"Febreze" w/ Greta Titelman

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wow, what is up?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
We are coming at you from Los Angeles, California.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm feeling amazing. I just did a little off your
run made us ten minutes later to Oro and recording.
It was completely my fault. I got a yogurt parfe
and then ate it on the spot, and how would
you say, thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Thirty seconds, you spilled a little on your shirt, on
your pants. I went and grabbed napkins.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I was like, I was disgusting. I was kind of
being like a character in the Other two who's like
an agent eating yogurt.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean, you were reading a text, a long text
on my phone. Your text was getting some your phone
was getting some textead.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I had two phones that each had text on them.
I was trying to read them while eating a yogurt
parfe in the intelligentsia in Hollywood, in Hollywood, as I
was running late to my own podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well, what's really dark about it, I must say, is
like you you think it's how sad that you were
an agent and the other two. Meanwhile, that makes me
the agent's assistant. I'm literally just sort of like wandering
around following getting napkins. Because getting napkins, I'm like making
sure you read the message on my phone. Yeah, and
you read it and you like put it in your pocket,
and I'm like, that's fine, it's your phone now. Like
I was literally powerless and you were taking up space.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I was taking up a lot of space. And you, actually,
I have to say, you embodied the role of the
assistant very fast. It like you didn't even resist thank
you for bringing And then I was even like, okay,
so that's Sam's role, Like I'll wait for him to
get me a napkin. I don't even know if I
said thank.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
You, no, you didn't. But one thing that one time
I was in college, I was a caterer and it
would be hard because I would take on the role
of cater so intensely that then I would come home
and be disrespected by my peers because I was like, well,
I'm in a place to be disrespected now. And even
when a one time in college then I played a

(03:36):
like a waiter in a short or something, and you know,
it's everyone is your friend, like, but you're their waiter.
You're literally their waiter.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You're having a trauma response.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And I was literally like, I'm a waiter, like and
it was like, I was like, I'm never doing this
again because when I play waiter, i am waiter and
I can't. I assume the role too hard to allow
myself to do it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's almost like doing some sort of role play sexually
that is to relate it to your past or something,
and then suddenly you start having trauma flashbacks. Yeah, like,
and I do feel like anytime I have to be
in kind of a service oriented submissive role, I'm like,
this is too real for me. Like I have to
I have to yell at someone in the next two hours,

(04:16):
otherwise I will never be able to leave the prison
that is being a waiter.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's really tough, and some people, some people can, like
you know, they can power bottom being a waiter.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, no, this is so true.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I can't. When I am a waiter, I'm being fucked
and not in not in an amazing way. Yeah way,
it's just like okay, baby, like finish up. No exactly,
it's very much like okay, it's our anniversary, so you know,
I have to let him do what he wants to do.
It's grown horn the once a year that I allow it,
and then after that I can finally fucking watch Hunting Wives. Literally,

(04:51):
So that was complicated for me, But I did feel
like it was nice to show you the intelligencia that
I spent so much time at.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, and that way you were power bottoming, and that
you were taking me to a coffee shop I didn't
know about.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's a beautiful, niche coffee shop, the Intelligentzia in Hollywood, Cali.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, I just want to say, I know I was
being very yogurt in two phones, but now we are
past that, and that scene. That kink scene is over.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
The kink scene is over.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
The kink scene and now we're on equal footing. We're
on equal footing, and you no longer have to be
waiter for me, were assistant.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay, I want to talk about I almost wan't to
talk about yesterday trying to have a meeting.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh I almost at the event, I was like, I
can't really go to that right now.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I kind of want talk about we trying to have
one single meeting for potentially one hour in the Silver
Lake Tarteine and the Silver Lake Tartine shout out.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Two different gay guys when you walked in within approximately
forty five seconds.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And two different gay guys that actually we wanted to
talk to correct and it was sort of this complicated
Can you.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Imagine two gay guys you want to talk to? I
kind of like, oh, who are they? Peter Kelly and
Ryan O'Connell and the gay guy. I don't I'm not
even gonna be that because it's we're complimenting them, saying
those are good gig.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Guys considering the neighborhood that you were in.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, it could be much you guys.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, but then it's complicated because it's like we had
to put up a boundary and be like so basically
we have to work, but because we're both weak, we
actually couldn't put up a bet week and we were
just like, how about we all have lunch?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
No we oh wow. Well, in fact, what happened was
here's what happened. Ryan walked in and we were like,
we're about to have a meeting. Ryan is like totally heard,
like I'm gonna be on my laptop. But then Peter
happened to be on the table next to us, and
we were like, just join us then, So then this
situation happened where Ryan was on his laptop alone seeing
us after telling him we can't hang out with him,

(06:38):
have lunch with Peter and just being like cool.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So they were lying, so they were.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Fully lying and they're gapping, they're gabbing with Peter where
they were like talking shop like gabbing like what are
you working on? Like who's attached? And Ryan is like
what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, and Ryan of course retaliated.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Ryan retaliated by taking.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
A phone call that took I would say, one hour.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, no, he was he sold a show.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
He was selling a show, and he was negotiating contract
live on the phone.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So he then left his laptop and by the way, please.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm sorry, sorry, this is just too and.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So he left his laptop inside the coffee shop slash
fast casual restaurant. By the way, they need to figure
out what they're doing with their chicken over there, because
it was rubbery.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
AF This is a call M.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know, I haven't like I have a lot of
things to say about Tartine. I will just say this
bread amazing, period period pastries amazing. Are there stuff? Question?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, let's get back in that work room. Let's let's
get in the love.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Depend in the pad trying to get this damn label off.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, let's put those goggles on and put your phone
away silent mode, do not disturb. It's time to do
one more pass. Set a timer for a half hour.
I can look Amadora method. Yes, twenty five minutes. Let's
try to make that chicken taste a little bit less rubbery.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I want you guys to know that the lyric that
I did quote was from a Doctor dre and Eminem song,
which is very straight. So I just wanted to say,
you said you need to get back in the lab,
and I said, with a penanent pad trying to get
this damn label off that I'm still dre Yes.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, wow, I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It is true, and I say this respectfully. It is
true that doctor Drey and Eminem as a duo or
one of the straightest sets of coworkers.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
One of the straightest.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, honestly they were.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
You guys are kind of the Doctor Drey and Eminem.
Uh yeah, and who is who? Is really the question?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, now we're getting back into top and bottom because
doctor Dray is in charge and we can't.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I want to say this really quickly to what you
were talking about up top.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, because I should have just.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Nudged my way in anyway. I want you to know.
Sam also played my assistant and loss of Spookies, we.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Need to talk about this. And there were times when
I would get too lost in the role and I'm
an assistant. I literally am a worker here and I'm
the assistant.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Were getting were you getting lost in the role and
ordering him around?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, I'm always doing that. It is she lost in
a role or is she just living her life?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah? No, I was feeling there were days where I
would be like, Damn, I'm an assistant.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
You are a subservient little piggy.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes, yes, for you to show up in pinstripe, I would.
I'm assuming the row trousers and then off the shoulder
cashmere sweater, go on my office ready. Kind of loafers
with a ballet twist.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Belgians.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Belgians is what they're called. Yes, Okay, so I never
knew the name Belgians and Belgians. Now specifically the this
like triangle shape or the bow.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, it's specifically this shoe. So this is an iconic loafer.
And they only have one actual location, and it's in
New York City and it's on.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
What's the brand Belgian shoes. Oh, literally, it's called Belgian.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Literally, it's called Belgian shoes. And they only have one location,
and you have to go and get specifically measured, like
your foot needs to get measured. And then the amazing
thing about these loafers are the most comfortable.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
What's the amazing thing about? Amazing?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So you buy them and then let's.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Start there the straight face lifetime guarantee.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
You buy them, and then you have to wear them
for twenty four hours, like not straight like you need
to walk in them for twenty four hours. Let's break
them in and the thing is they don't have soles
on them when you first get them. They just have
a leather bottom. So you walk around so that your
foot imprints gorgeously into the shoe, and then you take
them to your cobbler or back to the store, and

