"Romantic Comedies" w/ Taylor Tomlinson

Do NOT call HR because Sam's real-life boss Taylor Tomlinson, superstar host of After Midnight, is off the clock and ON the pod this week! Recorded mere blocks from the Oscars the morning of the big night, we chat about the lasting appeal of the Republican straight rom com, whether Jeff Probst feels isolated due to his immense talent, and the triumph of Kristen Stewart in the worlds of cinema and also culture. Plus: Does Zoey Deutch have what it takes? I guess we'll see.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Podcast starts now. Wow, welcome back to a Stradia Lab,
America's favorite podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We are coming at you and I'm sorry to date
the episode, but there's no way around it.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Date this.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
This is gonna come out in you know, a month
or two, but it is Oscar Sunday, and the oscars
are taking place mere blocks from where we are right.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now, merror blocks from where we are, and how you know,
how do you feel in relation to that? You know,
it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I've been feeling this way a lot while during this
LA visit, where I'm kind of like I feel too
close to it all. I'm seeing billboards for shows that
I think don't exist like I think they are because
you know how sometimes they'll put billboards up close to
celebrities houses just so they think their movie is being
promoted more than it actually is. Yeah, I think there's
something like that happening. I saw a billboard for a show.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, first of all, our.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Producer senters an image that she took a picture. One
could say, a photograph of a billboard that said Dealer
no deal island.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, fake, fake, that is not real.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Why would you need to go to an island to
do Dealer?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It doesn't matter where it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's in a studio, And how can you even make
that competitive? There's like suitcases hidden every I mean no,
I'm sort of on board. Now that's a different game.
That's a different game. It's not I mean, wait here,
I saw another one for Farmer Needs a Wife.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's a show.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You better believe it's four farmers wives.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
There's four people old farmer needs a wife.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Maybe it's farmer wants a wife. But it's intentionally, you know,
the syntax is intentionally, you know, stupid ironically, like it's
farmer wants a wife.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I think I think you're pointing to something smart, which
is that the geographic closeness almost makes me feel like
I'm a part of it in a way that's like
not true, like obviously.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh interesting, because I had the opposite feeling where I
was like, I feel so out, so at a distance
because I'm not part of everything happening around me. It's
like when you're in midtown everyone's walking around in a
suit and you're.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So aware of the fact that you are, you know,
wearing last night's going out dress. No, I feel like, oh,
the oscars are happening over there, like yeah, they're my coworkers. Sure.
Like I'm like, oh, I relate to these people so much,
Like yeah, like my like Nisha's in town, his dad
is in town, and I'm sort of like, those are
the oscars that happens pretty much every weekend around here.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, you know what, Actually I had a similar So
I was at John's house a couple of nights ago
and then and it turns out he's going to be oscars.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I was like, oh, so now that I it's just
sort of like in the same way that you'd be
like going going a union hall for a show, some
people are going to the oscars.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
That makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, when does it stop? When
does what stop? When does it stop being Who's going
to get like the Presidential Award of Freedom And I'm
gonna be like, oh, yeah, my friend got the Presidential
Award of Freedom. Yes, yes, yes, you know wage last guests?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is that what would you say is like the peak
of not to be toxic?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
But who's our most successful guest?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
No, no, no, no, we're not saying that, who's our least
successful who's the least successful guest? What is your peak
of like the highest honor?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
You could get the highest Olympic gold medal. Wow, yeah,
how about you have a lot of work to do
on that. I mean, not even in that industry. That's
why I'm getting all these experimental surgeries. That's right, that's right,
you're getting.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I heard gossip about someone I want to say who
who is banned from all hospitals in New York because
they kept getting too many elective surgeries. I'm not gonna
tell you.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Wait, you said somebody said something stupid and you were
going to do them before we st.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, this is really controversial, and and then I have
the theory that is inappropriate, but I do need to
share with Okay, we also do need to bring in
our guests, and of course these are already planning the
next four things we're gonna do. Okay, all right, and
then we should get lunch. Yeah, we're getting lunch. I'm
intermittent fasting. Actually, so see you at four, see.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You at four. I okay, apologies.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
If the person I'm talking to ever finds this podcast,
I don't think they will, but I just have to
say that.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, when sometimes you have.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
An la interaction that is truly out of like a
movie that is making fun of La. Yeah, so I
was talking to someone. This is someone who works in
the entertainment industry, not to brag huge in in an
executive role, Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
And so he was trying to say he was talking
about like some heyday of TV or something. He was like,
you know the NBC lineup in the ninety something and
he goes, oh, he wanted to say that was the
creme de la creme of you know, television. And he goes,
I mean that was the Piaa terere.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, this is this is where it gets complicated, because
what is what is that one?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, Piana ar is like I think Pana tear is
like having an apartment in a different city that you
don't always use.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Like we have a Piana tar in Paris. This is
where it gets complicated because you said that you were
saying that almost sounded like a New Yorker cartoon like chrom.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Okay, Oh my god, not believe.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I told this story to four people. They've all laughed.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
And here I am being dragged on my own podcast
for being at a different coastal elite.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's too you you were you were to New York.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
This person was to la. I can't believe this.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I've never flopped so hard in my life.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I was trying to. I was really trying. I just
didn't know what it meant. I want to what's your story. Well,
now you're going to flop it on purpose because you
want revenge. And now, okay, this is complicated. Our guest
today is you know, I mostly see in the offices
of a corporate entity, so this feels weird to bring up,

(05:42):
but hr does an extend to hear. So I'm going
to say having a catheter, in which I still do.
We're still in the catheter era.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And that has already been addressed with the guest that's about.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
So I've already addressed to the catheter that exists, but
I have to tell you while it's happening. The side
effect of having catherterin is people everywhere are asking about
your dick.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
People are literally Kathy Griffin asked you about your dick
and staid the word dick while asking you, and.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Then you know, like family, everyone's sort of like, how's
your dick? And in this way that, especially with men,
I feel like is like, finally I can talk about
my dick in the same way that straight eyes do,
and this.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
It's sort of like.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like, oh man, yeah, it sucks when your dick has
weird stuff in it. Like guys love to like relate
about dick stuff in a way that like normally they
can't because they're like, well, you get a different thing.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
So have you been talking to strake guys a lot
about this?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I feel like like, okay, I'm mostly thinking about like
Misha's dad, oh relate to the way. Yeah. He's sort
of like like everyone sort of and even yeah, people,
some straight guys are like, oh man, that must suck
because our dick's right, And it's very like I haven't
been part of that brotherhood or in a while.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
We do different things with our dicks than straight guys do,
of course, but this is actually something that is more similar,
the most similar thing we could possibly do, So we
could both have catheters put in theoretically, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
And I think the pain is relatable, and I think
the sort of like and then the like reminiscing on
like what dick's do. Like they're like, man, because normally
I love my dick, right, And it's like so true
and it feels very it's like horny removed from sexuality. Yes,
and it's like that, and so that's sort of my

