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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Podcast starts now. Hello everyone, and welcome to Stradio Lab.
We are coming at you by coastally once again after
our string of hit recordings in New York City.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We are coming at you by coastally on a beautiful Sunday,
and I am leaving for it, Dahlia tomorrow. I'm going
on a vacation, as is my birthright. You're allowed as
a gay man based in ban I actually have a

(00:54):
message to the Spin Drift team, and I want to say,
this is disgusting, y'all. What do better? Which one all
spin drift? Not all spin enough? No we have I
can't do it anymore. Either something is a seltzer, or
it is a juice, or it is a mocktail, or

(01:15):
it is a cocktail. This weird. They are being so
toxic in wanting to have it all, and I cannot
do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I could not disagree with you more. I think we
need more innovation in the drink space. I think there's
obviously so much space between juice and soda and water,
and they are finding that space and they're exploring it
in a way that is like thank you, I see.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's so funny to me. I'm like all the obviously
defined things, whether it's a coke, a seltzer, a water
like I would always rather have that than something that
is somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Have you had the blue one, the lemon one?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I have not had the lemon one. But once again,
take a seltzer, take a lemon, squeeze some of it
in there. Mix, mix, mix, Maybe we're talking a mint leaf.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Look, not all of us can get back to me
a fresh garden in our damn apartment.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sign up for sign up for uh farm to people?
What is it called? There is a service so you
can sign up for a few live in New York
City farm to people. I believe it's called get some
fresh herbs, stick them right in the glass, ice lemon,
maybe a little lime, seltzer, put a little straw in there.
It's time to party.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
They are always innovating with new delivery services over there,
aren't they.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
They certainly are. I just yeah, I really, I'm really
sorry if they're an advertiser. And I actually bet you
that the people that work at spin Drift are really cool,
and I bet you I would get along with them
in real life, which is why it so pains me
to be anti spin drift. I think my personality is
very spin drift, how so, because I actually think I

(02:56):
am someone who can't commit to one thing or the other,
like I am half juice have Seltzer.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So do you think you disliking Spindrift? Is it's pretty
self hate?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, it's self hate.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think it might be. I think I think it
might be. I think it might be in the in
the same way that actually sometimes I feel like, uh,
despite the fact that I do think I have strong
personal politics, I'm not always the bravest person in terms
of like getting out there and uh and taking a
strong stand, and sometimes I feel some guilt about that.

(03:27):
I think maybe what I'm responding to in the I
guess uh sort of centrism of the Spindrift project is
that I see a little too much of myself in it,
and I wish I could be more proudly leftist.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Well, I think you saying like the employees at Spindrift
are probably pretty cool was actually really eye opening for me,
because I was like, now, that's a fun career. Like
if you work at Spindrift, you're like you get to
be kind of like at a party, get to be
like I actually work at spin Drifts, Everyone's like, oh fun.
Everyone's sort of like it's not like, you know, if

(04:05):
you work for like Coca Cola, it's sort of like, oh, like, yes,
we all love Coca Cola, but.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
It is kind of bad that you're like poisoning.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
People, right, No, totally, that's not good.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
And then if you were like kind of water, if
you work for like bottled water.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Like Evyon, bad for the environment.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's bad for the environment.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
But if you work for spin Drift, it's like, oh,
good for you.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, it's sort of like working for eight. Well, it's
a little bit like working for a twenty four.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes. Absolutely, it's the only ethical soda I know.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know, And you know what that might be why
it's so disgusting, because actually you need soda to be unethical.
Like the reason that I coc is so delicious it
is because it's killing you from the inside and actually
rotting all your organs.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I have a friend who I heard via a third
party at some point was consulting for nuts dot com
and her job was to think of what to put
in the different mix mixed bags. And I said, now
that is a dream job.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, that's rom comm job yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
God, and she like can never get the combination quite right.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then she meets a guy and she like, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, and he's like, my dad always did this. He
always took fas shoes with.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
This and not just that. But they're different enough that
she realizes sometimes you need like a little bit of
dried fruit and a little bit of nut.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah. That's a beautiful little love story anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Sorry, if you work at spin Drift, I'm seeing here
it's non gmo, no sugar added, carbonated water, concord, grape juice,
lemon juice.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
And congrats on the canned design, you guys.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Kind of no, you absolutely ate that down and congrats
on the flavors totally in the name. You know, it's
rare that a brand, a new brand, makes an impact.
Spin Drift I like, I love that. I like it.
I like it more than all the pro biotic sodas
that are all named like pop pop, Holly Lollipop, don't

(06:04):
like that, Willy lolligag No, talk to me like an adult.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, And honestly those I hate those. Those are like
just I have soda no.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
No, I agree, also, get can someone make a good
ginger ale. Who's listening? Someone make a ginger ale that
tastes like it's burning my throat because of how ginger
it is. I want it now, and I don't want
too much sugar in it, and I don't want too
much pulp in it.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And what's the and what's the deal?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So when you get like a ginger beer in a can,
why is the can as big as my thumb?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I not even why. By the way, when you're on
a plane and you order a selter and they give
you one tiny seltzer that's the size of one of
those Tonic waters that you have for Gin and.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Tonic, it's insane.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
What do you think? I am? Polly Pocket. So this
is a callin show.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
This is a calin show.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
We are ready to take your calls from our beautiful
number three eight five k guys.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, and actually want to just play the first one?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, I hit it?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Hi, Sam and George, This is Alison calling from Vermont
Place that Sam has famously hated on on the podcast,
but differ. Just calling because me and my girlfriend Robin
are big fans of the podcast, but we're very unlikely
fans because we're.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
We're both butch lesbians, like you know, Lesbian's not that unlikely,
I guess. But we're a butch.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Lesbian couple and we live out in the sticks and
roll Vermont.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
We don't have any social media. We are both big
into like wandering in the woods and playing in the dirt.
So that means that since we're still like huge fans
of Stradia Lab, most of like our like cultural knowledge
these days we actually get from you guys on the podcast,
like we know about things that are happening in like

(07:54):
the cultural world, I guess, like in a city, or
something people are doing in the cities that people are
talking about in the cities because of you guys.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
And so I was wondering if there are any other
things that you think we should know about that you
want to shout out for us. So please educate, educate
some rural Vermonters about what needs to be known, what
needs to be known by by the world.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Okay, I love you guys.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah bye, Well an amazing call. I first of all
want to defend myself and say that I don't hate Vermont.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I love Vermont.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I go to the gay swimming hole there and I
celebrate it. It is a bit boring and that it
can be jarring, and you know, you think you want boring,
but then you're out there and you're like, well what
do I do? Literally, and then you're ending up watching
the Idol while you're on vacation in Vermont because you
crave sort of glossy something.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's funny because I think your reputation is like that
you are more of like the one to go to
a to Vermont swimming hole, but you also are in
fact so much more city than I am, and that
when you're there for over thirty minutes, you are like
literally in tears and you're needing to watch something on HBO. Max.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, it's really it's tough because I love the idea, of.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Course of being alone in the woods, but then it's like,
but not, I don't actually want that, like I love them.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
No, of course, of course, I want to say before
we answer this question, like for two rural lesbians to
call in, be so effusively nice and then ask us
to tell them what culture they need to know is
like when I started this job, that was my biggest dream,
the idea that like a really kind butsch lesbian is like,

