June 27, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yet to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Real, let's just keep it real, straight shot with no chasing.
I'm gonna get a little bit ruptured. I'm here for it.
Those who really believed in the American process, all of
us Street Shot, No Chase with your girl Tesslom figure
out on the Black Effect podcasting network forbody Tenslim figure
out here in the Building, another episode of straight Shot,
(00:30):
No Chaser. Excited, uh, because I always excited to have Marcellus,
who'll be working so hard, like he say, just so
that Marcella's but I get to have my baby big
sister because she ain't like she twelve, but my baby sister,
(00:50):
Michelle Wadley in the building. I told her to come
come on and chop it up with us, and so
she's I'm honored that she decided to take some time,
you know, the kind of choplo women by politics.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So hello Michelle and Marcellus.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hello, I don't know how you. I don't know what
to feel about that being honored and that is that
a set up for the downfall?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Here came up have your presence.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Later she fluffed me before she asks me, and it's okay,
I'm gonna happen to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Damn, where's the trust? I can't even honor.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
This is experience. I got experience. I just got experience.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Experience. That's right now.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm abouing to be honorable and respectful. But okay, final
lyt's get to a da.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Money.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You failed, but I'm here for it. Effort.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, I brought Michelle long because those who don't know
Michelle and I, I've been trying to get rid of
her for now.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Over ten years.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And we met on the Bernie Sanders campaign, and for real,
y'all really been trying to.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Get rid of Michelle.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Like, for real, I ain't going nowhere. I'm like baby's kids,
I don't die, I multiply, I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Not going No, don't coll grimlin. I really I told
her to begin. I don't do new friends. I don't
just let's just do the campaign.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Let's just move for it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She insisted, stay consistent, and so she just really became
a very very important person in my life for real.
So we lived together on the Bernie Sanders campaign. We
met each other right out the gate, you know, like
for the first time. I'm just like, if you go
to college or go to the military, we met up, like, hey,
we're gonna be living together, you know, pick me up
at the airport, and uh, we've been just rocking ever since.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And so you fag when you.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Mean like y'all roommate it for real?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
When we worked on the African American Outreach team for
Bernie Sanders, Bernard as I don't know, I'd.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Like to call him.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
In twenty fifteen, when nobody knew who Bernard was. I
will never forget this of the story forever, because when
my ex husband dropped me out at the airport, he
was like, seem like you just wasting your time. Now
who you say you want to work with? I was like,
you know, Bernie Sanders, the one with the gray hair,
the one that like that's literally.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
How we would have to introduce in the people people
didn't know, that's right. We literally be like, you know,
the old man, the guy that dah dah dah. You
know Michelle be on Snapchat or Instagram going live every
day and saying, yeah, I'm up from the Bernard or
like she said, the Bernie campaign, and they'd be like,
who's Bernie and she would have to say, yeah, you know,
the older guy, da da Da. So we were the
(03:41):
original Olg's, negro OG's or the Bernie Sanders campaign on
the national level that many people you know, volunteered on
the local level all that, but our campaign was about
ten of us.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I guess Michelle and I were only two women, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And they had us all meet up in Atlanta and
live in some airbnbs. So Michelle was my roommate and
she picked them up at the airport. So no, yeah,
we literally lived together. Like we would go be on
the road for like two three weeks at a time,
and then go back home for a week and then
come back. So at that time, one weekend I would
go see Jada with at that time, when was that
(04:20):
ten years ago, so seven seven or eight at that time,
and then the following week I would go see my mom,
who was on chemo at that time.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Would cancer I talk about a lot. Yeah, So I
rotated at that time.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Actually when I got my iPhone for the first time,
because I want to be able to FaceTime you know,
my mom and Jada, and so Michelle and I lived
together over that time. So we would travel from place
to place. And this is why I talk to shit.
I do Marcella's like we literally would go to a
new city, nobody knowing nothing about who Bernie Sanders is,
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nobody knowing nothing about whatever, and they say, hey, we
got three days to build up and our office, go
find a black people.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And when we say build up a office, I mean literally,
you know, like, okay, get office space. You know this
office space we're reporting to. How do we find black people?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay? Where are the churches that we need to go
meet with? Who call? Where are the barbershops were?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, like literally just drop down in a city
that you know nothing about and your job was to
do black outreach.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You want to chime in on that and explain something, Marcella,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, that's even if you got a day's notice, you'd
be on the road. I'd be on the road in
the middle afternoon, be told I had a flight to Colorado,
a flight to kids in the city, a flight to
New York, a flight toever And I was expected to
come in, like Tess said, we were expected to come
in and build up an entire operation in a matter
of you know, essentially ours who are the black elected officials,
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who are the black community leaders?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And you got to figure that out on the fly.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So and for a candidate that, again that you described
as the old guy, you know that in this you know,
with the gray hair, like no one knew who he was.
And even if you explained what he stood for, a
lot of the progressive tenants that Bernard Stoff for were
not tenants that black people were for. And so you
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only not only had you did you have to introduce
the candidate, you had to explain his campaign platforms and
then explain why they would be beneficial to black folks.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And so.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Having TZ on that campaign, I would not have survived
that campaign without TZ. And when we met, it was
just something that clicked. I remember we were working with
doctor West. He asked us, said what way? He said,
how long y'all been friends? How long y'all known each other?
And I think we said a week. We had only
known each other for a week, And I remember it
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being surprised the week y'all I would have thought y'all
known each other for years. I mean, there was just
something about Tedz that resonated. We had a situation very
early on where you know, it was a crossroad for
me and she told me, Hey, this is what's gonna happen.
This is what you can expect. You know, choose your side,
and I can attribute to choosing the right side, which
(07:15):
is let me go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
She'd being nice about it. I told her they're gonna
try to set you up and work against me.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's what I really told her about hours.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they're gonna try to set you up. They're gonna
try to get you to go against him. Michelle, She's like,
what are you talking about. I said, don't worry. You're
gonna see twenty four to forty hours. And that's exactly
what happened. And I just know that it has happened
every time. It's always happened in the military, on jobs
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But it always is.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They always try to figure out a way to get
the female against me. And Michelle decided to bet on
Tels and guess what she bet right? You know, ten
ten plus years later, she's being diplomatic, and she's more
diplomatic than me.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I want the people to know exactly what it is. Well,
let me ask you thou let me.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Say this one hold and think about that question. I
hold it. I want to piggyback on. Michelle said, not
only did people under it was more than even explaining
what progresses, what policies were beneficial black people, people that
know what progressive movement was. So that's why I'm not live.
When I was explaining about the progressive movement and why
(08:19):
I take issue, we're not really take issue, but kind
of shut down people.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Who want to argue me back.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm telling you what it was like on the front
end of the movement itself. Now, people may have used
progressive many times before.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't know. I'm not a student of history in
that way.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
You know, I don't know if the word was used
back in nineteen sixty five, So don't nobody sent no email.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Progressive was first used in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm saying, in our era, you know, our generation, you know,
this movement of the Obama I'm counting from Obama to now.
The progressive movement came alive with Bernie Sanders. So everything
as far as what is a ressive, what is progressive
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policies and what you know, even the debate that exists today,
are you really a socialist?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Are you a progressive? What is the progressive movement?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
This massive popular which now is one of the most
popular senators in the country. This massive, you know storm
if you will, of just excitement around Bernie Sanders. We
were the only black people literally who were responsible for
that as far as black outreach was concerned.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I take credit even for the white stuff because we
all had to play a part in it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But particularly with black people and the surrogance that you
knew the first ones that started out Nina Turner, Killer,
Mike Sean King, King later in twenty twenty, but in
twenty sixteen, it really was just us and doctor West.
So what I'm telling y'all that I'm telling you what
it was like in the room at the beginning of
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this making these decisions on what is black outreach and
what should that look like and how much should be
invest I'm telling you what was going on, you know,
in those conversations that l on the on the onset right.
What was your question, Marcellis, Oh, I was just going
to ask, uh, what made.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I guess y'all can answer an individual with what made
j'all want to work on Bernie Senators campaign? I'll let
you go first.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Uh. For me, at the time, I was really looking
for the campaign experience and the opportunity to work on
a campaign at that level I had completed. I think
someone talked about one of your lives earlier tis the
Congressional Black caucas Blue Camp. I had done that work.
