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March 20, 2025 • 42 mins

More than 50 universities are being investigated for alleged racial discrimination as part of Trump's campaign to end DEI programs that his officials say exclude white and Asian students.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speaks to the planet. I'll go by the name of
Charlamagne Tha God. And guess what, I can't wait to
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(00:45):
Ye say, don't want to ask you a question?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Real good, Let's just keep a real straight shot with
no chase. So I'm gonna get a little bit rougher.
I'm here for it those who really believed in the
American process. All of us street shot chase with your
girl tessel figure out on the Black Effect podcast. Networking
was having everybody straight shot, no chaser tesselaing figure out
here with Marcellus and Jade is back. Decided to pull

(01:20):
up and join us. I had, Hey, it's like to
be back. You know, I had to take a mental
health break. That's right, to protect your peace's.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I had to. I said, you know what, let me
just go ahead, and you know, poured the wool over
my eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
And that's right, it's nothing like it. And we and
one thing we got down is protecting peace. That's one
thing they.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Ain't got it down here because I ain't got no chance,
no time for it.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I remember Hillary Clinton said, I've always appreciate that quote
when they add when she went through everything she went through,
and they said, how did you keep from losing your mind?
And she said, I didn't have time to lose my mind.
I literally didn't have time on had time. Yeah that's me.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Too much stuff for me, yea, I wish, but nah,
it's so cool.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know. Testling is expanding so oh so many moving pieces.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm just great yeah, do a lot of that work.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And a couple of times I had other things that
were scheduled doing straight shot in our chat set, so
I was like, dang, I wanted to come in and
especially get a all time it's update from our sellers.
What's going on. So I'm glad to be back. Yeah, No,
I'm glad you're back to you are flawless. Were being
available and doing the work and doing all of that

(02:46):
and that's why you know we're shipping and get it done.
And matter of fact, you know, this is a side note.
This is totally just having casual conversation, like we're not
recording the podcast, but y'all should can do it on
the pot. This is and y'all podcasts. Y'all should just
know y'all just sitting in the living room with us talking.
I'm getting ready to straighten Isaac Hayes on something. You know,

(03:07):
he just I love straightening him every chance I get.
He just made a post about, you know, black journalism
is dead, and you know people need a black journal
need to write their own stories and just copying and pasting,
and you know, I went there Jay and said, well
where's the funding? You know, because it really needs it
to say. You know, I'm saying this because you just
said so many missing many many pieces, no moving parts,

(03:28):
and where's the funding, Isaac? Because it's easy to sit
back and say, well, y'allhould be writing your original stories.
Black media and black editorial departments, we don't have it
like that to write every single story. Who's going to
do the investigation, who's gonna do the reporting, Who's gonna
do so a lot of times we have to get
our sources. I'm the white sources. So you don't know
what you're talking about, Isaac. Oh no, no, no, they just

(03:50):
copy and past. I said, well, I'm just telling you
based upon the news actually working in a real newsroom
and what the reality is when you are a black newsroom.
We just had a meeting to day. Jay was a
part of of actually really trying to pull these stories together.
What can we afford to write? What can we cannot
afford to write? From a funding standpoint? So, Isaac, everybody

(04:11):
don't have ten million dollars whatever he say he raising
on a monthly basis, allegedly, we don't have that. So
we're doing the best that we can. So I will
be I think when I get done recording this, I
think I'm go live and do a little bit of straightening.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Straightening, right, we ain't got it.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
We ain't got it Isaac. And when is Isaac gonna?
I still ain't seen him on the list for the
town hall.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh okay, he's in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, he's in Atlanta. He's say ask me a million
times to come show up at fan base, show up
and get my three ninety nine to be an investor.
So I'm looking for him at the town hall.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
So support is supposed to be neutral. It's a mutual.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Exactly at Isaac. So we're looking, we're looking for you.
I'll be telling people in the car in the comments,
why you ain't over on Fairbass. Now, y'all go over
there and tell Isac we ain't gonna get tickets to
the town hall because we meant yep, we ain't seeing
him at town hall. That's right. Feller's literally gonna be
at the door. Marcella's is gonna be taking names at
that door, you know, marceialis Patty, He's gonna take names.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
And the time of arrival, all right, don't and don't
say no I came. I ain't seen you don't try
to tell that lie.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's right that after Cliff, who's in a group chat yesterday,
said something, but I don't care what Marcela said about you.
Marcel said, now, don't get put out for line now
before old Cliff, don't play games like that. Don't keep kiing.
Marcel's bouting no lives and who said this and who
said what the Cliff, I'm like, oh, you don't know, Marcell,

