after the athletic and the player's pole calls
(17:05):
and the most overrated player, We're gonna have to have
some very uncomfortable conversations about how many guys Halliburn has
surpassed just in this playoff runt alone.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Uh, well, you have a miss sports. I would need
to look at all the point guards. I mean, I
guess he just laughed, Trey Young right, like it's not
even yes.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And it's also because the way he plays. He doesn't
dominate the ball like a lot of these guys, so
his numbers are never going to be you know, twenty
eight and thirteen, like that's not the way he plays. Yeah,
I mean we talk about last year he had a
used to rate of twenty two against the Knicks. You
know how many guys in the NBA have usually rad
in the twenties, like Tyre's Halliburn is the real deal
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and him becoming the single most clutch player in NBA history,
like right before eyes is incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
This is probably the biggest Game one shocker since. Do
you remember when Boston went into Golden State in twenty
two and got the Game one? When I was watching
with a bunch of buddies, and I'll be honest, I
was stunned. I thought that was a Warrior series and
I was like, oh my gosh, they bounced back and
they were down to one and then Curry goes off
for forty three. But to me, this is this is
(18:17):
channeling like Allen Iverson against the Lakers? Do you remember that?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Game one? Now, I was in I'm pretty sure the
Bahamas with my family and you know, it's Lakers six ers.
I had to watch it. So I get to some
TV and everybody's like, oh my gosh, what is happen?
Because the Lakers were heavily favored, you know, and it
was like Iverson, Matumbo, Aaron McKee, I mean, come on,
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it was the Lakers should have rolled, and they ended
up doing that. But Game one was such a shocker.
Is this gonna be that rob where the Pacers get
one and then okayse he wakes up and Dagnault's like, okay,
no more this Chet nonsense. By the way, Thunder were
outscored by nine when both Chet and Hartensteam were off
the floor in the fourth, Like that's just that's a mistake.
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Speaker 2 (19:13):
Now here's the other counter. If you're okay, see who
do you pull off? Because they were playing Jdubbin Sga
Dort who has playing had an amazing game Wallace and Caruso.
Caruso was excellent. So like, if you do go chit,
who are you pulling? I guess you have to pull Wallace,
who did not play great, but he has thought of
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as that guy's going to be a major superstar, right.
I mean, if Dort's not hitting his threes, I guess
it makes it easy to pull him. They love Caruso
and I mean he had three steals, two blocks. You
know this, Caruso's freaking everywhere, and you're not pulling jub
Or Sga. So is it almost an embarrassment of Riches?
Because I saw Wiggins, who they like a lot. You
(19:56):
played nine minutes Isaiah Joe Bareley played like I don't
want to say. Do they have too many guys? That
sounds goofy, but I don't know, Rob, Like, what do
you do?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
No, you're right, they have too many guys And this
is not It sounds counterintuitive, but this is something that
plenty of former NBA players and coaches you and I
both know I've talked to, have said about this team,
not so much during this playoff run, but during the
regular season. And it's like they need to flip two
or three of these guys for one marquee fifth player, right,
(20:27):
Like can they turn well, So I'm gonna say Keseon
Wallace and Kendrick Williams into Cam Johnson or something like that.
Like that was talked about by a lot of people
throughout the season. It's like, or even going back to
last season when they got bounced out in the second round,
it's like when you get to the finals or even
in the playoffs and it's crutch time. Most teams know
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who their five are at any given time. Like it's like, hey,
whether we started this with group or not, we know
that when we're playing against this kind of team we
have to score. This is our five. Playing a team
where we have to defend strong and just kind of
hold the lead, this is our five. What OKC has
with their problem, or at least last night was is
(21:13):
they had no idea who their five was. Yeah, and
even more importantly they I don't think they knew who
their number two was because they rolled with Jadubb because
he's Jada. He's an All NBA player and they view
him as your second best player. But based on the
way he played in the game, you cannot tell me,
he deserved to be in the closing lineup.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Let me ask you this. I don't know if it
was our guest yesterday or somebody on on uh might
have been Jovann Boja when he came on the herd,
but it was somebody was saying the idea, oh, well,
they can just max out Sga obviously, but then they
can get Chet and Jadub maxed out as well, and
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they still have two years before those new deals kick
in or something along those lines, right, And in my head,
I'm like, Ja Dubb's a freaking max player. Really, honestly,
That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
He is so inconsistent in these playoffs. He goes from
looking at like he really struggled at times against the
Nuggets and then had like a good end to the series,
and then against the Timberwolves. It's like, is he there?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Is he not?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I don't see I know it's you guys think I'm negative.
I just don't see him as a star, do you.
I mean, Okay, Seacam is the clear two on the
Pacers right to Halliburton. I think Siakam undeniably is bad.
I would much rather have him than j Dubb. I
don't even think it's close. Now here's the thing. Would
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you rather have him over Chet?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like now we're moving forward?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well that's but yeah, but like next five years obviously Chet,
So it is I mean so rob oh gosh, I
don't want to do this yet. But if OKAC loses
a series, our guest yesterday Abbott was like, joanness makes
the most sense in Oka. See, they have the assets.