(07:36):
new theory is it's unlocked something.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Do you think that a way to combat homophobia would
be a sort of elective catheters for all, so that
straight man could relate to gay men.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I actually think the government should mandate it.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
As always, the government needs to actually step it up
in a big way, in a huge way.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Let's see how they do with the Oscar get out
and vote. You all? You all? Should we bring in
our illustrious guests. I think we should.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'm well, you know, I think you should do the honors.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean, I don't even know what to say. Today
we are joined by the Taylor Tomlinson.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Hi, welcome Taylor.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Can I just say, please, the most confident thing I've
ever seen doing an intro to the podcast in front
of your silent guest, that is, I.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Mean, thank you for bringing this up.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
We're actually really good at doing it.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You're really good at it. I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
We've debated over over the years, like do we like
record this ahead of time? Do you record this after
like most people do, like a normal thing. Yeah, yeah,
But I actually really think people need to understand the
tone that we're coming.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I really like sort of I like, and I
was doing this with you, sort of like peeking at
the guests, being like she's laughing.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, but I can't make noise, I know, so I
had to like really exaggerates.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Also, it's like a social experiment where sometimes guests, there
are some guests, not you, that are so like triggered
by not hearing the sound of their own voice that
they can can't help it, and they do.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
They just so this was a test and I passed, passed, Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Great, And yeah, we were even sometimes we'll have like
not to keep talking about Kathy Griffin, but Yester, we
were like, was Kathy Griffin too famous for us to
do that with her?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
But speaking of your most successful guests, I was like, well,
I know it's not me.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
It was, yeah, the way that I don't feel self
conscious about it anymore, I don't either.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
That's what's so impressive is you don't come. I would like,
I've done podcasts, and I would never do that. I'd
be like, we're going to record one later. It's fine,
and we're just gonna talk about how great you are. Anyway,
let's just get into it. So many people tell us
I would never do that.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, I hear you. No, I loud and clear.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
It went well. It wasn't as comfortable, it was entertaining.
I'm not criticizing. I'm actually in awe of the choice.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Beautiful just a testament to how comfortable we feel with you.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
But it isn't though, because it's every episode like that
was a nice try nice also to.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Be interpreted as like an insult like we feel it's like, oh,
it's good, it's natural that she's silent, Like did you
speak Waite Taylor?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
If you had to?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Would you watch Dealer No Deal Island? Or Farmer Needs
a Wife?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I've seen that also. I've seen them. No, not the show.
I was like, can you imagine if I was like,
that's my favorite show. I haven't seen the Farmer one,
but I've seen the Dealer No Deal Island and the
host is like, a is it a famous actor?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I forget who it is? Wait, but I remember looking
at it and I'm like, oh, it's that guy.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Damn it. Well, I'm not going to look.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I should know every game show host by now. I should.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I should You're in the business, And eventually we actually
shouldn't make fun of it because it's a peer of yours.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm trying to get to Dealer Island. This is a
stepping stone after.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You're literally like the dream. Oh of course. I mean
it's clearly somebody just wanted to go on vacation and
wanted to make it tax deductible, and so they're like
Dealer No Deal Island.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
And wanted it to be the easiest game possible. Is
it this brief, you guys? Or this brief?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh my god? Who is it? It's John Joe Manello?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yes, who? So if you gars x, oh.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm suddenly a gas ex is hosting Dealer No Deal
Island months after the divorce.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, though, No, you.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Know what his big thing is. He loves dungeons and dragons.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Really did you see that movie? It was so good
it actually it was great.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think he was in it.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
He probably, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Why do you know that that's this big thing because
of a podcast I listened to.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not this one.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Wow, we would not break news like that here.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
No, I don't remember him being in it. Really saw
it a few times. I loved that movie. Why I
thought it was so good? I just thought it was
so funny.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Dungeons Dragon No.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I knew nothing about Dungeons and Dragons at all. There's
like one part you don't have to be a fan
to enjoy that movie. There's one part where you're like,
they're making fun of the game right now, but it's
obvious to a non player, And then someone who is
a player of the game was like, right there, they
did it. You know, they did a great job.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I was very jet lagged, and I just like wanted
to go see a movie, and I looked up reviews
for stuff because I thought it was going to be terrible.
I remember the trailer came out and I was like,
what we're doing board games now? And then I saw
it and I was like, I stand corrected. This is
the best comedy I've seen in ears.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Do you feel that you have more respect for game
show hosts now that you were in their community?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Honestly, yes, it seems like such a difficult job, but yes,
now that ours is a real game show at all, Like,
I can't imagine managing people's feelings as they are winning
and losing.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
That would be real people that flew in.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, this is comedians we're all being dumb, you know. Yeah,
people are trying to win handfuls of almonds.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
It is scary though, when sometimes you're like, oh, that
person actually wanted to win. I'm like, oh yeah, like
because not everyone is that an and when you do
get that and they don't, and you're like, they're gonna
be upset for like, yeah, twelve hours. Oh.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I made sure tig One. I was like taking her.
Sure I was gonna be upset. Tig was actually very competitive.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, in a way I.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Did not see coming. Yeah, And so I was like,
let's make sure tig One's that is so funny.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
You heard her here first. It's rigged.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's rigged. It's rigged. It's tigged. It's tigged.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Take her take Island.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Who what are you say?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
No? I I have also been like now, I like,
look at all, like any talk show. I'm like, the work,
the work that you guys do, Okay, I'm like this
is insane. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
No, I feel like I have probably the easiest job
on the show. I think you guys have the hardest
job by far, Like.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Really, who do you think is the hardest job? I
feel like Unio Graphics. People keep telling me that, and
I'm like, I show up and I get someone else
dresses me, someone else brushes my hair. I read everyone's
like so impressed. I can read a teleprompter. I'm like,
I didn't write any of this. Thank you so much,
and I know you are.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You are very good at ready.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's very impressive and even like, but for me, it's
more like the mood I've actually want to talk to
you about this, because.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I know that's why I want to do this podcast,
and I want to meet you of course, Church, of course.
But I was like, I never get any time to
talk to anybody because like we go into that read
through in the morning and you guys were working before that,
so I don't want to come in and be like, hey,
guys want to talk. You're like we're going them in
the middle of something trying to make you look good tonight,
and then it's like this big read through where it's everyone,

(14:34):
and so even like trying to make jokes is very
intimidating because when they don't land, You're like that was
in front of everyone I work with, and then like
everybody's just prepping guests and like I'm in hair makeup,
and it's just it moves so quickly.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's there's not much downtime. Yeah, but I feel like you,
it seems very hard, like I would struggle in your
position with like maintaining a normal.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Mood, Like oh yeah, yeah, you are, like you have
to be like on with people kind of all day. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean it helps that everyone who works on the
show is so great, Like, yeah, that's a big reason
I wanted to do the show. Is like everybody just
kind of top to bottom, is lovely to work with,
and it's nice to come in and see everyone. But yeah,
I mean that is the thing that I was most

(15:19):
worried about and has been the biggest challenge, is just
like based on I have social anxiety, so like figuring
out like when to go in and bother people, when
did not bother people and say hi, thanks for doing
the show. Because they're obviously working really hard with the
writers so that they go out and they feel like
they have a lot of material to go off of,
because we've seen when people aren't prepared how well that goes.

(15:40):
Some people love, some people love to rip.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
There's really only been like one person who came in
and wasn't ready, but otherwise everyone's everyone's pretty prepared. But yeah,
it's just like, yeah, it's it's interesting to I'm really
glad Marian has been booking people who know each other, yeah,
because that really helps when they all don't know each
other and then they don't know me. It's just like
for random, disconnected people being like, do you think this

