HOW TO: Prepare for Law School part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ye, don't ask your question real.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's just keep it real straight shout with no chasing.
I'm gonna get a little bit roughtured.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Those who really believed in the American process, all of
us street shot no chase with your girls, tend to
figure out on the black effect.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Podcasting at work ain't work.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Real quickly when when a when a case is appealed
and it's reverse, do we go back to the original
judge or.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Do they usually sending to somebody else?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, the Pello court needs to final say have a
high go They don't have to go back anywhere.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hearers.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
If you go to your daddy and they say, we'll
go to your mama, So think about it that way.
If daddy say yeah, you can go out and mama
say no, you can't guess who the Pello cord is
in that situation, Yes, who is it?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm gonna get this is gonna be the month.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Right, be the monk you don't know, don't have to
be the dad. But most cases, the mother is the peliples.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
The freeing court. In most you know old schools, go
ask your mama. I know they say the men should be.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
But right if we want to truly go down to
child rearing. You know from the old school, men usually
left that to the women. Now somebody would take what
I said whatever being saying that and say, see that's
a problem, y'all independent. We didn't want to do it
all listen to the daddy. So we actually go back.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
To traditional who your children. The women did so renfond.
They would always say, ask your MoMA what she said
about a lot of my business, you know what I mean.
They didn't get involved in that, honestly. You know, I
ain't watching the game they're doing. They doing men folks stuff.
They're not they they put their foot down whatever. But
when it comes to raising the children, rearing the children,

(01:52):
the fight was very clear.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
A whole their role is. See they would have took
what I said and thought I was saying, I don't
listen to no man here, don't know. It's actually the
quite opt so child rearing. Yes, the mother is the
supreme court, and I'm not taking nothing back to your dad,
you know what I mean. So that's what that's why
it's called the appellate court the supreme court. But you
know you have to stay supreme court. And you got

(02:14):
fed them Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, that's what I mean, because I know I've seen
the case and it was it was like enough, Uh,
it was an appeal and and and the appellate court
they set it back down to.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
The to the lawyer, the low lower courts.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Back down. They didn't accept the appeal. So it's they
just send it anywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
They just said, I'm not I'm not gonna give you
an app I'm not gonna grant you an appeal. I
want you to use right terminology. I'm not sending it
back to you. I'm not saying Marcella's look at this again.
I'm you're coming. That's why it's called appeal. Hey, I'm
appealing to the Supreme Court to say I don't agree
what the district judge said. Will you take my appeal?

(02:53):
They have to say yes, I will or I won't.
That makes sense. Yeah, that's why when you're in court,
every time you hear an attorney's objection and all of that,
a lot of that is for appeal purposes. Because if
you try to appeal and you didn't show that that

(03:16):
was something you tried to stop or put in or
you know, you'll see a lot of it I'll take
you to the watch only cisent case. But a lot
of time that says, just for the record, can't you
just put it on the record, And they'll say, no,
that know it.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
You know that's tight. I'm not gonna get it. I'm
not I'm not gonna grant you what you're asking.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But okay, judge, but can't you put it on the
record because I wanted to be known that I did ask.
You're telling me no, and it's fine. But in appeal,
I'll be That's what I'll be appealing. If we look
at Diddie's cases, he has a lot of grounds for appeal,
whole lot of grounds for.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
A pill may not be worth that.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I wouldn't appeal if I was him, because you got off.
You got off the hardest charges, you know what I mean,
and just leave it alone. I wouldn't take a chance.
But you know, people like him, they like what they
want to do. I would take a chance and your
pill and then she you know what I'm saying, you're asking,
do you like? Oh? Jay? They get y'all back in
so often model because the harshest charges you were quitted for.

(04:16):
But sometimes people get caught in their ego, and they're like, no,
we got grounds of grounds sport pill.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's a pillot. Yeah, you got grounds for a pill.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
But you also you gonna you only had to do
this one little time. You can't take the way this
year that you've already done, you know what I mean.
So when he gets sentence, it's more like only time served,
but two three more months. You can't go back in
time and take it away. So do you want to
go do you want to take a chance to prove
a point? And then you know what I'm saying, they
tell you, you know what, this time we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Get We're gonna give it to y'all. You know what
I'm saying. Those are the things you don't just push
a line to push a line.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, want to take it. So all of that,
you know, he got grounds, that gotten a lot of
grounds for a pill. When they found out that witness
was not there at the time that she said she was,
and they just decided to say, well, we're just not
going to give that to the Jersey.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Look at that's a major ground scoort pile. I ain't that.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So things like that is you know, so you want
to know it. You want to have the receipt on
the record. Well, remember I told you, you know, I
do a lot of that in my daily stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
We're working with you. I'm like, well, I just want
you all to note this.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Remember this, because you're always a timeline, you know, development
come back, you always come back.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
And why they always go just line, she.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Said, just like all of that is like a part
of like being a trial turn if I'm you know
all of.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
That like okay, just okay, let's keep on building case.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Again.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Okay, well you didn't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, if they will, let's see and then this is
this and clients they say they got it, they know
it all together, but they got it all together. Okay,
Well pay the return return fee and brings loves retainer fees,
especially from people that think they attorneys. So just no problem.
You can pay all of the turn fees you want
to attending you want to do it, that's kind of

