"Fishing" w/ Monét X Change

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Podcast starts. Now, Wow, what's up everyone? You're listening to
Stradio Lab in New York City, the last of a
string of gorgeous recording.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
String of gorgeous recordings. I mean, I'm sorry, but it's like,
who else is doing Julio Torres, Adam Friedlin money Exchange?
I would like to know? No, I just want to know,
literally curious, because I'm not I've listened to these other girls.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm just not pritty.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I haven't heard of anyone doing it like we are.
I'm open to write in suggestions.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
This is an amazing thing you're doing. Do you think
we need to start a beef?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh? Well, I think we need to do something as
answer to your question, because the stocks are tumbling. Stock
are tumbling, bocks are tumbling, and they've never been lower.
This is sort of like when everyone bought games stop
and then sold.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It, you know how, like in the fifties or whatever,
like and maybe even now, like a publicist would be like, hey, like,
so so you are actually gonna date this actress because
you both have movies coming out, and like just do
it for a year and like then you're like it's
gonna be It's gonna help everybody. I think we need
agents for beefs. We need to be like I want
to set up a beef with another podcast that is

(01:28):
like gonna be mutually beneficial and like just for a year,
like so you guys can like post how much you
hate them, they'll post how much I hate you, and
both of you will become wildly successful from it. I'm what, sorry,
I have an amazing question for our guests, but we
can't bring her in yet. I have an amazing question. Fuck, okay,
can we bring her in? Yeah, please art to the
podcast to exchange. I just had a genius thought. Unfortunately, Yes, unfortunately,

(01:56):
sometimes you can't choose when you have a genius thought.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
It strikes you on the on the toilet a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh, I'm going to the bathroom right now.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
When Okay, So when drag race girls fight, uh huh
do you ever think like this is gonna be mutually beneficial? Like,
are you ever like I gotta get to talk the
girls talking about me, so I'm gonna start a fight?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know, I don't think so, because I think drag
queens are so narcissistic and self and self centered. They
think that they are the one they think that I
don't need to start no beef with no bitch because
I am that girl. I was like, you're not went
home third and you're not that girl, you know, So
I don't think they intentionally start them. Also, the drag
race fans take it so seriously sure that when girls fight,

(02:40):
they're like, oh and like it's like literally like name
calling on on Twitter and they're like, I can't believe
the fandom X like this, and they get they get
so up and on, they get so but heard of
when girls have little tists back and forth like Willem
and Mistress Isabelle Brooks, that whole thing. Even how Mistress
got on on the show, people were so the fans
are so up in arms, like she is such a conniving,

(03:02):
nasty troll. I can't believe she would treat and talk
to me like girl, it's fucking tell oh it's kind
of cursed. Yeah, it's fucking television, like please. So yeah,
I don't think the defans.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Will be well because then if you don't do that,
then you're accused of being boring and not having a personality.
So like you gotta like pick one thing like this
to me is like goal.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Oh yeah, dragons friends are Goldilocks. Like they just it's
too mean, it's too nice, it's too hot. They cannot
find a happy medium besides just enjoying television, and let
it be television.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's insane. It is insane. I think going forward, maybe
there should be some deals made before you start.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh for sure. I mean I am petitioning.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I am actively Maybe I just got a what was
the thing when you walk around people and make people
a petition?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, I want there to be a physical fight on
drag Race. I am waiting. I want it to be
the drag Race Bad Girls Club.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I want someone to hit take a steaming machine and
hit someone and is becoming physical fan.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I mean, I would love it so amazing.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean, we do just need sort of like like
RuPaul's deathmatch, Like we do need like a sort of
like boxing night or something. It would be so fun.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, it would be amazing if there was Like
they were in the work room, everyone's having like a fight,
like a verbal fight. People are reading one another and
then suddenly one of them is like and then just
could you imagine it?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I mean they, I mean, they keep on losing the
Emmy y'all give the girls alcohol during the day and
and get get us a physical fight on drag Race,
and we, as the as loyal fans of the show,
will pressure our voting people on the Academy to give
drag Race another Emmy game.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I want to see Hormona Lisa literally slapping someone across
the face and then tripping them so they fall on
their back.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
God, I want it so bad.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Like, honestly, the last season, when Lexi came back from
outside and she realized her garment had been great painting, Yeah, yeah,
I thought like because I was in the pitstock watching
it and the the producers were like, this episode get
gets really wild. I'm like, how wild. They're like, girl,
really wild. I was like, we're gonna see a fight.
And I was like, it's gonna be a fight. They're like,
girls just watched. So when I saw her come back
in the steam that was coming out of her ears,

(05:12):
I was.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Like, Oh, she's gonna hit her.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Of course it didn't happen, but like I was praying, praying, well.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
You do raise an interesting point with the alcohol, because
something people forget about, like the Real Housewives, is that
they're all black drunk. Hello, and everything that's happening and
is a testament to how great of a show drag races.
They're all sober, so everything you're seeing, they're not even
they haven't even had like one Martine. Yeah, you're right,
you're right.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
When it does get close, it is because they're in
untucked where you get drinks. But what you don't know
is that they limit your your your drinking and how
many you get too. Oh, that's started exactly. And I'm
a tank girl. It takes me at least at least
six of BLOCKA sodas to feel something.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Okay, I mean they're on an empty stomach.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I have to hope this is true because you aren't
on an empty stomach. But still it's still and I
feel like they to woter it down. Although RuPaul had
that he has those House of Love cocktails, the Tangerine
Margarita to roof Als, House of Love Tandy Margareels will
get you right.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Really, yeah, they they did.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Something with the with the with the measurements and the
algorithm on that drink.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I really got it. Got to get you sucked up.
It's great. Well, that's amazing to know y'all.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Want to podcast beef.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I mean, please be for sippling rivalry, so who can
stop fighting each other?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know, Oh my god, I would love to beef
with you. Yeah, I mean, but you would win. Sorry,
but it's like we need class in our in our class,
because I do feel like we can't really be going
up against like drag races and like the top ones.
Like it's like, I'll beef with Harmona, although I just

(06:46):
want to take ingrats to her. I think she either
got engaged both both yeah okay, literally who's doing it right?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And like her like cute little fiance.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
The reason they keep mentioning her is because I love her,
Like it's not of course, I know a little point
and every time I want to say I love her
and I want to be in a beef with her,
like I think she and I are like.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, it's like when you have a crush on someone,
so you're like yeah, yeah, and I just love I
love how like domestic and normal she is. I know,
she was just like really random.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
She's just like home baking cookie, yes, you know with
her fiance, like it's very tad wife vibes. Yeah, Hormona
Lisa is the narri Smith of drag Race.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, literally, she's running the PTA like like.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
The arm one hundred. Yeah. Yeah, I like her a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
So, but I think we can maybe be in a
feud with someone even like more serious like the Daily
Terry Gross, Terry Gross. I would love Reclined. I would
love to be in a feud with that Recline. I
don't know, as Recline is like a political commentator, Okay,
he recently came under fire because he's like.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
The Hormona Lisa of The New York Times.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes, yeah, but way more, way more successful. Though, It's like,
what if it's like, get this, what if Hormona one? Oh?
Can you imagine a world like that? And again I
say this as a fan, but imagine if Hormona one
and it's like then we would have to all sort
of be like, okay, so what is my opinion about this?
What's where do I stand on the fact that Hormona

(08:16):
one RuPaul's drag Race?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Do I still support Dragon? Like? Do I subscribe?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
And again, as one of Hormona's biggest fans, it's like
I like hercash as an underdog. Would I like Rishi Won?
I don't know, I know, Wow.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm trying to think of the the the drag Race
cinematic universe where Hormona Lisa Lens drag rads.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
What would the world be.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, I'll tell you one thing, Kamala would have won.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
But what I was going to say, which I actually
think still works, there would be civil war.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Kamala as president, there's civil war and Kamalah like keeps
not doing good enough speeches to civil war.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
The goofy Sure, Oh my god, So I just used
the from this building. Yeah, and baby, the budget is
up because the public restrooms have it, but days on it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I saw that too. They have the days on, they
have little tishy but days maybe they're a sponsors out here.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Wow, on the public bathroom, everybody's sitting the ass on.
That is nice.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
See when you said the budget up, I was like,
we went to different bathrooms because when I went in
there probably a Mortal Kombat level. There's like the light
is flickering, like he's like random day, which actually makes the.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bed day scene even more because you're like, well I
don't want that one exactly shooting.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, I was like, oh my god, A but day
in the public restroom is this Japan.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I literally, it's about time. Yeah, it's about time. Honestly,
I think that would be harmonious first acts as.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
The days everywhere, days everywhere. Maybe that would solve the
civil war.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
They should let drag race winners make one law. I agree,
just one law.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
But is it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Only for the queer community or is for everyone? For everyone? Everyone? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
What would your law be? Law?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Mine have been?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
I think mine would have been to uh to oh,
universal regulations on who can ask for tips after service?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh, because I am.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
The other day I went to my dry cleaner and
I picked up a pair of pants and he swiveled
that damn iPad at me and said tip. I said, baby,
tip for what?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Tip for what?