(16:08):
is a good reddit? So do you think this is
a real subreddit? Do you think Hillary? It's all those
ankles are a community on redit.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's so it's supposed to be like we're all friends.
So when there's so clearly no connective tissue, it's kind
of glaring. Yeah, and I do agree she's doing a
good job at that. Yeah. It feels so nice when
that is like, oh, we're all a friend group. Who
are your three dream guests as like at the same time.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, the Jonas brothers. Yeah, because I feel like they
know each other. It'll be fun, but also there could
be some tension that ladies. Oh my god, oh my god. Yes,
that's huge actually so good.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh in this perfect and Samantha won't do it, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's perfect. She'll send in a video. Yeah,
we can play on the big.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Screen exactly, but then she'll be paid more than everyone else. Yes,
exactly and styled by Patricia Fields.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Wow, that's what you have a dream.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Now, I'm trying to think. I'm like, the heim sisters
would be great. They actually are local. We should get
them tomorrow. They on camera, They'll definitely do it. It's
so funny.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
How what a weird coincidences that So I used to
very briefly I worked on the show called Game Show
that was hosted by Matt Rodgers and our friend Dave Mazzoni,
and it was literally like a fake game show where
comedian guests like did fake challenges to win fake prizes.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
So it's so strange.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
That we both have had these jobs that have like
the exact same tone, and like we would book like
be like, you know, Nicole Byer and Joel Kimbooster and
they already know each other and they have chemistry and
blah blah, and she can like make fun of him
and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But it is true that.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Sometimes people you think are going to be good are not.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean pretty much everyone we've had I
think has been good and like down to.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, do it. I've mostly been impressed because even you know,
I'm a I'm a hater from.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You, yeah yeah, from New York.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Of course, I've got to be a little snego.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
We need to talk about our evolving identities as haters.
I'm really trying to not be one. And the other
day I watched something that was so bad that I
was like, I'm gonna become like a cyberable. I'm gonna
join like subreddits and actually like make people suffer.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Like suffer.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I was like, I've been holding off for so long.
I've really tried to go into everything with an open mind,
and I'm like enough.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, no, I'm actually turning the opposite. I'm like the
la is like seeping in. I'm becoming like like, you know,
it was a good effort, no matter what. Yeah. Like
I'm sort of like like there are people that come
on the show where I'm like have no connection to
and honestly have like a unfounded disdain where I'm like
who do I think they are? And then I'm like
but I'm always impressed and I'm like, oh I'm an asshole.

(18:47):
They're actually really funny and nice.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
We're in sensitive to people being like, you know, for
lack of I have a better better word, like corny or
overly sincere or overly earnest. I feel like our entire
twenties we were like making fun of people like that.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Ye meet them and you're like, there's anything.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
You're successful and you have a big career and you
and you are able to like engage an audience because
you like know what you're doing. Meanwhile, we're at home
being like idiot.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah. It's also really easy to be a hater when
you're in New York and like away from mid all.
Well yes, like now you're like at a party with
that person that you've talked about forever and you're like,
huh yeah, this changes things a little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, once I make icon, yeah, and they're.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Nice to you.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Do you feel like you went through a hater phase.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
No, Because I've just always been terrified of everybody and
so worried that I was going to accidentally offend anyone
or upset anyone or hurt anyone's feelings. And I started
really young, and I got lucky, I think, in this
business really early. So I was always operating from a
place of I don't deserve anything, and I'm sorry that

(19:50):
I got anything, and I'm sorry i'm here and I'm
sorry I'm alive and I'm sure I'm breathing and it
should have been you. Uh So I didn't really have that,
and especially like I definitely had people when I was
younger that maybe I was a little more a little
quicker to go like that person sucks, like privately, sure,
But as I get older, the more I'm just I

(20:11):
really am like everybody's doing their best and like even
if it's not, it's not for me. That's what people
love to say out here. They go, it's not for me, Yeah,
but you know, good for them, Like that's kind of
the meanest thing.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, I had such a righteous like I feel like
when I was younger, I was very much like it
is morally important to be critical because we have to
like like weed out the bad stuff to have like
a healthy culture, right to have like good you know,
to have like higher quality discourse and higher quality art,
and like there shouldn't it's literally like a bad thing

(20:45):
to take up space with bad stuff. Yeah, right, And
now I'm like it's a miracle anything gets made.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean say that. It's also like, I think, now
that I know more about the processes of things getting made,
I'm like, the amount of time it takes, the amount
of people you have to go through, the amount of filters,
inherently that will happen.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
But also the reason why, the reason why so much
bad stuff exists is because it was greenlit by people
that are not It's not like any of the artist's fault,
right yeah. And then it's like, okay, well, then your
mandate is to literally create farmer needs a wife, And
it's literally not the fault of the people making Farmer
needs a wife. It's like someone in the top was like,
that's funny.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Write that down.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's a job. Yeah, I think. And you know,
the longer you're in this business, you know how many
cooks are in the kitchen on anything. So any bad
movie you see, you're like, no, I wonder if that
would have been good when it was just a script.
I wonder if we just read this aloud in a room,
maybe this would have been awesome. But so many people

(21:44):
wrecked it with all kinds of casting choices and producing choices.
Like it's all and just the only thing I really
hate is when people don't work harder. They say I'm
a writer, I'm an actor comedy. I hate when people
say I'm a stand up and they don't do stand up,
Like that's the that's the stuff that I'm like, I can't.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
We were talking about this recently because there's a sub
sect of like, I don't know if I can go
into this gay guys who are just sort of like funny,
oh yeah, and then then they're sort of like but
what like and they'll be like, I'm a comedian and
sort of like yeah, like all gay guys are kind
of funny. Yeah, we're all comedians.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
So it was like we and how we sort of
feel the urge to gate keep that in a way
that's like both childish and.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, like what counts as what counts his work is
confusing right now because I was always you know, I
started doing comedy in Boston, which is so traditional and
so like you're gonna get up, You're gonna have a
punch set up and a punch. So I was I
think I really internalized that and was like, unless you
are getting up doing you know, fifteen ocle mikes a
week and doing set up punchline jokes that doesn't count
as comedy. And now it's like, well, if someone I

(22:58):
don't know, if someone's like spending hours editing some video
or something, who's to say they're not working harder than
I am? Right, writ like one thing in a notebook
on the subway on.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
The way shown right.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I always hated when there was any sort of uh
like alt comic disdain for road comics, because I've always
been a road comic and I was always but.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
You're a good one is the difference?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I mean, but maybe not always like I hope so,
but that's I was of that, yes, of like I
don't even think you're a comedian if you're not on
the road every weekend. Like I was definitely like a fucking.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
One of these guys. And I was the comic that
was like, if you're on the road, you're like a
hack exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, which was so annoying to me and I am
I was definitely more in the camp of like, but
could they do forty five? And like I was much
more over there, and I like so many alts comics,
like I think they're so brilliant and cool. And now
I'm like, there's room for everybody and whatever your approach is.
I think that's great. And then you just learned, you know,
all comics were multi minites, and we have one. We

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have one skill just stand up out here.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think that is so. I think it's funny to
be the alt comic that's sort of a hater. And
then through time you just inherently get more traditional for
lack of better word, and like, so now there's people
that like I'm sure are like more than me, that
are like, well, Sam the hack, like sellout what.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Is going on right now in Bridgewood.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
And it's like, you have no idea how I used
to pour water on myself like I did a damn
JFL audition. That's true, you did. They were mad at me.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Really, you sort of have a history of I'm doing
the things you're not supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Auditions the way my very first JFL audition I bombed
harder than I've ever bombed in my whole life. I did.
So I was doing like I was all so, I
was doing like characters and stand up and sort of
like going back and forth, and it was sort of like,
I guess I'll do the characters one. But they weren't
like tight like little UCB style characters. They were like
kind of wild and like I had this character called

(25:02):
the girl who touches her cup too much and says
million dollars. So I would have like a glass, like
a martini glass, and I would like just say three
words and be like like you me acopoco, million dollars,
and then I would sip and spill and go and

(25:22):
I would just like keep going and and like just
three things, million dollars and then spill in a different way.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And they were furious at me. They were like, why
are you wasting our time? Like it was I went first,
Like it was just like they have never been more
upset at a person in their lives.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, And I it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That having a sense of joy and a sense of
whimsy is criminalized in this country.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I think back on that and I'm still like, I
bet there's still people that hate me for that.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I think that that all the time, the things that
you have done, you know that in the moment, you're like, oh,
that was an embarrassing night, but there are people that
like put you on a list, oh.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, well, And that's what's so
hard about. I mean New York, LA. Like wherever you
are doing stand up comedy of any kind is like
it's easy to go. Nobody's thinking about you, like nobody's judging.
Everyone's judging you. Everyone is thinking about you, and one
weird interaction will decide what that person thinks of you

