January 18, 2024 • 36 mins
Tezlyn Figaro taps in with callers to discuss organizing and thow to handle negativity when trying to push the line.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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get right to it looks like we have we have
of terrain.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What's up, Jay?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And if you don't get my name right, I know something.
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, you came on to stop letting that body. If
pep mess on the time, sometimes just get it wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
All right, it's all good. First of all, it's good
to see you in twenty when they're falling, I'm glad,
can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes? I can happy to know your love. And I'm
justceiving about your name. But I don't mind. They can
mess up my name all day long, so I don't
bother me. But it's touring everybody, Hello Tom, no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm gonna try to be quick because I'm on the road.
A lot of the conversation when it talks about black
people and voting and what we need to vote for,
is led by people who are very condescending towards black people.
You talked about people who have back, and you see
people who might be doing a little bit better or
might be affluent black who are real condescending to people
who want to get involved in politics. But they may
not have the background and they may not have the connections.
(02:10):
So how can people who are coming from backgrounds. Maybe
they have a criminal record, and may they do some
things that may not be perfect, or they may not
be connected to the winding Champagne people. How can they
get motivated to motivate the people that they want to
motivate without doing the inn run around these people who
want you to kiss the behind.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean again when you are running at a
local city and I mean I just get I'll use
them like again, I'm gonna use a real time receipt.
I don't have to guess about it. Regina Hill was
arrested twenty one times. We didn't sit up here and
wait on nobody to kiss no behind. We went and
found the people that rock with us. So even felons
who couldn't vote at that time in the state of Florida.
You got a baby, mama, don't you. You got a white,
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you got a husband, you got a mama. You gotta something.
We went outside of the network. There's been this myth
to think you got to get them on your side.
Whatever you did to become a criminal, If you became
a criminal the honest criminal way, meaning you were what
nervous about doing nothing you did to become a criminal,
use that same energy and get busy in these streets.
Nothing organized like I like a gang banger, like I know,
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like a dope dealer that I know when you came
to the city. And I'm not saying you, I'm just
using for the dope. Shout out to the dope deals
in the building out of your Oh she glorifyed dope. No,
I'm just giving you the example because now my my
friends now joined the live and I will he knows.
I'm always telling this. If you could figure out how
to take keys and go plant it in Oklahma City
and Kansas and everywhere else and flip it and go
with one person and flip it and get a whole organization.
(03:29):
You mean tell me you can't get your undre people
to come to the polls. Gang banging is organizing. Selling
dope is organizing. Whatever you did was organizing. You got caught,
but you still knew how to organize. So it's the
same skill. It's just understanding how do I apply that
same skill? Stop being scared. Oh I got to go
through them. No you don't. You didn't go through nobody
when you robbed that bank. I'm not suggesting to people
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to rob banks around. But you know what I'm saying,
Will you want nobody wait, no position, no no permission
to do nothing else you did so while wait on this,
you literally have nothing to do and you might fuck
around and win stop depending on what everybody else say.
You got to do. It does not take a lot
of money. It takes you being able to file. And
if you cannot file, then you run by getting on petition.
(04:15):
Meaning I was a candidate once and realized it wasn't
for me. In Orlando, Florida, I got my petition signed
in one night, hard and heavy bike ride and the
strippers got my petition signed in one night. To be
on the ballot, people got to pay to get on
the ballot. When you pay to get on the ballot,
they tell me you can't organize. All you need to
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do is get on the ballot and go knock on
some damn doors. Everybody want to do everything but knock
on doors. It's kind of like with kids. You want
to do everything but clean the kitchen. Clean the kitchen. Oh,
y'all gonna do it right after I get done, or
suth clean the kitchen. It's simple on the local and state.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Level, you see, and that's my point, See how you're
giving everybody actual things to be able to do, to
be able to build on a lot of times these
conversations that have and in social space, it's just basically telling
people to shut up and vote and quid ask some
question because you ain't qualified to do that. And that's
what I said. I think that turns a lot of
people off. For me, been getting involved in the process
because of hn i C mentality and that gatekeeper ship
keeps a lot of people out of it, Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But I'm just going to let you know you can
hop over the gate. The gate is hoppable again in
the jumbo try. When when you tell me it take
five thousand people to get a Compton mayor elected in
eighty thousand, eighty thousand people live in Compton, you mean
tell me, NCA, we can't get five thousand people to
rock with you. Of course we can. Of course we can.
So it's just giving people the game. But you got
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to be willing to take the game and roll with it.
If if Inglewood can be an entire blood organization and
you can have thousands of people under the bloodline, then
you tell me you can't get two hundred of them
to show up at the polls. They run through a
wall for you. They can't do that and get some
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real power. That's what the mafia does. So it's just
giving the game. But you can't be scared about this either.
But it also takes you working and working on the ground.
It ain't by this damn talk. And you right. A
lot of people the gatekeepers tour and they do say that,
but let me speak to the other side to keep
it balanced. A lot of these people y'all listening to
you on these podcasts, they ain't never ran no race.
(06:18):
They just sit up and talk about the gatekeepers all
the time. But how many races, though, have you won?
They ain't never ran no race either. So although they're there,
although they're talking about the gatekeepers, they ain't win and
knocked on nobody's damn door. So they ain't giving game either.
They just talking about the gatekeepers. Anybody can sit up here.
I can sit up here and make y'all mad at
the gatekeepers all day. How many times have you knocked
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down the door? Though? Let's go, let's run through those receipts.
That's what inspires people. I did it the other day
on Live Well you that sound like Pie and Scott.
I'm Betty Crocert. This ain't no Pine of Scott. I'm
giving you real examples, Google verifiables example. It's not bragging,
oh that she go talm a receipts again, right, people
that got receipts can talk about receipts. Only people that
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can't talk about receipts the people that like to talk about
theories and what it sound like. No, if you are
good in the Air Force, meaning keeping the conversation going
on the pod level and love, I got a podcast,
I've got three shows, getting ready to do another one.
But I am an organizer first above all. Else, I'm
an organizer. First, you cannot at work me on the ground.
And if you're not a ground person, then partner with
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a ground person. The Air Force has to partner with
the Marines. Are no wars won. So although the establishment
talk down to people tour and I gotta be honest
and say those of us on the conscious side, they
keep people mad, but ain't directing them to nothing either,
just keeping people mad, not giving them no clear direction.
And it's because they don't know and they're too pride
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for the partner with people that know because they want
to be the only ones that know, and that's not
getting us ahead either. Thank you so much, Jiv always
thank you, Baby, I appreciate it. Happy to know. Year
to you again. Jada's next. Next up, we have.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Trend Hey Tesling, Yeah, yeah, I you know glad you
worked on the Bernie campaign in twenty sixteen. I tried, Well,
you guys were more successful in Michigan than we were,
unfortunately in Ohio in twenty sixteen, because I remember in
Michigan we won and then Ohio was just a big disappointment.
(08:22):
You know, I worked. I worked in kind of the
northeast part of the state, near near Cleveland, my Cauyahoga County.
My question for you is because I hear like one
of you made the point that there are a lot
of people who are gatekeepers, but there are also a
lot of people who are who are just criticized in gatekeepers.
(08:43):
How do we combat nihilism in voting because one of
the things that I've dealt with even.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Break it down and lame of turn. Baby, don't use
big words. We just talked very I mean, I appreciate
the intellect, but break it down. So everybody, I'm standing.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yea, how do we okay, how do we come back
complacency when it comes to voting, Because one of the
things that I've dealt with when I've tried to organize
in my community is I'll hear a lot of people
talk about how they're not good candidates. There are people
who everybody's a sellout, et cetera, et cetera, and then
(09:16):
there's sometimes where progressive candidates are not given the support
that they need to be given. I mean, I think
about I don't live in Cleveland, but I think about
someone like Nina Turner who ran on what a lot
of people on here would say is a good platform,
and in a city, in a district of three hundred
four hundred thousand people, only twenty two thousand people voted
(09:36):
for her. So I guess that's my question because there
is a lot of talk about how we need better representation,
and then some of the people that run are not
supported like they need to be supported. I meant, I
wasn't involved in Marcel Dixon in South Carolina, but for
all the talk about reparations on here, you would think
that someone like that would get more support. So that's
my question.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Great question, Well, I actually wasn't name the tiers direct
to communication. She's a part a friend of mine, and
I'm gonna give you the hardstone cold truth. Nina left
Cleveland and went national, and although she came, she got
very close the first time, and a lot of people
did raise money against her, but again Rashida's lead. They
raised a lot of money against her too, but Rashita's
lee was on the ground. Nina was running in a
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moderate city that voted seventy percent Joe Biden, you people
on Twitter, came win nothing for nobody in Cleveland. Even
though it's a congress a congressional seat, a federal seat,
it's still local. It's still about getting thirty thousand people
to the poles. And although she was very close, she
had not been working on the ground for six years.
