"Doing Stuff" w/ Tessa Belle

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who do you who?

Speaker 2 (00:00):
This is a quick announcement to say that we Sam
Taggart and George Severs are going on a stand up tour.
That's right, a stand up tour, no podcasting allowed this
summer and fall.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's called Sam and George stand Up Tour. It rhymes
kind of, and we're going to Chicago, Philly, DC, Boston, Toronto,
San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And maybe more locations TBD TV. Let's just say we're
looking into it. And sometimes that has worked for us
in the past, and sometimes it hasn't.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
But folks come see us split an hour stand up
and we're so excited to see you.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
We're so excited. And you can get tickets at linktree
dot com slash stradio Lab. That's linktree dot com, slash
stradio Lab.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Enjoy the app podcast starts now, what's up everyone? You

(01:11):
are listening to Stradia Lab by Coastally mind you.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I love how every time when we introduced the episode,
the first thing you say is where we are. I've
decided you either say by coastally or if I've.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Decided saying that is important so that people understand emotionally
where we're.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
At no I completely agree, and I want to just
specify one more thing, which is currently Sam's on a
big screen and the vibe is like in the Bitch
I'm Madonna video where despite the fact that Madonna was
able to get so many celebs in one room for
the video, the one selib she couldn't actually get to
show up was the featured artist, Nicki Minaj. So when

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it's time for Nicki Minaj's verse, Madonna has to hold
a flat screen television while dancing.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Can you imagine being Nicki Minaj and being like, ugh,
Madonna's calling again. She wants me to do this thing
like and you just have to be like, well, I
can't make her mad at me, but I really don't
want to go.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
There is something about that song, yeah, that is really
indescribable in that it is both incredibly important and a
list like it's important because it is a Sophie producer
of course, for example, like that is crazy. It is
a Sophie produced Madonna song. It features every possible celebrity,
including literally Beyonce. But then on the other hand, there
is something so completely flop and dalist about it.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, it's one of those songs that is so sort
of wild and left turn and like both like you know,
Sophie produced, but also so empty where you're like that
song should have inspired conspiracy theories that Madonna had died.
I'm I think it's actually a failing on the LGBTQ
plus community that there is not a conspiracy theory that

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that is not Madonna. She died before that and that
was her clone.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I know, you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's like there's too many things both positive and negative
going on on that it actually like immediately prevents you
from having a coherent thought about it. Yeah, and I
sort of think it is similar to our concept of
the sixty percent Rotten Tomatoes movie, like it transcends good
or bad. It's like an onslaught of an onslaught of

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visuals and differing aesthetics. And even by the way, the
title Bitch I'm Madonna was so late for its time,
the idea that it is like badass to say bitch
I'm Madonna, that.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Is something that is from two thousand, well, because it
was well after It's Britney bitch right exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And also she wasn't like having some big comeback or
like clapping back at the haters. No, everyone was like yeah,
like I don't know, you're fine, like competuals on a
dancewer was maybe like seven years ago, like you're still
pretty much in our good grades.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Everybody loves you.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Actually yeah, and then she's like, oh, I'll shout that, ah,
call up Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well, it is complicated when you have a generally defensive
personality but no one's mad at you. That can be really,
really difficult.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And that is actually why Jamila Jamil is my dream
guest for this podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
As someone who is defensive, you feel, yes, don't you think?
I mean, but I think she's kind of earned it.
Like she's just traumatized from being on the internet.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's true, that's true, she's traumatized from and actually she's
one of the few people that were I actually think
victim blaming can be a good thing in terms of
her experience on the internet. I say, you know, yes,
you are the victim and that people are cyber bullying you,
but you are also the one that's like, good morning,
can someone please cyber bully me?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah? Well that's not thing. She's not like born defensive.
She's born like feeling like people should. She has like
low self confidence, and so she gets people on the
internet mad at her, so that she's like, see, yeah,
everyone hates me.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
She also she also does this thing where she's like, Okay,
so we're not allowed to be outspoken anymore, and it's
like right. So the issue with being outspoken is that
by definition, you are inviting criticism. That's the entire thing.
And if you don't want to be outspoken, you're not
going to invite criticism.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, that's true.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Do you consider yourself outspoken?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
This is literally the defining question of my life and
of our and of our careers. I would say you
and yeah, because I think that you and I, despite
the fact that we're probably the most talented comedians, needless
to say, cannot decide if we want to or don't
want to be outspoken. And I'm not talking about politically,
I'm talking more generally. We cannot decide what our relationship

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is to being like, would.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
One hundred percent agree? I can't even decide what my
relationship is to the spotlight as a concept. You know,
there was a point when I was like, of course
I need the spotlight. But over the last five years
I've been very much like well, like, don't look at
me too much.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Also, we were just saying, now, we were in a
room and we were like, wait, we're the most well adjusted,
and that's not good for our career. No, our whole
thing is being well adjusted, and it's one of us.
One of us needs to get divorced in the next
five I think. Otherwise, I think it's in the cards.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I really do know.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Something needs to happen. I don't know. I'm a little
bit like, and here's the other thing. How do we
to go back to Madonna and then we will bring
in our guests? Yeah, how do we how do we
channel being well adjusted into a ray of light rather
than into a boring album?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, I mean you can be too well adjusted. We
can run with that, like we can run towards like
like we can go Neil Patrick Harris mode and be like,
look how perfect our family is, and then that people
will backlash against that in a nice way. So I
think maybe we can just lean into being well adjusted
and claim that we are the most well adjusted people

