June 9, 2025 • 31 mins
Karine Jean-Pierre, who served as White House press secretary for Joe Biden, has left the Democratic party to become an independent, according to the publisher of her forthcoming book.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Don't want to ask your question real.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's just keep it real, straight shot with no chasing.
I'm gonna get a little bit ruptured.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
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us street shot, no chase with your girl Tesslim figure
out on the Black Effect podcast networking was telling everybody,
this is Tesslim figure Out, straight shot, no chase on
the Black Effect podcast network. Always shut out and love
to Black Effect for making this possible for me and
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so many creators. We had a post last week where
Black Effect as a whole has reached over a billion
streams collectively a billion streams.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Sorry, hey man, that is just really really good news.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
When Charlotmage started the Black Effect, people said, oh, y'n't
know what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh you don't own it?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh this day and they was, they said they was
gonna start they own and we ain't heard from since.
So apparently Charlottae know what he was doing by not
trying to put all the ownership, meaning all of the
pressure on him, by actually partnering with our Heart, the
largest audio platform in the world, it looks like that
was a great idea. It looks like it made sense
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because by not putting you know, which is what I talked.
By the way in my training, you know the three
things I tell you how to do save, shack and
secure and shaq I mean not shack Stack, you know,
I said shack and so stack is merging your resources
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together business companies, ideas partnerships. And that's what he was
able to do and it's paid off.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Really, really well.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And just want to give a shout out to him
because without that, it wouldn't make space for people like me.
Because people like me, if I just had to sell
advertisement for what I do, there would be no show.
One advertising gonna get behind what I'm talking about. You know,
it's too risky. Two we don't get a million streams
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of episode because we're not talking about the d D
trout every day or who dated who are pop culture
or real housewives and all that. So the news and
information is always going to be the ugly step child
of anything, but.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It is necessary and I'm proud to be a part
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And without having those entertainment platform you know it was
entertainment podcasts, I wouldn't be able to survive. And I
remember they were talking about it. I don't know they're
still gonna do that, but they were doing one just
on politics, you know, like a political black effect of sorts,
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, keep me right where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'd rather be on the podcast with horrible decisions and
drink chaps and you know, all of the you know,
the popular pop culture stuff, because I know that if
I'm a part of what they're doing and they can
pick up the slack on what the news is not
going to do. That's just the reality of Marcella's I know,
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people don't want to hear it. Oh man, I can't believe,
you know, you always at Shahouoh, I can't believe. But look,
Martella stays shock y'all. You know, look at what's happening
in every news room in the country. You know, seeing
INN two three hundred people. You know, let go MSNBC
two hundred people. Everybody only one thriving is Fox.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Everything else writers traditional news that's out the window now.
Even getting online, they needs you to pay a description.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's how the wind.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know, only so many things are free other that, Like, guys,
it's just changing.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's too question. Why do you think.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Why you think Fox is s aurviving better than the
other networks.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I talk about that all the time and talked about
it on one of our other episodes.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
They have a niche market, a niche market.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
They've been able to carve out a niche of a
need that was not being met, which was conservative, a
conservative POV point of view, and they've been able to
master that to hook them in in an entertainment way.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And glad you asked a question. It's a whole documentary
on it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You should watch it, and a fiction movie about it
that really shows it's a lot. It's fact based over
Roger els, but really shows like what Fox, how it
got started, and the pr the entertaining it was supposed
to be, you know, all facts, no bias. We know
that's not the case, but they have been able to
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if you look at the majority of people in America
are center and left, if you just take that assumption,
but I'm able to pull out just enough conservatives that
feel they have no other place to go, no competition really,
and have them plug in to me all day, whether
it's Fox News Online, if it's Fox Nation on demand,
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if it's Fox on the that work and then in addition
of that, not only that while their hosts of the
highest paid in the industry, they also support their commentators
and hosts. They buy their books. I'll never forget when
a woman in the airport because she recognized them being
on Fox. It's like, you know, you really, you really
wed like you if you really should you know, be
a commentator, be on more. And she whispered, we take
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care of our Fox people, you know, like buying books
and all this stuff. Best seller right out the gate.
You know, they make sure you know, I always talk
about the digital discipline. Right conservatives, right wing, they make sure.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That they keep their.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Messages out there, have the digital discipline. They in control
of that. And they dominate the AM stations. You know,
we sit by and say, don't nobody listen to radio?
Well they do, they do, We'll talk radio. So they dominated.
So if I got ten million people that don't have
anywhere else to go, and you create a space and
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I'm make you want to come back over and over
because I'm telling anything I want to say, we always
on top. In addition to that, they negotiated a hell
of a deal, which means that and I'll use it
in very basic terms basic cable. You know, let's just
say you pay for your basic cable, and all y'all say,
don't nobody watch ca Well, even if you stream direct tv,
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you know, even if you stream it, it's still money
is still going to that, you guys. So even if
you're paying through AT and T, you know, to watch
MSNBC or CNN on direct TV with AT and T,
that's still cable. Just because it's not physically plugged into
a wall does not mean, you know, go let people
say all nobody watched cable with if you watch CNN
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or any you know on the guide, you know, with
those all those channels or whatever, that's still you know,
a premium you're paying for. And Fox negotiated the best
deal at compared to MSNBC and CNN. So even if
you don't like Fox, by you having that basic package
or whatever it is they negotiate, they get two three
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that off the top period. So they negotiated a better
deal than MSNBC and CNN, which tends to lean towards
only if you subscribe to them that type of whatever
different stuff. I don't want to misquote anything, but they
negotiated a better return and they have a niche market.
Maybe I was just telling you we're just talking about this,
or I'll talk about it all the time. My goal,
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like with this is a niche market. It doesn't have
to be everybody. That's why and what In the training
we say what it's not about me, it's not about we,
it's about what we need. That same concept, a niche market. Guys,
if you're out there listening, you can be a millionaire
with a niche market.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You could be. Let's use Tyler Perry for an example.
Tyler Perry.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And before I get into that, let me just remind
y'all the training. Let me make sure I pick up
where I left off the training guys, June fourteenth, first
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nowhereas you can go back and watch the replay. Nowhere
is it all fifty bucks right now? We have a contract,
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a coupon ten dollars off just put in. Let's go
all right with that said Tyler Perry, y'all love talking
about the wigs. Y'all love saying we see it a storyline.