So even though she was more dynamic, even though she
had a better platform, even though all of these things,
(10:38):
at the end of the day, she ran against somebody
that was a Democrat chair. She ran against somebody that
was literally sitting in the city council seat who was
not as dynamic as her. But that was the people
that was that was the one that was kissing hands
and shaking babies while she was on the campaign trail.
That shit matters. That's the part of the calculus. And
she's a very close friend of mine and she wouldn't
like She don't like it when I say that. But
that's just the real that's just the real deal. At
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the end of the day. On the oh, they should
be a y'all can't tell Cleveland how to run. They city.
Seventy percent of the people are moderate. You progress just
can't tell them shit about that. They don't even like
you forgress. Nina need to be running in California. As
a matter of fact, I told her that today she'd
be running where they rock. You go. You go run
with people rocking with you. You don't go force no
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man or no woman, begging no woman. You know, damn
well at your lead. How many y'all follow the woman
at the cup? And when y'all go to the cub.
I like to get these hypoanaticsause I know it relates
to people. When you go to the cub, you know,
damn well, that woman at your lead. That sometime every
now and then you might shoot your shop. Maybe you're lucky,
but let's just keep it real, brothers. Put a one
hundred if you agree in the club you're gonna go
with the low hanging fruit. I just want to see
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how many of y'all gonna keep it real? Put a
one hundred. If you trying to take something home to night,
you know damn where you ain't going to the finest
one in the club. You going to the low hanging fruit.
Do I got anybody that's gonna be a witness and
tell the truth. Some of y'all lying torn you line
because that one day when you said on your things,
See now I've got to bring up receipts when you
said something one day because I remember talking to you
about it. You were saying something about not approaching a
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woman because something that don't make me pull up the
receipts because I remember that's right, that's right. You said
if you don't approach, you don't approach women if you
ain't dressed. So why would you just put the thumbs down?
So if you ain't dressed? Right in the club, you
said you don't approach women that you dressed. Because I'm
like torring you a handsome man. You different than the gangs,
because I don't give it, damn they approach you button naked.
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They don't give a shit what what they got on.
So put the thumbs up to him. Because if you
feel like you're not in the best position, you ain't
gona approach nobody. Why because you live in Atlanta. You
no them brothers be dressing sharp, so you only gonna
come with your best game. Correct. Okay, then, so I
don't know why you put it. Oh, y'all, Touring didn't
think I remember when he posted that put a one hundred.
(12:49):
Put it one hundred. If y'all believe that. Torn didn't
believe I was gonna put that receipt, see I stay.
Torn didn't think I remember the receipt. But Torren said,
I've reached out to you. I went out my way
and say what you mean. Yeah, if I'm not on
my shit, I'm not gonna approach her because I want
to make sure. I want to make sure that I'm
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on top of my game so I won't get rejected.
Because guess what. Men don't like being rejected. Now, the
men that I know in LA they don't give a
damn what they looking like. They don't give a damn
if you Beyonce, if you whoever, Hey, what's happening. What's happening, mom?
They don't give a shit. So region's got a lot
to do with it too. But we could table there
and have that conversation the other day. But the point is,
when you're in the club, you either gonna go towards
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the low hanging fruit if you know you ain't on
your shit and you trying to take something on the night,
or if you trying to get the battest in the club,
you gonna make sure you on your top tier, depending
up on your region. So what I'm saying to that
is stop talking to people that don't want to fuck
with you. You spend too much time talking to people
don't want to fuck with you. Using the example it's
eighty thousand people, using the Compton, California example, Why are
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you talking to the same five thousand people over and over?
One thing that the establishment does when they go in
the voter action network, they go to the supervowters, they
only talk to their voters that they know we're going
to vote for them. That's why when y'all think y'all
saying something by saying y'all gonna stay home, let me
give you news, let me give you some breaking news
to those who actually worked on a campaign. You are
helping them out with that we're just gonna stay home.
(14:12):
Guess what, it's always more people that stay home than
it is that show up. You are not helping at all,
not at all. In fact, it makes it easier for
me to get fifty one percent because if you stay home,
now only got to find five hundred people. I don't
have to find a thousand. The trick to it is
torn and those of y'all and who are listening that
think y'all be saying sometime, but y'all staying at home.
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The trick to it is running a candidate to split
the vote. Get anybody to do it, Grandma, uncle, whoever
put them on the ballot. If you want to stick
it to somebody, that's what you do. You make them
work harder. Using the example I gave you, twenty three
hundred people showed up. They put it back in the
jumbo trying so they can see it. Look at the
City of Compton primary nominating election, twenty three hundred people
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showed up for Christine. Then after that is one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nine nine other people ran. The person at the bottom
Elijah had forty three people show up. That forty three
people showed up that hurt Christian at the top, forty
three people staying at home though hurt christin I mean
staying at home, But forty three people forty three people
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that voted for her voted for Elijah that actually hurt Christian.
So y'all not saying nothing when y'all say I'm just
gonna stay at home. Those are people that have never
had to work a win number. I'm telling you how
it works. Randomly. Just put anybody on the damn ballot.
Write in somebody. I'm not telling you to vote for
somebody you don't support. What I'm telling you is if
you want to stick it to them, you make it
harder for them to climb that Hell, that's how you
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That's how you push the line, not by sitting at home.
That just makes the win number easier to get to.
So you do not come back complacency. Stop talking to
people that ain't rocking with you. You go find your district.
Had Nina Turner ran in California like I told her
to do, like she publicly acknowledged that FIGUREO told her
to do, because then she called me figure out she
would have won. Why would you spend time talking to
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people that you know ain't rocking with you. They don't
like Bernie Sanders. I don't like Bernie Sanders. Modern Black
people are moderate. They are not progressive. For the most part,
they should be, but the progressive movement do not know
how to talk to Black people. They still do that
low information voter is ram majority by white people, and
I can't stand them. So although I work for Bernie Sanders,
it's a lot of anti black. I was the only
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and the first staffer that called out Bernie Sanders and
his racism. After I did that, ten people follow me.
That's why Bernie Sanders got his ass dusted. That's the
truth of the matter.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And Tesla, the last thing I just wanted to say
too is that is that is also something that I
just think is a misconception because I hear, yeah, I
was gonna say, it's a misconception when people on here
act like the grassroots voters are progressive and it's elites
that are moderate, like a lot of black a lot
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of grassroots for voters in places like Cleveland, because Cleveland's
not Cleveland, Black voters aren't aren't necessarily wealthy. A lot
of them are very moderate, not only socially like people
like to talk about, but economically like a lot of
voters fundamentally. When I've canvassed and I've said, oh, what
about Medicare for all? What about minimum wage increase? A
lot of them are like, yeah, I just want my
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healthcare to be improved. I'm not with that Medicare for
all stuffs. So I think that's something that's important for
people on here to know it's not just bougie negroes
who were talking about, you know, being economically moderate.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
A lot of oh for sure, for sure the average
working class. And again, this is what and I appreciate
having you on this call because I love how going
people to actually work on the ground. Black people are
moderate and largely a lot lean conservative in a lot
of ways. Black people have to work hard as hell
to get their money. Ain't no, they ain't trying to
sit up and give it all the way to the government.
That is an absolute misconception. And it doesn't mean that
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they're conservative, and it doesn't mean that they don't care.
It's just the issues that matter to them. Yes, we do,
we have an overwall least of these. But I want
to be clear, the progressive movement is ran by white folks. Now,
if you want more Black people involved, then they didn't.
Black people need to go over there and take over
that shit because right now they cater to white folks.
They're no different. When I hear them talking about boomers
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and you know, we don't like you black, you black
elites and all these white people to get all these
nuts to talk crazy to black people, I tell them
my time, you stay at black folks business, You stay
o black vaux bit. Black conservatives will deal with black
conservative progressives. Black progressives will deal with black establishment democrats.
