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March 14, 2025 • 27 mins

Education Department layoffs gut its civil rights office, leaving discrimination cases in limbo. The Education Department’s civil rights branch is losing nearly half its staff in the Trump administration’s layoffs, effectively gutting an office that already faced a backlog of thousands of complaints from students and families across the nation.Among a total of more than 1,300 layoffs announced Tuesday were roughly 240 in the department’s Office for Civil Rights,

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(02:14):
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daily basis. We want to welcome Jay back. Sheoulver's shaking
her head. One welcome back. She left us hanging.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
There's a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I had to take a mental health break now I'm joking.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
It's been fast news weeks. Look, it has been a
fast news week. Guys, so much going on again, I
get it. I don't know with Jay. While they say
there's just too much for me to keep up with,
but you know what they do keep up with? Though
then reality shows, you know, twelve thirteen seasons, they know
who said what and who didn't say what, and oh

(02:52):
we gotta run the clock back and I remember when
you said it, and oh such and such, no she
line and the reunion. That is one thing they they
don't never. They don't miss a beat. They don't miss
a beat. So screw two's tests.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
But also reality shows are very stressful and they come
on at night time. I used to watch like Love
and hip Hop, Basketball, Wives, all of them, right, and
they would come on at night and I would be
so hyph because of all the drama.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It would be hard to kind of calm down.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
So I would argue that watching some of those shows
are as stressful, if not more, given all the drama,
than a lot of this political stuff that's goring.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, it must be a stress they like, because even
though we're saying we would argue with the numbers show
that they watch. The numbers show that they are into it,
and we don't have those numbers. When it comes to news,
it's just not profitable. But as a side note, we
don't normally get into entertainment commentary. But they did say
that Housewives this week. I do watch it because I'm

(03:48):
in Atlanta now, as you know, I'm here ten days
and go another seaty for five and come back ten.
So I do watch Atlanta Housewives. And they said the
numbers was real low. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah? I saw the blogs that talking about how low
the viewership is.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't know, people might maybe people like me just
kind of over it, you know, a lot of the
kind of same antics. Yeah, and I you know, it
just maybe just getting a little less interesting. But let's
see what happens now that the blogs have recorded it
reported it that way. Let's see how the reality show
markets to people or whatever they do to kind of

(04:24):
get folks engaged again.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And they also had some new cast members on the
two and a lot of times, you know, when people
are switching out, it's hard for people to you know,
transition on. But I do know that when it comes
to we even see that in the media, in the
even in our postings that revolt and things like that,
that people are already over Trump. And I get it.

(04:47):
I feel it because it is every single day, you know,
the story changes three two, three times a day. But
it's designed that way for you to not be able
to keep up. You know, we were you and I
were just talking about before we did this podcast. We
were talking about the Department of Education and the layoffs,

(05:09):
and half fifty percent of the department has been let go.
And then now a judge has came forward to say
that no, you can't let them go, but that still
has to go. So people whatever part of the news
they pick up from the either letting them go or
the judge. They'll run with that. A lot of people
are not going to know both of them, you know

(05:29):
that that happened, or even have somebody explained that just
because the judge says it's illegal, don't mean these people
don't still have a job, you know what I mean?
They still as of now they're let go. You know,
they still have to appeal and go through the whole process.
And regardless even if let's say they do temporarily get
a temporary stay, how stressful is that having to wonder

(05:52):
if you're going to have a job or not. I'm
used to it, Jade. In my world, I'm used to it. Contract.
I'm a contract employee. I'm my contract employee, a contract entrepreneur.
I know what it is to wonder if the client's
going to pay monthly, Wonder if this is your last month,
Wonder if they have it, Wonder if I live under

(06:13):
a constant wondering if you know, for seventeen years everybody,
So I could come from a position like, oh, we're
welcome to what we got to go through. Welcome. That's
how it is, because that's where a lot of this
tone is coming from Jaye. A lot of people are saying,
you know what, they got to get out of here
like us, and they got da da da da. And
it's coming from a very I don't want to say evil,

(06:36):
but a very place of hurt.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Despite, Yeah, I think that's the word. I can use
people who have kind of like the misery loves company.
If I've had the struggle and I saw their cousin
with that good government job because you know, be at
in Congress to get fired. And I've saw their cousin
with their good government job, and now now you have
to be out here competing with the rest of us