Speaker 4 (10:26):
And then, because I felt person, I'm like, oh my god,
my god, look at you being like some some fucking
one percent raggedy bitch. I like, I was like, I
tipped in five dollars. I did the five dollars on
a ten dollars thing. I was like, I just made
fifteen dollars freeze pants. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I have a I mean, yes, that's an amazing law
and genius. I went to I have to say, I
went to a dry cleaner like slash tailor. Recently for something,
I got leather chaps off of I got them off
of eBay. They're like vintage leather chaps. They're way too
long though, and I was like, but I was like okay,
so I had to get them tailored. I was like

(11:02):
where could I possibly go? So then I had to
go to like this like random man and be like
he's like, oh, what are those like their leather chaps,
And he's like, do you want to put them on?
I'll And he's like what are you going to use
them for? And I was like, I don't know. Like
I was like the way I was pretending what they.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Use them for is a crazy wear them.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah. But I was also like I had to like
literally pretend I don't know what they are. Like I
was like, I don't know, they're weird pants I found.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
She's like, I'm a cowboy and I am.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Going to ride in my goat, like just tell him something.
It was so shit, Why are you accosting me with
all these questions about like about my articles.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm here to pay you exactly, and possibly I am
I under a tip. I'm my tip. I wanted to
look like you're not getting a tip on the iPad anymore.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I wanted an anonymous experience.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
This is like how you know when they do ads
for like him, is they're like, not, don't have that
awkward conversation with your doctor?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, you know every time I see it when I'm
on the subway here specially, I see that as I'm like,
should I get him?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
So?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Are they a daily multi vitamin? I think there's a
different products. Oh okay, I think it's anything. Imagine like
a really insecure straight man, anything they might want. So
there's there's hair loss, there's a rectyle dysfunction. There's like
general vitamin general vitamins, which again, for a man to
consume them, they have to be marketed as four men
otherwise He's like, well what am I right?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Oh, it's kind of like sucking dude wipes? Yes, yeah,
I'm like you're paying roughly two two dollars fifty cents
more yeah for baby wipes.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah. Where it's like how a deodorant the scent is
stainless steel that you know what I mean? It's like,
why don't you want to smell like lavender? Hello? That's
an example of a positive scent, like a scent that
people like.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
There's also the thing that they I saw the other
day at at the CVS there.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Have you ever seen the female pens?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Female? I have seen female earplug Oh my god, which
is my favorite. It's just literally like four women and
they're pink.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
What made the pen female?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
They were pink.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
They were pink, the female pens and they were I
clocked this s uff It was a dollar and twenty
cents more for the female big pen as well, just
a regular big pen.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I think one of my great shames is that, like
when I go into a thrift store, I'm always like,
just which ways the men's like, I like, I'm like,
I'm not looking at the women's No, I always am like,
and this is for men, right. It's like I don't
know why. It always is like my big thing that
I'm like, just to be clear, yeah yeah, And I'm

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like doing if I found like a women's shirt that
I liked, I would wear it. But it does but
I for some reason, I'm like, I'm not trying to. Oh,
it's like it's weird. It's for everything.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I will walk into an anthropology or something and I
would and my big black ass I walked anthropology, and
I'd be right at the dresses.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'd be like, and everyone's like, for who, I'm like,
for me, bitch.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
A prairie dress.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
A girl literally try the most ridiculous things.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I would never work because I'm not even an anthropology
kind of girl, but just the funk with the system.
I'd walk in there with my big wide back and
I shoved that dress over these big ass shoulders, and
I will step on in the mirror like and just
pose and luxuriating in the moment.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
You're doing something that I've always wish I could pull off,
which is blazer with rolled up sleeves. You know, looks
really good you and I've I always have thought it's
so chic. But I actually tried doing the other day
and I didn't. It didn't work for me. You can
pull that off, thank you.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I think that the kind of blazer.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Is, yeah, know that a little oversize exactly. Yeah, yeah,
because it can also read weirdly feminine. Not that that's
a bad thing, but it can. It can read feminine
in the sense that you're like, oh, I'm like, I'm
em rata and I'm so skinny sleeves this blazer and
I love them Rana, Yeah, but I just don't want
to choose the Hormona Lisa of my.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Oh my god, I see it more on the modeling thing.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Like I feel like when it's flashing week, I open
my social media and like I see, I find out.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
All these and say that what's going on there?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I know wherees like I like, Okay, I did fashion
Week two years ago. I got invited to Fast Week
in New York. When I had I'm disppartedly I'm not
an advised or anything. It was the worst experience of
my life. Like the shows are just it's so busy,
it's so many people. And when I saw a social
media clip of Beyonce going to see her nephew Walker

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fashion show and she was pushed up in the thing
and people will push it, I was like, oh, there's
literally no hope for me. And that's how it was.
Everyone is pushing you. You're sitting like this, You're uncomfortable.
I'm gonna courseck and I win a drag another mistake
and it was awful. I said, oh my god, I
never want to do this again.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think it's humbling for everyone. It's like designed to
bring you down, even if you are beyond.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Literally yeah, it was No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I would.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean I would love to do like the European one,
like go to like Milan Milan and go to like
the Scaparelli Show and like that sounds like that.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Here I was looking at Jay Crew, I'm like, I
don't care about don't have Jake, but yeah, well no
offense if you want to have me again.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
No, this is so much for inviting.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I would actually prefer gift card. We don't need to
go to a way.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Keep doing this thing where we were like we mentioned.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
J Crew like three episodes Wheel, and.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
We were like going off about like, well we don't
love Jake Crew, and it's like, actually we do. Like
Jay Crew, is this message to you We're in, We're
in whatever it is we're in.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, I always no, no, no. I'm thinking of
Fashion Week because it is one of those things that
I both you know, when you both want to be
invited to the party but also resent it. It's like
I like being on the sidelines, being like you dumbasses,
and I'm also like I want to be there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Also, we're at a time where you like see like,
you know, obviously shit is crazy and you're like, oh
my god, and you know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Like, fuck the system, yeah, capitalism, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
But I'm like, but I'm we're participating, and I would
totally go to the question show.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know. Yeah, it'd be so nice to have gone
like four years in a row and then be like
this year, I can't do it totally. So that's the fantasy.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's literally it's like how I feel about the Just
for Lass Festival, Like, well, I've been there, I've done that,
and you know, you like all the young people are going.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I mean, I see how it's good to go to,
but it's just not really for.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Me right now.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I've been a few those. They're fun.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, they're fun.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
They're fun.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's a great just for us. It's a great way.
It's a great way to chicken about budgets because it's
like some years there's an open bar at the party.
Some years you have to literally go and find a
find like a manager agent so that they can buy
you a drink on the account.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
That was bleak. That was we went the year. The
most recent time was like the the strikes were happening,
so I think there was like something up with like
the sponsors where they were like it would be unethical
to sponsor this or some there was something so literally
like the one sponsor was like a lighting company, like
it was like yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Whereas the first time I went, which was probably like
twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, I walk in Jerry Seinfeld, like
you know, every famous comedian like I was in. I
was like, wow, I've really made it. I'm in a
room with Jerry Seinfeld.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, and they just.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Said, ah, no, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
It was like on the tip of my tongue I
was gonna say, and I forgot this is this happens
to me?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
And I'm like, is it?

