"Income Gap Relationships" w/ Kathy Griffin

Ring the Kathy Griffin alarm because the legend herself is on the podcast this week! We cover everything from catheters (both the medical device and Kathy's fan community), venture capital-funded gay vacation spots, and who is coming to Kathy's notorious dinner parties. Plus, we explore what happens when one person in a couple makes more money than the other. Let's just say that gender roles WILL jump out whether you want them to or not! Catch Kathy on her new tour "My Life On The PTSD List" (kathygriffin.net/tour) and don't forget to vote!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Okay, podcast starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Today we are in the studio in Hollywood, California.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
The life updates are NonStop, NonStop. I wish they would stop.
I literally wish for one day there were no life updates.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I would actually be so grateful for have to have
one day where I don't have to text anyone that
anything has happened.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I swear to God, the way I am fielding phone
calls left and right, you would not believe. So first
of all, I'm visiting La that's right to do my
famous stand up show. So now two nights, baby and
I the other day, in the same day, you were
in the hospital getting surgery while my sister in law
was giving birth. Two hospitals, two coasts, two patients, two

(01:00):
and I am I'm feeling like, you know, the carmelo soprano,
the matriarch at home, that's like, oh, my boys are
are okay, that's my that's Carmelo Southern carmel sopredo. And meanwhile,
my mom, who's very invested in both things, like how's Sam,
how's the baby, how's Sam calling me? The second I'm

(01:20):
you know, entering a work there whatever. Yeah, And then
I'm visiting you at the hospital. I'm saying, I need
to bring him two pastries. What if he's hungry? What
if my boy is hungry? And guess what I was,
and you were of course I'm getting a FaceTime to
meet the baby while I'm at the other hospital. Then
I'm like in the lobby of the hospital, people around me,
you know, having god knows what. And then I'm like
in the best mood ever, being like she's so cute,

(01:41):
and then everyone around me is like in the process
of like dealing with some terrible illness.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you've really held it all together,
my rock. You've been the rock to so many people
this week. And yeah, I had a surgery and you know,
I'm to the point and so many calls, so many texts.
My family's like, what's wrong, how are you? And I'm like,
I don't have time.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, well, there is a I'm there is a sort
of munchausen esque thing happening with you where no one
knows exactly what they do. Is Well, it's because.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's not like it's not like an easy it's not
a quick word. You can't be like, oh, I had
an appendectomy, of course, you know, it's sort of it's
mine was sort of custom.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, and you always go customer.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I've never if you're getting your surgeries off the rack,
you need to grow up. It's twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, we're in Los Angeles at Oscar's weekend. Like if
you're if you're out there literally getting like you're like amputated, Like,
grow up up, get a custom surgery.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, I just know that it's perfectly fine, and was
sort of kidney related and yeah, I'm gonna say it.
I have a catheterin currently.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So we were saying, you know, we'll bring our guests
in a second, and I am dying too. But the
big debate this weekend was we are having you know,
one of our true idols, role models, like she is mother,
you know, everyone want to craze. Everyone has voted, and
she is the President of the United States. Yes, and meanwhile,
you have a catheter and there's no around it. The

(03:07):
debate is do We were like, will Kathy find it
funny if we bring it up, or will she immediately
leave the room to me?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
To me, it had to be brought up because it
is so notable. It is, and I didn't know it
was going to happen, and I like the fear that
struck me when the doctor told me that, and then
I was like, The first thing I thought was like,
so I'm going to be in a room with Kathy
Griva trying to do a comedy podcast while I.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Have a catheter in Okay, we actually need to bring
her in because I'm shaking with anticipation. Oh my god,
please welcome you become literally the president of the United States.
Kathy Griffins.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh my god, I love her. She is a round
of applause, all right, first time. I'm so honored because
I went on Twitter before it became x which is
now just a Nazi playground, but prior to that, when
it mattered. I asked my fans, I said, Gaga has
her monsters, Nick Minaj has the barbs. What do you
guys want to be called? And the number one and

(04:00):
vote was they wanted to be called catheters.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh my god, wow.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I am honored, and my catheters support you. I have
had a catheter. I found it to be a great
relief because when I didn't have it and could not void,
which is the doctor word for me, it was so painful.
I felt like somebody was standing on my bladder with
a combat boot laughing.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
So my question is, how does your dick feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, it feels uncomfortable, but not it's been getting better
every day. And yeah, I've had it since Thursday. How
long do we have it till Monday? Okay, but we'll
say it feels every time I move.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
And the big part of the narrative is Sam's doctor
is being very chill about all of this. Sam didn't
even know he was going to have to do this,
and the doctor was like, what's the big deal? Right?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
He was really like, well, most people would even want this,
Like why are you being so weird about it?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
And You're like, well, I have to I have work,
Like why be able to go to work? He's like yeah,
why wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's like, okay, well it's a normal letters. Then the
doctors acting like none of us don't have a catheter.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah. And then I also felt gas lip because I
told my mom and I was like, isn't it crazy
that we're gonna, you know, have to record in Tamo
the caather And she's like, what's the big deal. I'm like,
why is everyone trying to getting it's normal to.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
My mom was like, that's horrible, and I was like, okay,
well don't go that hard, like I do have to
do it.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
The baby wish I had one in But I'm also
granting that it's horrible and it also could be normalized for.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
People, normalized, normalized gay guys.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Thank you. It's about time.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's about timeout the movement.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'm going out to dinner tonight and I think it's
I cannot something about how funny it will be to
like be having a martini and a catheters.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
You can often?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Are you going to drain yourself?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think I'm going to go as often as maybe
like every hour when the bag feels When I keep
saying for some reason, I keep referring to having the
catheter as Diva Mode unlocked.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well that's fabulous. That is fabulous, right, turn that front
upside down with.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
That extra I don't even need to pee, Diva.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Honestly, Disa Mode Unlocked would be a great album title
for you.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
It would be really good special.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, I think that's really genius.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I have to confront about something which is so I'm
as everyone every listener knows. I grew up in Greece.
My family is Greek, and I happened to see on
a social media platform that you went to Madonna with me.
Everdalos my number one, the Queen of Greece, literally, the queen.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
She is the Britney spears of Greece. She cannot go
three feet in Greece without being mobbed by fans.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Literally, and that's not a joke. And I last summer
was in Greece and my friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
From my big fact the Empire franchise.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And by the way, I was recently watching Curb. She's
in a season one episode of Curb. Larry's like doctor
or something. She's great, She's incredible. One of the biggest
like uh pains of my life was I was in
Greece and my friend had me over for lunch or something,
and it turned out that the day previous, the previous day,

(07:09):
she had mea Rdalos over and I had missed that
lunch and went to the other lunch.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
That is stranger, That is not appropriate when you could
have been with the Queen of Greece.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Literally, So how was are you friends with her?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm friends with her, We've been friends for a long time.
I don't even remember how I met her. You know,
a lot of these clubs I meet him at like that.
I call it the charity circuit.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I went to a thing last night for the Gay
and Lesbian Center, and I ran into Gabrielle Union, who
I haven't seen in years, or Gabby as I call her,
or at least as she was called back in the day.
And I don't know how I know Nia, but I
love that she has this one country where she can
go and she's got to have security and everybody wants
a piece of her. And then she goes and hangs