(07:03):
because the government never gave me an opportunity to get on.
I tried, I applied, but I couldn't get on because
maybe I didn't have the background, maybe there was something whatever,
Maybe I missed the window to get on. And I've
been trying to get on for years and years, like
I tell my mother's stories, try to get off like
a couple of years, and finally got an opportunity. So
it's not always easy. Usually with the government, somebody got
to bring you in, yes, like a referral. And I

(07:26):
think there's something deeper to that jay of some animosity,
that people have, some jealousy, that people have, some envy,
that people have that these black people have, you know,
basically been given something and now they're forced to have
to compete with everybody else. And I want to warn
people to be very careful about laughing at people's downfall. Absolutely,

(07:51):
to be very careful about finding joy. Be very careful
because a lot of these individuals will now be going
into the profit sector and whatever job you thought you
had secured, they might get definitely, So be careful. Karma
is real, and well you don't have to believe it's real.

(08:15):
Just keep on living, keep thinking that the things that
are done, that you've done to others will never show
up in any way to you. So I think it
is really watch how people are moving with this, really,
watch how people are moving with this, because if you
don't have empathy of people not knowing, especially black people,

(08:36):
and you say you're for the movement, and you have
no empathy for a black person that literally don't know
if they're going to be feed their family when they've
done the right thing to get up and go to
work every day and losing their retirement and losing their
pension and losing their benefits and all that, and you're
finding joy in that just because you don't have benefits,
because you don't have a pension, because you don't advertise

(08:56):
neither do I Jay, I chose to be an entrepreneur. Yes,
so I know it doesn't come with those things. So
I'm not sitting back mad at you know why he loves,
you know, I just think it's just real. We gotta
be really careful. And I think the conversation I'm gonna
keep talking about the employees because I'm personally touched by
with my mother, my own personal story, but I also
think a lot is being talked about business, business, business,

(09:17):
and I feel the workers are kind of being left out.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
You know, I've been in conversation today with people who
work for the federal government in really high positions, and
they're literally going into the office, you know, not having
to go into the office for years before this, but
they're going into the office, which is a new experience.
But they're going into the office on pens and needles
every day, not knowing if every day it's going to
be their last day. Going into the offices down here

(09:44):
in the DMV, so that is interesting. Also, I know
that Maryland had a job fare within the DMV this week,
and there will be more job fares for folks who
have been laid off from the federal government that that
is happening. I do see that certain you know, opportunities

(10:06):
are coming up for some of these laid off people.
And then also a lot of folks are being offered
retirement packages early, so a lot of federal government workers
are going to seminars that are being held and they're
getting information about what the retirement packages would entail.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Before a lot of folks who've put.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Their time in for twenty five years or however long,
it's not going to be enough to supplement their normal salaries.
So some people have some really tough decisions to make.
Some folks will have to retire but then pick up
another a part time job, or even another a full
time job, or go into business for themselves on the
side to sort of supplement the salary. So it's just

(10:43):
really interesting to see how entire black families down here
are being impacted. A lot of folks have children in college,
children and who are in high school about to go
to college, and they're trying to figure out what they're
going to do now that they've been laid off.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
And what about the healthcare benefits? I mean with this
business for y'all said, like I know, y'all, I'm saying busines, voicelf,
business voice, helf do for self? What about the health care?
Who got that? Where is that at? I'm a due
for self, so where it grows the healthcare? Can you
let me know where to affordable health care is? Because
it's not in or.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Because it's being cut? And guess what test?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
You know?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like you, I am a consultant as well.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I have all of my appointments lined up between now
and whenever my insurance you know, I have to revisit
the insurance. Don't know if the rate's gonna go up
or like what that's gonna look like. But also I
have been thinking about things that I need to cut
from my budget.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Okay, I need this gym member.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Shit, Should I just go ahead and invest in some
home gym equipment so I can eliminate that monthly expense.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I am literally taking a liver clans coalon clan stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I got all of these like supplements that I'm trying
to like get my health in order.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And then also, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Have an insurance because I don't even have insurance, but
go ahead, that's a blessing. Go ahead and thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
It is a blessing. But again, it could get taken away.
It can get taken away. Things can change, Like there
are so many you know, I'm in DC, so there's
a lot of like health care programs and things that
have been funded.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
That people that are been taken away. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, that people who work or you know, work for
themselves or whatever are privy to getting. But that's not
indicative of what's happening around the country. There are places
where people literally just don't have access to health care,
and then where health care is available, these things are
getting cut. Also the Department of Education, civil rights, civil