(23:02):
I mean, the best case scenario for the NBA is
Pacers win this in seven right long series and okay,
Se decides f this, we got to make a move
and they go for KD which would make me look
so good because I called that month ago or Yannis
and I mean, I don't know, do you or they
could just say no, we're running it back. We've got
(23:23):
the picks. But again, you watch a game like that
and I know, bounce back. I'm sure j Doub will
have thirty two in the next game. It's something about
me just says like j Doub is like a three.
I'm sorry, and I know it's all It's not a
one game overreaction. Maybe he's going to grow into it,
but ta you know. The big Calves guy was like, man,
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the Calves passed on J Dubb. Imagine if they had
got him. I think they got like Isaaca Korro or
something just non factor like Jdubb could have been like
a major factor for the Calves. He could have been
and he is a factor. I think he made all NBA, right, yeah,
all NBA thirteen. I just I don't bro I don't
(24:06):
see it with him. Maybe it's it's my dislike for
Okase for whatever reason, Like you could throw number three
guys at me. How's this one? This is okay? Jalen
Johnson of the Hawks, who's hurt hurt this pat year,
but he's really freaking good?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Or JDub I love me some Jalen Johnson.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, okay, what about the good Wagner brother. I think, Oh,
Franz Bronz is a little bit better Fronz or or JDub.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I actually like Jdubb. Oh I'm not a Fronz guy.
That's well okay, So let's yeah for all the listeners
who are like, hey, get back the finally back to
the finals, right, we're getting into weez here. If we're
comparing the number twos, right, Pascal and Jadubb in these playoffs,
Pascal twenty one, six and five on fifty three forty
(24:56):
six splits.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Wait, I say night, oh wait averages? Okay, yeah, I
was talking about games.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Jay dub twenty six and five on forty five thirty
two splits. So he would say, hey, the numbers are comparable,
like you, why are you guys? You know it was
the kid say glazing, Why are you glazing? Pascal Siaka
and you're dumping on jdubble that's not fair. And the
counting stat like the averages look fine, there's nothing do
(25:22):
you if you have it in front of you, tell
me the minutes, the minutes. So Siakam averages about thirty
four minutes and Jay dub averages. I think it's right
around the same moment.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I had to go to Bay Jersey because I just
assume Ja Dub played a little bit less because they
blow everybody out to it was an insane.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Seat thirty four, both thirty four. But here's what I'm
trying to get with Jaylen Williams in these postseason all right, again,
he's averaging throughout twenty six and five, and you would
love that. Here's the problem, though, he is just as
likely to have games like he has Memphis ten for sixteen,
ten for nineteen, ten for twenty one, Right, follows that
(25:58):
up against Denver five for twenty, two for thirteen, five
for fourteen, three for sixteen Minnesota he goes twelve for
twenty in Game two, falls it up with three for
nine in Game three. Right, So it's the inconsistency, and
that's the thing that you gotta be worried. I'm not
saying that A're gonna lose this series. I'm not even
saying that I'm gonna get off the Jadub train altogether.
(26:18):
But you would like to have going into a game,
especially at game two, where you got to have this
one at home, that you know, even if it is
he gets the same numbers, he's always get twenty six
and five, that you know it's gonna be done efficiently.
He's gonna not gonna turn the ball over. He's not
gonna have all these issues. And I can't I can't
say that for sure. How about to say he's gonna
(26:39):
go into a game and have a good game in
Game two?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Jdubb against Denver shot twenty three percent from deep. Against
Minnesota he shot forty six percent exactly, Like, can I
need my number two to be a Siakam. I mean, listen,
carl Antony Towns at least is reliable on the offensive end.
This is gonna be a problem. And it's seems like
the strategy and again it's one game is hey, we
(27:05):
would love to let Chet eat and not let anyone
else go off. Now Dort did get a bunch of
open three. Let them Shaye eat, Sorry, let Shae eat,
and we'll let everyone else not eat. And we're just
gonna let Shaye get thirty shots. I mean, listen, man,
thirty eight points on thirty shots is not really efficient,
is it?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Nine Today's NBA?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now, No, especially with the three ball. Then Shaye even
hit three or six from deep. But I wonder if
we will see this again where the pacers say, we'll
give you Shay, Shaye, you can have it. You can
have your MIDI get to your spots. We're just not
gonna let all these other guys bang wide open three,
Chet home grin one three point attempt. My guest, without
(27:46):
looking Rob, is that the fewest he's taken in a
game in this postseason.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Three?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean that's like, okay, so he four four? Yeah,
well you want one for when they beat Minnesota buy
a million in Game one he only took one, but
most of the other games, Yeah, every other playoff game
was over one three. Like he's averaging in the postseason.
H where's the averages he's averaging. They don't show the averages.
They just show their totals. But he's probably close to
(28:14):
four threes a game. He took one and he's not
taking you off the bounce. I don't know this. Listen,
Rick Carlisle, Man, this guy's freaking good. All right, Pacers
go up one nothing. Game two is Sunday. Obviously Monday
is going to be crazy. Listen. If the Pacers go
up to nothing, Rob, oh my gosh boy, you know
we needed. They did it to Cleveland and New York.
(28:37):
Talk to you on Monday.
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Jason McIntyre
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