September 15, 2025 • 47 mins
On today’s episode, Jason discusses the biggest reason why Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs are 0-2 to start the season, whether the Cincinnati Bengals can count on the health of 'Glass Joe' Burrow moving forward, what he learned from the Dallas Cowboys' wild overtime win over Russell Wilson and the New York Giants, and why the Indianapolis Colts' last-second win over Denver says more about some shoddy officiating than some 'resurgence' of Daniel Jones. Finally, J-Mac closes the show with his Best Bets for the Monday Night Football double-header featuring the Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs the Houston Texans, and the Los Angeles Chargers vs the Las Vegas Raiders.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up, Drake Fire Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre.
Straight Fire for Monday, September the fifteenth. Whoa, somebody is
excited and I'm sure you guys are woo. We're recording
this after the Minnesota Vikings got trounced, my boy JJ McCarthy,
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who Rob is gonna go after a little bit later,
McCarthy did not look good behind him. Makeshift offensive line, Falcons,
run away and hide, easy dub for your boy. Two
and two in the contest. For me, pending the Houston
Texans tonight, I probably will lose sleep over the Denver
Broncos a couple nights this week. I thought that was
I'm still irate and hot over what transpired in that
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game against the Colts, But I think we got to
start with you know, everybody's been trying to make them
America's team in the last few years because they've been
going to the Super Bowl and winning the Super Bowl,
and they've got Patrick Mahomes, they've got Taylor Swift's fiance,
they've got Andy Reid, they play in the heartland. The
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reality is the Kansas City Chiefs stink right now, guys,
And that's inarguable. You could tell me, yeah, they won
all these Super Bowls and you're just a hater and
your Jets suck, which is pretty much part for the
course anytime I mentioned the Chiefs. But the reality is
they stink. They're own to. They can't move the football,
the defense cannot get Keith stops. In the fourth quarter,
Chris Jones is talking trash to Jalen Hurts when you've
(01:37):
lost the game. It's like over. They're taking a knee
and Chris Jones is talking trash to Jail and Hurts up.
So you guys saw the video, you could you barely
had one hundred yards of offense. I think he meant passing.
Jalen Hurts had one hundred and one yards passing. Who
cares they want? What's the goal to have two hundred
yards passing or win the football game? And Jalen Hurts
basically shut him up with we won the FN game.
(01:58):
You more on be quiet one of those. And the
video is awesome. I thought it was ai because you
rarely get to hear players trash talking like that. I mean, listen,
the Kansas Chiefs are zero and two Last year in
one score games, Casey was eleven and oh and route
to fifteen and two. This year in one score games,
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they are oh and two and I don't know what
they're gonna finish. Listen, they're not gonna fall off a
cliff and win five games that it's not gonna be
that bad short of a major injury to Mahomes. But guys,
here's what it's really scary. Go look at the Kansas
City Chiefs stats from last year. Go look at the
players that were picking up yards. It's almost identically the
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same dudes. It's still Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt. It's
still Kelsey and uh Jujuspath Schuster and Noah Gray. And
I don't know how much Hollywood Brown played last year,
but I know they got him. He might have been
injured all year. Taekwon Thornton is new Racehi Rice is
in Yere, but he wasn't here last year. He got
hurt early against the Chargers. The reality is this is
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basically the same unit, but they got stale. That's what's
going on with the Kansasity Chiefs. They're not a good
football team. Patrick Mahomes. When was the last time you
saw Mahomes miss somebody as wide open as Thornton was.
I mean that was an unbelievable miss. Nobody within like
six yards of Thornton and Mahomes overthrew them by like
five yards. Kansas City has no explosiveness on offense. They
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had the bomb to Thornton for the touchdown, which was
a great pass, no doubt about it. It was a few
plays after Mahomes had to miss, but essentially their run
game is nonexistent. I keep hearing, oh, this guy Josh Simmons,
the young Ohio State kid. Okay, sure, you know, he's
been an amazing hustle play to thwart what could have
been a one hundred yard pick six. But overall, Patrick
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Mahomes led them in rushing seven carries sixty six yards.
This isn't about the Eagles, who, by the way, they
don't look overpowering, but they're winning. They've got a strategy
and they follow it and it's working. It's not pretty,
but they're winning. I mean, essentially, on there were two
huge swing plays in this. One of them is the
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Chiefs bring the house. I think it's zero blitz and
Jalen Hurts reads it the line gives him just enough
time to chuck it up to DeVonta Smith and he
Devanta Smith was matched up one v one with their
best corner, Trent McDuffie. McDuffie doesn't recognize the ball. Smith
adjustin air, makes a catch first in goal like that.
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That was play number one, play number two. And this
is a tough one. And I know we said he's
now washed. He does lead the league in commercials. I
know he's planning a wedding. But Travis Kelce had a
pass at like the one yard line of the goal
line go off his hands. It was it hit both
of his hands. Now, maybe you could argue has a
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little low, little off target. Bro, you're a professional football
player going to the Hall of Fame, making millions of
dollars a year. You have to catch when it hits
both your hands. The ball goes off his mits bounces
up right into the hands of an Eagle defender. I
don't even know. I don't really recognize the guy. Andrew Moukuba.
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He is a rookie out of Toe. Oh, he's a
rookie out of Texas.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He picks it up and he goes back like forty yards,
just a huge swing. Chiefs are about to take the lead,
and then you know what happened after that. Obviously, the
Eagles get in moving down the field and score a
touchdown and they go up twenty ten, and then that's
a wrap. I mean, folks, football is a game of inches.
As we'll get to eventually probably with the Broncos and Colts.
(05:37):
Football is a game of inches in so many of
these games. I mean, Brandon Aubrey hits a sixty four
yard field goal, sixty four to send it into overtime, Like,
come on, that's crazy, mean, while the Broncos kicker, Yeah,
I'm still really pissed off the upright with like five
minutes left to go up five instead of two, and
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you lose it. Like it's just so football is crazy,
and the bounces are not going Kansas City's way this year. Rob.
Last year they went Case's wait all season up until
the Super Bowl when they got exposed. Remember almost the
same group Rob fifteen to two last year. Not a
lot of different people. And now oh and two start.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, you know, Jason de quote, my favorite Kansas City
Chiefs super fan. I don't know about you, but I'm
feeling Oh and two like the everything that went well
for the Chiefs since, you know, for the last year
and a half has gone sideways. Entering this season, you
know this, the Chiefs had not lost a one possession
game since twenty twenty three. Okay, they have now lost
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two straight one possession games to open the season. They're
zero and two for the first times it's twenty fourteen,
the first time, of course, in the Mahomes era. The
last six times in their franchise history that they started
oh and two, they missed the postseason entirely. And you know,
across the NFL, not just in Kansas City, teams that
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start out zero to two make the postseason at just
twelve percent chance. So it is not looking good for
Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey and company. And I
think you hit the nail on the head right off
the top. The issue is not necessarily the talent, because
it's the same team basically that they had last season, right,
and that team was even though we all agreed it
was a lot of fools gold, that team was good
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enough to make a run of the Super Bowl, and
for me to even pick them to win that Super
Bowl just because they kept finding ways to win. They
kept finding ways to win. You lean on that experience,
You lean on Mahomes, you lean on Andy Reid, leon
on Chris Jones, and that defense coming up with the
keys stop here and there, and so you can't say
that it's just the personnel that's the problem. The problem
is right now as we head into week three, they
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don't have an identity. They don't know who they are.
I don't even know if they know who they're trying
to become right now, because the first two games have
been so polar opposite of the way they kind of work.
They worked out both ways. Patrick Mahomes. Leading your team
and rushing for two straight games tells me you cannot
run the ball, tells me you cannot be a physical
team up front. Tells me that that offensive line with
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a new left tackle a new left guard is not
good enough right now to impose their will on the
opposing front and become a defense first run the ball,
Patrick Mahomes' money on third down type of team. They
just can't do it right. On the flip side, you said, hey,
we got what is supposed to be the best quarterback
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in the NFL, supposed to be arguably the greatest quarterback
of all time. It shouldn't matter whose weapons are on
the outside. He should be good enough for us to
score twenty three, twenty five, maybe even twenty seven points
a game. And that's just not happening. The loss of
Rashi Rice is huge. We talked about before the season started,
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even before we knew when exactly he was gonna be suspended.
You combine that with Xavier Worthy shoulder injury and suddenly.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Play yesterday Worthy, No, yeah, I didn't see.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No, no, he didn't play. But now suddenly you're looking on
the outside and you have again. We're not gonna call
him wash, but we're gonna say that he's pre soaking
gotta pre soak Travis Kelcey. You got Hollywood Brown, who
has not really been in an impactful receiver for three
or four years now, and a bunch of unproven guys
this side of maybe Juju Smith Schuster, who at this
(09:25):
point is like a journeyman wide receiver. And what you're
asking Patrick Mahomes to do is to become the guy
that he was three, four or five years ago, and
that guy's just not here anymore. He might be in
some metrics, depending on who you talk to. If you
talk to like the Dan Orlowski's or you know, the
Matt Hasselbacks of the world, they might say he's a
better quarterback now than he was when he first started
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out against it. And that might be true, like just
in terms of playing the quarterback position, he might be
better now than he was then, But what he was
back then was explosive. What he was back then was, Hey,
if we're down ten, don't worry about it, because I'm
gonna find a way to hit some receiver. If it's
not Tyreek Hill, some guy who don't know who just
happens to be fast. I might hit a journeyman Sammy Watkins.
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I might hit you know, a rookie Sky Moore for
a thirty five yard game. And suddenly we're bing bang
boom back in business. And they just can't do that anymore.
Like they are Nickel and dime, dunk and dunk. Their
biggest plays are when things break down and pass mahomes
escapes for fifteen twenty yards. So until they decide who
they want to be, or maybe more precisely, until they
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decide who they can be, because I think right now
they're still fishing and they're trying to figure out what
exactly their identity is gonna be. They're gonna struggle again.
I'm not saying they're gonna win five games like you said,
but you're not gonna see a good to great, you know,
contending type team until they figure out who they are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, whoever wins tonight, Chargers or Raiders will go up
two games on the Chiefs. And I know it's just
two games. And listen, case he has the Giants next week.
I'm looking at point spreads. I actually don't see it
as we're recording now. But on the look ahead, the
Chiefs who have to go on the road, so they
went Brazil home New York. The look aheadline, the Chiefs
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were minus six and a half against Russell Wilson lit'ten.
Giants were frisky as hell on Sunday, so that'll be interesting.
And oh, by the way, their pass rush is really
something not to be trifled with. The back end is weak,
but they can get after the quarterback and Russ has
some explosiveness. Neighbors, I thought this was gonna be blow
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out city. I don't know. I don't think it's a lock.
