June 19, 2025 • 35 mins
The Democrat party has been desperately chasing the Obama coalition since 2008 and they are failing miserably.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, ask your question.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's just keep it real straight shine, with no chasing,
I'm gonna get a little bit ruptured. I'm here for it.
Those who really believed in the American process, all of
us street shot, no chase with your girl chant to
figure out on the black.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Effect podcasting at work. We don't stand for him? Who will?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
A lot of people that that said they weren't gonna
be standing up for nobody this last weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We get somebody else to do it?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
People now ourselves if we don't stay up m and
will they say, girl, get somebody else to do it,
because I'm done standing coming back and saying it though,
ain't it. If they're done standing, they sitting their boots
on the ground. And that's just what it is, right,
So I don't know. We're gonna see how it all
work out after training on board throw for those who
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for actually do want to give a damn about what's
happening to your community.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And I ain't mad.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm not telling y'all to go out and fighting old
police and they don't already told y'all they gonna shoot
you down like dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And you know the sheriff said that last week in Florida.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Ain't nobody telling y'all to be mad talking about Trump
twenty four hours a day. The federal gonna do what
it's gonna do, Marcella's but my goal here is to
get people focused on your local government. It's so much
going on on the local level that people just do
not pay attention to that. It's critically important. It's where
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you get the most power, it's where the most shit
gets done. And we take for granted that people know that.
You know, one great thing about my training, or I
think the most important thing about my training is teaching
people what's going on local. People just don't talk about
the local. It's not sexy, it's not you know what
attracts people. It's not the Jasmine Crockets, you know, the
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the AOC's, the Bernie Sanders, the Trump this to that. No, guys,
local is where it's at. And if you pay enough
attention local, they got more drama in a little bit.
So if you like drama and keeping foolish just going on,
don't worry about it, get involved on the local level.
I had the best time and on Land on the
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local level, and I'm looking forward to being back in
local politics and picking right where I left off. So
I want to dedicate this episode to the training that
we just had that Marcello's was in and so many others,
and shout out to you guys who took the time,
who purchased the course right away. I was blown away
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at the support that we've had. It just shows you
how many people really want this information. Now we can
just see how many people are going to show up
for course two, course three, course or course five, and
guess from Marcella's even if they don't show up, we
continuing on with the program because it's not about we,
it's about what me.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And when I say me, I'm talking about I'm gonna
do the work God has called me to do. Who
he's saying is who he's saying. Yeah, I'm checking it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Off on the box.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hey, Hey God, I don't know. Hey, everything else above me,
but you told me to do this training. I made
it available, and that's it. Whoever you saying is who
you're saying. I'm gonna do my best. Marcellos go around
bullying people to show up, and a woman and all
of that caught Marcells do that with me, Hey, taking
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off the list, having faith and however God want to
do it. And that's that, Marcellos, that's it. I've been
waiting to go around from city to city. Can't afford
that too expensive. People can't afford it. People say, shut
up to John Patterson. He was in the training. He
was one of the ones that wanted to bring me
to Hughes standing oh yo yo, yo, yoh. We can
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get people in the room. John Patterson couldn't get one.
At best.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
They all they could do.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It for to be done, got to do virtual.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Y'all got to open up the net.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Get a few people at least, you know, pick a
little bit from New York, get something from Georgia, you know,
get something more hot.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You know, that's what it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Takes, because showing up in your city, that takes work.
Me getting the people in that room to where you saw,
I really got myself. You broke off relationships, all type
of shit and crashed all the way out for the training.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So crashing out every ninety days.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So I want to pop up Tess Talks type style,
you know, inspiration stuff, not like the town hall where
we got two three comedians and food and you know,
just probably have a comedian open up, you know, something
like that, our poets, some kind of whatever, but just
thirty minute keynote from me, strictly inspiration, questions and answers
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in and out.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, something I can rent for two hours.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Small little venue, you know, pop in, cover the plane ticket,
cover the hotel of the night, and come on back.
So I do want to do those, but I need
to see, we need to get this training going and also,
you know me kind of get a good grasp on
what's going on with law school. But I do want
to make sure I do at least one a quarter
for the first year. Second year, I should be able
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to do a little bit more. I can probably do
once a month, but try to get one of those
in by the end of the year. Not sure where
I want to do it. I've done Atlanta, you know,
more than once, so kind of time to you know,
do something somewhere else. But like I said, I'm talking
like fifty people at best, right, because I don't want
to have to go crazy with you know, trying to
promote and sell and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So right, so let's talk about the training we did.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Roles and responsibilities for Canada Campaign Workers organizers and activists.
I only had one person that gave feedback to say
that it was a little too basic for him because
he's already familiar with those things, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'm glad he did say that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He said he did want to still be a part
of the program, but he wants more of the webinars,
the specialized you know, course, specialized you know talks, if
you will, So guys, definitely stick around for that. I'm
definitely going to have those, but right now it is
critically important that I'm giving people the very basics you
know that we start from day one, and as you
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can see in the classroom with the questions people were asking,
people are not familiar with the basic roles.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
They're just not And so I'm very proud.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Of the feedback that we got back across the board
with aha moments and things that they saw, you know,
that they didn't know before, and just really getting some clarity,
you know, on positions. Now we go to step two,
which is building traditional non traditional coalitions. That's why I'm
going to talk about from experience, how I was able
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to be effective in Flint, how I was able to
be effective in Orlando, how the hidden gems, you know,
that a lot of groups that people tell you never
go talk to, that you go talk to. So that's
going to be based on experience, real word experience. A
lot of people are looking for. Won't have a lot
of course materials in advance because this is more you
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know what you know, me talking to you guys. But
I'm sure I'll drop some content just you can so
you can follow along. But that really is, you know,
for the live class. And by the way, you can
go back and watch course one. Of course one is
available the on demand video. That's what I really love
that the video is available. You can watch it at
any time, share it with a friend. Please support the program.
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I hope we can get new people every month, you know,
to just go back and watch the new ones. That's
the goal, the overall goal down the road. We want
to get several thousand people with our black party that
started quickly ended quickly grand opening and ground closing. The
goal was to have five thousand people on the ground.
We just did not get an opered. I didn't get
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an opportunity to work with them to do it. So
I'm gonna do it myself. But Marcell's I know you
had some questions about the training, So I'll let you
kind of go first.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, so do you recall like when when you attended
like political trainings, like what was the the average costs
to attend those versus how much it costs to attend
your classes.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm glad you asked that question. Marcella loved questions, y'all.