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Because I'm like, am I losing I'm losing my mind?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I feel the same way. Yeah, it's and I sort
of am like it's getting worse. It will only get
worse obviously unless we get hymns for your brain.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
So that I literally picked up my phone like I'm like,
I'm going to do the same point of my phone.
I had this pause and be like, okay, you picked
up your phone because you were going to yeah, and
which is so bad. Like I'm like, is it aging
or is it the things that we're using that are
making me let making me like inept of doing these things.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know. You can't square that circle.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's a lot. Sometimes I feel like we talk too
much and that like makes it imposs I do think
that's true. I find that I'm running. I like forget
who I've told what because I'm just like always kind
of free associating. Yeah, And like last night, I hang
out with a friend and like I was talking about
someone to her and then like three hours later, I
started talking to about that same person to her again.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
She's like, no, I know, And I was like, oh
my no, oh my god, like my mom, Like God,
bless her. She will tell me the same Then I'm like, oh,
maybe it's a genetic thing. She will tell me the
same story. Like I'll call her three times throughout the week,
and every time and by the third time, I'm like, yeah,
I know, and I finished the story. She's like, oh,
we don't make me feel bad. I'm like, well, don't

(19:37):
tell me the same story or three times. Oh I
don't want to feel bad, bitch. Do you want tell me
the same shit?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I know.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
See this is interesting. There's I was when we were
talking about the laws before, I was thinking one law
should be like someone you should be there's like you
have to tell someone when something they can change is off,
like if there's like something on their face or something
in their teeth, yes, like or like their callers messed up,
like you should have legally you should have to tell them.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So it's like no hard feeling, no hard feelings.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
But then like I'm like, we actually don't have the
language to like your mom telling the same story to
be like, hey, this is wrong, Like like hey, like
we don't have the correct language to be like I'm
correcting you lovingly. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, that's why it should be. And I'm against MAS
surveillance for the record, for the record, but if there
was a way to make it a technology where it's
like it beeps if you have food on your teeth,
it beeps, if your lips are super chapped, it beeps.
If you know it's like your shirt doesn't.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Literally we need facial recognition for stuff in your teeth.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, and it can be past or protected, like I
don't want the government to have access to like whether
I have.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean but yeah, I mean, I have been in
that situations so many times. I want to say something,
but this is something about it. It's just like it's
just so like one time I was I was dating
this guy is like a second day We're on and
we were at this restaurant in health kitchen, hanging out
and had dinner. Leaving dinner and walking down Ninth Avenue

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and talking to him. I could see, like you know
when you're talking to someone and like just like the
spit is starting to gather in.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
The corner of the Yeah, fuck, I hate that.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
And I'm just talking to me and like literally I'm
not even looking in his eyes. I'm literally looking at it,
and I'm like and then I about to get on
the train and he like goes to kiss me. I
would did not want to kiss him because I was
it was like so I was listing on the back
of my neck was literally crawling over my head.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I did it anyway, and it was I literally did.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I pretended to go down on the subway when he
walked away, went back up, went into the Dwayne read
but it's a moth walk and.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I felt so grossed up.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
I want I adjusted, so I was I made myself
uncomfortably almost sick because I couldn't bring myself to say, hey,
you got to now on the corner of room.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, with that mouth, I did not feel it.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
You don't feel that.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I feel like something. Maybe I mean were you was
Was he drinking because sometimes I feel like when I'm
drinking and that's when that really happens.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I think we definitely had dinner as a drink.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
But I was drinking and I have it or although
when you see it on someone that you start checking yourself.
So I'm talking, I'm like yeah, because you know, you know,
I'm trying to like signal like hey, you know, but no,
nothing works.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm constantly eating bagels and I'm like, with a mustache,
it's one of the most dangerous things you can do.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Well. One of the reasons I don't have a mustache, well,
I guess I but like I in the beginning of
having a beard, I was my biggest fear was that
food would be stuck in a cot. Oh and it's
stuck in there and whenever it gets longer, it always happens.
And talk about something no one tells you, so you're
telling me I have a giant crumb right here, and
no one all day has told me.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
And you need to be one of those people that's
like married to your napkin and you're like, bite nap
bite napping. You're like, that's such a gross look.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well, you know, bring back the bring the handkerchief. Men
of a certain age always carried a handkerchief, and it
was for things like that. It was, you know, maybe
wipe the corner of the mouth, we get the crumb
up the beard, and they did it and it was,
you know what, it was, bring the handkerchief. I think
our generation has for gotten handkerchief. We need to bring
it back.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Our generation has We're gotten a lot. But let's focus
on the handkerchief. Let's trap at a time. Should we
do our first segment? Yes, let's okay.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
So our first segment is called straight Shooters, And in
this segment, we're going to ask you a series of
rapid fire questions es basically this thing or this other thing,
and you just have to pick one. And the only
rule is you can't ask any follow up questions or
we'll scream at you. Okay, we'll create a new law.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, it's just about that okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Ohnee, one kiss is all it takes, or son, this
is a huge mistake.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
One kiss is all it takes.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Lauren Bobert or frozen yogurt.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Frozen yogurt, dirty fingernails, or wordy fairy tales.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Oh, wordy fairy tales, hung like a horse, or black
lung sounds kind of grossy black lung.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I like this a smoker, okay, the radical Left, or
sabbatical out.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
West, sabbatical out West for sure? No wait, radical. I
was like, yeah, I'm left radical Left.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh yes, please having a need for speed or driving
to some lou reed.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Need for speed as you get tickets all the time
in the city for driving fast.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, chef's kiss or yes piss.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh my god, we got a gig Shavy on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
With yes piss not no.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
One.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
I told this guy on Jack's and I came on
to this. This was a year before the guy forced
me to fix him. Anyway, at this guy's home and
he and we're in the living room having a good time,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
He like, let's go to bed.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I'm like, sure, we go to the bedroom. Baby that
there were tarps down and the I was like, what
was going on? And he was someone who enjoyed being
urinated on.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Of course, I mean it's more common than you think.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
I know, but I mean I think I was.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I was saying it back.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
By the preparedness, I was like, Wow, you have thought
this through and you engage this often. You don't know
ruin your things, so you have prepared us for the situation.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
You know, there's something okay, okay, you know the preparedness
paradox where like, okay, so it's this thing where like
like in COVID, it was like, we it needs prepare
and wear masks so that this doesn't spread. But then
because it doesn't spread, people are like, we don't need
to wear masks. It didn't spread, and so you're in
this like sloop where you like, if you prepare, it
looks like you over prepared because it worked. There's also

(25:41):
something in like sex world, where there's a preparedness paradox
where you like, if you prepare too much for the thing,
it then becomes unsexy and then the thing won't happen.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yes, yes, I agree.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, no, and it's tough. Well actually wait final question,
oh sorry, and then the podcast is over I want
to talk more about this. Papa, don't preach, or Mama,
let's go to the beach. Be wow.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, wow, you're done, right, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Okay. We rank our no, no, you're not at all. We
rank our guest performance on a scale of zero to
one thousand doves. It's named after the Lady Gaga song
one thousand.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Dovesma from Chromatica.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
But I would see you're losing at a point there.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I mean, that was an amazing thing.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I thought that was an amazing performance. I would definitely
say over eight hundred, obviously taking points away for not
knowing what's from Romatica, but I.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Mean I'm gonna go with clean nine oh one.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Okay, one's amazing. Yeah, okay. So in terms of preparedness,
I think oftentimes being like the tarps are un sexy
can come across as king shaming. But I'm not talking
about the kink. Yeah, I'm talking about the tarps. Yeah,
the tarps. And I think so much of like shaming