Y'all love saying you know why Tyler perrykeet doing that.
Tyler Peaire don't care about what y'all saying. He has
a niche market, a niche market, and church going folks
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or whoever that just love the Tyler Peary brand that
will continue to keep watching the same story over and
over and over if need be, because they have bought
in to the Tyler pair brand. Oprah did the same thing.
They bought in to the Oprah brand. For those who
remember on the nineties and coming up in the nineties,
if Oprah said that was the shoe, that was the shoe.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
If Oprah said this is on my book club list,
that was the book.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's how a lot of the Banzett got born out
of that doctor field, out of that. When people buy
into the brand, that's it, and you don't need everybody.
And so right now where stuff is so competitive with
millions and millions and means of people, you don't need
to try to you know, people's competition. They think I
got to be as big as Beyonce to be successful. No,
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everybody may not know you, but just have your niche market,
focus on your niche. Same thing with politics, same thing
applies talk to my voter.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's why Trump is successful.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Whether y'all like it or not, he ain't successful because
he don't do such and such.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Y'all don't hear. Y'all literally don't hear what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Successful means he gets his people to get out and
vote him hell.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And high water, and he do.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And we see that with the last election because Republicans
flipped the switch.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And came out of early voted like never before.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They early voted, and they voted day up, where Democrats
always focus on early voting.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And after that, theay tired. They don't want to go
no more. Like what you said about school, I did enough,
I did. I need a break.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
They don't take no breaks. Marcelle's dance is they don't
take no break.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
They keep moving.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And when you're able to do that, they have the
digital discipline. They trolled all day long. They shut it
down all day long. They keep their narrative going all long.
They keep it going, keep it going, keep it going,
keep it going. They bully all day long. That is
why they're able to keep their people engaged.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And it works. It works.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's not the approach of the well people should have
looked it up. Well they should have known, well they did?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know? Well, well they it's basic civics. Oh well
you just voting to get shown interest doesn't work. Democrats
can't keep up.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
They can't keep up with this error of basically an influencer,
a live ig, live president that puts everything live every day.
Everything's a media skeptical, a show, shit show, all of it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
But it keeps its people engaged.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, because I was like to say, even when.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
As I find myself and on I'm watching Fox News
and I'm like, damn, this network is pretty good though,
because they get down and dirt. They get down in dirt.
I'd like seeing then there to me, in my opinion,
seeing it is a little bit more relax, a little
bit more calm. But Box they don't care. They get
real down in dirt right there.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
They get down to Abby Phillips and her show been
kind of turned up a little bit later on cn NBL.
They don't care. They don't care about how you feel.
They're rough, which is why they love me because I'm
rough too. But speaking of ship shows, just a quick
weekly recap of some stories on last week. As y'all
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may have heard by now Trump and Elon are breaking
up or we don't know what they're going through. But
Trump said that I'll just read the quick recap. President
Trump said he was surprised as former advisor Elon Musk
is scorching the Republican Megabill, advancing most of Trump's biggest
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domestic policy priorities, but said he thought Musk was wrong
and conflict and conflicted in his criticism. Musk has been
actively attacking the megabill for days, calling it porkfield and
disgusting abomination. After Trump spoke, must posted on x that
without me, Trump would have lost the election, Ben would
control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
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to forty nine in the Senate. Now, of course, you
know people ran with that. We told you stole it.
We told you isn't that. I mean, y'all can run
whatever y'all want to. But Peuple's gonna win that election
without must N't know what Elin is talking about. And
for those of y'all who want to conspiracy, we told
y'all he he didn't rig nothing. Guys, the electoral college,
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y'all don't focus on it. A black woman was never
and I repeat never, and it's not a dis the
black woman. Y'all gotta stop projecting shit. You gotta stop
thinking because I'm saying a black woman can't get it
that I'm saying we're not worthy. Not the same shit
you You hear a personal attack on you, and that's
not what that is. It is this country has not
elected a black woman for governor as head of state.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Why would they make it ahead of the country.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Now for those of you saying, well, she ain't black,
well she damn show ain't white that we know said that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Somebody said that today. I was like, here we go there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, we know she ain't black or white that we
do thought right, and we know we ain't never had
no woman elected color as they say, definitely wasn't gonna
be elected, especially right and and not and not one
hundred days left. So that's just that.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You know so guys, only it's only been two people
that lost against Trump, two women, Hillary and Kamala. It's
gonna be one person, Yeah, that's right that beat Donald Trump.
And his name is Joseph R.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Biden. Yeah, and y'all to sit down.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I keep thinking about when she had an interview, man,
I was I felt so bad for when she her
and Charlottagne had their little the little interview and she
was like, I'm gonna win. Charlotte Mayne, I am. I'm
like you said. It was such confidence.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, well, you know, as they should. Charlma was leading
the charge. Uh Biden to have a seat, and Hairy
step up leading the charge.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She got slaughtered. I'm sorry it wasn't even close.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Seven swing states. All of somebody saying the crowd saying,
remember when.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
We did the live de bait, and I knew it
was over soon as I told you. I said, Well,
they said she lost in Georgie.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I knew it was over when.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't know why you was waiting till the end
when it was over. I told you it was over
when she got on the ballot. I told you was
over when she got on the ballot. It was over,
but you just to election like to get it.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You was late because I.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Know I'm talking about when we was remember it was
going over the results.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Let me say one man, I know what you're talking about. Oh,
I knew it was over when she lost George. I'm
let me say it more time for Marcella's and.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I know exactly what you're talking me.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I'm gonna say it the time when she got on
the ballot, I told you it was over. So we
never had a show going over the results. If you
never saw Georgia, I told you it was over, going
over your head when you said, oh, I knew it
was over when they said Georgia, I know what.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You keep talking about it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You keep read saying saying it different ways. I'm telling
you it was over the moment she got on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It was over.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You didn't have to wait on them to say she
just lost George. I told you she was gonna lose George.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You're missing what I'm telling you. If that was oh,
it's over, now I see it. No, it's been over.
