"Boutique Hotels" w/ Cole Escola RE-RELEASE

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hoody.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Who everyone, It's me George. I have bad news and
I have good news. Bad news is that there's no
new episode this week because we are both traveling and
working and of course celebrating Pride, which is a full
time job with terrible benefits. And also some of us
are getting married and there's just a lot.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Going on over at Straight or liab HQ.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
But I promise we will be back next week with
a whole new episode. We are quite literally recording two
new episodes tomorrow in studio in New York with some
really great guests, So I promise we will be back
very soon. So that is the bad news. The good
news is that to celebrate our friend Cola scolas Tony
Award win for their smash hit play Oh Mary, we

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have decided to re release their episode from a little
over a year ago, when I believe they were promoting
the off Broadway run of the play before it had
even extended off Broadway.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So a lot can happen in a year. We are so.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Proud of Tony Award winner and two time Stradio Lab
guests Cola Scola for all their success and Cole. If
you're listening, please text us back. We really want you
to connect us to Nicole Scherzinger. We think should be
such a good guest on the podcast. I think we
would have a lot to talk about. I think we
have a lot in common, and so we are looking

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forward to your response. Enjoy the episode.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Podcast starts now.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I already have a thought, which is I'm going to
bring back Zippit.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You're bringing back zippit.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, you brought back me thinks, which I think, first
of all worked one.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
It swept the world by storm.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
People think we might people might think we're joking if
they were not up to date with our Instagram stories.
Let's say, but literally a week after you said we're
bringing back me things, none other than Taylor Swift posted
meat Things methinks.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
The methings movement was a huge success.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I do think the meathinks movement well, you know, now,
with the benefit of hindsight, did it go too far?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Maybe it did get too big where it started as
sort of a you know, alt community, and then it
became so mainstream so fast that even I found myself
being like, no, I don't even like me thinks.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
The methinks movement started as people telling their stories, and
they were necessary, but at some point you start thinking,
do they just want attention?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, so you're gonna do that with zippit.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'm gonna do that with zippit. By the way, I
don't actually believe what I just said. That was a
sort of harmless bit.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
We play characters on it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We play characters on this podcast. I'm a huge feminist
and everyone knows that. I do think I'm gonna I
think zip it is such a fun way to say
shut up.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I mean it's so nineties. Yeah, and even like the bit,
like the zip like, yes, playing with.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It so have a word that starts with a Z
is so rare? So rarely am I saying getting rare? Logical?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yes, Zelda, Well I said that a fair mountain my day.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay, Well, I'm not a gamer like you. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I had a friend who had a launched a bottled
cocktail company called Zuzu. I said, that is the best
name for this is not a joke. Actually a very
good friend of mine, and I was like, that is
such a genius name because everyone wants to say more z's.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Everyone's craving more z's in their life. So I think
zip it could be could be big. I think zip
it could be huge. And I told you this last night. Yeah,
but I'm actually loving the semi irony of exclaiming make
it make sense.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh you love make it make sense?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think make it makes sense is so funny. It's
like just vintage enough where it's like some people still.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Say it for real and it's rooted in truth.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Sometimes you are like, make it make sense, but it's such.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
A stupid Internet phrase. That is like saying it out
in the wild as if it's normal. Is very like
blurg core's ho true? Do you think does everyone understand
blurg is shorthand.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Wait, hold on, you mean blurg as a metam is
the right word.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Blurg is a.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Categor categorization of specific Internet language and and type of
humor that's very sort of like on the spectrum of
love these beautiful humans. Yeah, love these beautiful humans is
one end and the other end is the interwebs, yes, exactly,
and Blurg is in the middle.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Blurg is center.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
To be clear, the entire spectrum is morally bankrupt.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Of course, but it's important to recognize that there are
differences within the culture.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I sort of God, someone needs to write an essay
about how.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I've been saying this for years. It's the it's it's
my term that I coin half humor, which is when
something gestures at being funny but is not actually funny.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Is blurgcore different than half humor?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, it's I would say blurg interwebs and these beautiful
humans are all part of like the initial wave of
half humor, and I think currently half humor is like
Joe Biden posting Dark Brandon memes. We do have to
bring in our guests, but I want to I want
to torture them even further by talking about something that

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I know they want to comment on while they're not.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Allowed to speak chastity play.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
We were talking about how our guest and again they
will say this themselves, but they were saying that they
liked being part of a friend group of three. And
MY response was that is the worst number for a
friend group because inevitably someone gets left out. There are
two best friends and one sort of like flop third.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I completely disagree.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Now, I think a three group of friends is like
there's checks and balances there.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
From a social justice perspective, undoubtedly it's the right choice,
but I'm saying like in practice. Listen, it's like, how
of course commune it would work, but show me where
it works in practice.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I also like that, you know, it sort of has
an engine churning to a three, like when someone's out
and they're like, okay, well then I'll do something to
get back in, and then and then and then they're like, okay,
well now we need to catch up to this, and
there's just sort of a they progress.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
You're you're thinking as an improv comedian, and I think
for you and potentially for me, like for us, a
three way friend group would work because we all have
a sense of play within us. I think the average
person wants to be on top and the average person
wants to win. And when the average person is in
a group of three, they are looking.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Our guest is vigorously shaking their head. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It is also not to state the obvious, very meta
so to speak, that we are currently banning the third
person in this friend group of speaking.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
We know it's at the bottom right now.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Talking about the benefits slash drawbacks.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Of groups of three, Well, and this came up, I
will say, because you know we were talking and saying,
you know, we were are potentially going to do an
episode with just the two of us, and we were like,
neither of us seemed like like jumping at the at
that and I felt like it was sort of like
we were a couple that needed a third at all

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times or to be engaged with each other.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It is a crutch, I guess, but it doesn't have
to be. It doesn't have to be. Maybe we don't
even bring in our guests. Ever, I would celebrate it.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And just sort of do an episode just two of us. Now,
why wait until the next session?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Why wait? I mean their time is flexible.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, they are freeing anything.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
They're not promoting anything. This is a favorite of them, honestly. Yeah.
What I don't even like them that much?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
No, no, no, what else would we like to say
that they would just would love to jump in on?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know, what's the deal with Abraham Lincoln?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Say that?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I've always it's always a big question mark.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I pretty much get. Is he married? Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Our guest has steam coming out of their damn ears
at this point. Please welcome cold the school.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Hi. Hi. First of all, half humor is the lifeblood
of work.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, half humor is very much like Icebreakers, corporate glatitude, latitudes, aphorisms,
badass culture.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's you are a Badass, like the book You Are
a bad Ass? Have you seen that? In airport?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
There's a book called I'm pretty sure it's called You
are a Badass, and it's like a self help book
with like a punchy humor.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
H And Okay, that was one thing.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
The other thing is in in groups of three, the
pressure is off to be.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
The pressure is off. I see you can say just
two people and like it's silent. It's like I like,
I like being like, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
What they've got this?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I like that actually, And do you feel that way
in sex as well?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I do I feel that way in sex? Uh No,
it's a threesomes feel confusing, you know, because maybe you
don't want to way back. Well, well there's more sometimes
you way back, but there's there's more, there's more space.
If you're a little silent in a three way conversation