(09:52):
all right, well you know these these are gay guys,
like their role is to teach us about pop culture.
So come at me and to be there with an
open mind and an open heart, knowing that they their
vibe is more going into the woods, and our vibe
is more HBO Max.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
So okay, what culture today May twenty five? Like, what
culture do these rural vermontors need to know about?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I think the big one is literally just all summer
Addison Ray. I think that's like the biggest No, that's
the biggest one because I think that's like a nice
She's obviously like has mainstream appeal, but is like not
full mainstream yet, And so I think it's fun to
be on the like for a rural Vermont lesbian, you're

(10:41):
gonna be like, look at what I'm doing. I'm listening
to Addison Ray, and I know that I'm in Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I think that you need to be able to recognize
Tom Brown on the red carpet.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
You have to pronounce the way there, you have to.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Pronounce the love correctly, Tom Brown. Listen to me. If
something is very tailored but kind of weird and it's
like basically black nyvy white red.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, and it's kind of look for the little stripes.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
A little fascistic look for the little stripes. That's gonna
go ahead and be Tom Brown.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
What else? What other cultures do they need to know?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
The Can Film Festival, Yeah, is happening right now. It's
gonna be over by the time you're listening to this.
You're gonna wanna get your riffs in about Yeah, I
get your effins about. No, here's something you need to
know about standing ovation as I can. They're greatly exaggerated
because actually, at these days everything gets a standing ovation.
So you'll hear, oh, this got a seven minute standing ovation.

(11:40):
I can not that impressive means nothing, means nothing, okay.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Sort of the participation trophies of Can yea actually okay.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Huge thing you need to know is that culture used
to be more streamlined and now it's more fractured. So
so there's all every everything is niche and there are
niche communities. And that's why Pete Buddha Judge has to
go on like a podcast hosted by a comedian who
does jokes where he like makes fun of different races.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, that's why Bernie Sanders has to do that as well.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's quite sad, is there, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Nicole Scherzinger used to be in the Pussycat Dolls, but
now she's Revelatory and Sunset Boulevard, which is not a
very good musical, but this production is actually kind of refreshing.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
And get ready to feel complex about Lord?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Right, So the thing with Lord.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Okay, because the thing with Lord is that her gender
is expanding, but she's also tying it to her album
Rollout in a way that's very sort of sometimes feels cynical,
but sometimes you're like, but she like she should be
able to talk about it, but then it's so tied
to the album that you're like, what's is this just
for attention?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
What's going on here? Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And we're also in a place where, you know, the
LGBTQ plus community is scared of putting out the wrong
messaging because there's danger out there, and so when someone
like Lord is saying, you know, is off message, everyone's like, Lord, Ella,

(13:15):
not now, and you're not from here, but we're gonna
need to stand message.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
We're gonna need to stay on message.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
And you know, people will be mixed about her music,
but I think it's best to take a strong stance
in any direction. Don't be the spin drift either love
or hate. I'm choosing love and Lord please come on
the podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Correct. I would say that, I mean, is there anything
obvious that we're forgetting?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I don't know, let's move on. Okay, it's I'm like,
realize it's when we record just the two of us
on a Sunday zoom. I'm like, I'm like so comfortable,
and I forget. I do forget that. It's this is
for public consumption.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Oh another thing, look up Pink Panthers.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, you're gonna want to look her up.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, look up Pink pan threads.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Maybe read the wiki for her, just a little miss Pink. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And also I would base, I would basically watch the
movies of Ariast and form any opinion on them.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, now's the time.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Now's the time.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
And I'd say, download okay lou.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, download Oka l o u is how it's spelled.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think you're gonna want to put that up when
it comes to the New year. You're gonna say, and
this was actually my favorite album of the year, And
I think that'll give you some real credibility.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Mm hmmm. Okay, Oh, you know, before we I want
to say, we got a ton of calls from lesbians
and otherwise queer women, specifically about lesbian culture. I think
we don't want to push our luck too much by
commenting too much on lesbian culture after we hosted an
entire lesbian lab show. Uh, but I do want to

(15:18):
very quickly shout out some of the calls we got.
So let's see. Someone asked, is political lesbianism back? And
by that she defined it as like not sleeping with
men by choice, the sort of like not like I
was born this way and men are disgusting, but like

(15:38):
I am, I could sleep with men if I wanted to,
and often do want to, but I'm choosing not to
do that as a politics. Well, so the question is
is that back? So that was a great question. Oh yeah,
Someone says, like someone asked us someone just went to
a new lesbian bar and she said it was just
completely vibeless and terrible, and she basically wants us to

(15:59):
talk about like why lesbian bars have no vibe. Again,
we are not sorry. I'm being actually poisoned live on air.
We don't want to comment on that right now.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I want to comment on that right now, but I
do have one quick thing.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I saw friend of the pod Casey Jane Ellison this
weekend and there was a we were talking about lesbian
bars and gay bars, and an interesting theory was pitched,
which is that, like a gay bar is better when
it's owned by a lesbian, and a lesbian bar is better.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
When it's owned by a gay guy.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I would even go.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Some distance from the community and like really run it correctly.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I would frankly go so far as to say a
gay bar is better when it's owned by a woman
of any sort, even a straight woman. True, true, And
I will say, you know, Julius is owned by a
straight woman, and she's a straight Greek woman, and so
make of that way you will. That's the truth.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, So shout out to all the lesbian questions. We
appreciate them, and we will not be commenting further.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
But maybe in the future we will. We're not we
know that our role is to comment on all LGBTQ plus,
of course, but I think we were I think we
are respectfully not making ourselves arbiters of lesbian culture.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah at this point, at this point, okay, next.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
Call, Hey, Sat and George.

Speaker 9 (17:18):
I had a question for y'all, how do y'all feel
about Paris Hilton.

Speaker 10 (17:22):
I think that's all the contexts you need.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
How do we feel about Paris Hilton? Well, I think
I think we both agree on this one. H it
was fun for a second.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think I say congratulations on all you've done mm hmmm,
and goodbye for now. Next no, I would say forever. Actually,
if I may be so bold, I would say thank
you for everything you've contributed. Have fun living a private
life from here on out.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Do you know the like like carbon dating, like a
like a half life where like how long it is.
It's like there's like half as much carbon I feel
like Paris Hilton's kind of that, Like like the first
time around it was like, wow, this is so of
the moment. So now she's so ye two Q. And
then like now the reboot of Paris Hilton, it was

(18:17):
like it had half as much juice and it was like, yeah,
it's like almost like it's fun, but it has half
the impact, and it's like it's only going to keep deteriorating.
Like I do think in ten more years she'll come
back again and it'll be like a quarter of the original.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I want to say, part of my current aversion to
her has to do with the fact that, as listeners
of the Patren know, I had a six month freelance
job that was in Penn Station, and out of my
window at work I could see this giant billboard for
Hilton Hotels. They did a campaign with Paris Hilton. I
don't know if this made it to Los Angeles or