You follow what I'm telling you. It's been over. It's
been over. It wasn't gonna happen. It was a setup.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's all. So much of us set up that.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Speaking of other news this week, Corinne John Pierre, Biden's
former press secretary, leaves the Democrat Party. Now she's not
going to be a Republican obviously, she's going to be independent,
and they've been tearing her hess up on social media
about this. Let me read the recap. Who served as
White House Press secretary for Joe Biden has left the
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Democrat parties to become an independent. According to the publisher
of forthcoming book, John Pierre, who served two Democratic white Houses,
is expected to detail the weeks that preceded Biden's momental
decision to withdraw from the race. The book, a title
title Independent, A Look Inside a Broken White House Outside
the Party Lines, promises a detailed recounting of the three
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weeks that led to Biden's abandonment, abandoning his bid for
a second term, and the betrayal by the Democratic they
led to the decision.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I'm looking forward to this. You know, people are upset
about it. I talked to some progressive that's easy for
how to do it? Now?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Don't nobody like Democrats disease And I had to tell
my friend it's it's not easy. This is not easy
for her. Whether it's a grip to sell a book
or not. Let's just break this down. She has every
reason to be a Democrat. She's at the top of
the fool chain. She worked for Obama, she worked for
Biden first black press secretary. She's at the top of
the food chain selling a book. She can make far
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more with speeches and all types of She don't have
to do this to leave the She could write a
book Marcellis without leaving the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Let's be logical.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
She could write a book Broken Heart, how they pushed
Biden off. She did not have to leave the Democrat
Party unless she fundamentally believes this ain't it because not
only does she leave, she don't have nowhere to go.
She's not like progressives who should go to the Green
Party and start their own. She literally don't have nowhere
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to go. So I don't say this is an easy
thing to walk away. And she piss it off. Everybody,
go look at the comments on shaven now at the time.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We don't need this.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You should have stayed. He helped you, and look how
you betrayed him. They want people to be more loyal
to the politician, yeah, than to principles. Yeah, which is
why we don't need parties. If that's what that's why
I can't be a part of any party. They want
you an oath like I agree with all these things.
That's not how it's made up. It's not how I'm
made up.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I'm glad you said.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I'm glad you said that because I was gonna ask
you about that because I spoke to someone that said
they ran for office, and they were saying that they
was they ran for lieutenant governor, and they were saying
they they was a part of the Democrat Party and
they were saying a minute that they they didn't agree
with the the what is it the LGBT agenda now
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that they they told, well, we can't rock with you
or whatever. And he said he, uh, he left the
Democratic Party. And he said, did nobody get behind his
his campaign anything?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because I run, if you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Have to add in behind you, you know, just because
they didn't endorse you, because they didn't see it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, he still ran. He just said he lost. Uh.
He said he ran twice.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Uh, he said he so you know, he could have
won without them supporting. So we need a new camp
just so you know. But you don't have to have
their support. But I understand what you're saying. It wasn't
like just because you gotta support Demo crapt part.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Don't mean you gonna win either. I just want to
make that point.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Okay, That's how I was gonna ask because I wanted
to know because I ain't know if he was telling you,
because I'm like, do they.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Really to tell you? You know, then they're not endorse.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It, even like what I'm gonna endorse, Yeah, Like why
would I endure if you're not in line with the
things that we as a party. Just let's just do
simple terms. Let's just do basic logic. If I'm getting
donations and say the Teslim Party agrees to reparations, black business, this, this, this,
and Marcel's is giving me twenty, it's like a union.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You're putting in money. This is the things that that
the union.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And so if we're gonna endorse somebody's represent the union,
want you to represent the things that we care about.
We're not gonna spend your money on a candidate that's
not in lives things you care about. We wish you
the best, but we don't have to get behind that.
We're not telling you not to run. We're not saying
you can't runs the Democrat. We're saying, if you want
us to get behind you, to push you to invest money,
because that's what that is, you know, invest the money
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endorsing you all that you need to be.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
On board with the things we care about. Why is
that confusing?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
No, I give you because I just thought, you know,
it's even though you may be part of a party,
that don't mean you're gonna necessarily agree with every single thing.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And he did do that. He's still a part of
the party. He rans what are you talking about? Okay,
But he still could be a Democrat if he wanted to.
You can run as a Democrat. Nobody can't tell you
can't run a Democrat. Probably runs independings. He didn't feel
like he was gonna get no support. You can still
run as whatever you want to run. You can get
on the ballot at and declare your candidacy for whatever
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you want to do. So he was talking about going
to them saying, hey, I want to run. I want
to put my name in the hand. Da da da No, no, no,
we're not gonna go with you. We're gonna get behind Marcellus. Okay, Well,
then I'll do independent.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Like Robert F.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Kennedy did. I'll just do independent. Then, if you're not
gonna give me the resource, you're not gonna help me.
You're gonna run somebody that got a better chance than me.
I'll run as an independent. That way, I don't have
to compete in the Democrat primary. These are things I'm assuming,
but usually what it is, I don't have to compete
among other Democrats. Y'all just see me as independent on
the battle. You're gona have to deal with me one
way or the other.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. You can give me somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
He said somebout he had like a black agenda and
all that, and they definitely was with that because he said,
you can't talk about that type of stuff with Democrat party.
You can't just mention black. They don't agree with that whatever.
But I just I just always thought.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, that's not true either.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's not with what the party as a whole, because
it's plenty things Democrats push that you know, push that
mentioned black, So that's not true he's talking about or miscommunicating,
how speaking it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Our understanding.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You can run however the hell you want to run,
but whatever agenda, running and getting support is not the
same thing. I can marry whoever I want to marry,
but having my parents blessing is not the same, right,
that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Do whatever you want to do. That don't mean I'm
gonna support.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You can't confuse support with well, why they not support,
you know, can't confuse support with what I'm doing it anyway,
two totally different things. Okay, he just figured it'd be
more advantageous for him to do independence since they're not
supporting them.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Then I'll give no money.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They're not gonna allow him access to advance, you know,
any of the things to support, and you're gonna run
another candidate against me. I'll just run independent because then
I'll be on the ballot regardless. You know, I gotta
fighting chance. Basically, you can still be on the ballot
as a Democrat, though you can run.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
We want you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But he looked at that as let me just being dependent,
because which you sound like you should have. If you're
not in line with any of the things they're talking about,
you should be independent. You chose right. You don't get
to come to use our resources and our endorsement.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
You don't rock with us all.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I want to be a Blood member, but I don't
want read to be my color, and I don't want
to rent no red flag. Oh okay, you don't want
to be a Blood then you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, I do, But but I thought like, Okay, I
thought you can. If I'm an associated with Democrat Party, Well,
what if I just I agree with nine things but
not ten?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Nobody said it got to be all ten.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So I'm gonna go with let me say one time
for those in the back, depending on the Democrat Party
that you're dealing with on the local level. Again, if
there's a candidate that's going with all ten, am I
gonna go with the one with all ten or all nine?