(10:52):
then they put the rubber sole on after. But that's
after twenty four hours of wear.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Ever heard of all? You're making this up? When you're
where you're wearing them pre sole. Yeah, you're just kind
of feeling the rocks on your feet.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
No, No, you're not really. It's like it's it's like this,
do you see the rocks?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
You can you see this.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Part of the soul? This part you're just you're walking
on like a soul. They just don't have. It's just
leather eyes, so there's no And they do that so
that your foot can cush down on that and sort
of make it the most comfortable shoe on the most
of you, Yes, the most shoes you exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So then when you're walking into that boardroom wearing your
pin stripe with the rope hairs exactly, people are saying, oh,
she watched twenty four full hours in that shree before
I got it, so was She's dedicated, dedicated.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
She is not backing down from a challenge.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
You know what it's like when you get a crown
and they give you like a temporary one to like
let you work it out a bit, Yeah, and then
you come in and get the real one exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yes, And you know, I want you to know, my
mind went to jewelry for the head, and then I
realized you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Tea, talk about teeth.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, what you're saying when you get your crown fitted
and Greta's like.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Uh huh, okay, I remember my first crown.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
For th Yes, you have to wear it for twenty
four hours first and then they put all the emeralds in.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, okay, great. Yeah mine was a little tight at first.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, you think really stretched out and you wouldn't think
it would because it's gold.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
But gold is actually a bit more, but.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's pretty malleable.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
All the cheap stuff is really rich, yes, but you
have to get the one that can like fait.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Your head quality quality?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Does bound? Do you feel like crowns like we've run
out of trends so much that it could be that
just crowns become a trend and you see people walk
around just wearing like old fashioned, like burger king, like crowns.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean, I personally would love that.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
That would be sort of fun.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think that that's a return to a return to wonder,
a return to let's let us dare to dream. You know, we.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Are already like returning to feudalism, so it makes a
lot of sense. Yeah, I even think.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
So.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I don't know how much time you spent on TikTok,
but I thought, did you ever get into like fashion
trends and like, see, like this is what's kind into fashion,
like specifically TikTok predictions, which are insane.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
What are they saying?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, they're like this spring, it's going to be all
about little sailor hats, like trust I have seen. I've
been to fashion Week. I was at Milan and kept
saying little little sailor hats. So you're a lot of
little sailor hats and it's like, I see what you mean.
But that's also not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, I mean with nautical it's complicated because they've been
trying to make it happen for decades.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I know, they really are trying to make fuch happen,
and it has in many ways, like I feel like
I don't know. I feel like Body, for example, has
done a lot of good nautical work. I think Chanelle
historically has done a lot of good nautical.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Appears into clown quickly.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yes, I think Ralph Lauren, I would say, is like
nautical light.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Like nautical stripes. Yeah, kind of a very shapeless sweater
with nautical stripes, yeah, paired with the gene.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, and like you know, maybe like a little A
pair of Belgians, White Belgians exactly become another.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Colors.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Do they come from masculine, mascular men like us?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I can't wait to I'm going to take both of
you guys, And.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I actually have a thousand dollars that's in burning a
hole in my pocket.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, I can't wait when I show you. I have
three pairs right now, looking to buy my fourth. When
I show you the wonder of colors and combos and
materials they have, are going to cream your pants.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
You know, when I was growing up, I thought the
most expensive shoe one could have was Todds. Are they
flop now? And everyone's going Belgians.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I never heard of one, Yes you have, I've.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Heard of Tom's.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Todds a uva. You've seen Todds TODs Okay, when we
were like in high school, do you remember those loafers
that had the like the like rub souls that were dots.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Imagine instead of a soul, it's just black dots. I'll
show you.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh god, oh sure, sure, sure A driving moccasin exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh, a driving moccasin. That's gorgeous. Yes, Okay, I want
to say this, and this is me trend forecasting, and I.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Do think you haven't done some good trend forecasting in
a while. Get the ball rolling, I believe. I don't
think Todd's actually went anywhere in terms of.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Being in or out. I think it just fell dormant.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, but do you think if dormant in our community,
but do you think like in the Upper east Side
or in Beverly Hill or like yeah, like in the
Upper east Side, it ever left.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, no, no. I think Todds for men and women
over the age of sixty, has remained a staple in
their lives, just like BALI a brand that we would
never have but like, but that is an up exactly.

(16:03):
So I think Todd's what we're going to see and
I think the gen the gen Zetters.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Are Oh she's British.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yes, absolutely are going to interest there. Like I would
not be surprised if springtime I see a girllipop walking
around in a baby pink Todd with that driving moccasin.
You know what I mean, because the moccasin has made
a comeback. We see you and you doing it. We

(16:32):
see a bunch of different brands doing it. I'm seeing
something I never thought would happened again, people wearing Minnetonka
moccasins again.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Okay, so you're saying they're going to return to Todd's
in the way that it's like it's like a dress
first came back semi ironically, and now people are back
to being like, no, no vintage J Crurollnick sweater.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Correct, Yeah, correct norm core. Everyone's like, oh hahaha norm core.
And then everyone was like, oh wait, new balances.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's literally what we're just wearing.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, and that's it, and it's no longer norm core.
It's just normal. Yeah, it's just clothing.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I see. So so it's it's all that the arc
of justice leads to Todds.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yes, And I think that Todds are going to have
a moment sooner rather than later. I could see it
where everyone's like, oh, we got to get the driving moccasin. Maybe. Honestly,
I'm gonna buy a pair.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Period.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I want to buy like a disgusting color.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I want to buy like lavender.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yes, exactly, exactly, a lavender todd Undersuede Todds will that
will cure my depression?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
You need a coprete with that worse white white capri worse?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I have something? Do you ever like? I wish so
badly that my like style could just not want to
be preppy thing I ever do. It's like when I
try to get edge even slightly, I'm like, and let's
add a like.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Twist boat shoe.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah literally, and I can't not try to be like
a little preppy. And it's like stop it, stop it.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
The thing though, for you and I feel the same
way about myself because we are from similar We've had
similar experiences growing up in similar places. The preppiness. We
can't avoid it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's like the it's like the base level.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's our plague. Yeah, you know, and I think that
you can't run, you can't run, you can't hide. Yeah,
here's the thing. You look really cute and a button down.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Your your butt looks great in a Chino. You look
amazing in a Wallaby.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
You know what I'm saying. And it's like, let's not
reinvent the wheel. I don't need to see you in
a Djanko.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Everyone's told me basically that, like, everyone has an arc
type that they are most tied to, and your fashion
is like your commentary on that archetype, you know what
I mean. Like, you can't actually reinvent the wheel. All
you can do is be like, wouldn't it be interesting
if a you know, assigned preppy at birth person or Supreme? Yes,

(19:19):
Like that's what if? If Sam is in head to
toe Supreme, that's not the same as bonie Vera being
in head to toe Supreme. Correct, Sam is doing Okay,
so I'm Preppy and wearing Supreme, and that's that bonie
Vera is doing. I'm Man of the Woods wearing Supreme
and aging father and that's that.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yes, But you know what's interesting about about Supreme and
brands like Supreme and Noah and things of that sort,
especially Noah that is rooted in.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
That's true, is a bad example, because it literally is
rooted in Yes, but it's like Sam war Hood by air. Sure, yeah,
it would be like okay, so crappy guys wearing by air.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Or like if you were to come to me and
like headge tobrac Owens, I would be like, you know,
I'd be like, we're we're doing it.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
My dream is to be one of those people that
wears like all like Yogi Coma Garson.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
But that is you because you, to me, your essence,
like the George essence you are giving hyper intellectual European. Yeah,
and that is that is what you are, and that
is how you are dressed. This is how a very successful, gorgeous,
smart European man dresses.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And your and your archetype you're assigned at birth is like.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Stepsister, well no, it's fully evil stepmother liked.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I don't want to aid you up and say stepmother, honey.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Mothers can come in any age and stepmothers there are
mothers that are fifteen.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's very true.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
You knows TV show, We actually.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Need to stop assuming mothers are old can be fifteen.
In fact, maybe maybe they all are.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah that's it. Oh wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
It's have you ever tried to like really break out
of your norms and be like, you know, today I'm
full Rick Owens or something.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh you would you could do Ricco.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I think because I think that I like, I
think that I'm like the ven diagram of the two
of you. I think I am like I think I
meet in the middle.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Half preppy, yeah, half European until your words European until
I correct.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I think like I can do a Rick Owens moment.
But I think, yeah, I mean, I definitely have tried
to like experiment with like my look.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
But don't you think you're also Carolyn Bessett Quiet Luxury,
uh Tribeca in nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I do. But my one pushback to that is and
I do, and I obviously eat. That's the highest compliment
one can achieve because she's so chic. The older I get,
the more I also do like color and pattern and fun.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Like I was wearing full gray, full gray in the
Black Belgians. Fullis jewelry.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I have poncho and and a navy purse.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
There's in that navy.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I just want to say.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
God, I love a pop of color like olive.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's so exciting because all gray outfit with.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
No, I guess yes, but I do sometimes like to
be funky town, like sometimes I it's Sam's wedding. For example,
I was in like a colorful dress, a fringe, and
I was wearing like pink pumps, yeah, wed lavender, lavender Todds.
Of course, I was wearing my gray caprice. Yeah, my