(18:54):
the state of California, but I did not recognize this
big campaign featuring Paris Hilton. And now what we have
here is reclaim. Paris Hilton has been canonized so much
that she's no longer an embarrassment to the Hilton name
and like a problem child. She's actually so mainstream pop
culture that they are reappropriating her as like a positive,

(19:16):
as a positive spokespirston for the Hilton family. And to that,
I say, you know, please respect me as a consumer,
like I can't, we can't be. You can't be selling
back Paris Hilton to me in a Hilton ad and
expecting me to then want to go and check into
a Hilton Like.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
No, no enough, her doing that album last year, like
it's like, we can't do this anymore.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
No all right? Onto Actually talented women in music with
the next question.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Hia, Sam George. I have recently become enamored of playing
your little time game with any group of three things.
But I simply think there has to be a better
word than heim lick. Just so, I thought about the
word geography, which I think is like books about saints,
so like heimiography, writing about three sisters who say perhaps Anyway,

(20:09):
my question is heimiography or heimlick. I guess, And I
don't think you've done this before New York, LA, Chicago.
And then also for my own purposes, the second tier
of cities that cause lots of discourse Boston, San Francisco, DC.
Me know what you think?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Okay, this is amazing, what an amazing question.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Amazing question. I what do you think about the name
of the game? I just can't. I haven't got it.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm like it rolls off the tongue.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay, so we're just taking with heimlick. Yeah, okay, all right, heimlick,
New York, LA, Chicago.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I almost think I think Danielle is Chicago because she's
like like of the she's like of the earth, Like
she's like she's like putting in the work. Yeah, He's
like I'm here, like I'm the backbone. I think Alana
is maybe LA because of being in movies, and you
think ST is New York.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yes, why because she's like a West Village girl.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
A little.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I think ST's got edge. I think ST's like, you know,
she's She's not afraid to ruffle some feathers.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I see see. I think my only argument against that
would be Alana is an IT girl, which to me
reads more in New York than LA. Like Alana to
be amused for Paul Thomas Anderson. I know Paul Thomas
Anderson is very LA, but but spiritually he feels very
New York to me, like his vibe feels more in
New York. And I think SD is just so at

(21:45):
home in Silver Lake, floppy hat like well, plus she's blonde.
Plus she's blonde. We don't have to agree, but I
think that would be my that would be my point.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, you know we're getting I went to that party
the other night where they were Djinghu and it's I'm like,
we're one degree away from home.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
At least, or at most. Tell everyone what SD's first song.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Was when she DJed girls Just Want to Have Fun,
Classic Classic, It was fun?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is choosing that as your first song in your DJ set,
more La or New York. I would say more La.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
It's more La. Yeah, you're right, You're right, and I'm
gonna agree with you.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, okay, all right. I mean, Danielle being Chicago is
obviously shocking, but I can't it's too late at this
point to change that joints.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but what else could
she be?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, okay, let's do Boston, San Francisco, DC. Okay, well,
this is insane, This is really really challenging.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't know, this is really challenging. Okay, daniel I'm like,
none of them? Are any of them?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Danielle is DC?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Really?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think Danielle is DC because she's like, again, she's CEO,
she is Nancy Pelos, She's the Nancy Pelosi. She's like
speaker of the house. She's the one that pulls the strings,
she's the producer. I know they all produce, but hear me.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Out is SD Boston?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I think, oh god, you know, I think SD is
like the coolest girl at BEU.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I see that.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
And then I think Alana is Alana just left San
Francisco for Oakland and lives in like a really cool
neighborhood and goes to like a really queer friendly hairdresser
that works at meta, but works at meta. Okay, next question.

(23:50):
All right, this one is a.

Speaker 11 (23:52):
Big Sam and George big fan of the pod. So
I often think about your theory of Lizzo's path and
the different like career milestones where celebrities and creators have

(24:14):
the option to make one choice or another, and I
wanted to see if you guys have any thoughts on
different crossroads that I feel like a lot of creators
are running into nowadays, the social media where somebody who
is beloved by like a group of fans who maybe

(24:37):
have an identity that's like a little quirky, like a
little indie, and then as the creator becomes more and
more famous and commercially mainstream, all of a sudden, everyone
all at once seems to find them really annoying and egotistical. Okay,

(25:00):
I feel like Tycho y TD hit this point. I
feel like Lyn Manuel hit this point, not even saying
that I feel that these people turned cringey, but it
does seem to be the general view that many have,
and with the White Litis finale, it sort of looks

(25:23):
like maybe Mike White is about to hit that point.
So I was just wondering if this is a theory
that you guys have any thoughts about, and kind of
what would you call it? Along the same lines as
like Lizzo's path, like is there a term for it?
And maybe are there others that you can think of

(25:45):
who have fallen victim to this decision point? Okay, thank
you for making this thought probably a lot more eloquent
than I did.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Bye, guys, love you of all.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Never say that you're not eloquent. You fucking crushed that
you ate that that call was so to die for
and well thought about. I immediately I think of like
a Jennifer Lawrence for this type. I think of Anne Hathaway.
I think I do think our society has a cruel

(26:23):
way of building people up and then hating them for
the reason they built them up in the first place.
And it's like it's not fair.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Why did you love them? Then? I don't know what
I would call this this phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I think the Jennifer Lawrence thing is really uh apt. Yeah,
It's like I'm trying to use j Law as a pun,
like the Jaylaw.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh wow, the Jay law, you.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Know what I mean, Like it's like, are you being
cracked down by the J law? What I love that
one would use for a law like I love.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I'm also thinking of like there's something here's the phrase
I was thinking, you know, like expired quirk because it's
like it is fresh.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
And you're like, oh I love this, I love this,
and then something it goes bad, Like.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You're right, that's exactly what it is. It's like his
quirk expired.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, so just.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Hearing this off the top of my head, Zovida Chanel
of course.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
And I think she then went in a completely different
direction because I think at some point she realized the
quirk expired and was like, right, well then I'm just
going to be kind of a normal woman.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well, and the thing with with this, I do think
people know that one's quirk has an expiration date nowadays. Yeah,
but I think it's causing people to not have quirk.
I think people like Mikey Madison is so like I
am no personality, like I don't have one.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Sure, but I don't think that's like a strategic move
she's doing, and she's like hiding her quirks. I think
that's simply who she is.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think she's hiding her quirk.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Do you think she's hiding her quirk?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I think she has quirks that she's hiding.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
That is fascinating. That is, you have an optimism that
I wish I could have.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
You think she's just a plain girl.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't think she's a plain girl. I think she
is a terrific artist and actress. But I think she isn't.
I don't think she has like a really strong personality
because I think she's been acting her whole life, and
that's her whole life, and that's who she is. I
don't think she is a Jennifer Lawrence of a Zoe Deschanel,
A you know, a Charlie XCX. Like I think she

(28:34):
is just girl actor actor girl, actor girl. I have
one that I actually think is fascinating, which is fran
Lee Bowitz. Oh don't you think she It's like she
flew too close to the sun. Her quirk didn't expire
for generations, and then I think over the last couple