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for a bit and you're taking a sip of water,
you're not thinking, wait, do they hate me? You're just
thinking I'm taking a break.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Sometimes I'm not thinking they hate me, but sometimes I
am thinking like they're boring. Oh, like I'm thinking like
this conversation is not that good because I'm not okay
during a conversation like.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh, during a conversation or during a three way during
a conversation, okay, okay, yeah, well and that's fine because
they've got it. They've got it, they've got it. You're like, Okay,
they're having they're boring conversation. I don't have to engage.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, sometimes i'll do a performative yawn.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'll just be like.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
That's a key role that a friend can play.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
But I think more people want to be cocks than
they had cos yeap cocks.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, Okay, I missed, I missed the start of this.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
No you didn't, I didn't. That's pretty much pretty much it.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Okay, So do you think so you think there are
more people than are willing to admit it that want
to be cooked?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yes? Yeah, I think you're of being like cheated on
is actually a desire to be yes, cheated on?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
And the last topic that I brought when I was
on cheating Yeah, it is very straight.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I do think you're so right. Well, of course, every
thank you, everything you next I'm speaking I of course,
every big fear we have, including like nuclear war is
a desire for that.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Sure, Well that's the whole thing. I hate when people
are like, we're living in the end.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Time's talking about blurr humor end times. So okay ai
and I but it's like.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Clearly you're just like a narcissist, like you kind of
want it to end, Like I was there, Yeah, I
actually was there when it ended.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, so my story matters.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, that's also it's everyone thinks to living in the
worst possible time, and it's not because they have this
like incredible capacity for emphitheyic critique. It's because they have
literally main character syndrome and think they are living in
the most.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Called drive for death.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yes, death drive yes, yes, huh hmm, okay.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Right to have down right, that's really smart, thank you.
I have a question regarding you brought up half humor
in the workplace specifically, would you rather there be half
humor or no humor? Because one thing this is interesting,
one thing that's tough about a workplace is like get
the utility of half humor? Well, absolutely, because you want
to be able to like it's sort of like we're friendly.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
How how like Europeans are like either complain or are
are happy about how fake nice Americans are, like say,
everyone asking how's your day, but they don't really care.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know, my grandma used to do this is going
to be a visual thing, so.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Okay, close your eyes everybody on YouTube if you're driving.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Episodes are full episodes available on our YouTube channel. My
grandmother used to do this. This is her impression of
an American and this. She used to do this when
we were kids.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
She would go, uh huh, she would like, nice to
meet you. Yeah, she would like do a smile and
then immediately retract the smile because it's so fake.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, wow Russian queen. Yeah, she was an impressions queen.
She is actually still alive, so is.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
It, but she lost her talent?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I feel like would you rather have have not?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Not?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
That? The absence?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well this is.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
You know, some would argue yes, yes that you know,
that's sort of a New York versus La question.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Oh would those people's name be Sam Dagger? Look I
don't I wish I were.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, it's just like that is like, would you rather
people be like overly polite but you don't know what
they're thinking, or would overly kurt and but like honest.
But yeah, and I prefer Kurt been honest.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I agree. And I also think like when I.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Think you do the Sandra like no, ow, that was
so curt and honest. I feel like the Sandra Huler
interview cycle where she's being like like cold and they're like,
do you love MESSI the dog and she's like it's
just a.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Dog, like yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Actually, yeah, Well my favorite Birther is sore Huler world
is how they people keep trying to make jokes about
the fact that she plays a literal Nazi and zone
of interest.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
And she refuses to laugh along.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
She's just like, that is not funny, and would.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You rather true it's not funny.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
By the way, She's like wait, She's literally like, oh
my god, I'm just not realizing it's talk about Blurg.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I guess I'm a Nazi now, So that's normal.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Make it, make say make it make sense, make it
makes sense, make safe.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So here's my thing with half humor in the workplace
is it is keeping people just well behaved enough that
they don't like it's very I'm so sorry capital yeah, yes,
it's like it's in fact Neil Liberal. Yes, because if
because that is literally what like the difference is between

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soothing cube exactly, between cubicle culture and bouncy balls.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
What sorry, what was so funny? Well, I'm not trying
to make fun of you, but you said it weird,
weird cubicle.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, what did I say?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
You said, like, cubical cubacal, Like, it's very cub it's
a more like cere.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
You working at cubical. Oh, yes, that's not cubical cubicle. Yeah,
it's I would fake fake half humor. Recently, I said to.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Someone, so I was talking about like going to high
school in Greece, and I was like, yeah, but you
know I lived here in my early childhood. That's so
I don't have an accent. And they go, I think
you have a slight accent. I was like, WHOA. First
of all, that's that's for me to decide. Yeah, but
I guess I said the word cubicle.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, I think that was it.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
That was such a deep Greek accent that where we're
all like, ask George George to say cubicle. Wait before
I got distracted, Yes, who cares? Just about half humor in.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The humor in the workplace now, I'm worried that I'm not.
I have to be the one to write this essay,
and now that I've said it publicly, someone else is
gonna write it. Gia Tolantino is going to step in
and write the essay about half Humor.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, you know what, it'll be a good essay. Yeah, yeah,
I can do it. Well, but but do you have
but you can't do it?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Put your mind to it, right exactly, Yeah, Ga, puts
pen to paper. That's just true that anyone else.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay, Well, I'm okay, I'm committing that in the next
calendar year, I will publish my essay on half Humor.
And I don't care if it's in Barry white is
sub Stack. It's going to get published.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Wow, that's right.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm gonna go right wings like no one else will
publish you.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I don't know, so col Okay, let's let's cut the ship.
The ship. So you have a show at Union Hall
or something.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yes, it's called Justice Gals.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
And it's sort of like it's all like the like
your funny friends, Like it's just like listening to your
funny friends totally.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, and this is a spin off of your previous show.
LGBT lol. Right, yeah, yeah, I love that show.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Thank you. That was a huge hit. Yeah, I mean
it was a different time. It was.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
It was a different time. I feel bad about like
a lot of the stuff that we said, but.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, well the time I can't publicly talk about a
lot of it because of a lot souit no exactly exactly,
which is a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, monetarily a curse, but like public relations wise, a blessing.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I don't have a show at Union Hall. I'm sorry,
So you either want to tell you we are like.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Some we're playing this weird game where we're like not
saying your show. And also that's fine.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's funny because we of course to us, it's obvious
what the show is. But I realized that the not
the whole point, part of the point of us talking
is to.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Promote the show. Well, not that it needs it, not
that it needs well, that's the thing. It is so load.
It is sold out, but we just added one more week.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh well, this is going to make all the difference,
because I heard that one that extra week actually is
not so yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
That one the last week last week it sold up
until that last week.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
You thought you were like, you got really cocky and
you were like, wow, it's sold out an extra week.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, but it's one week. Everyone that wanted tickets.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
They got them, they got them.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
They're good. Yeah, but yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Called Oh Mary, if we're gonna be honest for a.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Secon, if we can be honest, if we can cut
the bullshit and.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Got the bullshit and be kurt and honest like New
Yorkers rather than a Los Angeles sort of like talking yep, yep,
yep without anything, thank you. And we've both seen it obviously.
Of course, here's the thing. Here's my thing with the show.
With with this show is like every superletive about it
has been said, and I agree with all of them,
and I'm like, what original thing can I.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Say that we'll add to it. Yeah, And also.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I know Cole can see through fake praise. It's like
so so I'm like there's another layer where I'm like, Okay,
I think the.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Best thing you could say is enough has been said
about it.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Oh that's really smart and it's fine, and.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Enough's been said about it. It's good. No, no, but
let's not no, but it is.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Actually it is one of those rare things that is
in fact as good as everyone says it is. And
then you're like, well, it sort of sucks that we
used up all the superlatives to talk about.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Like salt burn.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, soup and salt super and salt burn.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
No, it's an incredible show, absolutely groundbreaking.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah it really, it just is.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
You're one of the greatest we've got, and you know it,
and you know it, and this is such a perfect encapsulation.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And taste and performance.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
And you know, I say this as someone who goes
a lot of theater coal and I go to very little.
I'm always, I'm always this is a grandmother.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I get both.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And yeah, and I'll tell you something. A lot of
it is not good theater.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Theaters.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Theater is a lot of gorgeous theater.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
A lot of it is also good.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, but would you not agree that a lot of
it is not I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Trying to you're trying to rewards right now, Okay, so
please campaign and campaigning.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
You know, I gotta I can't burn any bridges.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Right. Here's a question for you.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
So in this play, oh Mary, you play Mary Todd Lincoln. Yes,
if let's say, suddenly you're cast in a Marvel movie
as bat Girl. Yes, you have to leave the show.
Who would you cast to play?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh I am. I am already like a thousand steps ahead,
Like I can't wait for other people to play. Really, yes,
I would prefer not. You don't want to say yeah
to be No, I would prefer not to be.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Oh really yeah, that's that's shocking to me. No, No,
it's exhausting.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, I mean it's fun.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
It's the most fun I've round, Like hell, to be honest,
I mean yeah, eight shows a week, shows a week,
I mean is crazy. That's what theater people do.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You know, that's what we do.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Oh, we do, that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I mean I have.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
One podcast in a day and I say, oh, yeah,
I can't do this anymore. I would love.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I've fantasized about Titus Burgess playing that is Mary Todd Lincoln,
Donna Murphy. Oh my god, should be amazing. The two
of them together sort of like every other word, you know,
arms linked, like looking at each other instead of like
I mean you say something, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Any but like I would love.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
When I was in auditions for the understudy, I was like, oh,
this is a good role for someone.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Oh, it absolutely is That's so shocking to me really,
just because it was like, it's so you and it's
so like, it's hard. Don't trust my writing. What are
you trying to say here? No, it's it's hard to imagine.
I'm sure it would be possible, but.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is something people have
been surprised or not surprised by. But you know, you
hear Cola Scola doing a let's say, I initially thought
it was like a solo show, like the one person.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
That's what I was hoping. Like, now I'm sort of like,
I'm sad that the moment's over where everyone was like, oh,
this is going to be Cole throwing on a wig
on a stage alone, yes, and then the surprise of
it being a capital.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh that was planned. The surprise of it like you well.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, I mean I knew that's what people's expectators might be.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
But I do think that is yeah, I mean that
is the big surprise where we're like, oh, this is
like full on a play.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
With the cast, the gorgeous actors. I wish I could
tell you any of their names right now. Sweet people,
sweet sweet people. They smile at me every day I
just love them all. They respect all my boundaries, don't
make icon tact.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I don't ask me how I'm doing. Yeah, that's and
that's really not Have any of them been like James
Scully or contra James. No, we haven't had them unkily,
none of them. Nobody so funny.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, she's funny.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I saw her when I was eighteen, my first year
in New York, my first Christmas alone in New York.
I saw trans America and she that movie with she
was in trans America. Yeah, do you remember she goes
I don't even remember what it was, like a sex
Way party or a Tupperware party.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
She's like the hostess of that party.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And then I saw her on Taylor Max five hour
The Lilies Revenge at Your Art Center.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I was like, she played a cuckoo clock and I
was like, who is she?