(23:05):
beige shawl.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Canary yellow exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Actually, it's funny that you say that, because I have
been hunting what a yellow lacasse a canary yellow birbery
quilted jacket.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You remember that.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm going to tell you this Carrie Bradshaw wears one
season three, season three or four, She's in some chaotic outfit,
you know. Asking about style in interventions iterations, there have
been moments like as I've gotten older, where i can
be watching sex in the city and then I'll notice

(23:43):
I'm wearing socks and pumps and like a mini short
and like a fucking crazy top, and I'm like, what
is this? I think I'm Carrie Bradshaw. Sometimes I can
do that, and then when I do that, like like
the other day, I showed up to dinner with Mitra

(24:03):
and I was wearing like like rumpled down socks with
like metallic pink heels and like black capris and then
like a and I'm just like what is it? And
I truly was like, I'm so sorry. I was watching
Sex in the City as I was getting to come here.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
You know what it is with you, You never know
if you're gonna get Carrie where it's JP there you go, yeah,
saying which Greta is gonna come.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Which cred is gonna come?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Wow? Yeah, that's really scary.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
But you know what I also think is scary now.
And I was just thinking about Club Comic and like
at the time it's like, yeah, Sam's iconic solo show
and it's like bondage, leather harnesses whatever. To me, all
of that is now so mainstream.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's it's really.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Wearing a leather harness. Like you could show up to
a meeting at fucking Kaiser Permanente and in a leather harness.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And respect you.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
They would like you could go to your finance job
and like a tasteful leather harness.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well, there was like there's a Taylor Swift picture where
she's like wearing like the futurest female shirt.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
No, she's wearing a this is my fight song T
shirt and she's wearing a harness in wrong side? What's
it called? Like backwards backwards? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
There was then sorry that European she was wrong backwardswards?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Uh no, the harness. The harness had like a two
year period where it was actually a g yes, because
but before that it was like just sex. And then
it was like whoa, it's crazy to wear this out
in public. And then it was like okay, now it's
tilly chilam, it's that target.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Can I actually say something about the harness? I think,
like cultural historians will uh pinpointed as like when we
moved from slower trends to tiktokified faster trends. I think
the speed with which the harness went from subcultures to
Timothy shallow mate to literally like lame, Like now you look,

(26:20):
if you were to wear harness now on a red carpet,
it would be so two thousand and late, like it's
no longer cool and it's only been like a couple
of years. I really think that like set the stage
for the sort of like schizophrenic TikTok fashion mix and
match algo thing that we're dealing with now, where suddenly
you're in lavender Todds.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Right, I'm the Lavender Todds and I'm wearing underwear. You
know what I mean. I went, you know, it's like
and I'm wearing my crown.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Ye closes in full andree.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah. Well, it's like when all of a sudden we
saw Jamie Lee Curtis's titters. Remember but a few months
ago you do not remember this.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
There was a photo where it's like, suddenly, Jamie Lee
Curtis has like giants just stock.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's amazing, it's incredible, and I loved it and I
was like, oh my god, that is freedom.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah no, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
One of our great one of our true comedic greats
insane person, but a really true comedic great.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, well, you have to be insane, that's right. I know.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's like we all are.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Good luck not being insane.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean expect literally, what do people expect from Jamie
Lee Curtis for her to be like I read this
interesting article in the New York that you're not going
to get that.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I have this thing recently where I watched A Beautiful Mind.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh well, thank you for bringing up.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Go ahead, I watch a Beautiful Mind on a plane
and I had never seen it before.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Was it on our plane?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It was on the plane back.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Okay, but sorry, Sam and I have a plane. No
good deal.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
We rode the same plane together.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, But I watched A Beautiful Mind and it was like,
you know, spoiler alert to all, yeah, when he's like
he's like a genius, but then he's like, oh god,
I'm seeing people. It's all made up. They're all fake
and every like all the patterns I've been seeing are
just me losing my mind, which I think is obviously genius.
And it's an amazing commentary on mental health where actually,
if you just ignore it, it.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Goes away away. You want to know about price.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
It's good. It's good for you if you're mentally ill,
ignore it.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, and get into that chemistry lab and get cooking with.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Obviously, because I was like, wait, this movie is to
die for. It's incredible. And then I was sort of
like thinking about how, like I do think when people
get really good at like acting or like comedy, like
you have to like allow your mind to loosen up
enough where you're kind of soft going insane, yes, and
then and like some people can hold it together for

(28:45):
the whole life. But some people obviously just lose their
fucking mind, yes, and just start seeing patterns where there
are none, And like.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Some people stop having the ability to lose their mind.
And that's like a whole other thing that I think
we see in performers.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Were Rebel Wilson go on, she used to have a
sense of.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Play, right, people can be like they exactly like they
used to have this thing that's just like gone, like
where to go? And I Lindsay Lohan honestly, I mean
I have Yeah, you're really interesting. You're just attacking women,
a lesbian and a bisexual woman.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well you know, it's almost as though they lost their
sense of play because society was so hard on them
that it was like siphoned was beaten out of them.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm sure, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm trying to think if that has ever happened to
a man.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Oh yeah, A million and one.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Like, who is a man that used to be has
have such a sense of play and imagination as a younger?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I have one. I have one, no, go ahead, well
not an actor, okay, hear me out.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's a musician kid rock.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah okay, yeah, well he to me, he just went
so insane.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Like but he's fully just lost his mind. Yeah, and
it's not that he's lost times of plays that he
has like too much.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, you're absolutely right that it happens more with male
musicians than with male actors, because male actors are just
like rewarded as they get older.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Mel Gibson, I would say, like he really like.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Fuck, well, he just became insane. But don't you think
that if you put Mel Gibson on a set and
you were like action, who would still like put in
a really amazing performance to.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Sorry, I mean I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I wouldn't want him to be on that side.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
This is a good thought experiment.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know, like I legitimately think he would if
anything is so crazy now that it would be like
an even better You think he'd yeah, whereas I think like,
oh Kanye, whereas I think, oh Kanye yeah. But again,
we're literally looking for the opposite for people who have
It's like this, I have one.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I have one, but I don't think it can be
I don't want it to be recorded, Okay, Okay, like
I needed this to be deleted.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
This will not be recorded. I think what I think?
What in the beautiful mind metaphor is that I'm trying
to think people that like just lose a sense of reality.
It can either be play or no completely. And I
think that's where the.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Because you have to, as you're saying, it's necessary to
lose reality a little bit so that you can create
and create outside the confines of the real world. But
then you have to be able to be like and
that's done. Time to do a promo video at the
Kandye and ass video offices.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
But then, you know, then we could get into the
bigger conversation. And I am I am reading a book
on new physics right now.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So this new physics, new physics, old physics is what
old physics is over over new physics, Sailor House.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
You said, Sailor has Lavender Todds Capri capris, So tell
is this sort of string theory.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
There's strength theory in there. But I guess the point
is about losing touch with reality.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Then we can get into the head of your conversation
of what is reality but our own perceived you know.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
And now you're getting into the Kanye territory.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
And now we're getting into Kanye and.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
This is how you get created. But how you lose it.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
But I will say this on a serious note.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Okay, thank you for getting serious.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I went to my acupuncturiss last night. Diva had an
incredible suession. This was on the plane, on the play
on our plane, our acupunctiss. Yeah did you say you
were just with julieta song?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I was getting deep tissue.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So that's someone who lost the sense of play. Yes,
definitely great example. Here's what I would like to make
an announcement. If you are a hacker, like I need.
I need the vigilante hackers to rise. I need the
v for vendettas to rise. I need Anonymous to actually