We're talking about who they want to support? You're getting
confused with I thought you could. You can? Let me
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say again, you can?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
You can? Marcellus, you can? You can?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You can?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You can? You can? That has nothing to do with
who I want to support. Are you following me? Now?
Watch y'all? He gonna ask again in two.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You could?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I thought you could be able to. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Again, whatever you want to do? Well, what about if
it's nine things? Okay, just use a relationship. If I
got a man that do nine. If I'm dating a
guy and one does nine things I like out of
ten and the other does ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Who am I gonna go with ten for ten? One?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Least?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
If we use a relationship that this is a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's a good training exercise right here in a relationship.
Let's say nine of those ten things are actual tasks.
Follow me with the logic marce ellis meaning he take
out the trash, she work. He's a provider, you know,
actual task. His overall candidacy. He looks good, makes me
(25:06):
feel good, maybe good in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
La da da dah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You know those things. I may be willing to go
with the nine over the ten for ten. If there's
something about the overall candidacy, are you following me that
is beneficial to me that I like? Or for example,
I can meet a man ten out of ten that
(25:29):
do ten out of ten things I like, but I
like the other person that does nine out of ten.
I like him better. I can get further. I can see,
I can have more patience with him. I can see
more of a long term vision with him. I can
you know, see, he may not have all the things
like money, for example, that's a big one you know
in relationship. He may not have that, but I like
(25:50):
all these other things about him. So it's overall candidacy
is a better candidacy. Does that make sense? So there
are times where the nine out of ten makes sense.
But if there's somebody that is a ten out of
ten and still can meet the overall candidacy to move
the party forward, who's the most electable, I'm gonna go
(26:11):
with who's the most electable, even if whether it's something
you may not agree with everything or not. This guy
sounds like he was not electable in that particular county,
that district as a Democrat compared to somebody else who was.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It's more complex than just the agenda.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, he said they used his They used it. They
used his background against them me not criminals.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
He's just getting worse by a second. But next time
you asked me a question, give me all the information
of time.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
No, not that kind of back on to mine like
they use. He never he never did any like political
work and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right, But that's still that's a perfect example what I'm saying,
Like the overall candidacy, you know what I mean, Like
your overall it may not just be ten out of ten.
What about when you got two people that do ten
out of ten, but you ain't, never did no work,
and we can't sell you.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You see what I'm saying. You're candidate.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, I agree with ten things y'all agree with, But
who's the better marketable candidate? Perfect example, I did it
with you on this episode. You never been you never
did what I do. You haven't been a right hand
for somebody like me. But your overall candidacy, I would
take you over somebody. When we were joking about not
knowing how to put up the step and repeat, I
(27:31):
would joke with I would take you over somebody who's
a master in putting other step step repeat because of
overall candidacy. Wow, who's gonna give me further along, further
along in the journey? Who's the most selectable? And that's
always may not be the agendas that you agree with?
So here this guy is. You don't agree with none
(27:53):
of our main agenda. You ain't never did nothing in politics.
We can't market you.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Why would I. We can't get behind me. It's not
saying nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
They translated, well, you know the demcrat part. Don't like
hearing that. No, you're just not a good candidate for
what they're looking.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
For in that moment. M hmm, well, I don't understand.
I turned my resume in when y'll go there I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Understand y'all said, y'all wanted this, this, this, I got this, this,
this right, but somebody else had this, this, this and
something else, which goes back to I tell you why
we need all the boxes check.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, but he said he did use the Well why
not some same thing? Well the Virginia he pulled that.
Well why not me? Why not me?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because these reasons we just told you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
What you mean?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Why not you ain't ready? Next question, why have you
not did the work?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Why have you not.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Why do you think you need to come up and
represent somebody when you ain't ded what need to be done?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
You know what I mean? Why why not have you
not done these things?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Why you guys on business people? They ain't what I.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Tell you all the time when you were just like
must said, politics is a business. Guess what it ain't.
I'm gonna run it like a business. Oh, the only
problem is it ain't a business. No, I'm gonna eat
this ice cream. I'm gonna eat this steak like I
eat ice cream. Well it's not ice cream though, that's
the only thing. There's components that you can use. I'm
(29:22):
mixing things from business. How I recruit because a lot
of politics is recruiting people.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So I use it.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It goes really really well. But it's not the same
as a collaborative effort. My business ain't collaborative. This is
how we're doing it. And that's that, you know what
I mean? Like, So yeah, no, which you mean why
not you why you ain't dead the.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Work because they wasn't doing it?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh well, then go do. But they also did what
you wasn't doing. See they started.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You wasn't doing what what they did.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So that's why you need to check the boxes. Check
the boxes. Nobody wants to check the boxes. You want
to go straight to No, just make me the mayor
because y'all.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Ain't doing it right.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
If they ain't doing it right and they got experience,
will make you think you're gonna do it right with
no experience because you just know it makes you roll
in the training. This is the type of ship y'all
that think, y'all, this this is why we we come on, y'all.
Y'all gotta get this ship together. I gotta get this
ship together. Make sure you enrolling the training, guys. June fourteen.
(30:34):
Course one uh starts at of course five. As you
can see with the questions that Marcella is asking. We
got a long way to go, you had a long
way to go, and to show you because if he
asked these questions, y'all asking them too. Next look, mar
I said, he don't mind answer no questions. So we
gotta get ain't no shame Marcella. People thinking that they
(30:56):
just ain't gonna say. And it's important, you know, like
this is that you want more this type of stuff.
This is what I do in training. This is what
I'm doing training.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Give you the things you need to know.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now obviously the training, we're not stopping asking all these questions.