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on earth. We should get like sort of a you know,
publicist to run with that, get a spread in People
magazine about like finally a comedian that's well as.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
And I'm picturing a profile. Get this the headline, Sam
and George are doing just fine.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
That feels so good. I can hear, I can see it.
I can see the photos.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
In our Yes, it's us in our living room, mid
century modern, and we have our you know, golden lab
and one of us is laughing and one of us
is putting tea in a little.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh, and we're leaning hard. We're leaning on like couches
and chairs. Yes, oh, that's gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And then there's a really bitchy gay guys on Twitter
that are like, cannot stand there, lean.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Tell a gig guy to sit and they do this. Yeah, okay,
that's really good. I think there's a future for us. Okay,
all right, I'm all in. And our Neil Patrick Harris
that's his name, Yeah, that's his name.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
You know when a name is so like down the
line basic that you're like, that can't be real.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Damn, I can't believe you're disrespecting NPA.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Literally, Like I was like, that can't be his real name.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
But that happened to me yesterday. We were talking about
Pedro Pascal, and I was like, wait, did I just
say his name completely wrong? Like, I was like, that
can't be his name. It's so simple.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, I always want to say Pablo Pascal.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh, sure, that's night soon he should consider checking.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
There you go. Should we bring in our guests, Let's
do it, do the honor since you're in the room.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh my god, I've been looking at her this whole time,
but trying not to make eye contact because she was
not allowed to speak. But honestly, this is this is
one of the main gals in New York City. Please
give a warm round of applasta Tessa Belle.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Hi, Hi, I'm so happy. That was so hard to
not talk.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You or I just want to say you're doing such
a good job of laughing, because sometimes guests don't laugh
during the intro.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
No, I'm a lifelong listener and fan. You are you
are five years old? You actually are?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually late for my class.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I'm still hones. I was like taking a set.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Wait, wait, you guys said, oh can I say gay
guys will.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Will literally lean before going to therapy. Woa wow, Tessa.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
We actually have to pay Tessa to lead the charge
to Bullia so that we can develop backlash and then
have a reputation era totally.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, you're a bad boy era.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It's really awkward, Turtle to have to watch you guys
talk and not say anything.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well duh, I mean, okay, say something interesting talent.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, that is difficult. I've been on for two minutes
and literally choke up.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, what is your relationship to online backlas? Not not
not backlash against you? What is your relationship as an
internet user to have you ever participated in an onslaught?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Have you ever I receive hatefulness?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
We know?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh I don't know, tell me, tell.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Me, like five seconds ago, you're like, Jamila's for it.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, you receive, you receive backlash.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, I just sympathize because one time I went viral
one single time on Earth. And now for celebrities, I'm like,
it's actually really hard to be a celebrity, and like
they can hear you, like Tayler sid can hear you,
y'all she's listening.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, no, no, it's true you and you got backlash
because you are kind of beautiful and have long hair.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Definitely, It's like I was a woman and that was
my mistake and it'll never happen again.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Lesson learned.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Okay, but they're making really interesting points in the content.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, they always do.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I never delete because I believe in a free press.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh yes see we.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Actually, oh we're deleting left and right.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
We're deleting left and right.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Actually, I'm like, if someone calls me busted, I'm like,
that's valid, and I'm hulling.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't think. I don't think I would delete comments
that are about my physical appearance.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I do.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I would be similarly that, I'd be like, you know
what this is. It's good for people to know some
people don't think I'm a track and that's okay, humanizes me.
But then if it's human, that's exactly great. And I actually
love being an underdog. But then if someone is commenting
like what you guys said, if someone is commenting like, yeah,
you guys have never supported women on the podcast I'm.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Bleeding woman is like, I don't feel hurt as a woman.
You're gonna go ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I say, I'm not listening. I'm not listening.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Sam, do care about me? Well, we don't get to
hang out like me and George get to hang out.
But you know I'm from LA.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
You're from LA. People don't know I'm from LA, and
it's like you think I'm ugly.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
No, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You don't believe I could be from LA.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm like so at the moment whenever anyone tells me
they're from LA, I'm like, Okay, so your dad is
Bob Iger.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
No, I'm the only person who's not Nepo, and so
like it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, you're kind of like the Him sisters in that way.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Thank you for Well, I'm trying to spread the rumor
that i'm him and I'm one of them.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, there's they're always unveiling new hymes and new hydeides,
and all you have to do is like either look
vaguely facelifted or look vaguely long hair, and you kind
of can be either one.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, I agree. I sometimes see a photo of them
and think it's me.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah. No, same. Wait, but I'm from LA truth okay,
and you're from LA proper.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, like Venice Beach, which is now like Snapchat cafeteria,
but it used to be a really interesting place.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Wow, I think Venice Beach, I have to say, I
think Venice Beach to me is like one of the
few like punk rock places left in Los Angeles. I'm
like it, actually, no, Sam, it actually has maintained. It's
like crazy ethos.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I think it's like tack. It's like tetting, like snapchat sunglasses.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, but you're also but you're also seeing someone like
a white person with dreads that brother.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, like you're seeing my brother.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Wait, so then why did you go New York?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Mode? I do?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think that it's like the like I'm trying to
do a media trained response. Well, it's like I think
you should come up, you should develop your voice in
New York. And now I'm just getting I'm trying to
get famous enough that I can move home. Like I
missed my mom, I missed my dog, and I would
love to book so you can see them again.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Do you not like New York? I love it? I
love New York?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, which is it? What's true?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I'm bye'm bye Okay, it's pride and by.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, So you hate Chicago?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Have you ever even been discribed my hot? I actually
studied abroad in Chicago. I really did.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
When I was in college, I took a semester off
and did improv camp.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I went to improv five days a week. No, literally
I did the work.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, that's huge.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I just want to say not to out you and
we can bleep this, but you were doing that while
enrolled in an Ivy League university, and that makes it
so much worse. You literally worked so hard, You worked
so hard. You come from humble beginnings in Venice Beach.
You literally get into an IV League university and you're saying,
I'm gonna study, brought to do improv.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, I got into ille because my mom bought a building.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
I said that once and somebody was like, oh, thank
you for being honest. A lot of people would lie
about that. And I'm like, okay, so you actually, like
I actually did get into that school.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You're like, I'm lying. I'm a him sister, I'm the
one that did not get any of the money.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
What's I find lying to be complicated? I'm feeling more
and more like people don't understand when things are tongue
in cheek and it's really freaking me out, and I
don't I don't want to done myself down. Of course,
I want to be able to lie at a moment's
notice and have everyone be like, well, we know you're cool,
So you're kidding, of course. But for example, George and
I are on the verge of posting a soon to