One thing he's gonna do is have some quick so
Congressional Black Caucus. When I went to that training, you
had to be sent by an elected official. They typically
only send their staffers. Corene Brown former congress room Corrine
Brown enjoyed my commentary on the radio in Orlando.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Course with Don Miller.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I se Terio's ass up every day, like, yeah, you
need to see you the training. And because Don Mill's
a conservative and you know, I was always you know,
whim and I would go back and forth on things,
and so she sent me to the training. That was
the first time I've been to anything like that. It
was a five day boot camp. It's kind of like
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what we have, but not the same. I do like
they did assimilation of you, you know, like running a
mini fake campaign, which I would love to do.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I would do it much differently in how they did it, but.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was still already with staff that were either intermediate.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Or advanced, and it still was.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
All Democrats in the room, pretty much the same way
of thinking about things.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's when I met Tim Johnson. Conservative.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Tim Johnson rest in peace. He's the coldest ever conservative,
never sold out.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Y'all. Make sure y'all go look at him.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The I under of the Frederick Douglas Foundation, and I
fell in love with in the moment he came in
that room, just army guy, upright proud, you know, the
only Republican that showed up and shut the room down
because the points he was making were just valid points.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They came.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They wanted to hate him, but they ended up loving him.
And Tim Johnson I became, you know, really cool over
the years. He ended up dying in a diabetic coma.
But Tim Johnson was one of the best. I'll send
you some of his videos on even the races when
he was dealing you know, dealing with from within the
Republican Party, so that didn't cost him anything that was
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sponsored the other ones I went to, like Yale Law
School for Women. That was I believe at the time
maybe twenty twenty five hundred, maybe less now, but I
know somewhere between fifteen hundred and thirty five hundred in
that range. I can't remember. It's been a minute since
I went. And I went to that and saw they
had two three hundred people in the room, and I'm like, oh,
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they making a killing off of this. And I did
not leave with anything new different. I left frustrated. I
left like, Okay, I heard what y'all said, that we
need to wear blue suits and pearls and look the
part at and they brought in all these national because
see this a time after Obama and Organized for Obama
happened Marcella's. Everybody was following that model, everybody. It wasn't
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a candidate. I remember Derek Wallace worked with him. He
was running for a commissioner in Orlando. He printed off
all the organizing for Obama like because they literally sent
out packets to say this is how you do it,
and everybody thought all they had to.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do was just do like Organized for Obama did.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And it's all good. And it didn't work that way
because that was actually Obama, you're not And that's where
y'all got to confuse this were really I won't forget
Derek Wallace spent a bunch of money on his campaign.
I'm gonna spend money on advertising. I'm gonna get billboards,
I'm gonna get that oversaturated the hood and still lost.
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But it was with the organizer for Obama organized for
America mindset, and they really dropped the box.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They gave people the.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Toolbox, I guess, but it was missing true training. People
were thinking they could just take that too. Jeff has
a toolbox that he works with with cars. He can
hand it to me. But if I don't know what
to do with those tools, I don't know how to
worked those two.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I just got a.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Toolbox, you see what I'm saying, right, And that was
what organized them for Obama. That's what happened and which
is why they got their ass dusted in twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
They thought they could duplicate.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
What Obama did and there was they thought it was
a cookie cutter way because it was the most engagement
you had ever seen, you know, the most young people
you've ever seen, the most diverse coalition ever, and they
to this day, Marcell, that was in two thousand and eight.
To this day, the Democrat Party still has not been
been able to build the Obama coalition to day. They
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keep trying, they keep failing, They keep trying to keep failing.
They have not been able to replicate the Obama color
and they're still talking about it. Jada was born in
two thousand and seven. She'll be eighteen this week. That
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race was in two thousand and eight. The organizing for
that was in two thousand and seven. Are you hearing
the numbers? She's getting ready to be eighteen?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Y'all? Wow, So y'all been trying to duplicate.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So that should tell you that what y'all been trying,
because you got to think about president's campaigns only every
four years. So y'all been chasing this for eighteen years,
seven cycles, and you ain't found it yet. So that
should tell you there's no more Obama coalition. You need
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a different, and I need to make sure I'll bring
it up in class.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's a good note.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You need a different matter of fact. Let me put
that now, because that's what I'm talking about in this class.
If you're still chasing the Obama coalition, you lost already.
You lost already, that was over with. That was a
one time thing, you know what I mean. It's never
gonna happen again. That was President Obama. Y'all still holding
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on to it, y'all still talking about Oh ever, since
Obama got in office, it was backlash, white lash. Okay,
all of that is true, but all of this is
also a part of white supremacy, and not just Obama
but everything that black people exceled in addition to Obama.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But the counter to Trump is not trying to go
back to what y'all did in two thousand and eight,
because that was two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Think about this in a very simple term. I love well.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I actually I'm smaller than what I was right after
I had Jada. So just because I want to if
I go back and where that that dress doesn't fit anymore,
it just doesn't fit.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And if it did fit, it's dated. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
If it did fit, it probably got a hole in it.
If it did fit, it's not trending. It's not politics
the same way the current environment, and they're still chasing
what I wore in two thousand and seven in twenty
twenty five. And I'm saying this as a This is
not me shitting on Democrats or promoting republics. I want
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you to see the mechanics and what I'm talking about.
I want you to It's kind of like, oh, I
still want to look like what I did in high school. Okay, great,
if you do, you do, But chasing that you know
in your big forties.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Don't make no sense.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now if you happen, you might have saw when I
put my prime dress on a couple of weeks ago,
when I went to my grandmother's and she's like, try
your prime dress, Like, I don't think I can wear
this Prome dress. And I tried it all like, oh, okay,
it was unexpected. I wasn't expecting to you know, where
my senior prom dressed.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But I ain't even changing it either.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You understand what I'm saying. Oh politics, same way, Oh damn.
We actually reinvented the Obama coalition, but not chasing it.
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That was then, so.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They have not learned, still have not learned how to rebuild, reshape,
and that is why the Democrat Partisan Shamber. So to
answer your question, I know there was a long answer,
but I had to go with that topic. Business very
expensive to go to Yale Law School, A campaign School
for Women. Also when to go go the White House Project,
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go run lead roofs list, Emily's List, several local things
that I was a part of. I've been to a
lot of them, and I never found one that speaks
to my experience or those that I know would have
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a similar experience or be very truthful with you, just
like the example I gave you with the Obama Coalition,
most of these trainings p Triple C, the Progressive Change
Committee by Elizabeth Warren. They do training, but all this stuff, Marcel,
if you ever go sit in one of their webinars,
it's all going to be positive, positive, positive, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's Oh yeah, guys, we can go back, we can
do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
They're not going to tell you what I just told
you about where the failures are, where the holes are,
whether you know, because they they would have to admit
to themselves that they didn't know what they were talking about.
So they're just repeating the same thing over and over
and over, right, reverence, and I'm wrong. I'll just keep
repeating it over and over and over and keep charging
and keep telling people, come on, come on, guys, you
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can do it, and people will keep failing Progressive went
up and went down Progressive.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
One thing progress will know how to do is lose
a race. They cut that down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They know how to raise money, but they also on
how to lose, and now they're not even raising money.