(28:55):
of years, a new generation of consumers has come in
and they're like, that's enough out of you.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, there is something where like the mediums have changed
so much where it's like everyone is friendly, yes, exactly,
and it's like, okay, so you're cranky. You're essentially doing
front facing rants about like Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, but you're charging for them and you're at the
ninety second Street why a big hall?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, and we're supposed to treat you like you're better
than like.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
That literally twing. It's like, yeah, how about actually sit
down and write a book. I know you've had writer's
block for sixty years, but it's that's sort of what
it's going to take for me to pay money to
engage with your work.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, that is really interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Someone that's fascinating, and I wonder what you think of it?
Like where are we with Charlie? Like how has her
quirk not expired?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
She this it needs to be examined.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
She's like an evil genius.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
She is so good at it.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think I don't think it's expired because she's like
kind of refusing to be flat, Like she's like she
could just be like I I'm just cocaine and sunglasses,
but then like she sometimes will be like actually I'm
not like I'm this now, and it's like, oh, I
didn't expect that, Like she she doesn't go two dimensional
with it.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
No, it's true. And this is actually a larger issue
with like what the right amount of branding is, because
when you lead too much into one specific thing, it's
gonna work for you in the beginning, because that's how
the algorithm works. It rewards consistency and quantity over quality.
But it will reach a point where it goes bad fast.
It's like the experence. It's like how milk expires within

(30:33):
It's like, it's good, it's good, it's good one morning,
you wake up, you smell the bottle, not horrible. There
are I think with some people, there are like mean
and annoying people on the Internet that want you to
believe someone's quirk has expired, and just because they're gay
and confident doesn't mean they're right.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think that's really true, and I think.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's true with Lord. People really want you to convince
you that her quirk is expired. Don't let them, don't.
We are not going back, folks.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
We are here to support Lord through this album cycle.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Her quirk has not expired.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't care what her gender is. Yeah, we're listening.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
We're listening, we're learning.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
The thing is, people are like, oh, it's put on, Like,
oh she's And I'm like, this girl has been weird.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
This girl has always been weird.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, get into it.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Like she's not cool.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Do you think him's quirk expired when they first started
doing the synchronized dance at the concerts.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
I think that's when it started to expire.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
But I think they've recognized that, and I think they're like,
that's why they're going so hard right now. I think
they're really being like, we'll show you we have a
fresh batch of quirk totally.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, and it's all Louis at the time, and it's
all Louis d AOC's.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Quirk has expired, honestly, No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Sometimes I see like really really really left internet. That's
like AOC should kill herself. And I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
what is going on? And then I'm always like this
is so niche and like, yeah, it seems like a
lot of anger for no reason sometimes, but maybe I'm uneducated,
so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I wonder what the path is for Paul Pedro Pascal.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I'm worried about him.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, when a guy starts going sleeveless, we are on quirk.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Watch Oh, we're sniffing the milk.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Were the milk. We're saying, okay, maybe one more day. Yeah,
I'm not gonna put it in my cereal, like I'll
put it in my coffee, like, oh.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Splash my coffee of course.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, I'm sniffing his milk for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Because I gotta tell you Andrew Scott when Sleeveless it
expired fast.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
For Yeah, damn, I'm sort of obsessed with this.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
By the way, and I'm praying for Pedro. I think
he is so charming. I think he's so handsome.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I want to say, you know, I for me, I
was always like, not resistant, he seems great, but I
was always like everyone is being a little too coordinated
in their thirst for this man, like how about we
all relax. But something switched to me the last week,
and I am so ferial for him. I don't know
what it is. I'm like, I'm like, I have.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
To kiss him. Did you watch Game of Thrones?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Because his character in that he is so sexy and
like it's really incredible and like it's very much like
he comes on the screen, You're like, who is that?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Like I'm addicted. So he's the real deal. So I
love this.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, No, this is expired quirk. Sam. You know you
coined Lizo's pass and you coined expired quirk, and this
is your Your true talent is coining verbiage.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Okay, next, Q oh, this is this is really good.

Speaker 12 (34:09):
I hate guys want to treat this is exciting. A
long time listener, our first time caller, Patriista just sus
we're just taping last week and with try to say hi. Anyways,
I'm calling because.

Speaker 13 (34:23):
My husband and I have sort of a disagreement on
something and I'm hoping you guys can help it out. Okay,
I guess what we're wondering is what is the current
state of the term f for hag? That is fag
hag And I'm not going to say it because of,
you know, the aforementioned uncertainty about whether or not I'm

(34:44):
allowed to. I know policing language is lame now, but
I still don't want to.

Speaker 12 (34:49):
Be saying things that I shouldn't be. I basically called
them on this who you know kind of was but
was like, you can't say that? What a good excuse
to get our resolute.

Speaker 13 (35:02):
Gay guys on the horn.

Speaker 12 (35:05):
Now that I'm tokenizing you a little to conret my
own toxic Anyways, it is what you are informed of,
what you are allowed to say.

Speaker 13 (35:14):
I guess I will just add that my husband is
a straight, sispet white man, and I am a you know,
Sophie Rotten bisexual woman's period married to a.

Speaker 12 (35:24):
Man bars, So make that much you will.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
I love to.

Speaker 12 (35:28):
Invoke sam and say I'm not in a place where
I want to be critique, but.

Speaker 13 (35:32):
I am leaving this voicemail.

Speaker 12 (35:34):
So I guess maybe I am. Please go easy. I
love you guys very much. Who do you buy?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Folks? Her husband's gone woke? What about Reddit?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Reddit? Am I the asshole post? Like I parentheses F
twenty seven bisexual bisexual? My husband has gone woke?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
So I think this is such an interesting First of all,
I'm really interested in this dynamic. I do think this
is a real It's very funny when like a straight
cis white whatever man is like, hey, don't like he's like,
I'm trying to be good, so like.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Don't do that, like, don't say back haag. But I
have to disagree.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I think you're disagreeing with a woke husband.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, I think I think I think women.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I think, first of all, I think fag hag is
a chic term that needs to come back.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I think it is like a it's like, yeah, it's
a time honored tradition.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, and we like can't erase it, like there's something
like it's an important role is to be a fag hag.
And I think, yeah, I do think the way we like.
I don't know where we stand on whether well.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
There's two things with back haag or not. There's where
we stand on, like the concept of a haag haag,
and there's where we stand on like the PC political
correctness of the term fag hag. We've talked about the
concept of fagag before because of course Matthew's theory is
the fag hag is endangered because gay guys have more
ways of meeting other gay guys now, so there's they

(37:15):
have groups of friends that are all gay guys, and
so there's less quote unquote need not to refer to
friendship that way, for like a supportive woman who's going
to take you to your first gay bar, who's going
to like walk you through that breakup, who's going to
go on like a friendship with you, because now suddenly
you're going to han sho you are, you know, dealing