(26:57):
things like polyamory or like kink is about the like
nerdiness behind the preparation and the preparation and the and
like the taking the mystery out and it's difficult to
separate those two because I have no problems with any
kink whatsoever. But if someone sends me a spreadsheet, I'm
not heart.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
It's not it's not. Yeah, it takes me out of
the world.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I even find in I'll say it anal sex when
you like, put down a towel, so you're using a
silicon loube that stains, but you put down a towel,
I'm not doing that, and you're like, okay, well now
it looks on sexy. Now it looks like you're disgusting.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm not putting down anything.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
But then your your sheets like you get stained even
just from the loup wash them.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
And I got these bogo at Marshall's. I do not
want to stain these sheets.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I like this. I like this sheet.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, I agree. Well there's this, there's this Instagram. Obviously
the targeted ads popped up the other day. Have you
seen guy, seen this news? This sex blanket that you Yeah,
I've gotten this ad?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm gonna say, how is how I have used it?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
But I've got that, I've got that.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I don't want the girls stuff and what is it?
So it's a blank it? What makes it First of all.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've never had sex.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Let's start there.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Whatever it's made out of the five was whatever, it's like, Uh,
it's washable like silicon. Lula doesn't say in it like
you can get things on it, and it is it is,
it will always come off. It's like it's like a
But again, I don't know how nice it will look
as part of your everyday did course you don't have the.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Bear, just beer.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And I want to know what the texture is like
exactly what is what is the texture? Because I'm not
buying it. I'm not believing that this texture is a
good text.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Exactly. One time someone I know went home with someone
and their sheets were Jalo brand, and so they said
Jaylo Jayla Jayla Jaya ja Jaya Jayla Jaya Jayalo Jaylo.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Not like flor and like, yes, that is the craziest
thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh my god. Okay, well was this j Loo pre
orange drink if you know, you know we're talking about
her daily order her.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, this was probably let's say twenty sixteen, okay, which
it was a trump thing.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
We like jayal on twenty sixteen it was, but still, you.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Know, Jayla home wears it's a it's very like I
just came out as a gay guy and so I
have to I guess, get Jaylo shit.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's Jealo shit.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Also, like what I was also dating's a guy who
had recently came out, and he had like everything was
rainbow and again obviously big fan of the Rainbow, the Rainbow. Yeah,
but when I tell you, like, it was just very
like new gay, I just need to just really just yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
And I was like, girl, we get it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, there was a I shouldn't say this because maybe
it can get back sometimes, Like I went to the
home of a of a gay guy that had recently
come out, and he had all three of Andy Cohen's
books displayed as though no coffee table books. Like it
was like, and here they are.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
No, no, well that's kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah yeah, Like but he wasn't because it was funny.
He was like he was it was like that this
clearly he had read them, like they were probably influential,
you know, he had read them after coming out. Whatever,
it's just is a funny. I'm trying to think what
that was for me when I was like first coming out.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I was gonna say, there's almost something respectable about that,
because like I did the opposite. When I first came out,
it was more like yeah, but I'm still me and
it was like no, you're not.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Like like you're.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
A gay guy, like let you're gonna lean in, and
I just like was a slow burn, like I was like, well,
I still love like indie rock, and it was like
grow up like you love Madonna.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I think for me, I came out a choir college
so that's pretty gay wire college girl.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I was, I mean, how gay can you well?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
But also Christian no no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
It was just just.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
So I didn't need to do much like I was like,
I am living it every day twenty first sevens.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think my way around what you're saying is I
was like, okay, so my thing is John Waters because
that's both gay and like alternative. Like I be like, oh, look,
I have a poster of divine holding the gun. That's cool,
Yeah it's not. It's not Christina Aguilera, which is.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Like faggy something on Grinder that.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yes, Christina Aguilera is doing the alert sound now come
on ov.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I was like, that is why, and she's I think
specifically advertising her tour or her shows or something else Grinder.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I mean there's something with the splintering of our media ecosystems,
which we are guilty of.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Of course, an all gay people are.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Of course they are driving the wedges. But there's something
where I'm like, I'm sad for these like legacy acts
where I'm like, Christina is a huge star, Like why
is she the sound on Grinder? Like I'm like, why
does Mariah Carey have to like go on a streamer?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like why? Like I feel bad for these.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Girls that are like so respected that they have to
like participate in our fractured media ecosystem.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, I also think too.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
With someone like Mariah, Like, I think that her and
Christina are both two people who recognize a how much
the gays have contributed to their success and the longetuity
and the longevity of their careers.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
So I don't I like, honestly, I think it's.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Really camped that Christina is doing that because the last
Door did really well, so she's like, bitch, I'm gonna
do this one.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
So I I quite I quite like it.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
I okay that they're that they're that they're giving back
to us for all of the nine ninety nine we
spent on them, all the hours that we spent downloading
come on over online wire to over dial up internet.
Think you downloaded a song, then you listen to it,
and then thirty seconds in you hear this is Awl
music and it's like, you know, she's given back to
us for all we've done for her.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
No, that's true totally, And I also think the Grinder
specific part does sort of undo what my argument was
that is fun that it's so gay gay codd.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
We also forget how many new kinds of media people
had to adjust to, Like when MTV first came out,
it wasn't like it was a choice to be like
I am joining this kind of movie. I you know,
I'm making a music video that's gonna be an MTV
rather than being like a pure artist than just doing
it for the music. Like at every stage you sort

(33:18):
of had to decide how am I gonna do this
new media thing my way? And now like it is
true that honestly more people are on Grinder than are
watching some legacy like oh my god, legacy media that
you could be on, Like, sure you could put Christina
Aguilera on you know, CNN. Does anyone want to see it. No, well, true,

(33:40):
we should put it on. We should we should put
I mean that's true.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Like Lizzo has been doing these these uh these tiktoks
about like the industry and like how it's all functionedal
and I'm like, the way she's putting shit into perspective,
I'm like, I'm not. I haven't even even thought about that.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
We need to talk about Lizzo. So, first of all,
there's so much to talk about. Okay, So in terms
of what you're saying, I also have been finding it
really interesting that she's sort of like pivoted to critic
yea like to music critic, and she's very smart. But
we have this concept that I'll let Sam explain on
this podcast. It's called Lizzo's pass.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's called Lizo's pass, and it's when an artist is like,
has a lot of buzz, is very cool, it's like
coming up really fast, and they get to Lizo's pass
where they have to decide are you going to be
like cool, go Pitchfork or are you going to go Target?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
And you have to make a choice, and Lizo chose Target.
At the time she chose to people don't remember I mean,
I'm sure you do an id as fans, but people
don't remember. People that only know Lizzo now don't remember.
She used to be like alternative buzz. She was like Minneapolis.
She was very like cool on my phone. Yes, and
then she she was like, I could you know, I
could go the route of being like super alternative or

(34:51):
I could go there out of being super mainstream. And
she definitely chose mainstream. She was like, I'm going to
write empowerment anthems for moms for spin class, for spin Class.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, And so we were saying this came up because
I felt like, Chapel Roane is that Lizzo's past. Currently,
she hasn't decided if she's gonna go target her pitchfork
and it's very unclear and you.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Can see, you know, f K Twiggs went pitchfork. H
Charlie c X went Pitchfork. Do you find that that
happens with drag queens?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Does that happen with queens? I think like when you
talk to someone like Lady Bunny, who has a very uh,
she has a very staunch shake on, like you know,
drag us, Like she loves how subvert, how how sub
versa drag was and how it was this thing in

(35:44):
a nightclub and she misses that and she wanted to
be that, and she kind of, you know, wags a
finger and like shades the girls who have who have
gone on drag race and went quote unquote mainstream. And
as someone who came up in drag where I was
a New York City queen, I started drag because it.

(36:04):
I did not start dragging because it's like, oh, it's
gonna get me. I want to be on close drag race.
I started doing drag because I was figuring out my
gender and my identity and like what that all meant.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And drag informed so much about that, so much of that.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
And I did it because I just love the working
seven shows of a five nights a week in New York.
I loved working my eight hour work day, getting home
by nine pm, painting my face for three hours, going
to the rits at one o'clock, and staying out into o'clock.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I fucking love that shit, you know.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
And then so but now with drag race, I think
drag race is like the Pitchfork moment.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's like you get there and like you're to go.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That main stream is Little's drag races. Like, if you
go on drag Race, you're choosing target.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, but then some girls who girls don't they don't
they get there, it's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, they regret not regret that. They're like, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Doesn't really, it doesn't really happen for them in that way.
I think they're like out of the girls who get
on the show, there are and I think I think
everyone who gets on the show is trying to get
to the target blah blah blah blah blah. But I
think something goes doesn't have before and day, so you
did just end up going the other the other, not
that they wanted to, but that's just kind of what.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Was dealt to. Yeah, I'm curious about past I love that.
Yeah this is a change. Have we covered all we
wanted to do with that? Okay? One thing I've always
wondered about being on drag Race is like being gay famous?
Is that like insane for like dating purposes? Like is