(06:16):
turn't gonna do the way you wanna do it the
way I'm gonna do it because I'm not gonna talk
resk you about it. You're gonna pay that fee though,
or I'll just send to be like listen, I'm gonna
let you try your case because I don't like lulising.
So the way I want to do what you're gonna
do the way I want to do it, so we
actually win. I'll take them what you say and too consideration,
but I'm not interested in losing, So go ahead and

(06:38):
take your case somewhere else. Somebody else will say, which
is why they say attorneys can be snakes, will say,
no problem. I'm gonna let you think whatever you want
to think as long as you keep paying very retainer fee.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
We can lose or not.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Don't make no difference. I'm here for the money. I'm
gonna give you the best advice I possibly can. If
you assist on throwing the way you want to do it,
no problem.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Just pay for it.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
You got the right to pay whatever you're gonna pay for.
Then there's something be like, No, I'm just not gonna
do this because I know you ain't gonna win. I
don't feel good about it.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Minetary won't line to do it or with me not
just integrity. I don't wasn't taking a loss, so I
won't work on the campaign. If I feel like it's
a loss.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, you won't. I don't take you it, I.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Don't want to take I will do it for the
sake of doing it. No, it's okay, that's okay. I'll
do them on them back end.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
You know, I may talk about it and consult with
you about it, you know, but I'm gonna be out
there saying, oh, you know, such and such gonna win,
and this is who.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Gonna you know, and all that.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I know.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I don't know. I just know I want love that
the people decide. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But then there's times where I take a firm position,
like with Vice President Harris, this is a setup.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
She will lose.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
It's very clear about that.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
And that's exactly what happened. Not only did she lose,
they got molly wopped back and the popler and the
electoral College every last swings so it wasn't just no
close blots. It was a absent would Hillary at least
they could say, well she wanted to you know, they

(08:12):
say for everything and say, well, Hillary were on the
popular everything were in neither one. You ain't popping Oh yeah,
they ain't playing with you. Every last swing state. I
didn't you saw me do that in real time. The
ain't gonack listen to podcasts. I told you, ain't no
way this swing state, this is not going that. They
got this ship already. Now they did Arizona in the body.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
It was over with the couple of chances they had
to flip blue.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It wasn't gonna happen with Arizona in the bottle because
then white women got a chance to steal vote for
abortion and steal ball against her.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
And that's aught. That's Democrats brand. They can't plagn on abortion.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yep, if you're giving me my cake in and ice
cream too, I'm gona go with that. It was a
complete but I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Forward to her book coming out. I can't wait to
read the whole page one say.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
They sent me up finally, Yeah, because people so thought
she was gonna win down And in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well, yep, y'all people love the delusion. It makes them
feel good, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
They look at it as all that to me that
looks like me is similar to me, And kind of
like when people project. If I say I don't want
to date a man to make I'll say two hundred
thousands says. Usually they say they don't want to make
nobody make court. I only want to date a man
to make fifty thousand. Anybody that make old fifty thousand
gonna hear that as an insult, even though I'm not
trying to date you. That's just my preference. Or I

(09:39):
only like blue I like blue collar men me personally.
That's a real thing white collar men get offended by.
It's usually the other way around. You know where you
were where you said I don't want date blue collar guys.
I don't like white collar guys. They project what are
you saying?

Speaker 3 (09:51):
What's wrong with me?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So people personalize that a lot, and that's the issue.
So so saying she's not gonna win was translated to
I'm not enough for black women. I'm more qualified. Why
come I can't get it? Why can't I win? You know,
and taking not taking any of the realities of America

(10:15):
in the place. Nobody said that you're not the most qualitized.
It was never The question is where are we in
this moment? There's only been two people that lost to
Donald Trump, and both of them are women. He presents
far too much masculinity, as they would like to say,
you know, for a woman to ever have a chance
against him.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Period.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
He brings out the hyper alpha whatever you want to
call it. He brings that out of white men, Black men,
Hispanic men, and it's always gonna make a woman look weak.
The level of masculinity that he's all gonna always make
a woman look weak, so that when people think about it,

(11:00):
even for women, people think about, is this the person
I want to leave? Men in an army, you know,
in a war, when you're going up against somebody that
that has that much masculine And people when I say that,
they say, he ain't no being that ain't I'm not
talking about that, you know manhood and what you think
manhood is.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I'm talking about his bravado, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
His hiseness, his rudeness, his bruptness, his boldness, his all
of the thing, all.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Of everything that's not SOFTD.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
If I say that, and if we just be honest
with him being a liar and all, if you say,
who you wanting to foxhold with you.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Cool? Would you want it?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
This liar, manipulator, con artists, bully? Is that what you
want fighting for you on your side?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Be for real? Let's be honest. I really that's how
men commission Hill came free. And she said I really
hadn't wiviied it against me. He fell out. She's like,
oh no, I said a whole wonder against me.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know what I'm saying that that's people's mindset when
they talk about surviving. Yeah, but okay, he a liar,
but I rather him lie for me and against Yeah,
you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, you you comparing that.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
To the woman just the the optics alone until that
being the leader of the free world. So yeah, and
Biden was damn show looking weak but still like a
woman peered, just stuff that this was never about knowledge
and who knew and all.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It don't nothing to do with nothing. He got to
do it.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Uh, at the middle of the night, if you hear noise,
who do you want to go into the front door
of Donald Trump or Harris?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
This, Yeah, that's why they do those commercials historically that
Hillary Clinton did it. But it didn't work that Uh,
they got I think Killy got an ad and you know,
like where the fall reason in the middle of the night,
the red button and nuclear button and all that. Logical
people say, I'd rather have Hillary Clinton. She's logical. She
doesn't you know she's not gonna just push the button.

