"Musical Theater" w/ Aaron Jackson

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Who do you who? This is a reminder for all
New York City residents that I, George Severis, am doing
a show on December third at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn,
New York, to celebrate the release of my debut comedy special.
It will be a George and Friends show with Sabrina Wu,
Mary Beth Brown and hopefully some other surprise guests. So

(00:36):
by your tickets now, I believe they are going fast.
You can find tickets at the Bellhouse website and in
my Instagram bio and I will see you December third
at the Bellhouse. And that's it for now. Enjoy the show.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Podcast starts now. Hello everyone, I love.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Australia, everyone, and welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
How are you feeling, George?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I am feeling honestly really great, really yeah, how so,
I just feel like I'm the perfect level of caffeinated.
I'm with my friends, I'm ready to party. Okay, she
is being I'm quoting Kristen Wigan Bridesmaids.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
There, okay, which I have seen.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Actually, yeah, but did you know that that's what I
was doing? Nope, it's when she's on the plane and
she takes a sleeping pill.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It sure iconic scene. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Next question, Well, I would like to say that my
back is completely covered in sweat, okay, and I have
to address it.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Even though my back is on the couch, no one
can see it, but you have to do my word
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
And previously we just recorded and I was on a
sweater and I said, I'll I have to take this
off because I want to sweat quite crazy. And then
I took the sweater off. Guess what still sweat like crazy?
And the weirdest part is that no one else's back
was covered in sweat. You're back completely dry, our past
guests back completely dry.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Not that you think is wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't know something clearly something is wrong. It's just
not right. I don't like to be singled out like that.
Do you have issues with don't even suggest that.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yes, I was not going to suggest that you sweat
a lot. I would net that would be way more rude.
What I'm about to ask, which is what is your
current relationship to fitting in?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Because this is an important question.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
This is a hugely important question. I really appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
And I think that I think everyone everyone has arenas
in their life where they care about fitting in and
arenas where they don't care about fitting in, and it's
actually like a really great orchak test of like what
your personality is like. They should do a sort of
uh astrology or like, you know, if you're like I'm
iantia or whatever, they should do that. But for the
specific question of where you need or don't need to

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fit in.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, Unfortunately, like most things in life, this does go
back to New York versus La.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I wish it didn't more than anyone. I wish it didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I was getting shaky actually in a sort of like
withdrawal type way, because I hadn't talked thought about New
York ber zil A and approximately forty five cents.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I don't want to bring it up. It's just like
in New York, there is something to fit into.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
There is community.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, you know, you can be like, oh, I'm dressing
like this type of person.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and I'm fishing.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
That brings you comfort.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think that does bring me comfort In La. Whenever
I'm to go to an event, I'm like, well, I
haven't seen a soul in roughly ten days.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, I have no idea where fashion has gone in
the last two years.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I haven't seen a store.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Certainly, I haven't read a magazine.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I haven't seen a person not wearing sweatpants.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I mean, I know what cars are in vogue.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I know what cars are in vogue. Ribbeans. Everyone wants
a ribbon.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So you're kind of the community is liberating to you.
We're letting for other people that enjoy the isolation and
complete lack of culture of Los Angeles. It's liberating to
be in a more individualist to be like, oh, I
can just be rockabilly and I will fit in just
as much as someone that looks preppy, and they will
fit in just as much as someone who is Billie Eilish.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, I think everyone is standing out in LA, but
because you have no other option, you're sort of guessing.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
But there's no standing out when everyone it's like the
scene in Sorry Annie Hall when they're driving in LA
and each each house is a different style, if you
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's like one of
them is like Spanish, one of them is colonial, and
all the houses just are One of them has Greek columns,
but they're all in a row and none of them
fit in, but also none of them stick out. It

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just is like a diverse tableau.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
That feeling when the tableau is diverse.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Feeling the tableau's diverse. In the Woody Allen film.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
What's your relationship with standing out or fitting in? Right now?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
You know, I do think I'm more comfortable standing out
as I get older, But I actually feel this way
more in terms of like my views and opinions.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh yeah, you want to go edgy.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I it's not even that I want to go edgy
wants to go ed you know, it's sometimes it's the opposite.
Sometimes I'll see people having like a really intense conversation
and I'll be like, what you guys are saying doesn't matter.
I think it's actually cool to have zero opinion about
like whether this new album is good or not, and
you guys are actually being complete losers and idiots and
you should honestly start talking about healthcare, housing, these things

(05:23):
that are actually But then, but then also also on
the other side of things, as you're saying, I do
sometimes enjoy I think that then gives me more permission
to be edgy when I want to, because I'm like,
I'm sitting this one out. I'm sitting this one out.
I'm sitting this one out. Oh what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Here you go?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Can't wait. I can't wait to see what you pull.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Whether it's okay to reference Andy Hall on a podcast,
My answer is yes.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
So you were silent when you know Taylor Swift released
her newest album, Don't Care, so that you could then
talk about any Hall and the diverse tablo of houses.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
But I do think in terms of visually, I don't
I'm not really in a place where I need to
be standing out or wearing like a crazy you know,
neon green blazer. But I think intellectually, I'm like, after
all these years of conformity, I'm finally ready to express
an opinion.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Sure, I think standing out.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's interesting that you say standing out when it's like
I just was sweaty, Like I just had a sweaty bag.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You were the one who brought it into standing out
because you were like, we were all here. Because what
I noticed in your story is that rather than being
uncomfortable with just the act of sweating, don't do that.
It made you uncomfortable. What is you literally were like
you weren't sweaty, Our guest wasn't sweaty. What made you
uncomfortable was that you were the only one who was sweaty.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, because I'm worried to have a medical issue because
everyone else is completely unsweaty.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm sort of like, what what pills are you taking to?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You're comparing yourself in order to like in a healthway,
in a health way, and it's sort of self diagnosis
web md.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It has nothing to do with you wanting to fit in.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm googling excessive sweat. No one else has room with
multiple people, only one with a sweat on back, only
on back.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Speaking of excessive sweat, our guests showed up in lingerie today.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Our guest showed up in literally X rated sex store
between style lingerie.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Big xes on his nipples.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
On snipples, duct tape, taping his cock fully tucked, fully tucked,
but bottomless.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Neude illusion except it's not an illusion because it's nude.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
But but skin poor, less, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Sure, unmakeuped, raw skin, completely living as you.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
So please welcome our friend, who you can see off Broadway,
no fence. In the play Messy White Gays, written by
past guest Drew Droghi Aaron Jackson.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Hey, I have so much to say please. First of all,
I was wearing a jacket a shirt and tanked off
and hand. No, no, you're wearing but the jacket was
off the shoulder because because and I really want to
get into this, I was sweating a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh so at which point, so now I'm the odd
mine out.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, well, no, okay, I have so much to say
about the sweat that I used to never sweat, like
it could actually exercise and not sweat. Same And then
somewhere around thirty five or something somewhere around COVID, I'm
Perry Fuzzle. I just started sweating and it's gotten it's
gotten crazy so much. So to talk about the play,

(08:40):
I've been we we we were in previews and I
had a different costume, and I wore a gray tank top.
And by the end of the play, because its kind
of physical, I would be completely the back and the
front completely sweat through. Discuss like completely sweat sweat through.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, he's also through. Is it less visible on a white.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Tank yes, ch less visible? And and and also the
tank top was really tight, so we just like cling.
So I told the costumers, like, I want a new costume.
I look like a fucking hog. Up here and none
of the others are sweating, and they're like, no, it's
kind of fun because like the place kookie, and they're
like I look cooked out and like and I'm like,
but I'm the only one. I'm hog sweat and these