White folks, burn you burners. You keep your ass out
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of Black people's business. That's what turned a lot of
people off. Sometimes it's not always the platform is the candidate.
And I'm telling you firsthand, working on that campaign at
the national level, ten of us that went on that campaign,
I walked in the door the same day a sense
of eternity that I know how they did her. I
know what they did on the ground. I was on
them conference calls. I saw it. That's why I wish
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somebody would challenge me on it, because I know what
I saw and they know different than what the Democrat establishment,
boomers or whatever you want to call it. They don't
know how to talk to black people. They don't know
how to deal black people. They think the answer is
always low information voted now. Sometimes black people just don't
like you. Sometime they just don't like you. Period. You
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don't know how to talk to black people. You tell
black people what they should and should not be doing.
If I heard that one more time about him walking
with emilk black they don't give a shit about who
you walk with no emilk. You ain't met no black
people in twenty years. And the black people that you
did meet, I introduced some to him, so I can
talk that shit. I'm over exaggerating. Obviously he met more
you know, black people that I was. I'm just saying,
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until they value relationships that real black people have on
the ground and the progressive movement, black people will never
go over there. They've turned a lot of Black people
off and black it is not just this boogie. You
are absolutely right. Middle class Black people are largely moderate.
They ain't with that socialism shit, y'all own, not at all,
because the reality of it is it's still a lift
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all boats tied whatever shit be over there talking about
it, and we ain't with that because we know that do
not serve us well. But I do think more black
people should be in the progressive move and I really
really do. It just ain't gonna be me. I'm not
a progressive, but I did work on a progressive campaign.
Two things can be true at the same time. Who's
up mixed or did you have any follow up with
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that trend before I go? Because I do, like, yeah,
that's all I wanted.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This is because that's why I mean, you know I
I mean, particularly with with you know, everybody on here,
you know, toring you like, That's that's all I want
to put pushback on because I want to be clear.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I'm not I mean, I'm lucky that I'm I'm doing
what I'm doing. Okay, I'm surviving in this colony. But
most of my family, even in terms of president aial election,
a lot of them are very working class or like I.
In some cases it's I got some of my student
loans forgiven. That's enough for me. I'm voting for the Democrats.
So I just wanted to I just wanted to add
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that because that's the biggest That's one of the biggest
misconceptions I hear is that black people who even next
year hurt this year, who are going to vote for Biden,
are all going to be people are making four hundred
thousand dollars Like Keep in mind, Detroit votes ninety five
percent for Democrats, and a lot of those people are
people who are very poor and very you know, my city,
downtown is a very poor city, and it's a very
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moderate democratic city.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So that's all I wanted to say. I'm glad you
brought up student loans because you know, in the conscious space,
if you will, you know, there's a lot of you know,
forget them student loans, student loans, blah dah da da dah. Well, again,
everybody should be looking at I have three degrees. I'm
going to give my fourth. I got student loans. That's
not why I vote, because again I I because of
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what I do in my work, in my life. I
typically vote a lot of collective issues, but the most
meaning the collective I'm considering collective. But for most part,
you're supposed to do what worked for you. And if
you have a four or five hundred dollars student loan,
that matters y'all got to stop shaming people for that too.
You know, y'all got that bad. Just because you're asking
go to college, don't mean like somebody else ain't supposed
to be concerned that that five hundred is not taking
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care of their kids, or that five hundred is not
going towards their rent. That's hurting them. That can be
a real issue for them. Y'all get that a lot
from these podcasts they be telling y'all ain't about student loan.
These are people that never went to college, so it's
very easy. But somebody who ain't never went to college,
don't have a student loan to be telling somebody else
what they need to be concerned about. You could say
college is a sham. You can say whatever you want
to say. But I'm here to tell you, black folks,
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I needed all the credentials because no gate was open
for me. There was no gate. No mama, no daddy
put me on. Everything I had to do. I had
to hustle, so I needed at all. I needed the degrees,
I needed the certifications, I needed the relationships. I needed
at all. So I don't shit on anybody, the trades,
all of that, whatever it is to get you to
move your family forward that works for you, the nerve
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with somebody else that decided to take a different route,
and to tell them what should matter to them. That's
what matters to them. And but let me be fair
on the other side, those of you that got college degrees, shaming,
shaming people that don't and telling it making them feel
like because they don't have a college degree, they're not
equal to you. Talented ten y'all need to have a
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ceat two. You're wrong because blue collar is critically important
and it takes the degrees, but also blue collar jobs.
So again, we have to look at what works for you.
If somebody's paying one thousand dollars a student dad, yeah
that's gonna matter to them, just like if you're paying
one thousand dollars in child support, it mattered to you
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if that's something you like, Hey, don't. I don't think
Florida should happen where if I don't pay child support
and I don't have a driver's license, they take your
driver's license. But I'm going to Florida. I never mest
so many people didn't have drivers license in my life
because they didn't pay child support and they got two
behind and they still was paying the best that they could.
They lost a job, they got on their ass. They
wasn't just dead be dad's situations put them in that way.
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Let me deal with this because it's another I'm just
giving y'all a bunch of game today. Another talking point.
Y'all talk about how, oh yeah they got they got
motivated in the sixties to be single. I really don't
want to go there, but I do got to say
this while we're there. Oh they was, they was incentivized
to be single. Mamas. Yeah that's true, But ain't nobody
incentivize you to walk away either? Who incentivized you? I
don't know no man in my family that walked away
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from his children. Can't You can't make my ex husband
walk away from his child? What incentible? Can't You can't
incentivize him enough. You couldn't centivize my daddy enough to
walk away from me. So even if she got incentivized
to get on Section eight, that ain't incentivizing your ass
or not take care of your kids and be a
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part of their life. So let's stop that blame game.
Y'all love that talking point. It is true, but ain'tbody
telling you not to take care of your family.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
That.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Let's just keep it a buck. Men take do men
do men things, even if you got a trash baby mama,
I remember shout out to trade the truth. Those of
you follow him on instant. He put his whole story
out when he was fighting to see his baby girl.
He put it all out publicly because he wanted people
to know I'm putting it all on the line to
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see mine. You couldn't incentivize him to not stay away
from his baby girl. So now, men that want to
be in your children's life, you will be in your
child's life. Come hell loud water. If you gotta go
to court, if you gotta do whatever, you gotta lay
your body down, whatever, whether you got money or don't
have money, you gonna show up. You're gonna be something.
So let's stop. Yeah, let's stop these talking points about
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talking about what happened in the sixties. Were talking about
right now twenty twenty four. Get your ass involved in
your child's life. And it's not always gonna be a
two parent household. It is what it is. Sometime relationships
don't work out. That has nothing to do with your
relationship with your child. We'll be talking. We'll be talking
about that on tens on ten. By the way, I
just wanted to put that out there because when I
come to Twitter, you know, I gotta I try to
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give my two cents on a lot of the same
talking points that y'all put out over and over and
over and over and over. Yeah, the white man has
centivized y'all in the sixties. This twenty twenty four. Brother,
what are we up here talking about? You're gonna pay
the child's reporter, you ain't, You're gonna take care of
your child or you ain't. It's just that damn simple.
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And yes, women, let me be fair because I know
y'all like make sure I'm fair. Yes, women, you better
to stop going to get your at. You should be
supporting health care than anybody because you absolutely supporting planning.
Parent is not about just abortion. It's also about getting
you birth control of IUD get you some pills. I
was married thirteen years. I didn't have my first child
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and my only child with my ex husband. This is
his only child. We waited seven years. I'm not just
gonna sit up here and have nobody and my husband
better than my ex husband, better than a whole lot
of y'all husbands y'all live with. I'll tell them why
it didn't work out, because it just did. It ain't
none of your damn business. But he in my life
every step of the way, and better than most of y'all.
And I mean that can fix anything, stop everything. I
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live in the city right around the corner from them.
We coparing to the highest level. That's why I'm able
to do all of this that I do. Shout out
to the black men in the building. Make care of
their kids. And he's a mechanic, and I helped him
start from the bottom from being floating all the way
to being a district manager. And this is his only child.
By the way, he didn't go out and have no
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fifteen other kids and no fifteen other women. He said,
It'll only be by one woman, my forever wife. And
I'm still on healthcare and still on the insurance. Yeah,
that's how you get it done, ladies. We have that
another other conversation, And y'all know it's true because Marcella's
has been a witness when he's popped up over here
and said it on the live. Because I love receipts.