(13:06):
Trump is gonna crash out blah blah. Yeah, that's logical, right,
But there's another side of a coin that also says,
if we going against Russia and we fight, I wan't
the one that's gonna man no costs, you don't care
what we gotta do and make sure we come out
of live and go break.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
The rules and go do it.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
There's another sign that thinks that, whether you like it
or not, there's another and he taps into that very well,
very and if I say that, no, you stand up
for Trump, you praise it Trump. I'm telling you what
it is, tell him what it is. And that's why
he did.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
A woman could never beat him. Shit talking, Jasmine Crockett, Whoeverbert.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
He's a white male, white supremacies meaning always in the
supreme top privilege, white man that feels he can say
and do whatever and is above the law and has
shown y'all he's above the law, y'all that he is

(14:12):
the rule of law. You can snap your fingers and
roll your men all day. That that's hard to be.
Just is and that's why demcrasts can't get a hold
of it. They don't have the intended They don't have
the counter to that.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Even though they think Jazzmin got him, No, she can.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Never do it.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
To take a white man to do that and white crime.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
You know, it's great, boring viral and all that.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I'm talking about like tay, you know, you need
what John Sapiro or he was the closest newman was
the club, the closest you know, but even sealed them crasts.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Just play nice m hm. And you got somebody play dirty.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Just the kid on the that's me on the on
the court. That's gonna talk about everybody and your family
don't care about from my mother grave, you know what
I mean, They're gonna be the last somebody gonna get
put the tears and so Trump fights like that, and
so when you don't fight like that, you need a
white man know how to fight like that. News is

(15:17):
close to the governors Clapforni. But people ain't gonna want his
liberal policies. But he'll be good to have, you know,
to have on the stage as somebody possibly run it.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
But I don't think he.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Should be nominated, but he'd be good to shape stuff up.
M but anyway, all or that's why I trying to
make this John Stewart to be good, because he got
that white privileged.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
He talked that shit. He's entertainer, you know he can
you know all of that. You know New Yorker.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Can even look some up.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
John Stewart the Daily Show.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh I ain't never watched that. I know that he
watched it.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, he's he fought for the firefighters, not on one
h not a little vi brus, got lots of stuff jump.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I definitely he's.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Entertainer, just like your entertainer. And they think they're like, hey,
you should go run it. I don't think it happened
me in a man, I don't know. But somebody that
can match that energy like that, that's a white man.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh folk, believe do you want to stay here? Think
about the bar with the lyrics we were talking about.
Definitely day on the job.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
We was just quick before we get out of yeh,
Lady Marcellus laughing, damn the loss of light on the
white laughing.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
She's surprised, I know, but she does said, damn there
loss of like.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yah, yeah, Eve I read today that. I guess when
they was going to lunch or whatever. One of the
people were saying that tests she said they had a
step one word. They was like it was just that,
it was just they it was something they never seen before.
And I was you know what we were talking about.
It was like, dam is this worse than the military?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Because dang, hey, they ain't playing is what it is.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
You know, the wire is usually over a two three
day period.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Three hours, then you take a brady to come back
for another three hours and the next day and all that.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
They're not stopping none of that for you. So you
all they're doing is simp the same. Just need rescheduled.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
After you get done half yards, everybody else.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is moving on.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
We're not stopping all of this. I've been preparing for
this for years. I'm ready to go, you know what
I mean, I'm ready?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
So was they some what a you want them to do?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
All right? Everybody gonna have to reschedule.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
You fucking line left there prepared. Didn't you better stay?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
No, no, no today today you may not be sad here
we're not together.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I can't be all of them ourselves like this is
you get an extra time because they're gonna reschedule that's
what the barn't given you no extra time. See that's
you look at the time. You look at the warnings
and times and all that. It ain't the.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Time is now you either here or you're not. That's it.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But this was to be the person life before the day.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's why we stepped up. What her life don't doing mine.
I'm ready to take the bars.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Because we're not supposed to be more worried about her.
Didn't worry about that example.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, no, you got it all confused. That's how the
legal profession works. If the deadline is the deadline, you know,
to submit the information. That's the deadline. The judge don't
want to hear about what you're talking about. But if
you are next limitation, No, I'm trying to tell your
mindset of just being attorney. It don't ain't no but