(37:36):
with your breakup. I actually yeah, yeah, you're dealing with
your breakup. I actually like fucking you're friends.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, I do think.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
But when you meet like a like a certified fag
hag where you're like, her deal is she loves gay
guys and she like relates to gay guys in a
deep way, I'm like, when I meet that person, I'm like, yes, like,
thank you, thank you for your service.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I can really agree, and I think.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
I don't want to sound Republican, of course, but I
am sort of like like you can say fag gag,
Like it's like a you can say fagag.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
To be clear, my answer is you can say fag hag,
and I'm not I don't really care. That's my personal
I actually am more. This is a conversation that has
been happening a lot, uh and I'm sure you have
seen it. The debate over whether or not women saying
twink is kind of a red flag, like are they
using the word twink to basically say fag?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I actually am way more not offended, but I'm way
more like bothered by the casual use of the word
twink when what you really mean is gay guy. Than
I am by the term fag hag that literally contains
the slur in it.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I think twink just to mean any gay guy is
like literally uneducated.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I wanna Okay, One thing I actually want to mention,
I think there has been a rise in the get
this the lesbian fag hag?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
M tell me.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I have seen this a lot in New York recently.
I've seen this in my friend groups. It'll be gay
guy friend group. One woman and her vibe is she
is a proud lesbian, has lesbian friends, like loves the
queer community, but she is a partier in a way
her lesbian friends can't keep up with. So she wants

(39:30):
to go to the rave with the gay guys. Oh
and I'm observing here. I'm saying, I'm seeing this. Yeah,
and it's rising.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Well, I think this is an amazing, groundbreaking new type.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Does this resonate with you at all?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
This is resonating with you?

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Like it is. It's like, and it's not. I'm not
I really don't want to apply that this is some
sort of self hating lesbian that like only wants to
hang out with men. It's not that at all. It's
that she literally just wants to go to the rave.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, it is like gay guys have the market cornered
on partying, yeah, and in a huge way. And it
is like I think if you're a lesbian who wants
to party, that's where you go.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
And it's like it's lesbians who love Lady Gaga, like
who want to talk about Mayhem? Yeah, and they just
they sorry, but like they do drugs.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
They want to do drugs.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
They want to do drugs.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
They want to literally do poppers, which I'm maybe it's
because they're being taken away and you never know what
you got till it's gone. I'm such a in a
pro popper space, right, Oh really Yeah, I like think
it's really funny to have on a dance floor. I'm
like I'm like charmed by them.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, in a different way.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Somebody when we went to Palm Springs, one of our
friends had like poppers and he had like a little
nozzle that like you put on it that so it
wouldn't spill, and then you could like put put it
in your nose and it was so fun and we
were like out of the bar, like doing poppers and.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Then like we'd like OWD.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I was like, this is so fun, well and why
can't women enjoy that?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
And I think they should?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
So I really think that's a big and I and
I think, I hate to say it, but that actually
makes straight fag haggs even more endangered because it's like
suddenly that they have to keep up with lesbians.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Now they have to be gay.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
These girls have a husband and he's woke, and he's
woke folks, Well, my husband's.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Gone, whoa wait, I just very quickly.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I really I love the phrasing of this call is
so straight from a straighter lab listener. It's like this
girl is just like she wants to She like wants
to both be politically correct but also recognize that. Like
I know we're all past this, but I used to
feel like I should say my husband assists head. Uh yep,
I'm bisexual. Okay, predictable, I know, but that's what I am. Like,

(41:56):
It's like I recognize her stylist speaking so much because
it's the exact way I speak.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, it is like self awareness, like the limits of
self awareness, where.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, it's the the woke husband snake eating his own tail.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I think if he keeps up this whole woke thing,
he's gonna be suck in his own dick.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
God, bless God, blessed, I think. And I just want
to say, I celebrate all fag.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Hags and celebrate all fat eggs.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
And I think, you know when you can say it,
And I think if you feel in your heart that
you can say, you can say it.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, and it's of course listen, it's coming from a
place of love. Yes, Okay, we're skipping. Someone called in
to tell us that they once served ted Dance and
gaspacho and he really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Someone is asking what my go to smoothie recipe is.
I gotta tell you not very interesting, just what I
have in the fridge. Seven. Okay, let's see.

Speaker 10 (42:58):
Hey, you gorgeous guys. Question, Let Mary kill Nathan Fielder,
Ira Glass and Michael Barbaro.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Okay, bye, this is an amazing question.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I want to have sex with Michael Barbaro.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
That is crazy.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I think I would.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Unfortunately have to kill Nathan Fielder just because I think
being married to him would be really difficult, totally, and
so I guess by default. I'm marrying Ira Glass, which
sounds like a really nice stable life, and I think
we'd have a nice home.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and fuck Nathan Fielder Mary
Ira Glass kill Michael Barbaro.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Wow, look at us. You don't want to have sex
with Michael Barbaro. I don't. Here's what else you need
to know today.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I actually have really, uh, I really have moved on
to different white male news podcasters.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, I mean I don't really listen to The Daily anymore,
but yeah, there's still something about him.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yep. Have you've seen the photo of him on the
yellow couch?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Right? Of course?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I mean that's legendary, legend. Okay, next call hi gay guys.

Speaker 14 (44:25):
This is Juliana. I'm calling with more of an alert
than a question. But since the prominence of context queen,
my friend has invented a little extenditure of that, which
is the context pill. And when someone needs a context
till they need to be given context, they are willfully
without context, but they also typically don't want to take

(44:46):
a context pill. So we'll be like, she needs a
context till we need to huy the context hill, and
he says he needs to get her to get contact.
Love your thoughts on that as a praise and as always.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Love, Wait, Sam, I do want you because again this
is your big talent of coining verbiage. I want you
very quickly to talk about the context Diva and what
she is.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Context Diva was something from our San Francisco show from
SF sketch Fest, where we were we were like asking
for more context, and anytime we would say something and
trying to clarify the context, we would point to one
person and be like, you're the context queen, You're the
context Diva.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And she started, she like started yelling out context. Remember, Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
That's it, that's it, and we were like, context Diva, right.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
She always knew the context for something, and.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
She being a public notary.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yes, that's exactly right. So she was the context Diva.
Then we got into this whole thing about how like
there should be a democratically elected context Diva, Like it
should be a cabinet position. It's someone whose job it
is when context is lacking to pipe up and give context.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Absolutely, and I love the idea of a context pill.
I really like that is so funny and I very
much understand how how bitter. A context pill can taste
like put it in peanut butter for me, because when
I don't know context and it actually like undermines what

(46:14):
I'm saying, that's gonna hurt a bit.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, And I actually think there's another issue in our society,
which is that often we're actually over prescribed context pills.
And that happens when someone it's like your friend who's
too woke, you know what I mean. It's like me saying, oh,
I'm entering the house and then someone being like, you know,
some people can't enter.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Oh my god, you're being so correct right now. That's
so smart.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
And it's like to say that sometimes we're overprescribed the
context pill. Doesn't mean we're against the context pill. It
means there is like a time and a place for it.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
It means talk to your doctor.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
It means talk to your doctor to find out if
the context pill is right for you.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Yeah, because you might be on too high of a dosage.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
And it does get to a point where, if you're
on too high of a dosage, you become paralyzed because
all you can see is context and not the thing
at hand. You cannot you literally can't see the forest.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
For the trees literally, and honey, it gets so hard
to come.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
No, the context I really love. I really love the
idea of the context pill. And I'm actually smelling merch.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
This episode is really making you be like, damn, we
do have a lot of phrases. I know, we are
one of those podcasts that comes up with a lot
of phrases.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And they're endlessly generative.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Well, they actually are really helpful frameworks to see the world.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Well, are again our main job is creating frameworks, of course,
that is those are our roots. It is creating theoretical
frameworks that you can apply to anything in your life.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
If we aren't creating frameworks, we're dead.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Literally, So take that context pill. Okay, let's see. Okay,
our minions gey straight? And is HBO Max changing its
name gear straight? Quickly?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Go Minions, I'm gonna say gay, and HBO Max I'm
gonna say that's very I think it's straight.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Actually, really, you think Hbox changing his name back and
forth is straight?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, because I think it's like sort of not being
able to commit. It's being like like, oh I I'm
gonna be crazy, Like it's it's very Demi Levado being
like I'm they them and then meaning actually, never mind.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, if HBO Max was actually queer, it would change
its name to Esmeralda and everyone would respect that. Okay,
next question, Hi, George and Sam.