(09:23):
oeole ready to shoot their Vogue. So I ready to
shoot their Vogue, ready to shoot their vote.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Phrase just dropped. Iowa Debris ready to shoot her girl.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
She had been in Vogue and now she's a cover girl.
That's fucking crazy. God bless, God bless. You can catch
her on Broadway and then you can cut her on
not off honey, right on top of.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Broadway, right there.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
But yeah, I sweat a lot now.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Interesting and has a doctor sort of checked you out?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Or yeah, they're like, damn Western medicine.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Fine, hasn't set you know, an acupuncturist.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, no, the doctors all they they all say, am
hot Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
They say they're they're down, they say yeah, yeah, that'll
be five hundred million dollars.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know, folks talk about healthcare.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Seriously, It's time we talk about it. I did notice
that during your big.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Play, which we went to last night. We want to say,
is it's fresh in our minds. Yes, Usually we don't
really allow guests to promote a project, but this time,
because we just saw it, it actually coincides that we
would talk about any Yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Were together hours ago.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
We were together, we went to the play.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I went to sleep and I was looking at you,
and I'm awake and I'm seeing you again.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm kind of like, I hope we find things to
talk about.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, because I'm like, we pretty much covered a lot
of money.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
That was all gossip. We can't say anything, I know,
you know, we can say one thing.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I guess who we saw at dinner we.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Went to and sitting at the table next to us.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Was James Cordon.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I said, God only in New yorkton.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Who you know? I have to say? So, he's in
the currently on Broadway in the Yasmina race of play art.
Every review I've read says the play is bad, but
he's the highlight.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, I didn't see that play. He wanted Tony four
before he got the show, his talk show, and everyone
was like it was it was all rayed across the board.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's one of the toughest things to admit to ourselves
is that James Corden is really talented.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
He's a good actor.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, he's actually and you know, for no no disrespect
to everyone who's ever been yelled at him, yelled at
by him. But he didn't yell a single waiter last night.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, didn't yell at a single waiter, didn't union.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Didn't throw anything.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
He even seemed calm. I would dare to see.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Job seemed inviting. Kept kept looking at us, waving us.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Over, licking his lips.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Because saying, hay, sweet things, why don't you come over here?
Got a couple extra seats, and I said, he is
much nicer, so much nice.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Tabloids are set, they're discussed, they lie, they tear anyone
apart if they were successful, so messed up.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And British they just hate Brits.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
They hate Brett so messed up.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'm I mean, I'm so tempted to tell our famous
James Corden story that we heard third hand.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
We have a famous James Cordon Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I feel like it's so third hand. Can we get
it's okay.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
To tell it?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I have no idea who the story is.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay, I will tell it quickly so that if we
end up cutting it, it's okay, and it won't cut
it into the episode. Ready, love, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I had an amazing thing to say about your
but hey, first we're on James Cordon.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
We'll come back.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, friend of a friend was in i'll say it,
first class on an airplane. Oh, it must be nice.
James Corden was on that flight. He gets on a seat,
there's a woman with a baby next to him. The
baby's crying the whole time. Uh, and my friend is like, oh,
our friends. Like I expected James Cordon to like be

(12:42):
a dick about it because he sort of has a
reputation whatever, But it turns out he is fine about it.
He's just like sort of staring at a screen and
like not and ignoring the baby. Whatever flight is, you know,
six seven hours whatever. Plane lands, The woman with the
baby is holding the baby, gets up, tries to get
the suitcase. Turns to James Cordon. Was James, can you
help out? It was his baby? So he was ignoring

(13:05):
his baby and then not helping with the suitcase.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
God, yeah, I forgot he was.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
A dad me too, so did he. The baby wasn't
out last night.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
That wasn't out last night. No, he was having a
night with the boys.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now we have to Hardhivoto a different topic in case
we cut that.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
So what we're okay?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
So, Aaron, this was in response to the sweating on stage.
You know, I did notice you jump around on the
furniture quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah. Do you ever fall?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
No? I haven't falled. But okay, they're like, there's blood
in this play except to clean the stage. And after
a matinee they cleaned the stage and sometimes they cleaned
the rug and the rug hasn't dried fully, so it's
extremely wet. So we all do slip a bunch when
that happened.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So which night of the week is the slippy night.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
It'd be Saturday night and Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
So okay, slip roll up Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and Sunday slippy night, you remember, because often the.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Cast is slipping the slip bay slippe. I think they
might stop washing the rug in the matinee because of it.
I think they should lub it up, have some budes
the night they should night where it's just all and
everyone's constantly falling on the rocky horror, they just throw the.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Play is very much like Rocky Horror, exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Like it in fact, in most ways, do.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
You find that, and I'm sorry to ask this, do
you find that everyone is constantly making references to Nicole
Scherzinger because you end the play with blood?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yes, but it's extremely vogue. Okay, everyone you don't plays
in blood? Yeah, because it's that a Vida and blood director.
There's another one too. Anyway, it's in vogue cynically.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Do you think it's to have an instagramble moment?

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I think this was always in the play before that
half before.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
The Jamie Lloyd actually copied.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Got a copy of jokey script.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Jamie Lloyd, would you say is reheating Drew Jersis.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I've been saying that for a decade. It's yeah, but yeah,
I guess it's kind of instagrammable. I don't know. God,
isn't it sick?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
It's disgusting?

Speaker 4 (15:09):
And why does everyone want a film curtain call in
the first place? Well?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I struggle with this because the thing is, I of
course agree with you that it's ridiculous to post, you know, but.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
People call it play wants you to.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
And it's also like and when you're there because the
thing is I do, like I hate myself for doing it,
but I do do it because you want to just
be like you have all this excess energy from being
a passive audience member and being excited art and art
and Europe, and you want to like be like look
and it's all you can do.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, it's tough. You know. You have a healthy relationship
with Instagram.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Do I?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I think so?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh you're a post in bulge and cock left and right.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's healthy. That's that's what it's for. That's what it's for.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Bulge and cock. Yeah. I don't like it, but I
am addicted to it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah. Interesting? Is that thrilling? Well?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
But I think I do Berseli.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Is deeply interesting and relevant to our community.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
But yeah, I turned on to post too much. But
I do stories.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
But I do stories.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
I do stories.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I do stories.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
This is like Patti Lapoone being interviewed. I do stories.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Who I also saw at Barson Trolie once. Oh wait,
oh my god, this is crazy? What this is crazy.
I was on the train the other day, the subway
train going downtown, and I had a because I was hot,
a jacket but like off my shoulder, I was in
my and so it was on the seat next to
me a little bit. So then this hand appears when

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we get out of stop and moves my jacket. I
have my headphones in, you know, and I said, oh
my god, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I look up.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's actually quite Actually Patty Lapone, oh up, and she goes, no,
I just dodn't want to sit on your beautiful jacket.
It was not beautiful jacket. And then she sat down.
I took out my headphones and I just eaves dropped
on her the whole train ride. Well, she say, well,
I know she didn't classically say which This is so Patty,
the one I don't understand my movie stars want to
do Broadway.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
That is so classic Patti Lapone in the sense that
there literally is an answer to that, and she knows it,
and yet she just had I assume she asked that
question on every phone call and has for fifty years. Yeah,
just like there's no evolution.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
The man she was with, who I did not recognize,
but he's probably, you know, I don't know, an olak
Arc but he was like, he was like, well, I
think he just did a silly movie, so now he
wants to do a serious play. I love him? Why movie?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Wow, that was pretty big for me. No, that's huge.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
So what has it been like being a theater actor,
being a being a theater actress?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Theater actress. You can't be an actor on stage. It's fun.
I am having fun. I went to a shamed to say,
I like, I went to a conservatory for college.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right, what always freaks me out when you say this?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah. I then moved to New York to be like
a stage actor, but then got kind of like burnt
out by it because I've been doing my entire.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Life and you originated Spring Awakening.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
No, but literally all my friends were in there for real,
Like that's when I moved here, and everybody was in that,
and so I was like going and watching them and
being like having envy and bizarre. You know, it's just
like this is so bizarre. And then got into improvisational
comedy never forget.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
And you finally decided to get serious and get I
need my childish dreams of being a theater actor behind
and get real about taking improv to a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Time to be practical.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's time to be practically. Obama's president.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes, George W. Bush was when I first ordered.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Bush's president, as I was saying, it's time to do improv.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, it's time. Wow, only Obama was Oh No, I
started in eight So Obama was was campaign.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
You were inspired by his message to do him hope,
hope and change, no real plans behind it. I think
that's actually Obama. You know, he's not quite respected enough
for this. He really had an improv spirit to his
campaigning and his presidency. It was kind of like, let's
see what.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yes and Biden into gay marriage?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yes, exactly, remember, yes, I remember.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Those are the days. What else?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
No, I know, It's like, here's the thing. This is
what's so complicated? What is that? Like? Maybe it's the
fear of not wanting to stand out.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, sometimes I'm like wanting to say something, but I'm like,
this feels like it's gonna go wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
But here's here's wrong. Finding out that you.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Were in theater school, yeah, it's like it's if I
found out you were in the military.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm like, yeah, oh oh God.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Like I'm like I didn't know like the trauma you
were dealing with, right, And like I've been sort of
treating you normal, like.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I've like like a fucking comedia.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
A fall to you and I don't realize that, like
you're dealing with stuff that I can't even imagine. You
were like full shock, yes, and I'm just like joking around,
like I'm like, whoa, yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I think when I started doing improv, people were like,
why are you so good? And it's like it's called
stage presence starling, Like I know, I know on stage
people were and then I taught people would literally turn
their back to the audience and whisper. I'm like, so
you're gonna have to.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
You're literally describing me, that's me, That's how they are.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Show up, So you do have to like be on stage.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Whenever anyone's like cheat out, I'm like, well, I'm talking
to them and I'm telling.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Us secret whisper. It's like, well, honey.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I've always wondered that about improv, and of course all
my love to the art form, but it's like course
nothing but love to learn the the to learn the
skill of improvisation outside the context of either acting, like acting, writing, enunciating,
like story structure, like the improv is something that you