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Diva? Dibbs dibbs mine? Wow? I sorry to ask the
most basic No, I have only base Please why Mary Todd?
I just really feel like women like I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know. I really don't remember.

(23:51):
Because I had the idea in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Really whoa And it was basically like.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
An idea that was born out of just the humor
of it, not using like a history buff no, no, no,
no no, I just thought, like the idea of me
playing a historical figure like that, yeah, was was fun. Yeah,
And then all those years later we finally got to

(24:19):
the Lortel.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Are you like, are you like super regimented right now?
Like if you have to perform eight times a week,
are you like.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I really don't do anything besides like, uh yeah, I
mean like sleep and then go to the theater stretch stretch.
I try to eat at four thirty. See after the show,
I try to eat two yeah, yeah, yeah, but if
I'm not up early enough, I only get the one meal.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
It's a difficult life. Here's a ways I don't recommend it.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Do you feel are the endorphins such that after the
shows I'd want to go out?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I know? No, No, I never want to go write
home really yeah, right to bed, hot creamy meal, right
to bed.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Hot creamy meal, all dairy meal, right to bed.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
But I do need a life outside of it, because
otherwise the play can't be my only reason for existing.
So now I'm trying to find things to do. If
you have any suggestions at home, comment below on this
video and like it and subscribe and just send us
email and vote and vote and vote, please vote, vote

(25:33):
for living in your local city elections. They matter, y'all.
Should we do it for a segment? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, right, I think we have Yeah, yeah, if anything, yes,
you please, please please, if anything, to get it out
of the way that we can keep talking for you,
of course.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Okay, Cole.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,
we're going.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
To ask you a series of rapid fire questions.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
It's basically this thing or this other thing you're familiarity
with and complicity and straight culture. The only rule is
you can't ask any followup questions or will scream at you.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Okay. That reminds me of a story I've heard about
Shirley McLain. Later later, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I love these beautiful humans or I hate that ugly
ass tunic.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I love these beautiful humans, Cole.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Curling up with a good book or curling up with
Succession Zone Sarah Snook curling up with a good book.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Tap water is Fine or FAP every day at nine,
FAP every day at night after.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Your all dairy meal, yeah, okay, a body shaped like
an hourglass or a potty molded perfect to your ass. Oh,
body shaped like an hourglass?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
O hmm, respectable?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Giving it up for your next comic, or living it
up before we all get hit by a comic.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Giving it up for your next comic.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah you have to, okay, white gold or black mold.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
White gold.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I demand an appeal or I don't understand her whole deal.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I demand an appeal. Being on the list or lancing officist,
lancing officeist.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have an idea what this is crazy?
I'm like, you know, usually we rate our guest performance
on a scale of zero to one thousand doves. Here's
what I've been feeling recently.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
What have you been feeling? Maybe that scale is over.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Maybe we need to figure out like a new way
to rank I've been feeling. I think, don't you feel
like we've been sort of like, okay, we've done every
version of that answer.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I guess I like it. But you you see, this
is what's great about But by the way, yeah, I
just I can I'm engaged, yes, but I don't have
to worry about having an answer right anyway? Keep okay,
So you just like directed us. Now I feel like,
now we can not keep going. Yeah, no, no, I'm

(28:10):
watching and listening and just talk naturally.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You know, I did the number one thing you shouldn't do,
which is critique, but not come up with an alternative.
It's actually one of my elus life. I am not
and I very much think.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Are you a younger sibling? I'm an older sibling. That's interesting, right,
of course, just like most things about me. I feel
like that's a younger sibling thing.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You think, so, yes, I feel like at some point
in my life I was like criticizing. Criticism is a
sign of intelligence, and the more you criticize, the more
intelligent you are. Yeah, and so you know, you go
into and I think it's a very childish.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Where in your body is that? Sorry, this is only
my therapist asks all the time. And where in the
body in your body do you feel that?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Like it's coming out of my head?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Right? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I always say my stomach, like my stomach.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh, it's all those creamy meals. Creamy meals both show. Yeah,
I'm sorry I cut you. You were going you you
were talking about renovating the scale.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yes, right, Solutions book Alert renovating.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Red Scale Scale, My Life, My Weight Loss Journey, My
Lost Journey on the Stage, Chapter one, Creamy Meals, Creamy
Meals question Mark.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, well I just wanted for the scale. I do
like that it is something that is truly from twenty twenty. Yeah,
and is like that we have stuck with for seemingly
no that sense. It gets funnier as it goes, and.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I think it's funny.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
I think about literally being like four years from now
and still doing that and people are like, what is
that even care?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, yeah, you've won it over. You've already won meal
over beautiful.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Wow? Wow? Could Georgie get cast in? Well it's not musical,
Well we still need to know you have range.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I guess it is Musicalpol no spoilers, but.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
That was a spoiler.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That was a huge spoiler. How do you feel You
can't just say you no spoilers after you spoilers. That's
not how it works.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Do you think of yourself as solutions oriented?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah? I actually like that. Yeah me too. Yeah. No, no, no,
I'm a complainer.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
You're well, but you are a creator And I don't
mean that in the sense of being an lgbt Q
creator making their voice heard. I mean that in the
sense that you do. You're not someone who's like, oh,
they don't want me here, I'm gonna cry about it.
You're like, they don't want me here.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm going to go I'm going to make a better
I'm going to make it better. Yeah. I guess in
that way, Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
I I'm kind of like solutions bass no I am yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think. Well, okay, so that's sort of like fight
flight or freeze, right, yeah, Like, oh, I had never
heard of the phone.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
You've never heard of freeze. I've heard fight a million times.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
You need to get back in the.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Fight flight or freeze.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I love this. I might be freeze. I'm absolutely freeze. Freeze.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh God, to freeze identified gay cancers running a small
business together, good good luck making proper.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I think a lot of people are are freeze.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think freeze.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
It just to me it makes the most sense because
I'm like, well, I'm not gonna run away, but I'm
also not going to start a fight.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
But you don't know what to do. You're like, I
can't fight back.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I'm putting my body on the line by doing nothing.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yes, I will say to you know, if there's multiple
freezes in a room, I think it's sort of you know,
it's like you might both be bottoms, but eventually, when
you're penetrating, someone's going to be topping.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Does this make sense? Yes, yes, yes, but if.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
You aren't and I feel like if we're both freezes,
there many times in our relationship where you have been
the one that is ready to fight.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's true in a good way. That's true.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
And I've gotten to keep my freeze privilege. Freeze.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Wait, but I was this was related to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
where like rather like there's complain, there's offer a solution,
and then there's leave.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Right, I'm I'm more apt to leave. Oh interesting, I'm
more apt to leave as well.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, complain for solution or leap. I'm complain. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
There's just no So if you're like you're you're waiting
for a table for a really long time.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Oh yeah, I'm giving everyone dirty looks. I'm sighing dramatically,
looking at my phone, sort of going over to people's table,
knocking over all their food, calling them really offensive slurs.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yes, yeah yeah, and then and you I'm sort of like,
let's go. Yeah, yeah, or I'm like, it's like.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Like it's finely wait, it's not worth it. It's not
worth it, And I, well, you're less, you're generally less
like willing to wait wait for you prioritize comfort. I
guess what I'm trying to say, Like youise comfort over
like waiting for the exclusive thing. Would you say that? Yeah?
I think that is true, whereas I'm like, let's say
I really want to go. It's humiliating to wait.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh my god, I'm so sad, But you know what
the reward is then getting the table and watching other
people wait and feeling superior to them.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
You bring up a very good that's from my stomach.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I also, I feel like the nice things are like
rarely worth it, Like the pain of waiting.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And waiting pushed around And what was the last thing
you waited for that you were glad that I was glad?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Hmm, god, I have no idea, to be completely honest,
it's been a long time I had to wait in
a line for anything.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
What's the last thing you waited for it was worth it?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
This is the most riveting segment. Let's yeah, let's really
no one.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Has a thing they waited for. Yeah, I guess I
just usually get things for free.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, olive oil gelato?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Is that true? I did wait for it.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I was happy they waited.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Did you really have to humble yourself to wait for something?
You know?