And by the way, Ravens on deck. So there's a
great sandwich spot for the Chiefs, well, a terrible sandwich spot.
You go Eagles rematch and then the Giants who stink,
and then you have the Ravens who are your basically
your op speaking kid language robout. Your kids aren't hold
enough to say that, but oh that's my op. Yeah,
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basically the Ravens the Chiefs to hate each other. I've
been battling for several years now, So listen, I like,
I'm gonna steal your line. I don't know about you.
I'm feeling I went to I'm we'll be stealing that
on the herd. Did you come up with that yourself?
Though you don't have to cap I know, I.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Mean, I didn't know if that was that creative. I
felt like that was kind of a low hanging fruit.
I feel like that's right there for everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Straight up genius Patrick Mahomes's first career three game losing streak.
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Speaker 2 (12:32):
Second biggest stories of the day, and It's bad news
is Joe Burrow. You know, in the off season, I
wondered if if there's another injury to Brow, do we
start calling him Glass Joe because he's always hurt. Feels
like every other year Joe Burrow's going down. I mean
he's not These guys like Mahomes, Montana Brady, they never
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got hurt. Brady only missed one season with the with
the the ACL or. I think it's a c l
m CL got wrecked in Week one, missed the whole season,
but that was it. I mean, the guy played like
twenty years, never got hurt. Anyway, Go, Joe Burrow goes
down again. This one a toe And here's the crappy part.
Sound I didn't know there was such thing as a
Grade three turf toe injury. And he's gonna need surgery.
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They're saying three months. So maybe he's back in early
December now. Jake Browning shout out to Jake Browning, Washington's finest.
He has shown really well replacing Joe Burrow. He did it.
I think it was was it two years ago? Yeah?
I did two years ago. Browning was very solid and
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yesterday listen, I know he had the three picks and
he tried really really hard to give Jacksonville the game. Yeah,
Browning's been around. This is his third season. Yes, so
two last year he did not throw a pass, But
two years ago he played nine games, completed seventy percent
of his passes. Like, he was not awful, you know,
he was more than I believe. He was, Like in
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the Heisman mix at Washington for like five minutes, but
he listened when Trevor Lawrence and I don't I don't
think we could do a midwek convo in Trevor Lawrence
rob but I was just disappointing. You know, I like
the Jags in that one. I did not have him
in the contest, but that game should have been the
Jag should have had that game. You go to the
red zone six friggin times four hundred yards of offense.
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How do you not win that game? He had Lawrence
had a brutal end zone pick in the end zone,
then had another one basically in his own end that
just handed the Bengals points. And so Browning threw an
interception in his own end with five minutes left the
The Bengals were trailing. So at this point you're like, Okay,
(14:45):
here we go Trevor Lawrence could put them away. They
get a good road win, and Lawrence just didn't make
it happen. Fourth and five from the Bengals seven. You
can't kick up three to go up six, then you
definitely lose. So they went on fourth and five and failed,
and Jake Browning goes, are you ready for this? Fifteen
plays ninety two yards in three minutes of chains for
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the touchdown. They had a fourth down conversion, a fourth
down pass interference call on the Jags, and the Bengals
get the win with Jake Browning and that's all nice
and good. Jamar Chase, how about this? Sixteen targets had
fourteen catches for a buck sixty five, I mean basically
force feeding Chase. He had fourteen catches. The other one two, three,
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four or five six seven guys had fourteen catches. I mean,
Chase is a beast Jacksonville does not have. Now, I
haven't looked to see rob if Chase was eating up
Travis Hunter. But Chase went bonkers and the Bengals get
a fortunate win. So they're two to zero. Have not
looked good in either game. Have not been impressive defensively. Offensively,
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they do travel to Minnesota this week. Now, Minnesota is
really beat up. They had they lost their center to
a concussion. I think like two other guys went down.
Minnesota is a mass unit. I think Browning has a
bit of a wake up call next week going on
the road to face the Brian Floores defense. Hopefully they
get Van Grinkle back or Van Ginkle. And then they
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faced did Denver. So I know people are like, hey,
we're good with Jake Browning. We're all right, folks. You
have to face Minnesota's Brian Floores, great defensive coordinator. Then
Denver and they're great defensive unit, although Daniel Jones torched them.
Then you host the Lions, who could put up points.
Then it's at Green Bay. So this is a four
game stretch where Jake brown is gonna have to put
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on his big boy pants and grow up fast. I
personally don't think he'll be up for the challenge. So
I don't know where you go from here with Joe Burrow,
Like you ken't. So I saw an analogy where it's
essentially like having I think you invested two hundred and
seventy five million dollars in Joe Burrow and then you
decided we're not going to get an offensive line to
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protect him, and he's just running for his life every time.
On the play where he broke his toe or suffered
the turf toe injury, he was running for his life.
He's pivoting in the pocket like he's Michael Jackson, you know,
like the guy's dancing for his life. And ultimately he
went down and it was bad. He could barely walk
off on his own strength. Rob. I do think that
opens up you know, no disrespect to Browning. I think
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it opens up a playoff spot in the AFC. I'm
still tinkering with who it helps, but my guess is
this greatly will help like a Chargers of Broncos, maybe
a Titans. I know they're rowing too, but I have
seen some things I like. But I don't think the
Bengals can get to the playoffs without Burrow for three months.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Hey, maybe it's the Colts. I know you don't have
high on Danny Dimes, but you know, maybe it's the Colts.
Maybe it's the Maybe they sneak in just as far
as the Colt of the Bengals. First, before we get
to Joe Burrow. I like Jake Branngle. I think it's
a really good quarterback. And to your point that these
next four games are kind of brutal, So save for
Minnesota and you'll get to JJ mccarth a little bit later,
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but those next three at Dnver homework to destroy at
Green Bay is basically a murder Isroe. But then you
look after that and it's, hey, we got Pittsburgh Jets, Bears,
Pittsburgh Patriots. So there is a little sandwich in there
where you can kind of get right again and see
what happens. Because Joe Burrow has missed fourteen games as
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an NFL starter. In games that he's out, the Cincinnati
Bengals are two games under five hundred. Obviously they're much
different team. They They scored just under twenty points, so
it's not like they're the same team. Of course, Night'
not even this same without Joe Burrow. But if they
can go whatever six and six, five and seven. This
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is one of those weird situations where I know they
haven't looked good at all, but historically in the Taylor era,
they're like one of the worst September teams period, not
just for good teams, like they're were of the worst
teams like with my Raiders and with your Jets, and
with the Bears and the Jags, Like they're that bad
of a team historically in September in the Taylor era,
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So for them to start out two and zero kind
of puts them on a springboard a little bit where
if they can just continue to get better, which is
what they always do under Taylor, Like as the season
goes on, they're usually playing their best football come December.
If they can kind of treadwater a little bit and
hopefully Joe Burrow gets a second opinionHe they say it'stad'swelve weeks,
maybe it's eight. Maybe there's no surgery and it's an
(19:17):
extensive rehabit, some kind of walking, but I don't know
what it is. But it is possible for them to
still come around and Thanksgiving and they're, you know, on
the periphery, like they're right there, ready to sneak into
a postseason spot if they shake their way. As far
as Joe Burrow, you mentioned, you know, the injury history.
I think we've talked about this before in the podcast.
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Here's Joe Burrow's injury history going back to college right
twenty seventeen, breaks a bone in his throwing hand twenty twenty, Yes,
twenty twenty tears rib cartilage in the College Football Playoff
Championship Game. Now, obviously it didn't matter because they blew
him out anyways, but he did get hurt there. Twenty
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as a rookie in the NFL torn ACL MCL twenty
twenty two, ruptured appendix, twenty twenty three, calf strain which
I people worried about the Achilles for a long time,
and then twenty twenty three season ends with a torn
ligament in his wrist. Now, at first glance, you look
at these injuries say, hey, they're all different. None of
them are really related. It's not like he has a
recurring foot issue, not like he has a recurring shoulder
(20:20):
issue that we've got to be concerned about. But it
does tell you that either because of his style of
play or maybe he's just one of those guys who's
injury prone, but he's gonna be nicked up more often
than not, and it's something you have to bake into
your expectations if you're a Cincinnati moving forward. Maybe there
is a way I have to look at the contracts.
Maybe there's a way where they say, hey, we know
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we gave Chase and Higgins these big deals. Maybe there's
a way we can get out of the t Higgins
deal a year earlier, or maybe we can get off
of in some kind of trade, because us having two
primetime wide receivers is not helping our quarterback right now,
because we need to keep him upright first and foremost
we're gonna any chance of making any noise in the AFC.
So this might be, I know it sounds we are
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some kind of blessing in disguise for Cincinnati because it's
going to force them. I feel like to really reevaluate
the way they build their team because they're building it
from the outside end, and you know, anybody who's played
football or covered football will tell you that is the
exact opposite of what you should be doing. They have
all the fun toys, they have all the gadgets, they
have all the icing. They don't have them beating the potatoes.
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They don't got the steak.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't exactly know if if that was one of
the best games of the day. My daughter is doing
all this volleyball stuff right now. So I was at
this volleyball event watching on red Zone on my phone,
so I wasn't as dialed in with like the stats.
I had to go, you know, research every game. I
don't know if that was a good game or a
bad game when the quarterbacks combined for five interceptions, but
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I do know Giants Cowboys, which was all over red
zone because the fourth quarter was unbelievable. Forty one points
in the fourth quarter. I mean I have it as one, two, three,
four or five lead changes in the fourth quarter. It
was like Giants Cowboys. Giants torched the Cowboys deep Wandale
Robbins had fourth down touchdown catch. I was so pissed
because I had the Cowboys obviously in a survivor and
(22:13):
I had them in pick them pools and I bet
them they did not cover. And then the Pickings touchdown.
I'm like, all right, we're good, we got this, and
the neighbors deep over the top. Russell Wilson was freaking incredible.
Four hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns. Here's the
weird part. At one point I'm watching with these two
dads who had their own phone, and they're like, wait,
Jackson Dart was in rob do you why did Jackson
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Dart go in for one play.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I didn't even catch that part because by then my
feet had already switched over to the Eagles and Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay, So I didn't know if Russ was ineffective or whatever.
I'm like, he seemed to be cooking, and so maybe
it was just like a helmet issue or whatever. Neighbors
went off. The Giants had five hundred and six yards. Now,
I know Deron Bland didn't play, but come on, five
hundred and six yards seven point eight yards were played
for the Giants. I is it Cowboys defense that bad?
(23:03):
Here's the weird thing, rob. So last week the Eagles
barely through the football barely. This week the Cowboys get gashed,
not on the ground but through the air. So it's like,
can they stop anyone? They couldn't stop the Eagles run,
couldn't stop the Giants pass. I don't know. This is
not good. Oh by the way, the Cowboys were kind
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of bailed out because the Giants had fourteen penalties for
one hundred and sixty yards and were one for five
in the red zone. So like you add all this
stuff together and it's like, what on earth is this?