I had worked on campaigns at the local and state
level and was looking for an opportunity to advance my
(10:44):
skill set. And I had actually tried to work on
various campaigns and found that my work with the Congressional
Black Caucus in that training provided an opportunity for me
to work on the Sanders campaign. I was I was
like Tenzo, had the same experience with people questioning why
would I go and do that. At the time, I
(11:05):
was working for the Secretary of State and he was
running for US Senate, and so people would ask, you know,
why would you go work for this guy that nobody
knows instead of working for the guy that's running for
senate in your home state.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But I just felt.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
When I looked at the you know, the timeline and
the opportunity made more sense to get the presidential campaign experience.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
M gotcha.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
My as a real sympol I was Nina Turner, Senator
Nina Turner, then director of Communications, and I had been
for years and so when she left the Hillary campaign
as one of the women surrogans, not really visible, but
you know, one of the many. They had hundreds, and
she decided to go to the Bernie Sander campaign.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
She brought me with her. It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It was not because I gave I cared about Bernard
or that I was a socialist, because I was not.
I make this sentertorn. You know, you've heard her tell
this story publicly Marcella's you know, when I went in
to what was a guest allegedly an interview and they
were like, well, you know, you got to support Bernie,
and I was like, I'm here for Nina, So that
(12:16):
doesn't work for you. I don't know to tell you.
And even Nina said, she says she's never seen anybody
do that. She talks about this live. She's like, I've never.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Seen a figure. Oh you got to get the job.
You got to say. I said, I don't do that.
I don't just say whatever to get the job. Because
you said I don't give a damn about the job
job because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And let's also want I want to be very clear
why that was so strange to her, because I was
the only mother on that campaign. Female wise, I think
a couple of guys may have had some kids. I'm
not sure, but it's from what I can remember, I
was the only parent and I just put it I
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did not have a job. I just put it in
an application at Kroger for real, you know, in my one.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
But I just moved to Houston.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The job didn't work out. I said, like I say
every year, I'm done with this. I'm getting out of this.
It's like something gonna break, something gonna break. And I
was getting ready to start sacking groceries for real, and
Nina Turners like, oh, I just got this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You know, should I go to the Bernie Sands campaign.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I've always been in advisit of her on what she
should and shouldn't I do, and always just worked with
her on whatever project she had, so she brought me along.
So she was thinking, like most humans, you don't say
whatever to get the job.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
At least you know.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Get the job, you need the job. You literally have
a seven year old and a mama died with cancer.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Get the job. This is again, this is not bragging.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's just making the distinction, Michelle, between me and them,
As you know I do all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Even when the pressure was on.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Even when it made total sense to just say whatever
to get the job, I was not gonna do that.
I was totally okay with Ubrin. I was totally okay
with sacking groceries. It need be because I knew that
there was going to become a time well, my loyalty
would be tested. And I am a very loyal person.
Anybody knows me knows I am very loyal, yep. And
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that is one thing I do not compromise as my loyalty.
And that time did come several times on the campaign,
several several times, even when I have my fall out
with Bernie. Never ever would I go against Nina, you
know what I mean. No matter what, we can have our.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Fallouts, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I know that loyalty is going to knock at
the door at some point, and what are you going
to choose? So why would I even set myself up
to be in a situation when I know that more
than likely I'm not going to choose the direction you
want me to go in. So let's just save everybody
in trouble and let me just tell you the truth
(14:43):
from the outset, yep, from the now set. And that's just
something you don't see a lot of people do. It's
not as I say that again, not to brag, but
to show you what it looks like Michelle not do
this work. We're doing this work over ten years together.
We're always pushing each other. It's not to say you
should do this. You know Michelle, like she said, it
was a great opportunity. She's an awesome operative. I went
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to Congressional Black Caucus too, But again I didn't go
to the Congressional Black caucas because I was working on
somebody's campaign. Our experience is very different. She was working
on somebody's campaign. They sent her to that. Somebody believe
in her. I just just happened to go Corns and
Brown was like, you should go. I like the way
you argue with DoD online. I've never worked for her
or anybody else. Most people the want you that training
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ourselves with people that worked on campaigns, you know at
that level or knew somebody. I got in that by accident,
which is why I cried the whole time with shoes
with holes at the bottom of my shoes. So everything
that I've been in or thrown in has been by
divine order, and that's why I can stand on it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The way I do.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know what I mean, I know that if you
have me here for this reason, it's for this reason,
and I truly trust him. I truly believe that what
for me is for me.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I truly believe it. It's not up to man, truly do.
But it doesn't minimize.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Michelle's calling or what God has for her.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's one of the things we talk about all
the time.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
We need people to make the choice, the career choice,
or the opera choice, you know, or the whatever it is.
We need people to know, let's a push the lot.
It is all about right, that's right. Let my experience
make you question yours, know yours, and stand in that
and know that neither one of us.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Are minimizing our experience.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Where we gotta know where we're adding this because the
sacrifices that I make, I need Michelle. Somebody gotta have
a damn job. We can't all crash out on the
job like Marcella's does on a.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Like nobody got to have a job around it, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like for real, well what I've heard, because you are
the big sister I never knew I needed and want
it so bad, which is why I bet on Test
and I went about to let you go after that campaign.
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But what I've learned in watching you is for all
of the greatness that you exude and being convicted and
loyal and all the things that you do, there's a
price that comes with that, and that is what you
have to be willing to pay if we're gonna walk
that walk. And that's why you have to be confident
in who you are, how you move, and what your
role is, because while it all looks good on.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The surface, there's there's a price to be paid for.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
How Test moves. And am I gonna be willing to
pay that price? And nine times out of tendant to know,
but there's a price to be paid for keeping a.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Job, you know, just right right right?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We just all want to know what when we when
we get all of our items at the CBS, we
just want to know what the cost is.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And my job is to show you what the cost
is so that way when they print out all the receipts,
you're not confused. Yes, you're not confused, you know. And
also you going with that man, you know when you
go to CB ooh, this is a good one. Speak
to me God, when you go to CBS and you
purchase those items, and now I'm getting ready top preciatey'all
for a moment.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We ready, girl.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
When you go to those when you go to CBS
and you get the doctor Pepper, you get whatever it
is you get. You notice that the receipts they give
you back may not always necessarily be for more doctor Pepper.
It's something else that is for you. And so if
we operate like that, if we think about the receipt
holder of all receipts, if we think about God and
our purpose, everything that I'm bringing to the counter, everything
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that I thought I need, he knows that there's something
else that I need that I wasn't thinking about.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Ooh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He knows that when I scan that item and when
I say this is what I need, that he also
says there's something on the back end. Like you just
heard Michelle the big Sister. I never know I had
Michelle got eight brothers and sisters. So when you went
and scanned it, okay, I'm going for this, I got
something else on the back end. I know you thought
you needed a doctor Pepper, but you actually need another sister, Teslin.
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I know you a only child and you really really
don't want those sisters. But I'm gonna give you one anyway.
I'm gonna give you somebody to pour into that you
can actually see, that you can see it blossom, that
you can see because a lot of the work that
you do, Tesla, that you ain't gonna see. You're not
gonna see the fruit that bears that comes from the tree.
So I'm gonna give you somebody that you can actually
pour into and actually bear witness to what God has
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called you to do. So when we think about the
receipts and we think about that, we think about he
gives us all the things that we need and all
the things we didn't know we need, and he still
gives us a cuepop for more, Doctor Pepper, What does
that mean, Marcellus.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That means He's gonna bless you tenfold. So even for
the things that you bring him your gift, I am
giving you my gift. I'm giving you all I know
how to do. This is all I have that I'm
bringing to the King. That song when it say take
you to the King I played at my mother's funeral.
I've given you all I have to bring.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
If you visualize that at the CVS and you visualize
even when you know, you go in the store and
you don't have the basket, basket, can't find no basket.
So you're just putting it all in your hand. So
you need a little bit of this and a little
bit of that, and you think about that, and you
think about how God operates in your life.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm giving you all I have to breathe. I don't
have room for it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But the Bible says I'll give you room enough to
receive then and more some. All he's asked me to do,
Marcella's is just scan it and put it on the table.