(18:53):
this that none of that. Look, that's what it is.
The period you fail, you're flying. That's why you got
on your shit. That's where everybody don't get in. That's
why everybody don't make it past the year. That's why
everybody don't make it to the bar. That's why even
when people get the bar, they lose their bar life.
You know what I mean, like this, you are a
public servant. Ain't nobody at that time of that shit
you're talking about. It's just like when the military is

(19:16):
not just like that is the toughest.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I don't give a damn.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't care what nobody say. They can try to
make what it's like it and nothing it's like the military.
It'll be clear, mabotter.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
That made me saying, oh, nothing's like this, never, nothing's
like this. You're never gonna have nothing like this. Respectfully,
y'all never had none like the military. Just so we're clear,
this is hard. It's not the military military teaching you.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
To go fight and warren literally, you know. So that's
all about breaking your ass down mentally and everything else.
So no nobody has time for this shit you're talking about.
That's why people think I'm rougher and I'm not this
that the civilian line set. But my mother was like that,
you know what I mean, it's not about excuston. You

(19:54):
either got it done or you didn't get it done.
If you didn't get it done, you just didn't get
it done. Nobody wants to hear it after the dog
get your homework. Is that you did not get it done.
And if you did not get it done, figure it out.
And what you did not do is going to show up.
That's why I always teach you about to step or
a peat, but it's it's you know, it's no big deal,
But I'm showing you how when people are gonna do,

(20:16):
it shows up.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
When attorneys don't prepare, it shows up. If you go
to class and learn, they call on you, it shows up.
We don't know who knew and who don't know. We
don't know who. We know you're not gonna get every
answer right, but we know who took time. You know
he prepared.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
We know whom taking this shit serious and who ain't
taking this it. We know who's thinking, oh yeah, I
can just do what the day of.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like when we do the training, I say.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Y'all need to check, make sure you can log on.
Don't wait till the day, wait today. Others don't show
me you didn't py attention to one of them things
I sent you. That's why y'all get in trouble when
you run for office and you get in and then
now they saying, misuse the funds.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
You ain't reading everything.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know what I mean? You ain't you just you
see what I'm saying that that matters. I know, well,
everybody to do everything. But when everybody do everything, sometime
they do it read well. But sometimes you not having
the structures in the place, you know it's gonna show up.

(21:23):
That's why all like the podcast space anybody can do it.
There's no entry point, and that's why you're see it
more and more and more people get in trouble Fried
Soul all, you know, because a microphon could be a
very dangerous thing. Well, you don't have no you're just
saying whatever, everything's just whatever. Let's just you know, whatever
shows up. You want to be a license attorney, this

(21:48):
is what it is. If you want to do something else,
go do that. Don't come to the military thinking the
military is going to adjust to you. This is.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
This is a military. You can't make it. Let's go
as in your ass home. That's it.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
After the first semester, everybody in my class ain't gonna
be in my class. After the first year, half the
class may not be back.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'm and I'm just telling you now. I'm clocking it. Now,
I'm seeing somebody. If you listen to it, I guess
just listen to it. But class late, I've been clocking
how many times? And it might just because you know
he's working full time. You know he's driving from one
place to the other, you know that type of stuff.
But it's clocked because I'm clocking it. You think the
professor ain't clocking it. You just ain't clocking hound that

(22:38):
every day thirty minutes ahead of time in the front seat.
And now I'm not doing that, your press. That's who
I am. And you know, yeah, that's why tools, Marcel.
This is how to show up. You know, I tear
law school ain't teaching you.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
You you you're we're gonna know.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know what I'm saying you You either gonna learn
in real time because anybody gonna take you to the side.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
But when materials start getting hard.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
If you're not getting it, I'm gonna be thinking about
this was the one that came in late every day?
Or am I gonna spend more time with that student
that I know it's active in class, that's giving all
they have, you know, that's making an effort, that's showing
up on time, that's coming to office hours, that's going
behind you know, it's giving the supplemental information that's helping
out to other suits. All that make a difference how

(23:26):
you perform. I can easily go on and be like
I think I miss I'm that Oh no, I'm even hesitating.
I really struggle, like how much do all of these
people know about me? Because I don't want an expectation
on me that I know because I don't. I am
absolutely operating from the I don't know nothing boutshit. No, seriously, yes,
they'll the military do that too, Like when you thank
you the one you you Oh no, I okay, do

(23:47):
these push us?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Then learn it?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I had to learn that, you know what I mean, Like,
you gotta learn they'll break you if they think that
you come in with a certain level of whatever. You think,
we're gonna hungle your ass and you gonna know you
gonna make it.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Tough, you know what I mean. So, and it's just
the fact I don't know. I like learning. I want
to learn.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm an email, I'm a gold in the office out
say I ain't getting this. You know, I don't have
no pro That's why I love you because you're like, hey,
I got a question. I don't have no problem, ask
no question. Let me figure this out.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Those are the kind of those that's how to be
successful in any program. You know, what is the effort
you're putting forward? You're not putting no effort at all
in anything? Why should I put effort into you? And
then you come out of o'clock. This person came into
two late two three times. And then you walk in,
strolling in with a very stroll like, you know, walking in.