I don't really know what the Giants are but it
kind of Rob feels like Brian Dable is not gonna
go down swinging. I think we would all agree he's
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in trouble. The schedule is difficult. They're gonna need to
steal any game they can. I would say, I like
to fight from the Giants, you know, like they did.
They could have rolled over and just said we're trash
or it's over. I thought that was an impressive showing,
even though they didn't get to win. And of course
Cowboys fans see this and they're like, oh, all right,
we got we got something cooking here. Oh my gosh,
dak three hundred and sixty yards Brandon Aubrey greatest kicker
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ever in the history of the sport. But it's not
like Dallas was impressive, Rob. This was like some This
felt like a Big twelve game from two thousand and seven,
where it was like Patrick Mahomes doing for like six
hundred yards and scoring sixty points in losing.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You know, yeah, I gotta I gotta pull back to Clonel,
But I gotta be honest with you, Okay. When this
game was going on, before my TV had switched, I
saw the big touchdown there in the final minute to
milk Neighbors, Right, yeah. I immediately shared the video of
my social media handles and I said, one step closer
(24:43):
to the NFC East Crown at Giants when I tell you,
I had a tweet and delete that thing in about
thirty five seconds. And I felt like it, like a
Jack asked me, because you know, I'm all in on
the Giants this season.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I believe last.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Year was the Jets, right, yes, and that this year
you just wan to New York I do I guess,
I just admit it. I was feeling it. I was like, Hey,
the Giants are gonna the defensive front is great. Eventually
they're gonna make the switch over to Jackson Dark and
they are gonna steal that division at eleven and six
and then they went full Giants. They did it again.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You mentioned the penalties, and as bad as the penalties were, right,
the Giants, according to ESPN win Analytics, had an eighty
seven percent chance of winning the game when Neighbors caught
that touchdown with twenty five seconds, and they found a
way to lose it anyway. But to your point with Dallas,
I don't know how you feel great about that game,
(25:40):
because according to ESPN, you had an eighty seven percent
chance of losing that game at home against what should
be an inferior opponent, at least according to you. Guys,
like that defense is horrible and I don't think Jadavian
clown is gonna do much to save it, even though
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Kenny Clark, how about Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark stopped the run? Yeah,
really bottled up Tyrone Tracy that helped out.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, Cam Scatted was scoring touchdowns on you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like, how about Scatt? He's a scat MASKI I have
a kind of a fan of just that lyric. I
don't like care for them.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I mean, and you know, I'm not going to give
up hope yet with my Giants, But because you know,
the the defense, the whole nfcast so far does not
look great. The Eagles are two and no, but you
mentioned it. They haven't looked great in neither of those
two games. The Cowboys should be zero and two, and
Washington just had their doors blown off by Green Bay.
So maybe when Jackson Dark gets thrown into the fire
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here in about a week, you know, I'll have something
to fill optimistic about. But then, looking at Jeremy Fowler's
article that came out on Thursday of last week. He's
reporting that despite what we all think, and we all
think that the team, Jackson Dart is their best quarterback
on the roster right now, point blank period. He's of
the opinion his sourcing is telling them that Brian Dayball
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and Joe Shane are like, no, we're not going to
put him in until he is ready to succeed. Whether
he's the best quarterback on the roster right now is
immaterial because they view him in like the Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen Vain where it's like, we want him to
be the best quarterback three, five, seven years from now,
and to hell with whatever's going on in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
A little goofy, But I can understand getting optimistic. I mean,
I guess I understand.
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Speaker 2 (27:37):
There's no point in talking about the New York Jets.
They got smashed. All the excitement from last week it
was out the window, and you know, it was kind
of rob again, I'm not doing anything on this game.
The Jets were zero for eleven on third down, Justin
Fields got concussed fields and Tyrod Taylor combined for like
fifty four net passing yards. Josh Allen did nothing. He
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had no touchdown. This is how the game went, and
it was over in like eight minutes. Jets three and out,
Bill's touchdown drive, Fields fumbles on the first play, Bills
get a field goal, Jets punt Bill's field goal, Jets
three and out. James Cook incredible touchdown run. I have
him in Fantasy twenty to zero. And at that point
the Jets had a total of like eleven yards and
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it was game over, like it was twenty to nothing
Bills and the Jets had eleven yards, and every all
these sharps who were like, you gotta bet the Jets here,
I am not gonna lie. I did get him at six,
which was dumb. It was stupid. The Buffalo Bills are
vastly superior the game. I do want to talk about
rob before we get to best bets for tonight. I'm
not gonna talk about Kyler Murray and Arizona just nearly
gagging against Carolina. But I've just just because I was
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pot committed to Denver. Okay, the Denver Broncos right now,
just a colossal letdown for me losing to the Colts.
Let's get this out of the way. The culture too
and zero. Everybody's geek for Shane Stike and Daniel Jones.
They're gonna be one of the bigger stories on Monday
and Tuesday. You could just tell the media is like
happy for the Colts, you know, like, hey, indies, two
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and oh, Like this is me making like the jack
Off motion, like give me a break, Come on, guys,
So what that they're two and oh. They beat Miami,
who looks like argue about bottom three team in the league,
and they get lucky as hell to beat the Broncos.
This was their game winning drive where Stichen who and
this is again the Margins. Rob Stichen is being hailed as,
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oh my gosh, he's two and oh with Daniel Jones.
He's found Daniel Jones. Guys, if they don't get bailed
out by some bullshit call, I think that hell, they
called leg wrench, that's what the referee said. I was like,
leg wrench. I've never heard that in NFL game in
my life. So the Stikeen settles for a sixty yard
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field cold, I see you don't have Brandon Aubrey on
the sideline, okay, but he essentially just kept running into
the line of scripage. It was like, oh, we're good
from sixty. The guy shanks a sixty yarder. I'm celebrating.
My kids are like, oh, I didn't know you like
the Broncos. And then all of a sudden there's a
flag and they got at leg Rents. I'm like, what
the hell? But it was not just like a five
yarder fifteen yards. So now sixty becomes forty five. I mean, chuck.
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The guy drills a forty five and I am irate. Okay,
just remember the New Orleans Saints started last year two
and zero and how did that? Where did that get them?
So Ian Rapaport got the or some guy who covers
the Broncos got the referee explanation from this nonsense call.
(30:34):
So the referee said, for leverage, as a defender, you're
not allowed to place your hand on an opponent or
a teammate and push off to propel yourself into the
air to block a kick. In this case, number ninety
two blah blah blah, and that's a fifteen yard penalty,
So just let that sink in. You're not allowed to
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place your hand on an opponent or a teammate and
push off to propel yourself in the air. You can't
just run up and push off the guy and jump. Folks,
what on earth do you think they're doing? On literally
every block kick attempt, you're jostling and then you're trying
to like get as high as you can. And again,
there are a million examples of this not being called.
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And if you go look online, you see that this
is never this is so rarely called. Okay, they call
it on a game missing field goal from sixty and
it's fifteen yards, and like that's when you would LIKECT
to enforce it. It's it's not quite what is it?
Rob Is it a carry? It's like it's essentially like, oh,
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Kyrie Irving has five seconds to go to win the game,
Kyrie Irving makes a great move, hits the game winner,
and then they call a carry on Kyrie Irving like
there would be an outrage and an investigation, like, give
me a break, I carry. This is just such a
bad call that being said, the Broncos did blow this
game multiple times. Bo Nicks. Listen, he's had a rough
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start to the season. His numbers were good, twenty two
thirty for two, five three touchdowns. Fourth quarter, you're up.
I forget how much they were up. It might have been. Yeah,
I think they were up too, with like eleven minutes left,
and bow Knicks is like third and three from inside
the thirty yard line. So it's like, Okay, if we
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get the first down, awesome. Otherwise we'll just kick the
field goal. We have points. Bow Knicks decides to play
hero and chuck it deep and he's way off from
the receiver. It's intercepted, Like, what are you doing, bro
throw it away? You know, you scramble out of bounds,
kick the field You had points, so fine, whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
They screw that up.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The next time they get the ball because the Colt
turn over on downs, the Broncos have a chip shot
field goal from forty two yards out and Lutz, who's good,
hits the upright and at that moment I knew, I'm
totally effed. And again, I know it's just one game.
Jason's settled down, but it's like, I mean, when you
have them and you lose them, Rob, that that would
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hurt I just I you know, let me get the
positives out of the way for like the eighteen Colts
fans out there. The Colts have not punted through two games.
I'm ngl. Jonathan Taylor went off one hundred and sixty
five yards. Daniel Jones was good. He's making throws. It
was I remember there was like a third and five
and Daniel Jones is not picking on Patrick's curtain, but
he just didn't care. He went at Cirtana, they got
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the first down. I was like, okay, I mean Jones
is delivering. Now it's two games. Eventually enough stuff's gonna
get put on tape that we're gonna defenses will figure
out Jones. Now the alternative, Rob, If you want to
be positive, glass half full. Hey, Jay, you know what,
Baker Mayfield just needed to find his guy. Sam Darnold
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needed to find Kevin O'Connell. It can happen. You can
get the resurrection of these quarterbacks. Daniel Jones was garbage
for most of his career, but now he's what five
years in, It's like, maybe he's good. I don't know.
I need a little more than two games. Especially after
seeing the Saints go to Ando last year and then
shitting the bed the rest of the way. Just for
the record, the Colts they face, they're at Tennessee now,
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so they have to leave the friendly confines go outdoors
against Tennessee. I love Tennessee. This past week, I know
the box score or the final score says they got
blown out, folks. Tennessee was down twenty to sixteen to
the Rams and had the ball with eleven minutes left,
like that was a four point game. In the fourth quarter,
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back and forth, nip and tuck, and then cam Moore
gets sacked fumbles, Rams score a touchdown, three and out,
Rams score a touchdown. That's a rap, but that was again.
The Titans are gonna be frisky. I'm gonna tell you
right now, the Titans are winning this game next week.
I'll bet them again. But I don't know, Robert, go ahead.
Maybe I'm going too overboard on this Broncos penalty bullshit.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, you just sound like a guy who got burned
with the bad beat. That's all it is. Like, I
get it. I know you lost some money on then,
that's why you're so upset. I feel like you buried
the lead though, and because it's technically now Monday on
the East Coast here as we record this podcast, I
don't feel like I'm gonna be smited for saying this.
He has risen and his name is Daniel Jones, Indiana Jones.