Speaker 15 (48:47):
I was curious, what percentage of guests that you have
on have y'all slept with?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
And let me say something about this context Eva. You
know she's saying fag hag and she should and she should.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I'm okay, this is an amazing, amazing question, and it's
so juicy that I just was like, well, we at
least have to play it. I'm now scrolling through the
list of our guests just to see.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I believe my count is I don't know percentage, but
I believe my count is three. Really, and I'm I'm
using sleep with pretty liberally. I would say anything that
I would describe as like a hookup.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Okay, let me see. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling.
I have one, so let's start there. That's good.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
As I'm scrolling, I'm trying to think who your three are. Okay,
I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling, scrolling. What if I only have one?
How pitiful little loser?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I'm texting you my three.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Okay, Well, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Counting that second one is a stretched account. But you
can also count that one.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I've traded news with one.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Oh, if we're going, we're going to We're gonna have
to We're gonna have to take a different context bill.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Okay, I literally think mine is just one still scrolling?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Is it the one we share?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
No, so I guess that's two. But we didn't really
hook up. I feel we made out.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
That will say. Oh, that's why I'm saying it's a
stretch to count that one.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Okay, then in that case, then.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
You have two and I have three. We're using we're
using the queer definition. We're making out counts.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
We're making out counts. Okay, just double triple checking because
honesty is so important. We have a lot of people
i'd like to hook up with. Oh wait, nope, that
one counts. So now I'm at three.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Wait, send them to me. All right, let's actually think
we have to move on.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yeah, but fukay three, we both have three.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
We both have three. That's really amazing.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
That's really awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
And only one overlap, and only one overlap, and that
overlap is the least sexual.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, that's the one that's a stretch for both of us.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
It's a stretch for both of us.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
Okay, Hi Sama and George, This Danny and Peter. A
question that we have is, in the year eight hundred,
what would your role be in the village. A couple
of the answers that we've had before is taste tester
for the king. Our friend has Celiac's disease and is
constantly shooting his pants, so everybody thinks he's poisoning.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
We've also had poop Catcher.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Both poop related. I'm picking up on a theme. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I mean, ideally I would be sort of a prince. Yeah,
and I would be unemployed for the for the most part.
I'd have a wife, but I would of course hook
up with my the man who addressed me every morning.
Oh yeah, And that's pretty much my deal.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
So you're why you want to be a prince.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I think I'm prince, Okay, because I'm either prince or I'm.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Dead, Like, I don't have the the chutzpah to you know,
drive in this type of environment.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I believe ultimately I would be you know, I would
be a columnist. I think that I would be trying
to put together like a zine, you know, on papyrus
or raw or stones or whatever was available. And I
think I would not be good enough at not making
the right enemy or at not making the wrong enemies.

(52:22):
And I think I'd be like really successful for two
years and then I would get murdered, Like I would
get executed basically in the town square.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Well, that would be fun. I would definitely show up
to that.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I would also be like really obsessed with being upwardly mobile,
but it's like that's not possible in these times. I
would think I'd be the first one to live the
American dream in the year eight hundred. Okay, next question.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
This is a groundbreaking episode.

Speaker 11 (52:49):
Hi, Divas. I was wondering if you've been to the
news gay bar Playhouse, and if you have.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
A review, say Trudi bye, So you haven't, I have not.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
This is a new gay bar.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I honestly didn't realize it was new. I mean I
went like two years ago. Am I crazy? Hold on,
I'm looking this up. I'm looking this up Playhouse, New
York City. Well, regardless of whether it's you or not,
I have been once with Josh Sharp and I had
the time of my damn life. Our dear friend Izzy
Uncutt was performing. She absolutely ate down. It was like

(53:29):
the perfect level of crowded. It's a cute space. I
thought the crowd was fun. Ultimately, it's not like where
I want to go every Friday night. I would say
it exists in this midway point between, Like on the
one end you have something like Julius, which is so
vintage and cool that it's like it will never be lame.

(53:52):
And then on the other end you have like a
Marie Crisis, which is so a musical theater and old
queen and piano that it's like camp. Yeah, Playhouse is
like in the middle, so it kind of could go
either way. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (54:07):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
It's not like cool enough to be cool, but it's
not uh like embarrassing enough to be reclaimed.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Would you say it's Philly?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
It is Philly?

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Okay, Playhouse is Philly.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
But I again, I had a really great time there
and I and I would go back, and in fact,
I now want to go back.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
I went to the most Philly restaurant this morning.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Oh my god, what was it?

Speaker 7 (54:34):
It was?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
It's called like La mill or something, but it was
like the deck core was like where did you find this?
Like it was like a weird like I was in
the mall or like a bank lobby or something.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Well, there's like no time for this, but you know,
I just got back from Denver.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Oh wow, we.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Actually need to discuss this. Maybe we'll discuss on patron
but so fans might remember our second episode ever, that
topic was Denver. Max's topic was Denver his straight topic.
Obviously at that time we would never actually talk about
the straight topic. So if you go back, you're not
going to find any insights about the city of Denver.
But as a straight topic, it was so perfectly chosen

(55:14):
because it really is the most heterosexual city I've ever
been to. Wow, it is like everything you think of
as kind of twenty tens gentrification chic, like the beer hall,
the converted warehouse, the coffee shop that is a refurbished
storage unit, you know what I mean. Like the giant

(55:36):
market hall that has a bunch of different food courts
in it. Like that is the entire city. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Sometimes in a place like that it can be a
little bit erotic because you're like, this is so straight.
There must be like a CD underground, Like people are
like hooking up total fly? Did you feel any like
CD Undertone? Did you pop on the Sniffies or something?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I should have? I mean I didn't because there was
literally no way it would have. I was there with
two friends and we were there for like forty eight hours,
and like sure, sure I was not going to hook up,
and so I didn't. I I will say my feelings
about the city aside. I loved the people, Like everyone
you it was this weird thing where everything seemed so bland,

(56:17):
but then the food was great, the people were nice,
Like it wasn't like other cities which I won't name,
where you're like, oh my god, like get me out
of here. Why is nothing working? Like why can't I
go to a coffee shop and get a croissant? Like
everywhere we went like it was good because again it's
like it's this gentrification vibe, like it's like getting new
blood to the area, getting the coffee shops, getting the

(56:40):
concert venues. Like it was good where it needed to be.
But then you couldn't take a walk.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah anyway, don't whatever, don't get mad at me. Okay,
all right, well here's here's one. Here's here's one.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Oh, and here's one for Heyday guys.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
Wanted to call in and see what you guys think
about bald guys, Bald gay guys in particular. I recently
gave in and shaved.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
My head and.