(24:41):
I'm even looking at how fast you walk into the sea.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
You know what I'm saying. You know, when you're lady
and you feel bad for being late, you know you
want to late. You know my apology?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, now I found telling not stuff that stuff matters. Yeah,
you just walking in easy Sunday morning and sitting down.
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
The teacher has even said to the they said we
was in the back and saw y'all laptops up and
seeing puzzles up and Facebook, and and she said, I'm
saying to myself, they need to hear everything we talking
about it.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
This is day one of orientation. How dare you have
your laptop up?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
You know, even though all I had enough because I
was before class started, I did this and that no, no, no,
close it put it down.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Let them know.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
See, that's the kind of stuff that I'm seasoned. Being older,
you know, happen to be in a gay I know
those A lot of people just don't know that. They
just ain't had enough life and speak. That's why they
said part time student threw better technically because working professionals
and older. But our class goes all the way from
twenty to twenty to all the way to the sixties

(25:48):
to be class, you know, did a lot of diversity.
But like those, that's the kind of thing I know.
Like I had my laptop up before class started today.
It wasn't even class, it was just orientating on an
optional day. I didn't have to, but I wanted to
come to at least some of the optional day. I
made a point to do that. I think I was
probably the only part time person that's there, but you know,

(26:09):
people work them today, so nobody's holding it that against them.
But it was deadinitely noted that I was there. God
is stayful the whole thing. Because they wanted to do
a barbecue, and you know, I don't. I didn't want
to sit around for that, but I came for the
history you know, the two hour history presentation. I actually

(26:33):
wanted to know the information. You know, I'm not going
because I just you know, want to be impressive. But
I do know that that is looked at. You know,
I look at with even my training class. You think,
Chris go, it's a training class.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Like that stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I pay attention. People pay attention to that. Who that's
how white you here.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
From that? You know, that type of engagement, that type
of when you when you it ain't not knowing it everything.
It's about who really who walked this?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know what I mean? Ain'tbout kissing ass ain't about anything.
It's just who's the eager stuit. Who's the one that
want to like? You know, who's the That's that's how
you win. That's how you get pulled a party. It
ain't always be because you're the brightest or the smartest,
or that is or that.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
It's that alone.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Your effort alone can take you a long way. Your effort,
your attitude can take a long way. And one thing
for sure, I'm gonna put effort. I'm gonna absolutely put
an effort. And you can't faith in Marcella's you either
have it? Are you doing and and and seizing people
who know how to recognize it. You can't fool them.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
M And I'm not trying to impress. And that's just
who I am, you know what I mean. I'm in there.
Everybody got their laptop.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I got my laptop, but I got fifty pages of
printed out, you know what I mean. Like I'm looking
through I'm pulling stuff out on this on that you
think that people don't see that? I know because I
would if I was an educator. You know, like, oh, okay,
you know where everybody is, so how much do it
cost the print? You know there is a tensay and
cost the print an with now they may not have it,
you know, So I'm not judging. I'm just saying those things. Yeah,

(28:07):
you know, I also know though, you know how to
do what you get what you want.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
To get though you know it. I don't think got
everything else, Uber eats and everything else.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know what I'm saying, y'all, I'll love you sound like, yeah, y'all,
y'all know how to get what you want?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Now, ain't nobody you know how to get what you want?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Like ladies mom telling me about the print. Okay, I'm
gonna take the print, like, yes, take it, don't just
wait on the print. Something in the dorm whereby handing
roast you can have your stuff. You know, that's like
the stuff y'all figure out how do everything else? It's
called prioritizing and discipline And you don't want to be
held accounta before it. You just want to be able

(28:50):
to oldlight and they call me, yeah, you figure out
about them sandwiches every other day. So how about I
mean he rolling news today because I'm gonna go spend
this twenty dollars on print this stuff out. Then don't
come talking to me about knowing what can't be done.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
No, no, no, yes it can.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I'm one of the bests, you know, talk for the
place of privilege because she was an engineer, she had
a husband and you know they made money and all
of that.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
So she's talking for a place for I'm telling you,
as not having it, I know how to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
So for those of us that they had it, don't
sit there talking to me about like what can't be done,
because I know what can be done and it will
require sacrifice. You don't want to make the sacrifice because
I know what it means to get I my friend said.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Well, what do you be buying for grocers? Who buy
what for grocers? Baby?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I got a sandwich meat, you know, little Jada not
here with me. I had to cook no meal every day,
some to make some sandwiches with, some to make some
salads with, and three or four little uh spaghetti. See,
y'all would never look at my said, looking at me
now like who I would never know for sure, y'all
can see look.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
At me with pure discuss No down meean three floors
Spaghetti's thought.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know, little Micael wave good, I'll show you how
to eat off sixty dollars for two weeks. That's it.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
No, I I definite know because you gave me some stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, but you look at me will pure disgust. See
I don't beat I eat for nutrition every now and then.
You don't get your good men whatever. But I'm saying,
if I gotta make it and I gotta speak around, Okay,
this budget, you know, am I gonna put the twenty
dollars on printing because I need to.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
See this now because now this is not just for me.
They call it blue booking. I want to see it
in the book.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I'm want to circle it on the paper, and I
want to see it on the laptop, you know what
I mean. I know I'm gonna need it three or
four or five different ways.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I may take it. Those cases, I'll just be sitting.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Up in my bed like I done, cram cram cram
all day in front of computers and then at night
because what am I doing. I'm just sitting there, you know,
So I don't have the paper next to me and
just skim it. Not even that might be the fifth
time I've read it, and I still may not be
getting it, you know what I'm saying. But I'm just
reading it over and over and over until it clicks
or something like that. That type of stuff, those types