(12:34):
rights divisions within the Department of Education, and you know,
just things for our children with disabilities, like what's going
to happen to them. Like, there's so many things that
are coming up about this government job situation, and it
just really surprises me how a lot of our people
that I'm also seeing online are just apathetic to what's

(12:56):
happening with education, what's happening with business, what's happening with government?
Jobs because I guess they say that they're living outside
of the system. And these are a lot of my
brothers and sisters in the so called conscious community. They're saying,
we need to have our own schools. Yeah, we need
to have our own schools. Yes, it's going funded, Yeah
we do. But where's the funding coming from?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Exactly where's the funding coming from? But then also I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I mean, wherever our black children are, I'm going to
consistently be where they are. Right so, the majority of
our kids are in public education, and we need to
make sure that they're good and they're getting what they
need within public education as long as like that's where
they are. So this sort of apathy is I think
it's pretty dangerous. And I'm not sure if it's like

(13:38):
the social media algorithms that are causing people to think
and lean in a particular political direction.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, that's a big part in it. But also you're
connected to yeah, definitely. So I mean there's a lot
going on. I just we just have to do our
due diligence. I've been also getting involved in a conversation
locally in DC. There are our.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
City council members have been on the Hill, and you know,
there's massive costs to action, to lobby, make phone calls
and send letters to senators and you know, folks within
the House of Representatives so that this funding bill does
not cut over a billion dollars in funding from the
District of Columbia. So there is so much to do,

(14:22):
so much to get involved in. But sitting back and
taking the sort of like resigned approach, to me, it's
just really lazy and it just it's not affording to anyone.
Doesn't for you know, black folks that are being heavy
hit by this, and.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
A lot of people just don't know what to do,
like the bottom line, don't know what to do too.
So there's some I guess I could say lazy not
trying to get involved with a lot of people. Jay
as we know what the push line train. There's many
people do know what to do, but there are some
people just like I literally don't know what to do,
you know I have it's like tell them what can
I do? And you know, and I've been telling people
we do need the long term but even you could

(15:01):
say short term strategy when you talk about midterms and
different things like that. But right now, I think people
are really trying to self preserve, you know. So I'm
telling people bunker down and build, like, bunker down where
you are is where you are, and build like just
when I say, Bill coming up with different ways. You know,
I've been talking about my three things Save. So funny
because I did the pastor Pastor Brown's podcast, and you

(15:24):
know I do save, shack and strap. He wasn't with
the shack part, but I said, well, you can just
skip over about about the Mary Couve and I live together,
but roommates. You know, businesses resources combine and if you
got a service, I got a service day, let's bring
it together. This is how we can combine this service.
You know. That's a real thing that we do. The strap,
of course, he don't believe. He believed in non violent.

(15:46):
Of course I believe in violence, you know. And then
I said, then people not having babies. I said, but
I'm not gonna go there, but protect yourself. Make sure
you know they don't have babies. So he likes concept.
But that's just really like where we are, those small things,
small little things that people just need right now in
this moment. You know, we're not talking about or such
and such roll in the book doctor Claude Anderson rode

(16:08):
in such and such and said, yeah, that sound good,
but that's y'all ain't need it by now. So what
make me think you're gonna have it done by April first?
I'm talking about April first. The three hundred thousand black
people that will be impacted, That's what I'm talking about.
They need to know like what to do, like right now. Literally,
and a lot of these people have never been in
a position to have to figure anything out. Very close

(16:28):
friend of mine, she was talking about moving to Gona,
and I said, do you own your house? Because you've
been in your house twenty five years. She didn't know
she owned the house. So you think you can move
to Gona, but you don't even own what you have
here in America. So even having conversations amongst each other,
like I've done with my best friends, Hey, which one
of us own the deed? Yeah, I'm the single one
and I own the deed. I'm the only one owned