Speaker 8 (57:14):
I am having a hard time addressing to it. But
I think it looks good overall. So just when you
think about twenty nine year old gay men who are bald,
do people respect me? I think it looks good, but
I want to know what you think, especially George as
somebody with great hair that goes for the buzz cut

(57:37):
and why love you guys?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I think bald is very hot. I think it's complex,
of course, because it's like losing one's hair is always
like jarring because you're like, but like when you meet
someone who is bald, you like don't know them from
having hair, and so you're like, you look great, like,
but I see the losing can be traumatic and weird.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
It's like one of those things like height that it's like,
no matter where we are in acceptance, it's going to
be an internalized stigma.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
It's also because of like drugs and stuff that are
now like make it possible to have it be a
little more optional. It is like it's we're in an
interesting place with it where it's like do you like fight,
do you fight like hell and be like I'm going
to keep my hair out all costs or are you
like like it is sort of like I'm I'm going
to be a bald guy. Like there's something of like

(58:36):
I'm gonna do that now.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
That is it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I like they're almost like bald guys are almost like
going extinct in a way. Like you watch shows from
like the nineties and you're like, like main characters are bald,
whereas like now if you watch a show there, they
ain't having a bald guy on TV.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Well, and I think it's as you said, it's actually
this is related to spin drift. I think you I
think you can have a fully bald man on TV,
and you can have a fully not bald man on TV.
What you don't get anywhere that you got in the
seventies and eighties is a balding man like just fully
you know, again someone who like has less hair on
top because he is in the process of balding. Yeah,

(59:16):
that at some point was it was decided that that
was not allowed to be on.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Screen, Yeah, it's annoying. I also, I find a bald
spot to be very hot.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It's like so masculine to me, totally, totally, it's very masculine. Yeah,
it's funny because people think of balding like the stigma
is that it's somehow emasculating, when in fact it is
the most masculine thing you can have.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Yeah, it's very sexy.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know, one of my big crushes, Corey Stole, is bald.
Oh that's true, I will say on a personal level,
because I grew up with a bald dad. My dad
has been fully bald since he was like twenty five,
like legitimately, like I haven't even seen like maybe he
was balding in his early twenties, but like as far

(01:00:04):
back as photos go, especially photos with me being alive,
he is fully bald. And so it is difficult not
to associate boldness with my dad, which then makes it
challenging on a sexual attraction level. Sure, I mean that's interesting,
and it's like like I'm like, what is that the
equivalent for you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I don't know, You're like the opposite of Freud, Like
I know, literally you should like kind of find it
more hot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I know it's and I guess I go back and forth.
It's not like I don't it's not like I don't
find it hot, but I but there is just something.
And it was also always such a joke, like he
was always so self deprecating about it was always like
a thing that he was bald. It was like, you know,
he'd go to the you know, because he has hair
like in the back of his head. He would like
go get a haircut and be like, I need a haircut,
and my mom would be like, do you like where

(01:00:51):
like show show me where they're gonna cut their you know.
It was such a such an ongoing joke. It's like
if like you have like a fat and all the
jokes are about how he's fat or something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's a It is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
One of the it's a tough one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
But to answer this listener's question, like, no one is
thinking no, there's no one that's being like, oh god,
he's bald.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, what weld is in?

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Do you want to talk about your hair journey with
since he oh, yes, the buzz cut.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
So, first of all, I actually do have great hair objectively,
but because it is so unwieldy and thick. It's sort
of like it looks like politician hair when it grows out,
like I look like Rob Lagoyevitch. Like it's just very
like thick. It like grows out in all directions. And
I've just never been good at taking care of it

(01:01:46):
or knowing what product you use, or knowing like where
to go to get a good haircut. And I actually
think I look fine with a buzzed head, Like I
genuinely like how I look, and so it just is easier,
it's cheaper and like I don't have to think about it,
and that's sort of my But then occasionally, honestly, I
was thinking about this when I was looking at recent
photos of Pedro Bescal, who I do think has potentially

(01:02:10):
opted to not be bald. But I was like, damn,
he has some great hair, Like maybe I should grow
my hair out and have like a nice little.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Poof If anyone could figure it out, it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Oh stop, But anyway, that's my journey. Yeah, okay, let's
do a last call.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
And was what is from Alaska?

Speaker 15 (01:02:42):
I was actually dead for this weekend, and I saw
George that you were here too, And my brother went
the same rock show, and I was having heared to you, but.

Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
He did not.

Speaker 15 (01:02:53):
My question is like, what's to do with taking shirt
off in the clubs like the gay bar, the gig club?

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
Right, Like, what is that?

Speaker 15 (01:03:04):
It's last Friday. I was at xbar and.

Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
It seems there was a group of.

Speaker 15 (01:03:12):
Guys being kind of rowdy with their shirts off, and
I was kind of watching them, like they are straight
guys will take their shirts off because their outfits are
just too immaculate, Like what's going on there?

Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
All right? Thank you guys, love you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
So this is like a really confusing call.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I have to say, I'm mostly confused.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I think we can answer it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I think we're gonna take We're gonna make our own questions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
We're going to make our own question. I also think
I maybe can't hear part of what he's saying at
the end, because I'm like I was right there with him.
I'm like, Okay, we're answering a question about why gay
guys take their shirts off at the bars. But then
he was like, I was at acbar and straight guys
took their shirts off at the bar.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Did he say he's at acbar?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I thought he did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Hold on, but he's from Alaska.

Speaker 15 (01:03:56):
Friday, I was at xbar and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Oh sorry, I was at X bar. He is censoring
the name of the bar. He was not at acturate.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Got it, got it? Got it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
So all right, Sam, Actually I would like you to
take this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
So I'm gonna discuss vaguely what it means to take
your shirt off at a bar.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
So I have a really complex relationship with it because
I actually find it fun and such a like like
gay tradition to be like we're all shirtless dancing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
That is so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Fun and throwback. But then it does get into like
toxic territory very quickly, where then you're like seeing all
these bodies and all the bodies are like the same,
and you're like, wait, now I feel gross, Like now
I feel the competition.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Now I feel the like self.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Consciousness and like in a way where I'm like it's
supposed to feel like wow, like bodies on bodies on bodies,
and said, it's like it like almost gets like militaristic
and like unsexy. So I I personally am like very
torn on whether or not to take my shirt off
at a bar. I think, like, so there's this party,

(01:05:09):
the summer party, here in La called Bears and Space,
which is so to die for, And it happens like
once a month in the summer at in the Acbar
parking lot, and that's a really fun like everyone takes
their shirts off because it's hot out and it's like
a summer daytime party and it's like but it's all
different types of bodies and it's not like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
A circuit party.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
It's just sort of like mingling with that loud music
with your shirt off, and it's like fun, and so
that one feels like more ethical, but then the other one,
Like I've been at parties where it's like like I
had my shirt off and then I saw the other
types of people that had their shirt off and they
had those muscle muscle bodies, and I was like, wait,
I hate this. I don't want to be associated with them.