(31:10):
I have to work hard, you know. I have to
work hard for me to really grasp I Like Michelle,
She's like, I don't lose way easy.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I have to really wear hard, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
She's like, I just I gotta run a lot, I
gotta do a lot of cardio, gotta watch it. You know.
Some people just wave to s fawn off and they
just you know, and then there's so it's like, no,
I gotta really put in an effort, you know what
I mean, don't come easy for me.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
So you have to know, like you know, what what
what does it take? And that means sitting in this house,
you know, all day, all night, not having nothing, you know,
and getting this information down.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Do you want to make the sacrifice or not?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's that simple because your lack of reparations, that's gonna
show up.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Anyway. We are way over time.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Check this out, guys, if you listen to this one,
I'm gonna do part one in part too, because we're
way over and I don't want to bore you out
of this.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
So if you're listening this at the end, check out
part one.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
This has been my first week and orientation of law
school and thanking ourselves for joining me and having this conversation.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
We are ending the season. We have I believe one
more episode to go and then we are ending the season.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I will be back and we'll be reshaping it to
a how to. Everything's going to be how to and
move wave forward. I am gonna take a bit of
a break because let's get this law school, you know,
Let's get this down. Let's get again sacrifice, Let's get
some disciplined down, Let's get some scheduling down. You know,
let's get all of that and we'll be back. So

(32:50):
one more episode for the end of this season, and
that it won't be long. It'll probably be September rodel
you know, it won't be taking off too long. But
I am going to you know, get this down. You know,
let's get this system down first.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Again.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Those are the sacrifices you make if you want to
be successful. When you really think about it, law school
is truly three months in the fall and four months
in the spring, you know, three four months in the spring.
So think about how past.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Three months ago.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
You don't have that kind of time because basically you're
going August and September, September to October, October November, that's.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Three months then the finals.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
So if you say four months in December and then
you're on break, so you really are just like buckling
down for four months, take a break, come back, buckle
down four months again. If you look at it like that,
you know, like, let me just do nothing but grind,
you know, for four months, let me starve, let me
cut back corners, let me not work as much.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, let me I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I got all that in play, right, now you know
all my little stuff that I do outside it that
everybody knows.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
This is the priority.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
This is this, This is that you know, Jada straight,
you know all of that because you don't get that duo.
No do overs and it's a mid tim if you're
lucky in a final, but most times it's just one
final at nobody testing you throughout and warning you ourself.

(34:25):
We long way you're gonna know if you're getting it
throughout is to you know, be on your ship asking
questions and ask them afessor and study groups and all
of it. Because you're only gonna be tested once. Why
it ain't everybody I want to do a redo. I
don't take tests. Well, okay, you better know that going

(34:48):
in because I know what going in. I'm not a
good test taker either, So what does that mean I'm
gonna sit around and just say I'm not a good
test safer. I'm hold them to and knowing I'm not
a good test taker, right, you know what I mean?
Start utilize them. They give y'all tools, you know, sample, quiz,
a sample they even now they got access, they said
they never they never had that before they got access.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Is called world review where you can go in now
and like ask ques sample questions for the bar.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
They like take advantage of that, you know, like do
that so that that way, when it's time to take
the bar, you're not having a heart attack like that woman,
you know, not joking, but for real, like a level
of anxiety so damn high. You're so nervous because you
prepared for this for four years, for three years you
want to I know, for me, I'm wanna walk in,
it's it's gonna be nervous. So I'm gonna walk in
as confident as possible. And the only way you're gonna

(35:36):
reduce any of that anxiety for ourselves by being prepared.
Being prepared don't mean you're gonna be perfect perfect. It
just means you're comfortable enough to know that you know,
you're not totally lost in the in the space.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
And that's when my core deciess she said, isn't that hard?
Is the bar that hard? To the point you have.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Behind that, Yeah, absolutely, especially if you feel like you're
not prepared. You know, I'm nervous about law school, but
I'm not as nervous as I am before now because
I had them Lauren fundamentals, and I gave my all
and I.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Didn't cheat because that would have been just cheating myself.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I sat in this orientation, I got my materials, I
read through it, I did to my class. I shined
on that shit, and I'm like, okay, yeah, don't mean
every day gonna be that way.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're gonna be like this is crazy, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
But no, I'm like, okay, I mean, okay, Monday, I'm
excited to go, you know, not Oh shit, what is
it gonna be? You know, only because of the preparing
hum And that's what I'm doing all weekend. Do my
training of course, you know, two hours, which y'all been
after that, that's it. Take you a little nap, you know,
take you a break, you know, just sit up to

