"Weddings" w/ Hunter Harris and Peyton Dix

And today we have a case of the GIGGLES as we're joined by the hilarious hosts of the brand-new podcast Lemme Say This, Hunter Harris and Peyton Dix, to bring it back to straight-culture basics. That's right, we're talking WEDDINGS: Can gay weddings be straight? Should brides runway-walk down the aisle? Who is that one random uncle and why is he being annoying? Plus: What are they doing with Katy Perry? It's pretty much anyone's guess at this point.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who do who? This is George and I am here
to say that. Guess what. I Am taking my stand
up show on the road this summer, and I'm going
on a little tour in July and August, and my
first show will be in none other than Chicago on
July twelfth. You can find tickets in my Instagram bio
at linktree dot com slash George Severs. That is link

(00:21):
l I NK Tree, t R e E dot com
slash George Severs. And if you live in Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston, DC, Seattle, Portland,
or San Francisco, all of those tickets will become available
very soon, so check back in at linktree dot com
slash George Severs in the coming days. But for now,
if you live in Chicago, please buy tickets to my
show on July twelfth. It's going to be at the

(00:43):
Den Theater, which is where we did our Stradio Lib show.
I'm so excited. It is my first time ever headlining
in Chicago. I can't wait. Can't wait to see everyone,
So please please buy tickets and bring your friends. All right,
enjoy the episode.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Bye podcast starts now what is up everyone around the globe?

(01:19):
We are, if you can believe it, doing that time
Thank God.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Our favorite thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's my favorite thing to do is do that time thing.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love doing that time thing. But this is an
even more rigorous version of that time thing because we're
doing it quite literally right after we finished this recording.
We're about to hear so much so that one of
our guests is quite literally still outside this room and
can potentially even hear me as I'm speaking.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I mean talk about nonlinear storytelling.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Non linear storytelling is having a moment, and that's and
that's on merely we roll along?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is that nonlinear? Haven't seen it?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Actually it's actually they do it famously. Each scene is
in reverse order, so you start out at the end
of their story and then at do you know what
I mean? And then at the end you get a story.
I can explain it further if you would like.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm just sort of like enough with the gimmicks. No,
just give me a good story.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, no, I actually completely agree.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I mean that's basically being like Broadway in four D,
Like I'm like, grow up, yeah, like does the seat
shake to unbelievable?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I know, gimmicks? What if we need to come up
with a good metric for how often people can use gimmicks,
like how what is it? What is it for a
gimmick to be earned? Because this is what's sort of
similar to our deeply held belief that you can only
ironically like something bad maybe once a financial quarter. And

(02:44):
I would say, yeah, it's pushing it.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I agree. I think hmm, it's really tough because
sometimes the gimmick is a slay like joke. Like when
when Avatar one came out and was three D, I said, yes,
I said, I celebrate this. This is a gimmick. But
this is working for me. But then like every other

(03:09):
movie that came out in three D was like, well
this sucks. I don't want to see this.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
No, it's true. I'm trying to think of a gimmick
that worked for me.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, I know another gimmick. You know at Disney when
they're like you like, I've only been to Disney World
once in my entire life, and I was in high school,
and there's this attraction where you like watch a thing
about bugs and then like and then you're sitting in
the chair and like, oh, like the chair like has
like little almost like massage balls as if like a

(03:38):
bug is going under you and I'm like, oh my god,
that really worked. Movies should do that.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, here's a gimmick that I think that I have
mixed feelings about. Remember when big sneakers happened, like Balenciaga
big sneakers? Uh huh did that work?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
You don't think so?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Do you think so?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't. Actually, I'm sort of like maybe I think
size is not enough. Making something really big or really
small in this day and age is not enough. You
have to give something more, which I also don't think small.
I don't think small purses were I think the gimmick
can't just be that it's too big or too small.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, but what if you have a really small purse
and really big shoes.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I think that's even worse. Oh you're a trend chaser,
you're TikTok You're literally you're gonna look stupid starting tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh my god, Well this is cruel. I just think
I actually, I think where I'm getting defensive is I
like small purses.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think they're like small purses. Okay, I think I
like the ninetyes small backpack. I was on board with
mm hmm. But to me, small purses is less. I
mean it's like it's not additive.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah yeah, I like the persons are already to be
a little silly, so it's like, why not make it sillier? Yeah,
but maybe that's just me.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
So we are coming at you live from Times Square,
and I think before we get into the episode, we
maybe should promote a few things, not to be completely
Sheryl Sandberg business brained. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
No, I think, I think go, I think pop off.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So we are launching March, that's true. And we have
T shirts. We have new Glamor Girl hats which people
have been begging for for quite literally sixteen years, three years,
three years. Talk about something we could have ordered by
ourselves anytime. At this point, we would be billionaires. They
would be like on the on every model in Paris
Fashion Week. But we said no, we are. We refuse