(01:05:54):
I don't know that's how I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Yeah, it's like it's sort of it's almost if you
zoom out a little bit, it's almost like you can
appreciate it as just like an encapsulation of the gay
guy experience where you're like this push and pull between
feeling liberated and feeling completely insecure and marginalized is like

(01:06:17):
that is just the day to day experience of being
in community with gay men, and I think oftentimes people
focus on only one of those elements. It's like either
the story is that you persevered and you self actualized,
or the story is like, oh God, poor me, I'm
not the thing that I'm supposed to be, and so

(01:06:37):
I don't fit into this community. And I unfortunately think
anywhere you are and no matter what you're like different
subidentity is it just is part of the experience of
being gay to feel both, because the thing you realize
as you meet these muscle guys is they are the

(01:06:59):
most insecure of all and that's yeah, not all of them,
but many of them. That is why in fact they
are so like they work so hard, and they plan
often their entire life around looking a certain way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
You know what, I will say, I always have fun at.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I would say an underwear party. I actually find sort
of the proper level of silly. I find that an
underwear party has like more humility than a shirtless party,
whereas like shirtless is sort of like you're just like,
look at my muscles sometimes, and then underwear party is
more like this is kind of embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Like we're all in our underwear like this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I disagree. Really yeah, I think underwear underwear stresses me
out more. I don't like I really don't honestly don't
like wearing a drop strap, and like there's just something
I would much rather. And also, if you're the only
one not in his underwear and underwear party, you stick
out way more than if you're the only one in
like a T shirt at a shirtless party. And I'm

(01:08:01):
sort of like, if I go into a shirtless party,
depending on how good I feel, depending on how what
my mood is, maybe I can take my shirt off,
maybe I can keep it on. Maybe I can like
sort of have like a little fanny pack over my
over my torso and then be halfway through, halfway there.
But like, there is something I feel trapped in an
underwear party.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Interesting, I feel so settled in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
There's something where I'm like, we're all, we have to
we're all it's like mutually just it's mutual destruction. Is
that that thing where you're like we're all the same
level of like embarrassed right now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I guess I see, I see what you're saying. But
I think if everyone agreed that that would be the vibe,
then I would like it. But then you see people
that have like laser eyes and they're like so jeed
out and like looking for something specific, and you're like,
oh no, why can't why are you not being fun?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yeah that's a good points.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Maybe, Yeah, it's interesting. I want to just briefly touch
on the idea that straight guys take their shirts off
and gay guys don't, because I understand I think I
understand the vibe this person is going for, which is
like almost like a tailgate adjacent, like guy that's like
come on and then like rips his shirt off, like
that kind of thing. But my answer to that would

(01:09:23):
just be I promise you gay guys are taking their
shirts off as well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
They're gonna go ahead and be taking their shirts off. Yeah,
I will say when I was in college, my straight
guy friend group, we would famous we would take our
shirts off all the time at parties because we thought
it was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
And it was kind of crazy. In retrospect, it was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Wow, this is making me excited for summer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Yeah, no, summer. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I had a pool day and it was to die for.
I got that summer feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Did you have a pool day at your pool or
someone else. Yeah, damn. And you know I had people
over for your vision. Both had things. I was like.
I was like, actually, someone was like, you guys talk
about your vision. I was like, damn, next year, maybe
I'll make Sam watch and then we can talk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I'm ready. I'm ready to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
But uh no, I when you were talking to me
last week about how you're gonna have people over at
your pool, I was so jealous. What did you did?
You end up doing gay guys, mixed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Co workers, very very small list of gay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Coworkers okay, interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
And and then like random gay guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Okay, so gay guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
But but I didn't go like I didn't go very
wide with it, like and I didn't go like comedy
with it. I went like just like gay guys totally.
But it was it was it was really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
And actually I did that. So when I had people
are for your vision, Josh was the only comedian, and wow,
if you can believe them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I mean, I love comedians. Let's start there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Let's start there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
But it is the way they socialize is like frantic
and like all the wrong instincts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Like also, it makes me not be at my best sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Too, I completely join in. I'm like yeah, like I'm
Comedians love to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Gather where they're not supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
They love to like just be in like the doorway
of the entrance, and it's like, no, come have be
part of this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
You're part of this. It's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
They're always they always have to be in the core.
They always have to be in the minority. They have
to be in a corner observing. Yeah, and they are
never actually part of the space that they're in. They
are always friendly bowits.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
They are literally the kids at an adult party at
all times.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
One hundred have to give them their own table. They
need their own room, like sometimes they need like their
own drink station.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
It is like, it's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
It's embarrassing, and of course it's also beautiful because it
we you know, it gives you an excuse to be
a child forever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
I mean, never forget your Christmas party where we all live.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
That literally a whole room that was just the comedians
and everyone else was just it at a normal holiday party.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
That was so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Arguably also happened at my wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
That's true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
And they have a way of making you feel like
you're missing out, Like when I was like, you know,
talking to your parents out of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
The corner of my eye.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
See all the comedian's not gonna go oh my by
they're having so much fun. I'm a fucking loser over here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Wow this episode was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Yeah, start to finish, I think I'm gonna be thinking
about expired quirk a lot expire quirk a context pill,
context Pill, Denver.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Denver, Which time sister is Boston, San Francisco or DC.
A rural lesbian calling us to ask her what she
should know about culture?

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I mean the fag hag discussion. I'm like, this is
one of our best calling shows in forever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
And reminder, you can always call in at three eight
five gay guys and leave a voicemail and we're gonna
do these intermittently.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
So and we yes, and we do them on the
Patreon even more frequently. So you can always join that
by going to patreon dot com slash stradio lab.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
And I just want to say thanks for listening, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I want to agree. I want to agree with Sam
in his gratitude for your listenership.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
And uh, I feel like we I keep going to
be like, like, I have this urge to say so something, yeah,
be like and check us out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
It's like, well, we don't actually have anything to announce.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yeah yet, but we will, but we will. And I
just want to say, have a great summer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Seriously, you guys, it's here. It's pretty much here. And George,
have an amazing time in Italy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Thank you, and hope that your flight's an amazing time.
Cleaning your room.

Speaker 7 (01:14:18):
My room.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
My room is the dirtiest it's ever been. It's crazy.
Oh that's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Hurt when we go on tour. I'm giving you a deadline.
You gotta have tsa pre check before we leave for tour.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I gotta figure that.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I about to be unemployed, so I'll have a lot
of time to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I literally procrastinated on it for a full ten years
of my life. Got global entry, which includes pre check.
I just traveled to Denver use it for the first
time to not feel like cattle, to just like it's
like I'm costplaying nineteen ninety seven pre nine to eleven
airport experience.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
That's amazing. I can't imagine what that's like it's nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Even at JFK, I feel like there's no way to
not feel like cattle there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I mean, listen, you're all kind of feeling like cattle,
but you're definitely feeling like upper middle class cattle.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Hey, I'll take it. I'm a prize pig.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
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