They used to be very motivated group, very you know,
engaged group, very rabbid, similar to Trump and the Tea Party,
but they could not maintain it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What was your question.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I was going to ask you said you had to
be sent I think it was for what the yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
One, no Congressional Black Caucus.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Okay, do you know what was the purpose of that,
Like why you had to be sent?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, because it was a Congressional Black Caucus. So it's
the congress people. It was their training boot camp. So
they decided who they want to send to the training
so it was typically their staff.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh, I think.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Just something random, let's take ourselves off the corner. How's
that gonna benefit you know the congress people. So they
send their staff or people they want to bring on
the staff, or you know, people in their community. Are
basically with the intent that everything you learn you're gonna
go back and you know, benefit that congress person.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It wasn't too open to the public.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, okay, So let me ask you what means you
do nonpartisan trains instead of political party trainings.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, because I'm a nonpartisan, it wasn't no deep answer,
but to go deeper, you know, I lean left.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Everythink everybody knows that I lean left more than I
leaned right.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I do have some Republican positions that I take, but
I want this to be an open place for you
to learn the tools and wherever you apply those tools, left, right, independent, green, whatever,
I want you to have the tools.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We need more people across the board period.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
All of the trainings I've been to, they're pretty clear
about which way they lean, and I don't think that
does just a service. They say it's not, but it is,
like it's very clear. You know, congresion, black caucus, a demic.
Your Democrat candidates are elected officials, sending their staff and
they work at Democrats their ideology or by in the
room Democrat Democrat.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I want this to be a place where whatever
your belief is, whatever you know it is you're trying
to do, there are still steps. If you want to
build a traditional, non traditional coalition, there's still some steps
I can give you. Whatever that is, you know, whatever
coalition you're trying to build. Also, the second answer to
that is I push local, heavy, heavy local, and most
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local positions are nonpartisan. Even though you know who's a
Democrat who's not a Democrat Mayor Buddy may or Diary
is a Democrat of Orlando, but it's not running as
a Democrat. So people still are aligned with parties. Regina
Hills not running as a Democrat. That you know, she's
a Democrat, you know. But the positions that I think
you need to be paying the most attention to usually
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have nothing to do with party, political party. It's not
across the board in every state. But I'm just you know,
naming some of it, you know, school board things like that.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Right, Okay, well you the most change.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah. So, and it's training. This is a good one.
Will you be addressing if it's if it's possible to
win a race without knocking on doors aka books underground?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah? Yeah, well I hope somebody do ask that question.
I get a tung lashing like never before. I met
with Virginia Hill this weekend. She said she knocked two
hundred doors and that one day. You know, so you
can continue to think that it's not a part of it,
but your opponent knows that it is. So knocking on
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doors you already know I don't want to hear nothing
about I'll probably bring Michelle on for that when we
get to that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
That's in plan.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That is in the I think it's course four implementing
your plan, because course one is what role do you
want to do?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What road do you want to play? Course two?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, now that I know what roll? Where do I
find my tribe? How do I get my tribe? Of
Course three?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Now of what do I do? What's the actual plan?
Of Course four?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
What is the compliance, the legal you know all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Y'all don't like reading as war it's about.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So it's probably gonna be with five people in that
course because y'all be like, you don't want to hear
me talking about reading. And in course five show them
my opponent, how do you take them out? So again
these are still very basic. I'm gonna do electives. After
that they go in deeper, like how to change a campaign?
How to change a campaign in sixty days? Y'all gonna
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use Michelle as a real example, you know, and that
had everything to do with knocking on doors, and she'll
tell you.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't want hear nothing. She was talking about, well,
what did you usually girl? Yeah? Okay, how many doors
you knock on? How many doors you knock on? Why
did well? I went up? Okay again?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How many doors? How many doors? Stand on the scale.
I will stay. I will make a cannon stand on
the scale. Because if you on the scale and you
losing weight Michelle lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, you knocking?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, you ain't gonna be able to just be
the same size of one says and tell me you
knocked on doors alongbo Florida. You not.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Ain't no way in else stand on the scale. I'm
like this life. You're lying.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
If I could do a reality show, I would do
a reality show and nobody probably Oh God, please blessings
so I can get rich or have enough due raft,
because I would do a reality show on the candidate,
making the candidate, and I would take a candidate.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
One like you to keep trying it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And follow them through a six month campaign and show
everything to come with that.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It'll be a hell of a show.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, because you ain't got no scripts in that.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, show you everything come with it. The family dynamics,
the drama. The I'm telling it be a hell of
a show. You think house will all, it'll be a
hell of a show because people don't have no clue,
you know, like what goes on behind you know what
I mean, like behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I would absolutely do that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
That's a good idea, being hell of an idea.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And have you staying before me? Okay, Marcel, did you knock?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I figured, okay, Well, this is why you're losing. The
polls are saying, I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I gotta make y'all good and mad whatever finish line. No,
do you want to win or not? It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well, I had work life balance. Just my Canada's on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I gotta gill and scream all over them, just like
the other day.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Regina, Well, let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Let me tell you. I don't need you tell me.
I'm telling I'm telling you know, hanging up on me.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Oki Doki.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Got plenty of Oki dokies trying to send me plenty
of big guys. Her thing since attorney is I'm leaving
the event. That's what she's saying. When she's done talking
about it, I'm leaving the event.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You can leave it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm gonna peel right back up the next time. And
that's fine. Another thing, we say, we're riding in the
car in silence, No problem, We'll just be in silence.
You can go twenty hour ride like mentally, you know,
like we're going through something and I disagree with something
she's doing. I'm definitely gonna tell her. And she'll say, well,
we riding in the car and silence on this one,
no problem. We're still in the car together. We just
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won't be talking.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And I don't give it. Damn how long the road
trip is.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On a five day road trip and neither one of
us saying nothing, but still in the car together and
very clear that we got two different ways on how
we do this.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's that's our little thing.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And she quick and quick and tell you she don't
take else.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, I'm gonna taking no. Why say you're gonna worry
about me coming out there and saying nothing caddis from
the back end. But when you got your mind made up,
be how you gonna do it? And I think the
other way. Yeah, no, y'all got it. I still support
you in the back end.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That's what Bernie Sanders. They wanted me to come to Florida.
I said no, I'll just take fans in Michigan first.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
What you APIs do rule my reputation in Florida because
I'm stomped down here.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh no, I know y'all don't want to put the resources.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I know you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I know you know what I'm saying. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
See they get caught. Oh no, he good Canes do
have nothing to do with no good camp. This is
about the do you have the mechanics to win? Had
nothing to do with this is the right one. This
is who we need.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They don't have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Winning or very little to do with it, very little
to do with it. The lady that ran against Cela
Turner is not that. The dynamic is her.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
She can't rock the mic like her.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
She don't have a national cachet, she couldn't raise the
money like send a bunch of things.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But she won twice.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So y'all get caught up on that's what we need.
They ain't got nothing to.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Do with nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Being away from home five to six years on the
national campaign hurt her period, among them many other things.
But I'm gonna always stand on that because we got
to be truthful. You know, I'm trying to get other
people to take the leap and understand.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know what you like.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Once you go national, you can't go back local. I'll
give you a perfect example before we close out. I
was local in Orlando. I did some national stuff, but
I'm clearly I'm national now you know what I meaning,
national commentator. If I came back to Orlando. I'm back
in Orlando, but I'm back knowing my place too as
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a worker. You understand what I'm saying. I come back
saying I'm fisted, runn for office and all of that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Girl, where are you being? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We don't care about what you did prior to and
how you hear. Women over are working, you know what
I'm saying. So no, oh, so you think because you
went back at now, oh, you're blessing us finally back.