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be viral Pride clip that I just know in my
bones is going to go negative viral.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Thought that you guys have forgot to say happy Pride.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I'm sorry, What the fuck are you by? Or are
you not?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
A lot of people ask that question, Yeah, we are
you guys going to fire Wait, you're not gonna answer.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Excuse me?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Are you by or are you not answer the question?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
No? I am by, prove it.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I'm like, okay, So if I kiss you, if I
get somebody who's want a television and.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Somebody exactly no, to answer your question, we are to
answer stereotype perpetuating question. We are not going to Fire
Island this year, but we have both been in the past.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
To me, it's like it's the macala and it's like
I'm linking and building on Fire Island.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
But I'm going to Peetown. You're going to Peto's. So
here's the thing, what would you expect You would expect
me to go to Petown in the summer with Gega Oh,
I'm going to Peetown in October with lesbians.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Deal with it. You contain multitudes.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Literally, you're fucking crazy, fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I want to go to Peatown.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, Petown is actually the dream.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I love going to Fire Island because I'm like air
dropping my fucking spec scripts everywhere.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I'm chasing down Billy I can with a gun totally.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, if you go to Peitown, you can chase down
John Waters. You can chase down John Cameron Mitchell. You
can chase down Dina Martina.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
She doesn't have as much.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Power in the end.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Rosi o' donald's up there all the.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Time, Rosi o'donald. Yes, Oh, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, it's it's who's who I find. I do prefer
Fire Island if we're choosing, which I think we must choose.
But that's just because like there's something about there's too
much town in Peetown, you know, there's too much civilization.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I say, I want not as much of an
I want to be off the grid.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, I love that.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's like the only place to get food is like
the lesbian side of the island.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
WU not be more on the No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, but no, I'm choosing to have like sort of
an unconventional summer, and by that I mean normal and
not go on a gay vacation, which is quite sad,
but we have to be strong and we have to
hold our loved ones close.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
But also that's what you have to do that the
summer you get married. It's like, how I didn't go
on a gay vacation last summer because I got.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Married, And I was worried when I saw you that
you were getting married that this podcast is gonna be.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Canceled because we're both men and well just I was like, well,
this is what we're talking about. We're too well. We
we have to either again, literally, this is what we're
talking about. We actually have to either lean into being
married and get canceled for being assimilationist totally, or we
have to like really go bad boy.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Oh I think you guys should I think you should
go straight? What do you mean like fully like like
date women. It's it's like you have a podcast called
Stradio Lab. You're like, what is like you invented the
I didn't invent it.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I mean I will say sometimes I'll see radio
Lab pop up and I'm like, hello, see something, Yeah,
beef beef beef.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
So okay, you're la forever or you're coming back. It's
very antagonistic between the three of them.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
No, there's something up, like I don't know what because
you're by I don't know what it is. There's something up.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Wait, but Sam, the first you remember the first time
I met you, we were at the gutter.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I do remember because we were on a show
together and I wanted Sam to think it was funny.
So before my set, I was like, I think you're
gonna watch want to watch my set? You might like, wait,
you see And I'm.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Sure you didn't, I think if I remember correctly, I
came in after your set and you came watch to
me and you're like, fuck, Like I wanted you to
see my set, like I want you to like me.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
And I was like okay, And.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I was like, okay, I will say this. Sam, you're
being away for the time period you were away, it's
like you've missed that. Tessa's kind of like a part
of my life.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You're you're just revealing this to me now.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Like Tessa someone I see relatively often. We're friends, we
like gossip. It's like she's not just like an acquaintance.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I'm kind of confused where I'm like, so, why did
you have a guest? Why did you have me as
a guest on this podcast?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why did I mean?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Like absolutely, I'm like, why are you making the joker?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Because George is like, are you not hearing? You should?
We should be teaming up against George right now, because
what's happening is it's like, okay, you can. He's literally
like you're my friend and I'm like, okay, then you've
never mentioned her to me, Like if you're so close.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Didn't want till this is like so I'm being a
child of divorce right now where it's like I'm getting
caught in the crossfire for sure.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well, I have this thing where for people that I've
like gotten close to you since Sam left, I feel
a real like not nostalgia, I don't know what the
word is, but I'm like every time I'm with them,
I'm like, I wish Sam we're here, Like I hate
that I make connections without him.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
No, that's so sweet, you guys.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I feel this way about Esther. I feel like because
there's a new generation of well, in fact, that's there's
my exact age, but there's a new generation of people
that have come into the phrase since.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
You left his all okay, and that's not your fault,
but we always like leave a chair open. Yes, he's
just late, but he's coming you guys, I have to
say something. Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Ever since my beautiful and amazing wedding, I've been like, wait,
I have no friends in LA, like I really am,
like I've been putting in work and trying to hang
out with people hard.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Are you friends with the Dare?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Should of course new York based.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I think he's New York based. Yeah, Sam wishes you
can hang out with the Dare. I think they're texting
him like happy bird.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you think you're not hanging out with the Dare?
You think the Dare isn't my best man at my wedding?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Can I say one grape about that?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
About one?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
One grape politics?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
That's did you say one grape? Because you're drinking a
grape and I speak weird.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
She's having a snare at great.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
It's more about okay and I I love Charlie x
CX and I would love to collab.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I just think it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
No, I need trained and keep going like a red
dot of hears on my friend, keep going. I just
think it's interesting that, like it used to be Judd
Apatow was the comedic cinematic universe, and now it's Charlie
the comedic cinematic Like she's a comedy gate peper. I'm like,
that's interesting, That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Charlie, Charlie XX is the new Judd Appetize, She's the
new Judd.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
She's like every single show it's going to be Charlie's
making it, Charlie's in it, And I'm like, okay, how
do I get my materials to Charlie.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I never knew that I would have to impress Charlie.
I was very heavy just being a fan, like I'm
comfortable with her being cooler.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Than I am. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'm trying to get like these comedic parts and I'm
like competing with Julia Fox.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
No, you're one hundred percent. You are so right. This
is like one of the more genius takes. We have
to blow this up because it's not fair. She's a musician,
she shouldn't begin to get charge.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
This is where I'm like, I'm scared.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Now, but this is all well and also okay, so
Charlie's jod Appatel. The hims are SNL basically their short
form video output is you know, make Stalter level completely.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
So what's the tea. I don't know what we're supposed
to do next thing.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know, Bonnie Vera is gonna start doing weird now.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
He's actually really good.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
No, he'd be good at that, it would be really stunning.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Okay, But here's I have a sort of a another
outlook on this. Historically, male musicians were allowed to be
the funny ones. You know how Eminem would always be like,
by the way, I'm.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Why I started comedy, Like we came up together Eminem.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Every the first two lead singles of every album, one
would be about abuse and the other one would be
a full on SNL Kathy Griffin.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Doing like full character work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
My point being that it's actually like justice that now
women musicians are the funny ones.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, but it's not that it's not that Charlie XCX
is doing skits, it's that she is literally being She's
Lauren Michaels, is what she is.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
She's like the kingmaker.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yes, she's in charge of like the industry. It's like
the contracts and the deal. We're like, if I want
to green light a picture, I can't do that without her.
I can't do that without her. That's okay. I'm really
happy for her.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know how, Like drag Race changed, Like now every
drag queen does rupe Paul's style drag to try to
get on drag Race. Now we're all doing sort of
Charlie XCX style comedy so that she'll notice us. We're like,
look how glamorous we are. Look we're it girls and fabulous.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Wait, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's so because I when I started doing stand up,
I would always wear like a dumb, little slutty outfit
and it really is a prison of my own making.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Then now I have to like every time we're a petticoat.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
And equipment everything, it takes like five hours to get ready,
so annoying.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
It's so long. That's really tough.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Should we not to completely drive this conversational hal Should
we do our first oh my god, so that we
can get into the top.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, because I'm like, no, that's a great point. I'm
having too much fun.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
We also say, I'm like, I take your time. You
should follow me on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Uh, Tessa, we had just gotten bast attention.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
But I'm like, totally take your time, dude, on your
own time, but like I challenge it and empower you
to follow me on.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Instagram'sa I'm gonna have to put you on time out
and you are a high school student, so you have
to listen to me.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I know, I'm kidding. This drive me home after this.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
My learners, by the way, say I care about you
so much anything. Our vibe is really similar and we
have really good chemistry.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, I wish we were in the same room because
then it could really really pop off.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I can tell. Let me say it back. That's what
the hell literally did say it?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You require so much validation.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it's true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
This is unfair. I'm I'm I'm cold and I'm ungiving.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
This is what I am. No, do you think you're
cold and on giving sometimes?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
So you're sort of like Dakota Johnson and materialist.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I'm like, I'm a lot like Dakota Johnson materialists.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, it never No, it's just like.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'm not effusive.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I think.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
No, that's true, that's true. I think people get confused
because you're so You're so positive and smiley and like
bubbly and silly. Yeah, but you're not fake.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I'm not fake.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's and that's actually one of your worst. Literally, I'm
like begging, no, he's not.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Sam will literally never like guess someone up if he
doesn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, cool, say your word means something. Yeah, I'm like,
it's like, obviously we can't.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Believe it at all.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
No, I have believe in complimenting. I feel like I
like telling people that they're amazing. I think that's like
very femme.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think I like telling people them.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I like telling people they're amazing if I know it,
like it's the only problem is I don't know, like
like like you and georging out all the time. So
of course your friends and he can be like, of
course we have amazing chemistry. I'm like, I don't know
our chemistry yet, we barely have focus.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I love you doubling down and be like, I don't
know if you're amazing, I don't know. We got Our first.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Segment is called Street Shooters, and in this segment, we
test your familiarity with and complicity and stick culture by
asking you a series of rapid fire questions where you
have to choose this thing or this other thing. And
the one rule is you can't ask any follow up
questions about how the game works. Do you copy totally, Tessa,
I was born to run? Or starships were meant?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Why starships starship?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay, Tessa lost in the sauce? Or Oshkosh Bagosh.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Lost in the ess.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Bless this mess? Dress to impress?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Or do you ever go by tests?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Do you ever, okay, respect your elders and olds or
inspect your shelter for mold?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (26:04):
I think you should respect your elders. Obviously, I'm saying
that because of the company.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Okay, now we're old.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
What is the no? Wait, I'm actually worried. I'm worried
that your audience is gonna not like me.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
But I care about you guys so much like I'm
I'm literally a fan before I am like a peer.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Having a need for speed, or losing the will to read.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Losing the will to read leftist politics or a sexist
shopping riff.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh, definitely a sexist.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Maybe posting hole on close friends are going to the
mole on the weekend?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Is the mold mall? I never asked that any that
would be a question I would ask if I didn't
know the rules.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yes, yes, yes, thank you, uh posting.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Hole Intelligentsia Coffee or Anastasia Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Anastasia Beverly Hills. I literally like I grew up there.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I was, that's literally your home.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
First of all, okay, yes, we rate our guests on
scale of zero to one thousand doves. And I am
so you know, I'm feeling sort of this interesting style
of trapped, where you know, if I give you a
high score, it's a lot. We're faking it. If I
give you a low score, I'm being mean and not

(27:21):
validating you. So I'm lost. George, what do you think
the score is?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I think I have to say I actually think she
did a really I agree, and I have reasons for it.
I think that she showed vulnerability in the sort of
offhand comment of like, I hope your audience likes me.
I thought the save of asking a question that immediately
saying that's a question I would ask if I didn't
know the rules was like a brilliant meta commentary Charlie

(27:48):
xx level comedy. I think she might be getting the
role of cashier at Fire Island Pines liquor store when
Charlie goes in there to buy poppers in her big film. Yeah,
and so I'm thinking a high score. Now we're talking
eight hundred to one thousand range. Now this is where

(28:09):
it gets tricky.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, do you what do you think?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know? I think we just got to split the
diff and say, a clean nine hundred doves.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
A clean nine hundred doves, thank you, guys.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Score a really good score. I just like I care
about good test scores.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I know what I forgot. And you got into Yale
one time one time.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Well, I for a long time.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
I was like an sat tutor or like a college
essay tutor. I'm part of the college admission scandal.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
You know, are you No? My boss was in that
Netflix dock. Really. Yeah, we're like editing the kids into
pictures of them rowing were shopping them. Yeah, someone had
to do it.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I still every like approximately once a month, I'm like,
I need to get into, say t tutoring because it's
really good money and I'd be amazing.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
You'd be so good. Oh my god, it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Especially college essays is more fun because it's like trauma porn.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
You have to be like, that's the worst thing that
ever happened to you.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, like a girl told me she was burned head
to toe. H t T. I was like, you're gonna
go to Harvard. You got this, sweetie fie.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
There should be a Materialists about a college essay person.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh my god, Sam, that's genius. That's actually like a
better idea than Materialists. No offense to Seline's.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, I loved Materialists on record.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yes, for anyone who doesn't listen to the Patreon the
big reveal I went in. I sort of didn't love Materialists,
but then Sam loved it so much that he won
me over, And now.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I loved you saw it through Sam's eyes? Yes?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
At first I saw it through my eyes, I said,
not for me totally. Then I saw it through Sam's eyes.
I said, Oscar, Now.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm sorry that I haven't seen it yet. I didn't
do that.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Are you going to at least I wasn't. Would you
ever support female film maker felm makers film I'm foreign?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Would you ever support female field makers?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
We're rivals? Yeah? What about Charli XCX?