This is my forever wife. So let's just be clear.
(27:35):
I can't get rid of them. Some of y'all looking
for a man. I'm trying to figure out how to
get rid of them. So let's not the run of
receipts on that. What's the next question. We don't currently
have anyone else in the key. Nobody else has anything
to say, no feedback. I appreciate you guys tapping in
put a one hundred if you love these random conversations
(27:57):
where we're tapping in, you know, across the board. I
love when you guys chime in and makes the show fuller.
It is really important that I engage with you guys,
It really really is. Jay you said, I need to
tell him block somebody. That person is still here, because
I would love him to come forward and explain why
he blocked me. Sure, actually you blocked him because I
believe he was trolling.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
He wanted to repent for his trollish ways. So I
will get on that right now. I'll come.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I'll be interested to know. I'll be interested to
know why is trollish ways? Why are you come before
the congregation and less repent? Because it's always love in
my heart and the receipt show it like I love
my people. You can't run me off nowhere when every
talking about we don't ran you ain't ran me off? No,
damn well ran me off? What we run me?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
How?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You run me off anywhere? You ran me straight to where?
And for what?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Justin I will say this, I know this your hold
spaces A lot of people be on their best behavior
because I see some folks that don't act like this.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Another spaces, but.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Your house. I'm gonna sitting there with my drinking post up.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well, I mean, hey at the n day. See. The
thing is, you gotta be able to back it up
with receipts. I don't get on here and just be
talking and theorizing it. Well, what we need to do,
brother and sister and brother brother, you got to come
with the receipts with me, and they ain't got to
like me, but I'm gonna run the receipt This is
Google verifiable shit. This ain't theories, This ain't talking. This
ain't oh yeah, you doing it for you doing it
(29:22):
for cloud? You doing? Are you crazy? I have a
contract with iHeart Radio sers and ma'am, I don't get
paid off. No damn clicks on no YouTube, but y'all crazy,
not at all. I really rock with y'all because I
just rock with y'all. It's hard to fight the receipts Storr,
and it really is. It's not about bragging, it's just
keeping it real. Telling when people come at me and
they think they know me and think, don't worry, just
(29:44):
follow me a little while longer, and it's gonna all
make sense. Them receipts gonna all make sense. I've been
talking about the same thing for the last fifteen years
while everybody else talking about everything else. Every other day
they talking about everything else. I'm gonna be talking about
the same shit, whether it's twenty people listening. It's consistency
at the end of the day. And when I throw
back then receipt, you can't. You can't. The facts are
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the facts.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
And you know it test real quick. The sad part
is it's even when you bring receipts and you're just
trying to give information, right, but for some sad reason,
people will feel like you're trying to one up them
and want to argue with you. And I'm like, family,
I'm not. Nobody's trying to one up you. I'm just
sharing information. It's like you said, it's all google ble.
(30:30):
That's just a sad part. I wish we could just
share information like you're doing here tz and and people
not trying to just one up you all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well I'm welcome. I welcome the one up. So for
me personally, I welcome the one up because it's gonna
take about two up with me. I welcome. I welcome
the one up. If you're gonna tell me about a campaign,
I'm gonna ask you when the last campaign you worked, Well,
you know I ain't worked on camp. Okay, then what
are we moving on to the next caller? So I
like the one up. I welcome the one up. I
like one on one. Let's go one on one. Let's
go one on one. When it comes to me and
(30:58):
you're challenging me, I don't like talking to talk. If
we're gonna talk about it, we did to talk about
like that brother that got up tread. I believe when
he got up and said he worked on the campaign,
and then when he mentioned Cleveland, it wasn't nothing for
him to He couldn't combat what I said because I
was her director of com so surely he know what
I said. Was the truth. I could have went along
(31:18):
with and said, oh man, they did send it to
turn and so wrong. That's a friend of mine. I
had her on the Breakfast Club this morning. I went
out of my way to make sure she was quoted
on the Breakfast Club this morning. She didn't ask me
to do that. I did that. Don't nobody rock with
her harder than me. But I'm still gonna tell you
the truth. And the truth of the matter is she
hadn't been on the ground in six six years. That
made a difference. And when Tred said, well, they wasn't
(31:40):
supporting her on this app. Can't nobody on this app makeup?
When they raised a lot of money, they came down
they don't vote in Cleveland. Them people that's supporting on
this app do not voting Cleveland. That made a difference.
Rashida to Lee walked the dog on. They ass they
raised just as much money, if not more, But that
woman works on the ground. Do y'all realize that Detroit
doesn't have Detroit as the black city outside of Jackson?
(32:02):
I believe, Do y'all realize there's no black representation from
Michigan none. They outworked in black folks I know because
my girlfriend worked up the person that was running against
Rashida Telee. Rashida Lee walked the dog on them when
it comes to knocking on that door. So you can't
just say, oh, it's just money. How did they do it?
(32:22):
That same organization, the same organization went after Rashida Saliba.
I've never met Sharida's sleeper of Rashida's leber damn my life,
but I know she ran circles around them, seven black
people she was running against, and they come down to
knocking on them doors. That's why Biden better be very
afraid of Michigan, because when it comes to the American
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in the Muslim population, they ain't playing no games with you.
It ain't just Twitter with them. They about that door bused.
You can believe that. I know because I worked in
that state. That's why she was Rashida Telei and the
other person I forgot his name American and the Muslims
run run that not black people. The establishment, all of
them touring, they all rent, and she walked the dog
(33:08):
on all seven of them because you cannot out work her.
The lady that she was running against, aka Establishment, The
same organization that tried to take down Rashida, to try
to take down Nina Turner put the same money behind her,
(33:28):
and she got her ass dusted because she didn't show
up to nothing. She wasn't working, the people didn't believe
in the Rashitas lead did better in the hood than
she did. And she was a former elected officials, the
former city clerk. No, she thought she could just walk
her ass up in there and take that seat where
shea's leave ad news for her. And she's the loudest
in Congress, constantly getting in trouble. When you got your
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city on lock, can't nobody keep you from that seat.
She works the ground. Her work ethic beat all of
them black people. That's really what it is. At the
end of the day. I know a lot of these
people that need to get some subscribes and clicks and
likes and all of that, who ain't never worked on
no race. I'm telling you what it is, baby, on
that damn crown. You got to work on this ground.
It's the hardest thing ever. It's hard to get candidates
(34:11):
and get them doors slammed in their face. Thought, that's
the only representative. Cool, that's the elected one. Okay, Yeah,
you might be right. I'm not sure, but I know
it's too. I know she's I'm familiar with Rashida Sale's race,
uh because my girlfriend Jay you know, Michelle, she worked
on the campaign against her. So I had a very
(34:33):
inside view of watching why the how the dog got
walked on them even with all the money a pack,
the organization, the Jewish organization, that's the largest pack in
the in the country, the most powerful pack. They put
the same money behind Rashida's lead. Go google it, and
she beat them. She beat him. She knows her. She
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ain't out there talking to people that don't rock with her.
She talking to the people that rock with her. That's
the key. And they got that shit on lock in
Michigan and that's why, and that's why you don't have
any black representation in Michigan. So yes, people supported in
a Turner financially, but they did not live in the
city of Cleveland enough. And she did very well and honestly,
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in my opinion, better than what I thought, because that
district votes seventy percent Joe Biden period. Now go runner
in California, y'all encourage it. I told her, go to California,
you win right out the gate. You want to be
in Congress so bad. I think she's better, more effective
outside of Congress. But that's just my personal opinion. Let
(35:34):
me unblock whoever, let me unblock. I got it now, Jay, okay,
And then nextcept we have Immortal Melanie followed by run out,
and I've unblocked the person to come before the congregation
and on their trollish ways. Because by the way, I
don't even know these people that was trolling and making
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disc records and all this old bullshit. I'll give shit
about which I'll talk about. I don't rant one three
awards since then, the United States Department of Congress u
CLA black lawsuitents chased minority entrepreneur a year. I don't
give the shit about them disc records. You can run
them back back, send it to me. I'll put a
high sixteen on it. Be more strategic. Can say, hey, Tess,
can you get on the with us. I'll get on
the witch you and we can do it back and forth.
(36:16):
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At work?