Put with your gift on the table. That's what push
the line is all about. Put what you have available
to him and watch him give you tenfold and give
you more than what you did.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And I know you need.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And that's why the words say I'll give you more
than you have room enough to receive. But we must
be willing to go in the store. We must be
willing to go through the sacrifice. We must be willing
to go out by out. We must be willing to
stand in the long line.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's what Michelle is talking about the consequences that come
with this. We must be willing to do it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You must be willing to hold all oh you can
hold until your arms are tired, and when your arms
are tired, like what Moses talks about when Aron lifted
up Moses's arms and said, when your arms are tired,
I will lift them up for you. All of these
things are important if we understand our purpose and in
our role. It's not for me to turn and look
at Michelle's basket and say why you got that and
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why I don't have this, and tell them you got
that gift, and why God didn't give me this.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I'm Michelle, you got that gift. Why didn't she get
a Michelle, I've been working on that for ten years
because it was meant for you to have that. He
gave you what you had, and my role, my calling, I.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Believe what God has called me to do, is to
teach you how to look in your own basket and
know that everything you have in front of you is worthy,
it's worthy, and it's important.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And if it's ten people behind you in the line
that said it ain't.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Worth it, it's ten more of me right in front of you,
saying gone and swipe that thing. Look ahead the Bible,
say look forward to when that's coming my help. Don't
worry about what the enemy saying behind you, Harry up,
what's taking us so long?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Why she's scanning so long? What's taking up? Damn?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
She got the line held up. Don't worry about that.
Marcella's look ahead, m I sure be preaching, y'all girl.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay, what's his name?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The Wayne?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
What what your producer?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
He did some handclouds on that.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't turn this Wednesday, not
Bible study. Yeah, well I'm here for it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
When God give me those messages, especially when you can visualize.
So as I was telling the story, I hope you
were visualizing it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Everybody can know what it means to go in the store,
you know, and the crab things last minute things you
didn't that you forgot to get. Walk at the store
all day. I forgot to get this, forgot to get that.
He knows everything, and we just have to trust him.
And it's hard to trust when you don't know the
price of it.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's hard to trust if I don't know if I'm
aawipe my credit card. Do I have enough on the
balance that's it?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Is there something else in me? Because I don't think
I have nothing left right now. You're going through something
in your life with the people that can hear me
with sound of my voice, going through something that you
just literally don't know if you have something that. Is
there anything left on the credit card that can Can I.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hold something else? Yes? Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
People say, well, he give you something, you know, they
always say, he don't give you more than you can
bear it. No, because there's a lot of people that
come in suicide, so a lot of people that can't
bear it, so a lot of people that overdraft. We
can't just assume that somebody can bear it. No, Sometime
I just can't bear it. Sometime I need another credit line,
that's right. Sometimes I need a little bit of extra
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little overdraft protection. See a little bit of overdraft protection.
Come on now, and this is where you be a relationship.
But I'm also very careful with who I build relationship with.
And that's why when I tell them shell, no, everybody
don't just get to come in my life. That overdraft
protection I need is real. You got access to breaking
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the bank. It's one thing to be in the comments
sation another when you in my life. Well, now I'm
vulnerable to you. So show up how I need you
to show up. And it may not be what I
find with people with me, they think you don't need
to show up in the way you think you need
to show up with me. Show up in the way
that I need you to show up. And it may
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not be what you think.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It may not be money, it may not be a word,
it may not be whatever. It just might be testing
I'm here. However, you need me to show up, that's it.
Michelle and I worked on that a lot because she
would be like, well, I want to be even and
give you what your girl. You can't give me what
I give you. And that's why I'm the big sister.
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It's gonna be a train wreck.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And why they have that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Same conversation with my sister. Believe me, just a few
months ago and I was having I was saying, ooh my,
this is what Tess was talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, like, what's your mean? And we struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Even with men especial men in my life, they can't
the gift the feminine. You know, the male female interrupts
a lot of times the gifts. Yes, God is operating
in me, not gender, you know what I mean. He's operating.
He sent you a comforter. But because of the male
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gender role, you can't get past you know what I mean.
Sometime they can't get passed. No, he just sent you
a comfort. I know it's disturbing for me to be
right about a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's disturbing to me. I don't want to be right.
I'm not right about everything.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But there is something about prophecy, gift of prophecy and
discernment and saying things and calling things out. And that's
why when I y'all know, I share stuff with you
all the time, I told you all this was gonna happen.
I told y'all it's not because I'm needing somebody to
help me keep score. It's because I want you to
know that when when you're tuned in and you're listening
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to God and have more here can show you certain things.
If you tap in right, you don't have to go
along to get along.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
That's right, and it's it's again, it's rare to see
that in people, to see people move that way, and
I think that's what either draws people to you or
becomes a challenge. It's one thing to say I'm loyal.
It's another to turn down a job when you need
a job to show that you're loyal, like to show
what that actually looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Right, And if we just continue to trust you know,
I'll say this before we close out. I was gonna
talk about but this was so good, so I know
to have you on, I just let the spirit move.
I want to talk about progressives and outreach and all
that kind of stuff, but it just kind of goes
back to trusting him. You know. I went viral last
week and whatever that means to go viral, but the
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Shade Room definitely you would consider viral.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, So look, let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And it's so interesting because I did not want to
do that hit that day, as you know, and Marcella's
you know, because y'all work with me, Box called me
all the time and I'd just be like, hell whatever, yep,
And this one particular day, I was, honestly, and I
probably still got them the text. I was like, oh
hold up, wait a minute, my schedule got overbooked. It
really didn't get over booked. PoTA did being and I
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was gonna put because she was like and as y'all know,
they don't give me the topics per se. You know,
they'd be like, oh, can you come on to night? Yep,
I'm in whatever city. Then they tell me what for?
They just won me on and then I was like,
oh what I said. I was like, I don't feel
like gonna talk about that. I'm so tired talking about this.
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And then I was like, well, let me go. And
I just wanted to move that day and I said, well,
let me just go on and go do it. But
it's just it's always just to show like when you're
just sobedient and just do what you're supposed to do.
One of the reasons that Fox has been so exhausting
to do is because there has not been support. And
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you know this Frochelle and yeah, so you definitely know this.
And it's never been about the support because if it
wasn't would have stopped a long time ago. Because there
hasn't been any support, meaning the mass is overall like
some people know I do it, but really people don't.
Outside of Charlemagne killing Mike even being crumb don't share
my Fox commentary. But outside of that, no, people don't know,
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like consistent, because you gotta realize because even though y'all
be thinking everybody know on Marsett, they don't know. No,
everybody dos on Marset. They don't know a NONPARTI sand me,
no Marcella's people. People have to see things like over
and over and over and over and over in the algorithms.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You know. It's like I can post something about the
training and somebody said, oh, I never said, even though
I posted ten times a day.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Everybody don't know what I do with Fox. Even everybody
everybody follows me don't know. They don't know I'm a revoked.
They know I've been on the repens CAUP, they don't know.
It takes a lot to get that out. So it's
never been a massive amount of support. In fact, it's
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been ostracized. I've been canceled, I've lost contracts as a result. Yes,
I'll never forget. Yeah, and that's a fact. Jord Reed
called me when I went on Fox and said I
can't believe you over there, And I probably still got
the text because I keep my texts fever. But when
she said I can't leave you over there with Fox.
Please don't tell me over there talking to them. Worst
career decision you made, da da and called me on
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the phone to tell me, and I was like, but
I'm over here speaking black people.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Da da da da. It don't matter.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You don't need to get in bed with them, Da
da da. So to have her be the one to
share it, which is what the Shade Room ultimately shared.
Her company just supposed to show you, Michelle, because you
saw this in real time that when you say, consistent
on what it is you're supposed to do, because it
ain't about Jorge read if somebody came in, it's about
God showing up to say she wasn't my enemy, but
I'm just using the enemy to be your footstool. That
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even those who were against what you were doing, and
you know I'm Michelle. My favorite scripture Revelations three twelve,
where I say.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
They will know it was you.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was me the whole time I put the crown.
It was me all alone. Yes, you will never ignore it.
It's those moments. And Joey may not even remember her
doing that. I think she do, and I think that
was her way of being supportive.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I don't know. I'm grateful that she did, not because
of the Shade Room, but just to show, like a
Michelle's somebody in my life like them, I said, you
know the close people that follow me or you don't
know my work, just to show y'all that God really
do got it. Yes, he really got it. He really do.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And you know, I don't give a shit about being popular.