(05:45):
don't really like playing like that. You gotta go find
another joke. Don't get the flying on people's name brand.
We like the seats and all of that.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
So you know he he don't have here, but had
something too much to drink that day.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Welcome y'all to the show. We're gonna cover a couple
of and you know s. I've been getting a lot
more lately of people in like them. Uploads don't go
up on time. I've been gettingeople going over the upload.
I ain't got the other white listening. Trying to get
some digital discipline up in there. Then, so shout out

(06:20):
to everybody. I guess maybe after doing this for five years,
maybe somebody listening, you know, got it been and with it.
I'm all right with it. Jay tell us about this
marines and razor bump story. This is a very important

(06:42):
story to Jay that she wanted to bump up at
at the top of the show. Yeah, I wanted to
do this, Okay, So a lot of really fascinating news stories.
So today I came across this story that Black Enterprise
put out saying Black marines with razor bumps could be

(07:06):
kicked out of the military due to a new policy.
And the rules were implemented after the Defense Secretary ordered
a review of military grooming standards. All right, now, razor
bumps are very painful, they're visible, and they're embarrassing enough.
But could you imagine being a US marine going through

(07:27):
all of that rigorous training, taking a vow and an oath,
and putting your life on the line, and a new
policy like this comes across your desk. So, yep, this
new policy that was introduced where marine suffering from pseudo
pholiculitis barbie or PFB for sure, that's the name of

(07:50):
the condition. A painful and scarring tissue. Excuse me, a
painful and scarring skin condition caused by shaving could face
dismissal if the condition does not improve within a specific
time frame, and that time frame is actually ninety days
according to this new policy.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So here's the background on PFB.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Commonly known as razor bomps is an inflammatory reaction of
the hair follicle, primarily causing primarily caused by shaving, and
so this condition disproportionately affects black men, potentially impacting their
presence in the Marines. Right, So, marcellis, I know you
stay going to the barber shop, you stay fresh and

(08:32):
clean looking. It's always nice. You know, you have a
great skincare regiment, your haircare regiment. I'm just wondering, like,
do you suffer from razor bombs?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I would say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I think that's a ridiculous policy. I mean, they put
their life on the line. So I understand what's the
big deal about the razor bubs? Like, how does that
affecting them putting a life on the line.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It ain't. Again, this is we gotta find ways to
get y'all negro let's just name it. We gotta find
ways to get negroes out of everything. At this point,
as a veteran h they are very particular on grooming.
You know, if people and I'm gonna be and this
is not me. This and the brothers and nothing like that.

(09:22):
So there's two things I want to look at. One
the overall negroes y'all get, because this is the issue
that people just have. It's not even like even I
know people that have a serious problem with it from
a chemical standpoint, you know, not from just in cleaning
good or use alcohol. You know, just some people just
really have it bad. So I want to sit the

(09:43):
conspiracy side apart. I'm gonna deal with that in a minute,
because I do believe it is a part of a
larger thing. But I do want to say, just from
a veteran standpoint on grooming those types of things, I
don't I know there was no policy as far as
acting on face with those types of things, but your hair,
your hair being up, a clean shade for men, all

(10:06):
of that. And if we're just being honest, I have
seen some people with real bad razor bumps, and I
don't know if this is their way of trying to
get people to try to do something about it, to
try to because again, the real bad ones can be
a hygiene issue, you know, not to have bad hygiene.

(10:26):
But you know, I can't I can see where it
can be a issue just because I know how the
military is about wanting everything to be clean, everything to
be uniformed. I don't mean clean like sanitary. I just
mean you know, clean neck, clean shavee, clean neck, you know,
had appropriate looking you know, the marine had the best dress,

(10:48):
you know, in your best dress. All of that is
an issue, which is why you know, braise the issue.
Hair on the neck is the issue. All of that
which tends to sometimes conflict with black people, you know,
and what we might be allergic to or issue you know,
like the razor bumps, wearing our hair braided, getting braid,

(11:10):
you know, sweating braids, all of that. So all of
that conflicts with what may be an issue with black people. Now,
with that said, because anything race based, now, whether it's
d I, which again d EI, I need people to
understand that is an ideology. It is not just about contracts.