(07:52):
out with Tom and Rita. Oh yeah, oh, I know Rita,
the honorary King and Queen of Greece.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Honorary excuse you, Rita Will.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's right, that's right, But there are two Greeks queens.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
When I was growing up, the big thing was Tom
and Rita had a home in I believe in Tapers,
which was an island, and he would there were stories
that he would grill on the beach and like give
everyone like a little blacky little.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Sausage, getting getting sausage from Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And read of course, you know dancing in the corner
of the traditional.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, do you feel like the Neo Ardalas.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Okay, guys, kind of yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
When we went to Madonna. I don't know if you
know the movie Soap Dish, but it's one of my favorites.
And there's a great scene where Sally Field isn't getting
recognized enough and so Woopy Gilbert takes her to a
mall in Jersey. And I have to admit walking into
the Madonna concert with Cia Harris, Hilton Lunel and Theo Vardalas,
and I got a lot of shout outs, like a

(08:51):
lot of hey Kathy, and I was stopping and they are,
of course very famous, so they're all going really fast
get into the seats. I'm not gonna speed up that moment,
so I was slowing down, posing. I let go to
Paris at least three times and said, you're on your own, bitch,
it's my time now. But it was a fantastic night.
We had a wild girls evening and I did do

(09:12):
a post about it on my TikTok or my Instagram.
You can see it. Because as much as we all
worship the Queen Madonna, I did not know she has
a strict no air conditioning policy. We chrosey O'donnald said,
extends to her life and her homes, Yes, because she
thinks it's unhealthy. And so we ended up leaving early

(09:33):
because I'm an older gal, and we actually started getting overheated.
And even though Paris Silton was dressed up like S
and M. Madonna in some little off of Sheet God
from Trashy Laingerie that day, Lunelle was in like these
fendy sweaters. And see you had on this big taff
at a gown that had layers to it, and we
kept tripping on it and sitting on it. So we

(09:55):
ended up having to leave early. And as a gay man,
I feel very pilty about that. And I would not
be surprised if Madonna yelled at me, although I don't
know her, but if I ever met her, I'm ready
for her to yell at me and say, who do
you think you are leaving my show?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I think it would be an honor for you to
be Yeah, that would be trill.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I would be laughing and crying at the same time.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
And Dovinie, you know, she yelled at him. She yelled
at Andy Cohen when I saw her somebody should Well,
I mean you're talking maybe there are now, Yeah, that's true.
Wait why did she yell at him because she was
like she sort.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Of stop saying bad show up?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah because he yeah, because he like talks about her
on Watch What Happens Live, And she like spotted him
in the crowd and was like, Andy, you stupid fact, yes, imply.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Look, I gotta say I loved her show. I think
it's an amazing show. You should go see it if
you can't. And the fact that she's doing the same
dance moves as the freaking videos in the MTV Heyday
and she's sixty five is pure inspiration. And so I've
been reading a lot of Age's comments on TikTok and
Instagram and I'm not having it. That is our queen.

(11:04):
And does she sing? You know, probably not, but we
don't really go to hear the actual singe. She's not
Maria Collis. I'm just saying she never was, but she's
our Madonna. And the way she gives up the hits
and she sings bad Girl, which she hardly ever sings
live and Lived to Tell, and she gives up the

(11:26):
hits and it's a two and a half hour show.
You know, not that I know because they tell me no.
But it's a great show. And I love that she's
doing it at sixty five because I don't think it's desperate.
I think she's proving a point that while Share still tours,
which is also one of my faves, but Madonna, just

(11:46):
the dancing part is what kills me. And just you
know that Jana Jackson tour is also amazing, and Janet
at sixty is doing the same moves from the videos
and also not singing, but not important to me, not
in important to me.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Who is singing?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Sea?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, Miley? I love my.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I am over. I don't need everyone.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean, here's the big question.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I needa sing.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh God no.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But when I did go see her Vegus residency, I
did go with a genuine heterosexual who I dragged.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Beautiful, who I'm divorcing because of this.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, I'm just kidding, but he turned to me and
he about twenty minutes in, so sincerely, he goes, I
don't think she's even really singing. I think she's lip singing, sinking.
I go, look around, you think these guys care? These
guys are doing car wheels. Their phones are out, they're
jumping up and down and dancing. Nobody gives a ship.
She's doing the best she can, Brittany.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, and that's why Miley is such a big deal
when she comes out, because people are like, oh my god,
people can sing if they want Kelly Clarkson.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Kelly Clarkson, she can sing anything.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
No, you know what. The big mystery is what.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Beyonce probably does. I would think she does like half
and half because you can't dance that much. And see,
that's what people have to understand. She's really really moving
around doing real choreography, so she's probably got the autotune mic,
which is also.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Fine with me.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's part of the show and it's a show, not
a recording session. We're not in the studio with Phil
Spector trying not to get shot. We're just trying to
make the case happy and do a lot of fun dancing.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yes, that was my biggest regret because that seems so
cool and that.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Album really it's good too. You can see the movie.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh you should see the movie.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, Okay, I should see the movie because that really
talk about one for the games, like yeah, I mean
it was like literally she just delivered.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
It was only she was practically banning straights.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean, yeah, yeah, why couldn't give her the Grammy?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Right? The streets system.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Still there.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
And by the way, can we just I know we're
being light, but can I just say to the gays,
you guys, elections are not every four years, they're not
every two years, They're every year. Please, your rights are
being rolled back at a unbelievably of high speed. Please gaze,
get out there and vote vote blue, no matter who.

(14:13):
Vote down ballot, not just the presidential And Joe is
our guy, and I don't want to hear how old
he is when you know Trump is only eighteen months younger.
And Joe Biden has done right by the gays. And
remember we don't have the House of Representatives. We lost
the House, so Joe can't pass every single bill you want.
But Joe is our guy. I'm not fucking around. If

(14:35):
Trump gets back in there, say goodbye to marriage.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You will say you see.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Gay bashing like you've never imagined. It's going to be
worse than pre stonewall. So there's my serious warning that
I have to do as a humble, humble icon.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, we are in the we'll send you.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Can you catch me calling myself an icon?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, listen, did you catch me disagreement? Yeah, I
didn't blame the ones I said correct. Yeah, But we're
gonna we'll send you a T shirt when in the
process of printing merch that says I listened to Straighter
lab and I vote yes, yes, perfect.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
I will wear it probably incredible.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
The Daily Mail without makeup anytime.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
That would be actually groundbreaking for us good.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I will absolutely wear it.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
To do our first segment.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I think we should do so eager.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I will wear that T shirt until I'm paparazzi didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean, I will wear it out. It would be
our greatest time. You got to see you in the
Daily Mail wearing our merch. And it's a it's a
positive message, both positive message. That's true. So, Kathy, our
first segment is called straight Shooters. And in this segment,