(20:58):
already have a foundation, and then you do want top
of that. Like it's almost like being like okay, I'm
teaching an English class and it's all that punctuation. But
everyone's illiterate, right, you know what I mean? Yeah, like
we can do amazing things with commas and periods. Yeah,
if you first learn how to write.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
And that is the like I hate actors about. But
when they would be an improv class, you like thank
god because they literally would be like, oh, well, like
I'll play a character and the other these people are
like yeah, yeah, It's like God, this idiot isn't here.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
This is so interesting because whenever there was an actor
and an impro I'd be like, I'm going to commit murder.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like this is like the worst thing
I've ever seen. But they would like they would come in,
they come in with like energy.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
That's true. It's like, that's true.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
You have to like beg people again, like hey give
them achelle kids.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Well, also, an actor wants to utilize improv to a
different end, whereas an improvisor is very Yes, an improviser
is very like art for art's sake.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, it's very punk.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, totally, nothing more punk than paying twelve hundred.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Dollars yeah to play, to play, Let's just play.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Let's just so when you.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Girls, You actors go backstage after the big show? Yeah,
does it get competitive?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Does it get for what?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah? Are you?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Are you who did well that night? Like, fuck, he's
gonna get more lines next week. They're gonna give him
some of my lines because he ate somebody got cut.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
We all take a shower and we go home.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Oh, like, well it's.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Commut penetration, penetration, Yeah, full full of penetration.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Nice. Does you find that brings you closer together?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Totally makes the work that much more deep?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
I can tell that much deeper.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
So do you want to sort of say I don't
know why I'm being so Jimmy fallon today, But do
you want to say what the play is about?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
You make me saying, yeah, we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
A wheel of impressions, Mariah, that was my That's a
perfect note.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Jea for Coolidge, hot.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Poor thing, hot dog. You know, wait, would you ask
what is the play about? What's the play about? Okay,
So there's this Alfred Hitchcock movie rope based on these
two gay guys from the twenties that were real. Oh
I did not le Leopold and Kate and Leopold leopol

(23:30):
Hugh Jackman anyway, these two guys in the twenties killed
someone just to see if they could get away with it,
and they did not. And then the movie Rope is
based on them, and it's these two guys kill one
of their classmates who they think is like inferior, like intellectually,
and they hide him in like a chest, and then

(23:50):
they have people over for dinner party, you know, kind
of see if they can get away with it. So
ours is like sort of a riff on that two
gay guys will their threttle mate. And then but ours
is on accident. We well, we don't kill him on accident,
but then we throw a brush by accident, and so
we hide him in a Jonathan Adrod cadenza and then
Calamity and hilarity and so you.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
It opens with you killing the third in the food.
I do love the James Kasati Moyer, Yes, you and
James Patimury, who people might know from slave Play. Ye,
Sony nominee or oh.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
God, I forgot I just found out he was in
a DC comic movie and he dies on screen, black black,
Adam black at Oh that sound sure, James? Is that
wrong with the rock?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, see Okay everybody stream it, but he dies on screen.
I really want to watch watch my baby die.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
He is and can I just say he is hot?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
He's very hot. People are in my DM, he's kind
of classically hot. They'll be like, good job, James is
so hot, and I always just reply, what about me?
Don't get in his DM's baggot.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, Well, do you think he's getting dms that are
like congrats Aaron.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Is so hot?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
No, not at all, he's DMS. You're hot, get sick.
Don't tell me someone else is hot. No, that's that's
my fitting.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Person playing your love intrip Hello. It's also it's like
the implication as well, like you think, yeah, like congrats
on being in a fictional environment where you.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Could where you could possibly score James honey, please you
wish he doesn't. I really tell me I'm hot.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Please get in rd MS and say, oh my god,
congrats Aaron Aaron.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, I say, you guys are so funny, Aaron's hot, sick, disgusting,
fucking break.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I actually wouldn't mind if someone said you're funny and
Aaron's hot. I would sort of take that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I was like, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I wouldn't wait till you read it. It's such a wow,
high clown rotten hell.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I do like I didn't know that this was part
of rope, because I don't think I've seen rope since
I was like a teen. But I I like the
idea that you murder him because he is basic. Yeah,
you murder him. What is the word I'm looking for?
Because he is banal?

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yes? Like so one of the lines that he's so
fucking medium about everything.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yes, which is I do sometimes wish I could murder
people who are banal.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Name names.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
He is so medium about everything. And then the night before,
while you guys were all on drugs and alcohol, you
invited everyone over for brunch. Yes, And so this brunch
occurs while a dead body is just sitting inside a
Jonathan Adler credenza.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
That's correct, that's the hook.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
See, he did see it. He was you thought he
was gonna say something wrong.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Huh. He was there last night. But I'm playing like
I'm like the straight man in it, which is is
very rare for me.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
I'm not like the comic.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You're not the relief everyone get Yeah, everyone has funny everyone,
but you're not the single comic relief right, which.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Which is is a fun muscle distratch theater school.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Were you scared to be like fuck fuck but fuck
need to be funnier?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
No? No, I was like excited to get offered that
because Pete Ziyas, isn't it Pete's eyes plays this character Thacker,
who is I would say the comic Everyone is funny,
but he is like the funny one.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
He's the Jack McFarlane like I guess is like he's
he's like there to be funny.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Every one of his lines is a joke, you know,
and he's amazing in it. He's so funny. It's such
a it's such a great performance. But like I I
when I would like do play as, that was always
the part I would get, you know, and I love
doing that. But I was like, oh, this is kind
of fun. I get to be like the Steakes, you know.
And I'm never casts as a love interest like my
god interest. I'm a love interest that killed somebody.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It's interesting you think of yourself as a love interest
and the protagonist who has a love interest. Totally, you
guys are equally get equal.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
We start and we never leave stage and yet you think,
I mean yourself is just I'm the lead.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You have the first line in the play? Is that hard? No?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I love it?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Get me up there?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do you ever go? Fun? Fuck? I forgot.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
There are times if it.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Opening you're just like.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Ah, right, did we kill him?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Take it from the top.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
No, But it is like it is sort of like
a weird because you do it eight times a week.
It's just weird, Like I don't know what I'm trying
to say, Like there's some sort of like Greek spician
like you're like, here we go again, and then you're
in the middle of it and you're like where am I?
When am I? I don't know? But it's kind of fun. Yeah,
it's like a strange exercise.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It's like it's like bizarre, We're being amazing. Interviewer Sam
hates it. You can see it in my eyes. I'm
sort of like, who are you?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
No, we're asking you, like we're asking you straightforward questions
and then you're answering them and we're.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Like, okay, I was like expecting, like like I thought
we were gonna like sort of Joe Firestone him. No.
Episode is so funny.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Okay, now that now lets Joe firestone him.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, so here's what I want to know. So okay, like, like,
any feuds on set? Am I set? I mean stage?
Did you just call the stage a set?

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yes, it's me say lights, camera action right before we start.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You already asked that. I didn't ask about feuds. I said,
who's jealous?