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I also see, you know, in Los Angeles, California.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh my god, to be able to be right back.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I feel that I see a lot of people waiting
in line for random, random stuff. They sort of have
like cronut culture all the time.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
That's sort of all they have.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, And so I'm when I see some people waiting
in line, I'm like, Okay, well that's what I don't want, Like,
I'll never go to that place. It like almost looks
more unappealing because it's like probably just some gimmick or
was like written on some blog or something. You're not
going to trick me.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm actually a free thinker. Yeah, yeah,
that's no. You're right.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, there's two kinds of waiting, and one.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Is like there's only two, yes, male or female exactly,
So what's male waiting? Male waiting? Oh god?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Okay, so I think one is what you're describing crow
nut culture of like waiting for the latest trend.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yourselfsculum.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
But it's also like it's also like blogger, blonde blogger.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Sure, you know, big hat.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Big hat blonde blogger, waiting for the next trend. You
are so trend chasing, you have no personality. Your entire
life is chasing things that other people are doing. That's
one second kind of waiting is that, if you know,
you know, kind of waiting where you're in the know
and you and you're part of this like exclusive you've
read the paywalled blog that's telling you the new thing.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, yeah, well they're both the same thing, though you
think so, and just one of them, one of them.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
You think you're better than.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right, that's it. That's not a bad point, you know.
So I'll tell you which one I prefer to be
in of course, but it's the same thing. We all
just want to be at the at the front of
the line, right, We all want to cut in line,
don't we. We'll be right back and we're back.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
And that was such a convincing we'll be right back.
That was actually terrifying because.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
It felt so real. Yeah. I actually was like, we
need to throw to commercial. Yeah, that's so fun.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I could feel we don't even have headphones on, and I.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Was like, oh, yeah, anyway, how are you really hot?
Creamy meals? When we return? Yeah, starts crying hyaterically. Yeah,
they like, it's just been really hard.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Wait, I wanted to bring I have some topic.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yes, yes, yes, topic, you are like in charge of us. Okay.
It is like, so I was trying to think of
straight things, like straight culture things rights like five cameras.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Oh it's a Samsung Galaxy.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
It literally does have five, So them are flashes. I'm
just like, that is too many.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
You don't know what I'm up to. It looks like
you don't know what i'mout.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
You don't know what I'm up independent films.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
There's there's a poll at JFK Airport that has truly
like fourteen surveillance cameras on it, and it looks like
a commentary on the surveillance state.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's kind of what your phone is. Yeah, stop surveilling us. Well, uh,
do you have anything else to say? You mentioned Taylor
Swift earlier. Do you want to say you're okay? What
are I was thinking? Well, I was thinking about straight
culture things, but I could only really think of examples
of of things that are like straight trying to be

(37:46):
gay like straight things that are influenced by gay culture.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Okay, like hotels.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, based on cruising, but based on based on cruising,
based on piet tears. Yes, it's like, well this is
better because then you can just leave. And it's like,
well that's the you took the fun out of a piano.
Like right, it's straight people, you know. Okay, so hotels,
salad bar, because salad's gay culture, but salad bar. The

(38:16):
salad bar is like.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
But you can pick what you want and you're like,
you're not improving on.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
You wouldn't I mean whatever? I go on, Ye, baby carrots, right,
it's like, isn't it so funny that they're like little?

Speaker 4 (38:28):
And you're like, oh, that's almost.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Like you've never experienced happiness.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, my favorite thing on earth is to buy baby carrots.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Never ever open the bag.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be such a perfect
snack with hummus, and then I just leave it there
until they get slimy. Yeah, and then I'm moving seven
years later and I'm like, oh, I have to throw
these away now. Yeah, that's such a what.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Are people afraid of with just buying normal carrots?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I would really love to know. Is it the little
hairs that they have?

Speaker 4 (38:56):
It's the little hairs. It's sort of the like, well,
what am I gonna do? Eat a whole carrot?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, who has the time?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
What if I just want to say, you want twenty
five baby carrots?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Well, you can take as many as you want and
you can put it back.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
The big carrot. You got to chop it up. Oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I mean, there's nothing better than feeling chopping up a
carrot and then putting the leftovers in a little ziploc bag.
Something you feel like you're cooking. You feel like you're
doing cottage core.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
No.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
The way that I want every single thing I eat
to be pre cut.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Into this is like not being.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Well, I'm I hate doing dishes.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yes, so I will buy a pre chop. Everyone hates
doing that's so, yes exactly.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Wait wait wait wait sorry George, this is crazy. This
is crazy because I've never been able to talk to
this with anyone.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
But I hate doing dishes so much that I I
will buy the pre chopped done ho much Wow? And
David Sidaris has this thing in a book like that
like his husband Hugh will we'll make like himself a
dinner like for one while he's alone, but he hates

(40:09):
going through He would rather like use his finger than
like dirty a spoon, you know, and I feel the same.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Well, we've I've gotten in some hot water before with
our with our listeners because I talked about how I
used the same cup.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
For this was actually at a live show. I don't
think you've ever thought, wait, what do you mean like
I have a water glass, yes, and you keep it
by the sink.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I just that it gasps from the audience because you
said something, you said a phrase, an adjective that I
will never forget.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
What gas gets cloudy eventually cloudy. Yeah, but it's my
glass and it's fine.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
How many days do you think I'm not going to
see I I I probably use the water glass, like
two days. I'll go a little long ago. I'm probably
use three water glasses a day. Why my immune system
is so strong? And yeah, I use one glass.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Were you just in the hospital for the that's not
from the immunity, that's not from an inaction?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Maybe out? Oh my god, I would love it if
you've got to be the out and showed after the studio.
That would be incredible.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
But yeah, I literally like like especially when we were
in our apartment here, and like I would go, I
would like, never wash it, and then I would just
like one day my cup would be missing and I'd
be like, be shure, where the hell is my cup?
And he'd be like, well, I washed it and then
drying rag and I'd be like, I've been looking everywhere
for it. He just surprise washes it. That's that's okay,

(41:44):
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
My shock is like, wait, but it gets cloudy because
it's smudged and like lip and fingerprints.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
All whatever it and you know my nightly fiber.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Wait, this is the other thing that wait, you literally
put fiber in it, mix it and then keeping water
out of it without.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Reeah, water soluble, it gets it dissolves. You guys are
being so messed up.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I'm an audience of three hundred and fifty people at
the Mellhouse all walked out.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Well, George, it was in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, so
get your facts right because facts matter.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Well, I'm sorry for making you feel insecure again.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Although it actually feels like you've never been more proud
of yourself. Well, I just you know, I know how
the media is gonna run with this.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
How how often do you do dishes?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Oh? Once a week?