(35:09):
Danny Times is back, Baby, the resurrection is here. Like
you're glossing over something that I like, I don't know
why you're doing this. Is it because of what happened
with the Saint thing? You don't want to admit what
you're watching right now?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Would you be as excited if they missed the sixty
yard field goal? They're one and one and it's I
just feel like the whole narrative shifts on a penalty.
That's fine, Like, I don't think you'd be talking up
Daniel Jones if they missed that sixty yard Why wouldn't I?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Why would I not have Daniel?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
He couldn't bring them down the.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Field, Daniel Jones, you mentioned they haven't punted yet through
the first two games. Right through for the first two
games here, both wins against you know, Miami sucks, but Denver,
who I believe is gonna be a very good team
at the end of the season. Forty five of sixty
three five eighty, which I believe is second in the
NFL heading into Monday Night, seventy one percent completion percentage,
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two touchdowns, no picks, three more rushing touchdowns, passer rating
of one to eleven, and a QBR of eighty one. Like,
what more do you want from him? What more you
looking for from the Vanilla vick? All Right? It is
possible he's not the way too many it is possible
that he's not great, right, and the history says that
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Daniel Jones is not a good quarterback. But we have
seen it. You mentioned it, Sam Darnold last season. We thought,
after week two, after Week four, after week seven, Yeah,
the numbers look good, but he's not great, they're not
any good. Like it's going to fall apart at some point,
and eventually it did. But by the time it fell apart,
they were already a playoff team and they were in
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the postseason. Why can this not happen in Indiana, Indianapolis?
Why can Danny Dimes and Shane Steike and not have
this beautiful marriage that leads to him unlocking all the
potential that he's always had. Like people who even the
most negative people towards Daniel Jones can admit that he
has tools, that he has some athleticism, right, he has
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a good enough arm, He's a big guy, is strong.
He just could not play the quarterback position to save
his life. And he was a turnover machine anytime the
lights got bright. What if all it took was him
getting out of New York and the spotlight has come
with that and not being on primetime national TV four
or five times a season. Maybe it took him going
to a nondescript franchise like the Colts where he can
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eat up some teams, ride a ten and seven, eleven
and six type team into the postseason, and then we'll
see what happens. But right now, Daniel Jones is playing
at like a top five quarterback in the NFL. And
I don't know why it's so hard for you to
admit that.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
That's two games, Like, come on, yeah, okay, do you
think he's a top five quarterback?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
He's playing like one?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay again, He's defense is legit, he carved him up.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Is playing better than Patrick Mahomes?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh, he's had too much better games than Patrick?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Is he even after that crazy Week one? Is he
not currently playing better than Josh Allen. Because now Josh
Allen broke his nose on Sunday. I know that's an excuse,
but he did not look good at all on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, yeah, it's weird. They didn't really need him. I mean, listen,
I don't know how. I don't how tough is it
to play football with a broken nose? Is he gonna
need a new mask?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
He might have to wear a viser when he plays
next week.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
He's gonna need it. Like it looked like it was
easy for the guy to get his hand in there
and break his nose. Here, here's another stat for your boy, Dan,
Dan Vanilla vic Indiana Jones or whatever. So the Broncos
decided to blitz Daniel Jones a lot, right he was
he had. He went sixteen or twenty five for two
sixty five in a touchdown. That's pretty damn good against
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the blitz. So, I mean, yes, he's been amazing. How
much longer will this last? I don't freaking know. I'm
just trying to let's see here. Yeah, I think that's
pretty much those are the Oh oh, we gotta do
this real quick. Since Rob is a UCLA fan. Oh god,
they fired your You guys lost a New Mexico, Oh
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my gosh on Saturday. So I played pickup hoops Sunday
morning with a guy who played. He was a linebacker
in New Mexico, like all conference, and I was like, oh, dude, Cody,
were you at the game. He's like, Oh, I brought
my family. A bunch of my other teammates were there.
It was amazing. And he's like telling us about to
see the UCLA fans are just like destitute. It's like, bro.
So they fired the coach Sunday morning. They waited for
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NFL games to kick off. I think it was like,
I guess one oh five technically U Eastern time. They
decided to fire him, which is smart. Foster was a
disaster from his intro press conference. But I am curious,
like is this even a good job Because they've been
down for a while. The school has high academic standards.
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I don't know if football really matters to them anymore.
And I don't know how easy of a turnaround this
is gonna be. All that being said, UCLA is a
beautiful campus. It might be the best camp, most beautiful
campus I've ever been to. I've been to you know,
many campuses around the country, but I've spent some time
over there and I absolutely love it. It's not a hard
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sell at all. Right, if you're trying to get recruits
out there, I don't maybe the high academic standards make
it difficult, but rob they got to fix this. I don't.
Is this a good job.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
No, it's not a good job. And I'm saying that
as a UCLA fan who's been to more games than
I can count over the last ten years. But it's
really quite simple. Number One, they play in the Big Ten,
which is the best conference in football. So right off
the bat, your best season, your best team you're ever
gonna have is probably like the sixth seven seven best
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team in your conference, just right off rip. That's the
way it is coaching UCLA. That's number one. Number two,
you don't have the A and M Texas tech level
nil contributions. That does not that UCLA.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It doesn't even re elective.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's not a big one. And for that matter, it
doesn't really exist that much at US either. Like you know,
because some guys I know you talked to Colin a lot.
The USC sells its brand, right, they sell that, they
sell southern California, but they don't have the deep pockets
like some of these other schools do at all. And
UCLA is the stepchild at USC You can get that.
Regard number three, The fan base, you know, Present company excluded,
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is indifferent on the football program. My brothers and I
try to go to at least one game all of
us together every season, but other than that, we spread
it out. I'll go to one brother goes to a
couple whatever. We were texting the group chat on Thursday
last week, Hey, you know, we can get tickets on
the thirty five yard line for tomorrow night's game against
New Mexico for six dollars. Hey, maybe we should do that,
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and we really talked about it. The problem is, you know,
we all got kids, and it was kind of tricky
to make it all work, so we'ld end up doing it.
But the fact that you could get tickets on the
thirty five for six dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Probably more expensive to park, right.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
It Basically, yeah, the uber ride would have cost like
five times that, you know what I mean? Like, what
are we doing? And last, but not least, this might
be the biggest issue that no one's even talking about.
But shout out to Stu Mandel. I think he's been
on the radio show at least don't know about the podcast.
He reported over the weekend that UCLA's athletic department has
operated at a two hundred million dollar deficit over the
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last six years. What kind of coach is going to
come into a situation knowing in the world that we
live in today in college football, that you don't have
the money to compete, you don't have the fan base
that's going to get you riled up, you don't have
an nil collective that's worth talking about. And most importantly,
you're playing in the best conference in football, which means
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your best team is probably winning eight games maximum.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
But you should be able to get a collective going.
A lot of smart, wealthy people went to UCLA. It
should not be that hard.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Right, But they don't care about football like that. Here.
This is not Texas, this is not the sound.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
If you can convince them maybe hey, that's a tall
or maybe you convince them to if you build it,
they will come. All right, we're running out of time.
We're running out of time real quick. Two Monday night
football games. I'm sure wives all over the country are
absolutely thrilled at this, especially after Sunday Rob's Raiders and
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Chargers that are the nightcap, the early game kicking off
at for Eastern. How about good is that four o'clock
Pacific Bucks at Texans. I am loaded up on the
Texans minus two and a half. If it doesn't hit,
I will be very somber. I have him in the
contest every which way. I think the Texans defense is
dominant here. I'm I don't think Tristan Wurfs will play.
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It sounds like he's headed more to play in week three.
You don't want to rush him back and then re
injure anything. And I think the Texans secondary which is great.
I mean, they really held the Rams in check last week.
I think they can hold Buka and Evan's company, and
I think they get after Baker and I think the
Texans winning a low scoring game. I'll go like twenty
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seven thirteen, twenty seven to twenty Texans, something along those lines,
and then Chargers Raiders in what should be a good game.
I had to offer to go to this. However, there's
just no way to pull it off. Like I could
try to get the last flight out, but this kicks
off at seven Pacific, so if you're on the East Coast,
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you're kicking off at ten pm. Hey man, you have
to call in late for work Tuesday. Oh I forgot
about a dentist appointment. I had have to come in late.
I think this could be a really good game.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Brock Bowers is the guy to watch. He had the
knee injury. I think he practiced Saturday. If he's out,
I think this line goes up to four. I'm not
saying he's worth half a point, but all of a sudden,
Gino Smith loses his top target and it's going to
be just heavy dose of Jacobi Myers. I'll go Chargers.
I'm not betting this because I think the Raiders could
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prob cover. I would lean something along the lines of
Chargers thirty Raiders twenty seven. So if you made me better,
I would take the over and the Raiders. Maybe I'll
do a four fun parlay. It's a pizza money Raiders
getting points in the over. I do think there are
points here, unlike the Sunday night football game, which was
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no points, which I like to have in the Falcons. Rob,
are you on either of these games?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Not really, But I will say that. I love that
you are more in on the Raiders than I am.
Like that's great because, like when I saw the line
come out, it was at three and they moved of
the three and a half. My first thought is, you know, hey,
we're coming off a big win. This is going to
be a good spot for my Raiders. You know against
the Charger, we always play them tough, but we'll find
a way to be close, close, close, and then next
you know, like a late touchdown or a key interception,
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something's gonna go wrong where it ends up being a
seven eight point game instead. And that's been my feeling
as a Raider fan. But as you alluded to yourself,
several other high ranking sports media members and the sharps
in Vegas are really on the Raiders plus three and
a half. Like I was looking at bet MGM's numbers
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and it's basically fifty to fifty split with a lot
of the money coming in late from the sharps. So
I'm glad that you guys all see something in the
Raiders that I personally don't see. So I'm gonna stay
off of it because it's hard to bet against my heart,
but I would love to see the Raiders cover at
least COVI spread.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, there's not enough data on teams coming back from Brazil. Now,
they did get an extra day, but they also have
to travel, so it's I guess that's kind of mood.
But the Chiefs I didn't think looked great coming back
from Brazil. And if memory serves last year, the Eagles
struggled in Week two after their Brazil matchup. I don't
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remember what happened with to the Packers. That might have
been without Jordan Love, So we tossed it in the window,
out the window. But yeah, I think both games should
be interesting. It's just crazy how close and good and
fun a lot of these games are. It felt like
defense was optional. Remember how Unders dominated Week one? Everybody? Yeah,
they went four and ten so far in week two,
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So these things go back and forth. I interested with
some Week three gambling tidbits tomorrow obviously, well reaction to
the games. We'll talk to you then
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up, Drake Fire Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre.