(15:46):
we give you a series of rapid fire questions. You
have to choose this thing or this other thing. It's
not going to make any sense.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I don't need it to.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And the one rule is you can't ask any follow
up questions about how it works.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
You just like I'm barely interested in this conversation.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Let's see the second ry.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Kathy Ready being best dressed at the Grammys, or being
arrested in Miami. Arrested Miami, okay, Kathy.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
A Fellini film or a Panini press press.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay, Kathy. Being open to interpretation, or being honest about
the allegations.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Honest about the allegations, Okay, silver Lake or Golden Shower,
silver Lake.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Speeding on the freeway or receding during a freeway receding during.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, government corruption or chocolate mint confection, government corruption.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, seizing the damn day, or teasing that dumb gay
mind blown.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Oh, teasing that dumb gay.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
You gotta okay, popping a melatonin or shopping with Pharaoh
Comma ronan.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Melatonin.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know, we rank our guest performance on a scale
of zero to one thousand doves. I'm in honor of
the Lady Gaga song one thousands, and I gotta say
it's going to be a thousand. It's going to be
a thousand my day. Yeah. And you know, I actually
think we've been saying recently we've been a little too
easy on our guests with the ratings I think almost
eleven hundred.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I say, we go, okay to ever go the doves,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We're going into debt.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
We're going into debts, debt.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
You may need them at some point. I get it,
you get it.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
The one. Once we start selling some merch we'll get
exactly Yeah, well incredible. I mean should we get into
our topic? I think so.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Can I employ the tour for one second?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, we have to actually after you do that, then
I have something to shut you. Please pause.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I love it, okay, because you know my cancelation was
up it. Let's not act like any other celebrity got
canceled the way.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I I mean, you are cut the ship there was
on the.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
No fly list, investigated by the Department of Justice. They
were very seriously considering me, charging me with conspiracy to
assassinate the President of the United States. I was interrogated
by the DOJ under oath. It came to directly from
the Oval office in the Attorney General's office. Never has
happened in the history of comedy, not even with the
great George Carlin, who the local police bothered. And so

(18:10):
for me to be on tour for the first time
in six years is just so epic and meaningful. So
go to Kathy Griffin dot com. The name of the
tour is Kathy Griffin My Life on the pts D List.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It's a throwback, but also at PTSD and we talk
about it, and please buy tickets and come with an
open mind.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
A true American hero. Oh yeah, I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
In the history you are.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Books talk about rather than the Marines, I would like
to see the Marines go through what you.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Went through money, if they could, even for one day.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I would like to see a single marine as the
theater because I have not I don't think they're I
think anyone's lining up to hear what they have to
say about beyond.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know, but I have a lot of thoughts.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, okay, so I do have to show you something, Okay.
This is a photo from the year two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Very good year for me, very good year, from the
book signing of Kathy Griffin Official.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Book Club selection.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I would say that this was in San Francisco, right
by the water stick. It looks like I'm almost caressing
her hair or something.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Maybe you are maybe maybe you know I need cl
head patch.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's me and Kathy she's holding up her book official
book book Club selection in San Francisco in two thousand and.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Nine, which I thought by giving that title, I could
trick Oprah Yeah into putting it in her book club,
but she didn't go for it.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, you know what I'm hearing is now it doesn't
even matter, Like now it's all about the other Reese's
book Club Jenna bush Hagar.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
And then they get turned into movies, and then.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
They get turned into movies. Yeah, that's the ticket. So
that's your next book. Should be something that you that
can be turned into deares.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, the book, get the hint.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Kathy griff best seller.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
All right?

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Wait what about the opera ozempic special?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Okay? So out wait do you think I mean?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know about this?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Okay. So she had to get off the board of
directors of Weight Watchers because she admitted she's lost all
the weight because of ozembic, not because of Weight Watchers.
But in Oprah fashion, she's going to do a whole
special about it. And I'm wondering if she's going to
get other celebs to admit they're on it, because I
feel like, if you're a celeb, who's on it, not

(20:20):
that I'm saying they are Christina Aguilera. Let's just say
it could possibly be Christina Aguilera, not that I know allegedly.
I am alleging. This is my opinion. Has covered on
the umbrella the First Amendment under center.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
They can't put you on the FI list for.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That, not for that.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, Christina's powerful, but I wonder if she's going to
get anybody else to be like And now Kelly Clark's
we can't talk allegedly. I'm not saying Kelly's on ozembic,
although we've already discussed that she has. Both of those
women have killer voices and do lip sync. But I'm

(20:56):
just telling you, whenever that Oprah ozempic special is, I
am there, I'm I have a screening room. You're invited
and homosexuals. We might let a couple of lesbians in
if they care.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Frankly, I don't know lesbian's care that Oprah's on ozempic.
Please write it and we have really help let us know.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, although Rose O'Donnell, who is a famous lesbian, is
on Maunjaro because she's diabetic and had a coronary rest.
So it's a miracle drug. For her. So I actually
pro Zempic and Manjar I think they get a bad rap.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
So there's a controversial tape.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well from what from what I understand, as long as
there's enough for everyone, because the big deal is like.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
What is actual diabetics needed?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
But as long as there's enough forever, as long as
enough for everyone, it doesn't seem like there are crazy
side effects or that it's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
It isn't confusing conversation to wait into because sometimes I'm like, wait,
what am I saying about?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Like if I'm like do whatever? Yeah, what is the
correct doctors?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's why I'm here. I thought this like that TV show.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
To no, this is the catheters.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Oh the Cath's fantastic. Then I know how to talk
to you. Yeah, exactly, all right, what's the segment?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Sorry, okay, no, no, no, we're just so now this is
the normal you know, the normal episode. So we want
to ask you what straight topic did you bring with
you today? What's straight about it? And then we'll sort
of get into it and have our little takes too.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
All right, So this one is a little I don't
want to say dark. Yeah, But so as a I'm
sixty three. I've been, you know, working for decades doing
specials and TV shows and all this other stuff. So
I'm not gonna lie. I've saved up a nice chunk
of cha cash. I'm also good with money, which is
my other talent. I only have two. I'm funny and

(22:40):
I'm good with money. And so, by the way, save
your money. There's my advice. Save it, sock it away,
because take it for me, you want it for a
rainy day, because my rainy day was six freaking years long.
But my topic is I think I have yet to
be with a straight well straight guy. I was what
if I just douted to the I can't to be

(23:00):
with the straight guy?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Can? I have heard no?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
But I think I've yet to be with a guy
that isn't eventually feeling either emasculated or somehow diminished. Because
I'm a well known person and because I'm technically the breadwinner,
because rich guys tend to not ask me out. They
usually want like the young bimbos. So does that happen
in the gay world? And because of the gender politics,

(23:25):
when you have two men or two women or two
trans folks, is that out the window?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I think go ahead, no, this is a juicy thing.
This reminds me of like a conversation about height almost. Yeah,
Like in straight world, height is like the most is
so important. Tall girls like want taller guys. Guys feel
like if they're not.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Tall, they're girls are obsessed with Heightsed.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'm short, so I've never had to come up, but
my friend like, I'm five to three, but my girlfriends
that are like five to seven, they it's a big deal.
Plus they want to wear heels. Yeah, so those gals
need a guy that's like five to eleven.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
And I've heard a lot of like tall girls be
like it's annoying because tall guys still want tiny girls.
And you're like, and it's like if I'm a girl,
if I'm a five to nine woman, I want a
taller man, but then he's dating the five to two women, right, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
And I think this is something that I don't think
happens as much in the gay world. Is like this
like monetary uh, the monetarym balance meaning something more about you.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, it's complicated because it's almost simpler in the straight
world because there are these established norms and you either
follow them or you subvert them, and either way, you're
like making a conscious decision. And because there are no
norms in the gay world, it's almost like so much
goes unsaid that resentments can really build.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Up, right, and you know what I mean paying exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, so I don't like I do know I'm not
doxing them, but I do know a gay couple where
like that really became a thing and then one of
them had like kind of a break and was and
was just like woke up when Dan was like, wait,
I haven't paid for anything in ten years, and like
I don't have my independence and blah blah blah, I've
sort of without realizing given up my career. Like and