I don't care about that, y'all know. Hey, if it
ain't about training, I ain't with it.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yep, I don't care about none of this.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
But every now and then he liked to show up
to say, yeah, I got it, I got you just
know I am the ultimate Shade Room.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, I am the one.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So those who didn't support, even if the reasons were
not to benefit me, because you gotta know that too,
it wasn't it does. I don't know her genuine reason.
It could be they just like talking about Fox News.
I know, Shade Room just wanted to show joy talking
shit about Fox you know, like, I'm not confused. Never
drink your on kool aid, don't get confused. So that's
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where a lot of people crash out. They think it
becomes about them. However, it got manipulated for it to happen.
Not my concern. My concern is letting those of you
that rock with me know that in the end and
at the end of the day, stay consistent on who
you are. Continue to do with God's call you dude,
even people tell you it don't make no sense on.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
This Da da da da da. Continue to be consistent
because now all of a sudden, these same people said
never go to Fox, we don't need to.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
They're now realizing you cannot continue to talk to your
own choir.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And think you're gonna get anything accomplished.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That's it, Like you said, be obedient. That being obedient
is is like you said, Keith, and your obedient consistent
do what you're supposed to do. God shows up.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
He does, and he and with me, and he has
to show up for me, like real bold like that, y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, because I don't have.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I do have people that I admire, but I don't
have like a big sister like Michelle got me.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Is like I don't have a I do have peers, you.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Know, I talk to Michelle, workshop stuff out, best friend, prayer.
You know, I got peers, but I don't necessarily have
a go to.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I don't have a teslum from Tesslim right.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So, and I walk in soul divine order in some
things because I do things that most people don't, I
have to have a different I gotta have the burning
bush like literally, you know what I mean, Like I
gotta like if I'm like man Marcelle's I'm done. It's
great hear marce Marcela saying no, God, I got something
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mess for you, But I.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Gotta it don't work like that.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It gotta be like that's good to hear, but I
gotta something gotta line up, you know what I mean,
Like he gotta be you gotta make.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It real clear.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Because whatever it is he has for me to endure
requires that level of confidence. Like Michelle said, I can't
waiver on it. I can't question. Was Michelle Wright about
this or was marcell'es right back there?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
He has to give me a whole armor, you know,
of clarity on how I'm moving. I'll say this before
I go, And Michelle, you should watch this, you know,
Barbara Watchers great documentary on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Oh yeah, that's on my watch list.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, you always gonna watch list. But you never watch it.
You know you.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Got word some Marceill, well, at least myself, don't lie
about it. He said he ain't watching it, watching it,
it ain't shame about it. And just as another one,
mind that Marcello's has never watched the color purpose.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Of watch It just takes me a while.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
But it is on my watch list.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Gary, you got about fifty things. You always those on
my watch list. But Oprah was talking about it was
one of those. I watched it not to get a spoiler,
but she was saying she knew she could not be both.
She could not be a good mother and be Oprah.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And she's right.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Contrary to Marcellis's belief, being a parent is more than
getting a tax refund y'all get them refunds, though what
don't And I don't show you what I got faith
being a parent, reponds one you around.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So network is amazing. Look an text the Dutchess.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
But we ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We ain't gonna make up get text. You know somebody
don't really somebody.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Marcella's heard over that it's a lot of parents behind
this up, behind.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
These sex rep.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So I watched that and I said, Wow, it makes
total sense. And as I'm starting my next chapter in
life older, I do not regret being a mom. And
I felt even prouder Michelle, because I was like, I
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really made the sacrifice, you know what I mean, Like
I really Barbara Watcher's daughter, you know, did drugs really
really bad and she was never home and ran away
and you know she's Barbara Walters, you know, two different
city and she was more motivated to be Barbara Watchers.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I'm just so grateful I never got that, bug.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I really felt good, like, wow, I never because you know, Michelle,
I'm like that for real, like I really don't give
a shit, Like no, you know, you really don't the money,
the fame or whatever. And I adore like white Lady
and all like Barbara walk like that's it, you know,
that's the pennacil of that. But I still don't. I
never I feel like, Okay, if I'm gonna be Barbara Walters,
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it's gonna have to be now in this big age,
you know. And so watching that and watching how she
started the view at sixty, I left like, Okay, if
there is something else, and I don't think it's in
this television space. I really really enjoyed training. I felt
really good about doing.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Jada was worth every moment. I am so glad that
I did not have. I never Marcella's one time, and
that was one point why I had her older. Never
at one time felt she was in the way or
stopping me for something. I always know that I would
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do the best that I absolutely could do, you know,
with the cars I was dealt with, and once she
went to college, I know, you know, Okay, there's an
opportunity to do something different, even at this big age.
And I'm just I just feel really good about that.
So God just didn't. He didn't He took away the
desire for material things, the desire for advancement, career advancement.
(37:46):
But I don't doubt people that have that, you know, Like,
I think it's great. I want to encourage you to
ge everywhere. And I think I'm pretty damn ambitious myself,
to be honest.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
But I would think, so, yeah, look all the things
that you've done yet that screams ambition.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
It's what I would say that if I was single,
if I didn't have a kid, I'd be stomping a
mud hole in y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Ass. That's for sure that I know.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I think this is where we start to break up.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Sorry, yeah, can I know, but I but I am
very grateful, you know, to not even feeling like now
I got to compare myself to you know, by maybe
if I didn't have a kid, I did it, you
know like that.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's been the own blessing to watch Jada and her
little Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
This has been real fun this last sixty days, like
turning into this little woman overnight. I'm talking to about
the club and oh wow, who this dad?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
And I'm like, oh am I really talking about the club.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
And you know, it's just just a lot, but it's exciting.
It's bittersweets, kind of sad, but it's also exciting because
I would get.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
To mold a little young you know, a young adult.
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That's so it's pretty cool in law school and Michelle's
been a great study partner with me with that, pushing
Michelle to go get to go into law school as well.
So guys, I'm just excited about where I am. I
don't think I'll ever be wealthy, wealthy rich, and I'm
totally okay with it. People say, don't say that, you
never know no, I'm really cool with I just don't
have the desire. What I ask God for is to
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be able to take care of my family. You know,
I want to be to take care of my family.
And you know, now Michelle wants she wanted to travel
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
She want to go here, she want to go there.
I really don't.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I'm cool with Spirit Airlines. Well not no more because
they don't have a middle seat. But I'm cool with
just taking a quick little break, you know, watching Jade
be able to have what she needs when she needs.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It, and being a resource to y'all.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
And I'm in long winded and talking rambling, but that's
because podcast family, y'all like family too.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
We just talking like we want a big damn three
way calls.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
So support y'all, please continue to describe to the podcast.
Come to the training, guys, because that really is my
last career stop. It really is like it's truly just
about the training. That's it, nothing else but about the training.
Log onto the training. We'll have Michelle tap in from
time to time. She has a lot of experienced guys
run as a candidate. When we get done with the
(40:14):
five core trainings, are going to start rolling out the
webinars when bring Michelle on to talk about how she
was successful in sixty days, how you can make an
impact in sixty days on a campaign.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
A lot of good stuff that we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
We're gonna have Marcello's as a guest speaker on how
he refused to set up the step and repeat.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Learn about work in advance. I'm learning and hope he
never had to set it up beginning. You just set
it up the first time, So I'm learning like I
got an excellent team. I appreciate y'all. Thank you Michelle
for joining us for this podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You know, I always love having you on the tap in,
but we really need to have you back because I
really want to talk about the races.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I want to talk about the money.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I want to talk about We just ended up going
in another direction, but that's the beauty about podcast. Talk
about with the LF I want to talk about and
shout out to the person in the commentsary, I'm glad
we getting back to the news, back to the original family.
Wait a minute, I decide what we talk about on
this podcast. So whoever said that lit up welcome home.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I sit up here for forty five minutes and talk
about everything but the news, all right, could have found
I'm the founder beginning in the end, it's gonna be
what I want to talk about. And sometimes we don't
want to talk about the news, we want to talk
about something else. So that's the beauty of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Shy'all shout out to Charlemagne and God and made a
debating We're gonna definitely keep this going, so appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Pase pease.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
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Speaker 1 (42:11):
Mm HM
Yet to ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Real, let's just keep it real, straight shot with no chasing.