(36:46):
you know, take you a little break, go back, knock
out another two three hours, take you another break, knock
out for two three out in the middle of the
night when I bet can't sleep and I'm up read
something the seventies, same time you spend rolling on Instagram, resawing,
you know that type of stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
It's just trying to utilize every little time.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
You got. What else am I doing? I don't have
to go pick the baby up or feed the baby
in the middle of that. But that's why I set
it up this way, you know, to soul. I didn't
have to do appose thing because I know I had
to work hard. Yeah, and know yourself, and I don't
want to stop the start to mid decade to finish
my other degrees because I had to stop and start.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
You know, I gotta work. Got of this, I got
it that.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Okay, got to relocate, I gotta move, I got it. Okay,
I gotta take off six months back and get make in,
take off a year and get made it.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I I don't want to do that with this wanted.
This is the first time I've started a program and
we'll finish. And it's only because you know, I'm set
up now to do that. Anything that still happened like
in life, but you know my point, I'm bringing to
it already, Like Okay, the kid gonna be in college,

(37:51):
you know, living her life. Still still a mom, still
don't worry about it every day, still gonna you know,
but I don't have to pick her up cheerly in
practical I do this, do that, Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I know I can live below my kneans, so I
can go get a one bedroom to sleep on the floor,
need be, you know, so I can study, you know,
those types of things. I can't do that with a kid.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And I gotta make sure she's in a suburb where
she got access to a good school, which means I'm
paying more for rent or paying more for more issues,
means I gotta work.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
You know, all of those different things.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
You know that I take them to the sideration, which
will reduce the risk of me having to stop the program.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
That's always been my concern, getting in and stopping. That
was my being. Will I have to stop? Will life
and make me stop?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And now that thought the kid is the main thing,
because I can struggle by myself. I ain't got no
privut slipt in my car, you know. You know what
I mean that that that don't bother me skip. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I like living in nice places, as you know, but
it is not a requirement, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I will absolutely Coke give me a place in the hoods,
I will give me a roommate. I will rent a
room from somebody. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I on those things.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
So if somebody said and have no problem doing it, Okay,
somebody renting their room out two hundred fifty dollars a month.
You know what I mean, I will do it so
I know what I'm willing to sacrifice to get done,
you know, short, sacrifice for the bigger picture.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
This is my way I'm living now is not a requirement.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
It's it's a privilege because I worked hard, you know,
to be able to and also discipline, not just working hard,
but not spending on things I had, Like I don't
have a car here and I won't be get in
the car. But what I walked to school? Why you
off the school? Judge Parry said, Oh you better than me? Right,

(39:41):
you judge Perry, though you already judge Perry than me,
beautiful Cadillac. Escalate what I need to be paying? Why
would I pay extra month I live downtown. I had
to pay a couple hundred dollars a month apart to
know what When I can walk at seven minutes, even
if by over I even add that up, even if

(40:01):
I uber back and forth each day, I still will
spend less than three hundred dollars a month.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
A car payment is average now four four fifty. I've
been paying our Cardinal.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
The night in the late nineties was four h six,
so the average Cardinal, you know, four or fifty five,
you know, toelve Corolla or Hondo with that then insurance
two three hundred line. So no, Jada got the car.
I'll spend the money on her. She on her Hamn
car because she needed to be able to get on
and off campus. And I don't want to ask Verise
and begging for this and that, you know all that.

(40:36):
So my baby straight along, my baby straight me. I
don't want Jada when they go party, go place, she
got to ride with somebody, or gotta get a ride,
or who's gonna take the Walmart?

Speaker 4 (40:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
No, my baby straight. She got her own and I'm
glad the roommate got a car too. They got the
same car too.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
By the way, that's neat. But but now you you
you going, you got what you need. You're gonna be
straight along, My baby straight.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm good. I walked.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I order my groceries because I don't buy nothing that
you know, most people like to pick their groceries out.
I don't buy anything like it requires picking out, you know,
like my fruit I get, you know, the DAILI fruit.
So you know the thing of watermelon. If I picked
the wrong one, it's it's no different than me picking
the wrong one and they pick the wrong you know,
if the watermelon badage is bad.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I don't have to look at nothing. Nothing I don't
buy me to look at me. So my groceries is
of like my creamer called you know, stuff in box.
I may get some brollers, stuff, I may make some
I may cook every now they but when I'm by
myself mm hmmm, I give my few little items and

(41:45):
that's it and get that delivered.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
That costs. I did that today.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
My delivery costs seven dollars. I think it was seven
dollars and then three dollars for the tip. That's worth
not having a car to me, you know. And that's
that's my food for the week. But I'm done with
that now. All I do is just go down on
my lobby and pick it up. Not only am I
spending less, you know now I'm getting into That's not

(42:11):
because I don't want you to think, oh man, you're
doing that luxury.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
No, listen to what I'm telling you, you know, like,
listen to the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Not only am I spending less, I'm getting more convenient.
So when I'm spending less more convenience, I got more
time to study, so I don't have to go to
the growth store and do all of that. I'm also
not paying for parking. I'm not paying for gas. So
now that extra money, I can't afford to live where
I'm living because I'm putting the money into where I'm