(16:48):
the deed to my But how do we how do
we make sure? Okay, who raise your hand and we
actually own a house? Okay, if she get tough, we
can go to Teseslim's house. Okay, Jade, if you gonna
buy water, if you're gonna stack up on water, I'm
gonna stack up on fruit, you know, fruit can fruit
or something or somebody else, stack up on toilet paper, somebody,
so that it's not all, you know, just one person

(17:10):
sharing the load. So if it all go down and
we got to be in the house together, we gotta
figure it out. That's right, you know. That's what I'm
trying to get people as real tools. And then, Jade,
I want to roll out after we get done with

(17:30):
the town hall in Atlanta virtually, I want to, you know,
provide resume tips, interview tips, transferable skills, what those transferable
skills can transfer to those kind of things. I can't
do everything for free, I'm telling you now, I can't.
I'm bringing in other folks. We run a whole business,
so guys, I'm not trying to take advantage of anybody

(17:53):
on anything or nothing like that. But I also have
to make sure that our team paid for so nothing
in expensing, maybe twenty twenty five bucks something like that.
It's certainly not the h did I see many others
five hundred dollars seminars thousand, dollars. You know, it's not
that at all, but we have to you know, be
able to compensate folks, you know, to give their skills

(18:16):
to provide. You know, you do a lot of training.
I do a lot of training, Chrissy does a lot
of training, Michelle, you know, my whole team. We gotta
be able because again y'all say do for self, So
we got to be able to you know, offer these seminars,
you know, these webinars to people, and I can't do
them all. So I'm looking. You know, I've always talked
about the virtual thing and building up my training division,

(18:39):
and it's always something I you know, said Okay, I
need to spend more time doing it, and just happened
to half the chance. But now I have to make it.
I have to make it a priority because trying to
get a hundred and plus one hundred so people in
the room has definitely been a task. Atlanta has been
very supportive to me. I know we will sell out.
I think we've got fifteen tickets left and we got
see sixteen days, so that's a ticket every day, so

(19:02):
I know we will sell out. But I know it
also took me ninety days all ninety days, you know,
to sell every single ticket. And I remember Michelle, Michelle
be a publicists working on me, and she's like, oh yeah,
you got plenty of time to like, No, you don't
understand movement work is different. It's not. Even though I
added into comedians, you know, so that it could be

(19:24):
you know, people could feel like they're getting something average
comedy shows forty bucks you get into comedians. I've added
in a free shot all those things. And even still
trying to gather people for community, for the business of community,
It's just not easy. It's just not and it requires
every single you know, I'm on live several times a
day talking about it. I've asked people to share it,

(19:45):
people have shared it. I've reached out of people asking
the text all of that. Like, it is a hustle,
a grind. So I'm not sure. Well I'm not gonna
say not sure. I know I can't do another in
person one in the immediate future. I just can't. It
just it's too much. People say yea, hey, yeah, I
MA help, help, help, and it just don't work that way,
as you know, it falls on me. So virtual is

(20:06):
something that you know is more feasible people can get
on wherever they want, twenty five thirty people on. That's fine.
You know, we don't have to because you don't want
to go to nobody's restaurant Jay without them patronizing the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
You absolutely.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Bankhead is not open on Sundays, so they're opening for us,
you know, four to eight. We want to make sure
people are buying food, you know, buying they prepare food,
you know, at least a small menu, you know, buying drink.
We want them to lead saying okay, we circulated the
dollar within this room. You know. So that's important to
me too. It's not a matter of just having a
bunch of people showing up in a room. We can

(20:41):
do that virtually. It's a matter of how are we
moving this money forward? And how can we show that
with this dupe for self that y'all be talking about.
How can we make sure that everybody in the room.
You know, the comedians got it, the DJ got it,
the play the Patriot, you know, they got their money
for your thirty dollars thirty five forty dollars sacrifice? What
does that look like in real time? So I don't

(21:03):
think I'll be doing another one in person for a minute.
But I am very excited about this one. It's gonna
be dope. We probably could do it once a quarter maybe,
But then again, I don't know because it takes me
ninety days just to hustle it, so I.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Before I can spand that. And also the economy is
shifting as well.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So yeah, but people find it to do the other stuff.
It's just again, community is hard. It's hard.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
It just is.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
This is not easy, guys, which is why my training.
I give you the real deal so you know exactly
what it is. You know. So guys of the Department
of Education laid off again fifty percent of their folks.
I'm concerned because the Civil Rights Division. I think it's
only a few of them left. I think it's five JD.
If I'm correct, only five are left. Do you have