Speaker 4 (42:41):
Same when I'm like living alone, Yeah, I once a week,
do them quite rarely.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, me too. Sometimes things really start to smell that
in my sink.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, I'll also like, if I'm doing like takeout lifestyle,
I like, I'm like, well, I didn't use a dish,
it won't take out lesle.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
But then but then you know, a little seriou a dessert.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh of course, I'm literally turning into like Trey's mom
from Sex in the City. I'm about to send both
of you to what is it called.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Manners Manners Academy?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Manners manner, Yeah, Manner's manner.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Okay, so we have baby carrots, we have hotels, and
what was the third one? Old?

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Please salad bar salad bar salad bar.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Okay to me, I would like to unpack hotels a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, okay, okay, because you're staying in one now actually
that's true.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Oh my god, because I have a subletter now yeah, yeah,
shout out to my beautiful subletters. And I'm staying in
the pod Hotel Eliasburg. There's not a blind on one
of the windows and it's like facing the street. This
is not part of the point. I'm just sort of
painting a picture. Okay, I'll see it. And it's also

(43:52):
like the rooms like whatever. I'm just like people in
the street are seeming naked anyway, who cares, who cares?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Whatever? Lower East Side nineteen seventy nine. Don't tell people
where it is.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Oh well it's on Metropolitan and.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Okay, yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, you won't be
there anywhere. I'll be gone by the time this comes out.
You'll be back. That's great. So you don't think hotels
are I think they're I think they're straight inspired by gay.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I think the straightness comes from the like sanitization of them.
Sure where it's like every room is the same, but
there's convenient. It's convenience and you can come and then
you can you can leave.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, make it easy, don't.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Offend, like everything's like this is technically a decoration, but
it's not. You can cheat on your wife here exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Well, it's based on gay because it's like a straight
structure is a family home, a family suburban home, and
then anything the farther away from that you get the
gay or you get so a hotel. You are unmoored
from your biological family. You are in fact not in
your hometown. You are a visitor tran Insians.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
And then also like concierge, like that's being like we
need a gay guy to tell us where to go
totally where's good to get Italian? A little queer where yeah,
where should we're good to get Italian? He's like, oh
my god, they have the best catch up down the
street exactly. Oh, here's what you're going to want to do.
You're going to want to go uptown by yourself. And

(45:25):
then they like walk out the door and the duds
like you hear the boy.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Like, we do not have that at our house back
in Batesville.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Batesville a small town, nexic goon town had great girl.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
So yes, and then I also think the thing that
makes the tael straight is business conference culture kind of
because uh, conferences and business trips are sort of like
the the life cruising of straight. Yes, yeah, like there
is something. It's sort of like take sexual liberation and

(46:09):
make it depressing, and it's like two people wearing like
a woman in a skirtsuit and a man who has
like untucked get this his dress shirt and they are
flirting at the little open bar, and when I say open,
you got one drink for fan after.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
That, and you have to present like your little ticket
to go. We're talking lanyard, lanyard, We're talking lanyard, We're
talking salad bar, We're talking baby carrots on dispaby carrots
wow display.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah, that type of environment, unfortunately, still speaks to me.
So I'm sure I wish I could be.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
I love hotel.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Look, I love hotels. You more than anyone, more than anyone.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
I love hotel.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
The amount you hate dishes is the amount you love.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
I mean, of course, the dream is like not paying,
Like if someone could pay for me to stay at
a hotel, Yes, and I got room, serve everything for free. Yeah,
you just you don't have to. You don't have any
of the responsibilities of your normal life.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Yeah, do our boutique hotels LGBTQ plus.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I mean this is complicated because boutik hotels are sort
of like anything that is kind of like gentrification adjacent.
It's like it starts how gay and then it becomes straight.
That's just for the circle of life. Yeah, it's like
saying like our I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Boutique hotels were like gay people trying to pull it back, Yeah, exactly,
and then straight people were like this is sorry. Yeah,
They're like sorry you putting here? Yeah? Yeah. And also
I'm secretly Mormon. Maybe not. Don't you think that is
like a circle. It's like that you get gay gay
gay gay gay, and then you go right back to

(47:46):
mommy blogger. Yes, but aesthetically yeah, ooh, so what do
you think the next hm mommy is mommy blogger the
new aesthetic? I mean I sort of think are you
going to be seeing that on the runway? They are
let's talk let's let's talk fashion, Let's talk fall fashion.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Finally, what are we going to be seeing? We're seeing
We're singing mommyl baby carrot, baby vehicles, hybrid.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Vehicles, salad bar.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
We're seeing tongs from the salad bar. We are cameras everywhere, everywhere.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Where.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
It's commentary on surveillance, baby carrot, earrings, no clothes, walk,
bitch walk and read this.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Kindle walk.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
And a big make it makes sense in the sign
that yeah, everyone.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
In America makes sense again.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Everyone holding fake protest signs like in the Kendle commercial,
but they all say different.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Internet slang terms.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
If someone's holding a science says blur, someone holding a
sign that says the interwebs.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Huh wow yeah hashtag me thinks.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I think someone uh painted in blood the methinks movements
over on their bare chest.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, so what's something? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:11):
What what's like what we're gonna see on the runway?

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Well, like this, for example, what's so straight it's going
to be attacking me? No, I'm not attacking you. I'm
merely suggesting maybe it's time for you to be attacked that.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
So, yeah, what's not what's to appropriate from straight people?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yes, Corla is playing into Sam's camo.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
You know what I think it is actually what old
Navy core, Old Navy core.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Is going to be now gay. Yeah. So you mean
ill fitting jeans and like pol do you remember that, yes, performance,
old Navy performance.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
And god the ninetieth Could you see the like little
like a fourth of July T shirt that's like too small?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Hmm, Wait what do you mean fourth of July T shirt?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Like America Old Navy always would put out like a
yearly fourth of July. Oh, I've never oh, I would
wait every day on the third of July.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Just it was It's like when they announced the met Golf,
I was like, what's this year's old? Maybe fourth of July?
T O, my god, A little like plastic flip flop?
Oh put that on the right babys, beanie babies.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I don't know what do you think straight people are
going to or gave people are gonna.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Okay, no, this is actually a really good question. I mean,
do you think it's been long enough flip flop wise
that Havayana's are going to make an iron What the
hell is that? The plastic rubber flip flops with the
Brazilian flag on them?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
You know?

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Sure, wait with the Brazilian flag. Yeah, that's the one
with the X. And then yeah, wait is this not
have I never heard of this? I'm showing everyone maybe
in Greece, Yeah, maybe it didn't make it over here. Yeah,
oh this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Oh so amazing that we're different differently. But what I
love that, George, is like talking with yourselves and then
we got.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Completely these No, these mean nothing.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
To you, They mean absolutely nothing to me.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
They mean nothing to me.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Is I've never I've never seen that woman in my life.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I don't know her, and I don't claim to know her.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Well, maybe they were completely euro and now Americans are
going to discover them warehouse men.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Are we going to start going there? I actually, I
mean I think there's a world in which like sort
of a nineties businessman's suit comes back.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I think that's already ready back.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I think, in fact, the issue is at some point
it's going to go back to skinny pant and.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I, oh, are we? Are we going back?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Because trends are so quick. Now you know, you think
you're safe.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
You think you're safe The second I buy a pair
of shoes their last season, toss them right in the garbage.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
The moment I get home, remember how I legally blonde?
It literally it hinged is on the gay guy being like,
don't you you know, tap your last season produt shoes
at me?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
And then she's like, last season product, last season product.
He's gay?