I'm gonna get a little bit ruptured. I'm here for it.
Those who really believed in the American process, all of
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out here in the Building, another episode of straight Shot,
(00:30):
No Chaser. Excited, uh, because I always excited to have Marcellus,
who'll be working so hard, like he say, just so
that Marcella's but I get to have my baby big
sister because she ain't like she twelve, but my baby sister,
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Michelle Wadley in the building. I told her to come
come on and chop it up with us, and so
she's I'm honored that she decided to take some time,
you know, the kind of choplo women by politics.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So hello Michelle and Marcellus.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hello, I don't know how you. I don't know what
to feel about that being honored and that is that
a set up for the downfall?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Here came up have your presence.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Later she fluffed me before she asks me, and it's okay,
I'm gonna happen to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Damn, where's the trust? I can't even honor.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
This is experience. I got experience. I just got experience.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Experience. That's right now.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm abouing to be honorable and respectful. But okay, final
lyt's get to a da.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Money.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You failed, but I'm here for it. Effort.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, I brought Michelle long because those who don't know
Michelle and I, I've been trying to get rid of
her for now.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Over ten years.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And we met on the Bernie Sanders campaign, and for real,
y'all really been trying to.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Get rid of Michelle.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Like, for real, I ain't going nowhere. I'm like baby's kids,
I don't die, I multiply, I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Not going No, don't coll grimlin. I really I told
her to begin. I don't do new friends. I don't
just let's just do the campaign.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Let's just move for it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She insisted, stay consistent, and so she just really became
a very very important person in my life for real.
So we lived together on the Bernie Sanders campaign. We
met each other right out the gate, you know, like
for the first time. I'm just like, if you go
to college or go to the military, we met up, like, hey,
we're gonna be living together, you know, pick me up
at the airport, and uh, we've been just rocking ever since.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And so you fag when you.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Mean like y'all roommate it for real?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
When we worked on the African American Outreach team for
Bernie Sanders, Bernard as I don't know, I'd.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Like to call him.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
In twenty fifteen, when nobody knew who Bernard was. I
will never forget this of the story forever, because when
my ex husband dropped me out at the airport, he
was like, seem like you just wasting your time. Now
who you say you want to work with? I was like,
you know, Bernie Sanders, the one with the gray hair,
the one that like that's literally.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
How we would have to introduce in the people people
didn't know, that's right. We literally be like, you know,
the old man, the guy that dah dah dah. You
know Michelle be on Snapchat or Instagram going live every
day and saying, yeah, I'm up from the Bernard or
like she said, the Bernie campaign, and they'd be like,
who's Bernie and she would have to say, yeah, you know,
the older guy, da da Da. So we were the
(03:41):
original Olg's, negro OG's or the Bernie Sanders campaign on
the national level that many people you know, volunteered on
the local level all that, but our campaign was about
ten of us.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I guess Michelle and I were only two women, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And they had us all meet up in Atlanta and
live in some airbnbs. So Michelle was my roommate and
she picked them up at the airport. So no, yeah,
we literally lived together. Like we would go be on
the road for like two three weeks at a time,
and then go back home for a week and then
come back. So at that time, one weekend I would
go see Jada with at that time, when was that
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ten years ago, so seven seven or eight at that time,
and then the following week I would go see my mom,
who was on chemo at that time.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Would cancer I talk about a lot. Yeah, So I
rotated at that time.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Actually when I got my iPhone for the first time,
because I want to be able to FaceTime you know,
my mom and Jada, and so Michelle and I lived
together over that time. So we would travel from place
to place. And this is why I talk to shit.
I do Marcella's like we literally would go to a
new city, nobody knowing nothing about who Bernie Sanders is,
(04:55):
nobody knowing nothing about whatever, and they say, hey, we
got three days to build up and our office, go
find a black people.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And when we say build up a office, I mean literally,
you know, like, okay, get office space. You know this
office space we're reporting to. How do we find black people?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Okay? Where are the churches that we need to go
meet with? Who call? Where are the barbershops were?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, like literally just drop down in a city
that you know nothing about and your job was to
do black outreach.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You want to chime in on that and explain something, Marcella,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, that's even if you got a day's notice, you'd
be on the road. I'd be on the road in
the middle afternoon, be told I had a flight to Colorado,
a flight to kids in the city, a flight to
New York, a flight toever And I was expected to
come in, like Tess said, we were expected to come
in and build up an entire operation in a matter
of you know, essentially ours who are the black elected officials,
(05:53):
who are the black community leaders?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And you got to figure that out on the fly.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So and for a candidate that, again that you described
as the old guy, you know that in this you know,
with the gray hair, like no one knew who he was.
And even if you explained what he stood for, a
lot of the progressive tenants that Bernard Stoff for were
not tenants that black people were for. And so you
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only not only had you did you have to introduce
the candidate, you had to explain his campaign platforms and
then explain why they would be beneficial to black folks.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And so.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Having TZ on that campaign, I would not have survived
that campaign without TZ. And when we met, it was
just something that clicked. I remember we were working with
doctor West. He asked us, said what way? He said,
how long y'all been friends? How long y'all known each other?
And I think we said a week. We had only
known each other for a week, And I remember it
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being surprised the week y'all I would have thought y'all
known each other for years. I mean, there was just
something about Tedz that resonated. We had a situation very
early on where you know, it was a crossroad for
me and she told me, Hey, this is what's gonna happen.
This is what you can expect. You know, choose your side,
and I can attribute to choosing the right side, which
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is let me go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
She'd being nice about it. I told her they're gonna
try to set you up and work against me.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's what I really told her about hours.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they're gonna try to set you up. They're gonna
try to get you to go against him. Michelle, She's like,
what are you talking about. I said, don't worry. You're
gonna see twenty four to forty hours. And that's exactly
what happened. And I just know that it has happened
every time. It's always happened in the military, on jobs
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But it always is.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They always try to figure out a way to get
the female against me. And Michelle decided to bet on
Tels and guess what she bet right? You know, ten
ten plus years later, she's being diplomatic, and she's more
diplomatic than me.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I want the people to know exactly what it is. Well,
let me ask you thou let me.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Say this one hold and think about that question. I
hold it. I want to piggyback on. Michelle said, not
only did people under it was more than even explaining
what progresses, what policies were beneficial black people, people that
know what progressive movement was. So that's why I'm not live.
When I was explaining about the progressive movement and why
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I take issue, we're not really take issue, but kind
of shut down people.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Who want to argue me back.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm telling you what it was like on the front
end of the movement itself. Now, people may have used
progressive many times before.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't know. I'm not a student of history in
that way.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
You know, I don't know if the word was used
back in nineteen sixty five, So don't nobody sent no email.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Progressive was first used in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm saying, in our era, you know, our generation, you know,
this movement of the Obama I'm counting from Obama to now.
The progressive movement came alive with Bernie Sanders. So everything
as far as what is a ressive, what is progressive
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policies and what you know, even the debate that exists today,
are you really a socialist?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Are you a progressive? What is the progressive movement?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
This massive popular which now is one of the most
popular senators in the country. This massive, you know storm
if you will, of just excitement around Bernie Sanders. We
were the only black people literally who were responsible for
that as far as black outreach was concerned.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I take credit even for the white stuff because we
all had to play a part in it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But particularly with black people and the surrogance that you
knew the first ones that started out Nina Turner, Killer,
Mike Sean King, King later in twenty twenty, but in
twenty sixteen, it really was just us and doctor West.
So what I'm telling y'all that I'm telling you what
it was like in the room at the beginning of
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this making these decisions on what is black outreach and
what should that look like and how much should be
invest I'm telling you what was going on, you know,
in those conversations that l on the on the onset right.
What was your question, Marcellis, Oh, I was just going
to ask, uh, what made.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I guess y'all can answer an individual with what made
j'all want to work on Bernie Senators campaign? I'll let
you go first.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Uh. For me, at the time, I was really looking
for the campaign experience and the opportunity to work on
a campaign at that level I had completed. I think
someone talked about one of your lives earlier tis the
Congressional Black caucas Blue Camp. I had done that work.