One of the people that ran against Virginia Hill, former
born and raised in Florida, former black Miss Black America,
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Erica Dunlap, came back ran against Regina.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh I'm back now, I'm ready to serve. They set
her down.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I said, we'll take the woman who's been arrested twenty
one times over you, so you can't just think you're
gonna pop back up on the scene. You knowna call
shots and all of that, matter of fact, shut out
the commissioner burns, I saw him because the Orange County Commissioner.
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I saw him at a sun dressers and sunsuckers, and
I mean serious suckers and sundressing in Atlanta a couple
of weeks ago. He said, well, you ain't gonna come
back trying to run. Who you talking to? Remember you
know me?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I don't know you. They told you about me.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, I'm coming back running, but I know you don't
want no problems with me either now hacking out. Oh,
I'll look out for you, look out for me. You
remember they told you about me, not vice versa. Army
is so relaxed, but the one nothing you know, run
for off. I'm coming back in mind of my business.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
But don't don't make no don't Then Ben said no dog.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
She really baptisted, like, don't don't get talk now, because
I ain't trying to be I'm this and I'm that.
You know I'm just back. Hey, y'all, testling home. Let
me know if I can help out, you know what
I mean. That's my attitude. M same thing with Atlanta.
I tell y'all, not is crash me out in Atlanta,
the Atlanta take over.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And all that.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh hell no, I know how somebody run your ass
about the city.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh nothing, we ain't doing none of that. You ain't crashing.
I know what the crash look like.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And I ain't falling for And the person who did
that crashed out on her own, known for crashing out.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh no, we ain't doing that. Don't disrespect.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But I'm saying said she had no better, No, ma'am.
You know, y'all talk me to that. I'll come back
in ORLANDA hey, y'all, I'm ready to pick up where
I left off. But if it ain't where I left off,
and y'all knew direction, y'all tell me what the direction is.
And I'm you know, but I'll help what I can
and what I can't I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It ain't gonna walk.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Ain't no walking in here trying to tell nobody, you know,
because for the last ten years they've been doing the
work just because I've been in contact on me. Nothing
they've been doing the work. You know what I'm saying.
So that's just what it is. Yeah, and they don't
care about why I've been doing the work on the
national level, don't care about you wasn't over an orange
out using X y Z. Yeah, So come in, move quiet,
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be quiet, know your place, and we'll be covering that
on crash out Don't crash Out webinar, because that's that's
the webinar y'all need with the quickness how to not
crash out because they stay crashing out.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
All progresses to shine. Sign up for this. One thing
progression know how to do is lose a race and
crash out. Name everybody for it.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It ain't even no progressive moving no more the way
you know they was talking about in twenty sixteen and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
It so over with. So thank you for your additional questions. Marcella.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I'm sure you got more. But guys, go back watch
training one. Sign up for training two, which will be
what I say, January, I'm not January July July twelve.
That's training two. Then after that Marcella said he don't
want them on three weeks for time. He said, you
need the energy in it. J ain't change he said
he ain't waiting for nobody. So right after that, we're
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gonna knock him on that because I want to be
done with this by August. My first week in law school,
uh is August fifth, and I know a lot of
information gonna be coming at me and I don't want
to put y'all on hold, So we're gonna do two
you know, due course too. I'm doing that because MYRLF.
I want to see how long it takes people to
go back watch the replay, you know. I'm trying to
figure out what kind of line pushes we got do.
(31:42):
Y'all go back and watch it, quick do, y'all sign
up for the next one. Quick do. Y'all need two
weeks to get it together, you know. So I'm monitoring
that too. But after that, we're not monitoring anything.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
We're going with. This is gonna be available, y'all. Go
back and watch it, y'all do, y'all do? Yah No,
y'all don't.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So I can get these five out because I don't
want to have y'all, you know, waiting, you know, dress
it out through the fall, So knock out the five.
Then after that we'll do the webinars once a month
on specialized stuff. I know I can manage that my
schedule and then.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
We move it on. We're moving on that, see all.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Right, guys, so make sure you sign up. I've been
running some specials ten dollars off if you put in
the coupon code Let's go l T sgo. You heard
Marcelo's ask how much these classes are. It's very affordable.
But I do need y'all to pal on in and
come on in, you know, so that it can be
just being honest with you guys. I know y'all don't
(32:34):
want to hear because 'all think everything supposed to be
for free. But everything I've done, blood, sweat and tears, money,
I'm putting it. This time I putting it is moving
in five and see the different states working in twenty
thirty campaign doing all day like this is actual real
expertise that you're getting. And typically if I was sitting
in front of attorneys doing a training on PR and
media how they work with activists, I'm going to hit
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up every attorney for twenty five hundred per just so
we're clear. So you guys get between forty and fifty bucks.
That's a real good sweet spot. Of scenes, you know,
really affordable for people. Two hours webinar and content prior
to Possibly everyone may not have a lot of content
because it may just be talking. But y'all definitely got
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two hours yesterday. Questions answered. I answered everybody's questions. I'm
interactive on the course dashboard. You know, I'm responding to
people got dishal question, So you you are getting it all.
So I'm asking support it, but don't just support it,
bring a friend, support the division the program period. I'm
just one person. For example, Marcelli's is my right hand.
(33:39):
He was helping me with the comments yesterday. So I
didn't have anybody for the It was only three of
y'all that didn't go try to log in pre you know,
prior to like I told y'all to.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
So it was only three of y'all, which is a
no big deal.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It would have been way more Marcello's, wouldn't it If
I hadn't did all those multiple emails and multiple stuff,
would have been way more. That's why you get all
this up in advance instead of doing like Marcella's bringing
a step and repeat day of always at least three
Marcello's is in the room to do some day of
Lady email me twice old, it's so frustrating two o'clock,
two fifteen. I email her back next day, baby, that
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was at two o'clock. I said, once the training starts,
we're done with troubleshooting. Troubleshooting so to be prior to
we did We were able to correct the couple somebody
said they couldn't get in. Somebody was going under a
different email. Another person was logging in the wrong place.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
But they did that prior too, you know, so we
had time.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Ye when you had to help out somebody, it took
maybe about an hour and a half to finally figure out,
you know, what she was doing. We don't have that
kind of time if the class started at two o'clock.
You see what I'm saying. So support the program guys,
so that I can expand the staff and you know,
do more. I'm not in no rush. I think this
is gonna be what it needs to be by next year.
But support it, guys. Keep us in business for it
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gotta be virtual because that's the only way I can
afford to. You know, do it all all the emails, y'all, see,
go out all the text, all the posts.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm literally one woman show until day of you know
where you see. Marcella's helping me out, which I'm so grateful,
But other than that, I'm doing all the back end.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I got a.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Whole sheet of people I need to go through the
day and change some daytime and all types of stuff.
So I'm really working, y'all for real, So support the
program and we appreciate it, and we'll see y'all next time.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Y'all peace peace.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
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Yeah, ask your question.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's just keep it real straight shine, with no chasing,
I'm gonna get a little bit ruptured. I'm here for it.