(25:10):
I do think what happened to that couple they broke
up and the other one moved back in with his parents.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh well, you know, I got to start somewhere a job.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I do think you're right.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, I mean have you ever felt this like I
there was like especially like starting out, Misha was like
my long term boyfriend was like making more money than
me and in a way that I was very self
conscious of. And I would be sort of like like
really like, well I'm gonna like like I would work
odd jobs to like pay rent and stuff. But like
he would be like, well, I want to go to

(25:45):
a nice dinner and I'd be like, well, I can't
right split that.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You know what I will say, And I'm sort of
like working through this in real time. So I Matthew
and I were sort of comparable for a while when
the strike happened, and so I had like lost the
job and then the strike hap and so I had
like a bad twenty twenty three and during that time
it very much so I was making less money than him,

(26:09):
like flat out, And that is the year that I
proposed to him. And I'm like, did I subconsciously was
I like I need to reclaim back some power by
being the one to propose, right by becoming the man
literally like by initiating. And I do think that might
be part of part of it or something.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Do you feel like in the gay community, it's something
that's discussed a lot because with straight women. I've never
been this girl, obviously, but I know girls that have
like a list and it's like he's got to have
this kind of car, he's got to make this much money,
and he's got to and I just never thought that way, No,
And I believe my parents fault.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
To answer your question, I do think many gay guys
do think that way. Yeah, and it's a type, don't
you think.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
No, it's like a it's like a yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's a very.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Specific type, the twinkie.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yea, you said it. Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I was like, this is take care of me daddy' daddy.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Of course there's this type.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I even think like this, does.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Daddy daddy then resent the twink? Or is the twink
then resent daddy.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
D I think it's actually beneficial situation. And you know what,
Sam and I talk about this sometimes, like being gay
guys in our thirties, we're in this noman zone or
we can't be young twink, please help me, daddy, And
we also can't be daddy yet. Yeah, and we are
invisible and like we'll be like in a in like
a party and it's all gay guys and it's like
clearly the older rich guys are looking for a hot

(27:28):
young guy. And then we're sort of like, so what
are you doing later? You guys need a new name
for just people in.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
The middle, your own category, like the bears. There's yeah,
so they've tried to the middles.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Then the mids. They've tried to make like twunk happen.
But twink is like if you're like twink and what
it's like, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I thought I was drunk, Twink, I have seen anything. No,
I just would never be inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Twunk is am I wrong? The twunk is like more built.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's supposed to be like a thicker twin.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
A thicker twink, okay, and then of course Otter, as
you know, is a hairy twink.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
But I do think like a twunk is sort of
like like when you're slightly older. Yeah, when you're like
a twink in your twenties, you sort of grow into
a twunk.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah. Interesting. I mean it's almost like if you're in
your thirties, you sort of are like, well, now I'm
taking a break from being gay and I'm basically straight
because I'm invisible.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
And then when I take out middle ages in thirties
and exactly, so that's why we can't be the mids mids.
You're too young to be mid should be fifties.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, So in your relationships, has the money thing always
yes an issue?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I mean this is I don't know if the guys
would say that, but look, I mean I went on
the then Larry Kings Show and talked to then, you know,
Barbara Walsh is my first husband, you know, stole from
me and mezzled and that was brutal because my trust
issues went out the door. But also I couldn't figure
out why because I really did like provide everything, like

(28:58):
he didn't need to do that. But it's something that
every other female comic that I know who's in my
generation deals with. Maybe the young girl younger girls don't
I know the other thing I should confess, I don't
know that many comics. I know the girls in my
little clique, which is like Wanda psychs, Chelsea ham Or,
Whitney Cummings, Sarah Silverman, Margaret Chow, but I don't know

(29:20):
like a lot of the young up and coming girls.
So maybe it's a generational thing.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm trying to think of, like the women we know
in comedy and whether they struggle with this.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I feel like a lot of the dynamics I'm familiar
with are like the woman, especially when it's like two comedians.
I know a lot of like the woman comedian being
successful and the males. And now I feel like I'm
being mean to like a million of my friends.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I know, we can't know.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I'm actually I'm not going say that.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Actually is I think that too? Yeah, it's funny. I
actually I can think of two instances of people we
know where the man is more successful, and this is
both both of them are comedians and all the rest
of the women is more successful. But then, but Kathy,
but you you were in dating comedian and you were
in dating.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
No, I am not attracted to comics at all. I
am attracted to regular guys. But I have been, you know,
a woman of means now for thirty years, and so
I had just I have no longer had an expectation
to meet a guy who has money or power. But
like I said, those guys don't come up to me.
Usually it's younger guys. But I have fucked every bar

(30:24):
back in Hollywood and Los Angeles and the greater Los
Angeles area and the Inland Empire and Orange County and
San Francisco. Anyway, you get the idea, not so much
conquered Agro country. You know, I skipped to be So
I just maybe it's me because I just don't have
an expectation of meeting like a rich guy.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
But I look I have a house that's paid for outright.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I kind of almost can't imagine another guy having a
house and him being like, Okay, who's house we going
to live in? So there might be a part of
me that's going into it with that. Now, what about
what the gays with the houses? Because you know, you
got gays with a pump Springs house in a wee house.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
So this is a confusing thing.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, whose house are we living in? Whose house are
we flipping for more money?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh god?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I have the lesbians taken that over?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
No, well who's are doing it ethically? Except for well then,
and I think the gays like do not care about
Like the lesbians are like they're also reading a book
about gentrification as they're flipping. Yeah, I mean they're trying
to do it tastefully. They're trying to do it tastefully.
And then the gay guys are literally like with a gun. Yeah,
they're like, we turned this into a vacation. Vacation. Yeah,