Straight Fire for Monday, September the fifteenth. Whoa, somebody is
excited and I'm sure you guys are woo. We're recording
this after the Minnesota Vikings got trounced, my boy JJ McCarthy,
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who Rob is gonna go after a little bit later,
McCarthy did not look good behind him. Makeshift offensive line, Falcons,
run away and hide, easy dub for your boy. Two
and two in the contest. For me, pending the Houston
Texans tonight, I probably will lose sleep over the Denver
Broncos a couple nights this week. I thought that was
I'm still irate and hot over what transpired in that
(00:53):
game against the Colts, But I think we got to
start with you know, everybody's been trying to make them
America's team in the last few years because they've been
going to the Super Bowl and winning the Super Bowl,
and they've got Patrick Mahomes, they've got Taylor Swift's fiance,
they've got Andy Reid, they play in the heartland. The
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reality is the Kansas City Chiefs stink right now, guys,
And that's inarguable. You could tell me, yeah, they won
all these Super Bowls and you're just a hater and
your Jets suck, which is pretty much part for the
course anytime I mentioned the Chiefs. But the reality is
they stink. They're own to. They can't move the football,
the defense cannot get Keith stops. In the fourth quarter,
Chris Jones is talking trash to Jalen Hurts when you've
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lost the game. It's like over. They're taking a knee
and Chris Jones is talking trash to Jail and Hurts up.
So you guys saw the video, you could you barely
had one hundred yards of offense. I think he meant passing.
Jalen Hurts had one hundred and one yards passing. Who
cares they want? What's the goal to have two hundred
yards passing or win the football game? And Jalen Hurts
basically shut him up with we won the FN game.
(01:58):
You more on be quiet one of those. And the
video is awesome. I thought it was ai because you
rarely get to hear players trash talking like that. I mean, listen,
the Kansas Chiefs are zero and two Last year in
one score games, Casey was eleven and oh and route
to fifteen and two. This year in one score games,
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they are oh and two and I don't know what
they're gonna finish. Listen, they're not gonna fall off a
cliff and win five games that it's not gonna be
that bad short of a major injury to Mahomes. But guys,
here's what it's really scary. Go look at the Kansas
City Chiefs stats from last year. Go look at the
players that were picking up yards. It's almost identically the
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same dudes. It's still Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt. It's
still Kelsey and uh Jujuspath Schuster and Noah Gray. And
I don't know how much Hollywood Brown played last year,
but I know they got him. He might have been
injured all year. Taekwon Thornton is new Racehi Rice is
in Yere, but he wasn't here last year. He got
hurt early against the Chargers. The reality is this is
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basically the same unit, but they got stale. That's what's
going on with the Kansasity Chiefs. They're not a good
football team. Patrick Mahomes. When was the last time you
saw Mahomes miss somebody as wide open as Thornton was.
I mean that was an unbelievable miss. Nobody within like
six yards of Thornton and Mahomes overthrew them by like
five yards. Kansas City has no explosiveness on offense. They
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had the bomb to Thornton for the touchdown, which was
a great pass, no doubt about it. It was a few
plays after Mahomes had to miss, but essentially their run
game is nonexistent. I keep hearing, oh, this guy Josh Simmons,
the young Ohio State kid. Okay, sure, you know, he's
been an amazing hustle play to thwart what could have
been a one hundred yard pick six. But overall, Patrick
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Mahomes led them in rushing seven carries sixty six yards.
This isn't about the Eagles, who, by the way, they
don't look overpowering, but they're winning. They've got a strategy
and they follow it and it's working. It's not pretty,
but they're winning. I mean, essentially, on there were two
huge swing plays in this. One of them is the
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Chiefs bring the house. I think it's zero blitz and
Jalen Hurts reads it the line gives him just enough
time to chuck it up to DeVonta Smith and he
Devanta Smith was matched up one v one with their
best corner, Trent McDuffie. McDuffie doesn't recognize the ball. Smith
adjustin air, makes a catch first in goal like that.
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That was play number one, play number two. And this
is a tough one. And I know we said he's
now washed. He does lead the league in commercials. I
know he's planning a wedding. But Travis Kelce had a
pass at like the one yard line of the goal
line go off his hands. It was it hit both
of his hands. Now, maybe you could argue has a
(04:51):
little low, little off target. Bro, you're a professional football
player going to the Hall of Fame, making millions of
dollars a year. You have to catch when it hits
both your hands. The ball goes off his mits bounces
up right into the hands of an Eagle defender. I
don't even know. I don't really recognize the guy. Andrew Moukuba.
(05:12):
He is a rookie out of Toe. Oh, he's a
rookie out of Texas.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He picks it up and he goes back like forty yards,
just a huge swing. Chiefs are about to take the lead,
and then you know what happened after that. Obviously, the
Eagles get in moving down the field and score a
touchdown and they go up twenty ten, and then that's
a wrap. I mean, folks, football is a game of inches.
As we'll get to eventually probably with the Broncos and Colts.
(05:37):
Football is a game of inches in so many of
these games. I mean, Brandon Aubrey hits a sixty four
yard field goal, sixty four to send it into overtime, Like,
come on, that's crazy, mean, while the Broncos kicker, Yeah,
I'm still really pissed off the upright with like five
minutes left to go up five instead of two, and
(05:58):
you lose it. Like it's just so football is crazy,
and the bounces are not going Kansas City's way this year. Rob.
Last year they went Case's wait all season up until
the Super Bowl when they got exposed. Remember almost the
same group Rob fifteen to two last year. Not a
lot of different people. And now oh and two start.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, you know, Jason de quote, my favorite Kansas City
Chiefs super fan. I don't know about you, but I'm
feeling Oh and two like the everything that went well
for the Chiefs since, you know, for the last year
and a half has gone sideways. Entering this season, you
know this, the Chiefs had not lost a one possession
game since twenty twenty three. Okay, they have now lost
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two straight one possession games to open the season. They're
zero and two for the first times it's twenty fourteen,
the first time, of course, in the Mahomes era. The
last six times in their franchise history that they started
oh and two, they missed the postseason entirely. And you know,
across the NFL, not just in Kansas City, teams that
(07:05):
start out zero to two make the postseason at just
twelve percent chance. So it is not looking good for
Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey and company. And I
think you hit the nail on the head right off
the top. The issue is not necessarily the talent, because
it's the same team basically that they had last season, right,
and that team was even though we all agreed it
was a lot of fools gold, that team was good
(07:27):
enough to make a run of the Super Bowl, and
for me to even pick them to win that Super
Bowl just because they kept finding ways to win. They
kept finding ways to win. You lean on that experience,
You lean on Mahomes, you lean on Andy Reid, leon
on Chris Jones, and that defense coming up with the
keys stop here and there, and so you can't say
that it's just the personnel that's the problem. The problem
is right now as we head into week three, they
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don't have an identity. They don't know who they are.
I don't even know if they know who they're trying
to become right now, because the first two games have
been so polar opposite of the way they kind of work.
They worked out both ways. Patrick Mahomes. Leading your team
and rushing for two straight games tells me you cannot
run the ball, tells me you cannot be a physical
team up front. Tells me that that offensive line with
(08:10):
a new left tackle a new left guard is not
good enough right now to impose their will on the
opposing front and become a defense first run the ball,
Patrick Mahomes' money on third down type of team. They
just can't do it right. On the flip side, you said, hey,
we got what is supposed to be the best quarterback
(08:31):
in the NFL, supposed to be arguably the greatest quarterback
of all time. It shouldn't matter whose weapons are on
the outside. He should be good enough for us to
score twenty three, twenty five, maybe even twenty seven points
a game. And that's just not happening. The loss of
Rashi Rice is huge. We talked about before the season started,
(08:52):
even before we knew when exactly he was gonna be suspended.
You combine that with Xavier Worthy shoulder injury and suddenly.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Play yesterday Worthy, No, yeah, I didn't see.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No, no, he didn't play. But now suddenly you're looking on
the outside and you have again. We're not gonna call
him wash, but we're gonna say that he's pre soaking
gotta pre soak Travis Kelcey. You got Hollywood Brown, who
has not really been in an impactful receiver for three
or four years now, and a bunch of unproven guys
this side of maybe Juju Smith Schuster, who at this
(09:25):
point is like a journeyman wide receiver. And what you're
asking Patrick Mahomes to do is to become the guy
that he was three, four or five years ago, and
that guy's just not here anymore. He might be in
some metrics, depending on who you talk to. If you
talk to like the Dan Orlowski's or you know, the
Matt Hasselbacks of the world, they might say he's a
better quarterback now than he was when he first started
(09:47):
out against it. And that might be true, like just
in terms of playing the quarterback position, he might be
better now than he was then, But what he was
back then was explosive. What he was back then was, Hey,
if we're down ten, don't worry about it, because I'm
gonna find a way to hit some receiver. If it's
not Tyreek Hill, some guy who don't know who just
happens to be fast. I might hit a journeyman Sammy Watkins.
(10:08):
I might hit you know, a rookie Sky Moore for
a thirty five yard game. And suddenly we're bing bang
boom back in business. And they just can't do that anymore.
Like they are Nickel and dime, dunk and dunk. Their
biggest plays are when things break down and pass mahomes
escapes for fifteen twenty yards. So until they decide who
they want to be, or maybe more precisely, until they
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decide who they can be, because I think right now
they're still fishing and they're trying to figure out what
exactly their identity is gonna be. They're gonna struggle again.
I'm not saying they're gonna win five games like you said,
but you're not gonna see a good to great, you know,
contending type team until they figure out who they are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, whoever wins tonight, Chargers or Raiders will go up
two games on the Chiefs. And I know it's just
two games. And listen, case he has the Giants next week.
I'm looking at point spreads. I actually don't see it
as we're recording now. But on the look ahead, the
Chiefs who have to go on the road, so they
went Brazil home New York. The look aheadline, the Chiefs
(11:14):
were minus six and a half against Russell Wilson lit'ten.
Giants were frisky as hell on Sunday, so that'll be interesting.
And oh, by the way, their pass rush is really
something not to be trifled with. The back end is weak,
but they can get after the quarterback and Russ has
some explosiveness. Neighbors, I thought this was gonna be blow
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out city. I don't know. I don't think it's a lock.
And by the way, Ravens on deck. So there's a
great sandwich spot for the Chiefs, well, a terrible sandwich spot.
You go Eagles rematch and then the Giants who stink,
and then you have the Ravens who are your basically
your op speaking kid language robout. Your kids aren't hold
enough to say that, but oh that's my op. Yeah,
(11:56):
basically the Ravens the Chiefs to hate each other. I've
been battling for several years now, So listen, I like,
I'm gonna steal your line. I don't know about you.
I'm feeling I went to I'm we'll be stealing that
on the herd. Did you come up with that yourself?
Though you don't have to cap I know, I.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Mean, I didn't know if that was that creative. I
felt like that was kind of a low hanging fruit.