(11:33):
It is anything that considers diversity, equity and inclusions anything,
whether it is speaking of hair like the Crown Act
or when Jada was trying out for cheerlead cheerleader and
they wanted all the girls to have a high ponytail
and they had to push the issue to say all
Black girls can't have a high ponytail unless they have

(11:55):
braids or unless they get a ponytail. They wanted the
ponytail at the very top of their like the white girls.
That wasn't working for a lot of the girls. If
they got a sew in different things like that, they
couldn't put the ponytail up. Those are the things that
things like the Crown Act, which which is based in
a diversity inclusion, you know, equity meaning consider other diversities,

(12:20):
look at equity. How mistake we have in this? Yeah,
because that was the whole thing that I went with
Jada's school when they made that. I asked, why when
did y'all make that policy? Well, that policy always been
in place. Well, who were y'all basing that policy on.
You could not have had a diverse counsel or committee
that made that came up with that idea, because if

(12:40):
it was diverse, as far as on the committee diverse,
they would have taken this consideration. Black girls, yep, got
graides and beads and and and weaves and all of that.
You would have taken natural hair into consideration. So you
did not something that the military has not done. So
diversity talks about that, talks about Okay, how much equity

(13:02):
do we have in this? If you're not considering third
twenty five percent of your cheerleaders may possibly be black,
then don't we don't have equity, you're not considered inclusion,
making sure we're included. So this conversation of diversity, equity
inclusion is directly aligned with anything that we are pushing
for for black liberation, anything at all, whether that's reparations.

(13:26):
When I hear people say give us what you gave them, well,
guess what that means. Equity inclusion yep, whether it is
treat us like you treat everybody else, equity inclusion. Consider
that my issue, the income wealth gap ratio, my issue.
My credit score may be different than yours based on
the circumstances of my life. Diversity, so give some of

(13:48):
us a chance when you talk about that's another one.
I'm gonna wait to see. Be watching for that one, y'all.
Play close attention. The check the remember to check the
box policy that they just change that many city level
where they removed having to say if you had a
felony or not. Yes, wait to see that. They a

(14:08):
lot of those policies they just removed remove that in
a lot of cities where you don't have to. Orlando
was one where you don't have to say, at least
on the application, the initial chance to go in there
and state your case. They don't ask about your background.
That's called equity and inclusion. Now, eventually I believe you
do it. It does come up, but at least give

(14:30):
me a chance, right, give me a chance to say
I've done this, done that.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
This.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
A lot of time they just see it, especially with
AI scanning through resumes.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
And just kick you out.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, so all of these things, guys, is in the
larger conversation about diversity, equity and inclusion.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So those who don't like it, those who pushing against
they're not They're very short sighted. And this is where
maybe having critical thinking skills, maybe have a degree, will
help so that you can have a larger long term
vision on how these things are going to effect, especially
our most vulnerable in our society. The Walmart greeters. They

(15:14):
get incentives for hiring the elderly, they get incentives for
hiring people this bit. Y'all even noticed that, y'all know
that when y'all go to see mon Walmart greets in
the wheelchairs and things like that. If y'all notice that, Yeah,
that was the first thing I told my friend who's
in a wheelchair, go get a job at Walmart. He
can't stop nothing, so let them be a greeter. They

(15:36):
get incentives for doing that.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
D I.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Walmart is done with that. So first y'all say pull
y'all said about booschair, go get a job, do it
for yourself. Stop asking the government. Okay, you done took
that away. Let's be honest. What other incentive will Walmart
have din somebody that's going to be limiting, limited on
what they can do.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't see any other incentive.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
There's no other incentive. I'm gonna want to hire the
person that can do a million things like you, Jay,
You do a million things. Marcel is a million things.
I do a million things. Especially right now, people want
to get the most for less. So if I'm gonna
hire somebody that I know can't walk around the store,
can't stop, can't lift, can't this, can't that. But he

(16:21):
still need to make a difference, make up his difference
on his rent. YEA, he still need food. You are
telling these people that they are nothing. That's exactly what
it is. This is I'm telling y'all.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Out of control, and I don't believe that people actually are.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't think they give it them. I really don't
think they give it down to want to know, Jay,
because we have gotten to such a point of self
preservation and I'm gonna only worry about me and do
for self. I'm not doing for self. I'm doing for community.
For me. I expect everybody you know, but for me.
I'm not just working self gonna be cool. I'm gonna

(16:59):
be cool. This is about everybody else and what could
possibly happen to you. You may not live at the
life you think. You think spun me when he walked
out this house and he was gonna be paralyzed in
a week, right, damn show wasn't a part of the plan.