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What's having everybody? This is Tesla and figure out with
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I'm gonna shut up. I want to take some of
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(01:08):
and this recording will be on the podcast. I'm gonna
get right to it looks like we have we have
of terrain.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What's up, Jay?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And if you don't get my name right, I know something.
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, you came on to stop letting that body. If
pep mess on the time, sometimes just get it wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
All right, it's all good. First of all, it's good
to see you in twenty when they're falling, I'm glad,
can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes? I can happy to know your love. And I'm
justceiving about your name. But I don't mind. They can
mess up my name all day long, so I don't
bother me. But it's touring everybody, Hello Tom, no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm gonna try to be quick because I'm on the road.
A lot of the conversation when it talks about black
people and voting and what we need to vote for,
is led by people who are very condescending towards black people.
You talked about people who have back, and you see
people who might be doing a little bit better or
might be affluent black who are real condescending to people
who want to get involved in politics. But they may
not have the background and they may not have the connections.
(02:10):
So how can people who are coming from backgrounds. Maybe
they have a criminal record, and may they do some
things that may not be perfect, or they may not
be connected to the winding Champagne people. How can they
get motivated to motivate the people that they want to
motivate without doing the inn run around these people who
want you to kiss the behind.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean again when you are running at a
local city and I mean I just get I'll use
them like again, I'm gonna use a real time receipt.
I don't have to guess about it. Regina Hill was
arrested twenty one times. We didn't sit up here and
wait on nobody to kiss no behind. We went and
found the people that rock with us. So even felons
who couldn't vote at that time in the state of Florida.
You got a baby, mama, don't you. You got a white,
(02:46):
you got a husband, you got a mama. You gotta something.
We went outside of the network. There's been this myth
to think you got to get them on your side.
Whatever you did to become a criminal, If you became
a criminal the honest criminal way, meaning you were what
nervous about doing nothing you did to become a criminal,
use that same energy and get busy in these streets.
Nothing organized like I like a gang banger, like I know,
(03:08):
like a dope dealer that I know when you came
to the city. And I'm not saying you, I'm just
using for the dope. Shout out to the dope deals
in the building out of your Oh she glorifyed dope. No,
I'm just giving you the example because now my my
friends now joined the live and I will he knows.
I'm always telling this. If you could figure out how
to take keys and go plant it in Oklahma City
and Kansas and everywhere else and flip it and go
with one person and flip it and get a whole organization.
(03:29):
You mean tell me you can't get your undre people
to come to the polls. Gang banging is organizing. Selling
dope is organizing. Whatever you did was organizing. You got caught,
but you still knew how to organize. So it's the
same skill. It's just understanding how do I apply that
same skill? Stop being scared. Oh I got to go
through them. No you don't. You didn't go through nobody
when you robbed that bank. I'm not suggesting to people
(03:50):
to rob banks around. But you know what I'm saying,
Will you want nobody wait, no position, no no permission
to do nothing else you did so while wait on this,
you literally have nothing to do and you might fuck
around and win stop depending on what everybody else say.
You got to do. It does not take a lot
of money. It takes you being able to file. And
if you cannot file, then you run by getting on petition.
(04:15):
Meaning I was a candidate once and realized it wasn't
for me. In Orlando, Florida, I got my petition signed
in one night, hard and heavy bike ride and the
strippers got my petition signed in one night. To be
on the ballot, people got to pay to get on
the ballot. When you pay to get on the ballot,
they tell me you can't organize. All you need to
(04:36):
do is get on the ballot and go knock on
some damn doors. Everybody want to do everything but knock
on doors. It's kind of like with kids. You want
to do everything but clean the kitchen. Clean the kitchen. Oh,
y'all gonna do it right after I get done, or
suth clean the kitchen. It's simple on the local and state.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Level, you see, and that's my point, See how you're
giving everybody actual things to be able to do, to
be able to build on a lot of times these
conversations that have and in social space, it's just basically telling
people to shut up and vote and quid ask some
question because you ain't qualified to do that. And that's
what I said. I think that turns a lot of
people off. For me, been getting involved in the process
because of hn i C mentality and that gatekeeper ship
keeps a lot of people out of it, Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But I'm just going to let you know you can
hop over the gate. The gate is hoppable again in
the jumbo try. When when you tell me it take
five thousand people to get a Compton mayor elected in
eighty thousand, eighty thousand people live in Compton, you mean
tell me, NCA, we can't get five thousand people to
rock with you. Of course we can. Of course we can.
So it's just giving people the game. But you got
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to be willing to take the game and roll with it.
If if Inglewood can be an entire blood organization and
you can have thousands of people under the bloodline, then
you tell me you can't get two hundred of them
to show up at the polls. They run through a
wall for you. They can't do that and get some
(05:57):
real power. That's what the mafia does. So it's just
giving the game. But you can't be scared about this either.
But it also takes you working and working on the ground.
It ain't by this damn talk. And you right. A
lot of people the gatekeepers tour and they do say that,
but let me speak to the other side to keep
it balanced. A lot of these people y'all listening to
you on these podcasts, they ain't never ran no race.
(06:18):
They just sit up and talk about the gatekeepers all
the time. But how many races, though, have you won?
They ain't never ran no race either. So although they're there,
although they're talking about the gatekeepers, they ain't win and
knocked on nobody's damn door. So they ain't giving game either.
They just talking about the gatekeepers. Anybody can sit up here.
I can sit up here and make y'all mad at
the gatekeepers all day. How many times have you knocked
(06:39):
down the door? Though? Let's go, let's run through those receipts.
That's what inspires people. I did it the other day
on Live Well you that sound like Pie and Scott.
I'm Betty Crocert. This ain't no Pine of Scott. I'm
giving you real examples, Google verifiables example. It's not bragging,
oh that she go talm a receipts again, right, people
that got receipts can talk about receipts. Only people that
(07:01):
can't talk about receipts the people that like to talk about
theories and what it sound like. No, if you are
good in the Air Force, meaning keeping the conversation going
on the pod level and love, I got a podcast,
I've got three shows, getting ready to do another one.
But I am an organizer first above all. Else, I'm
an organizer. First, you cannot at work me on the ground.
And if you're not a ground person, then partner with
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a ground person. The Air Force has to partner with
the Marines. Are no wars won. So although the establishment
talk down to people tour and I gotta be honest
and say those of us on the conscious side, they
keep people mad, but ain't directing them to nothing either,
just keeping people mad, not giving them no clear direction.
And it's because they don't know and they're too pride
(07:43):
for the partner with people that know because they want
to be the only ones that know, and that's not
getting us ahead either. Thank you so much, Jiv always
thank you, Baby, I appreciate it. Happy to know. Year
to you again. Jada's next. Next up, we have.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Trend Hey Tesling, Yeah, yeah, I you know glad you
worked on the Bernie campaign in twenty sixteen. I tried, Well,
you guys were more successful in Michigan than we were,
unfortunately in Ohio in twenty sixteen, because I remember in
Michigan we won and then Ohio was just a big disappointment.
(08:22):
You know, I worked. I worked in kind of the
northeast part of the state, near near Cleveland, my Cauyahoga County.
My question for you is because I hear like one
of you made the point that there are a lot
of people who are gatekeepers, but there are also a
lot of people who are who are just criticized in gatekeepers.
(08:43):
How do we combat nihilism in voting because one of
the things that I've dealt with even.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Break it down and lame of turn. Baby, don't use
big words. We just talked very I mean, I appreciate
the intellect, but break it down. So everybody, I'm standing.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yea, how do we okay, how do we come back
complacency when it comes to voting, Because one of the
things that I've dealt with when I've tried to organize
in my community is I'll hear a lot of people
talk about how they're not good candidates. There are people
who everybody's a sellout, et cetera, et cetera, and then
(09:16):
there's sometimes where progressive candidates are not given the support
that they need to be given. I mean, I think
about I don't live in Cleveland, but I think about
someone like Nina Turner who ran on what a lot
of people on here would say is a good platform,
and in a city, in a district of three hundred
four hundred thousand people, only twenty two thousand people voted
(09:36):
for her. So I guess that's my question because there
is a lot of talk about how we need better representation,
and then some of the people that run are not
supported like they need to be supported. I meant, I
wasn't involved in Marcel Dixon in South Carolina, but for
all the talk about reparations on here, you would think
that someone like that would get more support. So that's
my question.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Great question, Well, I actually wasn't name the tiers direct
to communication. She's a part a friend of mine, and
I'm gonna give you the hardstone cold truth. Nina left
Cleveland and went national, and although she came, she got
very close the first time, and a lot of people
did raise money against her, but again Rashida's lead. They
raised a lot of money against her too, but Rashita's
lee was on the ground. Nina was running in a
(10:17):
moderate city that voted seventy percent Joe Biden, you people
on Twitter, came win nothing for nobody in Cleveland. Even
though it's a congress a congressional seat, a federal seat,
it's still local. It's still about getting thirty thousand people
to the poles. And although she was very close, she
had not been working on the ground for six years.