I had worked on campaigns at the local and state
level and was looking for an opportunity to advance my
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skill set. And I had actually tried to work on
various campaigns and found that my work with the Congressional
Black Caucus in that training provided an opportunity for me
to work on the Sanders campaign. I was I was
like Tenzo, had the same experience with people questioning why
would I go and do that. At the time, I
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was working for the Secretary of State and he was
running for US Senate, and so people would ask, you know,
why would you go work for this guy that nobody
knows instead of working for the guy that's running for
senate in your home state.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But I just felt.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
When I looked at the you know, the timeline and
the opportunity made more sense to get the presidential campaign experience.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
M gotcha.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
My as a real sympol I was Nina Turner, Senator
Nina Turner, then director of Communications, and I had been
for years and so when she left the Hillary campaign
as one of the women surrogans, not really visible, but
you know, one of the many. They had hundreds, and
she decided to go to the Bernie Sander campaign.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
She brought me with her. It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It was not because I gave I cared about Bernard
or that I was a socialist, because I was not.
I make this sentertorn. You know, you've heard her tell
this story publicly Marcella's you know, when I went in
to what was a guest allegedly an interview and they
were like, well, you know, you got to support Bernie,
and I was like, I'm here for Nina, So that
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doesn't work for you. I don't know to tell you.
And even Nina said, she says she's never seen anybody
do that. She talks about this live. She's like, I've never.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Seen a figure. Oh you got to get the job.
You got to say. I said, I don't do that.
I don't just say whatever to get the job. Because
you said I don't give a damn about the job
job because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And let's also want I want to be very clear
why that was so strange to her, because I was
the only mother on that campaign. Female wise, I think
a couple of guys may have had some kids. I'm
not sure, but it's from what I can remember, I
was the only parent and I just put it I
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did not have a job. I just put it in
an application at Kroger for real, you know, in my one.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
But I just moved to Houston.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The job didn't work out. I said, like I say
every year, I'm done with this. I'm getting out of this.
It's like something gonna break, something gonna break. And I
was getting ready to start sacking groceries for real, and
Nina Turners like, oh, I just got this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You know, should I go to the Bernie Sands campaign.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I've always been in advisit of her on what she
should and shouldn't I do, and always just worked with
her on whatever project she had, so she brought me along.
So she was thinking, like most humans, you don't say
whatever to get the job.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
At least you know.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Get the job, you need the job. You literally have
a seven year old and a mama died with cancer.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Get the job. This is again, this is not bragging.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's just making the distinction, Michelle, between me and them,
As you know I do all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Even when the pressure was on.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Even when it made total sense to just say whatever
to get the job, I was not gonna do that.
I was totally okay with Ubrin. I was totally okay
with sacking groceries. It need be because I knew that
there was going to become a time well, my loyalty
would be tested. And I am a very loyal person.
Anybody knows me knows I am very loyal, yep. And
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that is one thing I do not compromise as my loyalty.
And that time did come several times on the campaign,
several several times, even when I have my fall out
with Bernie. Never ever would I go against Nina, you
know what I mean. No matter what, we can have our.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Fallouts, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I know that loyalty is going to knock at
the door at some point, and what are you going
to choose? So why would I even set myself up
to be in a situation when I know that more
than likely I'm not going to choose the direction you
want me to go in. So let's just save everybody
in trouble and let me just tell you the truth
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from the outset, yep, from the now set. And that's just
something you don't see a lot of people do. It's
not as I say that again, not to brag, but
to show you what it looks like Michelle not do
this work. We're doing this work over ten years together.
We're always pushing each other. It's not to say you
should do this. You know Michelle, like she said, it
was a great opportunity. She's an awesome operative. I went
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to Congressional Black Caucus too, But again I didn't go
to the Congressional Black caucas because I was working on
somebody's campaign. Our experience is very different. She was working
on somebody's campaign. They sent her to that. Somebody believe
in her. I just just happened to go Corns and
Brown was like, you should go. I like the way
you argue with DoD online. I've never worked for her
or anybody else. Most people the want you that training
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ourselves with people that worked on campaigns, you know at
that level or knew somebody. I got in that by accident,
which is why I cried the whole time with shoes
with holes at the bottom of my shoes. So everything
that I've been in or thrown in has been by
divine order, and that's why I can stand on it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The way I do.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know what I mean, I know that if you
have me here for this reason, it's for this reason,
and I truly trust him. I truly believe that what
for me is for me.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I truly believe it. It's not up to man, truly do.
But it doesn't minimize.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Michelle's calling or what God has for her.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's one of the things we talk about all
the time.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
We need people to make the choice, the career choice,
or the opera choice, you know, or the whatever it is.
We need people to know, let's a push the lot.
It is all about right, that's right. Let my experience
make you question yours, know yours, and stand in that
and know that neither one of us.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Are minimizing our experience.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Where we gotta know where we're adding this because the
sacrifices that I make, I need Michelle. Somebody gotta have
a damn job. We can't all crash out on the
job like Marcella's does on a.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Like nobody got to have a job around it, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like for real, well what I've heard, because you are
the big sister I never knew I needed and want
it so bad, which is why I bet on Test
and I went about to let you go after that campaign.
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But what I've learned in watching you is for all
of the greatness that you exude and being convicted and
loyal and all the things that you do, there's a
price that comes with that, and that is what you
have to be willing to pay if we're gonna walk
that walk. And that's why you have to be confident
in who you are, how you move, and what your
role is, because while it all looks good on.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The surface, there's there's a price to be paid for.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
How Test moves. And am I gonna be willing to
pay that price? And nine times out of tendant to know,
but there's a price to be paid for keeping a.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Job, you know, just right right right?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We just all want to know what when we when
we get all of our items at the CBS, we
just want to know what the cost is.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And my job is to show you what the cost
is so that way when they print out all the receipts,
you're not confused. Yes, you're not confused, you know. And
also you going with that man, you know when you
go to CB ooh, this is a good one. Speak
to me God, when you go to CBS and you
purchase those items, and now I'm getting ready top preciatey'all
for a moment.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We ready, girl.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
When you go to those when you go to CBS
and you get the doctor Pepper, you get whatever it
is you get. You notice that the receipts they give
you back may not always necessarily be for more doctor Pepper.
It's something else that is for you. And so if
we operate like that, if we think about the receipt
holder of all receipts, if we think about God and
our purpose, everything that I'm bringing to the counter, everything
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that I thought I need, he knows that there's something
else that I need that I wasn't thinking about.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Ooh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He knows that when I scan that item and when
I say this is what I need, that he also
says there's something on the back end. Like you just
heard Michelle the big Sister. I never know I had
Michelle got eight brothers and sisters. So when you went
and scanned it, okay, I'm going for this, I got
something else on the back end. I know you thought
you needed a doctor Pepper, but you actually need another sister, Teslin.
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I know you a only child and you really really
don't want those sisters. But I'm gonna give you one anyway.
I'm gonna give you somebody to pour into that you
can actually see, that you can see it blossom, that
you can see because a lot of the work that
you do, Tesla, that you ain't gonna see. You're not
gonna see the fruit that bears that comes from the tree.
So I'm gonna give you somebody that you can actually
pour into and actually bear witness to what God has
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called you to do. So when we think about the
receipts and we think about that, we think about he
gives us all the things that we need and all
the things we didn't know we need, and he still
gives us a cuepop for more, Doctor Pepper, What does
that mean, Marcellus.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That means He's gonna bless you tenfold. So even for
the things that you bring him your gift, I am
giving you my gift. I'm giving you all I know
how to do. This is all I have that I'm
bringing to the King. That song when it say take
you to the King I played at my mother's funeral.
I've given you all I have to bring.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
If you visualize that at the CVS and you visualize
even when you know, you go in the store and
you don't have the basket, basket, can't find no basket.
So you're just putting it all in your hand. So
you need a little bit of this and a little
bit of that, and you think about that, and you
think about how God operates in your life.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm giving you all I have to breathe. I don't
have room for it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
But the Bible says I'll give you room enough to
receive then and more some. All he's asked me to do,
Marcella's is just scan it and put it on the table.