I feel like that's right there for everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Straight up genius Patrick Mahomes's first career three game losing streak.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
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Speaker 2 (12:32):
Second biggest stories of the day, and It's bad news
is Joe Burrow. You know, in the off season, I
wondered if if there's another injury to Brow, do we
start calling him Glass Joe because he's always hurt. Feels
like every other year Joe Burrow's going down. I mean
he's not These guys like Mahomes, Montana Brady, they never
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got hurt. Brady only missed one season with the with
the the ACL or. I think it's a c l
m CL got wrecked in Week one, missed the whole season,
but that was it. I mean, the guy played like
twenty years, never got hurt. Anyway, Go, Joe Burrow goes
down again. This one a toe And here's the crappy part.
Sound I didn't know there was such thing as a
Grade three turf toe injury. And he's gonna need surgery.
(13:18):
They're saying three months. So maybe he's back in early
December now. Jake Browning shout out to Jake Browning, Washington's finest.
He has shown really well replacing Joe Burrow. He did it.
I think it was was it two years ago? Yeah?
I did two years ago. Browning was very solid and
(13:40):
yesterday listen, I know he had the three picks and
he tried really really hard to give Jacksonville the game. Yeah,
Browning's been around. This is his third season. Yes, so
two last year he did not throw a pass, But
two years ago he played nine games, completed seventy percent
of his passes. Like, he was not awful, you know,
he was more than I believe. He was, Like in
(14:01):
the Heisman mix at Washington for like five minutes, but
he listened when Trevor Lawrence and I don't I don't
think we could do a midwek convo in Trevor Lawrence
rob but I was just disappointing. You know, I like
the Jags in that one. I did not have him
in the contest, but that game should have been the
Jag should have had that game. You go to the
red zone six friggin times four hundred yards of offense.
(14:24):
How do you not win that game? He had Lawrence
had a brutal end zone pick in the end zone,
then had another one basically in his own end that
just handed the Bengals points. And so Browning threw an
interception in his own end with five minutes left the
The Bengals were trailing. So at this point you're like, Okay,
(14:45):
here we go Trevor Lawrence could put them away. They
get a good road win, and Lawrence just didn't make
it happen. Fourth and five from the Bengals seven. You
can't kick up three to go up six, then you
definitely lose. So they went on fourth and five and failed,
and Jake Browning goes, are you ready for this? Fifteen
plays ninety two yards in three minutes of chains for
(15:08):
the touchdown. They had a fourth down conversion, a fourth
down pass interference call on the Jags, and the Bengals
get the win with Jake Browning and that's all nice
and good. Jamar Chase, how about this? Sixteen targets had
fourteen catches for a buck sixty five, I mean basically
force feeding Chase. He had fourteen catches. The other one two, three,
(15:29):
four or five six seven guys had fourteen catches. I mean,
Chase is a beast Jacksonville does not have. Now, I
haven't looked to see rob if Chase was eating up
Travis Hunter. But Chase went bonkers and the Bengals get
a fortunate win. So they're two to zero. Have not
looked good in either game. Have not been impressive defensively. Offensively,
(15:51):
they do travel to Minnesota this week. Now, Minnesota is
really beat up. They had they lost their center to
a concussion. I think like two other guys went down.
Minnesota is a mass unit. I think Browning has a
bit of a wake up call next week going on
the road to face the Brian Floores defense. Hopefully they
get Van Grinkle back or Van Ginkle. And then they
(16:12):
faced did Denver. So I know people are like, hey,
we're good with Jake Browning. We're all right, folks. You
have to face Minnesota's Brian Floores, great defensive coordinator. Then
Denver and they're great defensive unit, although Daniel Jones torched them.
Then you host the Lions, who could put up points.
Then it's at Green Bay. So this is a four
game stretch where Jake brown is gonna have to put
(16:33):
on his big boy pants and grow up fast. I
personally don't think he'll be up for the challenge. So
I don't know where you go from here with Joe Burrow,
Like you ken't. So I saw an analogy where it's
essentially like having I think you invested two hundred and
seventy five million dollars in Joe Burrow and then you
decided we're not going to get an offensive line to
(16:53):
protect him, and he's just running for his life every time.
On the play where he broke his toe or suffered
the turf toe injury, he was running for his life.
He's pivoting in the pocket like he's Michael Jackson, you know,
like the guy's dancing for his life. And ultimately he
went down and it was bad. He could barely walk
off on his own strength. Rob. I do think that
opens up you know, no disrespect to Browning. I think
(17:16):
it opens up a playoff spot in the AFC. I'm
still tinkering with who it helps, but my guess is
this greatly will help like a Chargers of Broncos, maybe
a Titans. I know they're rowing too, but I have
seen some things I like. But I don't think the
Bengals can get to the playoffs without Burrow for three months.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Hey, maybe it's the Colts. I know you don't have
high on Danny Dimes, but you know, maybe it's the Colts.
Maybe it's the Maybe they sneak in just as far
as the Colt of the Bengals. First, before we get
to Joe Burrow. I like Jake Branngle. I think it's
a really good quarterback. And to your point that these
next four games are kind of brutal, So save for
Minnesota and you'll get to JJ mccarth a little bit later,
(17:53):
but those next three at Dnver homework to destroy at
Green Bay is basically a murder Isroe. But then you
look after that and it's, hey, we got Pittsburgh Jets, Bears,
Pittsburgh Patriots. So there is a little sandwich in there
where you can kind of get right again and see
what happens. Because Joe Burrow has missed fourteen games as
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an NFL starter. In games that he's out, the Cincinnati
Bengals are two games under five hundred. Obviously they're much
different team. They They scored just under twenty points, so
it's not like they're the same team. Of course, Night'
not even this same without Joe Burrow. But if they
can go whatever six and six, five and seven. This
(18:34):
is one of those weird situations where I know they
haven't looked good at all, but historically in the Taylor era,
they're like one of the worst September teams period, not
just for good teams, like they're were of the worst
teams like with my Raiders and with your Jets, and
with the Bears and the Jags, Like they're that bad
of a team historically in September in the Taylor era,
(18:54):
So for them to start out two and zero kind
of puts them on a springboard a little bit where
if they can just continue to get better, which is
what they always do under Taylor, Like as the season
goes on, they're usually playing their best football come December.
If they can kind of treadwater a little bit and
hopefully Joe Burrow gets a second opinionHe they say it'stad'swelve weeks,
maybe it's eight. Maybe there's no surgery and it's an
(19:17):
extensive rehabit, some kind of walking, but I don't know
what it is. But it is possible for them to
still come around and Thanksgiving and they're, you know, on
the periphery, like they're right there, ready to sneak into
a postseason spot if they shake their way. As far
as Joe Burrow, you mentioned, you know, the injury history.
I think we've talked about this before in the podcast.
(19:38):
Here's Joe Burrow's injury history going back to college right
twenty seventeen, breaks a bone in his throwing hand twenty twenty, Yes,
twenty twenty tears rib cartilage in the College Football Playoff
Championship Game. Now, obviously it didn't matter because they blew
him out anyways, but he did get hurt there. Twenty
(20:00):
as a rookie in the NFL torn ACL MCL twenty
twenty two, ruptured appendix, twenty twenty three, calf strain which
I people worried about the Achilles for a long time,
and then twenty twenty three season ends with a torn
ligament in his wrist. Now, at first glance, you look
at these injuries say, hey, they're all different. None of
them are really related. It's not like he has a
recurring foot issue, not like he has a recurring shoulder
(20:20):
issue that we've got to be concerned about. But it
does tell you that either because of his style of
play or maybe he's just one of those guys who's
injury prone, but he's gonna be nicked up more often
than not, and it's something you have to bake into
your expectations if you're a Cincinnati moving forward. Maybe there
is a way I have to look at the contracts.
Maybe there's a way where they say, hey, we know
(20:43):
we gave Chase and Higgins these big deals. Maybe there's
a way we can get out of the t Higgins
deal a year earlier, or maybe we can get off
of in some kind of trade, because us having two
primetime wide receivers is not helping our quarterback right now,
because we need to keep him upright first and foremost
we're gonna any chance of making any noise in the AFC.
So this might be, I know it sounds we are
(21:05):
some kind of blessing in disguise for Cincinnati because it's
going to force them. I feel like to really reevaluate
the way they build their team because they're building it
from the outside end, and you know, anybody who's played
football or covered football will tell you that is the
exact opposite of what you should be doing. They have
all the fun toys, they have all the gadgets, they
have all the icing. They don't have them beating the potatoes.
(21:26):
They don't got the steak.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't exactly know if if that was one of
the best games of the day. My daughter is doing
all this volleyball stuff right now. So I was at
this volleyball event watching on red Zone on my phone,
so I wasn't as dialed in with like the stats.
I had to go, you know, research every game. I
don't know if that was a good game or a
bad game when the quarterbacks combined for five interceptions, but
(21:50):
I do know Giants Cowboys, which was all over red
zone because the fourth quarter was unbelievable. Forty one points
in the fourth quarter. I mean I have it as one, two, three,
four or five lead changes in the fourth quarter. It
was like Giants Cowboys. Giants torched the Cowboys deep Wandale
Robbins had fourth down touchdown catch. I was so pissed
because I had the Cowboys obviously in a survivor and
(22:13):
I had them in pick them pools and I bet
them they did not cover. And then the Pickings touchdown.
I'm like, all right, we're good, we got this, and
the neighbors deep over the top. Russell Wilson was freaking incredible.
Four hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns. Here's the
weird part. At one point I'm watching with these two
dads who had their own phone, and they're like, wait,
Jackson Dart was in rob do you why did Jackson
(22:34):
Dart go in for one play.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I didn't even catch that part because by then my
feet had already switched over to the Eagles and Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay, So I didn't know if Russ was ineffective or whatever.
I'm like, he seemed to be cooking, and so maybe
it was just like a helmet issue or whatever. Neighbors
went off. The Giants had five hundred and six yards. Now,
I know Deron Bland didn't play, but come on, five
hundred and six yards seven point eight yards were played
for the Giants. I is it Cowboys defense that bad?
(23:03):
Here's the weird thing, rob. So last week the Eagles
barely through the football barely. This week the Cowboys get gashed,
not on the ground but through the air. So it's like,
can they stop anyone? They couldn't stop the Eagles run,
couldn't stop the Giants pass. I don't know. This is
not good. Oh by the way, the Cowboys were kind
(23:24):
of bailed out because the Giants had fourteen penalties for
one hundred and sixty yards and were one for five
in the red zone. So like you add all this
stuff together and it's like, what on earth is this?
I don't really know what the Giants are but it
kind of Rob feels like Brian Dable is not gonna
go down swinging. I think we would all agree he's
(23:46):
in trouble. The schedule is difficult. They're gonna need to
steal any game they can. I would say, I like
to fight from the Giants, you know, like they did.