(26:17):
for years, until you're at a party and you make
eye contact with you and you say nice jacket and
they're like, oh, I guess they're nice, but they like
it will be like that someone didn't shake my hand
at the comedy store three years ago. I still think
about it and I don't know if they're mad, and
I don't know if it was just a germs thing.
It probably was, but I'm still.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Like during lockdown, you're like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
It was definitely twenty twenty one. Yeah, but yeah it's yeah,
it stressed me out. And the funny thing about all
comedy too, is like it is the stuff that like
other comics would laugh at because it's so you know.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
This is the trap is that you find yourself then
as an alt comedian, dare I say four other comedians
more so than you're performing for the audience. I actually
like this is one of the big things I've had
to like unlearn. I feel like the last few years
it's just like it's actually disrespectful to the audience to
do that.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, because a great bit that will work everywhere. Comedians
aren't gonna laugh hysterically that they're going to go, that's
fucking great, that's what they're gonna do, And that's you know, I.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Know, should we do for I have so much more
to say about this, but we I know, we sometimes
get into these vortex's of inside basebook.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I actually and we're like Larren, I know, we do
go Mark Maron mode, and I do like it. It's
like fun, but yeah, we can't go too far.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
We need Matthew said, we need to have Mark Maron
on the podcast and his topic needs to be Mark Maren.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, that's genius. I think you're doing.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Okay, did your show my show?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Is he not? Did he not?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
I think I did?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yes he did?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, But I don't think that's the
same as coming on this.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
To be clear, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
What I'm saying is like he's I don't know, doing
things that are in his podcast.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Agreed, just went to him.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
But you know what I mean, I feel like for
so long it was like he would like, I feel
like he has WTF he has a specials to me,
it's like a big step that he went and did
a game like he went and did a game show.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah and great. Yeah. He texted me afterwards and was like, see,
I can be silly. I wasn't your grace.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I mean talk about a true alt you know, legend.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
But was on the road every weekend, so you.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Know both sides, the true centrist. There is a lot
to think about. Okay, Taylor, I'll see you in Des
Moines for real. Oh god, Okay. Our first segment is
called straight Shooters, and in this segment, we're going to
ask you a series of rapidfire questions to gage your

(28:54):
familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. It's basically this
thing or this other thing. And the only rule as
you can't ask any followup questions about how the game works,
or we will scream at you in a way that
will violate all HR policies.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Probably thinking now, wait, I have a question, don't ask, don't.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Say without some of that discomfort. It's all about sitting
with a discomfort.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Will you tell me Taylor, I'm sorry, that's a question.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Okay, you're right, supporting PBS or suffering from ibs.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Supporting PBS.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Okay, Taylor. Intimate moments are intimate's donuts, Oh donuts.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Regressing into adolescents or obsessing over evanescence.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Regressing into adolescens uh.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
U ce la, or you seem a little gay.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh ucla. And I'm answering as if I know the rules,
and I think I know what the rules are.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Almost a question, but you know, stam it being self
deprecating on the stage, or being eviscerating on the page.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Investrating on the page, the Bible belt, the rust belt
or the Gucci belt.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Ooh, Bible belt chic.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Having a fully developed frontal lobe, or being a bully
because you're a homophobe.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
The second one, Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
The levees are breaking or the levees are making a
new family comedy. I'm of course talking about Dan and Eugene,
Dan and Eugene, Wow, Wow, Okay, Taylor.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
We rank our guests performance on a scale of zero
to one thousand doves. I thought that was a good performance.
I'm going to say that off the bat.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I'm gonna say that off the bat, I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Sure it definitely is in the seven hundred two thousand range,
which not everybody.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Not everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Oh my gosh, what did Kathy Griffin get?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, she got eleven hundred, but.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Before she even started, didn't even have to play.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
What do you think? You know, I'm gonna say nine
hundred and fifteen to nine.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I think that's fair. It's you know, it's an as. Okay,
you're getting you're you're getting into you pen.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, and I'm not asking yeah, but I think the rules.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Were Now you kind of ask questions, Oh, is.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
The is the point to pick the straighter thing?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
The point is basically that there are no rules, and
it's sort of like we are doing emotional terrorism on
our guests. So they each everyone sort of like settled
into it in their own way. Oh okay, and so
some you know, you have to tell a story, you
have to be confident. Well, it really is a performance.
It's sort of like a wor shock test of like

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it says something about you, which one.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
You Oh, so what does it say about me that
I'm like, I have to pick the straightest thing because
you said so you're how complicit are you in straight culture.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, it says road comic because you are because you
are like.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
You're like I was like, I know what it is.
That's so I couldn't just go and like this is
what I like, like that exactly. But some people do that.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
If you were like people do that, but pouring water
on yourself, you would be going in and like picking
something we didn't even say, like picking.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Something you did even say, do people do that?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
No one. People will say like neither, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh yeah, I know, I don't. I don't have that
sort of of us.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
For the for the thing we said. Rather than just
like accepting that worthy authority in picking one.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Some people try to do like a bit off of
what we said, and it's sort of like that's that's
actually incorrect. That is supposed to be you did say
rapid fire. We did say rapid fire.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh that's the other thing is some people don't get
the rapid fire part. And we'll like really think about
it and try to talk through each one, and we're like,
we have eight of.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
These to get should you get into the top. I'm
really excited for this topic. Actually, Taylor, please tell us
what topic you brought in a little bit about what
makes it straight.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
The topic I brought was rom coms because think about it,
every single one is straight. It speaks for itself.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's one of my favorite justifications for generally anything is
because think about it.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, I'm like, true.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, it's crazy to ask you, what is it about
rom comms that you think is straight?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Well, I think the idea of a rom com is
truly like has become nostalgic in the way that like
right wing people like are nostalgic about like traditional family values.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yes, like the way.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
People you know that New Sydney Sweeney Glen Powell movie
ever did so well. So it's so every interview it's like,
we need to bring back rom coms. Why are they gone?
Don't you guys remember Meg Ryan? And it's like we've
now been doing that for longer than rom coms were
originally popular. Yeah, we've now been saying we missed rom
coms and oh how amazing. You know, twenty seven Dresses
was longer than the like basically fifteen year period.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Citing twenty seven Dresses someone recently a friend Steve and
I liked it.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, like no, someone was literally like that was the
last one and the era ended there it was the
last great rom com and I was like, oh, interesting,
I'd never I.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Think that might be true about that, but I think
it set it up, set it up, So I never
said set it up. Is Glen Powell before he became
before it became big, you know, Capital G Capital p
Lucy Lou. Yeah, it's two bat.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I remember Zoy Deutsch. Yeah, Zoey Deutsch. Okay, so good.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
That one's very good.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
But no, they basically have been releasing them pretty regularly
this whole time, but there was just this idea I
understand that it was a little more regular in like
the nineties in the two thousands, and also that the
stars were bigger there, like it was literally Julia Roberts
doing it and not no offense.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Zoe de Dutsch.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I love her, I mean I wish she had been
in I really wish she had been in the New
One with Glenn Powell. I thought they were so good together.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I know, we love Sidney Sweeney, but I don't
know if I see her as a rom kam lade.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
She I love her to death. She saved my life,
of course, but I am starting to be like wait,
why do I love you again? Yeah? And I don't. Yeah,
I mean I hope to god I run into another
party and can make eye contacts. She's doing her jacket.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
She's doing a horror movie where she plays a nun.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Did you know that I did it? Just it's starting
to confuse me, the whole vibe.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I think she's great in like more dramatic hinge.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
She's actually not a comedian.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
No, as it turns out, it was between me and Sydney. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. That movie didn't quite hit for me.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's sort of what I've been hearing.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, okay, but everyone saw it.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, no, everyone saw it.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well I didn't say it, so, m Sam, what isship
with coms? I loved rom comms growing up when I
was complosit in straight culture, of course, but like yeahs,
and as an adult, I think I'm nostalgic for like
a few of them. Like I really like my best
Friend's Wedding best Friends, But it is a very straight movie.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Besides, well, you know, they get to have a little
gay guy.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
They do a little game.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
That's rare.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
They do sing. They do sing, that's true. But just
the whole premise of her being like, oh, actually I
do want that guy, and being in competition with another
woman who's much younger, who's a fucking child. When you
go back and watch it, you're like, I don't remember
this part where she quits school.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh my god, I know.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I love that one. I love the Meg Ryan ones. Yeah,
Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks can go wrong, can't go wrong? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm trying to think, like the culture around them has
changed a lot in like I'm thinking about like the
rom com, Like even the words like chick flick used
to mean something, yeah, and now now no one says
that in a way where I'm like, what is that
saying about?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I do think people don't say that because it was
decided that it was sexist.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Well of course, but I think I'm like, rhymes rhymes,
and I'm more like, it doesn't mean it's not true.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, it needs to be reclaimed, is the thing, because.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
That flick was. But we can't have chick flick exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, Girl Dinner doesn't even rhyme to watch all, meaning
my film.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well it was like created by men to be like condescended.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, it needs it needs to come back as an empowerment.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Narror and people did take down Girl Dinner after like
a week of it being popular. They're like, this is
an eating disorder, and You're like, it's a charcuterie board.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah right, yeah, it's I guess what I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
So before I was saying I can't remember if this
was off micronat, but I was saying that, Like one
of my sort of hatary opinions is when people are
nostalgic about that era of rom com, something that is
not discussed is how many of them are very bad,
like truly very I tried and no offensive people like
this movie. I tried rewatching How to Lose a Guy
in Ten Days.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh, it's horrible, horrible.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I tried to watch it and I was like, it's
it's it's a little so everything is so regressive. It's
so regressive.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
It's like dark.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's sort of like, oh, it reminded honestly brings up
like trauma. It's like, oh, this used to be culture,
and this was like how you were supposed to act
as a man and how you're supposed act as a
woman in a way that was psychotical.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Before Matthew McConaughey became an ironic version of it himself.
He was just like hot muscle guy, right, that's it. Yeah,
Like there was no irony in her being like hmmm,
I want man and then and then him just like
being like Muscley and southern and sort of Republican code.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
It is so funny to me that he I think
he he writes about that in his book, right, that
he started turning down millions of dollars because he didn't
want to do rom coms anymore.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, he wanted to do the Lincoln Lawyer, right, which,
thank god, thank god.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Alas So you sort of think I like the phrasing
that he's an ironic version of himself.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Well, I think, okay, it's sort of like one of
the few paths available to people of that stature of like,
I mean, it's like very different thing. But Nicholas Cage too,
is an ironic version of so many people that had
a big, big, big moment. Nicholas Cage is different because
he has more fun with it and he's more aware
of it, and he sort of has always been an
ironic version of himself. But I'm thinking, like even Brad