(17:21):
So people gotta be careful about sitting back talking about
what somebody needs to do and not doing what they
should do. All of that. Man, I'm telling you y'all
better brace y'allself, because God ain't playing. Y'all better brace
y'all self. And these people who are finding joy, and
people losing their job and you know, losing their being,
losing their contract and losing baby. That that's saying about

(17:45):
the grave, you prepare for me, preparing for yourself. That
still applies to you. Laughing at people's douth and you
finding joy. You think you've been dealing with hell. Now
that got you resentful? Better be real careful how you
treating the list of these y'all. That's why I just
keep pushing that met That's what's on me. I know
everybody else talking about all there, and we're thin, we're stressed,

(18:08):
thinning the movement, so people that actually want to do
the work, So I get it. I don't expect people,
you know, to be on everything, you know, like the
target fast folks. They got their hands in that heavy
you know. So I'm trying to focus on the workers.
I just keep getting drawn to the workers on my
lit The other day I showed I went through just
looking at some old on my Google voice and some

(18:30):
old Texas with my mother and I was telling her, hey,
you should try a Chesapeake Energy. They got a job.
This is twenty eleven. And then she was like, oh,
make sure Jada gets my business card. You know, my
mother always had her businesses always, She's never not had
her business and listens you always say I got ten professions,

(18:50):
and she had all ten, all business cards. That just
made her proud. And she still wanted a job. She
still wanted security, to know what she was to have
every two weeks. She still wanted health care. And that
doesn't make her week, not at all make her week

(19:10):
at So, y'all we self righteousness sentiment is really out
of control.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah yeah, I mean I just went into a charity,
and you know, before they want to help you out,
you know, they want to get all your business.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
So I remember him telling me, the guy, he was like,
you need to find a job that's stable, And I said,
have you not been watching news?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Ain't no job stable.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Even watching news?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Right exactly?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, he was like, you need to go to Costco.
I said, I'm apply to Costco fifteen million times, right,
and even Costco just let some people go, right, Yeah,
watching right.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's when I saw somebody on New the other day, y'all,
don't be in a panic. Put your money into the market.
Black women saying that what money? Who is she talking to?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Honey?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And I guess they talking to a different group. That's
why I said, I we gotta build all. I gotta
build my own triopics. I don't know what, cause I
ain't got it. I ain't got no extra nothing, y'all.
I got twenty five dollars in a teen and t
and I'd be watching it like a hawk and a lie.
I only did that on my cash shap and it's
probably been like a couple of years. Because you know,
cashap you can invest. They want to put this little

(20:32):
twenty five dollars and see what to do, and every
time they go down, I'll be watching. See that's why
I should have put that twenty five dollars. I ain't
got it like that. So I don't know what y'all loan.
But my cat, I hey, I when Corona hit, I
didn't eat for a year because I saved. I was
able to survive. So I just don't have I can't
afford the risk of putting nothing nowhere, Jade. I don't

(20:55):
have that extra supply like that. I just don't. Yeah,
and we're talking about jobs. You know, I'm gonna bring
it back to the Marines. That's a very prestigious, very
honorable and stable position. And now so many black men,
for example, are being you know, threatened with possibly losing

(21:17):
their employment at the marine and that's crazy by the way. Yeah,
I'm saying I can from a veteran and I know
how big they are on looks and presenting and all
of that. But I don't agree with this.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I just want to it's not like they said.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
This is not like they said, if you also have psoriasis, right,
a lot of white folks get psoriasis. It may look
on the skin or whatever. That's not a policy. They
didn't say if you have canker swords or whatever like
those types of things. It's something very very specific that right. Yeah,
they want your Negroes out of everything. Who wants you out?