Those who really believed in the American process, all of
us street shot, no chase with your girl chant to
figure out on the black.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Effect podcasting at work. We don't stand for him? Who will?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's right?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
A lot of people that that said they weren't gonna
be standing up for nobody this last weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We get somebody else to do it?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
People now ourselves if we don't stay up m and
will they say, girl, get somebody else to do it,
because I'm done standing coming back and saying it though,
ain't it. If they're done standing, they sitting their boots
on the ground. And that's just what it is, right,
So I don't know. We're gonna see how it all
work out after training on board throw for those who
(01:02):
for actually do want to give a damn about what's
happening to your community.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And I ain't mad.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm not telling y'all to go out and fighting old
police and they don't already told y'all they gonna shoot
you down like dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And you know the sheriff said that last week in Florida.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Ain't nobody telling y'all to be mad talking about Trump
twenty four hours a day. The federal gonna do what
it's gonna do, Marcella's but my goal here is to
get people focused on your local government. It's so much
going on on the local level that people just do
not pay attention to that. It's critically important. It's where
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you get the most power, it's where the most shit
gets done. And we take for granted that people know that.
You know, one great thing about my training, or I
think the most important thing about my training is teaching
people what's going on local. People just don't talk about
the local. It's not sexy, it's not you know what
attracts people. It's not the Jasmine Crockets, you know, the
(02:00):
the AOC's, the Bernie Sanders, the Trump this to that. No, guys,
local is where it's at. And if you pay enough
attention local, they got more drama in a little bit.
So if you like drama and keeping foolish just going on,
don't worry about it, get involved on the local level.
I had the best time and on Land on the
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local level, and I'm looking forward to being back in
local politics and picking right where I left off. So
I want to dedicate this episode to the training that
we just had that Marcello's was in and so many others,
and shout out to you guys who took the time,
who purchased the course right away. I was blown away
(02:42):
at the support that we've had. It just shows you
how many people really want this information. Now we can
just see how many people are going to show up
for course two, course three, course or course five, and
guess from Marcella's even if they don't show up, we
continuing on with the program because it's not about we,
it's about what me.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And when I say me, I'm talking about I'm gonna
do the work God has called me to do. Who
he's saying is who he's saying. Yeah, I'm checking it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Off on the box.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hey, Hey God, I don't know. Hey, everything else above me,
but you told me to do this training. I made
it available, and that's it. Whoever you saying is who
you're saying. I'm gonna do my best. Marcellos go around
bullying people to show up, and a woman and all
of that caught Marcells do that with me, Hey, taking
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off the list, having faith and however God want to
do it. And that's that, Marcellos, that's it. I've been
waiting to go around from city to city. Can't afford
that too expensive. People can't afford it. People say, shut
up to John Patterson. He was in the training. He
was one of the ones that wanted to bring me
to Hughes standing oh yo yo, yo, yoh. We can
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get people in the room. John Patterson couldn't get one.
At best.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
They all they could do.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It for to be done, got to do virtual.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Y'all got to open up the net.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Get a few people at least, you know, pick a
little bit from New York, get something from Georgia, you know,
get something more hot.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You know, that's what it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Takes, because showing up in your city, that takes work.
Me getting the people in that room to where you saw,
I really got myself. You broke off relationships, all type
of shit and crashed all the way out for the training.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So crashing out every ninety days.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So I want to pop up Tess Talks type style,
you know, inspiration stuff, not like the town hall where
we got two three comedians and food and you know,
just probably have a comedian open up, you know, something
like that, our poets, some kind of whatever, but just
thirty minute keynote from me, strictly inspiration, questions and answers
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in and out.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know, something I can rent for two hours.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Small little venue, you know, pop in, cover the plane ticket,
cover the hotel of the night, and come on back.
So I do want to do those, but I need
to see, we need to get this training going and also,
you know me kind of get a good grasp on
what's going on with law school. But I do want
to make sure I do at least one a quarter
for the first year. Second year, I should be able
(05:34):
to do a little bit more. I can probably do
once a month, but try to get one of those
in by the end of the year. Not sure where
I want to do it. I've done Atlanta, you know,
more than once, so kind of time to you know,
do something somewhere else. But like I said, I'm talking
like fifty people at best, right, because I don't want
to have to go crazy with you know, trying to
promote and sell and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So right, so let's talk about the training we did.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Roles and responsibilities for Canada Campaign Workers organizers and activists.
I only had one person that gave feedback to say
that it was a little too basic for him because
he's already familiar with those things, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'm glad he did say that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He said he did want to still be a part
of the program, but he wants more of the webinars,
the specialized you know, course, specialized you know talks, if
you will, So guys, definitely stick around for that. I'm
definitely going to have those, but right now it is
critically important that I'm giving people the very basics you
know that we start from day one, and as you
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can see in the classroom with the questions people were asking,
people are not familiar with the basic roles.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
They're just not And so I'm very proud.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Of the feedback that we got back across the board
with aha moments and things that they saw, you know,
that they didn't know before, and just really getting some clarity,
you know, on positions. Now we go to step two,
which is building traditional non traditional coalitions. That's why I'm
going to talk about from experience, how I was able
(07:01):
to be effective in Flint, how I was able to
be effective in Orlando, how the hidden gems, you know,
that a lot of groups that people tell you never
go talk to, that you go talk to. So that's
going to be based on experience, real word experience. A
lot of people are looking for. Won't have a lot
of course materials in advance because this is more you
(07:22):
know what you know, me talking to you guys. But
I'm sure I'll drop some content just you can so
you can follow along. But that really is, you know,
for the live class. And by the way, you can
go back and watch course one. Of course one is
available the on demand video. That's what I really love
that the video is available. You can watch it at
any time, share it with a friend. Please support the program.
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I hope we can get new people every month, you know,
to just go back and watch the new ones. That's
the goal, the overall goal down the road. We want
to get several thousand people with our black party that
started quickly ended quickly grand opening and ground closing. The
goal was to have five thousand people on the ground.
We just did not get an opered. I didn't get
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an opportunity to work with them to do it. So
I'm gonna do it myself. But Marcell's I know you
had some questions about the training, So I'll let you
kind of go first.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, so do you recall like when when you attended
like political trainings, like what was the the average costs
to attend those versus how much it costs to attend
your classes.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm glad you asked that question. Marcella loved questions, y'all.
One thing he's gonna do is have some quick so
Congressional Black Caucus. When I went to that training, you
had to be sent by an elected official. They typically
only send their staffers. Corene Brown former congress room Corrine
Brown enjoyed my commentary on the radio in Orlando.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Course with Don Miller.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I se Terio's ass up every day, like, yeah, you
need to see you the training. And because Don Mill's
a conservative and you know, I was always you know,
whim and I would go back and forth on things,
and so she sent me to the training. That was
the first time I've been to anything like that. It
was a five day boot camp. It's kind of like
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what we have, but not the same. I do like
they did assimilation of you, you know, like running a
mini fake campaign, which I would love to do.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I would do it much differently in how they did it, but.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was still already with staff that were either intermediate.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Or advanced, and it still was.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
All Democrats in the room, pretty much the same way
of thinking about things.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's when I met Tim Johnson. Conservative.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Tim Johnson rest in peace. He's the coldest ever conservative,
never sold out.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Y'all. Make sure y'all go look at him.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The I under of the Frederick Douglas Foundation, and I
fell in love with in the moment he came in
that room, just army guy, upright proud, you know, the
only Republican that showed up and shut the room down
because the points he was making were just valid points.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They came.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They wanted to hate him, but they ended up loving him.