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Pitt is going through an extended period of being like
isn't it funny that I'm Brad Pitt?

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Isn't it funny that everyone's still okay with me even
though my kids don't speak to me.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, it's kind of like humor doing a humorous character
as a defense mechanism a little bit.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it works so well. Yeah, it's
weird that, like it's like, oh, okay, well he's self aware,
so what am I going to say?

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Right? Yeah, how do you guys feel about When Harry
met Sally? I love it, but so so problematic. It
is just men and women can't be friends the whole time,
and then is ultimately the case at the end.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I mean's like, yes, it's problematic, but it's so refreshing
to have very clear cuts like ideology. You're just sort
of like this that talk about like set up punchline.
It's like, okay, thesis, men and women can't be friends?
What is the outcome?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I also and I also kind of like it. I
feel like the like Harry is sort of like he
is supposed to be an asshole, so like him having
this opinion isn't like this is the correct opinion, that's true.
It's sort of like this guy's an asshole.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
It is the correct opinion as proven by the film,
right right, And they do end up together, so it's like,
how big an asshole is?

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I actually think you're pointing to something really interesting, which
is like it's almost like rom comms basically like ironically
confirm conservative family values ideas. Like it's sort of like
the ideal rom com is what it's like a career
woman that doesn't think she needs a man.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
But twist she does. Like it's literally that is what
the humor is. And sort of the plot of Madam
Web as well.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Well, of course some one of my favorite Adam Well
we saw we have five episodes talking about Madam Taylor.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
This is coming out, This is gonna come out in
a month or two, and this will be so irrelevant.
I'm gonna take this time and say run, don't walk.
Oh yeah, you have to go while that'still in theaters.
I'm actual possible. Oh yeah, we love Madam Web. I
mean talk about a great Sidney Sweeney but yes, no,
but I and but don't you think like that is

(40:56):
sort of like the humor And I think that's almost
okay because it's like we should have enough of a
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
It's not like people are being brainwashed, Like the audiences
are smart enough to be like, this is a movie.
It's not like I'm going to leave and quit my
job as a woman and try to marry Matthew McConaughey, right, and.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
It is a job. And yeah, but when I was
like a kid, I did feel like I do think
rom coms are a big reason that for years I
was like I need a man to choose me totally, totally,
which is humiliating.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, yeah, what was your favorite? I mean when Harry
Messally is my number one?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
I watch it every time. It like even kind of
reins like I am I love that movie. I know
I'm criticizing it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
It really shocked me because I had I watched it
for the first time, maybe like five years ago or something.
Same I was and it was like like I was
like it reminded me like a few other movies have
happened where I'm like enjoying, I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying and
then like at the end, I'm just crying, like fully
crying and can't stop. And it was like, wow, it
really got me.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, Sweet Home Alabama that I haven't.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Watched ann Oh does that hold up? I actually think it.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Does hold on. Yeah, I watched it a few months ago.
I was also on the road, so maybe I was.
I was sad. I rode glasses on.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I want to know what do you feel? Is like, like,
are the queer rom comps translating well? Is there a way?
Is there something lacking from the the sort of adaptations
for the queer ones.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
A lot of people hated Happiest season, That's true.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
But the thing is people hate I'm saying this as
a queer person who hates everything.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I'm not like judging, but it's like, yeah, it's different,
Like it's difficult to be like this is a crowd
pleaser for gay people. Yeah, because they're like, oh, you
think I'm going to be pleased, I'm going to be plased.
Do you think I'm going to be pleased? Like truly,
don't you. It's just like a different thing like straight people.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's like the way that's straight. Here's what I say
about straight people.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Their flexibility is actually really commendable because so often it'll
be like a woman drags a guy to something, a
guy drags a woman to a sports game, and everyone
just has to sort of be okay with like seeing
something they don't actually like in a way that actually
is harder for gay people, like I can't imagine someone
drag me to an event that I fully don't like

(43:16):
that I fully don't want to be at, and me being.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Like, sure, sweetie, no, I'm impossible.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I need to be doing something I want at all times.
It's horrible, So take me home for like thanks doing
is a nightmare.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, I like, what are they serving? Literally truly?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
And it's like, well, I maybe can make it.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Like I remember I used to I dated somewhere for
six years, was from LA, and we would visit as
visit their parents in LA, and they would be like, oh,
we're going on a hike, like a twenty five minute hike,
and I'd be like, I don't really like hiking.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Like if you need someone to do this with you,
we can find someone. Yeah, yeah, we find someone to do.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
There's something about like okay, so when you like start
being there, yeah, and you're like, okay, well I'm I'm
deciding to like pursue what I know I like despite
all the odds, here I go. And then it's sort
of like and now you want me to do you
want me to compromise. I just told you I'm not
compromising anymore. Yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Well, I'm being my full I'm showing up as my full,
authentic self, and now I have to go on a.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Hike and I do think, like I even feel like
then it becomes you almost get rewarded for like the
more like like self fulfilling path. You go down where
you're like, yes, I want now I'm learning, I'm this,
I'm this, I'm this, and it's like, oh cool, I'm
just I'm in such a journey of self discovery where