(21:52):
Let's go to this other story because they want you out.
These schools, fifty universities are on the federal federal investigation
for saying, hey, y'all was giving away Negro scholarships, y'all
was letting people in based on a mission. Y'all was
doing all that. Let's cut all that out, negro They
are ready to not just take you down a notch,
but about five notches. Negroes don't win and got too

(22:14):
much gotten our militaries too much. You win't gotten access
too many of these schools. We tried to price you
out and make it ridiculous. But your negroes kept on
going to get loans, and you kept on figuring out
a way to get in. You made you forced us
to let you in based on if you were first time,
because these are all questions on your application, first time

(22:34):
college graduate, first time? Are you the first one that
got a degree from your school? Those are good point
in your family? Are you has anybody ever graduated from
you know, all those things to try to write to
try to balance the system that colleges were looking at,
to say, let's let some folks in here who have
had come from some disadvantaged backgrounds, and then let's let
them in here and give them scholarship because they don't

(22:57):
have it because if their parents just graduated high school.
Contrary to popular belief, even everybody in the common say,
you don't need it, you can make it with high school. Well,
the reality of it is, it's few and far between
jobs that's gonna pay you in the upper middle class
without some type of higher education. That's just the bottom line.
So all of these things were on college applications. I

(23:20):
feel that one last month for another school I'm trying
to go to and I tell y'all the truth race
was on there one week. I went back the next
week and it says suppressed, surprised, suppressed meaning on the application,
meaning they're taking it off the application. Interesting, Yeah, not
me being suppressed, but they suppressed the data, gotcha. Yeah,

(23:44):
it was showing black before. Not no more, no more.
You've this application going in based on merit with that.
But our race is a part of our merriage. That's
a part of my story. That's a part of who
I am. That's a part of it. My GPA is
not as high as it should be. Let's talk about why. Yeah,

(24:05):
let's talk about all of the challenges I was dealing
with at that time to maintain that GPA, To maintain that,
that's a part of my merit. This is why we
fought for these things that they say don't matter, you know,
civil rights and law. They say don't matter, don't matter.
You gonna see in real time. And the almost vulnerable
ones were backgrounds, felonies. Mister me, oh baby, wait and

(24:31):
see what they got for you. But this is a thing,
I mean, this goes back into this is just a
new iteration of the black codes, which were restrictive laws
that weren't acted in Southern states after the Civil War,
and it were specifically designed to limit the freedom and
economic opportunities of newly freed blacks from and with the

(24:52):
intention of re enslaving them m things like vagrancy laws,
labor contracts, restrictions on property ownership and movement right, the
right to travel, and those things like that. And then
also we know about Jim Crow and Jim Crow laws.
With the system of racial segregation that enforced separation of
black and white people in the United States from the

(25:14):
eighteen eighties until the nineteen sixties, we are effected unfortunately,
going back into that system. We're looking at what's happening
with education, who's getting funding, who isn't getting funding, who's
getting access, who isn't getting access, and how.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Many black people will suffer.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
In particularly our most vulnerable, which means the poor, the
under educated. Anybody saying you don't you can read a
million books, you can be smart as hell, but we're
talking about America's a hierarchy. They require some boxes to

(25:54):
be checked. The boxes were set up to keep you
out the box. Yes, the boxes were set up. I
got a girlfriend on the job. Smart as a whip.
You know everybody in the department. But she doesn't have
a degree. She cannot promote to that job because it
says you have to have a degree. I don't give
it down what it's in. It just got to be
a degree. It's set up to keep her out of
that supervisor position. No matter how good she is, you
have to have it. So they are setting up a

(26:19):
system to make sure that the boxes that we check.
It's like I tell people, they say, you don't just
need no degree, you need experience. Hold on, why y'all
think people with degrees don't have experience. You can have both.
I'm trying to check all the boxes. Certification, licenses, trade education,

(26:41):
who you know, grind, hustle, you need it all, and
even with it all, you still they still find a
way to keep you out. So the black middle class
that's keeping as a community afloat community. I'm not talking
about just individuals, a few folks who may be doing

(27:03):
well and all that. I'm talking about the black middle
class that has kept the black community afloat because it's
not enough outliers, you know that can help the community.
The middle class as a whole, the median income, like
if we just use Maryland for example, PG County eighty thousand, two,
one hundred thousand. These are the ones that are buying