(31:35):
did you see that? There is this group of gay
businessmen that are trying to do a new fire island.
So they found you know, like Europe, Like they are
saying they found like on island they're not saying where
it is.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Did you guys, is there a gay island?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well so not yet, but if you give money to
these adventure capital you can.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
So that is not a bad investment at all. And
I am not a risky investor. But let's tell you
if I just put the word out to just my
friends alone, by the way, we're building a gay island
which will turn into a country, like kidding, it's either
they're going to be a principality.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
They're gonna win your a vision every year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, And so if that's a happening thing, that's actually
a genius idea.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's sort of like you know, every other you know,
Mikono's Fire Island, it happens sort of organically like gay
and usually how it happened is like it was a
very undesirable you know location.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
And you people can then exactly they flipped an entire
island literally. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
So it is a fascinating experiment to be like we're
doing this with intention, We're we're literally going in with
like venture money. Yeah, and an island.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Do we know where in Europe it's going to be?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think so, I think there's something scammy about this
like I think maybe I think maybe they like are
looking for an island, the Republic of Chad.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
They haven't found it yet, but politically it's.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
We're flying a desirable island. It's the goddamn I mean,
it's true, will find one that somehow doesn't have climate change. Yeah,
there's a mid century furniture shop already on the island
that the indigenous people ran. It's going to be fabulous
in anyway. But it's really kind of a genius idea.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I mean, it would be hard to get there.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Elected we're all going, they're taking me in. I'm insports.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I never went and we'll see you at the Tricksie
Metel show.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yep, I'll be there.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I do think like maybe generationally the housing thing is
like we're just sort of like, at least I'm sort
of like, well, I'm never going to have a house.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
It is. There is something about like, uh yeah, even
if you.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Have two guys renting places, Pattie decide who's going to
give up their place and who's gonna that's.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
A good point.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean essentially you just go to the bigger place.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
In my experience, right, yeah, the nicer one probably the
big one or the one with one.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, you know, it is funny like I moved into
my boyfriend's place when we moved in together, and there
was about one week where I was I felt insecure
about that, and then I was like, I don't care anymore. No,
you're good at that. Actually, do you help with the rent? Yes? Yes, no,
we split everything that's.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Very gay in the straight world. It kind of right,
it's weird, like I don't know, like I I never
like asked my husband for rent money because it just, yeah,
felt like I'm just the one with the house and.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
It would not be a big not at all.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
And that's why I'm asking is I just can't believe
in twenty twenty four we're still going through this and
I just don't know where the gays were on the
gender politics when it's the same gender totally.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, I do think it's just like because there are
again no established rules, it's both so liberating, yeah, and
also so scary because you don't know what rule book default, right.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a very confusing thing.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
What's the government going to look like I'm gay Island.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's a great question give the parliament. I think dictatorship, yeah, dictatorship. Yeah.
And also are they electing because the thing with gay
guys is they don't actually I want to elect a
gay guy. Okay, they want to elect like a tall woman, right.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think there's something too.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's sort of like with comedy. Actually, I feel this way,
where like gay guys prefer, you know, a really funny
woman comedian to like a gay guy being on stage
because they're like, why isn't that me on stage? Yeah,
I'm a gay guy. I'm funny. I'm funny all the time.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I look at a woman, it's like, oh, I can
just sit back and look at it. Yeah, no, I look,
I would not be I would not have that house
if it weren't for my gay audience. And the places
I'm sold out on my tour are not just blue cities,
but you know, I'm sold out in Long Beach because
you people have taken over that yes, you know how

(35:44):
long it's like congratulations, congratulations and honor. It's near Laguna,
which you people have stamped with your robber stamp. And
the other one that's almost sold out is Palm Desert Shock.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Sure sure, like an old macaw them in Palm.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Desert and honey, that's when you get the homeowning gaze. Yeah,
you get the little older gays there and they have
maybe three houses, like maybe two in Amsprings and then
one and we.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Are you know, we went's that game that's a juy. No,
you didn't, you didn't, I didn't go Townhouse. No. So
Townhouse is this bar in essentially like the Upper east
Side kind of and it is you know, in the townhouse.
That's what it's called Townhouse, and it is traditionally where
older gay men intermingle with younger gays and historically also

(36:34):
where a lot of like gay sex work would happen.
And it's one of these places that's sort of frozen
in time because you know, now everything is online and
now everyone meets online. But then you go there and
you really do feel like, oh, we're back in the
hey day.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I saw a documentary about it.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yes's reminded me.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah. But I think those gays, like those homeowning gays
are the ones coming to your show. Is the one
that is the ones that.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Go to town and they've seen it before.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
And I look out of the audience sometimes and I
see a guy my age and I think, oh my god,
this guy may have seen me for the first time
thirty years ago. I absolutely love that. I love that
I get repeat business. That is good because I change
my act all the time. Every show is different every city.
I start with the local material. Although I have a
show in Huntington, New York on Long Island and there's
a Nazi march across from my show and they used

(37:18):
my tour poster. Oh no, Nazis are protesting the categ
Griffin comedy show. That's terrified Nazis.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I mean, I'm used to the Fred Phelps people the Kansas.
When I go there, it's the God hates Fags signe.
Although the Fred Phelps people are they're all in bread
and their teeth ops.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well, that is sort of like it is, honestly punching
down to even Yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Gays just end up posing with them, yes, which is
really an insult to me, but I understand it's part
of the exporld.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I have a I mean, I'm not gonna get into it.
I have a joke right now, and the punch light
is God is a woman and she hates fags. And
I think that's a really fun sign that you can
have as a counter protester, maybe with your face.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, it's still feminists.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Empowering.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I know some marches and the
other way.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
The other thing is is keep marching. We kind of
stopped marching with COVID. Let's get back to march. Who
knows we had a close election. I'm getting I'm very
nervous for you people. Kiss those rights goodbye.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I mean, should we all move to purple states and
vote there?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay, see you there. I mean you're doing the work.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Should we turn into Florida?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Lass what he's registered to vote in Florida? Okay?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
See, that's a.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Smart is literally doing more for democracy than we are.
We need to step it up.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
And by the way, can we just talk about how
he looks by far the best out of the instant
reunion for himself. But I mean Justin, first of all,
I think the straits are kind of turning on Justin.
Do guineys care about Justin anymore?

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I Mean, here's the thing. Justin is just I hate
to say it, but he's sort of like embarrassing that
Like it's just like he's.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Doing the same dance moves from the.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Nineties exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
He didn't bring sexy back.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
He did not bring sex.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
He tried. But also I can't forgive him for Janet Andrew.
I'd him for Divas.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
He's a horrible person. But there is this thing that
I think is a gig guy thing where you like
see someone flopping and then you want to protect Thunderdog
starting to become under.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
The nostalgia factor is very strong nostalgia factory.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
But also it's like when everyone is, oh, he sucksy
sexy sex, You're sort of like, well, I'm sort of like, well,
he doesn't suck that much.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Like there's something where I want to be, like.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Where he had Brady say his dick is small, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Like he's he's I think, I mean, he definitely deserves
to suffer. Yeah, But then it's like, but I get
I pushed back when people are like, well, and why
do people ever like his music? And I'm like hold
on like that, but he was.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Sort of you know, he was just the chosen one
and he was given everything, like why does he get
to work with Timberland and Nelly for and why does
he get to like be the number one and the
number one sex symbol all the stuff He also did.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
A lot of as they now say, cultural appropriate, yes,
like embarrassing amounts.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I think that is already also called out in.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
The book in a hilarious way. I saw that because
I hosted the Billboard Awards one year in like nineteen
ninety nine, and it was the height of him seeing Brittany.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
And the way those kids would talk like they were black.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
You have about this specialist, Yes.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
So uncomfortable, because first of all, what you do as
a white person is, I'm sorry, I just look around
to see if there's a genuinely black person because I
want to make sure they're okay, while white people are like, yo,
what's up? What's up? And that's why I love when
Brittany did that thing about him seeing genuine and be
like phoshizzle, genuine phoshos.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
So funny because it's true.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
You know she I'm not saying she wrote that book,
but I'm saying that part's true.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, oh absolute, I'm like, you was telling that story.
Even I'm like, I like, it's insane that you were
just like around them, like around them.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
But I mean, I look back and I see either
pictures of myself with certain people, and I can't believe
I was there. You guys, I've turned into Forrest Gump.
I've never been literally, I've like met everybody, and somehow
I've been in weird situations with like almost everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think you've done so many things that are genuinely
iconic that people forget, Like the fact that you're in
the slim shaded video is not even the top twenty.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
It's yes, are we gonna have a problem here? Attention? Attention?
Are we gonna have a problem here? Yeah, I'm in
a slim shaving video. I got the job because I
went up to doctor Dre who was the director, and
I said I didn't know him, and I said, look,
I'm just curious, now in the world did you think
of me for this part? And he said, with no hesitation,