(32:44):
do the damn thing. You know what I mean? Because
this is for Anonymous. You guys fill us with so
much hope. There was a moment there where you were
my Christmas morning, you were you know what I'm saying,
And I was like, I truly was like, we are
going to be okay because we have a hacker community

(33:05):
called Anonymous that has our back.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's You're so right. It's it's how capitalism ruins everything
because hackers are just trying to steal your money. Yeah, hello,
that's what you should be doing. You need to be
releasing the code correct, and like, get.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Release the codes.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
At least release the files.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
All that I'm asking the release put them on.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Can someone just release the files?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Take the phone, upload the pdf to Times Square, let
the world see.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's it, the big Spotify vertical one that would scrolls.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Take that over.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yes, we baillboards in Hollywood where all they do is
put one ad for some peacock show so that the
star can see it when they're driving home. Put the
PDF there for the.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
VIDIA there saying you know what the thing is. It's
like they're hackers, but they're not dreamers.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, I wonder have hackers collectively lost their sense of hunch?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
You're absolutely right, and you know why. And to say this,
there were a few bad apples and suddenly everyone was like,
all hackers are evil in cells. All hackers are you know,
like uh, you know, toxic. They're not girl with the
dragon tattoo, right, they're actually secretly doing sexual assaults, right.

(34:19):
And then and so then all of the all the
good ones were like, oh, I don't want to be
associated with this. I guess I'll just like sort of
get a job at the Apple Genius Bar and then
like do a Twitch stream at night, and it's like,
how about you go back to your roots and release
the files.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Release the file, Juliana Lossange.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, no, that's true. Good. Bad, Well, it's complicated. It's
complicated because he released the files files. That's good, that's good.
Then there were various accusations against him. Obviously that's bad.
But then of course you start you start doing beautiful
Mind and you're like, we're the accusations levied by people
who didn't want the files to be released.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Becomes a very slippery slope because then then now now
were conspiracy theorists, you know what I'm saying, And Juliana
Songs not necessarily conspiracy theory, but we have seen historically
that when you do something there are bigger powers that
can ruin your life, and that can you know.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I love this podcast, and here's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Pamela Anderson, as we know, best friend with Juliana Song,
and at some point I think that they were seeing
each other at some point. And if pam Anderson, who
I do believe is pure, I was going to say
energetically pure mind, body, spirit. Yeah, if she is letting

(35:43):
him in, that's a.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Friend of mine exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Someone, by the way, lost her sense of play, gained
it back. Yes, lost her sense of play because she
was beaten down. Yes, found herself in her garden and
with Julian.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yep gained And you know what, I actually think it's
speaking of losing sense of play and getting it back
that I think it really helped her too. And was
her son that was like son, but the one that
was the one that was like people love you like
people really love you. And I think kind of if

(36:20):
we want to talk about like the Lindsay Lohan of
it all too, it's like Lindsay, like, we fucking.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Love son, so you can grow up.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
And I love this is why we need to be
having sons to remind mothers love literally you know it's true,
it's true, but we do need. I need more hacker
activity like sap a sap well.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
And I think here's a way in rick Owens. Yes,
your models, yes should be hackers period. Oh my god,
to rebrand hackers not as bad but as she and
as fashion.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Let's put this out into the ether. Yes, the next
rick Ohens show, because you know it's always a thing
hacker live like they are live hacking and maybe they
make like harnesses. We can have some harness play that
has computer and they're hacking down.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
The runway, you know, so it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
I think that that is a screen.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, the files, yes, yes, the file.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
They're live hacking. And as they release one file, it's
on the screen, they release another file, it's on the screen.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Here's a question, what are and I want to hear
both of your answers separately.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
That's crazy. We normally answer the same time.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, Well when you hear the exact same answer, the
exact same word, same time. What is your what are
your dream what's your dream file? To be released?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Okay, wow, this is a dream file?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah. Like you get to pick you're you We are
in our bunker, okay, and we just cracked open like
geyser level files. You get to pick one file to
release into the world. I want what when't you picking?
Why are you picking it? And what do you think

(38:13):
the fallout will be for humanity?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I want the file that's like this is like it's
a bit of a safe choice. Okay, and I'm sorry
that I'm choosing the safe choice. George and I had
a conversation yesterday how we want to be edgy.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, my love, you are Americana prep. Having the safe
choice is very un brand for you, and let's embrace that.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Let's embrace the safe choice. I have it. I want
the file release that's photographs, okay, and it's photographs of
like like evil Republicans. But they're like like laughing it
up with who we think are good democrats and it's
like in a secret layer and behind them it's like

(38:54):
there's like a formula where it's like you guys win
this year, we win this year. That's how we keep
everyone in the cycle. And I go, oh my god,
it's true. They're all in kahotes.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Have they sacrificed? Is like did they sacrifice something? Like
is there like some sort of sacrificial Are you thinking
like the Illuminatis.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It's like it's not necessarily illuminati as much as like
high business. It's like high business and it's sort of
like they're negotiating, like with with a big lawyer about
like how each of them will profit this much if
they do it this way. And that's that's what I
hope for.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Listen, Obviously, there's a serious answer that's like about war,
and I'm not going to go there. Here's what file
I want.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Really, I want to hear that serious answer.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Show me specifically which civilians have been murdered by which presidents? Right, Okay,
fair enough. Now my other answer is I want the
files showing what numbers across social media have been completely fabricated.
There are people completely fo we know, by the way,

(39:59):
people that haven't really foloer accounts. There are things. It
is known that TikTok has a button that you that
some people have access to that they compress that can
make something go viral. I want to know exactly which
you know, pieces of content, which videos, which personalities were
at some point helped by a by a fake by

(40:23):
fake numbers, you know what I mean? By the way,
did you know people are getting paid to post on threads? Sure?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
George blew this whole thing up for me. People are
getting paid.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, what your desire is is not just similar from
my desire, because what you're kind of saying is like,
you want to know what content out there is basically a.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
SiO Exactly it is. It's literally the definition of like
or like industry plant Right, that's real. I want to
know which people that I sorry, I'll say one thing.
At this point, I understand that Kylie Cosmetics is successful.
In the beginning, it was fake. In the beginning. That
was fake. Yes, we all know it. I'm not an idiot. No,

(41:04):
it was fabricated that this was a successful business, and
then because of that, people started buying it, being like, okay,
well there's already momentum. I'm joining in and now I
get it it's a successful business. I want to know
exactly which levers were pulled to make it seem like
a successful business. Year one.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Wow, really, what's what file do you want to release?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Well? This, I feel like now I get to say too,
because me and George kind of have similar something we.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
All had to say different ones.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
That you created.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So I just find it interesting that you make the
rules and then you get to break down. I just
find that interesting, you know, when we're talking about conspiracies,
I can't.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Help but wonder who's Operation one pair of Belgians and
she is the king of the world.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm sort of the stepmother, so I might say, so, yeah,
I get to make I get to have to know.
What I was going to say is I want to
know which celebrities pop stars and this also like can
bleed down to influence it. Influence are syops like completely
because there are some people, and I've been noticing this