So even though she was more dynamic, even though she
had a better platform, even though all of these things,
(10:38):
at the end of the day, she ran against somebody
that was a Democrat chair. She ran against somebody that
was literally sitting in the city council seat who was
not as dynamic as her. But that was the people
that was that was the one that was kissing hands
and shaking babies while she was on the campaign trail.
That shit matters. That's the part of the calculus. And
she's a very close friend of mine and she wouldn't
like She don't like it when I say that. But
that's just the real that's just the real deal. At
(11:00):
the end of the day. On the oh, they should
be a y'all can't tell Cleveland how to run. They city.
Seventy percent of the people are moderate. You progress just
can't tell them shit about that. They don't even like
you forgress. Nina need to be running in California. As
a matter of fact, I told her that today she'd
be running where they rock. You go. You go run
with people rocking with you. You don't go force no
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man or no woman, begging no woman. You know, damn
well at your lead. How many y'all follow the woman
at the cup? And when y'all go to the cub.
I like to get these hypoanaticsause I know it relates
to people. When you go to the cub, you know,
damn well, that woman at your lead. That sometime every
now and then you might shoot your shop. Maybe you're lucky,
but let's just keep it real, brothers. Put a one
hundred if you agree in the club you're gonna go
with the low hanging fruit. I just want to see
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how many of y'all gonna keep it real? Put a
one hundred. If you trying to take something home to night,
you know damn where you ain't going to the finest
one in the club. You going to the low hanging fruit.
Do I got anybody that's gonna be a witness and
tell the truth. Some of y'all lying torn you line
because that one day when you said on your things,
See now I've got to bring up receipts when you
said something one day because I remember talking to you
about it. You were saying something about not approaching a
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woman because something that don't make me pull up the
receipts because I remember that's right, that's right. You said
if you don't approach, you don't approach women if you
ain't dressed. So why would you just put the thumbs down?
So if you ain't dressed? Right in the club, you
said you don't approach women that you dressed. Because I'm
like torring you a handsome man. You different than the gangs,
because I don't give it, damn they approach you button naked.
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They don't give a shit what what they got on.
So put the thumbs up to him. Because if you
feel like you're not in the best position, you ain't
gona approach nobody. Why because you live in Atlanta. You
no them brothers be dressing sharp, so you only gonna
come with your best game. Correct. Okay, then, so I
don't know why you put it. Oh, y'all, Touring didn't
think I remember when he posted that put a one hundred.
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Put it one hundred. If y'all believe that. Torn didn't
believe I was gonna put that receipt, see I stay.
Torn didn't think I remember the receipt. But Torren said,
I've reached out to you. I went out my way
and say what you mean. Yeah, if I'm not on
my shit, I'm not gonna approach her because I want
to make sure. I want to make sure that I'm
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on top of my game so I won't get rejected.
Because guess what. Men don't like being rejected. Now, the
men that I know in LA they don't give a
damn what they looking like. They don't give a damn
if you Beyonce, if you whoever, Hey, what's happening. What's happening, mom?
They don't give a shit. So region's got a lot
to do with it too. But we could table there
and have that conversation the other day. But the point is,
when you're in the club, you either gonna go towards
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the low hanging fruit if you know you ain't on
your shit and you trying to take something on the night,
or if you trying to get the battest in the club,
you gonna make sure you on your top tier, depending
up on your region. So what I'm saying to that
is stop talking to people that don't want to fuck
with you. You spend too much time talking to people
don't want to fuck with you. Using the example it's
eighty thousand people, using the Compton, California example, Why are
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you talking to the same five thousand people over and over?
One thing that the establishment does when they go in
the voter action network, they go to the supervowters, they
only talk to their voters that they know we're going
to vote for them. That's why when y'all think y'all
saying something by saying y'all gonna stay home, let me
give you news, let me give you some breaking news
to those who actually worked on a campaign. You are
helping them out with that we're just gonna stay home.
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Guess what, it's always more people that stay home than
it is that show up. You are not helping at all,
not at all. In fact, it makes it easier for
me to get fifty one percent because if you stay home,
now only got to find five hundred people. I don't
have to find a thousand. The trick to it is
torn and those of y'all and who are listening that
think y'all be saying sometime, but y'all staying at home.
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The trick to it is running a candidate to split
the vote. Get anybody to do it, Grandma, uncle, whoever
put them on the ballot. If you want to stick
it to somebody, that's what you do. You make them
work harder. Using the example I gave you, twenty three
hundred people showed up. They put it back in the
jumbo trying so they can see it. Look at the
City of Compton primary nominating election, twenty three hundred people
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showed up for Christine. Then after that is one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nine nine other people ran. The person at the bottom
Elijah had forty three people show up. That forty three
people showed up that hurt Christian at the top, forty
three people staying at home though hurt christin I mean
staying at home, But forty three people forty three people
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that voted for her voted for Elijah that actually hurt Christian.
So y'all not saying nothing when y'all say I'm just
gonna stay at home. Those are people that have never
had to work a win number. I'm telling you how
it works. Randomly. Just put anybody on the damn ballot.
Write in somebody. I'm not telling you to vote for
somebody you don't support. What I'm telling you is if
you want to stick it to them, you make it
harder for them to climb that Hell, that's how you
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That's how you push the line, not by sitting at home.
That just makes the win number easier to get to.
So you do not come back complacency. Stop talking to
people that ain't rocking with you. You go find your district.
Had Nina Turner ran in California like I told her
to do, like she publicly acknowledged that FIGUREO told her
to do, because then she called me figure out she
would have won. Why would you spend time talking to
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people that you know ain't rocking with you. They don't
like Bernie Sanders. I don't like Bernie Sanders. Modern Black
people are moderate. They are not progressive. For the most part,
they should be, but the progressive movement do not know
how to talk to Black people. They still do that
low information voter is ram majority by white people, and
I can't stand them. So although I work for Bernie Sanders,
it's a lot of anti black. I was the only
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and the first staffer that called out Bernie Sanders and
his racism. After I did that, ten people follow me.
That's why Bernie Sanders got his ass dusted. That's the
truth of the matter.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And Tesla, the last thing I just wanted to say
too is that is that is also something that I
just think is a misconception because I hear, yeah, I
was gonna say, it's a misconception when people on here
act like the grassroots voters are progressive and it's elites
that are moderate, like a lot of black a lot
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of grassroots for voters in places like Cleveland, because Cleveland's
not Cleveland, Black voters aren't aren't necessarily wealthy. A lot
of them are very moderate, not only socially like people
like to talk about, but economically like a lot of
voters fundamentally. When I've canvassed and I've said, oh, what
about Medicare for all? What about minimum wage increase? A
lot of them are like, yeah, I just want my
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healthcare to be improved. I'm not with that Medicare for
all stuffs. So I think that's something that's important for
people on here to know it's not just bougie negroes
who were talking about, you know, being economically moderate.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
A lot of oh for sure, for sure the average
working class. And again, this is what and I appreciate
having you on this call because I love how going
people to actually work on the ground. Black people are
moderate and largely a lot lean conservative in a lot
of ways. Black people have to work hard as hell
to get their money. Ain't no, they ain't trying to
sit up and give it all the way to the government.
That is an absolute misconception. And it doesn't mean that
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they're conservative, and it doesn't mean that they don't care.
It's just the issues that matter to them. Yes, we do,
we have an overwall least of these. But I want
to be clear, the progressive movement is ran by white folks. Now,
if you want more Black people involved, then they didn't.
Black people need to go over there and take over
that shit because right now they cater to white folks.
They're no different. When I hear them talking about boomers
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and you know, we don't like you black, you black
elites and all these white people to get all these
nuts to talk crazy to black people, I tell them
my time, you stay at black folks business, You stay
o black vaux bit. Black conservatives will deal with black
conservative progressives. Black progressives will deal with black establishment democrats.