(27:23):
the homes. These are the ones that are investing back,
that's paying the tax, These are the ones that's giving,
you know, that got the extra money to give to
the nonprofits, to do the donations, to pay to the church.
And you know what I'm saying. That's what I mean
when I say the black middle class that's holding it down,
that's been that's been somewhat of a safety net for
our most vulnerable citizens. If that fails, if that one

(27:49):
cousin that everybody know can depend on because you know
she got that good job where you know such and
such work at debate where you know such and such,
I'm their cousin in my family. I'm that one. Three
weeks ago, I literally got a request from four different people.
One was two hundred, one was three, one was six hundred,

(28:12):
one was two thousand. You can spare it, if you
can spare it. If you can spare it, if you
can spare it. That's a real story, like they say
in the hood, oh my mama. Yeah, So if I break,
what happens to them and so forth, and so that's
how you have to look at it. And I know
it's very easy to sit back and say, well, they

(28:32):
just need to figure it out. Yeah, I know they
need to figure it out. But I'm trying to paint
the picture on. Imagine how many cousins are like that,
and how people are gonna be suffering as a result
of that. Those little those dollars matter. You can count.
Know if I get a couple of hundred over here,
fifty dollars over here, the hums over there, I break?

(28:54):
Would I circulate to y'all don't count? And so forth
and so on. This is a real trickle down effect, guys. Yes,
So we can sit up here and act like it
ain't no big deal if you want to, but this
shit is real as hell, y'all, and y'all gotta pay attention,
and you have to understand that we need I'm gonna
say this every time. This is all all this year, guys,

(29:14):
all these podcasts gonna be centered on this, like bringing
it back to what you need to be doing, bringing
it back to reminding you we need each other. And
I'm not talking about forty six million. I'm talking about
in your family. You better sit out and do an
assessment in your family. Who owns what? Who can stay with?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Who?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Who can chip in? Who can do what? Who can
like this? This is the time. And if if you
don't have the family, because I don't have a big family,
all my family pastor majority of my famly passed away,
then you better build a tribe. I'm doing. This is
about try building. This ain't about who cousin, who ain't
blood and all that and all Marcella's Hey, I know
I can count on Marcel do x y Z. Can
we go get this? I know I count on my say,

(29:53):
can I put my resource together, my talent, Jay talent,
Marcella's talent, whoever, Michhall, whatever talent. Let's package this up,
Let's sell it to a client. Let's get it done.
This is how you have to be moving, guys. You
better figure it out. And the good news is we're

(30:13):
still gonna be okay. I don't doubt that at all.
Black people are resilient as we are. But you better
be positioning yourself. It's not just about praying. I'm just
gonna pray about it, no tink about it, prophesize it,
speak that thing and the truth make sure I remember
to say that, because that's my new thing. May say

(30:34):
that at the town hall, pray about it, prophesize about it.
But also position must be in position. You must be
in the room us to get the information, to know
what you need to know, to find out who do
I need to meet? And I can't help everybody, so

(30:57):
go ask somebody else in the room. I don't just
come to me. Tell him, can you did? No, I'm
giving everything I had to get, So guys, we appreciate
you tapping in. We are, I am saying, sold out

(31:19):
with the town hall because we're literally five tickets away.
But still if to try to get the tickets, if
you can, I know I can fit in another thirty
people or so. But I'll try to be real mindful
because if you purse the ticket, you're guaranteed entry. And
you know, Bankcad is small. They did say we can
use the patio, but you know, maybe raining, something may

(31:42):
be going on that day. It's just an organizing tip,
just you know, for y'all to know. If they tell
you all the capacity is one hundred and fifty, you
know I always shave some of that off, you know,
don't try to be greedy and do it up to copascit.
You know, you always want to give room in case
the space is not you know, not comfortable for folks, right,
and then also want to give room for people to

(32:04):
show up, as you know we like to do on
day off. Good Wait, tes, I know that you were
saying that Atlantis infamous for these lists the loves and
Marcella's gonna love it. He gonna love looking on the list. Nope,
it ain't on the list, you know, so don't love list.
You know it's all about the list. But people can't

(32:27):
pay at the door. But I just I sold guaranteed
tickets because one we want to make sure we had
a crowd they could patronize the restaurant. Want to make
sure they're opening up just for us. So it's important
to me to know, Okay, we're gonna at least have
one hundred people you know in the room that's going
to hopefully get a drink. I'm getting the first shot
for him, but you know, hopefully get a drink, get