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Absolutely my rival. This is how I feel about like
Arita Grande being cast in Wicked.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
I was like, that should have been me. I really am,
like we'd like it was me or her on that one.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Damn, you're sort of not a girl's girl.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
No, that's actually so hey. I don't even want to
joke about that. It's not fine because you are, because
you're not a huge girl you are. I really ride
for the girls so much.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And yeah, and when you say girls, do you mean
gay guys mostly of course not women.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Ride for girls who are no, no, no, I care.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I really My whole project is that, I like, I
care about women so much. And that's like, obviously not
cool and it's not financially sound. You're only gonna lose
that way. Obviously I've lost the room I said I
liked women. I've completely lost the real.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sorry. We were like, when do gay guys come back?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, we gave you an inn.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Well can I say that like the way like sapfix
run Twitter now, like a sapphig fan cam can do
more for your career than going on Jamie Fallon a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Can do more for your career than going on Jimmy Fallen.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's true. I just want to like, I want to
hold him by the shoulders.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Wait, Sam, what are you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
No, No, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think I find that like Twitter is obviously beyond dead,
and yet whenever there's like something happening on it, I'm like, no,
this is real, this is real, and this matters, and
it's like a very skewed view of the world, and
yet I see it.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I have to say something about Twitter. They have figured
out some sort of algorithm. They meaning, you know, elon musk.
I guess sure, I no longer go on it, but
like during the day. But what I do is once
a day, at in the evening, usually before bed, I
go on desktop and I scroll for approximately ten minutes.
And what happens is the algorithm naturally gives me the

(31:55):
top like gay guye jokes of the day, and I'm
in heaven. I don't it no longer is a gative
space for me. It's like if you just you don't
go during the day, you don't go like you don't
like political stuff, you just go once. It's like Gwyneth
Paltra having one cigarette at the end of the day
and somehow it's good for her rather than bad. If
you just go once on desktop at the end of
the day, I'm seeing the funniest shit you cannot believe.

(32:18):
Do you not find That's not I don't find that,
but I wish I had your feed. I guess I
get like I get.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
The most crazy sort of rancid stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes seeh I went through that phase and then in
my feed at least and maybe this is because I'm
like liking very strategically or something in my feed, all
that stuff is gone and it's now like laughs laughs.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Laughs, that's nice.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I feel like I'm visiting like a small town when
I go on it, like You're like, yes, on this person,
why are they verified? Why is this the ad I'm seeing?
Like it feels very local news.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yes, it's like a really niche subreddit and you're like, yeah,
I guess this's what you guys are doing here.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, it's interesting. Sorry off topic, Tessa.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Hi, Hi, I'm so shock.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I can't but feel there's still tension between us and
I really.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Much kind.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
By the way, that's your solo merch Merch Merch printed
merg Do you want to tell us your straight topic
and what is straight about it?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And potentially even first list the ones you had as
a short list, and then we'll go into the one
you chose.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Okay, so one of them is doing stuff? Do you
have to?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
And spoiler alert that will be the one we end
up doing. Okay, So let's put a pin in that.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
There's also prank culture obvious a classic, and then being
fundamentally unknown.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Which I think circles back to doing stuff absolutely. Now
I really want to hear your theory of why doing
stuff is straight, because I actually think it.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
A sort of overarching theme of many topics we've done
on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Okay cool.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
So basically I think that like talking having sex, that's
for gay people straight people, they.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Obviously kind of don't have anything in common or don't.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Really know each other, so they need their interaction to
be like mediated by an activity.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
So that's why it's like, you need to do stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
You're going to be watching the TV show together, You're
gonna be going bowling together, board games.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
You might be franking that girl. You might be branking
that girl.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So that's what I think, happy how I think. I
think doing stuff is a really genius topic. It makes
me think immediately of sort of my straight coworkers. And
when you recount like oh, what did you do this weekend?
Like they're always like, oh, I went on a hike,
I like gardened, I went to the blank, I did this,
I went to the flea market. And then I'm always like, oh,

(34:53):
like I can't I can't share, Like I don't have
anything I did. Like what I did was I went
to the Eagle and then I I stayed home all
day the next day.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Like, yeah, you're like, my weekend was more of a vibe.
It wasn't like a series of structured events. Sorry, no, totally.
I wasn't doing a beat by beat outline of a film.
I was living my life.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, you're not doing like a syllabus like a college
orientation activities.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
You're living in the moment.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
God forbid, God forbid.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I do get jealous of it sometimes because it seems
like a very like I don't know, you like, do
get to experience things like people know they can have
Straight people are allowed to have hobbies because they're doing stuff,
whereas gay people, it's like, are you the only hobby
you're allowed to have is like reading the article and
listening to the song.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Reading the article and listening Did you read the article?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Did you listen to the song that's literally every gay
guy all day long? Did you read an article? Did
you listen to the song? And every lesbian that's true.
So I'm I also have had a similar circular path
in terms of my relationship doing stuff, which first I'm like,
that's pathetic. Doing stuff is pathetic. Yes, you're pathetic.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Then you start experimenting with doing stuff. You take a
trip that has a few more activities. You you do
play apples to apples, you do, go on a hike,
and you realize that actually, if you do it right,
it actually opens up possibilities, and you're like, wait a second,
is this what they've been hiding from us this whole time.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna like it. Right.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Me thinks doing stuff is going to be my new thing.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I think I like this little.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay, well this to me, but sorry, you go, you go,
you go, you go. No, No, I'm being stupid.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I want you go. Don't talk about my friends.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I think that like hobbies, though, I don't want to
have a safety net because I sometimes am hustle a grind.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Set where I'm like, no, it's cheating.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Hobbies are cheating.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah, you can't get the film it for anything else.
In order to be successful, you have to be in
pain constantly, and so yeah, you can't have any moments
of peace or happiness.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know what this reminds you of. It's like in comedy.
I'm like, if you reference a proper noun, that's cheating.
If you're doing a bit and it's about Ariana Grande, yeah,
that's cheating because you're looking for a shortcut a reference.
Everyone understands your bit should be about the concept of
existence and if you can't pull that off, get the
fuck off the stake. Yes, it should be about time.

(37:25):
It should be about the nature of existence. It should
be about living in a body. And how awkward that is.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, I think this. Of course this is gave her straight.
But of course we're gonna have to say it. It's
La versus New York el. LA is all about doing stuff,
what is your activity? And New York is not about
doing stuff at all unless it's.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Going to the met Here's where it is. New York
is about spending money to not do stuff somehow, and
LA is about not spending money to do stuff and
so hiking, Oh my god, you're so right, Like coming
over to the house for a game night. LA is
all about somehow like constantly planning activities but not paying