So this was the podcast about we can just you know,
do this kind of stuff. Really unpack this, but this
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm here for it.
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
Sorry, hey man, that is just really really good news.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
When Charlotmage started the Black Effect, people said, oh, y'n't
know what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh you don't own it?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh this day and they was, they said they was
gonna start they own and we ain't heard from since.
So apparently Charlottae know what he was doing by not
trying to put all the ownership, meaning all of the
pressure on him, by actually partnering with our Heart, the
largest audio platform in the world, it looks like that
was a great idea. It looks like it made sense
(01:22):
because by not putting you know, which is what I talked.
By the way in my training, you know the three
things I tell you how to do save, shack and
secure and shaq I mean not shack Stack, you know,
I said shack and so stack is merging your resources
(01:43):
together business companies, ideas partnerships. And that's what he was
able to do and it's paid off.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Really, really well.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And just want to give a shout out to him
because without that, it wouldn't make space for people like me.
Because people like me, if I just had to sell
advertisement for what I do, there would be no show.
One advertising gonna get behind what I'm talking about. You know,
it's too risky. Two we don't get a million streams
(02:11):
of episode because we're not talking about the d D
trout every day or who dated who are pop culture
or real housewives and all that. So the news and
information is always going to be the ugly step child
of anything, but.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It is necessary and I'm proud to be a part
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And without having those entertainment platform you know it was
entertainment podcasts, I wouldn't be able to survive. And I
remember they were talking about it. I don't know they're
still gonna do that, but they were doing one just
on politics, you know, like a political black effect of sorts,
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, keep me right where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'd rather be on the podcast with horrible decisions and
drink chaps and you know, all of the you know,
the popular pop culture stuff, because I know that if
I'm a part of what they're doing and they can
pick up the slack on what the news is not
going to do. That's just the reality of Marcella's I know,
(03:06):
people don't want to hear it. Oh man, I can't believe,
you know, you always at Shahouoh, I can't believe. But look,
Martella stays shock y'all. You know, look at what's happening
in every news room in the country. You know, seeing
INN two three hundred people. You know, let go MSNBC
two hundred people. Everybody only one thriving is Fox.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Everything else writers traditional news that's out the window now.
Even getting online, they needs you to pay a description.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's how the wind.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know, only so many things are free other that, Like, guys,
it's just changing.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's too question. Why do you think.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Why you think Fox is s aurviving better than the
other networks.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I talk about that all the time and talked about
it on one of our other episodes.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
They have a niche market, a niche market.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
They've been able to carve out a niche of a
need that was not being met, which was conservative, a
conservative POV point of view, and they've been able to
master that to hook them in in an entertainment way.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And glad you asked a question. It's a whole documentary
on it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You should watch it, and a fiction movie about it
that really shows it's a lot. It's fact based over
Roger els, but really shows like what Fox, how it
got started, and the pr the entertaining it was supposed
to be, you know, all facts, no bias. We know
that's not the case, but they have been able to
(04:34):
if you look at the majority of people in America
are center and left, if you just take that assumption,
but I'm able to pull out just enough conservatives that
feel they have no other place to go, no competition really,
and have them plug in to me all day, whether
it's Fox News Online, if it's Fox Nation on demand,
(04:58):
if it's Fox on the that work and then in addition
of that, not only that while their hosts of the
highest paid in the industry, they also support their commentators
and hosts. They buy their books. I'll never forget when
a woman in the airport because she recognized them being
on Fox. It's like, you know, you really, you really
wed like you if you really should you know, be
a commentator, be on more. And she whispered, we take
(05:19):
care of our Fox people, you know, like buying books
and all this stuff. Best seller right out the gate.
You know, they make sure you know, I always talk
about the digital discipline. Right conservatives, right wing, they make sure.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That they keep their.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Messages out there, have the digital discipline. They in control
of that. And they dominate the AM stations. You know,
we sit by and say, don't nobody listen to radio?
Well they do, they do, We'll talk radio. So they dominated.
So if I got ten million people that don't have
anywhere else to go, and you create a space and
(05:59):
I'm make you want to come back over and over
because I'm telling anything I want to say, we always
on top. In addition to that, they negotiated a hell
of a deal, which means that and I'll use it
in very basic terms basic cable. You know, let's just
say you pay for your basic cable, and all y'all say,
don't nobody watch ca Well, even if you stream direct tv,
(06:19):
you know, even if you stream it, it's still money
is still going to that, you guys. So even if
you're paying through AT and T, you know, to watch
MSNBC or CNN on direct TV with AT and T,
that's still cable. Just because it's not physically plugged into
a wall does not mean, you know, go let people
say all nobody watched cable with if you watch CNN
(06:40):
or any you know on the guide, you know, with
those all those channels or whatever, that's still you know,
a premium you're paying for. And Fox negotiated the best
deal at compared to MSNBC and CNN. So even if
you don't like Fox, by you having that basic package
or whatever it is they negotiate, they get two three
(07:00):
that off the top period. So they negotiated a better
deal than MSNBC and CNN, which tends to lean towards
only if you subscribe to them that type of whatever
different stuff. I don't want to misquote anything, but they
negotiated a better return and they have a niche market.
Maybe I was just telling you we're just talking about this,
or I'll talk about it all the time. My goal,
(07:22):
like with this is a niche market. It doesn't have
to be everybody. That's why and what In the training
we say what it's not about me, it's not about we,
it's about what we need. That same concept, a niche market. Guys,
if you're out there listening, you can be a millionaire
with a niche market.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You could be. Let's use Tyler Perry for an example.
Tyler Perry.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And before I get into that, let me just remind
y'all the training. Let me make sure I pick up
where I left off the training guys, June fourteenth, first
training roles responsibility for campaign workers, candidates, activists, organizers. Make
sure you enrolled two pm Eastern. If you missed it,
nowhereas you can go back and watch the replay. Nowhere
is it all fifty bucks right now? We have a contract,
(08:05):
a coupon ten dollars off just put in. Let's go
all right with that said Tyler Perry, y'all love talking
about the wigs. Y'all love saying we see it a storyline.
Y'all love saying you know why Tyler perrykeet doing that.