(42:06):
more and more people that just like pop the fuck
up where I'm just like, something ain't right, and I'm
gonna tell you my conspiracy theory right now. I think
the Dmilio sisters, I think they tried it. I think
they were like, I think we have something with these too,
and I don't think that they can fully execute on it,
which is why now no one gives a fuck about them.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, because to.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Your point, it was like, oh, they all went really
viral and like they were the most the most followed person.
One person who cares about them is Charlie Demilio.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Show me one person who cares about her.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
To me, I'm just like, what happened?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Well, this is complicated. There's something I've been working on,
a theory called foot fetish theory, and it's like it's
this thing where it's like deeply, deeply popular, and yet
everyone I know is like, not me, not me, not me,
not me, And I'm like, I know upload one thousand people,
all of them say not me.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
The people you know, sexually depraved about their kings, they
have other kings. There are people eating ship.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah, they're fish fish in my mouth. Foot.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I don't know about feet.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
And yet it's the most popular thing online, and so
I'm so confused the disconnect between reality internet.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Foot fetish is the Demelio Sisters of.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Ai is put fetish. Everyone's like, not me, and it's like, okay,
this is so popular though the.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Foot foot fetish. Foot fetish has been fabricated by Anglican
Christian males to say to their wives, honey, it's just
I'm just in defeat, okay. And really what they're into
is sub piggy play and women in cages.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
And they literally are also being like they're trying to
find a way conspiratorial to cover up people more. They're
being like, covet those covet those.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Don't show those feet, don't show that. Yeah, and it's like.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
You can't make up a new thing to hide.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Also, no free feet picks, this things up.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Foot fetish theory is huge.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
No foot fetish theories.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Back to the other no free feet picks something is.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
No free feet picks.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
This is something people really genuinely believe.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
It actually makes me furiated.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It's like a yes, no free feet, picks and face
for algo. I'm like, can you literally like do a
cold ice bath and reset your brain?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Who started this? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Who started this?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
People post photos of themselves and use an emoji feet.
I'm just like sweating.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
What do you think is going to happen? Someone's going
to jerk it to your feet? I don't care. And
you don't think they're going to jerk it too? Sorry,
the rest of your body where you have all of
your you have all of your genitals like basically out
in this photo, but you're ding your feet shut off.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
It's crazy. Oh wait, the other file that I want
to release, Yes, I want to release I think I
really Mine's basic too, Mine's Classic Bake Basic. I want
to release it. I know that we kind of have,
but I want to release the Aliens. I know, literally,
just show us, just show us. I want I want

(45:41):
to see in Times Square, in the long Spotify billboard.
I want to see the anatomy of the Aliens. I
want to see it like laid out, like like we're
in bones.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, I know, in the billboard Times Square, I want
you to open up the moment exhibit aliens we found. Yeah,
yes they are there. Yes, their bodies are there. And
you say, here's pretty much what we found. And there's
a big long placard next to it that sounds like,
so this alien mostly leads grass and lives in blah
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's what I need, you know, how, like do it
at the frick.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
You know what I'm saying, coming up on our podcast
like a new trending character and you know, I still
haven't been.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
All right, you know what that's doud? I agree like
MoMA Whitney, like, let's make it a moment.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Well, I like what you're saying. I like what both
of you are saying, because to involve the art world
in it. Yeah, Actually, I do think that's what is
needed in the rebranding of the hackers, is like they're artists,
like they are, they're part of the creative community, because
I think people think of them as almost like government.
I mean, I understand that they're anti government anonymous, but
they think of them as like computer dark. You know,

(46:50):
they're they're getting your personal information scary. Like I think
we need to bring back this sort of digital optimism
in the art world.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I agree. I also think like, I'm sorry, Emily in Paris.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Television, I'm like, where are you going with this?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
She's sign up number one, number two, number two. Let's
why Why isn't Emily in Paris a hacker?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Hello, yeah, she loves like social media so much and
she gets on like Reddit.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Second about why isn't she hacker?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah? Yeah? Like are we the only ones?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Like?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Are we the only ones asking the hard question?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Well, the way that was actually proved, the way that
Emily and Paris was like, Okay, no one's actually loving
the show? Why to win this award? And then it
was proven that it was because like they were bought, yes,
and it was like okay, so it really was like
not beloved.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Like the fact that the fact that ratings across the
streaming era are simply openly faked. Yes, and no one is,
but you're still meant to pretend they're not. Like you
see the Netflix top ten, You're like you made this up?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, you can just made it up.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Also, like sorry, one other person that I would die
to know if they were, because I think they were
Andy Warhol.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
That is really interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
That is interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I'm just saying that's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I mean if Andy Orle is that all of New
York is? I mean, honey, the seventies. There's no photographic
for the seventy ovelo Underground. I mean, this is getting cral.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
You know, that's why they call developed underground. No one
above ground never saw those.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, put that in your special George develot on a round, Honey.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
There was another thing.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Not to be so obvious. But I do also want
to know exactly in Hollywood which men are gay and
who has had sex with him?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
When you die, it should come out.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Come on. Yeah, I've heard of a fair I've heard
of a threesome that happened at Juilliard, which I can't
mention because I will be shot. There's going to be
a laser on my forehead.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
But you need to mention it to us off air.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Well, of course, yes, I've heard of a three someme
that happened at Jilliards. I mean, I'll say it now
and then we'll believe it.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
It's and I believe.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Sure, that's very believable.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
No, no, sorry, yeah, I want to know if that happened.
And I'm sorry, sorry. I want video footage.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
I want video Olympics. But I'm sure it happened.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
It doesn't even sound far from that.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
No, it sounds cozy average. Yeah, I have a crazy story. Okay,
but I can't that I need to tell off air.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
You'll tell.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
But it's about three suns. Okay, it's about Hollywood celebrity.
Three sounds.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I mean Hollywood clebrity threasons. People don't know the kinds
of depraved things that are happening in the Hollywood Hills. Yeah,
we're talking foot fetishes.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I live in those hills, and honey, weird things are happening.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Prvy, pervy stuff, pervy stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Do you want to know my my topic?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Oh yes, yes, Well wait, we need to do our
first second.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Okay, let's very quickly do a first segment and then
go right into your topic because it's a really good topic.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Okay. Our first time is hell straight shooters in this thing?
When we ask you a series wrapping questions, basically this
thing is this the other thing? The only rules can't
ask the follow questions were screaming you okay, okay, gret
up Triple Axel or Little Rascal to.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Bleaxel began, Todelini or Linda Cardelini, Linda Cardlini, going to.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
The lake house, or throwing out that stained blouse.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Going to the lakehouse, Nice Jacob Alordi, or eating disorder.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Eating disorder, losing the thread or oohing from head.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Oohing from head.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Oh. This was a listener submitted one from David shout
out listener David Epinephrin or Nora Efrin.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh nor Efrin recipe for Disaster or the cinematography in
the Master.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I'm gonna go cinematography in the Master.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Hollywood, Macha la bamatio, don't get.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Hote don quixote?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Wow? Okay, sorry, what's your topic for Breeze?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Fuck Caze? I want to pause. Yeah, I cannot believe
we just spent like forty minutes doing conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
By the way, I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
It went fast ivored episode conspiracy theories for Breez.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
But this is what they want us to do, and
I'm going to say it right now for Breeze. Sigh up.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay for Breeze, and.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I have a lot yeah to say about it.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
So here's here. I'm literally going to give you the
floor after say the sentence. Yeah. On the one hand,
I could see it being a sigh up. On the
other hand, there is something that is so to the
average mind appealing about it that I could also see
it being completely in earnest. It's like people just see
on TV you can have a spray that fixes it, right,

(51:33):
and they're like, well, of course I want that, but
what is that?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
And I'll tell you what that is. Yes, go, do
I have like two minutes.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
To you have literally as much time as you want.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Okay for breeze. Oh, it's been marketed to us as
so many things, room spray, fabric spray. It started as
fabric spray. And the way that that kind of was,
and it always kind of made me sick, was that's stinky.
Don't wash it, just spray it down with for breeze. Huh.