Speaker 4 (29:33):
There's oh who's jealous? There's no feuds. I wish there
were feuds.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Do you want to start one?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Make something up?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, a feud. I mean I would start a feud
with Drew Jogi, so I could. I could. I could
have all the jokes, not not even more all all.
So it's like I'm have.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Everyone else just be like really blank and blank.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And just every single one of their lines is setting
me up.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Did you ever find did you ever find it interesting?
There was no choreo, no dancing.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, I they're extremely interesting. I say why isn't there singing?
Because I was watching and I was like, this is
so interesting that there's no dancing. I think I not
to be really good. I think one of the producers
because you know that like plague that happened where like
there was always a curtain clas COVID. It was called COVID,
It's called COVID.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Mascot.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Omikron. I think the producers at one point wanted to
do one of those, like they come out a curtain
cal and dance and we were all like, no, that
happened like for almost like not like Angels in America.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Angels in America. They're coming out during the Makarana at the.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
End, like at the end of Shrek there's a big
musical number for no reason.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Totally, And also I always found that so exhausting because
you just watched the play. It also always, if it's
a musical, always ends with the song and then they're like,
we're coming out again and we're singing again. You're like again,
well again?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Are they doing it for socials? Damn? It's disgusting what
people do for socials that, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I think there should be like a reality show or
something about the people that do the socials for Broadway.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Plays starring you know, a little Reese Havoc Austin spirerou
Do you know this person? No, great, little, great little
person that runs around town drag queen, but does does
this oh Mary, yes?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Extremely good? The dross yes, oh, Mary, and I think
liberation Prince faga.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
The other one, John Proctor is the villains.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
The villain, yes, but I and again I don't know
this person, so this is not about him them him him.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
He proudly he him, Oh, proudly. Great to be whatever
you want. That's amazing, Yeah, shout out. Wait, just so
everyone listening at home, we're all wearing blue, that's right,
he said, No, we're going boy boys wear blue. Okay, sorry,

(31:50):
talk about but your.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Blue is like LGBTQ blue.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's well, it's silk. We're wearing three different materials. We're
wearing three different materials, but they're all blue. It's literally
like podcasting at the end of the world. Outside everyone
has died. It's post apocalyptic and I'm like, okay, blue materials.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Sure it's again.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
There should be a reality show for the people who
do social media for John Rockers and villain. What else?
What else?

Speaker 4 (32:18):
What else?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
My eyes start bleeding. I'm foaming at the mouth. You know,
there's a zombie apocalypse outside. Trump is president and the
zombies are hot.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
And oh my god, music should do because they always
do hot vampires, they should do hot zombies. Well that
would be tough because can't they just come back and
be hot? Why do I have to be ugly?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I feel like it's difficult to be hot while also
being undead, like you have to you can't be charming.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
As vampires undead.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, the vampire has a personality zombies literally zombie esque
like that.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
But maybe that's what am I trying to say stereotype.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
So you're saying that this is interesting, Now, this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Actually, I think I've maybe talked about this once before.
When I was in college, there was this this is
so scary. There was this like post stock or something.
I'm not making this up. This was in the department
of like just gender studies, feminist studies. Oh my god,
forget this. I swear to god this is true. Her
research was on dead bodies and how they are treated

(33:23):
as passive but in fact they have agency. So she
was using like feminist theory and uh, you know, queer
theory to argue in like on behalf of dead bodies.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
She jumped the shark.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
She fully jumped the shark. It is I remember being like, oh,
academia has maybe two decades left, Like this is this
is like what Republicans think is happening.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
It is sometimes that you are. You're thinking too hard.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, you could just think a little. You're getting a
little bit lost. You're thinking too hard to watch TV.
You're thinking too hard and also not thinking enough. Like
you're you're fully not aware of your surroundings. Yes, there's
a fire happening all around you, and you're at your
desk being like as food co said.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, anyway, I recently looked at that woman on LinkedIn
and she works at like a corporate consultancy gave up
at academia. Wow, well, maybe she's consulting on how to
be more welcoming dead people in the workplace.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, maybe she's consulting at Big mor Big More, Big
Big More.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
That'd be nice. Questions about the play.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
You have to talk about the play. We talked a
lot about them.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
We talked a lot about the play.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
We'll see it by Okay, see.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
A girl, go seee a girl, Go see a girl.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
See in your mind.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
That should be the tagline if I did social media
for mess messy, way go see a Actually, that actually
would be like a great I have a marketing tip too.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Okay, great, Uh, you team up with like a touring company,
like a tourist company. Okay, and you'd go you go
around Hell's Kitchen.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
For all references.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
There's a lot of there's a lot of Hell's Kitchen references.
These guys, I think they're Hell's Kitchen gates. They're not
like Williamsburg gays. They're not Bushwick gays their health kitchen games.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
And certainly not Ridgewood gays.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Not even close opposite of Ridgewood Gates.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
They're so different.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
There's like almost a new type of species. Like when
there's a ridge with gay versus a health kitchen gay,
you're sort of like, these couldn't be further.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
And these are even hyper wealthy Heal's Kitchen gays. Yeah,
that's even that.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That was an interesting element of it too.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I have another so I talk about the plague.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
No, no, no, I actually think I'm really I like
that you're giving suggestions, and I actually have a few
notes as well. We have a few notes. So I
think I'm just an actress in terms of mesty white gays.
Sounds kind of exclusionary. Potentially you could do like messy
intersectional LGBTQ plus individuals. Okay, Yeah, and I would even

(35:55):
go so far as say messy limits you as well. Sure,
so it could be like diverse lgbt Q plus folks
of all stripes. Maybe that could be an interesting title
all stripe.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I think.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I think just to shorten it, yeah, Americans. Yes, that's
a really good Americans.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
And I would even say, like to carry us the.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Americans, this is just Americans.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
And maybe to add a positive spin on it, think
of something really something that that people associate with positivity,
maybe like angels, and you could maybe call it angels
in Americans, Angels in Americans. And so I would say
that's that's good something and then.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Get two plays.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Make I would say make.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
It because I was like, okay, now what and then
what happens?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Like to me, the end, it was just the beginning,
and I was like, what if just as an exercise
we start there, let's start there.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
It's just like where we go there, just that's an exercise.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I just want to know, let's do it tonight. When
I go, do it tonight and provides a second place
where we ended.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
And then I think just to kind of piggyback off
with Sam SLID's piggy So this is the entire cast
is actually all men. I think we could maybe make
it half men half women. And then I thought your
performance was great, But what if it was someone like
Andrew Garfield, like a like you know, a big name

(37:23):
that the people, you know, people are flying in from
all over going to play.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
James Cordon, James, Hello, he's already there.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Maybe that's why he was at the restaurant last night.
Maybe he was like sniffing at my game. He's like,
I hope they spot me and cast me because you
wrote and cast it. I believe I wrote.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, so Angels and Americans arts, Andrew Garfield, James Cordon.
And then I think for the female parts, we got
to go. We have to get the youth interested. So
I'm thinking like Sabrina Carpenter, Sydney, Sydney, and that.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Should course.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And they're the chorus, and they're the chorus, and then
there's a dance, and.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Then there's a dance. I had a pitch too, I
just couldn't help. But notice there was a corpse played
by a doll.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yes, that could have been and that could have been
a corpse.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Did you guys consult with Actors Equity about that?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Every day we consulted. We actually never rehearsed because speaking
of corpse, right, and he could have been a zombie.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
That's a hot zombies and that woman that post talk
that I was talking about could probably do a great
job as a dramater, walking you guys through how to
respect the corpse totally because it seemed like you were
not being very respectful.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Wait, okay, there are two corpses. There's like an understudy
corpse for real, and one of them is the one
we always use, and it used to be like a
sex doll, but they made it because it was too heavy,
but it has this like very silicone face. But then
when they made the other one, like the backup one,
they couldn't get that sex doll face again, and so
it's just like a mannequin's head. But she's like beat

(39:05):
Like god, it's just mascara, had like pouty lips and
like the bangs are very like sweepy tucked in and
it's like, oh, look at heard though, is.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
That ever distracting?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Well, he's like kind of face down the whole time,
except that the at the end, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, So it's a little gag just for you guys.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
It's a little gag for the girls.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
So, speaking of gagging the girls, another suggestion I had is,
you know, right now, it's a play, so it's on
stage and you'll have to go there and see it
in person. What if it was in order for more
people to be able to see it, like a mini series,
streaming mini streaming wind And what if it was set
in like Philly. Yeah, oh my god, the murder could

(39:50):
be instead of a gay guy, like a young girl totally,
and she could be solving the murder and they're all
doing accent, and they're all doing accent, and her name
is something really random like mirror mayor.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
So mean to make a British person say the name
Mary Philadelphia a lot? Ma ma, it's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Do you like our pitches?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I'm implementing them all tonight.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Good do you ever? Oh my god, you should get
in a big fight with Drew.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
First of all, you're gonna start the start and then
to get like to be like, get back at him
from the many hurtful things. He will say yes because
he's got them locked and loaded.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Trust she's got opinions.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
So then you should do the whole play British.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, do the whole British.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Wait, can I tell Drew drogis story please? Because he
he does have a lot of opinions. He's not that's weird.
He's not he's not medium as his.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh totally, well, that's what we all love about it.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
No, exactly one time when we were doing this last summer,
somehow Lucille Ball came up and he's like, God, don't
get me started on that count, like Lucille do you
know he just hates sir?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh God, that's good, that's really good.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
And then we were posing for like for publicity pictures
for this. The photographer kept going like, give me something,
like let's do a wacky one like think Lucille Ball,
and Drew is like, see him physically painting.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
So do we know why he doesn't like Lucy?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
You know, he's read a bunch of things. He's like
she was actually mean or whatever. I don't know, but
I don't even care. I a woman he's never met
who's beloved, Well, it hates her.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
The idea that Lucille Ball would not have been mean,
like to like wake up. The whole thing is like
women didn't have power at that time. There was no
such thing as like a woman producing her own sitcom
and she did it. Can you imagine how many people
she had to murder to make that happen.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
You guys should watch this Aaron Sorkin film.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Can I tell you something I couldn't get through it?