(37:35):
that weird?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You know it? It was?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
It is weird.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
It is weird in terms of like when I I
tried to dating New York, but I feel like New
York people there are so many options. I was the
girl I would go on a date with a guy
and like it would last for the things and then
they would find the next best thing and move on,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
But I think when I went to LA, I like.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I intentionally wanted to date, and I took that very seriously.
And I think in LA everyone is kind of like
on the scene and everyone is like connected. If you
go on a date with someone, they have to tell
you that, oh yeah, I used to thing for this
artist and that got some and that got so annoying,
and then then they bring up the dror and then
they try to active they have no idea you on
drag race and then later and I'm like, so I

(38:18):
wasn't gonna say anything, but I know, I'm like, oh god,
and then they go to the whole thing you talk
about that and then you hook up with them, and
then they can get hard because then anyway, So it
is annoying that in that way. But I do think
that I'm always so happy that RuPaul gave me the
opportunity and the platform to do this, and now I
have shifted into you know, being able to support myself

(38:39):
in my art and my career and like really really
do that and really taking my family stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
So I do love all the benefits.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Of it, but dating and fucking where you are games
can be a little like oh god, yeah, I'm like, baby,
go go go get the trimax, go get go, get
take the via, let's get to work.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Let's get you a hymn's promo.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Please girl, please please please. But I will say I
just so this year I started doing gay cruises, and
that is like, you're you're literally Mickey Mouse on the dow.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I mean, you are Mickey Mouse on a Disney cruise.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
People have softfer pictures, but I think for the most
part of the gay especially at parties, they'll like chill at.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
A party, although sometimes maybe I am.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It's like they pulled out a phone and I'm like,
not tonight, let's look by the pool tomorrow, not tonight.
But for the most part they're chill on there. But
a gay cruise you are like, you're a gainless person
on a gay cruise, and if you're gonna participate that
you have to just you know, just it is what
it is, and you just move on.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, we need we need gay cruises with yonder pouches.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yonder it's where you put your phone.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah. In fact, I would say we need yonder pouches
pretty much in most public places actually one hundred percent restaurants.
Oh my god. And I'm like, I get the debate
about phones in schools. That's not my world. I don't
have children, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Nor am I one.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But I'm like, I what I know is what it's
like to be in my thirties as a gay guy.
There are phones everywhere, and it is making people dumber.
So let's just yonder pouches.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yonder pouches.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Do you have put phones away at a bed? Like
my boyfriend likes to put it in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I've made no effort, like to go when you go
to bed, Yeah, go to bed.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
He puts into bad wi mine.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I so yeah, my when I'm at home, like, I
at least put on the nightstand. When I'm alone, I
literally sleep with.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
It in my like it is touching crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
It's like I'm like sleeping like this, no like because
if I wake up for even one second, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Sam no damn. But I have to. I think of
my I think of me as the more phone addicted
and social media addicted one.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
But even I don't do that. It's like when I
because when I can't sleep, I know it's the thing.
The number one thing you're not supposed to do is
like start look at your phone when you can't sleep. Yeah,
but that is the first thing I do because I'm like, well,
I can't sleep time looking at my phone. Yeah, I
agree with that. Yeah, And it's like but sometimes it
does get my mind off of things and does help
me fall asleep, which is why I like, don't put
it further away, because I'm like, because I'm like, I

(41:08):
don't want to disturb myself by like getting up and
moving it, Like, oh my god, I just want to
fall sleep with it right there.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Well, I like to listen to a podcast, like there's
nothing to me that really puts me to bed the listen.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Not in a bad way, in a great way because
I'm obsessed with her.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, what are your most boring podcasts?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
No, but listening to.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Joy Bayhar Oh my god, I love Joy Bayhart so much.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
She is my one of my favorite people.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
I do not know. I'm obsessed with Joy Bayhart. No,
I loved it, so I just love listening to her.
She becaues So I'm a big View fan. Listen to
The View every day and they have this thing called
the Behind the Table, and every time it's her. She
does an episode a week on there, so I just like,
it's like my favorite the of the week.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I listened to Joy. Only a gay person could be
like Joy Bayharr's voice is soothing.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Yeah, yes, because guts you now, Johnald Trump, I don't know,
she's right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I once went to the View as an audience member.
This is a very long time ago. I've told Sam
it's for a million time, but it was the worst
day of my life because the guests were Newt Gingrich
and the SpongeBob musical.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Oh God, I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Going and I'm thinking, maybe they'll have Lucy Luan, you know,
maybe they'll have like Kelly Rowland on like and we're
told it's Newt.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Gingrid d I remember that episode. I think Meghan on
the show.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yes, she was still on that show.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
The Meghan McCain years of The View some of my
favorite television crazy chaos, like and and and now they
retail like they they say often now they're like, this
cast is great.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Everyone gets along so well. We just love it.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
It's been so long since the cast because I'm like
y'all are obviously talking about because Meghan McCain was insufferable
on that show and the way that Whoopy Joy Sonny
all them would have to pretend and have to like
and have to sun her live on air that episode
when when Whoopy go Whoop, he goes, girl, please stop talking,

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and like, have you seen the clip of Whoopy where
Meghan goes on this like long rant about being in
America and then WHOOPI goes.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Okay, no, that's to die for it?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Oh oh good good.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
The American experiment is the way to go. And if
we have two American women Megan Markle and Oprah Winfrey
who are single handedly finishing with George Washington on our
revolutionary counterparts, did I'm all for it?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I went to the view once as an audience member,
and like in the in between acts, they like sometimes
we'll talk to the audience, and I've told George this story,
but there was this a person who stood up and
was like, whoopee. I just want to say, like, your
one person show like meant so much to me and
my best friend who was dying of aides, Like he
watched it every single day and like you meant the
world to him and she goes, yeah, a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Like that is so unbothered.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
So bother I love, That's what.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
That's my one regret is that when I went when
I did All Stars four, that I didn't do a
WHOOPI in person, I do a great whoopee and I
do a good joy and I'm so mad to not
do it.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
You should have done Joy.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
The Joy had been great. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I mean who would have been great too? But I
think Joy like you as Joy.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Would be so I know, just move my little red wig,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Because because you know, whoopy what, she gets out there
talking to him and she's like, okay, yeah, like look
be great out.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Of a joy. So that's those are my two big regrets.
And drag Race, Oh my god, should we do our topic?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
We don't have to. What's we're chill over here?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Being so chill?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I love, yeah being chill.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
We like sometimes we get to the straight topic and
I'm like, I fucking hate that.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
This podcast the best, but you know what, you know,
after straight straight people deserve.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
The attention of that, y'all give them to Like, well,
it's like.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
You know, when we started this, like seven years or
six years ago or whatever, it felt fresh to be
ranalyzing straight culture. And I'm like, all right, what's next, shoes,
you can't do this? Okay, So name what is your
straight topic and what would you say straight about it? Oh?

Speaker 3 (45:15):
My short topic would be fishing.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
You know, I think a lot of us grew up
in this society when we were told that fishing was
a man's sport and they fish and you'll always say that.
Remember when that fucking thing was all over a seen
on TV the I use batteries and I gas I'm
the funky but the little fish, big mouth bast big
mouth bass. Remember that commercial so like and it was

(45:41):
like Avatar, like get it for your dad on Father's Day.
Like it's so like masculine, so much cheeseball fucking fishing,
And I'm like, no, everyone can fish, and fishing is
it has been co It has been adopted as straight
people buy their things, especially straight men, And I just
hate that.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, I am, do you have a relationship with fishing?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I was going to ask one do you have a
relationship with fishing?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
So I am from my family's from Saint Lucien, the Caribbean.
I grew up in Saintishere a really very long time,
which is famously an island. There's a lot of water,
a lot of beach where people fish all the time.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
And I've never.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Fished, but really, like, I mean, I knew my mom fished,
and and you know, I come from a strong line
of fierce, black prow black women who did amazing things,
and a lot of women my family fished, and so
I grew up seeing women fish all the time.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
So yeah, wow, do you have a relationship with fishing? Yeah,
because I lived in like rural areas, and like one
place we lived in we had like a pond and
we would like go fishing, and I liked I liked
the calm. Like if there's anything that is LGBTQ plus
about fishing, it's sort of like sitting and reflecting and

(46:53):
be like, I could say, really getting into your thoughts, okay,
but then you're you're shaken out of it by a
violent tug and you realize, I'm actually ruining a fish's
day and maybe even life.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I know, it's awful and they have to pull them in.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
It was so impossible for me not to think about
like being pulled in by the mouth, Like I was like, damn,
this is nasty as hell. And the thing is that
the I always felt so gay because I would be
so like I liked fishing. There was something reflective about it.
But then as soon as the fish was there on
the hook, I was like you and like my dad