(52:09):
Interesting concept. So you're saying if something's dirty and smells
like shit, that I don't need to wash it. I
can just be a nasty little fucker and spray it
with an aerosol spray that smells putred. Mind you. So

(52:31):
the reason why I think it's a sye op is
it promotes.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
So the question is at culture.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
It's straight culture and straight it's the straightest thing that
it can be. Why, well, First, let's start with that
it's so straight. Specifically, it's for who doesn't have time
to give themselves the pleasure of something that smells good.
A frazzle dazzled mom.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Exactly who doesn't? Guy that it's either frazzled mom who
literally doesn't have time or frat guy that doesn't own
cleaning correct.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Correct, who doesn't have the skill set? Yes, straight men?
Y who is who does not want to learn or
have motivation to learn the skill set? Straight men? And
this is where I go back to SIOP, which is
when we allow people to live in not even mediocrity
sub below actual bare fucking minimum, then we leave them

(53:29):
without skills. So then when we have people without skills,
they become helpless, they become dumb. They're not learning, they're
not growing, they're not challenging themselves. That's for Breeze.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
This is so you're it's it's essentially by I'm actually
loving the conspiracy side of this. Yeah too, it's sort
of like taking away public education, yeah, introducing for breeze. Yes,
where it's like we will have masses that don't know
how to clean correct, so we can control.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Them correct, and we can't.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
They will need us.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
They can't do the laundry. I'm sorry, Like gay people
are doing the fucking laundry always. I have never once
gone into a queer person's home and gone, is that
the putrid smell of like petunia linen that, like it

(54:19):
says in a freeze can never I've never even seen
it in anywhere.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
No, gay people will introduce you to a new brand
of dryer sheets that they got from Denmark. Correct.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I think the educational element is really interesting because what
happens is you take away home economics, like just the
idea of knowing how to live your life, like just
how to you know, how to sew back, how to
sew a button back on a shirt, how to like,
how to clean, how to whatever, and then what you
get is for breeze in the same way that when

(54:51):
you take away civics classes, what you get is Donald Trump.
Like Fabreeze is the Donald Trump of cleaning products. Yes,
it's a quick fix for something that is a systemic problem.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Also, it's of course to sell product. You're making it
so people don't know how to do anything, so they
have to buy a thing to do it for that.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Oh, your room reeks of shit, literally, just like vacuum
clean your floors, and I don't know, spraying a mask
it's a band.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Aid, it's a band aid.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
It's a band aid.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
And straight culture is often putting band aids of a problem.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Well, it's completely and it is a complete lack of
curiosity about where that problem came from. Like you have
a gaping wound, You're not going to think, how did
I get that wound? You're going to put a bunch
of band aids on it and keep going through the woods.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
It's like being cut by every branch in your way.
I would go so far as to say all sprays
are straight. It's one of the straightest forms of matter.
Because if you think about like a body spray instead
of duorant, it's like, no, use a deodorant, yeah, it's better,
Or any kind of room spray instead of a candle.

(55:57):
It's like use a candle.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
It is it's going to be better for your room.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Like Liesol spray exactly, Liesol spray instead of like a
more sort of like viscous type of clean like a spray,
is this promise of a quick fix.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
It's tech.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
It's tech.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
It's tech.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
And also you can't see it isn't that fun? You
just put it in the air. Oh my god, I
didn't even see the thing that you'd all my problems.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Mean, while you're dying slowly because you're inhaling, like you're
the ozone layer within is being.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Distroyed, and you're voting for whoever they tell you to.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And also that.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, and I would just like to list you some
of these I would say, deranged sense that only a
straight mind, only to be honest with you, a straight
male mind would come up with. And let me just
go back off of my todds. Okay, so we of
course have for breeze ocean Jesus Christ. Okay, Now that's

(56:57):
a big concept.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
There's a lot of it's in the ocean, the result
do you mean the trash island floating in the Pacific?

Speaker 3 (57:03):
And if this weren't straight, it would say for breeze
and then it would say coastal Maine.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Now that now specific important.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Now I know what I'm smelling.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Ocean breaks my heart because it's like, so you've never
been there.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
The person that came up with that is like, I
actually saw one movie that was set in the ocean,
finding Nemo and I wonder what it smells like.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, Nemo. Oh my god, I wish it was called
Nemo's Ocean and that would be beautiful, very nice. Now
the next one gain oh the brand correct, and that's Sinister.
That's collabed between for Breeze and Game. So here's and
here's why I think this is so even more dark.

(57:47):
It's You're not going to do your laundry, but I'm
going to make it smell like the laundry. Oh scary.
And now here's one that this one's really sending me
to the void my mind. Is for Breeze scent heavy duty.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Oh no, the.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Scent is heavy duty.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Oh, you're you're throwing a you're throwing a holiday party.
You haven't cleaned your house in five years. You're saying
I'm desperate here. Yeah, again for Breeze heavy duty. Surely
this will fix everything. Yeah, your guests come, they dropped
out on the spot.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, my mother's die of heavy duty. For Breeze inhalation.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
That is so scary.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
The other sense that I'll just quickly say, Bamboo.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I kind of love that one.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Spring and Renewal, Oh my god, I'm gonna cry. Golden
Orchid no cranberry for the holidays.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Holidays. Well, that's kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
And then I do think a gay guy did this.
I think a gay guy did these two bora bora waters.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Oh yeah, and that gay guy is he's forty seven. Yeah,
fillers like you've never seen in your life. Yeah, muscle tank.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Yeah, but guess what he never stopped wearing TODs, never,
never wearing.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
The stomach is hard as a rock.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
He stopped wearing them for one summer when he discovered
the giant ball in August, and he would do muscle
tank giant yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
And then he also named honeysuckle.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah that's fun.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yeah, that's fun, that's cute. Yezy, take me laugh. Oh
he also did Mediterranean lavender.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah travel Yeah, he's like.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Cat him around.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I never want to forget those Mediterranean waters.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
He's next up is for Breeze tea.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
You know, Mediterranean leaven is like leavender isn't Mediterranean? What
are you talking about? Just two things?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Hello, it's a French.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Damn well, that is scary. I don't realize how many
flavors there are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
No, it's it's it's scary. And when i's a yank
candle Yeah, but at least, Yankee candle, you're giving me
kind of back to the conversation of losing your mind
or whatever when you're lighting that candle. Yeah, you're giving
me a sense of play. For breeze. You're giving me
bare minimum. I'm not even thinking about the quality of

(01:00:30):
my life, Yankee candle. You are thinking, Oh, I want
a gorgeous candle in my house. Is that Are those
fragrances for me? No, But that person wants to treat themselves.
They want they want the glow of a candle, feeling
of a candle, to slow burn of a candle, the
for breeze. When I see a can of for breeze
in anywhere that's not a bathroom in a gas station,

(01:00:53):
my heart breaks. I see it and I say, now,
this is a person that needs to put their feet
on the grass and the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And the gas station bathroom is so apt because it's like, Okay,
think about every gas station bathroom you've been to, they
all have a can of for breeze. Now, think about
your home. You're modeling it after a gas station bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
You need to love yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
You know what if you have fa breeze in your
home that you use regularly. I recommend watching Portrait of
Lady on Fire. Yeah, like you need to like experience
a depth of emotion.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I recommend purchasing a silk scarf and just putting it
on your skin, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
And just feeling it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
That's just straight even just like throw it and see
how it lands. That's natural beauty. And then kind of
try to internalize that and say, what if this scarf
were to lead me down a different path exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
And you know what people should know a fun fact
about for Breeze and what led me to this topic
is my home had uh termites very common in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
So they say, that's what my landlord said, very.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Common, very annoying. Guess what is the biggest deterrent for
termites for breeze? Really And this made me respect them
because I said, Wow, they don't want to be anywhere
near They want to eat a hopeful home. They want
to eat a home that you know has soul. Yeah,