(41:36):
he goes snoop said, you're really funny.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I mean, that's come on, that's you. You got me
a gig that is so crazy. Would you ever run
for office?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I would never because I have too many skeletons in
my closet because of my political places. They're all out.
But I'm just saying, when you have Nazis protesting a
comedy show, maybe you shouldn't be running.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
For office, or maybe that's exactly who should.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Be Congresswoman Kathy Griffin.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Congressman or can I can I just go to president?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I don't mean to be right, I don't mean to
be rude, but I don't have time. I have half
a long on my left side. I had lung cancer.
I need to go right to.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
You need to go.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
You can consider it. It's a medical issue. It's a medical.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Doctors to be president.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I certainly do.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Although you're not. You're you know, you are all in
for Biden. You're not going to primary him. So maybe
the solution is he elect.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Wings you're like he even that's right, Ambassador to the UN.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Maybe you could be sort of a Dick Cheney figure, like.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
To the woman behind the scene I'm in the situation room.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes, or sort of like he's making a speech and
you're behind him, and when he says something kind of crazy,
you're like, right, I do like.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
A funny look or a good one liner. Yeah, exactly,
hold up a picture slowly of me, Lady Democrats, and
then I just slowly put it down.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
It's possible that would actually be really, really helpful. I
think I feel like, Okay, maybe I'm wrong about this.
But it used to be that in every election, celebrities
would really come out and be like campaign. Is that
not happening as much anymore.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Because we get canceled for opening our mouths about anything
and everything.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
There is more scrutiny.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
It is so bad. But let me just say this,
and I do make jokes about her in my act
in a tender and loving way. Taylor Swift, don't come
at me, Swifties, Oh my god, I know. I'm terrified, terrified.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
On record, we have a new movement which is being
neutral about Taylor Swift and it is the most controversial
opinion you can have.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Sorry, I can't be seeing that. Did you say neutral?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Because everyone's either like she's a queen or she should
die and we're like, no, we are neutral about Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yes, But what I actually do like her as a
change agent and I like that she's the first think
about this. She is the first woman in pop or
rock music. I think of all the divas, Share didn't
get this, Madonna didn't get at this. Stevie Nicks didn't
get this. To have her man who's literally the football
star at her shows, pumping his fist with his dad

(44:09):
and cheering her on. Remember with Share all of her boyfriends,
Oh you're mister Share, like Stevie Nicks never had, like
the dude she was dating also be famous Like, so
I love her as a change agent, and I honestly
think if she stumps for Biden, if she even did
one high profile event, I think she could tip the election.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I mean literally, we talk about this whole and that's
so gay to say, because it's true.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
There's only you know, there's no mainstream monoculture anymore. It's
there are very few things that are like at the
level of you know, Justin and Janet at the super Bowl,
you know, like and I'm sure do you find this
when you're touring where you'll say something in people and
you think it's something everyone will recognize, and then they
don't because everyone watches different things on their phones and
there's not like, you know, Primetime TV, like just like even.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
The Housewise exactly exactly, you know you could make house
there are let's say there are only two franchises at
the time, everybody knew Teresa Guidi che flipping the tape.
Everybody knew Carolyn Manzell going all I care about this family,
and now you're trying to keep up with the chicos
in prison, Salt Lake City and Potomac. I never had
the time to get into. But yeah, as a comic,

(45:17):
I find that what I do is I'll set stuff
up so like, if I want to talk about love
is Blind, then I'll kind of tee it up and
be like, well they meet in these pods and try
to make that part funny because there aren't those things
anymore that are necessarily cultural events. By the way, besides,
will Taylor go to the super Bowl from Singapore it

(45:40):
to the stadium.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
No, That's why you're so right the cheek and to
the skills, because there are so few things. It's like
this year or last year, what were the what were
the big things? Like Taylor Barbenheimer, Yeah, like what was
a huge I.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Would say?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I mean, yeah, I I honestly think as much as
I adore beyond saying that album, I'm like, was that
even too niche to be?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Well? This is this is what freaks me out. That's
when it's like you look at like the Spotify most
played and like Tate McCrae has like double the monthly
listeners of Beyonce literally I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Because I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's a new pop girl, okay, okay, but apparently she's gigantic,
and but I've never heard of her.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's very no no, okay, Kathy. Do you know like
sort of like the young al pop Like do you
know who Charlie XCX is?

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Okay, So I feel like Tate mccray's maybe the next
generation that.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Nobody throws a phone at her.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Now I see those young pop girls and people are
taking their telephones.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, it's insane.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
It's insane, I think, anymore ridiculous to sit there and
enjoy the music and dance a att all do people?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Is a phone use out of control at your shows?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I asked people not to only because so much in
comedy can be taken out of context. And if somebody
takes something I did on Tuesday night and puts it
on YouTube, then my Wednesday night audience thinks it's old
material when it's not right. So for comedy it's rough.
For music, I actually think it's a promotional tour. I
think if you're an artist, a music artist, and you
have a song, you want people sharing it on the phone.

(47:15):
For comedy, of course, I want people to just listen
and be present, you know, and not they're not really
going to watch the video and they go home. I mean,
come on. And plus you can just hear like that
one person laughing too loud three seats now, so it's
not the best quality.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I think Taylor Swift should date Joe and Jill Biden.
I think that's how we should do it. Take America
all Amoryson Polymaylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I really Polly's and you get the Swifties.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
There you go. I think Paul Amory has reached a
moment where literally, if there was a presidential debate and
they were like listen, you know, audience questions, there would
be a question about polyamory. Someone would raise their hand
and be like, how do you feel about in legalizing
polyamory in the future, which.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
I can answer. How Joe Biden won't answer that? Yeah,
I do not know he would. He would quote something
from the Senate rules.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Didn't he say recently that the secret to a long
marriage is good sex?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I hope he did.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I mean, I'm addicted to like someone asking Joe Biden
about polyamory makes me laugh.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
It's so much. I love the idea.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
And yet I feel like Jill would handle it.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Oh sure, she's a teacher. Oh she's probably got a
boy on the side.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
She had a boy the side.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
And then Trump would do the thing of like he
would take it to like we need to ban learning
about it, and we.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Need to ban people, Yes, exactly right, people, and.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Like they're teaching probably amory in schools now, like we
have to ban the be a hashtag the children's book
where three platypuses are having a freeway like.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
It's burn it, yeah, it burn it.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Oh god, let them have a drag brunch.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I know. Can you believe we're saving drag brunch?

Speaker 4 (48:47):
No, I thought we were done with that.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I know, it's a long time ally, you know, I
thought we were. That's when that's when I'm seeing to
your listeners get out there and vote, because that's it.
We can't count on like the normal sort of rules
and regulations that would somehow write the ship. We are
out there gaze without a tether. It's scary out there.
And let me tell you, if Trump gets back in,

(49:10):
it's not just Trump. It's going to be all those
like crazy Margie Greens and Lauren Boberts and all those
nut jobs, and they are not it's okay to say that, No,
it's okay. I think the is flat people that think
youan on it. By the way, I just learned that
there's QAnon gays you got oh, yes, of course, Okay, wait,
how okay?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
How?

Speaker 4 (49:30):
How where are they?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You know? How did you know that?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
George?