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yeah, no offense to all involved.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
No, it was one of the worst films.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
I just thought, it's so like to be you know,
and it's like, funny people aren't always funny. It's it's
a movie about one of the funniest people and it's
not a joke in it.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I was shocked. I was shocked. And how bad it
was for Nicole.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
She was not married for an ask her, Yeah, that's okay. Yeah,
she's doing okay.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well I didn't really, she's getting divorced being the Ricardo's remember.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I remember it came out.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Sure, we'll watch it tonight.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I watch it.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
It's really bad.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I have to Mommy.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I hate when you guys all watch movies.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Sorry, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Sometimes if a movie is bad, you should just be like,
this one's not coming out.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Oh god, I know, But think of all the people
that worked so hard on.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I mean, I am.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
What else do we talk about?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Should we do it for a segment got the play.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I was enjoying making suggestions.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well, I think we've suggested a lot. I think it
would just take a while to implement all that. Yeah,
I think when the play is in four hours?

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah, dude, rehearsals.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Can I just say, if Drew is listening, I really
like I really like folks he's not. I really look
up to Drew. I'm like, I love what are It's like?
I just I find he's such a treasure in our community,
and I I know there are other people that also
right and starting plays. I'm not saying he's the only one,

(43:22):
but there is something the way he manages to I'm
not familiar.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't know that one.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I don't know. Is that something when you know from
acting school?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah, school school. There's somebody who know from acting school.
Oh cool, they were really bad.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I've heard they're a real cunt.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Totally.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
He's really mean to everyone they meet and universally hated.
The university Aboard has has a kind of a rapper
mentality of, you know, bursting into every room and making
it all about themselves.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
A rapper, A rapper, Yes, what are you talking?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Do? They usually burst into rooms you're talking about maybe
the kool Aid man.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I'd be like, sure, that's what the coolid.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, he says it's like a rap.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
When you say someone has a rappers, that means they're
like larger than life and.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
They're bursting into rooms.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Sorry, Han, you cancel.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
That makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Do you not think of rappers as being like.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
George, you're digging your heels in in a way that's
so say no, it's not insane. One time I saw
a cupcake the rapper.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Okay, that's not what I mean when I say a rapper,
I mean a male wrapper.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You don't think I love a cupcakes doesn't rap? You
think upad doesn't wrap. You think she's a sing you
think she's a pop girl because oh she's a woman.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
She's a woman that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Oh but she was really late for her show one time,
and she did she came, I want to say, like
over an hour, and she goes, sorry, I couldn't find
my panties, and then started.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I think I was at that show. Yeah it was
that it was in Brooklyn, Yes, yes, it was in
like twenty sixty or something something like that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yes, yeaheah, I was.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
And then you know what she did. She pressed play,
I'm not going to press play on the album and
wrapped over it. It was it wasn't like a backing track.
It was fully just the album on Spotifyny, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
It was incredible.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
I forgot her favorite and her band. But yeah, Drew's
great with the rapper rapper vibe and Drew. I've always
said total, So what do you think? So should we

(45:42):
don't do our first segment? Oh?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Right, I think we should so air our first segment,
as you know, is called straight shooters, where we ask
you this thing or this other thing, and the only
rules you can't ask any fall up questions yes or
we'll kill your ass.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
The Heritage Foundation or the Chair of Pantsuit Nation.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Chairuff can't suit, Asia, City that Never sleeps, or a
pity to have never skeatd the pity.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Lather, rinse, repeat, control all, delete, or that poem is oblique, oblique.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
I'm always in the last one.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
A seven minute standing oh, or a heaven sent manly Ho.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, heaven is that Manley Ho of course?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Decor that's Ghosh or Jador Juliette Binoche.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Decor that's Coche attending a baby shower presenting a lady
a flower baby shower.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh, hip hip, hooray, or beep beep he's.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Gayep, he's gay.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Corporations are people or fornication is evil.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Corporations are people who We really brought our a game
to that one.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
That was really good. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I actually did that at this coffee shop where they
gave me the George Severas branded coffee.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
You did what my straight Shooters coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Wow, you're really inspired by my coffee.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I was really inspired by your brand coffee.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Say this is too busy visually, it's like he wants
to fix I don't know if you can tell.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Tell you about like he's a baby.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
He just wants to fix the world to do huh,
he needs a nap. Somebody has creative direction? Can do
you see what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
This is I'm pointing out it to go coffee cup
for anyone listening and apology. It says, iHeart GC fine,
The I G C are made to look like that
turnover like the like the train station.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Tick.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Then there's a heart fine with the heart has a
pulse pulse line line on it, which to me is scary.
And then there's a stops a humanoid stop sign with
angel making peace making a piece sign with a halo.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
And what is GC even? Is that the coffee Grand coffee?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Then we have the New York skyline and heartbeat heartbeats
here It's like where message are we sending?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Heart beat is negative? Yet that to me, I guess
that feels like a hospital. Also the angel yea halo,
and the horror. I feel death.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I feel death.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I'm gonna do the Guardian Angel. I don't feel like
I want a cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
It's giving death.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Tim Guns, designer of designers.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
What will Nina say?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Designers? Can I ask you to gether around?

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Please?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
This is giving death.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Your cup is giving death.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
I think Jimmy fallon imprecious.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I also think there's something about maximalism like this where
it's very a album.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Cover, Yes, it's very m I A it's a glitch art.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Glitch art is art. It's commentary on the web.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yes completely, And it's commentary on like inundated God, we're
always inundated with information, and they and and they're just
harvesting our thoughts and views.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Of course, the support artists and I'm so proudly if you.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Think an artist made that, you're living in a dream world.
My friend who made it? Then I would say, I
don't even Yeah, it's not even I think it's someone
whose job isn't clip art. Yeah, it's it's like someone
they didn't have a graphic desire to make it. So
someone was just like, all right, let's put in like
five things in.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Well, the question is like, when they made that, did
they become an artist? Wait?

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Also, the moon is behind the Empire State building. It's
not even just that.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yeah, it's so much. Check it out.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Check it out.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
You guys go to Grand Coffee are Yeah, what is
your straight topic?

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Okay, well, I didn't mean to bring it back to theater.
It's not my play. It's not my play.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Because get it, you're in a play.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I want to say my straight topic is musical theater.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
This is obviously an insane thing deposit because the musical
theater is kind of a classic gay guy gay guy
thing and almost in a cliche way, it's like say
award shows like it's.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
But I just want to say someone I used to
do it, yeah a lot, and coming up it's very like, well,
first of all, it's basic and basic is straight, do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
But it's confusing though, because it's niche and basic.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
It's niche and basic, but so is anime. Sorry, not anime. Anime,
it's kind of niche and basic, but anime I think
is also kind of like elevated and can be sophisticated.
What I meant to say was so is like so consmusic.
So it is like nerd culture, like like like sometimes
like pre big Marvel comic books. You know what I mean?

(50:37):
That is both niche and that was both niche and basic. Yeah, yeah,
you're like flame and a nerd. But also it's like
I know a lot about whatever Aquaman or something, Okay,
but it's also big like church girl energy, like a
lot like Mormons love musical theater that makes makes sense,

(50:57):
love it and when you do it, like a lot
growing up you meet a lot of Mormons, like hyper
Christian gals, and a lot of Broadway is full of these,
like they all go to this church in Times Square
really yeah yeah yeah, and it's.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Like super Christian. And I think there's something about the
extremely stringent schedule and the like using your voice sort
of like God's gift. It all just sort of feels interesting,
it feels very straight.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I was gonna maybe go a different direction, but scapism
it's like escape. It's almost like how I imagine, not
to imagine like Disney Adult.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Very Disney adult, and Disney Gaze. Obviously that's like but
it's like, that's really straight to me, to be a
Disney gang.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Well, yes, yeah, yeah, there's this. And also and I
think both musical theater and Disney have this. It is
a suspended childhood thing, like it is. It's wanting to
exist in a childlike universe where bad things don't exist. Mmmm,

(52:01):
which is also very like avoiding sin. And I understand
that musicals do also. I understand that sins next to normal.
All musicals are about mental health. But before that, but.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I but the take the take.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Oh you think he's not gonna have the take?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
But you know.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Classic, you know Oklahoma, Oklahoma. You get to exist in
a world where there isn't you don't have to think
about the real world temptations you have. Yeah, well, and
they're also kind of like often morality tales.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Is there sexuality in musical theater?