And Tim Johnson I became, you know, really cool over
the years. He ended up dying in a diabetic coma.
But Tim Johnson was one of the best. I'll send
you some of his videos on even the races when
he was dealing you know, dealing with from within the
Republican Party, so that didn't cost him anything that was
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sponsored the other ones I went to, like Yale Law
School for Women. That was I believe at the time
maybe twenty twenty five hundred, maybe less now, but I
know somewhere between fifteen hundred and thirty five hundred in
that range. I can't remember. It's been a minute since
I went. And I went to that and saw they
had two three hundred people in the room, and I'm like, oh,
(10:57):
they making a killing off of this. And I did
not leave with anything new different. I left frustrated. I
left like, Okay, I heard what y'all said, that we
need to wear blue suits and pearls and look the
part at and they brought in all these national because
see this a time after Obama and Organized for Obama
happened Marcella's. Everybody was following that model, everybody. It wasn't
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a candidate. I remember Derek Wallace worked with him. He
was running for a commissioner in Orlando. He printed off
all the organizing for Obama like because they literally sent
out packets to say this is how you do it,
and everybody thought all they had to.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Do was just do like Organized for Obama did.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And it's all good. And it didn't work that way
because that was actually Obama, you're not And that's where
y'all got to confuse this were really I won't forget
Derek Wallace spent a bunch of money on his campaign.
I'm gonna spend money on advertising. I'm gonna get billboards,
I'm gonna get that oversaturated the hood and still lost.
(12:00):
But it was with the organizer for Obama organized for
America mindset, and they really dropped the box.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They gave people the.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Toolbox, I guess, but it was missing true training. People
were thinking they could just take that too. Jeff has
a toolbox that he works with with cars. He can
hand it to me. But if I don't know what
to do with those tools, I don't know how to
worked those two.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I just got a.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Toolbox, you see what I'm saying, right, And that was
what organized them for Obama. That's what happened and which
is why they got their ass dusted in twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
They thought they could duplicate.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
What Obama did and there was they thought it was
a cookie cutter way because it was the most engagement
you had ever seen, you know, the most young people
you've ever seen, the most diverse coalition ever, and they
to this day, Marcell, that was in two thousand and eight.
To this day, the Democrat Party still has not been
been able to build the Obama coalition to day. They
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keep trying, they keep failing, They keep trying to keep failing.
They have not been able to replicate the Obama color
and they're still talking about it. Jada was born in
two thousand and seven. She'll be eighteen this week. That
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race was in two thousand and eight. The organizing for
that was in two thousand and seven. Are you hearing
the numbers? She's getting ready to be eighteen?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Y'all? Wow, So y'all been trying to duplicate.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So that should tell you that what y'all been trying,
because you got to think about president's campaigns only every
four years. So y'all been chasing this for eighteen years,
seven cycles, and you ain't found it yet. So that
should tell you there's no more Obama coalition. You need
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a different, and I need to make sure I'll bring
it up in class.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's a good note.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You need a different matter of fact. Let me put
that now, because that's what I'm talking about in this class.
If you're still chasing the Obama coalition, you lost already.
You lost already, that was over with. That was a
one time thing, you know what I mean. It's never
gonna happen again. That was President Obama. Y'all still holding
(14:24):
on to it, y'all still talking about Oh ever, since
Obama got in office, it was backlash, white lash. Okay,
all of that is true, but all of this is
also a part of white supremacy, and not just Obama
but everything that black people exceled in addition to Obama.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But the counter to Trump is not trying to go
back to what y'all did in two thousand and eight,
because that was two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Think about this in a very simple term. I love well.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I actually I'm smaller than what I was right after
I had Jada. So just because I want to if
I go back and where that that dress doesn't fit anymore,
it just doesn't fit.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And if it did fit, it's dated. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
If it did fit, it probably got a hole in it.
If it did fit, it's not trending. It's not politics
the same way the current environment, and they're still chasing
what I wore in two thousand and seven in twenty
twenty five. And I'm saying this as a This is
not me shitting on Democrats or promoting republics. I want
(15:35):
you to see the mechanics and what I'm talking about.
I want you to It's kind of like, oh, I
still want to look like what I did in high school. Okay, great,
if you do, you do, But chasing that you know
in your big forties.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Don't make no sense.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now if you happen, you might have saw when I
put my prime dress on a couple of weeks ago,
when I went to my grandmother's and she's like, try
your prime dress, Like, I don't think I can wear
this Prome dress. And I tried it all like, oh, okay,
it was unexpected. I wasn't expecting to you know, where
my senior prom dressed.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But I ain't even changing it either.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You understand what I'm saying. Oh politics, same way, Oh damn.
We actually reinvented the Obama coalition, but not chasing it.
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That was then, so.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They have not learned, still have not learned how to rebuild, reshape,
and that is why the Democrat Partisan Shamber. So to
answer your question, I know there was a long answer,
but I had to go with that topic. Business very
expensive to go to Yale Law School, A campaign School
for Women. Also when to go go the White House Project,
(16:43):
go run lead roofs list, Emily's List, several local things
that I was a part of. I've been to a
lot of them, and I never found one that speaks
to my experience or those that I know would have
(17:04):
a similar experience or be very truthful with you, just
like the example I gave you with the Obama Coalition,
most of these trainings p Triple C, the Progressive Change
Committee by Elizabeth Warren. They do training, but all this stuff, Marcel,
if you ever go sit in one of their webinars,
it's all going to be positive, positive, positive, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's Oh yeah, guys, we can go back, we can
do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
They're not going to tell you what I just told
you about where the failures are, where the holes are,
whether you know, because they they would have to admit
to themselves that they didn't know what they were talking about.
So they're just repeating the same thing over and over
and over, right, reverence, and I'm wrong. I'll just keep
repeating it over and over and over and keep charging
and keep telling people, come on, come on, guys, you
(17:46):
can do it, and people will keep failing Progressive went
up and went down Progressive.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
One thing progress will know how to do is lose
a race. They cut that down.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
They know how to raise money, but they also on
how to lose, and now they're not even raising money.