(44:37):
straight people like to be like I'm done, like right,
straight people almost have the opposite where they're like, yeah,
I was really into like punk music when I was
twenty two, but now I just cook. Now I just
turn on. No, it really is true.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
It's the news and there's something sort of refreshing about it,
like it's I think if you're straight, you basically until
the age of twenty six twenty seven, you're like, Okay,
well that was fun. Now time to go to church,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah. Yeah, it's such a different vibe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
But so to go back to the rom com thing,
I do think there's just a different like critical environment
that you're releasing a queer movie into than a straight
movie intwo and and like you sort of the politics
of queer relationships are so raw, like post marriage equality,
like in the midst of everyone figuring out, you know,

(45:30):
new ways of being in relationships and new ways of
loving one another and whatever. It is very difficult to
make like a very simple romantic movie that everyone can
agree is good, yeah, whereas the traditions are just way
more like well trodden for straight people. And it's like, yeah,
sure you can make a regressive rom com or a
feminist rom com, but it all sort of has the

(45:51):
same makings.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah yeah, Whereas like the gay guy romcom, you're like,
so are they open or not? Exactly? So are they
open or not? Why are they? Why?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
So one of them is muscular or are both of
the muscular? He's in the muscle guys. He's in the
muscle guys.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Why is he dating an a muscle guy? What is
the age gap? Like, oh, so he's a Hell's Kitchen gaate.
This doesn't speak to me, This doesn't yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
You know what movies great that just came out my
girlfriend I saw yesterday is Love Lies Bleeding.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I want to see that. I've been wanting so good.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I've been wanting to go to that alone while I'm
here as a sort of like punk ro like I'm
going alone to a lesbian movie.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Oh my god, it's so good and it's like it's
under two hours, which nothing is anymore, and it should
have been another thirty minutes, like it flies by. It's
so so good.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
It should win a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I think she should definitely get an Olympic gold medal.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I think she should get an Olympic Gold medal for
lesbian and I think she It really is commendable that
she she'll do one big budget thing because she needs
sucer she has to, you know, make money. But then
she always goes back to.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Does she need to make money though, because totally I
don't think she actually does need to make money. This
is interesting and what's the less like the big budget
thing she's done.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Charlie's Angels, which is a huge one.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Famously, I like Charlie's Angels. I liked her in it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
You should say I never saw it America.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
You are so many outfits.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
It was so fun that is like, you know, it
failed when I didn't see it, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
No, me too, because that is just sort of a
classic thing that maybe you and I would see like
as a joke.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
We didn't even do that. That's tough.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I mean she was in those snow white movies that
was a long time.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Was that a big deal? I never saw that.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I think there were big budget at least budget.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
And then she had the affair or something. I didn't
even think it was a full affair.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
But yeah, there was drama.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
There was drama.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
But I do like that she is a real uh
she's just a real indie girl at heart. And you
know what's beautiful on this podcast is that you can
find footage of me two years ago being like I
hate Christen Stewart. Yeah really, Well, I was rewatching the
Twilight movies and I was like these like trying to
like watch them sort of ironically, and I was like, no,
this is annoying to watch.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
There's not for you.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
And by the way, talk about movies that you think
would you could ironically watch, but they're actually just bad.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I look, I was eleven when those books came out,
so I read them in real time. So I can
ironically watch them with friends of mine who are the
same age, who went through the same thing, and go,
do you remember when this was our whole personality for
two years, like when we were children, and this did

(48:32):
it for us? Because it's fast, especially if you like
grew up religious and there's all.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
This weird abs.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah yeah again yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, it's it's crazy. Yeah, and just knowing how much
he hated doing it, like, it's I think they all
hated doing it.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, it's like fifty well I've never seen this either,
but it's like fifty shades of great. How famously all
of them hated.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I mean I tried to watch that. That's terrible. I
can't get through. I couldn't get through that one. I
mean I never read the books. Yeah, so you know
there wasn't.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Those books were Twilight fan fiction? Is that like spun
out so far from the shallow?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Wow? Okay, but yeah, now I just let the record show. Yes,
have you seen Personal Shopper? No, you told me that
when I hated on her scary movie?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Right, Well, it's sort of like more moody than scary.
She goes to France and talks to the ghost of
her brother. Okay, dead well ghost Yeah no, it's not
just a ghost identified a live person. And she's also
a personal shopper, so she's constantly going through these gorgeous
dresses for her. That's a big client. Okay, okay, rom coms.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Rom Coms. I feel that we've covered a lot trying
to think of like what we're missing in the general.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, okay, something about rom coms is the idea of charisma,
Like it really is like such a showcase for just personality.
Like think of a Julia Roberts or a Meg Ryan,
who are the other iconic? Sure Richard gear like he's
Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
It's about like falling in love with the actor. Yeah,
Race Witherspoon.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I mean, and I do something I feel like people
say now, which I guess I sem I agree with,
is that because everything is so like AI generated and
like someone is like scrolling through TikTok trying to find
what girl has the most likes, right, like where where
is the raw star power of a Julia Roberts?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Who has it? These days? Who has it?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I think Zoe Deutsch has?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
You do?

Speaker 3 (50:29):
I really did.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Fascinating to me.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, And I'm not saying I Actually the reason I'm
saying it toast name is because Zoe Deutsch is one
of those names I've been hearing for truly twenty years.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Really, I could not think of what her face looks like.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I'm literally gonna, oh, yeah, no, you'll see it and
be like, oh my gosh. Of course she did a
rom com. Yeah, like a Christmas rom com okay, which
is called something from Tiffany's I think, okay, and that
was cute.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Okay, interesting, that was cute.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Why do they always have the Wikipedia pictures be like, see,
I recognize her only from set it up because I
remember her being in stive.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I think she has rom com charisma. Okay, you heard
it here first, But I don't know who else. I mean,
it's hard because I feel like if somebody has it,
they get pulled into doing more dramatic stuff and then
you're like, oh they're not.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know who has it? Powell? I really think, oh yeah, yeah,
he's doing. I'm like, I can't think of anyone, Like,
I'm like, all I can ever think of is the
Euphoria girls.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I know. I'm like Woods India. Is India too serious
to do it?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I think she would.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Never Yeah, yeah, I think so. Emma Stone, Ryan Gossling.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Well, of course, but I would say maybe those are
the last those are the last leads. And of course
now they're too big to do.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah they were calm.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Oh speaking of have you seen Anne Hathaway.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Oh, I'm excited about that one.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I have literally should not be doing.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
So.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I was like, what, like evil contract? Did they signed it? Crazy?
And I celebrated it because I want to see it.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
I'm so excited for it.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Listen, I'm I'm all. You know, it's based on Harry Styles.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
It's like one Direction.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's like one direction fan.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
And they got Anne Hathaway. It's so well funny.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I'm sorry, but like the whole thing is like Anne
Hathaway literally looks like a Barbie doll and everyone's like
that old hag is dating Harry Styles.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
That ugly bitches are people saying no, not.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Like people, real people. But in the movie it's like
it's the whole thing is there's like an age difference
and she's like older.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
And people are calling her ugly. I don't. I feel
like maybe not, but you know what, between the line,
it's like I think maybe people like, you're a little
old for him, but no one's like, don't you think
that ugly?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
If Harry Styles in real life dated although I guess
he did dated someone older and people were rude to her. Yeah,
she's also stunning and gorgeous, but they were mad.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
At her because they were like, you left your husband
for him, right and true?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I mean, I love her, but doesn't have the Chrismave
and Hathaway.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Unfortunately, who does?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Who does?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Among us?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Who?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Among us?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
That was an interesting she did a few remember eleven
other drugs.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
I loved, loved they again that they're so okay.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Here's a question.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Have you seen the Breakup starring Jennifer Anderson and Vince Vaughan.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I have not, Do you have?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
You? No?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Okay, So I have no idea if it holds up.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I've seen clips of it on TikTok posted by straight
people who.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Are like really full like innovation of that movie, and
any you know, spoiler is that they are. They remain
broken up at the end, they don't get together. And
at the time I remember being like, this is the
most radical work of art I've ever seen, Like it
is literally a romcom where at no point they are.
They break up in the beginning, and the whole plot
I think is that they have to still share a house,