(21:53):
those cities by chance? This city that where it just left,
because I know it's in that article that we pulled,
but cities that still have their Civil Rights division? Atlanta
popped out to me because I was excited to see
that because the Small Business Administration just decided to relocate
from Atlanta. Yes, when people say, oh, it only have

(22:15):
white women, that's true. But in Atlanta, the Small Business Association,
based on the numbers, helped a lot of black folks too,
So I get it. I know we have to push
for more. I know we can't just be satisfied with
the crumbs because it helped more white women. But we
also can't ignore that it didn't help a lot of
black folks too. We have to That has to be
a part of the conversation. But yeah, civil Rights Division

(22:40):
was a part of that cut, which means children, anybody
discriminated against. If you've ever been in a school situation
and feel like you discriminated against, that's the leading thing.
So to take that out, that's where you decide to
cut costs. Come on, guys, this is very clear, very strategic.
They are sick of the lawsuits. They are sick of
the the being crumps of the world. They are sick

(23:03):
of cities having the pay for in justice. They're over
and so they're shutting down.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and they're shutting down quick.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Immediately.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
I just don't know what to say. I am looking
for those cities while while we're.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
On because.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
All of the offices were impacted. That's thirteen hundred people.
Hubs in New York Chicago, Dallas were affected as well as.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
DC.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
But yeah, roughly two hundred and forty in the Department's
Office for Civil Rights. So that is really, really, really
really terrible. Seven of the civil rights agencies, twelve regional
offices were entirely laid off, right, and again the busiest
hubs were in New York, Chicago, and Dallas.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, well, yuays, we are in for more. Uh, this
is not a scare atag that this is real. We
are in for more. There's more to come. The tariffs
were still following that to see what that retaliation will be,
to see, you know, what's that gonna look like in
real time. Canada said they ain't playing no games, or

(24:19):
they said they will be putting a tear right on back.
And Trump has even immediately said, you know that it
will be an inconvenience. He calls it inconvenience. So we'll
just see how many can afford that inconvenience.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Jake, Well, I know that the new new Prime Minister
of Canada says that the US needs to put some
respect on their name and they're tired of the disrespect.
So the new guy came in swinging after Trudeau. You know,
transitioned out of his role, and they're retaliatory tariffs happening

(24:51):
all the time. So yeah, I just I mean, there's
there's terriffsment still in aluminum. I know Canada was talking
about cutting off some electricity to several US states that
it provides the US electricity to near the Canadian border,

(25:11):
so energy is also gonna go up in certain places.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, guys, we are in uh for more. I know
they say, oh, democrats are scared take and all. It
is actually a real policy and I'm not a democrat.
I'm just telling you what it is. And I'm concerned
for those who barely had money were complaining about inflation
what that's gonna look like in real time. So make
sure you stay locked in on a straight shot, no chaser.
We're doing our best to keep up with it every

(25:37):
single day. Please follow me on all things revote as
well weekly commentary. We are stretching ourselves thin like thin
thing thing thin. You know, We're trying to consume as
much information as possible. Since y'all say y'all want to
consume as y'all protecting y'all peace, I guess y'all it's
gonna let me lose my piece. So at least at
the bare minimum, check in with the podcast once a week,
you know, to kind of get an update the top

(25:58):
lines of the things you need to know. We can't
cover it all day, but we can continue to do
our best. I do want to thank you guys for
being committed, being supportive. We want to start doing the
show a live show. Hopefully we can start that next
week where people can hop in on the zoom and
we can make this a live show because people really

(26:18):
need to talk, they need to discuss, they have questions
and opposed to just listening to me, we want to
open it up, you know, for everybody else. So hopefully
we'll be able to do that Sunday's at seven pm.
Sometimes I travel, so we may not always be able
to do it, but the goal is Sunday, seven pm
Eastern Standard time, go live. We'll have the zoom. You
guys need to hop on the zoom. We don't have
to put your camera on, but we do need you

(26:40):
on the zoom so that we can get good audio.
So we will start that this week guys, and we
hope to talk to you so peace. Peace, If you
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