They could have rolled over and just said we're trash
or it's over. I thought that was an impressive showing,
even though they didn't get to win. And of course
Cowboys fans see this and they're like, oh, all right,
we got we got something cooking here. Oh my gosh,
dak three hundred and sixty yards Brandon Aubrey greatest kicker
(24:09):
ever in the history of the sport. But it's not
like Dallas was impressive, Rob. This was like some This
felt like a Big twelve game from two thousand and seven,
where it was like Patrick Mahomes doing for like six
hundred yards and scoring sixty points in losing.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You know, yeah, I gotta I gotta pull back to Clonel,
But I gotta be honest with you, Okay. When this
game was going on, before my TV had switched, I
saw the big touchdown there in the final minute to
milk Neighbors, Right, yeah. I immediately shared the video of
my social media handles and I said, one step closer
(24:43):
to the NFC East Crown at Giants when I tell you,
I had a tweet and delete that thing in about
thirty five seconds. And I felt like it, like a
Jack asked me, because you know, I'm all in on
the Giants this season.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I believe last.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Year was the Jets, right, yes, and that this year
you just wan to New York I do I guess,
I just admit it. I was feeling it. I was like, Hey,
the Giants are gonna the defensive front is great. Eventually
they're gonna make the switch over to Jackson Dark and
they are gonna steal that division at eleven and six
and then they went full Giants. They did it again.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You mentioned the penalties, and as bad as the penalties were, right,
the Giants, according to ESPN win Analytics, had an eighty
seven percent chance of winning the game when Neighbors caught
that touchdown with twenty five seconds, and they found a
way to lose it anyway. But to your point with Dallas,
I don't know how you feel great about that game,
(25:40):
because according to ESPN, you had an eighty seven percent
chance of losing that game at home against what should
be an inferior opponent, at least according to you. Guys,
like that defense is horrible and I don't think Jadavian
clown is gonna do much to save it, even though
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Kenny Clark, how about Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark stopped the run? Yeah,
really bottled up Tyrone Tracy that helped out.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, Cam Scatted was scoring touchdowns on you.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like, how about Scatt? He's a scat MASKI I have
a kind of a fan of just that lyric. I
don't like care for them.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I mean, and you know, I'm not going to give
up hope yet with my Giants, But because you know,
the the defense, the whole nfcast so far does not
look great. The Eagles are two and no, but you
mentioned it. They haven't looked great in neither of those
two games. The Cowboys should be zero and two, and
Washington just had their doors blown off by Green Bay.
So maybe when Jackson Dark gets thrown into the fire
(26:34):
here in about a week, you know, I'll have something
to fill optimistic about. But then, looking at Jeremy Fowler's
article that came out on Thursday of last week. He's
reporting that despite what we all think, and we all
think that the team, Jackson Dart is their best quarterback
on the roster right now, point blank period. He's of
the opinion his sourcing is telling them that Brian Dayball
(26:56):
and Joe Shane are like, no, we're not going to
put him in until he is ready to succeed. Whether
he's the best quarterback on the roster right now is
immaterial because they view him in like the Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen Vain where it's like, we want him to
be the best quarterback three, five, seven years from now,
and to hell with whatever's going on in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
A little goofy, But I can understand getting optimistic. I mean,
I guess I understand.
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Speaker 2 (27:37):
There's no point in talking about the New York Jets.
They got smashed. All the excitement from last week it
was out the window, and you know, it was kind
of rob again, I'm not doing anything on this game.
The Jets were zero for eleven on third down, Justin
Fields got concussed fields and Tyrod Taylor combined for like
fifty four net passing yards. Josh Allen did nothing. He
(27:59):
had no touchdown. This is how the game went, and
it was over in like eight minutes. Jets three and out,
Bill's touchdown drive, Fields fumbles on the first play, Bills
get a field goal, Jets punt Bill's field goal, Jets
three and out. James Cook incredible touchdown run. I have
him in Fantasy twenty to zero. And at that point
the Jets had a total of like eleven yards and
(28:20):
it was game over, like it was twenty to nothing
Bills and the Jets had eleven yards, and every all
these sharps who were like, you gotta bet the Jets here,
I am not gonna lie. I did get him at six,
which was dumb. It was stupid. The Buffalo Bills are
vastly superior the game. I do want to talk about
rob before we get to best bets for tonight. I'm
not gonna talk about Kyler Murray and Arizona just nearly
gagging against Carolina. But I've just just because I was
(28:43):
pot committed to Denver. Okay, the Denver Broncos right now,
just a colossal letdown for me losing to the Colts.
Let's get this out of the way. The culture too
and zero. Everybody's geek for Shane Stike and Daniel Jones.
They're gonna be one of the bigger stories on Monday
and Tuesday. You could just tell the media is like
happy for the Colts, you know, like, hey, indies, two
(29:05):
and oh, Like this is me making like the jack
Off motion, like give me a break, Come on, guys,
So what that they're two and oh. They beat Miami,
who looks like argue about bottom three team in the league,
and they get lucky as hell to beat the Broncos.
This was their game winning drive where Stichen who and
this is again the Margins. Rob Stichen is being hailed as,
(29:26):
oh my gosh, he's two and oh with Daniel Jones.
He's found Daniel Jones. Guys, if they don't get bailed
out by some bullshit call, I think that hell, they
called leg wrench, that's what the referee said. I was like,
leg wrench. I've never heard that in NFL game in
my life. So the Stikeen settles for a sixty yard
(29:47):
field cold, I see you don't have Brandon Aubrey on
the sideline, okay, but he essentially just kept running into
the line of scripage. It was like, oh, we're good
from sixty. The guy shanks a sixty yarder. I'm celebrating.
My kids are like, oh, I didn't know you like
the Broncos. And then all of a sudden there's a
flag and they got at leg Rents. I'm like, what
the hell? But it was not just like a five
yarder fifteen yards. So now sixty becomes forty five. I mean, chuck.
(30:12):
The guy drills a forty five and I am irate. Okay,
just remember the New Orleans Saints started last year two
and zero and how did that? Where did that get them?
So Ian Rapaport got the or some guy who covers
the Broncos got the referee explanation from this nonsense call.
(30:34):
So the referee said, for leverage, as a defender, you're
not allowed to place your hand on an opponent or
a teammate and push off to propel yourself into the
air to block a kick. In this case, number ninety
two blah blah blah, and that's a fifteen yard penalty,
So just let that sink in. You're not allowed to
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place your hand on an opponent or a teammate and
push off to propel yourself in the air. You can't
just run up and push off the guy and jump. Folks,
what on earth do you think they're doing? On literally
every block kick attempt, you're jostling and then you're trying
to like get as high as you can. And again,
there are a million examples of this not being called.
(31:17):
And if you go look online, you see that this
is never this is so rarely called. Okay, they call
it on a game missing field goal from sixty and
it's fifteen yards, and like that's when you would LIKECT
to enforce it. It's it's not quite what is it?
Rob Is it a carry? It's like it's essentially like, oh,
(31:37):
Kyrie Irving has five seconds to go to win the game,
Kyrie Irving makes a great move, hits the game winner,
and then they call a carry on Kyrie Irving like
there would be an outrage and an investigation, like, give
me a break, I carry. This is just such a
bad call that being said, the Broncos did blow this
game multiple times. Bo Nicks. Listen, he's had a rough
(31:58):
start to the season. His numbers were good, twenty two
thirty for two, five three touchdowns. Fourth quarter, you're up.
I forget how much they were up. It might have been. Yeah,
I think they were up too, with like eleven minutes left,
and bow Knicks is like third and three from inside
the thirty yard line. So it's like, Okay, if we
(32:18):
get the first down, awesome. Otherwise we'll just kick the
field goal. We have points. Bow Knicks decides to play
hero and chuck it deep and he's way off from
the receiver. It's intercepted, Like, what are you doing, bro
throw it away? You know, you scramble out of bounds,
kick the field You had points, so fine, whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
They screw that up.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The next time they get the ball because the Colt
turn over on downs, the Broncos have a chip shot
field goal from forty two yards out and Lutz, who's good,
hits the upright and at that moment I knew, I'm
totally effed. And again, I know it's just one game.
Jason's settled down, but it's like, I mean, when you
have them and you lose them, Rob, that that would
(32:58):
hurt I just I you know, let me get the
positives out of the way for like the eighteen Colts
fans out there. The Colts have not punted through two games.
I'm ngl. Jonathan Taylor went off one hundred and sixty
five yards. Daniel Jones was good. He's making throws. It
was I remember there was like a third and five
and Daniel Jones is not picking on Patrick's curtain, but
he just didn't care. He went at Cirtana, they got
(33:19):
the first down. I was like, okay, I mean Jones
is delivering. Now it's two games. Eventually enough stuff's gonna
get put on tape that we're gonna defenses will figure
out Jones. Now the alternative, Rob, If you want to
be positive, glass half full. Hey, Jay, you know what,
Baker Mayfield just needed to find his guy. Sam Darnold
(33:42):
needed to find Kevin O'Connell. It can happen. You can
get the resurrection of these quarterbacks. Daniel Jones was garbage
for most of his career, but now he's what five
years in, It's like, maybe he's good. I don't know.
I need a little more than two games. Especially after
seeing the Saints go to Ando last year and then
shitting the bed the rest of the way. Just for
the record, the Colts they face, they're at Tennessee now,
(34:06):
so they have to leave the friendly confines go outdoors
against Tennessee. I love Tennessee. This past week, I know
the box score or the final score says they got
blown out, folks. Tennessee was down twenty to sixteen to
the Rams and had the ball with eleven minutes left,
like that was a four point game. In the fourth quarter,
(34:27):
back and forth, nip and tuck, and then cam Moore
gets sacked fumbles, Rams score a touchdown, three and out,
Rams score a touchdown. That's a rap, but that was again.
The Titans are gonna be frisky. I'm gonna tell you
right now, the Titans are winning this game next week.
I'll bet them again. But I don't know, Robert, go ahead.
Maybe I'm going too overboard on this Broncos penalty bullshit.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, you just sound like a guy who got burned
with the bad beat. That's all it is. Like, I
get it. I know you lost some money on then,
that's why you're so upset. I feel like you buried
the lead though, and because it's technically now Monday on
the East Coast here as we record this podcast, I
don't feel like I'm gonna be smited for saying this.
He has risen and his name is Daniel Jones, Indiana Jones.
(35:09):
Danny Times is back, Baby, the resurrection is here. Like
you're glossing over something that I like, I don't know
why you're doing this. Is it because of what happened
with the Saint thing? You don't want to admit what
you're watching right now?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Would you be as excited if they missed the sixty
yard field goal? They're one and one and it's I
just feel like the whole narrative shifts on a penalty.