(01:02:25):
they smell that for breeze. They say, oh, these people,
I don't want to eat this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
It's like when I when you know, when I when
an animal is raised ethically and period, it takes better.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Homes are the same. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
That's that's really crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I do have so there is a bottle of for
breeze I will admit in my home because of the termites.
But if anybody ever clocks that bottle of for breeze,
which they never would, I would immediately say, and I
want you to know that is where.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
We had a termative and you quickly bring out your
love candle and you hope they forget. You're just like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Answering exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
There's something so funny about fabreez too, where it's like
another straight thing. Is it kind of reminds me of
like a return to sort of the like fifties household. Yeah,
where it's like, oh you have you're sick, try cocaine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Like there's something like that's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
That's what it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
This works by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
It was like these chemicals will save you. It's like, actually,
like it's not really the fixed. Don'ting wrong? What a blast.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Breeze is too. Fabreez is to cleaning what gogurt was
to breakfast food.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Literally, yeah, you know. It's also like to think that
a gorgeous icelandic yogurt with a spoon is a problem
that needs to be fixed. Yeah, and rather than a
luxury you can have in the bar of a boutique
hotel room.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Well, Ellen DeGeneres, she had an amazing gogurt joke in
one of her specials.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Well, she's honestly like a really good community.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Yes, but her whole thing was like, oh I can't
like I can't go to the movies. Oh why I
just cracked open a yogurt. It's not like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Eating a yogurt ta yeah, yeah, it's a free hour.
You know, it's interesting that this has been brought up
when George was trying to scarf the yogurt just one
hour ago. Yogurt actually would have saved.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Incident myself better. You know what. The Yankee kettle comparison
is so interesting to me because here's the difference. Both
are straight, of course, but the Yankee candle customer has
the right instinct and the right desire. They just haven't
been pointed to the correct direction.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yes, like what they want level, We're going to find.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
What they want is what they should want. Like they
want this like cozy comfort thing. They want to bring
a little bit of a Nancy Meyer's vibe to their apartment,
you know what I mean. Whereas the instinct of the
free breeze customer is wrong. If the breeze customer needs
to be stopped, yes and re educated, yes yes, Whereas

(01:05:00):
that Yankee candle customer just needs to be shown like
a slightly better version of being candle.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
And I would say, honestly, I think Yankee candle bisexual
because I think there are a lots you got a
good Bye slash gay consumers where that is all they
have access to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
It's also not like they don't smell bad. The smell
they're a little cloying, but they're not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
No, I just love being like the candles are a
bit cloying, but well they are.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
My mom did something where she bought a giant, giant
Christmas like cinnamon and nutmeg candle, and it's so strong
that you don't have to light it. The entire house
smells like it and she has not removed it from
its perch since two Christmases ago. So every time I
go home, I'm talking, I'm assaulted, sure by the smell

(01:05:48):
of nutmeg and cinnamon.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I mean, I would just like to say Berry's boot
Camp Studio City, the Pumpkin candle is strong strong.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I want to say that, like one of life's great
joys when you live in a town in the Midwest
is going to the mall forty five minutes away and
going into the Yankee candle store and saying, yeah, yum, yeah, Okay,
that one's not for me. Yeah, that's your your your
finding taste.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
You know what I actually think is lower than a
Yankee candle, uh oh? Is are the candles that people
buy that are like cereal, like cereal milk candles, and
then it's like wax made to look cereal cookies and
cupcake candles.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I want to say, a candle should not smell like
food that isn't fruit or vegetable. Yeah, you know what's cheesecake? No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
And it's interesting because like even with fragrance, like I'm
not a huge gormond person in like my fragrance notes.
And I've tried like some of my friends that like
really smell like gorgeous like musky vanilla. I'm like, oh
my god, that's so sexy and like like a sexy
like nineties like bombshell. But I have never those sense

(01:07:12):
to me. Do you prefer I prefer like cleaner citrus.
I love like fig fragrances. I love like green, I
like tomato leaf, I like like basil. I like I
like things that are just cleaner. I like more masculine fragrances.

(01:07:33):
I think I like tobacco not on my skin, but
I like how it smells. Musk doesn't do well with
me because it like turns on my skin. It smells sour.
Fragrance is crazy and it's just like yeah, Sam, like
cut to actually, let's make this a clip. Okay, we're
gonna George. I're gonna rattle off a bunch of sense
and they're just gonna slowly fall asleep. Okay, some tall.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Geranium, hydrangea, lavender, cannabis, oh, cannabis.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
No. I sometimes can I say this is when people
describe fragrances, I check out. When people describe food.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
You check in, I'm out, you're out out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
When someone's like like when i'm I want the man,
you just say, like it's the chicken. With like this,
this and this have three words. You can say I
have a theory about you with this. But when someone's like,
like someone's describing food and they're like yeah, it's actually
like really like the garlic is in there, and there's
like this buttery thing that really brings it out. And
there's like we use some citrus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
That's like the chicken with a bright light.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
And I'm just like, okay, like, get to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
The point which speed it out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Is it spicy? Is it? What? What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
You want them to be like, it's a spicy chicken
and the skin is really cristy, and it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
You get you get four words.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
I think your thing with this is you want to
maintain the sense of wonder about the world and you
don't like when it's over explained to you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
And I actually that's a positive read. No, I would
love if that's true. Sometimes I'm like, I'm just like,
don't lie. Like I'm like, you can say all these
words to me, what does it taste like?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Yeah? I I also get frustrated when people like don't
tell me the process.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yes, oh I hate I know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Like, Well, we picked it up, we spatchcocked it, and
then we brined it for about twenty four hours. After
that brining period, we were able to lock it in
with some preserved lemon and we did that using sugar
that we got in scents. It's like shut off enough.
Yeah enough. Also, I'm sorry if anyone says mouth feel
to me, don't say it. The same person saying mouthfeel

(01:09:47):
putting little hearts over their feet and picks that is
the same person.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
God. Wow, Wow, this has been a really ground give
a word to Greta goes too Cigaretta title.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
No, I going back to my acupuncturist, right, which I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Don't think we ever got to the bottom of the line.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah, yeah, let's circle back. So what happened with the
acupuncturists we're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Wonder we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
About and the acupuncturists has maintained their sense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Of play, Oh absolutely, but the feeling of people either
going crazy or losing it. And I have been feeling
like I've just been feeling this thing and being like
can I like, you know, when you get in those
modes where it's like, can I think of any idea?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Can I think of any new joke? Can I think
of any like? Do I experience life?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
What is that? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
What is happening? And and he and then yesterday I
had a day where I was like, wow, I feel
really like creative today, And he was like We're going
to focus on opening up your doors, because it's like
the feeling of like the doors whatever in my mind whatever.

(01:10:58):
It was like, I felt like the doors of possibility
were open. And I like that analogy of like feeling
like my mind had all these doors that were open
and I could like walk through them and explore them,
and I think of, you know, maybe some the Rebel
Wilson example, it's like, oh, I just feel like the
doors in hermitage. And then you have to have the

(01:11:19):
door because then if you don't have the door, then
you become Kanye inevitably, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
What it has to be able to close to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Yes, though, it's like their doors blown out and they
did open concept. Yeah, some people have gone fully open
concept of year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
The kitchen is in, the toilet is in the bedroom exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, No, it's and and And they were rewarded for
going loft. You're a genius. This is an amazing debut album.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
We need we need the people that have the loft minds. Yes,
but you can't permanently live in the loft.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
At some point you're going to put up a curtain, correct,
at least beaded curtain maybe yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Sheer screen, Yeah, yeah, to loft. To I was something like,
I go loft, like when I take acid, I'm going loft,
you know what I'm saying. And to me, I'm like, oh,
this is why psychedelics are useful. It allows me to
go loft. And then after this experience, I'm like, oh,

(01:12:22):
I know I can go loft. I had fun going loft,
and I'm going to take experiences from going loft. The
reason why my door's open not to say that this
is all all about substances and substance abuse, but like,
I've been dealing with a lot of anxiety and finally,
two nights ago, I took a kalonapin and I woke
up and my anxiety had subsided, and huh, I'm not
in that anxious state anymore. And all of a sudden,