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
It's a very my cousin Vinnie, Yeah yeah yeah. But
they're queering that we've we've been through the Sopranos. Yeah,
what's the show girls? Okay, here's something.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
What if it is like guy news radio, gay guys
growing out their hair and having big blowouts, growing out
there yeah, like they literally have Christian woman at the blowout.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
This is what's something that John really calls TV hair
where it's like, yes, it goes down, then yeah, it's
Deborah mess down and then like five curls in front
and every woman on television has that hair. So maybe
the issue maybe like next.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Year, are three of us going to be here with that?
What if?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I don't know. I do think that is kind of
the last friend here is more when we return, sorry,
and we're back, and we're back, and more when we
return because gay guys welcome back.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
It's the only hairstyle gay guys haven't tried is long
beach waves.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Long beachways.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, that could be something.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I don't think that could be. No, no, I can't,
I can't follow.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well, that's why it's so, that's why this is This
is where innovation is born. Is you think, oh, I
can't picture that at all, and then lo and behold
all of a sudden, Oh crocs. I get it, it's ironic.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
But they're like, I think it's just going to be
too hard for the upkeep, the upkeep to commit to
growing your hair out. I think you know, you know,
the gay guy lifestyle so go, go, go, you.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Know, and they just want something that's easy, messy buns
that we've we've already done done.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Wow, it's crazy that we can't think of a single
thing that's going to be a new gay gay trend.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Somebody's got to think of one. Cole Well, my prediction.
My prediction was sideburns.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Remember I said, the new facial hair trend.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
It's the only one we have for a wig.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
But yeah, I had. I had huge sideburns in high school.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Oh yeah, and blue black hair. Oh yeah, that must
have been pretty. I was pretty out there.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
I was willing to go there as a kid, you know,
like I took those risks.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Do you find yourself slipping into that at as you're
like doing promo for the show?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
No, no, only like that character and generally like the
cliches of being interviewed, just being like, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Knew I was fun because no one else would would
know that I was kidding.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I see here amongst family.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Dare I say, and you don't want to take the
risk of someone thinking or being earnest?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
No? Absolutely, Wait, I just realized. I went to the
Sistine Chapel a year ago. Okay, to pray more on
that later, but it was I thought it was so ugly. Really,
oh because they you know, they take they cleaned it
in the nineties. Yeah. Oh, and the colors of its

(55:28):
modern well no, it's like nineties Italian, like New Jersey
Italian restaurant. Oh, because it's too right, it's so bright and.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Like and that's why I never watched my cup And
this is why.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
And I realized, like, oh, that's where that aesthetic came
from from, like nineties Italian restaurants, because the Sistine Chapel
had just been cleaned and it was like exciting, and
so then everyone was like, let's do that in our restaurant.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Nineties Italian restaurants are based on the Sistine Chapel.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
That makes sense to me. That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
It certainly is based on good morning, Wake Wake up America.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
I hope you're listening. Take notes, take notes. Okay, wow, wow,
this is what happens when you sleep. So when you
go there and you're like, this is ugly, you know
what did that feel like for you? Were you like,
you know what, good because the church has enough as
it is, or were you like, damn, I was really
hoping to be moved today.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I was really hoping to be moved. And I'll be honest.
My friend Claudia Odaugherty, who I was there with, fell
asleep in the Steam Chapel.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I fell asleep in the Systeine Chapel. It was it
was a long you just like tore you sit down,
you can sit down, you can sit down. And it
was this long hour's long tour.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
It was so hot and we.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Were just like okay, okay, yes, all this stuff, all
this stuff, we just want to see that damn roof
you're ceiling, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
And we got there and it was so like warm,
and you fell asleep and then you're like okay, yeah.
Literally we had eaten like six hot creamy meals and
just like full of cheese. It's like a marathon.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
People were just handing you cups of warm warm.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah. Well that's too bad. Yeah, it's okay. I just
wanted to And it is tough. That is something up.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
When you build something up and then you're disappointed by it.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
You know. Any notes for the Sistine Chapel workers, keep
it dirty. Stop scrubbing it, because they left a little
patch dirty to show you, like, and this is what
it looked like, and I was like, yes, the agent,
it was the filter that it needed. Yeah, a Valencia filter,
Yes it was. Which filter would I say it was?

(57:37):
Oh my god, oh my god? Okay, I would say
new York. Honestly, put the New York filter on this chapel.
It'll really really be better. I know it sounds crazy,
but it's time.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I've only lived here for three years, but I do
actually feel like a New York like to get a
ninety nine cents light. I'm like, okay, to be fair,
she's right.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, I feel my family has never visited, and I
don't ever want them to because when I see people
with their families, like on the train or like walking around,
it's painful. No, it makes me so angry actually, or
it makes me it makes my heart hurt. Yeah, because

(58:24):
the you're immediately a child when you're showing your parents
the city and you're like, this.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Is my city, mom, look like we like, I just
like eat here every day and it's really well.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Also, it makes you to show your surroundings to anyone
really puts into focus how like uninteresting most daily lives are.
It's like you're showing someone.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
The coffee shop where you get your coffee. Yeah, like
they have a really good cortado here. I like, and
your mom's like, my niece, can I can I sit here?
My knees backed an up, and.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
They're like.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Like, mom, you know my friends never sit. Never sit.
You don't sit in New York, Mama. I like my parents.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
The first time they visited was like I was maybe
twenty five or something, and I like, in retrospect, I'm
so embarrassed by the places that I was like, you
have to see.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
This, yeah, because it was just like smack, It's like
all macaroni and cheese restaurant and like being like, no,
this bar is really cool. Yeah, and it's like why
would they ever want a bar? They like dive. It
just has the same feeling of like parents' weekend. I mean,
there's a specific night I went to college, but I

(59:39):
understand there there's still time. There's still there's still time
I get that degree. Yeah, how would you cancel that?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Artistic shows there is of course, nothing more moving in
terms of storylines than older women going back to Oh
my god.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
I mean this is not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
But Margot Martindale in Paris, tim you know, going on
that trip to Paris by herself. Oh my god, I
don't remember that one I have seen. She's an older woman. Well,
she's a woman of a certain age. She's a male
carrier at home, and she's started taking French classes late
in life. And then she goes she's always wanted to
go to Paris. I'm gonna cry, you know what, I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
George, I feel that an apology for what because when
Cole says, you know, in whatever, I say, beautiful, but
if you were to bring it up first, I would go, okay, okayens.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
And that is like to me, it's such a sort
of like almost embarrassing part of like it's like I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Only know Margot Martindale's part. Yeah I've only seen that
one clip.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Yeah, okay, I've only seen that one clip. I don't
know it, like I'm not like watching it, like I've
never watched.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Like is like, mommy blogger, I think it's that movie. Yeah,
that's why I think it's Thatsia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Town, which we don't like, but we do know, like
John Galliano being like it was inspired by.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Margot Mark Yeah yeah, well yeah, so carrot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Baby carrots, baby carrots or hotels or hotels. No, we're
doing hotels.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
We're doing hotels. Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
All right, we've covered conferences, we've covered cruising, we've covered
home away from home, cat a tear.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
We haven't cover the gay guy telling you where to go,
the g guy telling you. Have covered the literal straight
couple going to a hotel and instantly feeling like they're
being sordid and kinky because they're not in their house.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Well, and then of course the disappointment that comes after
that of wherever you go there you are wow looking around.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Wow, I guess we're actually not happy. By the way,
can we talk about the Bible litter in every room? Yeah? Wait,
why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
That's why they started bautique hotels so they could put
in a different but they were like Sally Rooney, Yeah,
the Bible is I always think it's sort of charming
that there are these leftover like Bible in a hotel room.
To me is very like leftover from a different era
in a way that I do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
When men held the door men help, I think we're
going to be seeing men holding the door open for
you on the runway this season.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
We're going to see men.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
The door open around the corner. Clean Chapel ceilings clean,
just guys being guys being guys, falling asleep in a
stunning tourist destination.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Yeah, I think this is obvious. I feel the the
thing that gay people are gonna appropriate is Bible chain
hotel Hilton. I think boutique hotels as like a fantasy
is dead. It's like we are post Instagram. This goes
along with me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Now, I'm like, if I'm ever on a red carpet,
I'm gonna wear a dress made up. You know that
credit card dress. Yes, Hilton honors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Car also gig chic gay guys like that work in fashion.
Getting married ironically in a Hilton, I mean, I mean
like overhead lighting Hiltons.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
There's something chic about that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Yeah. Terrible carpet, Like the carpet is so old.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Yeah, what are those called?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
The like the the buffet, like the hot hot bar,
the hot bars like with those little torches.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, like chic gay guy wedding. And the food is
a hot bar with like little sausage.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Links, sausage links.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Meal, it's breakfast, it's breakfast for dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
It's breakfast for dinner, hard scrambled eggs, sausage link.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Wedding wedding donuts meal with all the fixes, raisins, brown sugars,
one serving fruit loops that you take off the little
cover and but but instead of fruit loops, it's like
the couples, like you know, like the little wedding rings
Jared and and Emery or whatever their name is. And