(38:08):
for them. And in New York it's like, well, I
spend one hundred thousand dollars tonight and what did I do?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Have a drink? Completely you leave the house, You're gonna
send forty dollars.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I had this talk about the LA is infecting me.
I was like, I should sign up for surfing lessons.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I should stunt up. Wait, you should? That would be
fat My being surper is so randomly.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Curious, Sam, you should absolutely do that.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Did you have the thing where it's like our greatest
minds go to LA and then they become Marvel?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, where it's like you this is like actually dangerous territory.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
No, please, I think true. I think this is dangerous
in the way that we should go.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Do you have one thing that scares you every day?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And actually, I'm noticing a lot. I've seen this happen
a few times over the last seven years. Someone goes there,
becomes ninety percent Marvel and then like wakes up in
a sort of matrix like trance and is like, I
have to move back to New York otherwise, Like I
can see my body.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Change, Yeah, I think I think I'm definitely at risk
of going Marvel. I mean, when they go low, we
go Marble.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I just feel like.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Everyone is so polite and normal here that you do
just like everyone starts to look at you with an
ugly face when you are not that, and so that
it softens everything.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well, but every time I see somebody with their abs,
I'm like, Okay, for each ab, you could have written
a specscript, right you in spec script, I'm literally just
like for each alb, I'm like, oh, interesting, they.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Drop the script, so you are literally published.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But so your thing is that, like, because this is
an interesting point of view, you think people need to
be more hustle culture.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, no, this is actually toxic. It's not even like
you should just like like love your friends.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
And give beauty.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
You're are you not working?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Go to the option? Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Specifically go to the factory key in the bottle, that's
what about?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Specifically for comedy?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, like, so you could write on Big Mouth season
four hundred.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Which is, by the way, show run by Charlie X. Yeah,
I just read that on Deadline.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Sorry, No, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I think but that is, I think people in New
York don't want to have balance. They want to and
people in LA are like, well, six hours of my
day for mindfulness and then I do one hour writing.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but I actually think that like that probably
gets more done.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Like it's not true that you have to be like
suffering every waking moment in order to be productive.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
No, And this is sort of like the dark truth
about New York versus LA is that despite the fact
that New York is always like rushing, people in LA
are actually sort of doing more what.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
They're doing something, they're doing, They're doing stuff. No everyone.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
It's like you see someone in New York and she
looks so in her and you're like, wow, she's probably
like a governor and she's going to a sample sale.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Oh, you're literally good women to be shocking for my head.
So I'm doing women be shopping Tesla.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
If you were to do stuff, what stuff would it be?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
If you had if you if there was a gun
to your head and they said do stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
This is where I actually worry that I have like
no interiority or like point.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's where I get scary.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Well, some a lot of people recently, on different occasions,
have said I can't imagine you listening to music, which
is basically like you have no inner life.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Several people they dare accuse you of not listening to
the song.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
The dare accuse me you've never heard my music. So people,
I mean, I will say, you do talk a lot about.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Specscripts accomplishing. Yeah, right, but it's because I haven't.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
But I think you're also you're someone that like always
knows the industry tea in a way that stresses me out.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
To be honest, I like you, I am so toxic.
But it's not even like it's also I know about
Brooklyn comedy. Like my special interest is like the old
scene in Brooklyn, Like when I was in college, I
would take the Metro North to come like go to
the Bell House.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
And like see you guys. Literally, So I'm like I'm paying.
I'm like I'm paying.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I'm paying you to do this podcast. Absolutely, you're the
first guest to actually paid. This isn't make a wish.
We were looking for students New York area.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I'm getting college crediting the podcast.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
This is the Second City thing all over again.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, but I wish that like my industry knowledge was like, actually,
not even niche. It's like so small. It's like for
a four block rating. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, your industry knowledge is like someone who is twenty
three had a general meeting with True TV which they're rebooting, which.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
By the way, No, I'm like, I always know who's
going to do a Man on the Street TikTok style show.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, yeah, which is all of us eventually.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, oh my god, here's no you die the hero
early answers.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
My emails, No, every diet are you guys getting these
emails from media companies called like BLUPA that are like,
what if you cleaned a boy's room as a TikTok
I it.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Was like Rachel cost catching straight Rachie, this is a
pro pro Rachel.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Podcast, I pitting women against you.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
These were pro Rachel. Doesn't mean we're anti Tessa, yeah,
or does it? I No. I find the TikTok shows
that it was so charming at the beginning, and now
I'm like they're getting like emptier and emptier and emptier,
and I'm like, okay, enough, like we need to go
have some substance again.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
I agree. Yeah, I think long form is back.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Fuck yeah, it's called substack, and you better get on it.
How to your next bacscript, It's gonna be on substock.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah. Wait, do you have a substack?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
This whole time, I do not have one, but I
have been threatening to make one for quite literally sick.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
It does feel like I'm like, that's a threat, Like
you have a gun, I have a substack.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, but Georgia, you're also one of those people that
I feel like you don't need a substack. You carry
the substack energy where people just you walk through the room,
people assume.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yes, thank you. I'm gonna actually accept that.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
That's good. That's really good.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
But don't you think that's even more reason for me
to start a substack, because it's like I'm leaving money
on the table people already. It's like I'm already doing
the work of having a substack, which is kind of
like acting like I'm better than everyone.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
This is so why not put pen to paper?

Speaker 4 (44:34):
No, I think it's like the vibe is enough, Like
I'm kind of wondering if I should just be taking
pictures of myself with podcast mikes and not even have
a podcast. I'm just imposting if I'm talking another day
in the Office episode five.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Actually, okay, here's an idea. How much time would it
take for someone to figure out your scam if all
you did was rent a studio like this, Yeah, get
a bunch of outfits and shoot twenty seven one minute
clips of you saying things as though it's a clip
from a podcast.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
I guarantee you do that in one afternoon.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, No, that would be successful. I don't know if
you There was a whole thing where that was like
an advertising strategy where they were literally doing that, where
they would fake podcasts and have like normal cool hosts
be like actually like Crest White trips I find to
be kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well they did that with stand up too, stand up yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Fake stand up clips.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
It's really dark cultural recession.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, I'll say one time, George and I actually pretended
to record a podcast for ads. Yeah, we did do that,
but it was we were being ourselves. We weren't like
promoting anything except the idea of podcasts. But and honestly,
we like kind of and we did an amazing job.
And actually when those that's the guy who was running
that I am now friends with in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yes, super cool Australia. You should come to your boy.
Well he's he's in Australia right now, Oh my god,
there we go.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Here here, Okay, here's actually an example. Sorry to be
so self indulgent. Here's an example of Sam and me
like leaving money on the table. We did those ads.
They were for Apple podcasts. We never posted them or
or mentioned that we did them to anyone because we
were embarrassed that we did an ad.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I believe that that's very us. We're bad at our.
It's like, are we so fucking stupid?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Wait, here's those.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Two years ago? Did you get money for it?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I don't remember the details, but it was the love
of the game. I think it was like it was like, uh,
they were featuring.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Their yeah promotions, promotion.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah it was promotion.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Well I guess it wasn't since we didn't post it,
so by definition it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, you guys need to be less like you need
to be more shameless.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
No, I'm ready. I'm ready to be shameless now, and
I fear it's too late. I've resisted my entire life.
I've always really like almost fetishized the idea of integrity.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Mmmm, and so have you?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
No, I have, and it's disgusting and it's and where
has it left me?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
On this flat screen TV, I'm just a.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Girling on screen.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
It's interesting though, because you're like, you're fetishizing integrity, But
is it like for you said, it's not even necessarily
for political causes, like what causes it?

Speaker 3 (47:28):
For No, it's like we still believe in the concept
of to some extent.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And I realize we are currently recording like a compedy,
you know. I realized that, like we're not saying, you know,
we're not saving lives here, but I think there's still
We're still old enough that we slightly believe in the
concept of settling out.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
We still believe in like things being.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
In poor taste or cringe or something.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Well, okay, I was talking about this with Joe cassel
Baker shout out, shout out, shout out, and.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Because everyone loves to talk about cringe Mountain, where it's like,
in order to be six, well, you need to get
on the other side of cringe Mountain. And Joe was like, well,
there's actually more to it than that, which is true.
You can't just be cringe you also have to be good. Yeah,
that is always getting left.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
This is actually this is similar to how people are
Like Tony Morrison didn't publish her first novel until she
was forty two. It's like, right, but she actually was
smart and talented me it was for it, and she
worked throughout that time to accomplish it. It's not like
you're gonna turn forty two and write a novel. You're
not gonna write belove it.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'm literally gonna turn forty two and write a novel.
Wait have I told you guys this? I keep having
this thought where I'm like, the moment I turn forty,
I'm gonna be a musician. Like, do I play any instruments? No,
but I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a musician when
I turned forty, and I just know it's gonna do
a reverse charge. I'm gonna do a reverse charge. I'm
gonna be in charge of the music industry. I'm gonna
be the kingmaker.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
You're gonna be the Jack Antona of music.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
You don't need to play instruments, you just need an
I do literally that's and don't get me wrong, I
can't play the iPad either.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I mean, the moment I'm opening a program, I'm saying, ah,
but you know, the taste is just there and there's
no denying that. When I'm forty, I will be a musician.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
God.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
When Macy was DJing at your wedding, I was like,
I'm going to take DJ classes.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Oh, Michael, no cry for hope.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I had a friend who did that and honestly, and
you may know, her name is RuPaul, her name is.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, she was just a scrappy little nobody until she
took those DJ classes.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Oh my god, scrappy little nobody. Anna Kendrick mentioned.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I mean, do we have more to say about doing stuff?
I feel like we like sort of left it, left
it so quickly.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Oh well, I just think it's like it just okay.
I had my first boyfriend when.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I shout out Joe kessel Baker, Yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Always like living with a guy and I can't afford it.
But I'm like an artist in residence at his house,
like sponsoring me in my work, and I was I
was there working working on my projects and his any specs.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I've like never written, except I simply can't believe that
based on how many times are your referenced.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
The no I actually don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
That's why you drop the broad broad City Specs script. Now,
now I know Alana gets up to you through your eyes.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Wait know I think I told you this, but I wrote, Okay,
the only thing I read.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
I wrote a pilot about like this girl Bella who
was like suicidal, and my manager read it and she goes,
why is Tessa, I mean Bella a suicidal?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
She's like, why does Testa want to kill herself? I
mean the character? And I'm like, nice name, right, the character?
Not okay.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
I was living in his house, yes, and his roommate
like didn't know how to talk to me, and so
the only thing he knew was that we had both
seen mad Men, and so genuinely every time I'd entered
the room and he'd be like mad Men.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Like Tessa like mad Men, And.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
It's like, yeah, like that was the only way two
people could talk or connect was like through that point.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
I see.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I say, So that's an extension of doing stuff is
watching having reference.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah, which is interesting.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
It's like not even like I was like I've seen
that like three episodes. I'm not like the president of
the Madman.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Fish yeah, what what you were wanting was his roommate
to come in the door and say, wait, is everything okay?
You seem tense?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
No, really?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Hey, yeah, why is bella suicidal?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Put your hand on my chest. Feel how I breathe?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I mean, yeah, that sounds all this is.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
This reminds me of Okay, get ready for me to
quote an SNL sketch.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Here we go, Mama.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Fred Armison as what's the French woman? French pretentious woman.
It's like Justine or Brigitte or something.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Imag Fred Armison in a black bob wig. Sure, I'm
seeing it. Regime Regiene. Okay, okay, So it's the character
of Regime. And the whole thing is that she is
someone's new boyfriend and they're all in like a sort
of middle class bourgeois house. But Regiene is too sophisticated,