Tyler Peaire don't care about what y'all saying. He has
a niche market, a niche market, and church going folks
(08:29):
or whoever that just love the Tyler Peary brand that
will continue to keep watching the same story over and
over and over if need be, because they have bought
in to the Tyler pair brand. Oprah did the same thing.
They bought in to the Oprah brand. For those who
remember on the nineties and coming up in the nineties,
if Oprah said that was the shoe, that was the shoe.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
If Oprah said this is on my book club list,
that was the book.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's how a lot of the Banzett got born out
of that doctor field, out of that. When people buy
into the brand, that's it, and you don't need everybody.
And so right now where stuff is so competitive with
millions and millions and means of people, you don't need
to try to you know, people's competition. They think I
got to be as big as Beyonce to be successful. No,
(09:13):
everybody may not know you, but just have your niche market,
focus on your niche. Same thing with politics, same thing
applies talk to my voter.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's why Trump is successful.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Whether y'all like it or not, he ain't successful because
he don't do such and such.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Y'all don't hear. Y'all literally don't hear what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Successful means he gets his people to get out and
vote him hell.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And high water, and he do.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And we see that with the last election because Republicans
flipped the switch.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And came out of early voted like never before.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They early voted, and they voted day up, where Democrats
always focus on early voting.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And after that, theay tired. They don't want to go
no more. Like what you said about school, I did enough,
I did. I need a break.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
They don't take no breaks. Marcelle's dance is they don't
take no break.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
They keep moving.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And when you're able to do that, they have the
digital discipline. They trolled all day long. They shut it
down all day long. They keep their narrative going all long.
They keep it going, keep it going, keep it going,
keep it going. They bully all day long. That is
why they're able to keep their people engaged.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And it works. It works.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's not the approach of the well people should have
looked it up. Well they should have known, well they did?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know? Well, well they it's basic civics. Oh well
you just voting to get shown interest doesn't work. Democrats
can't keep up.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
They can't keep up with this error of basically an influencer,
a live ig, live president that puts everything live every day.
Everything's a media skeptical, a show, shit show, all of it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
But it keeps its people engaged.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, because I was like to say, even when.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
As I find myself and on I'm watching Fox News
and I'm like, damn, this network is pretty good though,
because they get down and dirt. They get down in dirt.
I'd like seeing then there to me, in my opinion,
seeing it is a little bit more relax, a little
bit more calm. But Box they don't care. They get
real down in dirt right there.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
They get down to Abby Phillips and her show been
kind of turned up a little bit later on cn NBL.
They don't care. They don't care about how you feel.
They're rough, which is why they love me because I'm
rough too. But speaking of ship shows, just a quick
weekly recap of some stories on last week. As y'all
(11:41):
may have heard by now Trump and Elon are breaking
up or we don't know what they're going through. But
Trump said that I'll just read the quick recap. President
Trump said he was surprised as former advisor Elon Musk
is scorching the Republican Megabill, advancing most of Trump's biggest
(12:02):
domestic policy priorities, but said he thought Musk was wrong
and conflict and conflicted in his criticism. Musk has been
actively attacking the megabill for days, calling it porkfield and
disgusting abomination. After Trump spoke, must posted on x that
without me, Trump would have lost the election, Ben would
control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
(12:24):
to forty nine in the Senate. Now, of course, you
know people ran with that. We told you stole it.
We told you isn't that. I mean, y'all can run
whatever y'all want to. But Peuple's gonna win that election
without must N't know what Elin is talking about. And
for those of y'all who want to conspiracy, we told
y'all he he didn't rig nothing. Guys, the electoral college,
(12:45):
y'all don't focus on it. A black woman was never
and I repeat never, and it's not a dis the
black woman. Y'all gotta stop projecting shit. You gotta stop
thinking because I'm saying a black woman can't get it
that I'm saying we're not worthy. Not the same shit
you You hear a personal attack on you, and that's
not what that is. It is this country has not
elected a black woman for governor as head of state.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Why would they make it ahead of the country.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Now for those of you saying, well, she ain't black,
well she damn show ain't white that we know said that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Somebody said that today. I was like, here we go there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, we know she ain't black or white that we
do thought right, and we know we ain't never had
no woman elected color as they say, definitely wasn't gonna
be elected, especially right and and not and not one
hundred days left. So that's just that.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You know so guys, only it's only been two people
that lost against Trump, two women, Hillary and Kamala. It's
gonna be one person, Yeah, that's right that beat Donald Trump.
And his name is Joseph R.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Biden. Yeah, and y'all to sit down.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I keep thinking about when she had an interview, man,
I was I felt so bad for when she her
and Charlottagne had their little the little interview and she
was like, I'm gonna win. Charlotte Mayne, I am. I'm
like you said. It was such confidence.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, well, you know, as they should. Charlma was leading
the charge. Uh Biden to have a seat, and Hairy
step up leading the charge.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
She got slaughtered. I'm sorry it wasn't even close.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Seven swing states. All of somebody saying the crowd saying,
remember when.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
We did the live de bait, and I knew it
was over soon as I told you. I said, Well,
they said she lost in Georgie.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I knew it was over when.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't know why you was waiting till the end
when it was over. I told you it was over
when she got on the ballot. I told you was
over when she got on the ballot. It was over,
but you just to election like to get it.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You was late because I.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Know I'm talking about when we was remember it was
going over the results.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Let me say one man, I know what you're talking about. Oh,
I knew it was over when she lost George. I'm
let me say it more time for Marcella's and.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I know exactly what you're talking me.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I'm gonna say it the time when she got on
the ballot, I told you it was over. So we
never had a show going over the results. If you
never saw Georgia, I told you it was over, going
over your head when you said, oh, I knew it
was over when they said Georgia, I know what.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You keep talking about it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You keep read saying saying it different ways. I'm telling
you it was over the moment she got on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It was over.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You didn't have to wait on them to say she
just lost George. I told you she was gonna lose George.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You're missing what I'm telling you. If that was oh,
it's over, now I see it. No, it's been over.