(01:04:16):
it's it's funny because it's like fruit loops. Yeah, it's
that's hilarious. I'm laughing. They talk about blur it's bring
your kids, bring your kids, which is yeah, that's bold,
that's bold.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
I think that we're going to be this season on
the right, We're going to see.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Bringing kids fruit loops, but they're gay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Yes, the name Emory, Yeah, the name Memory is everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, Hilton honors dirty carpet.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
But I do think there's something to this because, like
you know, we've talked about the how we're in the
Martini and mush peas era, and I think the next
step of like what is gross that we can just
pretend isn't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
It's that's because I tell food culture.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yes, I that's definitely one direction for the modern man.
I almost think we've now gone so far into like
appropriating trashy stuff direction. That being a full on pretentious,
little pinky finger up gay guy is gonna come back.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
But I think with with a with a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
With an eye towards like like remember those commercial I
keep seeing these on the algorithm, the like Vienna coffee,
like the little powdered Do you know what I'm talking about?
The little coffee that comes in like instant coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
No, wait, hold on, is this your version of whatever
that sandal was? Oh my god, Oh I'm not you know,
we're all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Living in our social media bubbles. Yeah, I'm thinking like, uh,
like stuff that was marketed as fancy that you know,
like the you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
You know what's a great example of this is the cheese,
like the you know those round red cheeses.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Baby Bill? Is that? Yeah? Yeah yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Don't you feel like that was at some point market
it is like fancy?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, now we know. It's like Briars
ice cream was very like like Bernadette Peters and the commercials,
like I guess basically it's certification. It's sort of wasp
Upper East Side wasp culture that you can get at
the super you can get the supermarket. Yeah, sure, like
v like what was that ice cream? Cake. Do you
know what I mean? That had like ribbons. It was

(01:06:34):
like ribbons of ice cream. God, now aging myself here,
I'm aging myself here. We're gonna this season on the Runway,
aging yourself yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
I also think no more minimal minimalist flatware.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
And uh, I see what you're saying. You're it's sort
of capodim Swans.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Yes, it's this season on the Runway.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Swans, no flat no simp at the supermarket.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Capodian is one that's at the supermarket in your ice
cream y yeah, or like the fancy like TV Dinners.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Was like you know, I know, like like that was like, uh,
like that's what That's what we're going to see on
the right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I mean, it's them from a conservatism because it's literally
like when America, you know, in the public imagination when
America was great was mad Men era.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Well, but this is I'm even thinking of the nineties
when those things.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
That's sort of they've tried that so many times and
it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I love jello salad though, really love it it, love
the taste. Is that true? Yes, it's just Jello and
this one of your characters. It's Jello and cool whip.
I have a disgusting sweet tooth.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Really, I love ambrosia salad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Oh, this is on the run. We ambrosa fruit cocktail
with uh cool whip basically whoa and and sometimes marshmallows
and try a coconut. Some people would do like pistachio
pudding packet, like the powder from the put putting packet.
Mix it in. You know, it's always in pustachios. These

(01:08:15):
foods are giving. You've got me there, they're giving Grandma.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
I love Grandma.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Shout out to grandma. Yeah, well look, yeah, we've figured
it out so pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Co Where can people buy tickets to your play? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Oh Mary, ohmaryplay dot com for the last week. Yeah,
May fifth through twelfth and May twelfth, must and must
and May twelfth.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
To be candid, this episode will come out when it's
already sold out most likely.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Well, that's true, and that you don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Okay, that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
But maybe there will be one ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
There will be one ticket left. D m us. No,
please don't know just yet.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I can text call. We'll figure it out. We'll figure
it out. Text call, we'll figure it out. If you listen,
to this podcasts. You can get it getting there for free.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Yeah, absolutely, and that's a stradio promise call.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Do you think theater is too expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Yes, but say that, but it's also expensive to make.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Oh okay, all right, okay, well considered, I don't know
how how they do it in London?

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Then they don't pay people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Well do they pay people in New York? They not?

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
From what I've heard, it depends on these damn unions.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Oh my god, don't get me started. The government help well,
I do think Well, the government subsidize in in in
more in Europe and was funded by the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Correct are we talking about that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Because like, from what I remember, it was a government.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Why is it wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Like it's not and you said you wanted to change
it from the ins what I understand?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yeah? Like how's that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Like? Like she's willing to listen. She gave you a
lot of notes on the early versions of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, she did. It was she has a great eye.
She has a great eye. She's like she doesn't no
matter what your politics are.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Funny yeah, funny. People forget that about Ivanka. She's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
She'll always she's like burg like between every scene she's
like blurg and like, okay, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Yeah, I did notice the blurg in your play, and
I thought it felt it fell out of place, but
it also felt that that was a Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
The rest of it had a very specific tone I
recognize as quintessentially cool.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Then there was that big monologue that so I guess
I'm an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, there was a sort of you kept saying, should
I get bangs?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
That was the punch that was okay, maybe that's a premise.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Yeah, I mean, I'll never forget when Abe got shot
in your play and you make it make it makes sense,
it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yeah, and then yeah, and then you're like, all right,
well the moment's landed. Next scene starts, you go, So
I guess that happened, I said, I said, okay, like
some of this could have.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Been very long, but it gets laughs every look the
audience doesn't. Isn't wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Oh look, I wish it were uh much much cheaper
to see theater. But I didn't understand the economics of
like if a show costs something and there are only
so many seats. Well, of course I didn't realize, like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
No, for the issue is not yes, The issue is
that none of it is subsidized by the government like
in other countries. It's not that like people are evil
and want to rob you blind, right, although I do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
You know, this is my first ten million that I'm
making from this.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Right right, congrats on that, by the Yeah yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Off Broadway is where you go to like cash cash in,
Like I've worked hard, you put in the time, I've
put in the time. I'm ready for that summer house.
I'm ready for like like first class tickets, and like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Knowing that about yourself is like a huge part.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
It's a huge part of Off Broadway.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Because like a lot of people like just don't even
have the like they're like afraid of that success absolutely,
and you're just like running towards those people go to Broadway.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
So sad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I feel bad for them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I do too. Losers. Who's the biggest loser on Broadway? Yeah,
who's the biggest loser on Probably audiences? Tim Tim Tim
Tim gun is the biggest loser on broad Oh my god, yeah,
like so wrong as roxy, Like just yeah, the name

(01:12:52):
on everybody's design, the name on everybody's lips is gonna
be rock. It's really okay this season on the runway.
We're seeing Tim gun Tim, We're walking this season on
the runway. We're seeing Tim Gunn walking as roxy. I'm

(01:13:13):
giddy about that. I'm giddy about that's a great well.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Maybe this is my oh Mary, oh Tim Tim. That
would actually be sort of a good idea. Tim Gunn,
you know, everyone loves him, America's most beloved sort of
father figure. But then there's so much happening behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Are we where's that phantom thread? Yeah? Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
You know, I have to say about Tim Gunn to
be serious for a second. With all these gay guys
that sort of transcended and became, you know, almost like
symbols from Middle America, he really has it, more so
than any of the queer eye guys. More like, I
really do have a deep respect for Tim Gunn.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Do you do You not? No? I think you're right.
You like, there's something actually very dignified about him.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Well, he has a he knows when to pull away, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
And he's also you can tell he's actually he knows
when to pull.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Out, which is before you he.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Doesn't you heard it here first. This worries me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
After he comes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
This is my impression of Tim Gun after he comes
this worries more your grandma. Yeah. This season on the Runway,
pulling Out, we're gonna see pulling Out. We're going to
see Tim Gun is a Roxy. We're going to see
Tim Gunhilton Honors.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Okay, Oh, Mary is a huge no no, this is
a no no no, it's not. It's not it's not
barely a one person show, oh Mary. Okay, Tom Broadway
for twenty five years. At this point, you're long, you know,
you're you're living in Malibu whatever. If they've started stunt
casting it like Roxy, who is your ideal like like