(52:06):
and she's like, let's talk about outsider art. But everyone
else like wants to play a board game. That is
like the gay the gay person at the at the
straight convention of people talking about mad Men, they're like, did.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
You guys read the article? Did you listen to the song?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Did you read the article.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Can we talk about okay, I have something to talk
about with when it comes to the song, yes, okay.
Do you have this thing where when the song comes out,
you're so excited and you're waiting for the album to
come out, and you're like, when this album comes out,
I'm gonna be so happy because I'll get to listen
to not just one song, and to listen to upwards
of ten songs. And then the album comes out and

(52:44):
you find listening to the album to be a chore
even though you like it and you like all the songs.
And then you're like, there's a deep sadness when the
album actually comes out because you are now not looking
forward to anything.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah, what it is? Suddenly you're doing stuff. Oh my gong.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
The single, the like vibe of the single is much
more about like, yes, you do the homework of listening
to one song that's two and a half minutes long,
but it's not really about that. It's about like the
day is has this flavor of newness and of innovation
and of anticipation that is very gay. Sitting down and
having to listen to an album is straight, and that

(53:21):
you are doing homework.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Completely Wow, I also think I think that, like I
like already knowing the song. What's fun about a song
is that you already know it. And so when and
when there's one song that's easier to do, I can
get it pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
A full album. I'm like, I don't know you.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
You're essentially doing dual lingo when the album comes out.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yes, you're doing du lin du a lingo when the
dua lipa album comes out, and.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
You're saying, you're saying, how fast can I listen to
this ten times so that it feels like I've known
it my whole life?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, because here's the thing. You actually can't
know an album until a year later.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yeah, maybe maybe three months. I can do it in
three months.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, you're well, you're a musician, you're a professional,
so you can do it in three months. For me,
it takes a full year.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
And I don't listen to music, and you don't listen
to music.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
You have no materiority. You're too busy waiting. Those lyrics
distract you.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
PR nightmare going on. This is a pr nightmare for
like a career enter. It makes you seem so psychic. Well,
it was something about so no, go go go oh,
can I say about doing stuff too?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
My thing about straight culture is like, okay, I think
we're constantly doing stuff together and you can actually spend
so much time.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
In a straight relationship and you guys don't know each
other that well yeah, well yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
And this is why breakups, I actually think are it's
it's helpful because when you break up, it's not personal
because it's like you don't know me, you don't know me.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
That was This is literally the plot of the Materialists.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
You should actually watch Materials actually about that's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Please write Materialists too and put it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Up at the Bell House.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I will be there.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Yeah righte.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
A materialist specscript in the form of a multiicam sitcom,
I Dare You, and all three of them are played
by Charlie.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
It's Charlie, Troy and Benny Drama.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
The unknowability is god. It is so fundamental to the
entire project of straight relationships.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
And in fact, like when you do break the mold
and start getting to know someone that is stigmatized, it's
like that's when a guy's like, she's crazy, bro, And
that is when a woman is like he's angry. Yes, yeah,
because you actually made the mistake of actually like breaking
through a literal first layer.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
It's and I think there's like one I'm often performing
more like the way I am. It's kind of Hannah
Montana double life friends versus who you are with. And
then so I think one problem is like you're being
a different kind of girl when Carrie's talking to Big.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
But then there's the other issue of like boys are
also so bad at understanding women or interpreting mirror emotions. Okay,
so yes, So both things are happening, and that's why
there's this like language barrier, Like does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
So you are saying the barrier is on the one side,
boys are clueless, totally. On the other side, girls are baking. Yes,
girls are liars and boys are clueless.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Is that a good Is that a good deal? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
And that is why they can never connect kind of yeh.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Because girls and it's also I can connect because they'll
lie to each other and be like you're lying, and
they can like know that, and but a boy is like,
that's the truth, that's so true.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
I do. It's true. Girls can be like okay, so
what really the boy will be like sound starting that
keep walking.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
And this is actually what's so beautiful about female friendships
and male friends. Female friendships, all the girls are lying,
but then all the girls are like, okay, like but
for real. Yeah, then male friendships, all the guys were
just like they just go around grunting and they're like
having the.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Time of verbal.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yes, it's fantastic, it's non verbal, but it's true.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, well, like, okay, so when I was having like
the worst time, wait, she's sweet that she's like, oh,
he's non verbal. But it's a couple of girl that's
literally male and female. I know, I hate Hey, we
did like boys be like and girls be like. And
we also were like New York be like la.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Well that's kind of the entire premise of this podcast
about it.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
But okay, I was having the worst period of my life.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yes, And I remember my friend went up to the
guy who was dating at the time and she was like,
I just check on.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Testa, like I'm worried about her. And he was like,
I don't know what we're talking about. She's doing amazing.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
And four days later I went to said, word, it's
just crazy. Like his finger could not have been less
on the palls like he meant it. He was like,
she's amazing.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
No, it's literally no man will look at a woman.
And she's literally she's saying.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Take me to the psych ward and he's like, did
you mean to take you to see the materialists? Let's go.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
It's like, I'm an AMC stuff. This is perfect.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, no, we have seen this in our lives very recently,
to an insane degree.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I can't it's so it's so interesting. Well, I also
think there's an interesting dynamic because we.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Know age gap relationships, wealth gap relationships, hot gap relationships.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
And actually, when I learned recently woke gap relations.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Oh oh I love that.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah, there's also mental health gap relationships, yes, which is
like I'm a crazy woman, and it's so hard when
you're dating like a guy who's normal, because I'm mad.
Both ways, either you're like othering me and I'm like
what the fuck, or you're accepting it and I'm like, oh,
so you want a little patient, you want to.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Stick, you want to stick control. And also anytime they
try to help you, it's like so condous.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Anyone They're like, it seems like you might want to
go on a little walk Yeah, like I'm a dog.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
When you're taking me on a walk. Does that make sense?
That makes makes complete sense?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
That sounds really complicated.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Sorry, Liam, And by the way, of course, I'm sorry
for everything I've said so far, and we'll continue to
never apologize.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
That is a that is a subtext of every statement
that any of us.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Have ever made. Can I ask a question for you?
Do you guys feel known by your spouses?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Sam, you just got married, you go, I'm feeling so
deeply known at this stage in my life. In some ways,
I there's a just to have anything to talk about.
I feel that I'm almost jealous sometimes of the distance
the straight couples have where I'm like, so when you
guys have sex, it's like having sex with a new person,
like because You're like, who is this stranger?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Literally, I completely agree. I would say that intimacy is
sometimes uh crippling.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Yeah, Like I'm I.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I sometimes have moments where I'm like, oh, no, have
we peeled back all the layers and there is no mystery?
And then thankfully, you know, you grow, you get crazy
in different ways.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, you find in you. You listen to the song,
He listens to the article He lives to the article.
You have to unpack you both.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
You read the song the article.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
But yeah, I would, and I do think actually that
is that is a stereotype that exists with gay people.
It's like they are too in touch with their feelings.
They're too always doing couple's therapy, always doing like therapy
speak with one another, and there is something liberating about
just simply not knowing who your partner is completely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, enough communication, Yeah, well this is okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
I'm like, I'm like, should I say real idea is
or should I go back to being like a bimbo
with huge him boo?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
That's what the real idea and that's what the real idea. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Communication is always thought of as being inherently like virtuous. Yes,
And I'm like, well, which again, it should be good communication,
Like just communicating itself isn't good, But like therapy buzzwords
is like, you communicated, so I deserve a Pulitzer prize.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
And it's like, well, many people communicate badly and over communicate,
and so it's like you don't deserve a parade because
you said stuff? Yes, does that make that that makes
complete sense?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
No? I do think there's there is a an epidemic
of over communication currently and it needs to be stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You know what, This reminds me of someone taking somebody communication,
which is basically morally neutral, and making it a good
It reminds me of the era when I lived in
San Francisco and it was like in the middle of
the tech boom, it was all about quote unquote changing
the world. Now, changing the world is a completely neutral statement.
You can change it for the better or you can
change it for the worst. Totally dropping a bomb is
changing the world. Yes, so, and you start to feel