White folks, burn you burners. You keep your ass out
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of Black people's business. That's what turned a lot of
people off. Sometimes it's not always the platform is the candidate.
And I'm telling you firsthand, working on that campaign at
the national level, ten of us that went on that campaign,
I walked in the door the same day a sense
of eternity that I know how they did her. I
know what they did on the ground. I was on
them conference calls. I saw it. That's why I wish
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somebody would challenge me on it, because I know what
I saw and they know different than what the Democrat establishment,
boomers or whatever you want to call it. They don't
know how to talk to black people. They don't know
how to deal black people. They think the answer is
always low information voted now. Sometimes black people just don't
like you. Sometime they just don't like you. Period. You
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don't know how to talk to black people. You tell
black people what they should and should not be doing.
If I heard that one more time about him walking
with emilk black they don't give a shit about who
you walk with no emilk. You ain't met no black
people in twenty years. And the black people that you
did meet, I introduced some to him, so I can
talk that shit. I'm over exaggerating. Obviously he met more
you know, black people that I was. I'm just saying,
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until they value relationships that real black people have on
the ground and the progressive movement, black people will never
go over there. They've turned a lot of Black people
off and black it is not just this boogie. You
are absolutely right. Middle class Black people are largely moderate.
They ain't with that socialism shit, y'all own, not at all,
because the reality of it is it's still a lift
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all boats tied whatever shit be over there talking about
it, and we ain't with that because we know that do
not serve us well. But I do think more black
people should be in the progressive move and I really
really do. It just ain't gonna be me. I'm not
a progressive, but I did work on a progressive campaign.
Two things can be true at the same time. Who's
up mixed or did you have any follow up with
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that trend before I go? Because I do, like, yeah,
that's all I wanted.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This is because that's why I mean, you know I
I mean, particularly with with you know, everybody on here,
you know, toring you like, That's that's all I want
to put pushback on because I want to be clear.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I'm not I mean, I'm lucky that I'm I'm doing
what I'm doing. Okay, I'm surviving in this colony. But
most of my family, even in terms of president aial election,
a lot of them are very working class or like I.
In some cases it's I got some of my student
loans forgiven. That's enough for me. I'm voting for the Democrats.
So I just wanted to I just wanted to add
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that because that's the biggest That's one of the biggest
misconceptions I hear is that black people who even next
year hurt this year, who are going to vote for Biden,
are all going to be people are making four hundred
thousand dollars Like Keep in mind, Detroit votes ninety five
percent for Democrats, and a lot of those people are
people who are very poor and very you know, my city,
downtown is a very poor city, and it's a very
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moderate democratic city.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So that's all I wanted to say. I'm glad you
brought up student loans because you know, in the conscious space,
if you will, you know, there's a lot of you know,
forget them student loans, student loans, blah dah da da dah. Well, again,
everybody should be looking at I have three degrees. I'm
going to give my fourth. I got student loans. That's
not why I vote, because again I I because of
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what I do in my work, in my life. I
typically vote a lot of collective issues, but the most
meaning the collective I'm considering collective. But for most part,
you're supposed to do what worked for you. And if
you have a four or five hundred dollars student loan,
that matters y'all got to stop shaming people for that too.
You know, y'all got that bad. Just because you're asking
go to college, don't mean like somebody else ain't supposed
to be concerned that that five hundred is not taking
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care of their kids, or that five hundred is not
going towards their rent. That's hurting them. That can be
a real issue for them. Y'all get that a lot
from these podcasts they be telling y'all ain't about student loan.
These are people that never went to college, so it's
very easy. But somebody who ain't never went to college,
don't have a student loan to be telling somebody else
what they need to be concerned about. You could say
college is a sham. You can say whatever you want
to say. But I'm here to tell you, black folks,
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I needed all the credentials because no gate was open
for me. There was no gate. No mama, no daddy
put me on. Everything I had to do. I had
to hustle, so I needed at all. I needed the degrees,
I needed the certifications, I needed the relationships. I needed
at all. So I don't shit on anybody, the trades,
all of that, whatever it is to get you to
move your family forward that works for you, the nerve
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with somebody else that decided to take a different route,
and to tell them what should matter to them. That's
what matters to them. And but let me be fair
on the other side, those of you that got college degrees, shaming,
shaming people that don't and telling it making them feel
like because they don't have a college degree, they're not
equal to you. Talented ten y'all need to have a
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ceat two. You're wrong because blue collar is critically important
and it takes the degrees, but also blue collar jobs.
So again, we have to look at what works for you.
If somebody's paying one thousand dollars a student dad, yeah
that's gonna matter to them, just like if you're paying
one thousand dollars in child support, it mattered to you
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if that's something you like, Hey, don't. I don't think
Florida should happen where if I don't pay child support
and I don't have a driver's license, they take your
driver's license. But I'm going to Florida. I never mest
so many people didn't have drivers license in my life
because they didn't pay child support and they got two
behind and they still was paying the best that they could.
They lost a job, they got on their ass. They
wasn't just dead be dad's situations put them in that way.
(23:55):
Let me deal with this because it's another I'm just
giving y'all a bunch of game today. Another talking point.
Y'all talk about how, oh yeah they got they got
motivated in the sixties to be single. I really don't
want to go there, but I do got to say
this while we're there. Oh they was, they was incentivized
to be single. Mamas. Yeah that's true, But ain't nobody
incentivize you to walk away either? Who incentivized you? I
don't know no man in my family that walked away
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from his children. Can't You can't make my ex husband
walk away from his child? What incentible? Can't You can't
incentivize him enough. You couldn't centivize my daddy enough to
walk away from me. So even if she got incentivized
to get on Section eight, that ain't incentivizing your ass
or not take care of your kids and be a
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part of their life. So let's stop that blame game.
Y'all love that talking point. It is true, but ain'tbody
telling you not to take care of your family.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
That.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Let's just keep it a buck. Men take do men
do men things, even if you got a trash baby mama,
I remember shout out to trade the truth. Those of
you follow him on instant. He put his whole story
out when he was fighting to see his baby girl.
He put it all out publicly because he wanted people
to know I'm putting it all on the line to
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see mine. You couldn't incentivize him to not stay away
from his baby girl. So now, men that want to
be in your children's life, you will be in your
child's life. Come hell loud water. If you gotta go
to court, if you gotta do whatever, you gotta lay
your body down, whatever, whether you got money or don't
have money, you gonna show up. You're gonna be something.
So let's stop. Yeah, let's stop these talking points about
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talking about what happened in the sixties. Were talking about
right now twenty twenty four. Get your ass involved in
your child's life. And it's not always gonna be a
two parent household. It is what it is. Sometime relationships
don't work out. That has nothing to do with your
relationship with your child. We'll be talking. We'll be talking
about that on tens on ten. By the way, I
just wanted to put that out there because when I
come to Twitter, you know, I gotta I try to
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give my two cents on a lot of the same
talking points that y'all put out over and over and
over and over and over. Yeah, the white man has
centivized y'all in the sixties. This twenty twenty four. Brother,
what are we up here talking about? You're gonna pay
the child's reporter, you ain't, You're gonna take care of
your child or you ain't. It's just that damn simple.
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And yes, women, let me be fair because I know
y'all like make sure I'm fair. Yes, women, you better
to stop going to get your at. You should be
supporting health care than anybody because you absolutely supporting planning.
Parent is not about just abortion. It's also about getting
you birth control of IUD get you some pills. I
was married thirteen years. I didn't have my first child
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and my only child with my ex husband. This is
his only child. We waited seven years. I'm not just
gonna sit up here and have nobody and my husband
better than my ex husband, better than a whole lot
of y'all husbands y'all live with. I'll tell them why
it didn't work out, because it just did. It ain't
none of your damn business. But he in my life
every step of the way, and better than most of y'all.
And I mean that can fix anything, stop everything. I
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live in the city right around the corner from them.
We coparing to the highest level. That's why I'm able
to do all of this that I do. Shout out
to the black men in the building. Make care of
their kids. And he's a mechanic, and I helped him
start from the bottom from being floating all the way
to being a district manager. And this is his only child.