(32:49):
some of the food that they're gonna have prepared, small
appetizer menu for purchase. Nothing you know, ridiculously expensive anything
like that. Enjoy the comedy, you know, things like that.
So I did leave room for others to show up,
but it's still sold out as far as guaranteed admission.
And so that's an organizing tip guys that we'll get
more into when we start our virtual training, because directly

(33:11):
after this we're going all virtual. I would love to
do a in person thing, but it really does take
a lot of work, and y'all know, I don't like failing.
People got to be in the room. So I hustle hard,
you know, to get people in the room. And the
girl I don't take no elves. Yeah, I don't like
taking no els. To all the influencers that saw the
flyer and did not share it, you know, I appreciate

(33:32):
it because I love when people know we did this
on our own, you know, when I would go live
every day and tell people, can't you share it? Can't
share it whether you live in Atlanta or not. Yeah, baby,
we did this. My so called celebrity friends didn't share
it at all, except the exception of Killer Mike and
his wife obviously, but everybody else y'all saw it, and
y'all didn't share it, and I want to thank you

(33:52):
for it. I really do want to thank you for it.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
People.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, we know where everybody stand at, and more importantly,
we know us the people. We know where we stand at,
which means we really can do it without y'all for real.
My campaign in twenty twelve was called do it for
I said in twenty twelve, So I love it. I
love people knowing it. Yeah, I appreciate y'all not sharing
and acting like y'all didn't see it. I really do,
I really really do. No big media. I was gonna

(34:16):
go in the Brothers Club, but I was like, well,
wasn't no point in you know, going over there just
to do Atlanta if I wasn't gonna roll out a full tour.
So I didn't want to go over there and talk
to eight me and people about no one location. So
I am going to go back and talk about the virtual.
But after this, we're doing virtual, you know, virtual only,
because then it's not a matter of because people say, oh, test,
you know, you can have it over here for free.

(34:37):
It's not about for free. If we're do in person.
We want to patronize a restaurant, you know, we want
to have entertainment, We want to have a d you know,
we want to put money in a couple of different
people's pocket and echosystem. You know that people can actually
benefit from. It's not about just showing up. You know,
That's not what it's about. So the next after this,

(35:00):
I will be rolling out, of course, after we get
the highlight video, because you know I love receipts. So yeah,
they got to see the highlight video. After we get
the highlight video, we'll start rolling out the virtual. Hey,
remember the guys are tell me before I wasn't gonna do virtual,
but I am gonna do virtual. Now we're in a
different time than three years ago. Like people really need
to know these bunker down strategies. They need help. They

(35:21):
need help with job transition tips, they need help with
resonate tips, interview tips, how to start a business, how
to market beyond just the running for office. You know
I love doing that, but this I'm doing this very
different this time around, Like this is bunker down one
on one and not just me, you know, bringing in
other folks, other experts as well. You know they can

(35:43):
speak to certain topics. People gotta pay something, Jade, it
can't be completely free. Got we are running a business
contrary to pop belief. But by doing it virtual, I
don't have to charge I know, nothing would be over
fifty dollars for two hours, nothing at also about twenty
five dollars an hour. I think that's more than fair.
And I can do it with just a few people.
I don't have to have thousands of people. You know,

(36:05):
just got enough to cover the time and what we
have to pay for the service, and you know, whatever
guess we have, we're good to go. So I'm gonna
start doing that and I'm excited about that, and I
think there's a it's a market for it. And this
is not a praying upon people who like a lot
of these podcasts are. This is about really providing real solutions,

(36:28):
and I'm not seeing a lot of that. I'm hearing
a lot of what we need to do in five
and ten years. But these three hundred thousand people that's
about to be laid off, they need to know. How
do I rewrite my resume right now? You know what
I mean? How do I sell my transferable skills that
I had wrote on the resume one way? How do
I put it this way? You know? How do I
how do I hustle? You know? So that's what I'm

(36:51):
gonna be doing. Y'all stay in prayer for that straight
shot family, please tap in for that. But again, we're
not pushing. I'm not. It's not a volume thing, and
say whoever needs it. We got enough people in the
room that hosts the classroom virtually, then we're good to go.
So I'm excited about it. Guys, Thank you so much
for joining us. Thank you Marcellos, thank you Jay. Don't