Put with your gift on the table. That's what push
the line is all about. Put what you have available
to him and watch him give you tenfold and give
you more than what you did.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And I know you need.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And that's why the words say I'll give you more
than you have room enough to receive. But we must
be willing to go in the store. We must be
willing to go through the sacrifice. We must be willing
to go out by out. We must be willing to
stand in the long line.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's what Michelle is talking about the consequences that come
with this. We must be willing to do it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You must be willing to hold all oh you can
hold until your arms are tired, and when your arms
are tired, like what Moses talks about when Aron lifted
up Moses's arms and said, when your arms are tired,
I will lift them up for you. All of these
things are important if we understand our purpose and in
our role. It's not for me to turn and look
at Michelle's basket and say why you got that and
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why I don't have this, and tell them you got
that gift, and why God didn't give me this.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I'm Michelle, you got that gift. Why didn't she get
a Michelle, I've been working on that for ten years
because it was meant for you to have that. He
gave you what you had, and my role, my calling, I.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Believe what God has called me to do, is to
teach you how to look in your own basket and
know that everything you have in front of you is worthy,
it's worthy, and it's important.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And if it's ten people behind you in the line
that said it ain't.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Worth it, it's ten more of me right in front of you,
saying gone and swipe that thing. Look ahead the Bible,
say look forward to when that's coming my help. Don't
worry about what the enemy saying behind you, Harry up,
what's taking us so long?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Why she's scanning so long? What's taking up? Damn?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
She got the line held up. Don't worry about that.
Marcella's look ahead, m I sure be preaching, y'all girl.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay, what's his name?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The Wayne?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
What what your producer?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
He did some handclouds on that.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't turn this Wednesday, not
Bible study. Yeah, well I'm here for it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
When God give me those messages, especially when you can visualize.
So as I was telling the story, I hope you
were visualizing it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Everybody can know what it means to go in the store,
you know, and the crab things last minute things you
didn't that you forgot to get. Walk at the store
all day. I forgot to get this, forgot to get that.
He knows everything, and we just have to trust him.
And it's hard to trust when you don't know the
price of it.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's hard to trust if I don't know if I'm
aawipe my credit card. Do I have enough on the
balance that's it?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Is there something else in me? Because I don't think
I have nothing left right now. You're going through something
in your life with the people that can hear me
with sound of my voice, going through something that you
just literally don't know if you have something that. Is
there anything left on the credit card that can Can I.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hold something else? Yes? Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
People say, well, he give you something, you know, they
always say, he don't give you more than you can
bear it. No, because there's a lot of people that
come in suicide, so a lot of people that can't
bear it, so a lot of people that overdraft. We
can't just assume that somebody can bear it. No, Sometime
I just can't bear it. Sometime I need another credit line,
that's right. Sometimes I need a little bit of extra
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little overdraft protection. See a little bit of overdraft protection.
Come on now, and this is where you be a relationship.
But I'm also very careful with who I build relationship with.
And that's why when I tell them shell, no, everybody
don't just get to come in my life. That overdraft
protection I need is real. You got access to breaking
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the bank. It's one thing to be in the comments
sation another when you in my life. Well, now I'm
vulnerable to you. So show up how I need you
to show up. And it may not be what I
find with people with me, they think you don't need
to show up in the way you think you need
to show up with me. Show up in the way
that I need you to show up. And it may
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not be what you think.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It may not be money, it may not be a word,
it may not be whatever. It just might be testing
I'm here. However, you need me to show up, that's it.
Michelle and I worked on that a lot because she
would be like, well, I want to be even and
give you what your girl. You can't give me what
I give you. And that's why I'm the big sister.
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It's gonna be a train wreck.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And why they have that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Same conversation with my sister. Believe me, just a few
months ago and I was having I was saying, ooh my,
this is what Tess was talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, like, what's your mean? And we struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Even with men especial men in my life, they can't
the gift the feminine. You know, the male female interrupts
a lot of times the gifts. Yes, God is operating
in me, not gender, you know what I mean. He's operating.
He sent you a comforter. But because of the male
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gender role, you can't get past you know what I mean.
Sometime they can't get passed. No, he just sent you
a comfort. I know it's disturbing for me to be
right about a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's disturbing to me. I don't want to be right.
I'm not right about everything.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But there is something about prophecy, gift of prophecy and
discernment and saying things and calling things out. And that's
why when I y'all know, I share stuff with you
all the time, I told you all this was gonna happen.
I told y'all it's not because I'm needing somebody to
help me keep score. It's because I want you to
know that when when you're tuned in and you're listening
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to God and have more here can show you certain things.
If you tap in right, you don't have to go
along to get along.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
That's right, and it's it's again, it's rare to see
that in people, to see people move that way, and
I think that's what either draws people to you or
becomes a challenge. It's one thing to say I'm loyal.
It's another to turn down a job when you need
a job to show that you're loyal, like to show
what that actually looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Right, And if we just continue to trust you know,
I'll say this before we close out. I was gonna
talk about but this was so good, so I know
to have you on, I just let the spirit move.
I want to talk about progressives and outreach and all
that kind of stuff, but it just kind of goes
back to trusting him. You know. I went viral last
week and whatever that means to go viral, but the
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Shade Room definitely you would consider viral.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, So look, let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And it's so interesting because I did not want to
do that hit that day, as you know, and Marcella's
you know, because y'all work with me, Box called me
all the time and I'd just be like, hell whatever, yep,
And this one particular day, I was, honestly, and I
probably still got them the text. I was like, oh
hold up, wait a minute, my schedule got overbooked. It
really didn't get over booked. PoTA did being and I
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was gonna put because she was like and as y'all know,
they don't give me the topics per se. You know,
they'd be like, oh, can you come on to night? Yep,
I'm in whatever city. Then they tell me what for?
They just won me on and then I was like,
oh what I said. I was like, I don't feel
like gonna talk about that. I'm so tired talking about this.
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And then I was like, well, let me go. And
I just wanted to move that day and I said, well,
let me just go on and go do it. But
it's just it's always just to show like when you're
just sobedient and just do what you're supposed to do.
One of the reasons that Fox has been so exhausting
to do is because there has not been support. And
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you know this Frochelle and yeah, so you definitely know this.
And it's never been about the support because if it
wasn't would have stopped a long time ago. Because there
hasn't been any support, meaning the mass is overall like
some people know I do it, but really people don't.
Outside of Charlemagne killing Mike even being crumb don't share
my Fox commentary. But outside of that, no, people don't know,
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like consistent, because you gotta realize because even though y'all
be thinking everybody know on Marsett, they don't know. No,
everybody dos on Marset. They don't know a NONPARTI sand me,
no Marcella's people. People have to see things like over
and over and over and over and over in the algorithms.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You know. It's like I can post something about the
training and somebody said, oh, I never said, even though
I posted ten times a day.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Everybody don't know what I do with Fox. Even everybody
everybody follows me don't know. They don't know I'm a revoked.
They know I've been on the repens CAUP, they don't know.
It takes a lot to get that out. So it's
never been a massive amount of support. In fact, it's
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been ostracized. I've been canceled, I've lost contracts as a result. Yes,
I'll never forget. Yeah, and that's a fact. Jord Reed
called me when I went on Fox and said I
can't believe you over there, And I probably still got
the text because I keep my texts fever. But when
she said I can't leave you over there with Fox.
Please don't tell me over there talking to them. Worst
career decision you made, da da and called me on
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the phone to tell me, and I was like, but
I'm over here speaking black people.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Da da da da. It don't matter.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You don't need to get in bed with them, Da
da da. So to have her be the one to
share it, which is what the Shade Room ultimately shared.
Her company just supposed to show you, Michelle, because you
saw this in real time that when you say, consistent
on what it is you're supposed to do, because it
ain't about Jorge read if somebody came in, it's about
God showing up to say she wasn't my enemy, but
I'm just using the enemy to be your footstool. That
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even those who were against what you were doing, and
you know I'm Michelle. My favorite scripture Revelations three twelve,
where I say.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
They will know it was you.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was me the whole time I put the crown.
It was me all alone. Yes, you will never ignore it.
It's those moments. And Joey may not even remember her
doing that. I think she do, and I think that
was her way of being supportive.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I don't know. I'm grateful that she did, not because
of the Shade Room, but just to show, like a
Michelle's somebody in my life like them, I said, you
know the close people that follow me or you don't
know my work, just to show y'all that God really
do got it. Yes, he really got it. He really do.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And you know, I don't give a shit about being popular.