(01:15:03):
reality star, trashy star stunt cast for I don't watch,
but but you know it can be back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
I understand it can be like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Okay, okay, okay, okay. Rachel Ray, that was the first
thing that came to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Wouldn't she perfect like a rasping boys Abram, you know, wow,
Rachel Ray, that would be so amazing. She would do
it in those curls. Yeah. Did you see her episode
of the Curse. Yeah, the Curse, she's literally she plays
herself in a very no no before Yeah, no, I

(01:15:36):
think it is. This season on the Runway, we're seeing
Rachel Ray and Rachel Ray as herself on the HBO's
The Curse Showtime. Showtime, Yeah, Showtime.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Sorry, excuse me, sorry, It's okay, it's Showtime back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
I don't know. I don't know if any of them
about its Showtime back? Yeah, are any of them? I'm
talking to the exacts right, Oh? Sorry, I think Showtime's
definitely back. I would love to work with them. Oh,
we would love to work with Showtime of course. However,
only if they're back. Only if they're back. I want

(01:16:13):
we go into pitch. We're like, I want you to
prove that you're back before you hear this pitch. Are
you guys back?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Because I'm not saying the numbers don't really speak for themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Tim Gunn and Rachel Ray Green like that should have
been what it was. It should have been, Tim Gunn
and Rachel you actually are so right in the sense
that it should have been a loud like party girl,
loud party girl, raspy voice, and then like an a

(01:16:45):
guy with trauma. Yeah, like Tim Gunn is who the
character of Will is? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
But then you know NBC got involved and said, well,
let's not make a two let's make him a lawyer. Yeah, exactly,
designer Rachel Ray.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Now, Rachel, what exactly is this? Well, Tim, it's a
jealous sald I mean the pilot writes a yeah, last,
what do you mean extra virgin? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Tim is like, honey, I'm an extra virgin. Wait no,
and I'm becoming Samantha.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Should we do our final segment? Wait? Call any last
thoughts on hotels or baby carrots salad bar I just
I really appreciate you filling out why hotels are straight.
I appreciate it because.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
I came in with an idea and I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I just didn't hold water. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
Yeah, that's so hard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It's really hard, and we put our guests through hell,
but we do it for you. Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
So you can promote that last week of Oh Mary
of Oh Mary ohmaryplay dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
I just checked zero tickets for that week. Zero. Well,
there's student rush or not student rush, just rush rush.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
We took a student out because anyone can rush.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Any anyone can rush, not just students, not just This
is what I tell people all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
It's like you never stop learning and you never stop rushing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Yeah, exactly, exactly we're always on our phones, so true, Rachel. Okay,
well will you introduce it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Our final segment is called Shoutouts, and in this segment
we pay homage to the classic straight tradition of the
radio shout out. Think Z one hundred. You're shouting out
to your squad back home, thank TRL and you know
it's in the great tradition of this podcast we think
of them on the spot. So I'm trying to think
of mine now I have one.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Okay, oh, okay, what's up freak losers and perverts around
the globe? I want to give a huge shut up
to Hotel TV. I love the lack of choice and
a Hotel TV offers me. I think there's too much
choice in the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
World, and sometimes you just want something to be like
watch this because you have to you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
That's talk about the only way I'll find something randomly
and without having it perfectly curated to my likes and wants.
Last night, I, for the first time in my entire life,
watched an episode.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Of King of Queens.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
I would never seek the show out, no matter how
much Robbie Hoffman says it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
And I watched one episode and I said, yeah, I mean,
I'm not gonna watch more, but I enjoyed this twenty minutes.
And sometimes that's all you need when you are traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
So Hotel TV.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
You make me feel like it's the nine these You
make me feel like I'm being tied down and forced
to watch something I don't necessarily want to, and you
make me feel free through that restriction.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
That's beautiful. How was King of Queen's really good? Really?

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
It was fine, right, I mean it was like Lea
REMONI I guess right, well, yeah, sort of the best
you can hope for. I was friends with. I was
pretty good. Yes, she is, she is, but you're close.
Oh you didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
They're like like, oh yeah, I know, they're like the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
It's kind of like them.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Isn't there one more that's like in the group?

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Who is it? Yes? But I don't remember. I was good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Say it's like Michelle, Michelle, Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Is that true? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Yes, yes, yes, But it's like how Madonna and Debbie
Mays are are really close friends meaning no meaning no no,
no no meaning yeah they're huge lesbian.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Oh no, they're not saphic saffic in it. So they
are aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
They're not saffic. No, she has a hot Italian husband,
Debbie does. And Madonna. You know, she's working through.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
A lot of issues, but she's doing great on and
we support her, and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
We support her. I would die supporting her. Okay, y'all yeah,
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Okay, Okay, I'm gonna do mine. I've actually already mentioned
this on a Patroon episode. But you know what this,
I'm gonna unpay Wallet for this episode exclusively. What's up
frequent travelers, any Delta sky Mild members, Hilton Rewards. You're
gonna want to hear this. If you're ever on Adelta flight,
I have the plane movie for you. It's called She
Came to Me, and it is starring Marissa to May

(01:21:42):
as a tug boat captain with a sex addiction. I repeat,
a tug boat captain with a sex addiction. You're wondering,
is that like a comedic bit?

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Is it ironic?

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Nope, tug boat captain. I repeat, tugboat captain with a
sex addiction. And if you think it stops there, you
better believe. It also stars Anne Hathaway as a therapist
who wants to be a nun, and one of her
patients is Chris Gethered. Now this movie came out, I
would say last year. Not a single soul has talked
about it. Written and directed by Rebeca Miller, Arthur Miller's daughter.
I am telling you, get on a plane, now, book

(01:22:11):
a flight, impress play on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
She came to me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
The message of the film is love wins. And by
the end I was moved. Shout out everyone involved.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Wow they only let you watch it on a plane.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Yes, I don't. I haven't seen it available anywhere else.
I think the Millerists Arthur Miller estate has a special
contract with the Delta Airlines where his daughter makes movies
for the Delta plus a platform.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Actually wow, yeah, well that's huge. Yes, nothing I said
is a line. I'll watch it on the Delta flight
back to Alert.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
I think it's crazy that that movie exists, as I
just describe it, and like it hasn't become like a meme.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
I mean, but there's so much. It's actually so sad
because you know that like that's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
What they were almost hoping for.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yeah, or maybe they weren't. No, I don't think they were. Yeah,
when they should have, because then it would have gotten
been bigger you know, yes, they needed a gay guy.
They needed a concierge. Oh is he a concierge, baby boy? Gay,
baby boy. Yeah. He recommended a few restaurants to me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
Let's just say, let's just say he got us a reservation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
So he recommended the Fennel Cell. Okay, I think, okay,
what's up, moms and dads. It's your girl here who
sets her alarm clock for six am? And I'm would
like to shout out Dove chocolate. Dove chocolate a little treat.

(01:23:41):
It's it's a little more expensive then you're gonna but
then you're hershey Bar. But when you want to treat yourself,
go for Dove chocolate.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Is that the one that has little inspirational like little quotes?

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Yeah? Do you feel it helps you in your day
to day life.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
To be well?

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
When I was a kid, that was one of those
things that I thought was fancy when I was like,
because it's not, because it's not Hershey's. And also the
commercials worked so well. The commercials were very like the
woman like rewarding herself, like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. The way
that women eat chocolate and media is it's I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Like I'm missing out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
It's done harm for generations. Yeah yeah, it's literally why
we will never have a woman president.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
She could only come. She has a little cube of
chocolate in her mouth. And it's just because this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Season on the Runway a woman with a little cube
of chocolate, And it's just because straight men want to
see women come totally, and they're just like, what if
the chocolate did it for her? Because she likes to
take so much. Yeah, she's such a bitch all day
and then she puts that little square chocolate in her
mouth and she just fucking calmbs like, yeah, how about that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
I feel like it's almost like the opposite where it's
women being like, well, he's not gonna make me come,
so I need something to make me.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Yeah. So is it a female empowerment or disempowerment? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Is this question more? When we return?

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Yeah, all right, and we'll see you next time, see
you next time after the break that could be many years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
All right, Well, thanks for doing the pod. Please, thank
you for promoting the last week of Oh Mary playing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yeah so go on omarpay dot com and Rachel Ray
get in Touch girl.

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