That's fine, Like, I don't think you'd be talking up
Daniel Jones if they missed that sixty yard Why wouldn't I?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Why would I not have Daniel?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
He couldn't bring them down the.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Field, Daniel Jones, you mentioned they haven't punted yet through
the first two games. Right through for the first two
games here, both wins against you know, Miami sucks, but Denver,
who I believe is gonna be a very good team
at the end of the season. Forty five of sixty
three five eighty, which I believe is second in the
NFL heading into Monday Night, seventy one percent completion percentage,
(36:04):
two touchdowns, no picks, three more rushing touchdowns, passer rating
of one to eleven, and a QBR of eighty one. Like,
what more do you want from him? What more you
looking for from the Vanilla vick? All Right? It is
possible he's not the way too many it is possible
that he's not great, right, and the history says that
(36:27):
Daniel Jones is not a good quarterback. But we have
seen it. You mentioned it, Sam Darnold last season. We thought,
after week two, after Week four, after week seven, Yeah,
the numbers look good, but he's not great, they're not
any good. Like it's going to fall apart at some point,
and eventually it did. But by the time it fell apart,
they were already a playoff team and they were in
(36:47):
the postseason. Why can this not happen in Indiana, Indianapolis?
Why can Danny Dimes and Shane Steike and not have
this beautiful marriage that leads to him unlocking all the
potential that he's always had. Like people who even the
most negative people towards Daniel Jones can admit that he
has tools, that he has some athleticism, right, he has
(37:08):
a good enough arm, He's a big guy, is strong.
He just could not play the quarterback position to save
his life. And he was a turnover machine anytime the
lights got bright. What if all it took was him
getting out of New York and the spotlight has come
with that and not being on primetime national TV four
or five times a season. Maybe it took him going
to a nondescript franchise like the Colts where he can
(37:31):
eat up some teams, ride a ten and seven, eleven
and six type team into the postseason, and then we'll
see what happens. But right now, Daniel Jones is playing
at like a top five quarterback in the NFL. And
I don't know why it's so hard for you to
admit that.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
That's two games, Like, come on, yeah, okay, do you
think he's a top five quarterback?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
He's playing like one?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay again, He's defense is legit, he carved him up.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Is playing better than Patrick Mahomes?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh, he's had too much better games than Patrick?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Is he even after that crazy Week one? Is he
not currently playing better than Josh Allen. Because now Josh
Allen broke his nose on Sunday. I know that's an excuse,
but he did not look good at all on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, yeah, it's weird. They didn't really need him. I mean, listen,
I don't know how. I don't how tough is it
to play football with a broken nose? Is he gonna
need a new mask?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
He might have to wear a viser when he plays
next week.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
He's gonna need it. Like it looked like it was
easy for the guy to get his hand in there
and break his nose. Here, here's another stat for your boy, Dan,
Dan Vanilla vic Indiana Jones or whatever. So the Broncos
decided to blitz Daniel Jones a lot, right he was
he had. He went sixteen or twenty five for two
sixty five in a touchdown. That's pretty damn good against
(38:47):
the blitz. So, I mean, yes, he's been amazing. How
much longer will this last? I don't freaking know. I'm
just trying to let's see here. Yeah, I think that's
pretty much those are the Oh oh, we gotta do
this real quick. Since Rob is a UCLA fan. Oh god,
they fired your You guys lost a New Mexico, Oh
(39:09):
my gosh on Saturday. So I played pickup hoops Sunday
morning with a guy who played. He was a linebacker
in New Mexico, like all conference, and I was like, oh, dude, Cody,
were you at the game. He's like, Oh, I brought
my family. A bunch of my other teammates were there.
It was amazing. And he's like telling us about to
see the UCLA fans are just like destitute. It's like, bro.
So they fired the coach Sunday morning. They waited for
(39:30):
NFL games to kick off. I think it was like,
I guess one oh five technically U Eastern time. They
decided to fire him, which is smart. Foster was a
disaster from his intro press conference. But I am curious,
like is this even a good job Because they've been
down for a while. The school has high academic standards.
(39:53):
I don't know if football really matters to them anymore.
And I don't know how easy of a turnaround this
is gonna be. All that being said, UCLA is a
beautiful campus. It might be the best camp, most beautiful
campus I've ever been to. I've been to you know,
many campuses around the country, but I've spent some time
over there and I absolutely love it. It's not a hard
(40:16):
sell at all. Right, if you're trying to get recruits
out there, I don't maybe the high academic standards make
it difficult, but rob they got to fix this. I don't.
Is this a good job.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
No, it's not a good job. And I'm saying that
as a UCLA fan who's been to more games than
I can count over the last ten years. But it's
really quite simple. Number One, they play in the Big Ten,
which is the best conference in football. So right off
the bat, your best season, your best team you're ever
gonna have is probably like the sixth seven seven best
(40:47):
team in your conference, just right off rip. That's the
way it is coaching UCLA. That's number one. Number two,
you don't have the A and M Texas tech level
nil contributions. That does not that UCLA.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It doesn't even re elective.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's not a big one. And for that matter, it
doesn't really exist that much at US either. Like you know,
because some guys I know you talked to Colin a lot.
The USC sells its brand, right, they sell that, they
sell southern California, but they don't have the deep pockets
like some of these other schools do at all. And
UCLA is the stepchild at USC You can get that.
Regard number three, The fan base, you know, Present company excluded,
(41:28):
is indifferent on the football program. My brothers and I
try to go to at least one game all of
us together every season, but other than that, we spread
it out. I'll go to one brother goes to a
couple whatever. We were texting the group chat on Thursday
last week, Hey, you know, we can get tickets on
the thirty five yard line for tomorrow night's game against
New Mexico for six dollars. Hey, maybe we should do that,
(41:51):
and we really talked about it. The problem is, you know,
we all got kids, and it was kind of tricky
to make it all work, so we'ld end up doing it.
But the fact that you could get tickets on the
thirty five for six dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Probably more expensive to park, right.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
It Basically, yeah, the uber ride would have cost like
five times that, you know what I mean? Like, what
are we doing? And last, but not least, this might
be the biggest issue that no one's even talking about.
But shout out to Stu Mandel. I think he's been
on the radio show at least don't know about the podcast.
He reported over the weekend that UCLA's athletic department has
operated at a two hundred million dollar deficit over the
(42:25):
last six years. What kind of coach is going to
come into a situation knowing in the world that we
live in today in college football, that you don't have
the money to compete, you don't have the fan base
that's going to get you riled up, you don't have
an nil collective that's worth talking about. And most importantly,
you're playing in the best conference in football, which means
(42:45):
your best team is probably winning eight games maximum.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
But you should be able to get a collective going.
A lot of smart, wealthy people went to UCLA. It
should not be that hard.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Right, But they don't care about football like that. Here.
This is not Texas, this is not the sound.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
If you can convince them maybe hey, that's a tall
or maybe you convince them to if you build it,
they will come. All right, we're running out of time.
We're running out of time real quick. Two Monday night
football games. I'm sure wives all over the country are
absolutely thrilled at this, especially after Sunday Rob's Raiders and
(43:22):
Chargers that are the nightcap, the early game kicking off
at for Eastern. How about good is that four o'clock
Pacific Bucks at Texans. I am loaded up on the
Texans minus two and a half. If it doesn't hit,
I will be very somber. I have him in the
contest every which way. I think the Texans defense is
dominant here. I'm I don't think Tristan Wurfs will play.
(43:44):
It sounds like he's headed more to play in week three.
You don't want to rush him back and then re
injure anything. And I think the Texans secondary which is great.
I mean, they really held the Rams in check last week.
I think they can hold Buka and Evan's company, and
I think they get after Baker and I think the
Texans winning a low scoring game. I'll go like twenty
(44:07):
seven thirteen, twenty seven to twenty Texans, something along those lines,
and then Chargers Raiders in what should be a good game.
I had to offer to go to this. However, there's
just no way to pull it off. Like I could
try to get the last flight out, but this kicks
off at seven Pacific, so if you're on the East Coast,
(44:29):
you're kicking off at ten pm. Hey man, you have
to call in late for work Tuesday. Oh I forgot
about a dentist appointment. I had have to come in late.
I think this could be a really good game.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Brock Bowers is the guy to watch. He had the
knee injury. I think he practiced Saturday. If he's out,
I think this line goes up to four. I'm not
saying he's worth half a point, but all of a sudden,
Gino Smith loses his top target and it's going to
be just heavy dose of Jacobi Myers. I'll go Chargers.
I'm not betting this because I think the Raiders could
(44:59):
prob cover. I would lean something along the lines of
Chargers thirty Raiders twenty seven. So if you made me better,
I would take the over and the Raiders. Maybe I'll
do a four fun parlay. It's a pizza money Raiders
getting points in the over. I do think there are
points here, unlike the Sunday night football game, which was
(45:22):
no points, which I like to have in the Falcons. Rob,
are you on either of these games?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Not really, But I will say that. I love that
you are more in on the Raiders than I am.
Like that's great because, like when I saw the line
come out, it was at three and they moved of
the three and a half. My first thought is, you know, hey,
we're coming off a big win. This is going to
be a good spot for my Raiders. You know against
the Charger, we always play them tough, but we'll find
a way to be close, close, close, and then next
you know, like a late touchdown or a key interception,
(45:47):
something's gonna go wrong where it ends up being a
seven eight point game instead. And that's been my feeling
as a Raider fan. But as you alluded to yourself,
several other high ranking sports media members and the sharps
in Vegas are really on the Raiders plus three and
a half. Like I was looking at bet MGM's numbers
(46:08):
and it's basically fifty to fifty split with a lot
of the money coming in late from the sharps. So
I'm glad that you guys all see something in the
Raiders that I personally don't see. So I'm gonna stay
off of it because it's hard to bet against my heart,
but I would love to see the Raiders cover at
least COVI spread.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, there's not enough data on teams coming back from Brazil. Now,
they did get an extra day, but they also have
to travel, so it's I guess that's kind of mood.
But the Chiefs I didn't think looked great coming back
from Brazil. And if memory serves last year, the Eagles
struggled in Week two after their Brazil matchup. I don't
(46:45):
remember what happened with to the Packers. That might have
been without Jordan Love, So we tossed it in the window,
out the window. But yeah, I think both games should
be interesting. It's just crazy how close and good and
fun a lot of these games are. It felt like
defense was optional. Remember how Unders dominated Week one? Everybody? Yeah,
they went four and ten so far in week two,
(47:07):
So these things go back and forth. I interested with
some Week three gambling tidbits tomorrow obviously, well reaction to
the games. We'll talk to you then
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Jason McIntyre
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