Speaker 4 (52:35):
I think some of it, like I do like some musicals,
but most are pretty uh painful, but you know most
most are pretty embarrassing and hard. Yeah, but there are
some good ones, and some of them can be horny.
I think when some good.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Ones, but I'm like, but the horny is specifically.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
I think when someone sings really well, like actually well,
not like bad way, like it's like a yummy like,
that to me is horny. And then if they're singing
really well and acting horny at the same time, that
is horny. Yeah, but not like Nicole I loved I
loved Sunset Boulevard and loved Nicole in it, but that
wasn't horny to me. That was like camp, like a camp. Sure,

(53:13):
you know, it's interesting, but I think it Yeah, ultimately
I think it maybe like think of if you if
you love Hamilton, that's not gay, no.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Right, I mean there's well, but I think there's a difference.
And even let me wicked, like, yeah, I think that's
certainly you're right, You're right.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
In fact, it makes it kind of I find it
alienating because.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Everyone's like, this is a gay thing.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Yeah, but I'm like, but everyone that's liking it isn't. Yay, kay,
I'm not fucking to this a basement.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Literally, it's like mom's driving, right.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
That's how I got into musicals. Is my mom loved
musicals and when we drive listen to like lames and shit. Yeah,
And I was like, oh, I like this my mom.
She's straight as hell, My straight mom. By the way,
by the way, not a.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Bye part in her.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Oh your mom isn't by.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
My mom's not by. That's really I try.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I well, okay, there something that is gay about it
is like the old Hollywood glamor, like or the old
Broadway glamor of it all, Like when you think about divas,
like divas worship music that's gay, like to be like,
I love Bernadette Peters is gay. That's not straight. Yes,

(54:35):
what is straight about it is the first of all
the contemporary Broadway landscape where it's like everything is an
adaptation of like a nineties rom com or something. But
then also I think it's almost like musicals start out
gay and then get straighter and straighter and straighter as
they get bigger or yeah, you know what I mean.
It's like even even frankly, something like Hamilton, I could

(55:00):
see when it was seut the public, I could see
it being like this thing that like if you know,
you know, and it's by word of mouth, And isn't
it so punk rock that it's like that, you know,
George Washington is not white or.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Right right right, that doesn't feel gay totally.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
But then as it gets bigger and bigger, then it
just becomes m Felon.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Yeah, yeah, wicked, these monoliths, Mama Mia, which is obviously
so gay, is like pretty straight.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
It's like there's this range. When something starts it's Sondheim,
and when it ends it's.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Just Somenheim is like, is pretty gay even though he
writes like all straight, he never writes like queer stories.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, but is there anything gayer than I only writing
about straight people and being in deep pain?

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Yes, there's something about the thing with them getting bigger
and bigger because it just becomes something to bring the
family to exactly.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
That's where a lot of Broadway is that, like obviously
the Disney ones like Aladdin or whatever in Harry Potter,
but like even just like like when Boop was out,
it's like this is not full or like we're pushing
the medium forward.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Sometimes the way that I don't understand the theater landscape
is funny. It's like like hearing about like a foreign country.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Well also, okay, so we went out after the play
last night and it was you, you two and two
other human beings who are also Brooklyn gay guys, and
the way you were all completely lost in Hell's Kitchen,
like where do we go? Where are we? Like like
as it if we were in another country where we
did not speak the language. I'm in no GPS.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
There's a level of stress I'm working with because I'm like,
I'm forty minutes from where I'm supposed to.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Guys only knew what flaming saddles was. All of it
was like name of bar. It was like flaming sounds
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I'm even like, okay, so we're close to the Eagle.
We're not even close to the Eagle twenty blocks.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Away, like you know every Hell's Kitchen bar I've been
to exactly once and then had like a frankly like
Lynchean night, Like I just it's like I remember like
this inclusive, like why was James Gordon there? No the
wind when we.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Left, My god, we all got blasted with dust in
our mouths.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Yeah, it was crazy. That was Lynchia. It actually the
tornado we were all Isabella Roussolini.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I mean it was it was interesting to see you
It's like watching a fish, you know, get dropped into
water and you're like knowing where to go.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
I was like, whoa, Yeah, well because I went to
theater school, I have seen a lot of theater, so
I do know that area. Because I was telling you
last night, we go out after a French show. So
it's like I know that, but I don't go to
Hell's Kitchens like hang out. But now I go there
every single day for work. Yeah, so they do sort
of like.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
It's I think Hell's Kitchen is what I think. I
have a list of places that I'm like, those are
pre show or post show places. I think if that
is different from Hell's Kitchen absolutely, which you're going for
like a gay night. Yeah that feels a game, yes exactly.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
You know, like we're like we're going to the gay
bars in Hell's Kitchen. Yeah, that's a different thing than
like I'm having a post.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
It also stresses me out because it actually tests my
relationship with reality. I'm like, this is an entire this
is actually the default world.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
That's why watching you all it was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
It was no it's it's truly like, what is this
city looking at like?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
And by the way, they're in New York is in
some ways way more valid than ours. They are in
completely like no, but it's like they're in They're in
New York. They're in New York. We're barely in New York.
We're in the suburbs.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
We're in the suburbs. And then you then you realize too,
not to whatever, but like when you're in Fire Island,
you're like, these are the people that I'm like out
and about with. No.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
It's like, wait, there's only twenty gig guys.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I like, yeah, like, and then every other gig guy
is like the most foreign person I've ever met.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
It's so different from me. Yeah, it's really scary. Sometimes
I don't think I don't think it's good when my
world expands.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Keep it, keep it.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I'm like, there's fifteen guys did guys.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
They all do comedy.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
The backgrounds, but.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
They also just them now and they're right, yeah, they're
right right, but none of it them act me. It's
it does, but no one sees it. And those are
the fifteen guys, the fifty guys population. Fifteen guys guys.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
That's why whenever there's an election, I'm like, whoa, wha,
whoa who whoa not my fifteen?

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah you wait on men, he got fifteen votes?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Did he not.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Coct that's unanimous? Rianimous, not my fifteen.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Whereas not only is it unanimous, but then if some
if one person of the fifteen has like a descending opinion,
you're like, oh god, like should we put him down?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (59:43):
I'm literally wait, the propositions were so funny watching people
spin out. Wait because the liberals disagreed. That was like
the and even like the like the leftist.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Yes, no, that was I was really Every every like
five years there is an issue where there's like legit
the mint disagreement among the fifteen and like uh and
people don't both sides discourse and people don't know how
to act. Yeah, no, they go nuts because it's like
we're used to like slit their throat, yeah, versus them,
but it's like, oh, actually people are confused. Yeah, yeah,
people are confused. They're reading different use No, they're both

(01:00:16):
sort of right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, Nuance, Sorry, I don't pay attention to right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
You're in la Wait where he registered to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
That's an amazing question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Thank you vote absentee. So I voted in the bats,
now in the Okay, but then we changed our car
insurance and accidentally registered.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
It's almost you're a California girl. Now you're Katie Fury.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
But then I'm going to you know, it's all complicated
because then I'm going to come back and it's all
missed up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
So you're av Levine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
So they need to do a recount. When you come back, They're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Like, wait, there's sixteen votes. This changes everything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Wait, I thought they were in Lance Live.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I thought there were fifteen gay guys.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
Wait, z way doing Eric Adams. That's so far, so funny.
Shout out, Shout out to the girl, Eric, after the
girl Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
One of the biggest depos we've got.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
It really is an underdiscussed element of like he is
a truly unique figure in it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Do you remember this, This is the whole issue with
and all these people that are really horrible politicians where wait,
if you just didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Have power, you would be so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Oh my god, Well, okay, do you remember it was
like shortly after he got elected, one of his campaigns
was to stop they're not at vs. But you know,
people like ride those things all around, and he was like,
we're going to stop these and and so he had
like gathered a bunch of them up and then had
a monster truck run them over. It's like, that's cint.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
No, that's nice that more politician just run them over
monster truck. I'm mayor so fun Also, mayor is sort
of a funny title. I know it doesn't carry the
weight of you know, president, and I know that, and
I know that it's an important job of course, oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, but tell me exactly what the mayor can and
can't do, because I can run it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Over with But the mayor is not in charge of
the subway. Well that's like an independent of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I'm just like, what what can we what can the
mayor actually change? Why is he not just like the
CEO of the city. Why can't he and why did
you just say he.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Because wow, let's unpack? Unpack? And is the mayor a rapper? George?