(01:01:38):
insane because you are like you start hearing these people
that are like, well, above all, we want to change
the world, and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
You're like, how how Yeah, it's an amazing that's a
fire take. I'm fine reacting that take. Agree, Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
George and I sometimes play this Sam when you're not there,
but we're first thinking about you, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I can't believe you guys are just hang out. Like
as far as I know you guys have your meeting
for the second time today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I want you to know every time I'm with someone else,
I feel guilty.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
This is so messed up. You have moved on it's dark.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Okay, what do we do when we hang up?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I'm oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
So when we're talking about monoculture. One of the first
times we hung out was like we're playing the game
with like, what is monoculture?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Yes, And I used to think Subway takes is monoculture.
I'm always bringing it up on stage, and no one
knows what I'm talking about. But I think I'm being
like one hundred percent agree.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
No one knows. That's fascinating, especially in New York.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
No one knows. I'm like unrelated. Maybe the joke is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
No, that's not it. That's enough of a reference that
like people will chuckle just to I recognize what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
But it's interesting what is monoculture?

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Because I really think right now the only thing that's
monoculture is Domingo on us and now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Because that shout out to agree and I don't. Do
you think hot ones is monoculture? Just to go into
like more inner stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I do think that is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I think of all of them, that's the most monoculture.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
What about chicken shot, No, that's niche. It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
It's niche because because British and also because it's more
for it's more for girls.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Oh my god. Well that's the whole thing of Brooklyn.
Not comedy just means you're a woman or gay. Yeah. Yeah.
And do you have any contributions to monoculture? Sam? Yeah?
Like what is Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Oh I think Joe Rogan is monoculture. I also think
like Netflix in general is monoculture. Yes, Netflix is, because
like that's monoculture in the classic way. It's like network
shows where you're like this, like this is horrible, and
yet four billion people watched this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
That's actually vintage because it's like this is a bad
show that we all know about everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Everyone knows too and a half men. That's just everyone
knows too and a half men.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
There's also like the cult like that this is old
Like the riddle where the doctor is a woman is monoculture.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
That's true. All of us know. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
That's the only monoculture we have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Wow. Well it's also like that is oral storytelling is Wow.
It's actually like not only moniculture, but old fashion. It
harkens back to like a preliterate age.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Since we're doing gendered monoculture. Is call her daddy monoculture
or no.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
You know, that's a tough one. I do think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Okay, is it for girls?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Yeah? Is it forenthes derogatory? No, I don't even worry
for parentheses. Iss, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
You know what, though, I actually think that it's for
the fact that it appeals to straight women means that
it is monoculture because their boyfriends also know about it.
So it's like Sex and the City, but sex and
City also appeals to gay people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Call her daddy does not appeal to gay people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Call her he doesn't appeal to gay people. Call her
daddy is more like, call her daddy's straight culture to me, yeah, yeah, totally.
I actually don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Straight culture is hard for me because I really don't
have any straight friends, and I almost have no friends
that are already even trans.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Well sorry, I'm just saying everyone is so gay. You
guys are mad at me. I think being friends with
me does mean you might take hormones when no, for
sure predictor yeah, well you're you're you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
The right wing is sort of warning against your like
you're like a teacher that seems that seems harmless, but
you're literally making all your students trands.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
No absolutely, and I'm also making them all mentally ill. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
I feel like there's a lot of people who it's like,
if they bump into me at a party and they
have no better options, they will talk to me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I'm an amazing like lighthouse in a storm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Well, you're good at you're good at I don't want
to say small talking. It's not small. You're good at
making conversation. Thank you so much, and that is rare.
You know who else is good in a conversation? Macy Rodman.
I was just telling this to Sam, like, it's like,
you run into her, you know, it's not going to
be this awkward like pulling teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Yeah, but yeah, I think that's on the other person too. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Sometimes I'm like, because she'll be talking to somebody, I'm like,
why is this going so poorly? And it's because you
realize they ask no follow up questions. You say, how
is your day and they say it was good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
I have this guy who lives in la who I'm
sort of obsessed with because he's actually the worst person
I've ever talked to in my life, and I see
him with relative frequency, and I like, he's such a
horrible conversation person. That I'm starting to see him as
like a performance artist, Like you'll literally be like, oh,
this happened to me today, like something kind of momentous,

(01:06:50):
like say, oh I got in a car crash today
and just go okay, and it's like and then he
stands next to you and adds nothing, and you're like,
how did you get strong enough mentally to not need
to respond to me? Like it's actually so groundbreaking and
I want to learn from you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, right, because I feel like I have to dance
like a monkey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, you could just like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Sit in it, in it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
He sits in it big time.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Well, I recent a devastating conversation like that, and I
was talking to the girl, goes, I don't know what
you're saying directly, She said, I don't watch vertical content.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
You got your ass?

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
What were you talking about? Subway takes? You're going around
You're literally going around town begging people to talk to
about subway takes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I wrote this, I wrote this amazing story.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
You wrote sway takes, specscriper subway takes. You're addicted to
writing specscripts and you need to stalk are like Kareem,
but he's living with Monica and Chandler what he takes
subway takes Bratt one hundred agree.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
No, she was like, basically, I think the way I talk.
I hate when people act like what I'm saying is unclear. Yeah,
Like one time I was trying to compliment this girl.
I said you were you were Crushiana Grande and she said,
are you being mean?

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
And I'm like, you know what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
You said this is like me trying to make fabulosa
here your road happen and no one catching on. Damn,
we were born in the wrong decade. And guess what
the right decade the aughts when it was really cool
to do wordplay like that. I know because the as
was all about Rachel Zoe being like I die. That's