(37:11):
keep hustling. That sound like a good idea, y'all. The
virtual Ye, it was great. I want't ay man and
so I wasn't hear no amen show up? Okay, and
we might do another in personally, but it just can't
be as often as I as I thought, right, because

(37:33):
it's just a lot. Like I hustle every day, you
know what I mean, it's a lot to get them tickets.
So I'm excited about it. Guys. The weather getting back
pretty and all that in Atlanta, so we're gonna be
good to go. So all right, y'all, make sure y'all
tap me in a straight shot no chase every week.
Please ask ten people beg them. Start off with begging
them and they don't do it. Tell them You're not gonna
be their friend no more. We need the Marcella's do

(37:57):
it right.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
He wouldn't lose your friends because I damn Churelawson and
I don't give it.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Naw.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
That's where we have with it, y'all. We need you
to follow so we can keep the numbers up. Shout
out the Black Effect podcast network. One billion streams, one billion,
congratulations collective. Yes at all our creators can bind. They
said they want to say about Charlemagne, but he got
to figure it out. You know somebody that one of
his biggest critics that also started a podcast network. We

(38:30):
heard from him since. But they talked about how Charlemagne
did it. Oh he did it with Our Heart he
did and that Yeah, Our Heart's the largest audio platform
in the country. Uh. He was able to get them
to carve out a space a piece of a pie
for black creators. And I think last time I checked it,
about twenty of us and combine all of us Cambine

(38:53):
have reached a billion. And so they take that and
now they can go market that to the advertising and
we know what that does. It allows wrong for podcasts
like me. I'm the only one on there that's all politics,
Tamika masn they have one. They do politics obviously community,
but we are the only two. Everything else is entertainment.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I'm sure others, you know, tap into politics because you
know it's just the thing to do now. But this
is the only show that, with the exception of Tomika,
that's all politics. If we just had to do this
show just all politics by ourselves, without black effect, without
our heart, we wouldn't be in business. They're plain and simple.
It's not enough people interested in it, right, So because

(39:30):
great they mean they it's just a lot for a
lot of people. Test it's a lot. So shout out
to Charlemagne for having the vision, because without that we
wouldn't have a piece of the same thing. With Revolt,
they center themselves on entertainment, but at least they carved
out a little bit for the news. Oh we shouldn't
have to take the crumbs. That's how it is, guys.

(39:52):
Until y'all get more engaged, until we get the digital discipline,
until people are want to know this information besides jade
and mar sellers, this is what it's gonna be. I
got a feeling though, y'all gonna be circling in the
background next year, though, I got a feeling, Yeah, I
got a feeling people gonna want to hear this about
next year, So don't worry about it. We're gonna still
be right here like we was the last five years straight,

(40:15):
every week dropping episode because people are hungry for the information.
And by next year, it's gonna be clear who's been
feeding bullshit, who been on bullshit, who ain't been consistent,
who's just throwing red meat without real solutions? And your
homegirl gonna be right here, consistent, ready to give you
the information. So we look forward to seeing you now

(40:36):
and also next year, guys, so please make sure you subscribe.
Ask ten friends, please subscribe. I've been hustling hard with
this podcast. I did Black Information News this week. I
did ninety six point one in Atlanta. I'm everywhere in Atlanta,
like all the invites, you know, just really trying to
be outside, have a good time. Might gonna lie about that,

(40:58):
but number two, you know, trying to put both my
black companies and my black job, you know, my black
partners put that with just saying I'm contracted with Revolt
and with Black Effect, and I appreciate my partners, and
I know that I'm overworked and underpaid and not what
I could get at MSNBC. But I choose us first

(41:20):
and will always will. So leader's work is important. So
we do need y'all help, though. We need y'all to help,
supporting the town hall, supporting, the virtuals, supporting I'm trying
to build a company I want. I want Jade marcellis
full time, but I can't just prophesize that. We gotta
make it real. They need income, so got to get

(41:43):
the business going, and I believe that they will be done.
I do so right. All right, y'all, y'all have a
good week. Thank y'all, tap in next week. Peace. If
you like what you heard on straight Shop No Chaser,
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(42:05):
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