They used to be very motivated group, very you know,
engaged group, very rabbid, similar to Trump and the Tea Party,
but they could not maintain it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
What was your question.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I was going to ask you said you had to
be sent I think it was for what the yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
One, no Congressional Black Caucus.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Okay, do you know what was the purpose of that,
Like why you had to be sent?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, because it was a Congressional Black Caucus. So it's
the congress people. It was their training boot camp. So
they decided who they want to send to the training
so it was typically their staff.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh, I think.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Just something random, let's take ourselves off the corner. How's
that gonna benefit you know the congress people. So they
send their staff or people they want to bring on
the staff, or you know, people in their community. Are
basically with the intent that everything you learn you're gonna
go back and you know, benefit that congress person.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It wasn't too open to the public.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, okay, So let me ask you what means you
do nonpartisan trains instead of political party trainings.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, because I'm a nonpartisan, it wasn't no deep answer,
but to go deeper, you know, I lean left.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Everythink everybody knows that I lean left more than I
leaned right.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I do have some Republican positions that I take, but
I want this to be an open place for you
to learn the tools and wherever you apply those tools, left, right, independent, green, whatever,
I want you to have the tools.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
We need more people across the board period.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
All of the trainings I've been to, they're pretty clear
about which way they lean, and I don't think that
does just a service. They say it's not, but it is,
like it's very clear. You know, congresion, black caucus, a demic.
Your Democrat candidates are elected officials, sending their staff and
they work at Democrats their ideology or by in the
room Democrat Democrat.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I want this to be a place where whatever
your belief is, whatever you know it is you're trying
to do, there are still steps. If you want to
build a traditional, non traditional coalition, there's still some steps
I can give you. Whatever that is, you know, whatever
coalition you're trying to build. Also, the second answer to
that is I push local, heavy, heavy local, and most
(20:28):
local positions are nonpartisan. Even though you know who's a
Democrat who's not a Democrat Mayor Buddy may or Diary
is a Democrat of Orlando, but it's not running as
a Democrat. So people still are aligned with parties. Regina
Hills not running as a Democrat. That you know, she's
a Democrat, you know. But the positions that I think
you need to be paying the most attention to usually
(20:49):
have nothing to do with party, political party. It's not
across the board in every state. But I'm just you know,
naming some of it, you know, school board things like that.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Right, Okay, well you the most change.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah. So, and it's training. This is a good one.
Will you be addressing if it's if it's possible to
win a race without knocking on doors aka books underground?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah? Yeah, well I hope somebody do ask that question.
I get a tung lashing like never before. I met
with Virginia Hill this weekend. She said she knocked two
hundred doors and that one day. You know, so you
can continue to think that it's not a part of it,
but your opponent knows that it is. So knocking on
(21:32):
doors you already know I don't want to hear nothing
about I'll probably bring Michelle on for that when we
get to that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
That's in plan.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That is in the I think it's course four implementing
your plan, because course one is what role do you
want to do?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
What road do you want to play? Course two?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay, now that I know what roll? Where do I
find my tribe? How do I get my tribe? Of
Course three?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Now of what do I do? What's the actual plan?
Of Course four?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
What is the compliance, the legal you know all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Y'all don't like reading as war it's about.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So it's probably gonna be with five people in that
course because y'all be like, you don't want to hear
me talking about reading. And in course five show them
my opponent, how do you take them out? So again
these are still very basic. I'm gonna do electives. After
that they go in deeper, like how to change a campaign?
How to change a campaign in sixty days? Y'all gonna
(22:27):
use Michelle as a real example, you know, and that
had everything to do with knocking on doors, and she'll
tell you.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't want hear nothing. She was talking about, well,
what did you usually girl? Yeah? Okay, how many doors
you knock on? How many doors you knock on? Why
did well? I went up? Okay again?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How many doors? How many doors? Stand on the scale.
I will stay. I will make a cannon stand on
the scale. Because if you on the scale and you
losing weight Michelle lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, you knocking?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, you ain't gonna be able to just be
the same size of one says and tell me you
knocked on doors alongbo Florida. You not.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Ain't no way in else stand on the scale. I'm
like this life. You're lying.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
If I could do a reality show, I would do
a reality show and nobody probably Oh God, please blessings
so I can get rich or have enough due raft,
because I would do a reality show on the candidate,
making the candidate, and I would take a candidate.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
One like you to keep trying it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And follow them through a six month campaign and show
everything to come with that.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It'll be a hell of a show.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, because you ain't got no scripts in that.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, show you everything come with it. The family dynamics,
the drama. The I'm telling it be a hell of
a show. You think house will all, it'll be a
hell of a show because people don't have no clue,
you know, like what goes on behind you know what
I mean, like behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I would absolutely do that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
That's a good idea, being hell of an idea.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And have you staying before me? Okay, Marcel, did you knock?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I figured, okay, Well, this is why you're losing. The
polls are saying, I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I gotta make y'all good and mad whatever finish line. No,
do you want to win or not? It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well, I had work life balance. Just my Canada's on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I gotta gill and scream all over them, just like
the other day.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Regina, Well, let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Let me tell you. I don't need you tell me.
I'm telling I'm telling you know, hanging up on me.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Oki Doki.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Got plenty of Oki dokies trying to send me plenty
of big guys. Her thing since attorney is I'm leaving
the event. That's what she's saying. When she's done talking
about it, I'm leaving the event.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You can leave it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm gonna peel right back up the next time. And
that's fine. Another thing, we say, we're riding in the
car in silence, No problem, We'll just be in silence.
You can go twenty hour ride like mentally, you know,
like we're going through something and I disagree with something
she's doing. I'm definitely gonna tell her. And she'll say, well,
we riding in the car and silence on this one,
no problem. We're still in the car together. We just
(25:18):
won't be talking.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And I don't give it. Damn how long the road
trip is.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On a five day road trip and neither one of
us saying nothing, but still in the car together and
very clear that we got two different ways on how
we do this.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's that's our little thing.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And she quick and quick and tell you she don't
take else.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, I'm gonna taking no. Why say you're gonna worry
about me coming out there and saying nothing caddis from
the back end. But when you got your mind made up,
be how you gonna do it? And I think the
other way. Yeah, no, y'all got it. I still support
you in the back end.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That's what Bernie Sanders. They wanted me to come to Florida.
I said no, I'll just take fans in Michigan first.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
What you APIs do rule my reputation in Florida because
I'm stomped down here.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh no, I know y'all don't want to put the resources.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I know you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I know you know what I'm saying. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
See they get caught. Oh no, he good Canes do
have nothing to do with no good camp. This is
about the do you have the mechanics to win? Had
nothing to do with this is the right one. This
is who we need.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They don't have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Winning or very little to do with it, very little
to do with it. The lady that ran against Cela
Turner is not that. The dynamic is her.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
She can't rock the mic like her.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
She don't have a national cachet, she couldn't raise the
money like send a bunch of things.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But she won twice.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So y'all get caught up on that's what we need.
They ain't got nothing to.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Do with nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Being away from home five to six years on the
national campaign hurt her period, among them many other things.
But I'm gonna always stand on that because we got
to be truthful. You know, I'm trying to get other
people to take the leap and understand.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know what you like.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Once you go national, you can't go back local. I'll
give you a perfect example before we close out. I
was local in Orlando. I did some national stuff, but
I'm clearly I'm national now you know what I meaning,
national commentator. If I came back to Orlando. I'm back
in Orlando, but I'm back knowing my place too as
(27:32):
a worker. You understand what I'm saying. I come back
saying I'm fisted, runn for office and all of that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Girl, where are you being? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We don't care about what you did prior to and
how you hear. Women over are working, you know what
I'm saying. So no, oh, so you think because you
went back at now, oh, you're blessing us finally back.