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I mean, I do think Zorn is not ect. I
guess he's maybe like chance the rapper.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Didn't he requested Kim Tetris. That was going, Yeah, that's
like I mean, I gotta all from Grace happening soon.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
I'm like he I was like, this selection needs to
happen soon because this this shtick is not lasting much
like I get it. He's charmed everyone, he's charmed me,
but like we are one week away from everyone turning.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Yeah happens, that's it happens with social media.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Thing, with social media. He is ultimately an influencer. He's
our first influencer. Mayor at last, at last, thank god,
at last. The branding is on point. No notes from George.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Creative direction was to die. Oh he had his baba.
He has no more creative direction.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Baba.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
So in terms of musical theater, Oh right, that's what
I was like, should we wrap up?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
No, I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I want to know, like like so that sounds like
the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I want to know what is the straightest musical?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I mean, what's the musical?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
No, Wicked is pretty straight to me, but let's let's
do like a non monolith non like it's been running
for twenty years, you know, like what's the straightest you know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
You a non monolith?

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Yeah, like as the straightest musical because all of those
are like they've all been because they're just for tourists.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Sure, sure, sure, sure, no offense. But even of those,
like as Phantom straight, I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Like Phantom's gayer than Wicked because Phantom is about a
masked man who's obsessed with an opera singer completely and
he takes her down to his foggy little land and
what just wants her to sing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I almost I almost think dial Worship step A Worship
is Mama Mia straight Mom and Mia.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Even though obviously it's very gay, Like, I think that's
pretty straight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I will say. I mean I've only seen the film,
but that was kind of horny to me, Mama.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Miah, Yeah, Dad, they're all like three guys and doesn't
like I'm Nola's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Being Nola.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
No, it's very horny.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I was like, you're allowed to say this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Yeah, And then like they're all like all the young
chorus people are like in swimsuits the whole time. Yeah,
they're singing like kind of naked.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Loads are gonna fine me, I will not refuse.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
You must love it because of Greek.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I do love it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Yeah, did you see yourself in that? I?

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Yes, I absolutely did.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Do you love sister? Heard of the Traveling pants because
of Greek Oh yes, so I never saw that until
like I want to say, like five years ago on
a plane.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
And I was entranced. The best.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
No, that is the best.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
And they're all beautiful. For the girl, I was just like,
look at these beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
It is like genuinely inspiring that they're all different and
can be friends. I'm like, yeah, and the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Pants fit, the pants fit folks and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
So and what's the Gilmore girl alex Plaut when she
she that was filmed, that was I was not stupid, right,
that was filmed in Greece. Yes, I'm like that gig.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I know just has to play soccer.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I get to make out with a hot guy in Greece. Yeah,
I'll take that firstus like, yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Babysitting literally, other girls are I'm babysitting, I'm playing soccer
and literally I'm being fat shamed. Yeah, those are those
are the other three. And then by super.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Stepmom and then she said I'll go to Greece and
like funk like, sign me up and I'll do the
sequel to Bitch. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Good for her, Good for her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
They should do that for gay guys. The Traveling Pants
the Traveling Jockstrap, Traveling Jockstraps guys. And it's like we
did a Lake Home High plot that was I was
in it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I think you were.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
It was like, Hi, at the Annoyance r I P alright,
p Brooklyn Annoyance, Brooklyn annoyance, Fast of Chicago at Last
sour crowd on the hot dogs or no, that's not no, No,
it's hot peppers and mustard, Hot peppers and must and
a pickle. Of course. Of course, boys Town, that's the

(01:07:12):
best of the three of Hell's Kitchen, Boystown, West Hollywood,
West Hollywood or the Castro still.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Okay, it's gonna be voice anything I would say. I mean,
I would certainly say West Hollywood is dead.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Last fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
And I guess I guess like dead.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I would maybe do the last, maybe do Boystown. Then
casts as a.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Cast there's an old there's an old school charm like Castro.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
You always think it's going to be more basic than
it is. It actually like is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
I would actually like sex positives, fun, sex positive, sick.
I mean serious, there's naked men, Yes, there's n and
also you think, I guess San Francisco is all like
or over the last few years has been all like
annoying tech transplants. You think that's what the cash is
going to be, but then it's like you'll see like
a sort of leathery old gay couple walking around.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
You're like, okay, great.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
And I also the bars, you know how like West
Hollywood and even Hell's Kitchen, they have just sort of
the like like click art gay bar. Yeah, I feel
but I like Michael and I were there in December
January or something, and they have there's like a bar
that like feels like an old ship and there's like
a big fish yeah you know, and you're like, Okay,
this is not like yeah, it's not just yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
They've maintained it. I mean a lot of it has.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Where do where do like the gay guys that live
in San Francisco like go though, I mean it depends
there's like well tell me, depends on what the day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
I mean, I like el Rio, have you been? By
the way, all my references for anyone listening are fifteen
years old, so don't write in Okay, I need a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Hole in the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Hole in the wall. Okay, see I don't really like
hold the wall, no offense.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I go to the leather spots.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Oh it's not I know you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
When I was living there in you know again fifteen
years ago, I liked del Rio. I mean the stud
was like a yeah, I've heard of that place.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Cool San Francis. Listeners are screaming like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
It's They're like, those are all wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Problem, We're all going to splash.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Splash, Splash New York. I was, let's hear it, New Splash.
You stupid?

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Oh do you like to I do like to date
oneself through knowing which gay bars were around when. Yeah,
like the fact that I was alive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
When sugar Land was alive. Sugar Land, I'm like, I'm
one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Wait do you remember Love Gun?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Do I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
The Podcarver the TikTok Old gaze where they're like literally
reminiscing about like what the remember like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
A barbershop quartet, Respect your Elders Honey, Darling Gun was open.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
We had to record an ad for the Old Gays
podcast that started with Respect your Elders Honey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
People were making fun of us. They should.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
No one point. I had to record it and I
sent in the file and then I got any of
the back that was like this file doesn't open. I
never responded, this found isn't open this fold?

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Is it upen? Due to bigotry?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
No, love gun was so they were bussing in gay
guys from Hell's Kitchen to Brooklyn because they didn't think
Brooklyn gay guys mattered.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I don't like they do with animal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
No. But they were literally paying for buses.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
But it was so crazy Mamdannie and peoples from Healths
Kitchen to Williams Bat's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
So I voted and then everyone hated it so much
because Brooklyn was not in a place where they were
ready for a place with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
The cover yet.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Yeah, and it was it was like twenty dollars cop.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
It was crazy. Wait one and by the way, this
was nineteen eighty two, nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
And then so then within just from the first track,
Madonna was a name I was just hearing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
So then that's when I fisted Larry Kramer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
All gonna stopped going like within two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
I remember, it was like, oh, there's a new place,
let's all go. We all went, We're like this sucks,
and we supped this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Then they stopped charging the cover. Yeah, and then I
start going every single weekend. There's approximately three people inside,
and I'm like, this is my favorite bar on then
and this.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Is how you know death Now they started filming web
series there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
And even porn.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Oh yeah, porn, because I remember, like you know, in
my research I saw the big love gun sign like
in a porn I was like, oh my god, like
sending it to everyone, like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
They would charge you different prices for drinks, like depending
on their mood, because they were like, oh, this place
doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
That was very this and that too rip and that
was totally different. That was like a real that was real,
that had real Brooklyn, that had an energy. And remember
when it's a comedy theater before it was this and
that the cove. I did improv there too, great failure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Wow, it's fun to reminisce.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah, that was really fun. You were here for this
and I wasn't here. Pat Reagan's first gay bar was
this and not Whoa Sadly during that time, I've probably
lived in Boston, which I've also lived in Boston, I
must say, did you were you a club cafe queen?