(47:28):
would have to take it off and like do the
rest with it.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
So my family is Greek and I partly grew up
in Greece. And so.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Where were you Athens? A? Santorini and Miconos?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh so you did the Big Ones?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Was it so crowded?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
It was.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Santorino was really crowded, insane. Yeah, Miconos wasn't that bad.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
But Santarino is really cool.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
The Centerani is crazy. I haven't been in like, I
don't know, fifteen years. It's like I feel like you
can barely you get like a gorophobic or something.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, So my idea of a fisherman was like, you know,
one hundred and fifty year old Greek man skin just
leathered to hell, like, can cannot hear anything but is
just shouting, is like on a boat that has fully
fifteen holes on it, like it's very and then somehow
he comes out with a full octopus and then it's
like hung over the thing. And so I was. When

(48:22):
I'm in America, it's very different for me to think
of like the American idea of fishing, which is very
like Oakley glasses around your neck.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Well, there's two forms, I feel, because there's like country fishing,
which like you know, you're on a quiet pond, and
then there's like Florida ocean fishing, which is the Oakley
shades thing, right, and that's more like almost rich show off,
Like I have access to a boat, I am like
so strong?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Is it those fan boat things that we are talking about.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I'm thinking more about like the fancy boats that like
go out into the ocean. Oh okay, because that's so
Oakley's and like rich guys and like republican and republican,
very republican and like being like almost like I'm going
to try to catch the biggest fish I can and
if it's not big enough, I'm throwing it back. Whereas
like the fishing I was doing was more like we're
on a pond or lake and like you're catching like

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little guys and.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Are you eating them?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
And sometimes you're eating them?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Okay, okay, So talk to me about fishing in a pond.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, it's a big gross.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
It's a big gross like a pond.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Like a pond eat it. Yeah, we were eating it.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
That's like catfish, right, it can be yeah, bottom feeder stick.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah, like I could get down with the ocean, but
a pond.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Like dirt and stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh yeah, there's dirt. See.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That's the thing that.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Gets me too about like man made lakes and stuff
like that. I don't get it because it's not sand
down there, it's mud.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
No, I agree, I have. I really struggle with anything enclosed.
Having grown up around beaches, I just I needed to
be part of the rest of the earth.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, and that's what kind of And you know, I've
been the incident. I've been finding the incident about especially
people Chicago, because I do not get down with this
beach that they're home.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Oh no, but Lake Michigan is different.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
It's not a beach though it is a lake.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You don't see any land.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
It is a lake.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Michigan is a lake, not a beach.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Oh, but it is a beach. Have you been.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I have not been because I will, I would not
step my.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Foot you have.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
You haven't been because you're afraid of the truth, which
is that when you get there, you will say, oh,
my god, I'm at the beach.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Oh, yes, is it. Oh it's a gorgeous blow And
then I tell you something. I was a skeptic. I
never believed it. I was exactly like you. I visited
Sam's family, I went to the beach. I was like,
this is crazy. I really I feel like I'm.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
My family now lives on the Michigan side of the beach.
But it's like, it's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
But I really never thought I would feel this way,
Like I I find lakes to be dirty. I don't
I really need.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I know what you're talking about, because I know the
lakes you're thinking of, Yeah, this lake is gonna blow.
You are mine.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
They're like something and that they're always in some like
indie film with white people at a place and they're
like there's a rope they swing into and everyone just like,
those are the lakes I think about.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
That's that exists, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Of course, and those lakes exist and but this lake
is so different.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Okay, we need to go with that. I need to
go and I need to take myself to the lake.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
And been to Chicago several times, and it was always,
especially in the summer times, everyone's always someone's god damn beach.
I'm like, I'm not going to the beach for job, No,
but I would. Now I need to do some investigative journalism.
You have to do some investiative journalist and go experience
it myself. Okay, yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
For you to go to the beach.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I mean, don't get me wrong, the Chicago side is
a little dirty or but in the same way that
like a New York City beach is a little dirty
or the I'm like, well that's not The New York
City beaches are fucking horrible. They're discussed like you know,
I mean, I love them, but you're swimming it to it. Yeah, no, Shay,
Like we both come from places where beautiful.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Their tourists destinations, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
So you know, and I'm born and you know, I
I lived in Saint Lucia from that time as one
of ten that I moved to New York and I
lived here until I moved back to LA And so
I've been in New York for the past twenty twenty years,
and I'm like, you know, when I first went to
Reese Beach, and when I first went to the Fire
Island Beach, I'm like, are y'all fucking really gonna get
into this goddamn brown seawater?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
That's crazy. I, when I was in the Pines, decided
to go in just to like say I did. I
got injured. The wave smashed into me, I smashed onto
my hip and then I came out and I was bleeding.
Jesus Christ, I said, I'll see you in Santorini.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, I've always
been fine.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Also, you get into the New York beach, you are
going to grow gills.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You're literally you're gonna be shape of water. You're gonna
go shape of water.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
You literally you're gonna look like the thing at the
end of the substance. You canna look like Demi Moore.
Just oh no, no.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Well, what straighter hunting or fishing? I do think hunts
a little straighter.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
But I want to say, there's something wealthier about about like,
especially the thing. So obviously we can't talk about fishing
without talking about like the trope of like the tender
guy holding the fish on the boat.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yes, classic joke. All guys on Tinder are hold.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
On a boat joke as old as time, Yeah, as
old as twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
And that.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
But there is something where like, yes, tender guys also
sometimes you'll see them like with a deer or whatever.
But the fish does imply a certain level of wealth
because you are on a boat and that means you
have access to a boat. And I have to say,
I've talked about this on stage, maybe talking about this
on the podcast. One of my greatest shames is I
find that picture hot when I when I see the

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man holding the fish, I'm sort of like, now that's
a man. It does something to me because.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
An attracted to that kind of like button down tucked
into khaki shorts.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It's all Americana And I'm as I'm talking, remember when
I remember when I said that my dad would have
to take care of the fish because I was grossed out.
It's a father thing.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Oh, yes, it is that for you?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Is that for me?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I don't say that same thing. I don't say that
man holding a fish does anything for me?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
No, because for you it's mother, Yes, exactly, yeah girl
that I'm like, oh my gosh, she's hot.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I was at a bar in LA the other day
and there was this woman next to me. And you know,
I've only ever been with man. I've never been not
you know, because I'm a gay man and whatever. So
this woman but for me, and I know this is
a toxic thing for me.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I know, I know. But if you are above.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Six', TWO i don't care if you look like the
bottom of my, SHOE i will suck your.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
DICK i am just into tall. People i'm five eleven, really, yeah,
yeah what have this.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Had a little?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Heel yeah you, look, yeah you're getting to.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
If i've eleven and three.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Quarters and then So i'm at this bar and ordering
a drink and and THEN i feel this this, looming
this presence next to, me.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Like it's like it's like covering, me like just a
shroud over.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Me AND i look over and it is this woman
that WAS i think she was like six' nine or something, like,
that right and she was an ex volleyball player for
THE women's us volleyball team or whatever. It, was yeah
AND then i looked up, at HER and i legitimately.
ALMOST climax i was so turned on BY what. I