(53:38):
so they are like just hating each other, constantly trying
today blah blah. There was a moment where they could
get back together, but they don't, and then at the end,
I think the last scene is like six months later,
they ran into each other on the street and they're
just sort of.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Like, good to see you.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I saw that on TikTok. Yeah, and I saw the
part where she's like crying and upset with him for
trying harder. That's why I'm like, is that a comedy?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
You know?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
That's you know, it's a classic movie that is has
the beats of a comedy in his market as a comedy.
But I do agree with you not so much slapstick humor.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Having Yeah, it feels like a relationship film.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
But I think Love and Other Drugs is like that too,
Like it's not laugh out loud funny.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
I think he's selling dick drugs. He's selling my eggs.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I mean, that's just I'm laughing at I'm laughing And
once again, the dick is the thing that unites us all.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I feel this is one of those episodes where I'm like, damn,
you really think I don't consider myself like a hermit
of media, And I'm like, I haven't seen any of
these movies. Really, I've seen for almost.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
All the old ones, like the magrind ones.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Sure, sure you saw you've got mail.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I've seen you've got mail, Yeah, sleep Sin Theattle in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
But yeah, you've got mail as such like sort of
late nineties Upper West Side porn. Like you're just like
if only, oh, they should be teleported there.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I know they also, Okay, here's something that I feel
is lacking, even just the men being like normal hot,
normal hot doesn't yes anymore? Well that's everybody everybody whoas
are Tom Hanks?

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Who's normal hot? I think I think it might have
been Glenn Powell before he got ripped, like set it up.
He's not ripped yet, and he's just like, you know,
a good looking dude, but someone you could imagine working near,
having a normal talk. Yeah. But then in the new
movie you're like, who's this? This is not? Everyone was

(55:27):
so unbelievably hot in what's the new one called?

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Anyone? But you?

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Okay, I was gonna say Australia Hot date. I like
literally think of it. I literally can think of it.
They're so like hot in it. It just feels uncomfortable,
you know.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
It was also, if we're talking about recent ones, what
was also I feel like a pivotal moment is when
they tried to do one with Julia Roberts and George
Clooney Like.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah for older people.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, my grandma in theaters. Yeah, solid, you know, to
a half out of five, Like, you know, they wanted
to go on vacation. They wanted to go on vacation,
and I'm glad they got to. I am so happy
for that because I was worried. I said, I know,
I know, Julia hasn't been on a vacation a while.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Taylor. For season two of After Mind that you have
to pitch After Midnight Island edition.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yes, After Island, After Island.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Well, once when we had Jeff Probes on, which everyone
was fighting over.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, we got in big fights back backstage.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And once I met him, I understood why he's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
He's incredible.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
He's such a great guy and I can't but I
cannot imagine. Do they film that on an island? Oh yeah,
it's fully onland. Well, I don't know, nothing would surprise me.
He just lives on an island all the time.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Truly, for like half the year. He just is like
on an island.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Crazy, it's wild. Actually does he have a family. I
think he does and they're just on the island with him,
or maybe they're Like I should have asked him all
these questions when he was like does anyone have any
questions in front studio audiences, You're like, where's your family?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
What's your relationship with your family? Because I can't imagine
a case.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Wouldn't it be so isolating to be someone like that
who literally there is no other person in the universe
that has a similar job or life to him.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Oh, totally.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
He cannot relate to Like he can't have a conversation
like we can with another comedian and with another writer
where it's like, yes, we are different, maybe someone's more
successful or less successful, whatever, but you can find common ground.
He can find common ground with zero people.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
I mean Nikki Glazer Fuoy Island that's on the yeah
there you go.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yeah, okay, and and maybe it's maybe fuckboy Island and
dealing o'deal Island and Survivor Island. Oh multiverse, the island multiverse. Yeah,
that sounds really.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Nice, you know, putting something on an island really great
business idea. Ultimately, well, it's such we should do our
podcast on it.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
If we did Tradio Lob Island Edition, Yeah, I would
be having a blast. See you greet. Yeah. I One
thing I want to say about Jeff props being there
also was I was addicted to was that, like, you know,
we everything is like non judgmental towards the guests, and
then Jeff, He's so used to being like, well you're
losing and you're winning. Yeah, and he like did that

(58:12):
and I was like, this is intoxicating.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Yeah, No, it was really Yeah. He was fantastic and
so warm and just like yeah he really I feel
like anybody who wasn't a Survivor fan was like, that's
the greatest guy I've ever met. Yeah, Like I had
no idea.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I mean, you can't, you can't invent like that kind
of chrism with that kind of screen presence is just
once in a.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Generation, one generation. There was a point where Ismail and
Michelle handed him the wrong script and he was like,
are you just fucking with me, and I was like,
I can't believe I got to hear him say that.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Are you having fun?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah, Any questions, comments, concerns, No, because I feel like
it's fun, but also what do I know?

Speaker 1 (58:51):
No, I actually do want to use this time as
we as we go towards the end. I'm having a blast.
It's actually I've complained about moving to LA.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Right, which you should.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, that was like my first question. Like the one
time we all get to hang out, I was like,
who hates it here? And everyone's like, you know, it's fine.
I was like safe space, and I was like, I
hate it. I hate it so much.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It's a big adjustment, but getting used to it. But
the job I actually really enjoy. It's like very fun.
The room is great. We all get along really well,
and in a way because none of we didn't, like
I knew Joe before, and I knew Michelle.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Right, you know anybody away right yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And then everybody else was like strangers and it's like, oh,
this really works well. Yeah, And it's fun to write
for you. You're very flexible and it's cool to see you
do this.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I do make you explain to me internet terms. This week,
I was like, what is baby? Like, what exactly is Baby?
I'm like, is it like baby Girl? And Sam goes,
I mean it's you're younger. It's like it's like baby Girl,
but you're younger. And I was like, oh, okay, great,
like I understood.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I mean it's funny to age into being someone who
actually does learn about Internet stuff, like from a show
like After Midnight, Like I remember when the original at
Midnight was on being like, well, I'm on Twitter all day,
so like this is for old Like this feels, you know,
sort of like explaining something I already know or something,
whereas now like when you explain a trend, I'm like
writing it down, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I haven't

(01:00:12):
heard about this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
And there's so many different like pockets, especially of TikTok,
Like I sent Joe Firestone a trend that I've maybe
only get sent to me. Have you seen the ones
where it's like ask your friends which one you are
and it's a slideshow and it's just like different colors
of green, or like different seasons or like one was
like what's your set? It's like Pirate Mummy, you know,

(01:00:38):
fucking vampire and I've been sending her so many because
I'm like, I was very sick last weekend and I
was like, I don't know if this is anything. I'm
really ill, but maybe this is something. And then I
just started sending her a lot. I was like, I
hope you like just getting these, and I go, I
would like to be you know, I would like to
be Emerald. I am Olive. Unfortunately, like it gets very addicting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I mean, I can see how that would be a
fun thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
The power of personality tests and anything personality test oriented,
just like yeah, we always just want to be like
I pick five. These five are me, And that's what
it is. It's a personality test that it's like don't
want to take. And they're getting Like you would think
that as we get further along in the history of
the Internet, they would get more complicated and more interesting,
but it's literally becoming just people grunting at one another,