You follow what I'm telling you. It's been over. It's
been over. It wasn't gonna happen. It was a setup.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
That's all. So much of us set up that.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Speaking of other news this week, Corinne John Pierre, Biden's
former press secretary, leaves the Democrat Party. Now she's not
going to be a Republican obviously, she's going to be independent,
and they've been tearing her hess up on social media
about this. Let me read the recap. Who served as
White House Press secretary for Joe Biden has left the
(16:30):
Democrat parties to become an independent. According to the publisher
of forthcoming book, John Pierre, who served two Democratic white Houses,
is expected to detail the weeks that preceded Biden's momental
decision to withdraw from the race. The book, a title
title Independent, A Look Inside a Broken White House Outside
the Party Lines, promises a detailed recounting of the three
(16:53):
weeks that led to Biden's abandonment, abandoning his bid for
a second term, and the betrayal by the Democratic they
led to the decision.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I'm looking forward to this. You know, people are upset
about it. I talked to some progressive that's easy for
how to do it? Now?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Don't nobody like Democrats disease And I had to tell
my friend it's it's not easy. This is not easy
for her. Whether it's a grip to sell a book
or not. Let's just break this down. She has every
reason to be a Democrat. She's at the top of
the fool chain. She worked for Obama, she worked for
Biden first black press secretary. She's at the top of
the food chain selling a book. She can make far
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more with speeches and all types of She don't have
to do this to leave the She could write a
book Marcellis without leaving the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Let's be logical.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
She could write a book Broken Heart, how they pushed
Biden off. She did not have to leave the Democrat
Party unless she fundamentally believes this ain't it because not
only does she leave, she don't have nowhere to go.
She's not like progressives who should go to the Green
Party and start their own. She literally don't have nowhere
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to go. So I don't say this is an easy
thing to walk away. And she piss it off. Everybody,
go look at the comments on shaven now at the time.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We don't need this.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You should have stayed. He helped you, and look how
you betrayed him. They want people to be more loyal
to the politician, yeah, than to principles. Yeah, which is
why we don't need parties. If that's what that's why
I can't be a part of any party. They want
you an oath like I agree with all these things.
That's not how it's made up. It's not how I'm
made up.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I'm glad you said.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I'm glad you said that because I was gonna ask
you about that because I spoke to someone that said
they ran for office, and they were saying that they
was they ran for lieutenant governor, and they were saying
they they was a part of the Democrat Party and
they were saying a minute that they they didn't agree
with the the what is it the LGBT agenda now
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that they they told, well, we can't rock with you
or whatever. And he said he, uh, he left the
Democratic Party. And he said, did nobody get behind his
his campaign anything?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because I run, if you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Have to add in behind you, you know, just because
they didn't endorse you, because they didn't see it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, he still ran. He just said he lost. Uh.
He said he ran twice.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Uh, he said he so you know, he could have
won without them supporting. So we need a new camp
just so you know. But you don't have to have
their support. But I understand what you're saying. It wasn't
like just because you gotta support Demo crapt part.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Don't mean you gonna win either. I just want to
make that point.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Okay, That's how I was gonna ask because I wanted
to know because I ain't know if he was telling you,
because I'm like, do they.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Really to tell you? You know, then they're not endorse.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It, even like what I'm gonna endorse, Yeah, Like why
would I endure if you're not in line with the
things that we as a party. Just let's just do
simple terms. Let's just do basic logic. If I'm getting
donations and say the Teslim Party agrees to reparations, black business, this, this, this,
and Marcel's is giving me twenty, it's like a union.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You're putting in money. This is the things that that
the union.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And so if we're gonna endorse somebody's represent the union,
want you to represent the things that we care about.
We're not gonna spend your money on a candidate that's
not in lives things you care about. We wish you
the best, but we don't have to get behind that.
We're not telling you not to run. We're not saying
you can't runs the Democrat. We're saying, if you want
us to get behind you, to push you to invest money,
because that's what that is, you know, invest the money
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endorsing you all that you need to be.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
On board with the things we care about. Why is
that confusing?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
No, I give you because I just thought, you know,
it's even though you may be part of a party,
that don't mean you're gonna necessarily agree with every single thing.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And he did do that. He's still a part of
the party. He rans what are you talking about? Okay,
But he still could be a Democrat if he wanted to.
You can run as a Democrat. Nobody can't tell you
can't run a Democrat. Probably runs independings. He didn't feel
like he was gonna get no support. You can still
run as whatever you want to run. You can get
on the ballot at and declare your candidacy for whatever
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you want to do. So he was talking about going
to them saying, hey, I want to run. I want
to put my name in the hand. Da da da No, no, no,
we're not gonna go with you. We're gonna get behind Marcellus. Okay, Well,
then I'll do independent.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Like Robert F.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Kennedy did. I'll just do independent. Then, if you're not
gonna give me the resource, you're not gonna help me.
You're gonna run somebody that got a better chance than me.
I'll run as an independent. That way, I don't have
to compete in the Democrat primary. These are things I'm assuming,
but usually what it is, I don't have to compete
among other Democrats. Y'all just see me as independent on
the battle. You're gona have to deal with me one
way or the other.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. You can give me somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
He said somebout he had like a black agenda and
all that, and they definitely was with that because he said,
you can't talk about that type of stuff with Democrat party.
You can't just mention black. They don't agree with that whatever.
But I just I just always thought.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, that's not true either.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's not with what the party as a whole, because
it's plenty things Democrats push that you know, push that
mentioned black, So that's not true he's talking about or miscommunicating,
how speaking it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Our understanding.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You can run however the hell you want to run,
but whatever agenda, running and getting support is not the
same thing. I can marry whoever I want to marry,
but having my parents blessing is not the same, right,
that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Do whatever you want to do. That don't mean I'm
gonna support.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You can't confuse support with well, why they not support,
you know, can't confuse support with what I'm doing it anyway,
two totally different things. Okay, he just figured it'd be
more advantageous for him to do independence since they're not
supporting them.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Then I'll give no money.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They're not gonna allow him access to advance, you know,
any of the things to support, and you're gonna run
another candidate against me. I'll just run independent because then
I'll be on the ballot regardless. You know, I gotta
fighting chance. Basically, you can still be on the ballot
as a Democrat, though you can run.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
We want you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But he looked at that as let me just being dependent,
because which you sound like you should have. If you're
not in line with any of the things they're talking about,
you should be independent. You chose right. You don't get
to come to use our resources and our endorsement.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
You don't rock with us all.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I want to be a Blood member, but I don't
want read to be my color, and I don't want
to rent no red flag. Oh okay, you don't want
to be a Blood then you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, I do, But but I thought like, Okay, I
thought you can. If I'm an associated with Democrat Party, Well,
what if I just I agree with nine things but
not ten?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Nobody said it got to be all ten.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So I'm gonna go with let me say one time
for those in the back, depending on the Democrat Party
that you're dealing with on the local level. Again, if
there's a candidate that's going with all ten, am I
gonna go with the one with all ten or all nine?