(55:28):
SAW and, i so if there are any tall ladies
out there to the market, is open you just want
to be you want to. BE engulfed i want to,
be engulfed you KNOW what. I mean and, this woman
she was just so tall and so statuesque and. So
beautiful she was the Hottest person i've ever seen in.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
My life that is.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So, interesting well, you know people are either horses, or
PONIES and i. THINK it, i, Think everard i've heard dogs.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Or cats i've never heard of horses.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Of, poney no this IS something i. Made UP but
i feel like there's two types OF and i think we're.
Both PONIES and i think you're. A pony you're.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Giving pony i'm a pony. For sure i'm.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
A pony you're. A cross it's like a horse and.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
A Pony look i'm.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
A mule oh, my god. A, Donkey, no no you're not. A, mule,
yeah mule. Ass bitch.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Like you're a cross between a donkey and.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
A HORSE but i think that if you're, a pony
you're either attracted to horses or scared, Of THEM and
I think i Would say i'm scared, of them but
there is Something where, I'M like i get NERVOUS when
i see a Horse because, i'm like WHAT am i
gonna do with?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
All That, m well it's like the fear, is attraction,
you know do? You, think Yeah sometimes i'm like, So
scared i'm, like, nice Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Well i'm also it's like when someone is so Large where, i'm,
like wow you're LIKE leg i could like hug, IT please,
I know georgia turning.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
My neck and choke stuffocate me with that.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
FUCKING thigh i. Love that do you like?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
A thigh i do like. A, THIGH yeah i do like.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
A thigh, i realized just like like really scary scene.
Of guys it's just HARSH because i am a lot,
of person so like YOU just i just need a,
little more a, little more a little.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Meat and a little hype one or.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
The other, you know you're a pony pony.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
For, sure, yeah, YEAH yeah i. USED to i used
to suck this Guy In key GARDENS when i used to,
live here and he was.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Built like a.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Fire hydrant he was a, short man but he was
like A fun he was a.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Solid. PERSON yeah i when this is such a funny
conversation when someone's like, a square like they're like short and,
Like wide i'm, like.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Nice yeah like you KNOW what, i mean how did
you get to be? A?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Square also did you get to?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Be that shame?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
For, sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
That's good any other thoughts? On, fishing okay there's like.
GOLD fishing i would like to. GO fishing, I know
i would like someone to, show me but maybe someone, You,
know billy like you did it all. YOUR life i,
did IT but i was always afraid, of it so.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
It's. COMPLICATED yeah i THINK like i like the idea
of FISHING because i like ways in which you can interact,
With water like are your water? Sign? Cancer, yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
YEAH impicies i.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
LOVE water i.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
LOVE water i think is? Cancer water?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
It is, but, like like fly fishing sounds so romantic
to be like standing in water and, being like do
you guys know what?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
That is you?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Know what you like hold up the fishing line and
you sort of like whip it around and it's supposed
to like mimic how like a fly moves on the
water so that a fish will like come up and.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
But you stand there for, a while and it's like
sort of an all day experience of like standing, in
water and it sounds great as like, a ACTIVITY but
i don't actually want to. CATCH fish i just want
to hang out in the water and have something to
do with.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
My. HANDS oh i do feel more connect to the
fish than. Land animals like just, Generally speaking i'm more
comfortable in an oceanic ENVIRONMENT than i am like in.
THE jungle i, WANT yeah, I say i. Forget, it,
like okay so you guys are, in community, Uh HUH
like i know there's still predators, and stuff like obviously
it's not all fun, and games but like there is

(59:19):
a more communal there is a more socialist community, down
there whereas it when you go to, the jungle they
are people are like ripping each other.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
To. Treds literally oh, my god that is. So true
maybe THAT'S why i feel more connected.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
To water that is. So.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
True, yeah yeah like a, Coral reef, i'm like you
guys have have it? Figured out core reef is just. A,
city yeah but it's like. A city it's Like a
scandinavian city where they like have Figured out, oh, yeah Yeah.
It's Copenhagen.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
It's copenhagen.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
It.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
WAS copenhagen i, Agree with oh, my god that's such
a that's such.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
A you love, that take, thank you. That's great i'm most,
you know it's Mostly finding. Nemo, based, yeah yeah there's.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
A lot i agree. With that but then that's the.
Same time Sometimes if i'm running through, A forest, i'm
like this is the? True me interesting, not ME.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
For i feel like a dip into. A forest i
can dip into, a hike but it's not Me Like
i'm i'm it's dragged. For Me if i'm on, a hike.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
It's, Drag.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Yeah i'm not A forest i'm not a. FOREST person.
I don't i don't like sleep on. THE ground i would.
SLEEP on i would sleep on. THE ocean i would
see on. THE beach i would sleep on. The BEACH
but i would not SLEEP on i would not sleep
in the woods on the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
FOREST like. I don't i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
WANT that i feel like there's so many things that
can happen to you there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
AND true i don't want to. Hear, WHO yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I don't i don't want to. Hear who.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You KNOW what i do you want to hear what
that sounds of the. One, ocean yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Oh, my, GOD yes i mean including like when WE
when i Did the survivor experience that came out and
we slept. On, that like so we're in this jungle and,
you know they sold it had not rained. So Long
in fijian, they're like, you know probably when they thought
it was going to, be clear like the. Week before,
they're like so it's looking like it's going to be
rainstorm and, we're, god oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
That's always the worst partonal survivor when there's, the worst.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Aren't right so we get out there and we're doing
the thing and like we we did it from ten
am on Like, a friday, let's say until ten Pm on.
Sunday nights we're there for forty that's more than forty.
Eight hours oh it was seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Two, hours, no wait, Tell, everyone okay what is? This?

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Called, oh, yes, okay yeah so this is Called The
Survivor influence it's Called The Survival.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Influencer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Episode okay they brought eight influencers Out to fiji and
they brought us there to film a forty eight hour
survive experience and like the, full. Thing y'all we had
to build our. Own shelter we had to build it.
On fire we had to make my own our. Own
food like it was. Literally that, AND well i, was,
like oh they're bringing, Influencers out they're GOING to, i
mean they're gonna, be crafty gonna be a crafty thing we,
can get, YOU know i can get some cheetos at

(01:01:46):
one o'clock MORE if.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I, need to. Nah thing it was a true.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Experience and it was LIKE AND i i, DON'T know
I guess i just pulled out some primal leadership EXPERIENCES
and i was like helping build. THE shelter i have
like a, Game PLAN like i was really like instrumental
in getting our. Shit, done okay so then we're on this,
beach THOUGH and i mean know our shelter wasn't Sounds
because i'm not a, fucking engineer and, of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Course build a. Goddamn shelter so it throws.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
To rain and it was legitimately from six pm in
the night until, six am no rain on us sleeping, in, rain, cold,
miserable awful and IN how i got when when it finally,
stopped raining because the sun didn't come out there until like,
SEVEN eight i like went over to. THE beach i
lean on, the sand and THAT'S when i felt most.
At HOME when i was on the sand by, the beach,

(01:02:33):
SLEEPING there i, was, like oh it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Feels GOOD so i think. The ocean i'm an, ocean
DWELLER and i ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
A question what is the what are the what's the
choreography of the cameraman? Being there so you're doing, All
that we're seeing, it, LIKE wow i can't believe they're
out in the wilderness but there's a camera.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Man, there yeah they're like they're but they're like these.
Camera people they are like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
They're on their hands and knees, just falling just just
running around, following you and like they're not allowed to
give you. The time they can't, take anything so you
lose all sense of like, What time like your references
on time is. So off you have no idea because
as soon as, the sunsets, you know, THE sunsets i
know it's gonna rise when it's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Morning, time wow but like you have.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
No idea so at one point we were like and
they told us after after, we wrapped we had the
sun and said and we were there and it felt
like we have been there for fucking. Twelve days at,
that point it was like a few hours in and we,
were like can someone just please tho as? A time
and we were just and they wouldn't tell us We're, getting, like,
OKAY guys i think right now it's probably like around.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Twin an we've been here all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Night.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Long deal it was like when y'all asked us, that
question it was only. Nine pm you Don't, even.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
God but it felt like it was. Never ending that was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
A nightmare. It's Tough so i've always Whenever in survivor
when they like go, to sleep they all kind of
like cuddle next to, each other like are you are you? Guys,
cuddling yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
We did we were on that hard ass bamboo, cut
cuddling cuddling being we started to get stinky after twenty,
Four hours. I'm sure so we're, just there wet, and
cold funky, as hell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Cuddling for heat because it was, So cold like You're,
in fiji.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
It's hot, no girl when the Sunsets in fiji it
is cold and it's breezy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
And rainy it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
WAS cold, i.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Mean don't you're wrong when it's when the Sunsets IN la,
i say this is The coldest i've ever been in my,
WHOLE life.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
I know and and then did you see Someone In
new york With a lensioga coat and?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Eighteen, scars, like bitch it is, NEGATIVE too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I know, BUT yeah la fins.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Your.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Blood THOUGH since i WENT, TO LA i i become a.
Weather Wimp oh i'm weak. As hell i'm so weak
now when it COMES and, i, MEAN yeah i gotta get. Back, here,
YEAH yeah i gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Get strong but.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
It's NOT but i will say, This though, CHICAGO people
i in my, Humble opinion chicago is, brutally cold and, people,
like well you Lived In.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
New york, i'm like, But yeah chicago's a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Little different co like, the way like the wind like
comes into your bones when it's fucking Cold, in chicago
it feels like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
It is it's like there's. No, escape Yeah like i'm gonna.
Die here yeah that's what it. Feels.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Like yeah, But yeah so do you think you could
ever do THE full servi? Ever run?