(01:12:45):
like the doors crack open a little bit and I'm
in a relaxed state and I'm able to like have
that conscious experience.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if I will ever be able
to fully go loft because I to me, I think
my vibe vibe and you know, feel free to disagree.
I feel like what I try to do is that
my doors are cracked open, and I'm kind of like
and then I go back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Not everyone needs to go loft.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah, yeah, you're not meant to go I'm not meant
to go loft.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I think that I think that you can go loft.
I think going loft and implies implies a loss of control, yeah, which,
And I think that that's a misunderstanding because I think
that you can still go loft while being in control.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
M h.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
And I think that I'm a control freak. We're all
control freaks here in this very space, this room, as
I think a lot of ambitious people are, because we're like,
you know, like that constantly. And I think that going
loft could also be like moments where you're truly relaxed
and where you're like in the moment of being like wow,

(01:13:53):
like I'm really relaxed and I'm like really in my body.
I think that like meditation can be going loft. I
think that the things that just get us to be
out of here, out of this, out of the lavender TODs, exactly,
out of the lavender TODs and into the Mediterranean lavender field.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
Whoa no every time basically every time I receive an email,
a door closes, like I'm like, oh, door, Like every
time I'm like okay today, I'm writing all afternoon and
I get one email and my door closed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Well, it's like when when you get a phone call,
Like when I see like a rep calling me, I'm
like up, career over hello, you know what. It's like,
that's the thing, and it's all fear based.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
No, it's my doors are becoming panic room with Jodie Foster,
it's like they are they are, you know, builded, steal
bolted to the ground for trying to get it in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Yeah, it's Caroline Politic. You open the door to another
door to another door.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Yeah wait, that is about like not being able to
go loft. You open the door to another door to
another door.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Annoy thing is like when you know you can go
loft and you feel like you can't, like you're not
like you're doing this and you're just like I want
to go loft. I want to go loft. It's like
the feeling here is like I have so much to say,
like I need like I have so much to give,
like let me give it. And I think that we
all in this business. It's like there are nine million

(01:15:22):
other people that need to give us permission to give
what we want to give when really all that we
want to do release the files.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Really release the files.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I can't believe the movements of this episode like this,
I guess fashion conspiracy theory, fabreeze career advice.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
To be honest, release when we are when we were
at our most, you know, flying through the air in
this episode, Like, yes, I felt like I went loft,
and I honestly think not to get too emotional. I
honestly think like my most loft moments in my life
over the last six years have been when Sam and
I reach a place of like full brain meld and

(01:16:04):
I can like actually let go because what it is
is we are building. We have adjacent apartments and we're
knocking down the walls and building and building one big.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
And you're building the city.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Yeah. No, that's really true. That's really true. Dream Wow, amazing,
what a absolutely true delight.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
And can you leave? This is me one and a
half cold brew. Really I'm actually only one, and well
we did go offt full long.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
This is my second and to be honest, like it's
I'm shaking, yeah, and I have I think I'm gonna
go to the gym after this, and I'm gonna lift
five million pounds. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Should we do our final set? Yes, our final segment.
It's called shout Outs, and we pay amash to the
Grand Street tradition of the radio shout out. Shoutout anything
that we enjoy, people, places, things, ideas, and we think
of them on the spot. We think of them on
the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
And I have something that I want to shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Little you go first, because reason it never happens.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
You go, oh wait, it's fine. You're a veteran of
the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
I just came to me, I and this is gonna
be so. I actually hate that I'm trying this out,
But I'm going to Apollo Bagels in New York City.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I bit into one of their bagels and guess what
it brought me an immense amount of joy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, that's one of the ones you hear about. You're like,
that's the trendy place that everyone's going to. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Line, here's the thing. I'm not a bagel. I'm not
a big old person. I'm not when saying I guess
what never when Land of Courage Bagels, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I walked by Apollo bagels, no line, ordered myself a
little whitefish salad on a bagel. I got it. It
was so good. I I despise people that eat and
walk in especially in New York. I'm like, this is
not the place, this is not your dining room. I understand,
we're all in a rush. This is New York City
today that never sleeps. We're moving, We're moving and moving,

(01:17:53):
and why minute I get a diva pulled it aside
and eat or just like I was walking and eating
with this bigel. It was so divine and I was
just like you know when you have that one where
you just say it is amazing. Yeah, and I really
just I think it is so good. I want to
shout that out. And I would love to just shout

(01:18:15):
out Algian lofers once more, shout out I'm one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Okay, you go first.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
I might have done this one or mentioned I've never
done it as a shout out, so I'm just going
to do it. But if I've mentioned it before, don't comment,
access the loft and move on. Okay, what's up crazy?
What's hold on?

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Oh wait, what's the style of radio?

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I didn't do that. Oh it's fine, Okay, what's up,
New Yorkers. Welcome dezar on New York. Thank you so
much for getting out there and making your voice heard.
I want to give a shout out to the bread
and Tomato cocktail at Schmuck the Bar in the East
Village Greta. You have to go there. It opened only
the last couple of years. It's after your time in

(01:18:58):
New York. They do this cocktail and I'm not normally
like an artisanal cocktail girl. It tastes like dipping a
piece of bread into the remnants of a tomato salad.
It has that freshness of like the tomato and olive oil.
And literally they do toast infused vodka, so it kind
of tastes like toast. I'm telling you, this is exactly

(01:19:20):
the kind of thing that like would go TikTok viralin.
I would be rolling my eyes. I went there, I
ordered it. My eyes were ready to roll, I said,
ready set had I had them primed so that they
were about to do this. Instead they rolled to the
back of my head because of a head good. It
was wow wow, yeah to shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I think I've maybe done this before, but just to
bring it back down to earth, what's up everyone around
the globe. I want to give a shout out to
the frozen pizza that is Dejorna. I have to go
a bit for breeze on this, and I have to
say that Doorno pizza takes me back to childhood in
a way that maybe nothing else does. When I'm having
a Dogorno pizza, I say, I am a kid. I

(01:19:59):
am playing video games and just wait an hour, I'm
about to get break and bake cookies. There's something about
the softness and the sort of there's an uncanniness to
a Dijoorna sweetness. There's a sweetness to a dessert. It's
a dessert, and it's a dessert pizza. And of course
do I want every day? No, But when I come home.
I came home from New York and I said, I

(01:20:21):
don't want to order freaking La pizza. I want to
get a Doorno. It's not delivery, and I and it
was the best thing I could have ever had that night.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
I can't say it's nice. Yes, please, it's not for breeze.
Even I use the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Oven, You're using the damn oven. That's cooking, as far
as I'm concerned, is cooking so shout out to Dejorno.
I don't know what you guys are doing, but never
ever change love that X Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
That's Domino's for me. I have to say Dominoes. I'm like,
I'm in my childhood, anything as possible, and I'm ready
to press play on my big fact Greek wedding, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
And that's funny because that is Pizza Hut for me.
I was a Pizza Hut. We were at Pizza Hut.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
We were a Domino family, and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Then we were a pizza family that transitioned to a
dominance family.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
A moment where we transitioned to Papa John's and then
I got like sickly addicted to that garlic butter sauce,
and then the hospital well, and then I was like
this is too much, and then my mom kind of
was like I don't want to see you eating that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Okay, so you know, wow, Well this has been amazing, Aerda.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Would you like to promote your tour dates?

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Well, see, here's the little here's a little a few weeks. Well,
here's the thing. Yeah, here's what I want you to do.
I want you to follow me on Instagram, okay at
girdie Bird or I want you to follow me on
TikTok honestly really either either or because I am taking
I'm not you know, I'm taking a little hiatus from
tour as we entered into the new year. But then

(01:21:50):
in twenty twenty six, I will be going to Philadelphia,
I will be going to my hometown Washington, d C.
And I will also be back in New York, and
I'll be doing the show back here in LA and
you know, maybe a bunch of other places. I think
I think I'm going to try and go to Toronto.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
What do you think? We love Toronto and I'm going
next week. So wow, I'm moderating Alison Roman's book of it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Oh my god, not to bras So yeah, just kind
of keep your eyes in this space and period.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
That's what we're always.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
I'm in your city.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Release the files well, and by the way, release the
files if you take what if any hackers are listening,
please release the five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
We trust your politics. We know you're good people.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Start like literally just start.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
We would love help. If anyone out there that's cooking
the numbers wants to work with us, we could definitely
use more followers.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Totally cook those numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
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