By the way, he didn't go out and have no
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fifteen other kids and no fifteen other women. He said,
It'll only be by one woman, my forever wife. And
I'm still on healthcare and still on the insurance. Yeah,
that's how you get it done, ladies. We have that
another other conversation, And y'all know it's true because Marcella's
has been a witness when he's popped up over here
and said it on the live. Because I love receipts.
This is my forever wife. So let's just be clear.
(27:35):
I can't get rid of them. Some of y'all looking
for a man. I'm trying to figure out how to
get rid of them. So let's not the run of
receipts on that. What's the next question. We don't currently
have anyone else in the key. Nobody else has anything
to say, no feedback. I appreciate you guys tapping in
put a one hundred if you love these random conversations
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where we're tapping in, you know, across the board. I
love when you guys chime in and makes the show fuller.
It is really important that I engage with you guys,
It really really is. Jay you said, I need to
tell him block somebody. That person is still here, because
I would love him to come forward and explain why
he blocked me. Sure, actually you blocked him because I
believe he was trolling.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
He wanted to repent for his trollish ways. So I
will get on that right now. I'll come.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I'll be interested to know. I'll be interested to
know why is trollish ways? Why are you come before
the congregation and less repent? Because it's always love in
my heart and the receipt show it like I love
my people. You can't run me off nowhere when every
talking about we don't ran you ain't ran me off? No,
damn well ran me off? What we run me?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
How?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You run me off anywhere? You ran me straight to where?
And for what?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Justin I will say this, I know this your hold
spaces A lot of people be on their best behavior
because I see some folks that don't act like this.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Another spaces, but.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Your house. I'm gonna sitting there with my drinking post up.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well, I mean, hey at the n day. See. The
thing is, you gotta be able to back it up
with receipts. I don't get on here and just be
talking and theorizing it. Well, what we need to do,
brother and sister and brother brother, you got to come
with the receipts with me, and they ain't got to
like me, but I'm gonna run the receipt This is
Google verifiable shit. This ain't theories, This ain't talking. This
ain't oh yeah, you doing it for you doing it
(29:22):
for cloud? You doing? Are you crazy? I have a
contract with iHeart Radio sers and ma'am, I don't get
paid off. No damn clicks on no YouTube, but y'all crazy,
not at all. I really rock with y'all because I
just rock with y'all. It's hard to fight the receipts Storr,
and it really is. It's not about bragging, it's just
keeping it real. Telling when people come at me and
they think they know me and think, don't worry, just
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follow me a little while longer, and it's gonna all
make sense. Them receipts gonna all make sense. I've been
talking about the same thing for the last fifteen years
while everybody else talking about everything else. Every other day
they talking about everything else. I'm gonna be talking about
the same shit, whether it's twenty people listening. It's consistency
at the end of the day. And when I throw
back then receipt, you can't. You can't. The facts are
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the facts.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
And you know it test real quick. The sad part
is it's even when you bring receipts and you're just
trying to give information, right, but for some sad reason,
people will feel like you're trying to one up them
and want to argue with you. And I'm like, family,
I'm not. Nobody's trying to one up you. I'm just
sharing information. It's like you said, it's all google ble.
(30:30):
That's just a sad part. I wish we could just
share information like you're doing here tz and and people
not trying to just one up you all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well I'm welcome. I welcome the one up. So for
me personally, I welcome the one up because it's gonna
take about two up with me. I welcome. I welcome
the one up. If you're gonna tell me about a campaign,
I'm gonna ask you when the last campaign you worked, Well,
you know I ain't worked on camp. Okay, then what
are we moving on to the next caller? So I
like the one up. I welcome the one up. I
like one on one. Let's go one on one. Let's
go one on one. When it comes to me and
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you're challenging me, I don't like talking to talk. If
we're gonna talk about it, we did to talk about
like that brother that got up tread. I believe when
he got up and said he worked on the campaign,
and then when he mentioned Cleveland, it wasn't nothing for
him to He couldn't combat what I said because I
was her director of com so surely he know what
I said. Was the truth. I could have went along
(31:18):
with and said, oh man, they did send it to
turn and so wrong. That's a friend of mine. I
had her on the Breakfast Club this morning. I went
out of my way to make sure she was quoted
on the Breakfast Club this morning. She didn't ask me
to do that. I did that. Don't nobody rock with
her harder than me. But I'm still gonna tell you
the truth. And the truth of the matter is she
hadn't been on the ground in six six years. That
made a difference. And when Tred said, well, they wasn't
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supporting her on this app. Can't nobody on this app makeup?
When they raised a lot of money, they came down
they don't vote in Cleveland. Them people that's supporting on
this app do not voting Cleveland. That made a difference.
Rashida to Lee walked the dog on. They ass they
raised just as much money, if not more, But that
woman works on the ground. Do y'all realize that Detroit
doesn't have Detroit as the black city outside of Jackson?
(32:02):
I believe, Do y'all realize there's no black representation from
Michigan none. They outworked in black folks I know because
my girlfriend worked up the person that was running against
Rashida Telee. Rashida Lee walked the dog on them when
it comes to knocking on that door. So you can't
just say, oh, it's just money. How did they do it?
(32:22):
That same organization, the same organization went after Rashida Saliba.
I've never met Sharida's sleeper of Rashida's leber damn my life,
but I know she ran circles around them, seven black
people she was running against, and they come down to
knocking on them doors. That's why Biden better be very
afraid of Michigan, because when it comes to the American
(32:45):
in the Muslim population, they ain't playing no games with you.
It ain't just Twitter with them. They about that door bused.
You can believe that. I know because I worked in
that state. That's why she was Rashida Telei and the
other person I forgot his name American and the Muslims
run run that not black people. The establishment, all of
them touring, they all rent, and she walked the dog
(33:08):
on all seven of them because you cannot out work her.
The lady that she was running against, aka Establishment, The
same organization that tried to take down Rashida, to try
to take down Nina Turner put the same money behind her,
(33:28):
and she got her ass dusted because she didn't show
up to nothing. She wasn't working, the people didn't believe
in the Rashitas lead did better in the hood than
she did. And she was a former elected officials, the
former city clerk. No, she thought she could just walk
her ass up in there and take that seat where
shea's leave ad news for her. And she's the loudest
in Congress, constantly getting in trouble. When you got your
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city on lock, can't nobody keep you from that seat.
She works the ground. Her work ethic beat all of
them black people. That's really what it is. At the
end of the day. I know a lot of these
people that need to get some subscribes and clicks and
likes and all of that, who ain't never worked on
no race. I'm telling you what it is, baby, on
that damn crown. You got to work on this ground.
It's the hardest thing ever. It's hard to get candidates
(34:11):
and get them doors slammed in their face. Thought, that's
the only representative. Cool, that's the elected one. Okay, Yeah,
you might be right. I'm not sure, but I know
it's too. I know she's I'm familiar with Rashida Sale's race,
uh because my girlfriend Jay you know, Michelle, she worked
on the campaign against her. So I had a very
(34:33):
inside view of watching why the how the dog got
walked on them even with all the money a pack,
the organization, the Jewish organization, that's the largest pack in
the in the country, the most powerful pack. They put
the same money behind Rashida's lead. Go google it, and
she beat them. She beat him. She knows her. She
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ain't out there talking to people that don't rock with her.
She talking to the people that rock with her. That's
the key. And they got that shit on lock in
Michigan and that's why, and that's why you don't have
any black representation in Michigan. So yes, people supported in
a Turner financially, but they did not live in the
city of Cleveland enough. And she did very well and honestly,
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in my opinion, better than what I thought, because that
district votes seventy percent Joe Biden period. Now go runner
in California, y'all encourage it. I told her, go to California,
you win right out the gate. You want to be
in Congress so bad. I think she's better, more effective
outside of Congress. But that's just my personal opinion. Let
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me unblock whoever, let me unblock. I got it now, Jay, okay,
And then nextcept we have Immortal Melanie followed by run out,
and I've unblocked the person to come before the congregation
and on their trollish ways. Because by the way, I
don't even know these people that was trolling and making
(35:55):
disc records and all this old bullshit. I'll give shit
about which I'll talk about. I don't rant one three
awards since then, the United States Department of Congress u
CLA black lawsuitents chased minority entrepreneur a year. I don't
give the shit about them disc records. You can run
them back back, send it to me. I'll put a
high sixteen on it. Be more strategic. Can say, hey, Tess,
can you get on the with us. I'll get on
the witch you and we can do it back and forth.
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It hit them up. I can't wrap. By the way,
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