(01:08:28):
my entire I think it'll come back. I think you
guys are ahead of the curb. Honestly, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
That means so not to do we should do have
final segment.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
I know, I want us to add like you guys,
and I'm like, we need to like you and me.
We need to find a bipartisan solution. I need to
reach across.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
No, we need to find Uh. I'm gonna follow you
on Instagram as soon as this conversation is over. Oh
my god, it's so complicated because it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
I'm like, I don't know where the bit starts around. No,
he's being dead serious.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
I'm being dead serious. I don't think about that, you know,
I know, I know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Yeah, but you're right it would if I would, I
would want to be followed as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Wait, by the way, I didn't even check. I just
said that to be fine. I don't even know if
you do check. Wait. That isn't insane, it's crazy. I
did that as a hilarious bit. Wait. I feel that
way too, because Instagram is a scary place for me.
I follow you up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Do you think news that is being such a classic
girl and that you're lying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
And I'm being such a classic boy and accepting it
as truth?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
This dynamic is toxic and we had to call ORNA
is so bad for the women's movement.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
This is your Actually you have I did a false accusation.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
I can't believe you did a false accusation on Australia Lab.
This is so little wild.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I've never this is setting us back decades.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
I can see it on your faces. I'm really sorry, No,
I'm really disappointed. You're not calling me out. You're calling
you dragged.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
We're calling you out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I'm not calling me out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
You're gonna go ahead, we're calling you out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I can't believe you dragged beloved podcast or me through
the mud and my reputation just for a laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
There are people that probably you know, didn't listen to
the whole episode. They still think Sam was silencing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You know, they stopped. I'm gonna have to put a
disclaim at the beginning of this episode and say just
trust us. Everything that said is a lie.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Wow, I'm gonna make this right. I'm gotta make this right.
Mark my words. Flight to La today.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Wait, I am going to be in La soon because
I'm from La. And so if you ever want to
like me, I or Alec could be after a show
where rebump into each other and you don't have better options,
you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Can recreate our relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I would love I would love to talk in the
corner of a bar.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I would love to talk in the corner of a
bar with you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
See, and this is communication the good kind, unless you're lying, yeah,
which we don't know which women love to do. The
one thing we all agree on. The one thing we
all agree on Women Live.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
That was my That was my topic that I brought
to that. Yeah, pretty much, it's pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Well, I'm doing a thing too where it's like I
do something and then I pretend it's culture and it's like, girl,
you just do that, that's not what everyone does.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
I do this with trend forecasting. I'm really like, Okay,
what's in right now is wearing stripes, and it's like,
just because I'm currently wearing stripes, it's I use my
platform for evil sometimes, Tessa.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this segment,
we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the
radio shout out by shouting out something to your squad back.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Home and I can go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I have one to George if okay, great, I actually
you know I could. I can do too. Okay, what's up,
comedy nerds, Charlie X six, I'm talking to you girl.
I want to give a shout out to Lisa Kudro,
the only woman with integrity in this town. I saw
that the comeback was coming back. I said, this is
the only reboot I can stand by because Lisa Kudru

(01:12:05):
is one of the only creators in this town that
actually does something right. And I know she would not
bring something back just for a cash grab. She would
bring it back because in her heart, in her soul,
as a woman and as a creator, she has something
new to say. And I feel in such good hands
when I am in something that Lisa Kudro does. She
is one of our top comedic actresses, along with Julia,

(01:12:26):
Louis Dreyfus, Nissi Nash And.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
So write that down, jot that down, shout out to
the comeback, shoutouts Lisa Kudro, and I just want to
say shout out to Lily Morada for giving me this
polo that I'm more amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I feel like it's not exactly my style, but it
is a challenge for me to pull it off, and
I think the more I wear it, the more I'm
pulling it off. And so I love having hand me
down from badass LGBTQ plus creator.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
No, Lily and I have the exact same sense of
style and I'm addicted to it. Yea, I okay, I'm
gonna go ready. What's up? Freaks, losers and perverts? Around
the globe. I of course first want to give a
shout out to my dear friend JK. We don't know
each other at Lord, congrats on the album. This will

(01:13:19):
be out in a few This was this episode is
going to be out way after the album comes out,
but it needs to be said. I'm standing you hard.
And my real shout out is I want to give
a shout out to the guy who plays Cam on
Modern Family. That's right. I've been watching Modern Family and
Cam is such a good gay guy. He nails this

(01:13:40):
fucking role and did you know that he's straight in
real life? That is so wild and so groundbreaking because
he does a gay thing and it's like not offensive.
He nails it like it really is shocking to my
core how good he is at being this really specific
type of gay guy in a way that is like,
I don't know who you were watching for like years
to learn how to do this affectation, but you are eating,

(01:14:02):
you are nailing. And I think more streak guys should
play gay if they're gonna do it like that, because
that is the most realistic thing I've ever fucking seen
in my life. Shout out to Cam XRXL love you
Lord XOXL.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Who wait, Sam, I'm is this illegitimate mind meld? Do
you remember two months ago I posted cam is the
single best comedic performance of the twenty first I legitimately
like two months ago I was doing a Modern Family
rewatch and I posted a like a photo of my

(01:14:33):
screen and I said, this is the single best comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
This is a mind meld. I recently Misha was like,
what if you watch Modern Family before going to bed?
And I was like, okay, And so I've just been
enjoying I it is Genie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
No, it actually like if you think that straight people
shouldn't play gay roles, I dare you know?

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
He's I the dare you to watch me? He is groundbreaking,
It's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
You know what I've heard about him? He fucks. Oh yeah,
we're talking. There's just like a line of women in
goes one, out goes the other. What he is one
of the most promiscuous men in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Wait, I mean I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Maybe now he's married, but in his hated I love
that ran through. Yeah No, he's not ran through. He's
like a playboy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Let's use the proper language here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
He's cool, don't no, no, no, no, no, he's like
a role model to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Well, I love to know that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I'm glad he's getting his God imagined me and I
just teller Ferguson. Of course I've actually seen him on stage.
But imagine sorry, being absolutely eaten up by the strake
I playing your husband day in and day out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Can you imagine like getting off work being like okay,
an off playing a gay guy, time to go eat
puss all night?

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
That is so groundbreaking.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Do you think he says the f slur he's earned it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
No, I don't he's earned it, But I don't think
he does. I really think he leaves the homosexuality at work.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
He's not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
He has never even contemplated like his thoughts on gay rights.
He just it's like that's his job and then he
goes home.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
I believe he sued.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
It's amazing he's severed gay guy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
He's in the elevator, and his change is that he
becomes like more quaint and he's like, I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Mean, you're so right. It's something does come over him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Yeah, No, he's God.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
It's like Jeremy's strong level like you are a true
actor that can embody a different person.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Yeah, well, Jordan, I love that we're on the same
page about that. Whenever you're ready asked.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
One question, for of course, how do I know when
it's over? It's just when.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
When you've said everything you want to say?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
How do I know when the thing I'm saying is over?
It's so legendary you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Know it's over. There's no time, it's just however long
you want to talk, kind.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Of like what is you have?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Got it? Got it? Got it? We're like, okay, hi,
Stradio laboration.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
I'm gonna do a minister shout out, like Sam, first,
I really want to say congrats sore On for never
got it primary.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
And you're fabulous.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
It's funny everyone keep saying we're living out but you're
a socialist, but I do think it's I guess lived
care to think electoral politics can save us. But congrats
you ran an amazing campaign. And people also keeping like
so he's on social media and that's what he wanted.
It's like, well, he also has good ideas on social
media and good game compel. No, he's fabulous, So that rocks,

(01:17:52):
and my shout is going to be for yogurt places
and frozen yogur places, and I know that's a period
piece and people don't care about them anymore, but I always, okay,
I don't even get the yogurt.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
I just get the toppings because sometimes I.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Just want like one oreo and like a little bit
of cookie dough and like two gumme worms. And there's
no place I could get that that's cost effective except
for a yogurt shop, and they're all really far away
from where I live because they're out of fashion. But
when I see what it means a lot to me
because I can get like like a fucked up little
scumpe of a topping, and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
I can get like one of each, like you can
get like a Swedish fish.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
You can get a cookie, even sometimes you can get
cheesecake if you're like a total nasty friend.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
So I really like those and I want them to
come back and with like more of them. So that's
I don't know when.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
What about a what about a candy shop?

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
I gotta go my Opersea, Well no, because they're always
selling them in big bad Yeah, it is less cost
the mixed types of foods like, I want a cookie
and I want a candy, and honestly, if I could
have my way, i'd have a dorito too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
You guys, imagine a drama about a family that they like,
they have a dream to start up a yogurt chop.
Finally they get enough money to do it, they open
up yogurt Chop, and then people are like, Yogurt's over. Yeah,
and then they just like have to like have their shop.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
That's so sad that shit s creak, right, that's your
respect for shit screaks are writing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
My life is a writer. Your respect for shits creak
is yogurt based. They're so sad that Yogurtland is over. Party.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yogurtland is over party.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
And then Dan Levy's like the yogurt we made is
not what I wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
And then everyone's like Oscar, he's wearing a sweater and
everyone's like that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
That's a very good shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Well, Testa, this has been an absolute a huge tree.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
We'll follow you, yeah, please follow me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Tessa Bell with four ls on Instagram And oh I
just made a short film that went to Tribecca so
we're gonna release it. So that would be really nice
if you can watch it, and even if you hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
And what is it called?

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Oh, it's well sister, and it's basically the vibe is
It's not not Wicked. It's a story about a blond
and innet.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
So it's a specscript for Wicked.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I'm working on some more stuff, so I'd love if
you would support.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
It for I care about you, Dan Levy, if you're listening,
we got just the nineteen year old chicob elev Evoe
crazy elev eighteen voices.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Well, thank you so much for doing it. I'm glad
we could let our chemistry fly through the screen even Yes, Yay.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
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