One of the people that ran against Virginia Hill, former
born and raised in Florida, former black Miss Black America,
(28:01):
Erica Dunlap, came back ran against Regina.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh I'm back now, I'm ready to serve. They set
her down.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I said, we'll take the woman who's been arrested twenty
one times over you, so you can't just think you're
gonna pop back up on the scene. You knowna call
shots and all of that, matter of fact, shut out
the commissioner burns, I saw him because the Orange County Commissioner.
(28:29):
I saw him at a sun dressers and sunsuckers, and
I mean serious suckers and sundressing in Atlanta a couple
of weeks ago. He said, well, you ain't gonna come
back trying to run. Who you talking to? Remember you
know me?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I don't know you. They told you about me.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, I'm coming back running, but I know you don't
want no problems with me either now hacking out. Oh,
I'll look out for you, look out for me. You
remember they told you about me, not vice versa. Army
is so relaxed, but the one nothing you know, run
for off. I'm coming back in mind of my business.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
But don't don't make no don't Then Ben said no dog.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
She really baptisted, like, don't don't get talk now, because
I ain't trying to be I'm this and I'm that.
You know I'm just back. Hey, y'all, testling home. Let
me know if I can help out, you know what
I mean. That's my attitude. M same thing with Atlanta.
I tell y'all, not is crash me out in Atlanta,
the Atlanta take over.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And all that.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh hell no, I know how somebody run your ass
about the city.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh nothing, we ain't doing none of that. You ain't crashing.
I know what the crash look like.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And I ain't falling for And the person who did
that crashed out on her own, known for crashing out.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh no, we ain't doing that. Don't disrespect.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But I'm saying said she had no better, No, ma'am.
You know, y'all talk me to that. I'll come back
in ORLANDA hey, y'all, I'm ready to pick up where
I left off. But if it ain't where I left off,
and y'all knew direction, y'all tell me what the direction is.
And I'm you know, but I'll help what I can
and what I can't I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It ain't gonna walk.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Ain't no walking in here trying to tell nobody, you know,
because for the last ten years they've been doing the
work just because I've been in contact on me. Nothing
they've been doing the work. You know what I'm saying.
So that's just what it is. Yeah, and they don't
care about why I've been doing the work on the
national level, don't care about you wasn't over an orange
out using X y Z. Yeah, So come in, move quiet,
(30:27):
be quiet, know your place, and we'll be covering that
on crash out Don't crash Out webinar, because that's that's
the webinar y'all need with the quickness how to not
crash out because they stay crashing out.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
All progresses to shine. Sign up for this. One thing
progression know how to do is lose a race and
crash out. Name everybody for it.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It ain't even no progressive moving no more the way
you know they was talking about in twenty sixteen and eighteen.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
It so over with. So thank you for your additional questions. Marcella.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I'm sure you got more. But guys, go back watch
training one. Sign up for training two, which will be
what I say, January, I'm not January July July twelve.
That's training two. Then after that Marcella said he don't
want them on three weeks for time. He said, you
need the energy in it. J ain't change he said
he ain't waiting for nobody. So right after that, we're
(31:20):
gonna knock him on that because I want to be
done with this by August. My first week in law school,
uh is August fifth, and I know a lot of
information gonna be coming at me and I don't want
to put y'all on hold, So we're gonna do two
you know, due course too. I'm doing that because MYRLF.
I want to see how long it takes people to
go back watch the replay, you know. I'm trying to
figure out what kind of line pushes we got do.
(31:42):
Y'all go back and watch it, quick do, y'all sign
up for the next one. Quick do. Y'all need two
weeks to get it together, you know. So I'm monitoring
that too. But after that, we're not monitoring anything.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
We're going with. This is gonna be available, y'all. Go
back and watch it, y'all do, y'all do? Yah No,
y'all don't.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So I can get these five out because I don't
want to have y'all, you know, waiting, you know, dress
it out through the fall, So knock out the five.
Then after that we'll do the webinars once a month
on specialized stuff. I know I can manage that my
schedule and then.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
We move it on. We're moving on that, see all.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Right, guys, so make sure you sign up. I've been
running some specials ten dollars off if you put in
the coupon code Let's go l T sgo. You heard
Marcelo's ask how much these classes are. It's very affordable.
But I do need y'all to pal on in and
come on in, you know, so that it can be
just being honest with you guys. I know y'all don't
(32:34):
want to hear because 'all think everything supposed to be
for free. But everything I've done, blood, sweat and tears, money,
I'm putting it. This time I putting it is moving
in five and see the different states working in twenty
thirty campaign doing all day like this is actual real
expertise that you're getting. And typically if I was sitting
in front of attorneys doing a training on PR and
media how they work with activists, I'm going to hit
(32:57):
up every attorney for twenty five hundred per just so
we're clear. So you guys get between forty and fifty bucks.
That's a real good sweet spot. Of scenes, you know,
really affordable for people. Two hours webinar and content prior
to Possibly everyone may not have a lot of content
because it may just be talking. But y'all definitely got
(33:18):
two hours yesterday. Questions answered. I answered everybody's questions. I'm
interactive on the course dashboard. You know, I'm responding to
people got dishal question, So you you are getting it all.
So I'm asking support it, but don't just support it,
bring a friend, support the division the program period. I'm
just one person. For example, Marcelli's is my right hand.
(33:39):
He was helping me with the comments yesterday. So I
didn't have anybody for the It was only three of
y'all that didn't go try to log in pre you know,
prior to like I told y'all to.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
So it was only three of y'all, which is a
no big deal.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It would have been way more Marcello's, wouldn't it If
I hadn't did all those multiple emails and multiple stuff,
would have been way more. That's why you get all
this up in advance instead of doing like Marcella's bringing
a step and repeat day of always at least three
Marcello's is in the room to do some day of
Lady email me twice old, it's so frustrating two o'clock,
two fifteen. I email her back next day, baby, that
(34:13):
was at two o'clock. I said, once the training starts,
we're done with troubleshooting. Troubleshooting so to be prior to
we did We were able to correct the couple somebody
said they couldn't get in. Somebody was going under a
different email. Another person was logging in the wrong place.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
But they did that prior too, you know, so we
had time.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Ye when you had to help out somebody, it took
maybe about an hour and a half to finally figure out,
you know, what she was doing. We don't have that
kind of time if the class started at two o'clock.
You see what I'm saying. So support the program guys,
so that I can expand the staff and you know,
do more. I'm not in no rush. I think this
is gonna be what it needs to be by next year.
But support it, guys. Keep us in business for it
(34:52):
gotta be virtual because that's the only way I can
afford to. You know, do it all all the emails, y'all, see,
go out all the text, all the posts.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's me.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm literally one woman show until day of you know
where you see. Marcella's helping me out, which I'm so grateful,
But other than that, I'm doing all the back end.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I got a.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Whole sheet of people I need to go through the
day and change some daytime and all types of stuff.
So I'm really working, y'all for real, So support the
program and we appreciate it, and we'll see y'all next time.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Y'all peace peace.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
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