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Yeah, the worst gay bars I've ever been to to
offense love Boston.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
I didn't go out that much because I was like
eighteen to twenty two years old and poor.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
That's where your conservatory was, Yes, the Boston Conservatory. Boston
Conservatory sort of a gay bar in and of itself.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Absolutely, Yeah, Okay, we should do our final segment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Okay, I'm not asking anymore. I'm not asking for me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
She's got her mommy pants on, mommy's mad, mommy's mad
at her boys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
She's mommy pants. Let's do it, you know, my little
segment way the way that what you know, it's I'm
so excited for you in your future. What's lots of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I'm so excited for you and your time. Talk about
mommy pants for you were dropping you off, we were
dropping you off at Bassar.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
You're gonna be somebody one day when you are a
fifty five year old gay guy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
It is over four, Like when you are like like
you've been drunk for like eight hours straight and it's
seven pm.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
And you're like, someone's got our mommy pants on. So
you think to be an alcoholic, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Gonna be the Drew Drogan character from the play.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I just think if you want to like make a splash,
you do need to be an alcoholic. You you do
need to find it within you. I know it's gonna
be hard on your body, but that's what the theater
trainings for.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
It's just training for eight shows a week. Eight drink tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Because those little things. Imagine a twenty two year old
hearing that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
I'm dad. Wait, can I tell a story please? I
don't know if this is allowed to be told. I
heard this third hand from somebody who was there. Someone
was also about James Cordon. No, no, somebody was at
a one of our mutual friends. Who was that Fire
Island Like rich gay guy old.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Rich gay guy old likes.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
To invite youth over and like have dinner and like
you know, like be fancy, have cocktails and then like
you know, tell them about the past. That's sort of
like the toll you pay. But but it's a nice
house and but everybody likes to go, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Yeah, I'm sure it's like the one house that has them.
I'm sure you paid the toll.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Oh I paid. Anyways, no one wanted me. They said,
we don't. We can't tell if you're older. Young.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Our friend was there, and also the actor actor Andrew
Scott was there, Okay, and then some guy was there
with his like young. I'm just throwing in the age
twenty two, but let's just say twenties. I don't know
how old this person was. This young boyfriend was there,
and the young boyfriend is in a Broadway musical, like
in the chorus of a Broadway musical, finds out Andrew

(01:14:56):
Scott is an actor, was like, oh, you're an actor already,
Like hilarious. I was like, what are you in? And
this is when he was in Vanya. He's like, I'm
in Vanya and they were like, where's that and he's like,
it's that the Lucy allerts out never heard of it.
And then they're like, I'm on Broadway. Then then okay.
Then the queer elder is telling their their story and

(01:15:18):
they're talking about the AIDS epidemic and they're talking about
how when your answering machine was full, you knew like
oh one of your friends got it. And so he's
like that's so bad. He's like, I walk home and
my answering machine's full and I'll never forget the day
and I'm just making up a day. He's like, I'll
never forget the day. It was like April second, nineteen
ninety one. Evan, the kid goes, that's my sister's birthday.

(01:15:44):
That is so good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
That is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
I want to give credit to the person who told
me the story, but I don't want to in case
they don't want for everyone to know. They're DM Aaron
for the credit. But who I know who told me
the story? And it's your story. I'm telling him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
My god, Wow, that is legendary.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
That's nice. That's nice. I love the youth. No, it's
just always gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yeah, and that was us. No, for sure, you know,
mere decades ago.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
No, I was never getting invited to a rich gay
guys house. I'm still not getting invited to a rich sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Well, the likelihood is not going to increase as you
get all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Come on, baby, DM me, I'm hot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Keep up those socials.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Socials.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this
segment we pay a marshals the Grand Strat tradition of
the radio shout out, shouting out anything people place, these
things ideas that we are enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I have one off the top of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
My head, what is up freak exclosers and most importantly,
perverts around the globe. I would like to give a
huge shout out to Alexis Bladell.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
I don't know why I feel such strong feelings about
Alexis Bladell. I feel that she is my cousin.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I won't say sister, but there's something about her that
I'm like, we grew up together.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
We either went to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
School together, or we are cousins. There is something so
familial about Alexis Bladell. And whenever she gets a roll,
I'm like, damn, she did that. And whenever she doesn't
get a roll, I'm like, I'm so glad she's like
taking a break, Like Alexis Bladell to me, you know
she is going to I can't wait till she's older.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Because she's fit me five. She's gonna have an amazing life,
an amazing career. And I think she's already made a
huge impact on the culture. And I think she has
been happy and healthy the entire time. And I know
because I'm an EmPATH and she is my cousin. So
shout out to Alexa Pladell. I don't know how related,
but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I just feel it. XXO. Sam.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Who do you think they'll do a reboot?

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
They already did, but she's the mom though, oh that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
I don't know, and then have a precocious daughter of
her own.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
She should have a fucked up crazy daughter with addiction.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
It should be should be a mom on Euphoria Day
with the drugs. Oh yeah, her daughter should be in
Day Heroin.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
I can't wait for a season three D four.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
It's gonna be that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
It's all gonna be in there forties, I fully.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Brand new cat, like what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
It's gonna be a game.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Show since as a host.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
It's on Quibbie.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
She's relapsing through the Price Aday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
It's like Joker three.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
She's relapsing and doing the prices right. It's about her.
It's the comeback, come back, but it's but it's in
Day instead of Lisa Gutro. She's doing a reality show
about how She's like, I can't wait about how season
three of Before it keeps getting rescheduled.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
That's gonna be good. Yeah, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Let's up Breaks and Losers. I want to give a
shout out to I'm gonna say it. I want to
give a shout out to our friend Rachel Sennet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
You did that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
I am so I am proud of her like a
father is proud of his daughter, a cousin like a cousin,
except I do know her personally. Okay, we all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
On like Aless's, but there's a familiarity, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I just want to say, you know, ever, you know,
she's funny, she's a great writer, she's extremely hard working,
She's done it all. But I want to specifically shout
out her acting talents. I think that, like the classical
training is really jumping out. I think she is a
very gifted actress, which not a lot of these girls
can say for themselves. And I think we have to
be honest about that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Let's be honest. But when I'm seeing her, there's things
happening up here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
She is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
It's a completely embodied performance. You might think it's easy
to play, you know, a kind of exaggerated version of
yourself or something, or you might think that's Rachel's doing wrong.
She is doing something that very few people can do,
and the Stella Adler is oozing through her veins. And
so I just want to say, congrats, Rachel, We're all
very proud of you. Here at the Brooklyn all comedy scene.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
We are, Yeah, I am Josh Sharp. He's a comedian.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
I don't know him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Josh on the fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Me and him did joke punch ups on that movie Bodies,
Bodies Bodies, Oh yeah, And we were doing it before
it was cast and then they we were like talking
to the people and they're like, oh, we're we're seeing
Rachel Senate for this one part. And I'm not claiming
that I had anything to do with her getting that part,
but we were like, you have to, you have to
cast her. And then we just wrote like every joke

(01:20:25):
for that gar yea. Literally like we were like, oh,
that it's gonna be a generational talent.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
And then she of.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Course booked it and was so good in that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
She was really in that movie. It's really good to
your turn.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Hey, Pigs, Hogs and slop fucks, good to see you all.
Something I'm really enjoying these days that I want to
shout out and these two can attest is a Gin
Martini with olive, but not I'm really I'm I'm really
in that bag. I love to have one of those

(01:20:59):
and just feel like I just really feel like that girl.
I feel like Margot chanting.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
I'm really in that bad. I like to have one
of those.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
It's very very it's giving me having one, it's giving
to Yeah, I'm loving.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
That well, and I couldn't agree more as well. It
was so beautiful when you ordered that last night.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
I'll have the same. I love sale, I love saying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
That's from Euphoria before. It's about heroines into apatos and
they is really like strung out and then and then
mod appatite goes. I'll have what she's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
God, I remember that. I remember where I was when
I saw that scene. I was on set.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
Its showrunner.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
It's impossible to direct. And it's the reason it's so
delighted is because I'm busy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
I'm busy this pod.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
We were on tour and I've just been so busy,
right contemplating moving back to New York's a lot of
thinking getting divorced, getting remarried or married or sure will
they won't?

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
They all different?

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Guys, Ross and Rachel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Check out Messy White Gay please on.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Not Broadway, off Broadway at the Duke Theater. It's available
wherever talks to Broadway, but like really on forty second Street.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
It's not one of those Off Broadway theaters. It's like
downtown when I learned in Midtown, when I learned that
Off Broadway could be anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
It's all about theater size. That stressed me out, size queen,
and it is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
It is about theater size. But yours is like for
an off Broadway theater, you know, pretty large.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
It's not one hundred nine nine seats.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Yeah, that's gigantic.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Just make it a clean two hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Two d the limit that makes it Broadway.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
No, I think it's at four hundred nine nine seats.
Is a Broadway house? So four?

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
What is it with this ninety nine there? It's like
a sale relaxed.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
It's KOOKI there's a little bit of magic left in
the squirrel. I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
So Ron, do something about theater. This ship doesn't make.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Any He needs the standardize it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
I hate this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Do something about theater.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Close the M and M store, close them, yeah, close
them all movies only from now on television thirty five
million industry is doing so well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Oh bitch, well, hold an age of television.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Okay, okay, we have to go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Okay, we have to go. Goodbye bye.

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Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
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