We're talking about who they want to support? You're getting
confused with I thought you could. You can? Let me
(23:52):
say again, you can?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
You can? Marcellus, you can? You can?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You can?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You can? You can? That has nothing to do with
who I want to support. Are you following me? Now?
Watch y'all? He gonna ask again in two.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You could?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I thought you could be able to. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Again, whatever you want to do? Well, what about if
it's nine things? Okay, just use a relationship. If I
got a man that do nine. If I'm dating a
guy and one does nine things I like out of
ten and the other does ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Who am I gonna go with ten for ten? One?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Least?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
If we use a relationship that this is a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's a good training exercise right here in a relationship.
Let's say nine of those ten things are actual tasks.
Follow me with the logic marce ellis meaning he take
out the trash, she work. He's a provider, you know,
actual task. His overall candidacy. He looks good, makes me
(25:06):
feel good, maybe good in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
La da da dah.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You know those things. I may be willing to go
with the nine over the ten for ten. If there's
something about the overall candidacy, are you following me that
is beneficial to me that I like? Or for example,
I can meet a man ten out of ten that
(25:29):
do ten out of ten things I like, but I
like the other person that does nine out of ten.
I like him better. I can get further. I can see,
I can have more patience with him. I can see
more of a long term vision with him. I can
you know, see, he may not have all the things
like money, for example, that's a big one you know
in relationship. He may not have that, but I like
(25:50):
all these other things about him. So it's overall candidacy
is a better candidacy. Does that make sense? So there
are times where the nine out of ten makes sense.
But if there's somebody that is a ten out of
ten and still can meet the overall candidacy to move
the party forward, who's the most electable, I'm gonna go
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with who's the most electable, even if whether it's something
you may not agree with everything or not. This guy
sounds like he was not electable in that particular county,
that district as a Democrat compared to somebody else who was.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It's more complex than just the agenda.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, he said they used his They used it. They
used his background against them me not criminals.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
He's just getting worse by a second. But next time
you asked me a question, give me all the information
of time.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
No, not that kind of back on to mine like
they use. He never he never did any like political
work and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right, But that's still that's a perfect example what I'm saying,
Like the overall candidacy, you know what I mean, Like
your overall it may not just be ten out of ten.
What about when you got two people that do ten
out of ten, but you ain't, never did no work,
and we can't sell you.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You see what I'm saying. You're candidate.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, I agree with ten things y'all agree with, But
who's the better marketable candidate? Perfect example, I did it
with you on this episode. You never been you never
did what I do. You haven't been a right hand
for somebody like me. But your overall candidacy, I would
take you over somebody. When we were joking about not
knowing how to put up the step and repeat, I
(27:31):
would joke with I would take you over somebody who's
a master in putting other step step repeat because of
overall candidacy. Wow, who's gonna give me further along, further
along in the journey? Who's the most selectable? And that's
always may not be the agendas that you agree with?
So here this guy is. You don't agree with none
(27:53):
of our main agenda. You ain't never did nothing in politics.
We can't market you.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Why would I. We can't get behind me. It's not
saying nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
They translated, well, you know the demcrat part. Don't like
hearing that. No, you're just not a good candidate for
what they're looking.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
For in that moment. M hmm, well, I don't understand.
I turned my resume in when y'll go there I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Understand y'all said, y'all wanted this, this, this, I got this, this,
this right, but somebody else had this, this, this and
something else, which goes back to I tell you why
we need all the boxes check.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, but he said he did use the Well why
not some same thing? Well the Virginia he pulled that.
Well why not me? Why not me?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Because these reasons we just told you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
What you mean?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Why not you ain't ready? Next question, why have you
not did the work?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Why have you not.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Why do you think you need to come up and
represent somebody when you ain't ded what need to be done?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
You know what I mean? Why why not have you
not done these things?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Why you guys on business people? They ain't what I.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Tell you all the time when you were just like
must said, politics is a business. Guess what it ain't.
I'm gonna run it like a business. Oh, the only
problem is it ain't a business. No, I'm gonna eat
this ice cream. I'm gonna eat this steak like I
eat ice cream. Well it's not ice cream though, that's
the only thing. There's components that you can use. I'm
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mixing things from business. How I recruit because a lot
of politics is recruiting people.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So I use it.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It goes really really well. But it's not the same
as a collaborative effort. My business ain't collaborative. This is
how we're doing it. And that's that, you know what
I mean? Like, So yeah, no, which you mean why
not you why you ain't dead the.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Work because they wasn't doing it?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh well, then go do. But they also did what
you wasn't doing. See they started.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You wasn't doing what what they did.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So that's why you need to check the boxes. Check
the boxes. Nobody wants to check the boxes. You want
to go straight to No, just make me the mayor
because y'all.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Ain't doing it right.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
If they ain't doing it right and they got experience,
will make you think you're gonna do it right with
no experience because you just know it makes you roll
in the training. This is the type of ship y'all
that think, y'all, this this is why we we come on, y'all.
Y'all gotta get this ship together. I gotta get this
ship together. Make sure you enrolling the training, guys. June fourteen.
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Course one uh starts at of course five. As you
can see with the questions that Marcella is asking. We
got a long way to go, you had a long
way to go, and to show you because if he
asked these questions, y'all asking them too. Next look, mar
I said, he don't mind answer no questions. So we
gotta get ain't no shame Marcella. People thinking that they
(30:56):
just ain't gonna say. And it's important, you know, like
this is that you want more this type of stuff.
This is what I do in training. This is what
I'm doing training.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Give you the things you need to know.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now obviously the training, we're not stopping asking all these questions.
So this was the podcast about we can just you know,
do this kind of stuff. Really unpack this, but this
is the type of information, these ahu moments that you get.
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