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
YOU know I think, i, COULD really I think. I
could i, think that, YOU know I think i. HAVE
this I think i have the what it takes to
get through a whole, run SURVIRON and I think i
would win because maybe my social Game, Was oh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
I'M sure i. Was sure it was.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
So good it arm you just gotta say some, nasty shit,
some money just. Laugh afterwards and That's how i'd, be
like oh, my god she's just, want toy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
You, know well do you have any final thoughts? On
fishing can we all take a fishing?

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Trip? Together, yes yeah let's do a Fish On.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Fire island though not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
That one, my god can. You imagine i've never heard of.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
That happening, you know, THE gays i haven't have, a
sport have a team, everything else a, gay dollgeball, gay volleyball,
gay football do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Gay fishing it's harder to erotic size fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Because all those. Other sports it's like. Half, fetish yeah
and they would also get distracted and have sex on.
The boat it would just, be, like okay so the boat,
is sinking we haven't caught.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Any fish if they, were like we're doing like boat,
Sex tours i'd, be, like no that, sounds nice that does.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
So nice, actually cruise that's. Gay, fishing no we're all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Gonna go on a big boat and we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Go fro, MY god i.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
CAN'T wait i. Can't, wait well the thing was also
the like getting the chum and is that the the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Worms and the there's something dirty. About it it's. All,
dirty yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
All dirty and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
When you call, the, fish well you didn't. Fuck it
but like y'all have to like clean it and scale it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
DO yourself i was always scared. OF it i couldn't,
do it get the guts out. AND stuff i couldn't.
Do it it's. Too gross AND honestly i didn't even
like eating IT because i, WAS like i know where that,
comes from. The, pond yeah, The pond that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
DAMN pond i just had the earnest thought, To, MYSELF
god i wish.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
MERMAIDS no i think that literally Every time i'm, In water,
i'm like it's just not fair that they.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
DON'T exist, i know it would be amazing if one
of them just. Popped up, you know. IT'S regular.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I heard the mermaids like as a myth come from
like sailors being like really delirious and like also corny
and like seeing a seal.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Yea yeah BUT also i mean we also Romanticize, mermaid,
like y'all if there, were mermaids they would be evil. Awful,
looking yeah they're they're getting no they're down there with,
no sunlight they will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Look awful they will be in. Their, hair yeah like
it was, not yea the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Hair would be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Pretty, great, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Just like seaweed stuck on her scale.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Exactly like when you see like those, like seals like barnacles,
on them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Literally barnacles yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Well imagine they had fish eyes like that's what's on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
SIDE yeah i DON'T think i wanted To be have
you Seen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
The Lure l U. R e it's this like horror
mermaid musical and they're the mermaids are, like evil like
they have like plenty teeth and they're like, it's, sorry good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
That's, Good, OKAY yeah i Go Seeing aileen beer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Oh. The, selene yeah is there no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Feel like if we're doing Movie Bro, oh NO but
i think we thought would be good or are?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
You kidding it was supposed. To be really it's Like,
CAMP no I mean i, mean, yes yes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
But they it only became camp because they asked This
the celine's estate for the rights and they, were.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Like, hell no you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Do that that's why they. Named it ALEEN di i did.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
It anyway and the same woman who place to lead the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Whole movie so the same woman playing her at fifty
three plays her when she's twelve. Years old with the
opening scene is her at The With columbia records in,
The thing she's just sitting in the caravans her this
old bitch like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
It's crazy that is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
So, funny yeah it's. So, GOOD well i gotta check.
It out should we do our? FINAL segment i Guess
so i'm having so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
MUCH fun i know what. A blast but, you know time,
is money Time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Is, monette okay she's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Always working oh, my god she's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Always, working okay. So money our final segment is called.
Shout outs in the segment, we pay we'll watch the
grand straight tradition of the radio, shout out shouting out, to, anything, people,
places things ideas that we are. Enjoying currently we will
go first and make them up on, the spot and
we have not thought of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Even, slightly, okay okay one came, to ME so i
can please. Go, first okay, all right, what's. UP cinephiles
i want to give a shout out to penis is
being used as a gag early on in, A Film
so i'm thinking of Like Forgetting sarah marshall where famously
you see. HIS penis i recently watched a Movie called
Splitsville With. Dakota johnson have you? Seen, it no it's

(01:09:39):
like two straight couples and they try to be open and.
Chaos ensuits let's just, say, That okay but the first
first scene you get a real, penis GAG and i,
was like, you know we don't do. This anymore we
gotta use male bodies for. COMEDIC effect i thought it.
REALLY worked i thought it really set the tone of,
the MOVIE and i would like to see more, of
it potentially with Someone Like. Colin ferrell AND so i

(01:10:01):
would really love to see more of that. On SCREEN
and i do want to say not TO be i
know this is a cliche at, this point but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Enough, prosthetics yeah, enough, prosthetics please what the real penis is?
Out there?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Come on this is actually THE law. I, want, YEAH
no i. WOULD agree i.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Would agree, enough prosthetics.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
PROSTHETIC penises i honestly shout out to Our friend joel
out using a prosthetic when he had his COCKOUT on
TV on tv, an, industry right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Right yes the show's. Go, Industry Yeah, Joe booster, joe
yeah wait he is he had. A cockout he's like
a steam, Room saying i'm gonna look.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It, Up, joel.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Damn this is, so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
You know this is this is where it. Gets excited
six episode out, of six we're out of things to.
Shout out That's why i'm shouting. OUT penises i.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Have one you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Go first that would, be wrong that would be wrong as,
a host that would just. Be inappropriate what's up preak
slusions and perverts around. THE globe i want to give
a huge shout out to the very plain LOAFERS that i.
Am wearing george called me into my very plain loafers
TODAY and, i said. THANK you i was looking for
plain LOAFERS and i found them five ish. Years ago

(01:11:17):
it's that thing WHERE when i, GOT them i, WAS
like i know they're, not right and they're like almost
so deeply plain and untrendy in, any way shape, or
form but they've aged into something so classic where, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Like, oh damn where did you even?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Get those they're like they're like little boy loafers in
a way that like people are now noticing them because
they seem like they come from a different. TIME period
i think it's nice when you buy something and you're
not sure what it, will be but you hold on
to it for long enough that eventually it. Makes sense
you have to trust. Your instincts time heals. All wounds get,

(01:11:50):
loafers now they will make. Sense Later. Xoxo, SAM wow i,
WOULD say i love. Your loafer it's. So cute. Thank,
you yeah, they're great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Appreciate it and you? Bought them you didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
BUY them i bought them New Feers agian tom the aged.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Really, well, yeah look five year old.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
CHOOSE feerus.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I want to give a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Shout, out hey all you green thumb bitches and listening.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
OUT there i want to shout out to all of you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
PLANT owners i have become a, plant parent and YOU
know i don't see this. FROM me i DIDN'T think
i had the constitution to raise plants.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
In the WAY that i, have Been but i've been
doing a. Decent.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Job now half of them died two weeks ago because
the irrigation, was off but THAT'S because i didn't. Pay
attention but to all of you out there with your
plants supporting them and they're growing so lovely and greeny,
and leafy shout out to your plant owners.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Out, there, wow wow anything you want, to promote we
haven't even given you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
The floor oh, my god come and see me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
Tell jokes i'm doing stand up around, this fall going
to Places, Like Buffalo, new york, oh Wow and Philadelphia
and Phoenix, And calgary Canada, And. Spokane washington so so
go to the nex change slash a lot now to
change dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Slash live there it Is and i'm come to see me.
This fall what a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Huge well this has been a. Real delight thank you
so much. For doing we're such.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Big fans we love you. So much you have good old,
fashioned charisma which is in fact in danger.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
These DAYS and i want to say whenever you came,
after midnight you were such a delight to, work with, so.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Fun it was so good IT was i missed that
show and sorry. SO good i had such a good time.
Being there you always made it just.

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