(42:38):
living rather than a cardinal. And then I don't go
out like what it may seem like and think I
do not in Orlando now Atlanta different because I wave
over around and and lasting. But you know Lando, ain't
nobody going nowhere? And if I do, is right up
the street. The little place is the little hood, you know.
I like to go to it. They cost six dollars

(42:58):
to go right up the street and right back, and Bessie,
you don't and I won't be going that much.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
So for what I ain't ship there everybody way away?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
So what what I Everything I need right here at
my place, beautiful gym, beautiful pool. They got yoga free
classes that come Dave to these big events. Like everything
is literally like right here, and shit, I got to
sit on it and right in next door. So if
I want a little slurpye or I read out of
coffee this morning and walking this door got that, you
know in walk the school chap plains. I don't even

(43:33):
the other day I said I'm gonna try to see
by Walfall because it's always.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Raining here, and it was thundered, and I was like,
I'm gonna see if.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I can make it, you know, before it starts raining,
And I did, you know, I wanted to try at night,
you know, see how it is so sun nights.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I made Oprah just because there's a.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Little pocket that I'm not that crazy about that's kind
of after people can see. But Orlando's not busy downtown,
you know, at night.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
So sometimes I may just be let me just you know,
get a ride back. But I say, strapped too, I
will blow you off, just.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
As she was.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yeah, I mean, but like walking there, like walking in
the daytime. Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Even if I just walked there and uber back, you
know nothing else, you should be walking two class, you
know nothing else, and literally take me seven minutes. If
it was in Chicago or New York, where I live,
would more than likely be where you would park to
get somewhere, you know, because you park oftentimes you know
blocks away, blocks and blocks away, you know, New York

(44:31):
and Chicago, you ain't just pulling up to wherever you go.
You know, most places you might be two or three
city blocks down. You might be a seven minute walk easily,
you know, to wherever you're going. So where I live
is very normal. Now in the South, it's you know,
they got a parking to ride, So why would I walk?
You know, I could just drive and go around the
best in the South mentality, But I lived in Chicago.

(44:53):
If I was living in Chicago, this will probably be
my parking garage, you know, to where I'm trying to
go more than likely, you know, it's a seven minute walk.
Because if this parking garage was cheaper, then whatever was
close to the school, I'm gonna choose this one. Because
in Chicago you're talking about you know, two to three
hundred dollars a month, you know the park fifteen dollars
a day, you know, that type of money.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
So you're trying to find the cheapest, you know, off
the roll kind of park.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
You know, there was little parking lines and off the
covered garages and all of that. So you probably will
be about seven minutes away, you know, or you may
take a bus into downtown and have to walk you know,
a mile because the bus stops here and you're walking
the rest of the way and all of that. You know,
you're taking the train to get to the bus and
then the bus to get to the downtown. You know,
So in major cities like that, this is very normal.

(45:47):
So yeah, and you because especially going out, and I
learned that, and when I was in Chicago, it was caves,
it wasn't ubers. You definitely was waste. I definitely waste
my money in Chicago for sure, especially like you want
to go out and go to a club or a
lounge or something. You got to be looking for a
parking space. You're gonna be way way way down, you know,
you don't.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
You definitely want to care.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Just drop me off at the door and be done
with it, you know what I mean, you ain't. Definitely
it was a complete waste of time. I got boots,
I oh my car, I got tickets, all of that,
like it was a complete and then still having to
spend money to park it in where I was living.
So I would absolutely do not need a car in
like New York or Chicago, if you especially you live

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you're living downtown Chicago. Black people live on the south Side,
so you do want a car because they move around
a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
It's not the same. But in New York, no, you
truly you really don't have to have a car, right,
just a waste of money.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
So people got it obviously because people, you know, we
see the traffic, people commuting in and things like that.
But if you're living you know, like Ebony lives in Harlem,
you know, so she walk up the way to drop
the baby off. She you know, works at Hall. You know,
it's no point car for what she one thing all like,
we're just really talking. But only thing I don't know,
y'all was bear with it, y'all know, it's just like

(47:02):
a conversation. The only thing about where I live in Orlando.
It is downtown, I guess you could say, but not
the part of it, which means it would be nice
if I walked holl it could stop at a bar
or something like that, or get a glass of wine
or whatever. But then again, it's kind of cool because

(47:23):
where I really think about it, Orlando downtown is a
college town. So if I really would like I can
where I'm sitting now, I can hear music and stuff
like that, but I'm not in the mixed me.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
So it's cool, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
But most of downtown out it's young, and I don't
think I probably want to be necessarily in that either.
But that's about the only thing. It would be nice
that I can just walk downstairs if I want to
right now and just you know, walk off the street
if I want some wine or something like, just change
the scenery. So I don't really I don't have that
in front of me, but like I said, it's balanced
to it.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, I like downtown life.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well all right, y'all, Thank y'all. But listening to Straight
Shot No Chaser. When more episode, guys, I'm wrapping it up.
I will connect with you next time.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Thank you, Marcelves, thank you pe all right.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
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