Speaker 3 (49:34):
George.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I really think that it goes back to the lack
of mainstream culture because I think people have nothing to
grasp onto and so they kind of just believe any
flashy thing they see on the.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Some gay guys are Tate McCrae, Some gay guys are
Quano exactly, yeah, and how can you believe.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
By the way, I'm on the quote Epstein flight log,
which is a list of just Democrats that don't like Trump,
but the number of people that flood my social media
saying what was it like on Epstein Island Trump twenty
twenty whoa, they're not even saying twenty twenty four, by
the way, but like, how at what point in QAnon

(50:09):
do you not stop and go okay, not that part?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Well, you know what are you just all it? I
think there's a general paranoia. I think everyone feels sometimes rightly,
so that like there are people in charge that don't
have their best interests at heart. Okay, I agree with,
of course, right, And but then and so you want
easy answers and obviously, like you're not going to go
and and learn about like political theory and the ruling

(50:32):
class and all this stuff. But if someone is like, oh,
you know, it's a cabal of kidfuckers, right, and Kathy
Griffin is one of this, you're gonna be like, oh yeah,
I never liked her anyway.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Absolutely, and honestly I know that I'm on that fake
list because of the Trump picture.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
It's not but okay, so on the list is Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Of course, I mean Killary Hilary, of course, Tom Hanks, Madonna,
Robert to Nero. There's no point where somebody goes, you know,
I kind of doubt that Tom Hanks went Depstyn Island,
but it's amazing to me that people maybe pandemic made
it worse. Also a computerized really isolation, isolation. But I

(51:16):
just want the gays that are quton to know if
you keep going down that path.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Kathy's message for gays that are.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Us seriously is like, let me tell you, gays, Quton
is not for you. If you keep going down that path,
you'll find the Qunons want to assassinate you in ways
that are beyond And remember these are people that think
all gay men are groomers. Yes, right, right, so please
be careful of Quton gaze. I know, conspiracy theory is fun,

(51:44):
but let's just once you start that path.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
You know what, Kathy, we need to come up with
a new conspiracy theory for gays that is that is safe.
And how like I think you know, when people thought
that Avri Levine was a clone, that's a fun conspiracy. Beautiful.
She's still doing fine, she.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Is probably well that's sort of the earlier conversation about
who's lipsinging who's not?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Those are also that's great, very conspiracies.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
And I wouldn't mind two ever Levines.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I mean, she hasn't both.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, are they to Katy Perry's I'm just curious.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
So what's going on with Katy Perry?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And now are you?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Are you a Katy Perry fan? I do? I like her,
loves Katie. Well, okay, here's what I missed. The Vegas
show Me Too was great.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I so Katy Perry is sort of on a similar
trajectory where she was like so so big that I
was a hater, and I was like like I like
the songs, but I was like this girl, I can't
I can't deal with her personality. And then like now
people have like turned on her so much that I'm like, well,
come on.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Like an under she's an underdog now. And now she
just hasn't released a really great single in a while, okay,
And I think.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
She's counting that American Idol money.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Exactly what she cares. I mean, it's like kids are
probably covering herself what happened with Fani. Like when you
just like get into that zone where you're like, wait,
so if I just do American Idol, I make literally
twenty thousand times more money than if I release an
album and tour and have to be on.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
A get in the clothing line, Like seriously, once you're
on a show that big, then the brandy companies come
to you. But that's why I think it's good that
Miley only did the voice for a short amount of time.
I agree, And she said that was the reason. She said,
I'm a singer first, and the chair is fun. And
then of course now she's got her biggest hits.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
But you know she doesn't tour. I think you should
bring her out as your opener on your tour. I agree,
And she can do the national anthem and then you
can talk about everyone has to vote. That's right.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
That would be a really beautiful to.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Our platform, do each other's roots exactly. I love her,
I love it. I just think she's so legit and
I love that she as older people. National Trolly is
her actual godmother.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, that's really.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I mean, come on, wait, what about Dolly for President
of the Gay Island?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Well, so this is the dictator of the gay Island.
You know I would love.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
If she was dictator. Yeah, dictator. I'm tired of elections.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Just pick one until she goes, and then pick a doology.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Maybe Miley Miley.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
There's already a line of succession with Dolly and Miley.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Dolly Miley, and we can't get anyone else from the
Cyrus family unfortunately, because there's they can't be in the
White House. My mom is.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Banging the sister's old boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, so this is going to date this episode, but
I don't care, so I'm in.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
I'm sorry, whether it's true or not.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
And I don't care.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
You know, I like really have sort of gravitated away
from celebrity gossip in the recent past, and this got
me back in. I'm like, I am all in on
the Tyres family drama. Talk about something I want to
hear you talk about.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Even Miley had to make a statement going, I didn't
even know I met him as my mom's boyfriend. And
now my little sister, Noah, who's gough. Noah's gone, But I'm.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Just my friend. My friend Sarah said that she looks
like the moon emojis.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Well maybe she just wants to be very different from Miley. Yes,
And nothing's more different than having your mother steal your boyfriend,
which my mother was so filled with a box of wine,
I don't think she would have had the presence of
mind to do. And my mom only would want to
steal my boyfriend. If my boyfriend was like Don Rickles,
then my mom would probably go for it. But I

(55:17):
love I want to know if anybody walked in on anybody.
I want to know if Noah walked in on mom.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
And they had security, that got security at her wedding
because she didn't want some of the kids to be
there and then the other rumor was that Miley was
the one who hired all of this is allegedly good.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
For me, allegedly is good not for me.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
I don't have time for facts.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yea god busy often on this tangent.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Okay, wait, what if the QAnon that we are starting
is the Cyrus family drama like everyone I think they need.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
That is harmless because it doesn't end with like a
gay bashing society of people that want to ban books. No,
the Cyrus conspiracy theory, I think it is one we
should go with.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Okay, I think it's I think what your point to
is there is a lack of celebrity, of juicy celebrity gossips,
and that is why people are turning to conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Because none of it is interesting anymore. I don't care
about like, I don't know. Sometimes I'll click on a
page six thing and I'm like, I'm bored, Like I
don't everyone's like.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Too smart, But I'm still into Brittey's Instagram. That's because
she's a big delet Like she'll do something like she
got mad at Justin and then deleted.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
It and then she was another thing that was like,
by the way, I support.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah, Okay, do you guys ever get the impression she
just lives in that big house by herself.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Yes, yes, that's what.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I'm worried about. I think we should move in. I
think someone cares, not conservatorship never not saying that, and
we could like swaddle maybe.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
You being Britney's a pair. I'm saying to bring back
my life on the day as Britney's opa, right.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I mean that would be groundbreaking.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Yeah, the Nanny Nanny remake of the Nanny.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
We have thought of like approximately fifteen valid business idea
as well in the whole country, the government.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
So we've got a lot done.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
There's a lot, there's a lot being done. Wow, should
we do our final segment? I mean, I think it's time, Kathy,
this has been a true delight. We are a treaty.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Let me just brag about where I'm going the rest
of my day, very gay.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
First of all, I'm I'm a little over dressed for this.
I'm an adult chingaban a ridiculous pink dress because after
this I'm going to see his house for a birthday.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Okay, And this is what we actually have.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
On tonight's Sharon Stone's birthday. You heard me.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I'm not backing down.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I'm not back I'm going to confront you about something.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Please.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
You know, of course everyone knows about your viral dinner parties.
Oh the salon. Everyone everyone's attending. I look at those footings.
They say, where are the gay guys in this gay
queen's salon?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
We crop them out. The gays are allowed. There's many
gays there. I've had gay guests of honor, but.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
You know it was your dream gay guest of honor.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Oh gosh, beautiful question.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
I mean, okay, I know. Sorry, I keep an pull.
I'd probably have may.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Re Pete may Repete, okay, because he's he's been so
successful in crossing over and he can go on Fox
and hold his own, which is a talent.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Our party is not good at, including myself. Like, if
I went on Fox, I would explode. I'm actually going
on I'm the MSNBC tonight. I'm gonna quick hit, which
is which I like to stay a little neosy.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Sure, I mean, now, I want to talk for an
hour about your salons, but unfortunately we don't have well
just a little bit, yeah, just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I had one.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Okay, I had one for Monica Lewinsky. That was amazing.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
See.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I tend to have them for someone who's either in
town or someone who's been through like been through shit,
so like I had one for Mary Trump, I have
one for Stormy Daniels. I had one for Egene, Carol
And by the way, I'm on a daily text chain
with those three girls, the Stormy, Mary, Egen and myself.