(01:01:22):
just sort of like which corner of the room are you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah, yeah, people are getting lazy with the people are
getting so lazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But like I'm seeing have you seen the Instagram ones
that are like choose five and it's just like one
hundred random musicians, not even like it'll be like Mariah
carry Iron Maiden.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Like yeah, oh my god. That actually bumps me out
because sometimes I'll see like people that I think are
cool do it and I'm like, oh, another person has fallen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, oh my god. I've been so scared to post
anything on TikTok since I started this job. Oh I'm
sure so, Like I'm so intimidated by the writer's room,
Like I just want everyone to think I'm cool because
everyone's like younger and cooler than me. And I'm like,
I can't do a trend like my social media man
just like, let's do this trend on TikTok. And I'm like, you, guys,
I can't because everyone will see because it's their job
to follow me. And I can't go in and show

(01:02:07):
my face and just be like, yeah, well, I'll just
work in comics out here. And I just lip synced
something that morning. It's so embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It's social media in general, is it's a shameful place.
It's so hard to do it with time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
We got to move on. We got to go back
to the island. Honestly, we need to go back to
the island.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
But like I feel like COVID was a huge shift
for people being haters about like posting clips online first
stand up, because then COVID happened and it was like
everybody just do what you can to stay afloat, and
people were shitting on, you know, those of us who
were posting stuff, and then later on we're like, hey, so,
how who films your stuff? Like everybody came around and

(01:02:49):
was like, oh, I should have been doing that because
now everybody's selling tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
It's actually crazy how well it worked. And I never
posted clips, and I'm like, well, now it's too late.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Like no, it's not too late. No, it's not too late.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
And unfortunately, well maybe I'll start, but I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I mean, I honestly, I kind of love that you
can get great clips yourself and then you don't have
to wait for a late night set and that like
I've discovered people that way just because they came up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
It's funny, like you you see, you know, when you
see someone do it poorly, er when you see a friend,
you're like, oh god, how embarrassing. And then literally as
a viewer, you do discover people and you're.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Like, oh wow, that was great. I mean when we
were going on tour and like looking like local local comedians.
That's how we found them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
We found them on what are we gonna do, Like
go do like a scouting trip and find you know,
Seattle comedians. No, we would just like look them up online.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Yeah, what are you gonna do? Ask people? And then
they're just going to tell you their friend they come
and it's terrible and like, Okay, that's the wrong person.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
No, we need to really, this is we're bad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
We're bad. Job we always have been. I mean that's
part of our charm, part of our charm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
No, I'm always impressed by people who succeed and didn't
have to do any of the embarrassing things that the
rest of us had. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yeah, the more I've always been like, yeah, I was
like I'm going to do be that, and it's like no,
you're not, Like it's it's you got to be embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
You have to be embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
There's no way to be embarrassing. Yeah, cheers to that.
Cheers that, Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Any final thoughts on rom coms.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Oh, I'm trying to think if I forgot any It
does seem crazy that there aren't more queer ones.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
I mean I think they're really rushing them out, Like
we've even mentioned so many and all of them came
out in the last like three years.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Well, I know, that's what I'm saying. Besides this, there
was that one, is it? Maybe I do the one
with uh Piper Parabo. Yes, where her flower person at
her wedding?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yes, yes, and the cover is her holding the hands
of the other woman behind the groom or whatever. I
can't remember. Kasska's stein is great. Also, there used to
be just like an industry of literally like you know,
you go to the LGBT sect of a blockbuster and
there will be like there's this one called Trick and
it's with like two gay guys that are dating and
one of them is trendsatory spelling, and like, I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Mean that's a premise.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
They were like gay movie Festival, Like there was this
like there were these like B movies that were basically
like gay rom comms that would never be shown at
like AMC.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
But it was, you know, our culture. It was a
beautiful culture. It's a beautiful culture. Should we do our
final segment? We should?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I'm I don't have one, but I will think of one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I have one, Okay, Taylor A. Our final segments called
shout outs, and in this segment we pay amosh the
grand straight tradition of the radio shout out by giving
a shout out to anything that we are enjoying. People, places, things, ideas.
Imagine it's two thousand and one and you're at TRL

(01:05:52):
shouting out to your squad back home, and we will
go first. I actually have one that you better believe
is catheta related. Are you ready? Let's do it. What's
up freaks, lusions and perverts around the globe. I want
to give a huge shout out to baggy pants.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Baggy pants are trendy, trendy, trendy, and I could not
be more grateful because you know, if I had a
catheter in two thousand and seven, honey, I'd be suffering.
You'd be seeing the pouch through the damn skinny jeans.
Because I have baggy pants. I'm completely camouflaged. No one
knows a thing. I sort of you know, when he
told me I would have to wear this till Monday,

(01:06:27):
I thought, well, this is the worst news I've ever
received in my life. And now I'm sort of like whatever,
who cares? I can wear this for another week. Let
me out and about no one has any idea. I
don't need to pee because of and I can't and
I actually will put sort of being the whole time
into my vouch and my baggy baggy pants. So shout
out to baggy pants, I love you, And shout out

(01:06:48):
to trends.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Whoo whoo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Oh wait should I change my last Okay, I'm gonna
do two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Get rid.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Oh my god, what's up cheekas and Cheeko's out there
in all the land, especially everyone nominated for Academy Awards tonight.
I want to give a shout out to, first of all,
the idea of any Swaz salad. I have been eating
so many fast, casual salads while here because I'm just
sort of on the go as a busy, professional, successful comedian,
and I have become partial to the tender greens and

(01:07:17):
the Swaz salad. We're talking seared tuna, We're talking potatoes,
We're talking olives, we're talking green beans. I repeat green
beans the French snap when they came up with that one.
And my second shatter is I want to give a
shout out to the act was via Fermiga as I
said before we started recording, I recently watched Up in
the Air and which she is incredible, and she's also
famously on the depadded, we need to bring her back

(01:07:40):
and get her out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Of sort of the horror movie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
She's great on horror movies, but we need a we
need her in a sort of I'm trying to think,
who like an older woman, who's a boss and who's evil,
But then at the end you figure out it's because
she had to sacrifice so much. We need a big,
a good, meaty role for Via Fermiga. We need to
get her in a in a you know, Steven Soderberg movie.
We need we need a Via renaissance, a vea stance.

(01:08:06):
And that is how I feel. And shout out to
Up in the Air and shadow to Jason Rightman, the
director who would direct her both Up in the Air
and the film I recommended last week, which is Young Adult.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Shout out for me. No, that was really we've been
doing this before.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
You're okay, uh, can I come up with something from
the episode?

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
You always come up with the loose?

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Okay, great, very loose. I'm gonna give a shout ou.
I'm gonna give a shout out to two things. One
getting enough protein, which is unfortunately very helpful. I really
didn't want that to be true, but it is fucking sucks.
And I'm also going to give a shout out to
Christen Stewart for doing such a great job and Love
Lives Bleeding and making Sam come around as a hater. One.

(01:08:53):
Sam over very impressed. We love you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
I can't wait to see Love Lies. That's gonna be fun.
And there's the other.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Lesbian movie that Ethan Cohen directed. Do you know about that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Oh the dolt, drive Away Doll, Drive Away Doll.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
That was not good, which was so disappointing. Yeah, it
was really dispassing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I don't want to say it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
That's how I felt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
But maybe wait I heard it's funny, but no, okay,
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
It was one of those things where I'm like, this
was so close, you know, where it just didn't come together,
which was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Maybe the true brothers need each other, the Cohens, I think, So,
where's that rom com?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Yeah, where's Brotherly Love by the Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
That's how we queer it insual.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Well, Taylor, this has been an absolute delight.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Watch I'll say it. Watch after midnight.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Yes, thank you so much for the plug.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Thanks for doing this, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yes, whenever that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Whenever that happens and checking out from Straight to Lab HQ.

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