I don't care about that, y'all know. Hey, if it
ain't about training, I ain't with it.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yep, I don't care about none of this.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
But every now and then he liked to show up
to say, yeah, I got it, I got you just
know I am the ultimate Shade Room.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, I am the one.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So those who didn't support, even if the reasons were
not to benefit me, because you gotta know that too,
it wasn't it does. I don't know her genuine reason.
It could be they just like talking about Fox News.
I know, Shade Room just wanted to show joy talking
shit about Fox you know, like, I'm not confused. Never
drink your on kool aid, don't get confused. So that's
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where a lot of people crash out. They think it
becomes about them. However, it got manipulated for it to happen.
Not my concern. My concern is letting those of you
that rock with me know that in the end and
at the end of the day, stay consistent on who
you are. Continue to do with God's call you dude,
even people tell you it don't make no sense on.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
This Da da da da da. Continue to be consistent
because now all of a sudden, these same people said
never go to Fox, we don't need to.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
They're now realizing you cannot continue to talk to your
own choir.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And think you're gonna get anything accomplished.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
That's it, Like you said, be obedient. That being obedient
is is like you said, Keith, and your obedient consistent
do what you're supposed to do. God shows up.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
He does, and he and with me, and he has
to show up for me, like real bold like that, y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, because I don't have.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I do have people that I admire, but I don't
have like a big sister like Michelle got me.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Is like I don't have a I do have peers, you.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Know, I talk to Michelle, workshop stuff out, best friend, prayer.
You know, I got peers, but I don't necessarily have
a go to.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I don't have a teslum from Tesslim right.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So, and I walk in soul divine order in some
things because I do things that most people don't, I
have to have a different I gotta have the burning
bush like literally, you know what I mean, Like I
gotta like if I'm like man Marcelle's I'm done. It's
great hear marce Marcela saying no, God, I got something
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mess for you, But I.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Gotta it don't work like that.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It gotta be like that's good to hear, but I
gotta something gotta line up, you know what I mean,
Like he gotta be you gotta make.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It real clear.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Because whatever it is he has for me to endure
requires that level of confidence. Like Michelle said, I can't
waiver on it. I can't question. Was Michelle Wright about
this or was marcell'es right back there?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
He has to give me a whole armor, you know,
of clarity on how I'm moving. I'll say this before
I go, And Michelle, you should watch this, you know,
Barbara Watchers great documentary on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Oh yeah, that's on my watch list.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, you always gonna watch list. But you never watch it.
You know you.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Got word some Marceill, well, at least myself, don't lie
about it. He said he ain't watching it, watching it,
it ain't shame about it. And just as another one,
mind that Marcello's has never watched the color purpose.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Of watch It just takes me a while.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
But it is on my watch list.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Gary, you got about fifty things. You always those on
my watch list. But Oprah was talking about it was
one of those. I watched it not to get a spoiler,
but she was saying she knew she could not be both.
She could not be a good mother and be Oprah.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And she's right.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Contrary to Marcellis's belief, being a parent is more than
getting a tax refund y'all get them refunds, though what
don't And I don't show you what I got faith
being a parent, reponds one you around.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So network is amazing. Look an text the Dutchess.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
But we ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We ain't gonna make up get text. You know somebody
don't really somebody.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Marcella's heard over that it's a lot of parents behind
this up, behind.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
These sex rep.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So I watched that and I said, Wow, it makes
total sense. And as I'm starting my next chapter in
life older, I do not regret being a mom. And
I felt even prouder Michelle, because I was like, I
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really made the sacrifice, you know what I mean, Like
I really Barbara Watcher's daughter, you know, did drugs really
really bad and she was never home and ran away
and you know she's Barbara Walters, you know, two different
city and she was more motivated to be Barbara Watchers.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I'm just so grateful I never got that, bug.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I really felt good, like, wow, I never because you know, Michelle,
I'm like that for real, like I really don't give
a shit, Like no, you know, you really don't the money,
the fame or whatever. And I adore like white Lady
and all like Barbara walk like that's it, you know,
that's the pennacil of that. But I still don't. I
never I feel like, Okay, if I'm gonna be Barbara Walters,
(36:42):
it's gonna have to be now in this big age,
you know. And so watching that and watching how she
started the view at sixty, I left like, Okay, if
there is something else, and I don't think it's in
this television space. I really really enjoyed training. I felt
really good about doing.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Jada was worth every moment. I am so glad that
I did not have. I never Marcella's one time, and
that was one point why I had her older. Never
at one time felt she was in the way or
stopping me for something. I always know that I would
(37:22):
do the best that I absolutely could do, you know,
with the cars I was dealt with, and once she
went to college, I know, you know, Okay, there's an
opportunity to do something different, even at this big age.
And I'm just I just feel really good about that.
So God just didn't. He didn't He took away the
desire for material things, the desire for advancement, career advancement.
(37:46):
But I don't doubt people that have that, you know, Like,
I think it's great. I want to encourage you to
ge everywhere. And I think I'm pretty damn ambitious myself,
to be honest.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
But I would think, so, yeah, look all the things
that you've done yet that screams ambition.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
It's what I would say that if I was single,
if I didn't have a kid, I'd be stomping a
mud hole in y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Ass. That's for sure that I know.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I think this is where we start to break up.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Sorry, yeah, can I know, but I but I am
very grateful, you know, to not even feeling like now
I got to compare myself to you know, by maybe
if I didn't have a kid, I did it, you
know like that.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's been the own blessing to watch Jada and her
little Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
This has been real fun this last sixty days, like
turning into this little woman overnight. I'm talking to about
the club and oh wow, who this dad?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
And I'm like, oh am I really talking about the club.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
And you know, it's just just a lot, but it's exciting.
It's bittersweets, kind of sad, but it's also exciting because
I would get.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
To mold a little young you know, a young adult.
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That's so it's pretty cool in law school and Michelle's
been a great study partner with me with that, pushing
Michelle to go get to go into law school as well.
So guys, I'm just excited about where I am. I
don't think I'll ever be wealthy, wealthy rich, and I'm
totally okay with it. People say, don't say that, you
never know no, I'm really cool with I just don't
have the desire. What I ask God for is to
(39:19):
be able to take care of my family. You know,
I want to be to take care of my family.
And you know, now Michelle wants she wanted to travel
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
She want to go here, she want to go there.
I really don't.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I'm cool with Spirit Airlines. Well not no more because
they don't have a middle seat. But I'm cool with
just taking a quick little break, you know, watching Jade
be able to have what she needs when she needs.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It, and being a resource to y'all.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
And I'm in long winded and talking rambling, but that's
because podcast family, y'all like family too.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
We just talking like we want a big damn three
way calls.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
So support y'all, please continue to describe to the podcast.
Come to the training, guys, because that really is my
last career stop. It really is like it's truly just
about the training. That's it, nothing else but about the training.
Log onto the training. We'll have Michelle tap in from
time to time. She has a lot of experienced guys
run as a candidate. When we get done with the
(40:14):
five core trainings, are going to start rolling out the
webinars when bring Michelle on to talk about how she
was successful in sixty days, how you can make an
impact in sixty days on a campaign.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
A lot of good stuff that we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
We're gonna have Marcello's as a guest speaker on how
he refused to set up the step and repeat.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Learn about work in advance. I'm learning and hope he
never had to set it up beginning. You just set
it up the first time, So I'm learning like I
got an excellent team. I appreciate y'all. Thank you Michelle
for joining us for this podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You know, I always love having you on the tap in,
but we really need to have you back because I
really want to talk about the races.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I want to talk about the money.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I want to talk about We just ended up going
in another direction, but that's the beauty about podcast. Talk
about with the LF I want to talk about and
shout out to the person in the commentsary, I'm glad
we getting back to the news, back to the original family.
Wait a minute, I decide what we talk about on
this podcast. So whoever said that lit up welcome home.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I sit up here for forty five minutes and talk
about everything but the news, all right, could have found
I'm the founder beginning in the end, it's gonna be
what I want to talk about. And sometimes we don't
want to talk about the news, we want to talk
about something else. So that's the beauty of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Shy'all shout out to Charlemagne and God and made a
debating We're gonna definitely keep this going, so appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Pase pease.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
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Speaker 1 (42:11):
Mm HM
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