(58:53):
And let me tell you, as someone who the FEDS
have actually come after, I really hope they don't have
a subpoena that text chain me. Don't go easy. We
do not go easy. We don't even call Trump and
we call him it. Wow. Yeah, we're hardcore.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
We need a Sex in the City reboot with the
four of you as literally yep, I mean that would
be better than that.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
And I may see a sing in my slots. She
does on CUE and she's always she loves first of all,
she can't stop singing.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Like I'm moving to her house after this.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
She just walks around the house singing either her songs
or somebody else's. She's writing an album right now with
and for her godmother Shaka Khan, whoa so I went
to a party there about a month ago and Shaka
was there and they were both singing with the choir.
You heard me?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
What the hell you heard me?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I'm gayer than you.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, I mean literally heard the salons.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yes, of course she's mandatory.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I mean to me, she is like, talk about mother,
I had.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Such a mother. And also Rosie's so legit, like I
love her TikTok because it's just her talking in the camera,
but she's just so compelling being herself, and she's so
smart and funny and interesting. So she's a great Salon guest.
And like, I had one for this guy, officer Mike,
Mike Gufenone. He was the guy on January sixth where
they pulled him into the crowd, tasted him until he

(01:00:19):
had a heart attack.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
They almost killed him, like right live.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
So I had one for him, and I invited Rosie
and I said, look, this guy's a former cop. He's
not going to be like mister Rainbow. Just keep that
in mind. Don't expect a typical categ effin party. So
Fanone comes over, I give him a drink and I go, Rosi,
O'donald's coming. I go, no, she's what's called a lesbian.
I know you've never met one, but they're real. And

(01:00:43):
she's a genuine lesbian, goes down on chicks constantly, really
does it, lives it. So just don't embarrass me and
call her like a bad name or something.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
And he was so funny. He's drink is shaking, goes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
I know a lesbian. Now you know two he and
Rosie got on. They were talking sports. She can talk straight,
like nobody talking us. Who deep dives deep dives into UFC. Wow,
And those two were like the romantic couple of the salon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Do you never know?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
You never knowle Let's do our final to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Like I can feel my bag feeling time to drain.
Time so grossby catheters, Unite Catheters, Unite Cathy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this
segment we pay amash is the grand straight tradition of
the radio shout out, and we shout out anything that
we are enjoying. Will go first person place thing idea.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
You're shouting out to your squad back home. You're you're saying,
I want to give a shout out to water. I
want to give a shout out to and we'll go first,
and we'll go first.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
And I have one. I have one to It's up
freak lusers and perverts. I want to give a huge
shout out to my very chill surgeon. This guy is
a dramatic actor. The way he walks into a room,
and I feel like I'm not in a real hospital,
but a set of a hospital. And I think that
is so la and so powerful. When he said that
his wife is in the industry, I said, of course
she is. It's la, isn't it. And you know the

(01:02:20):
way that he has rapport with me, the way that
he makes he's so calm. He's that type of guy
where you're like, I need you to like me. You
have performed surgery on me, and that's not good enough.
I need you to want.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
To hang out with camp.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I need you to care. So every time he enters,
I'm on, I'm being charming, I'm I'm smiling, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Don't know want to newer sitches.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I'm trying to get fewer stitches. I'm trying to get
better care.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
And I think it's actually kind of working, and he's
doing an incredible job. That being said, he did make
me wear a catheter all weekend long and I was
complaining about it, and it might have knocked me down
a few points, but sometimes you got to make your
needs known.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
He had a charming start.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
The charming she all right, I haven't what's up, Cheeka's
back home. I want to give a shout out to
the film Young Adult, written by Diablo Cody, starring Shirley's Throne. Yeah.
I was in my haunted East Hollywood airbnb two nights
ago and I said, I need something to get me
in the mood. I need something to remind me what
art is, what a performance is, what a woman in

(01:03:21):
charge looks like. And I said, I'm going to watch
Young Adult, one of the great film performances of the
last twenty years. Charlie's Thorne should have fifteen oscars. She
is one of our best. I think they should remake
every movie starring only her in all the roles, like
Eddie Murphy. I am so happy when she's on screen.
Diablo Cody is a generational talent and they need to
give her. She basically needs to be like Greta Gerwigg Like.

(01:03:42):
They need to give her all the opportunities trull yes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
And say you get to be in charge of this
movie from because and she's got the Academy Ward.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Right, she's got the Academy Award.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
She's got those goods.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Talk about someone who's got the goods. Like when she
bursts on the scene, you were like, oh, she could
be a one hit wonder would you not know? She
is a great screenwriter. She's so smart, she's so talented.
And Young Adult is a real underrated movie. I know
everyone likes it, but I'm actually ever seen it. Oh,
it's so good. Everyone should be watch it every year.
Patton Oswald is amazing in it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Such a good actor, such a good hum for decades.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
He's still funny.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
He's a comic that he's a really good actor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Have you seen Young Adult? No?

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
But I now I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I don't want to ruin everything anything Patton has like
a truly heartbreaking dramatic I'm so glad it is oscaroid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I love when comedians get to surprise you and get
a great performance.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Well, I will text, all right, I'm telling me that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Well that's my shout out. Okay, Well, Kathy, whenever you're ready.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Okay, I mentioned her once, but I got to give
the shout out to Egen Carrol because she is the
only person so far that has actually held Trump accountable
in a court of law. Now it's to her cases
where civil cases, no criminal. So shout out to James
and what she's doing in Alvin Bragg. But the fact
that Egen actually had Trump or his beneficiaries or factors,

(01:05:00):
I should say, give five million dollars an escrow. She
just won an eighty three point three million dollar judgment
against him. I want to think there's a time where
the State of New York actually seizes his buildings and
has to give that money to Egen Carrol. So shout
out to Egen for eighty years of age and sitting
in a courtroom and having to face him, and then

(01:05:21):
afterwards saying I was so scared of him all these years,
but when he was next to me in that courtroom,
I realized.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
He was nothing nothing juicy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
We'll talk about a true a pro like just poised
May years.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Old and I have got to be shallow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Looks great, looks great? Ran that New York Mad cover.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah yep, wow, Well, thank you so much for.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Having episode A thousand doves.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Oh my god, believe actually and we'll send you those
doves in the mail. Thank you. Some of them will
die on the way, Yeah, don't package on the lookout
for our I listened to straight Lab and I vote
T shirt. We're sending you up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
You'll be able to look out for it on my chest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
We'll see on the daily mail. Amazing. All right, Thank
you Kathy, Thanks you guys. Bye bye podcast and now
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Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Now get back to work