(05:44):
to give the people what they want because anticipation is
the most important thing when it comes to big pop
culture moments.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, we edged and we edged and we edged it.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
We're sort of like Luca guad Ninho promoting Challengers for
three full calendar years before releasing it and guess what.
It worked for him, It's gonna work for us.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, we have incredible hats at say Glamour Girl. We
have t shirts that say I listen to Stradia Lab
and I vote.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And by the way, vote in that context can mean
whenever you want it to mean, like a loha. We're
not We're not necessarily talk about electoral election, electoral politics.
We're not necessarily talking about America. We're not necessarily even
endorsing or not endorsing voting. It is a matter of
it is just a way to feel empowered to say I.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Vote, Yeah, I vote empowerment.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Vote on American idol.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And then you know what else we have is bumper
stickers that say LGBTQ plus creator on board.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I mean, I'm sorry, but that is genius.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, that is funny.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
There is, of course, there's a part of me that
misses one of our original ideas, which was a bumper
sticker that says, honk if you're telling yourself stories in
order to live. Yeah, I know that is unfortunately a
trademark by the Joan Diddyon estate, and so we had
to settle on LGBTQ plus Creator on board. I would
say buy this even if you have a baby on board,

(07:05):
if you want them to grow up and be an
LGBTQ plus creator, start small, like yeah, start them young.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, aspirational, bumper stickers aspirational.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But you can even write with sharpy aspirational LGBTQ plus
creator on board.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
So merches out now and the.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Link will be, you know, obviously, in our in our
bio or else would it be?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Where else would it be? Mama and and George. You're
going on tour and I.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Am going on a little eight city tour. I'm actually
trying to add one more city. You heard it here first,
but which one might start with a T and be
located in Canada.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Let's just say oooh, that would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
But I am going on tour to eight cities. They
are Chicago, Pittsburgh, Washington, d C, Philadelphia, Boston, Seattle, Portland,
and San Francisco. It starts in July, and it's you know,
on and off for July and August. It is I'll
say it a difficult time to be touring because people
have plans in the summer. So I really need people

(08:01):
to act as though I am Charlie XCX releasing a
new album and do some grassroots promo because we need butts.
We need butts in seats, and I am hitting the
red alert button that we need to sell tickets.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Have you thought about dropping into hot clubs and parties to,
you know, do a couple jokes and I get ye, are.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You doing hot ones? I am doing set myers, I
am doing the view, I think, but they double with me.
They double booked me with with Timothy Shallowmey, who's actually
ruting his own stand up tour, uh weirdly in the
same exact cities that I'm doing, but in bigger venues.
And so you will definitely be and of course a
lot of local media because you have to support local journalists.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You have to support local media. So it's the.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Philadelphia Inquirer, the Seattle Times, the Pittsburgh Gazette, well yeah, yeah, everywhere.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well this is going to be groundbreaking.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's going to be groundbreaking. It's my first time going
on tour solo, doing my stand up hour, and I'm
gonna have some local openers at every spot even ooh fun.
So yeah, and you know, watch after Midnight on CBS.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I want to say that while we're doing that time
thing about this episode. I think it was I was
really self conscious. You know, all three of you were
in New York City in the same room, and once
I was alone here in Los Angeles and it is
so tough and everyone's being so supportive, but I was like, damn,
it is hard to hop in.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
And I'm sorry. And by the way, you were doing
such an amazing job. But I, of course I know
in my heart that it's one of the most difficult
things to have three guests in one city and you
are on zoom the You're literally like, we're here, We're
doing hand gestures, we're making eye contact with one another,
we're bouncing ideas off one another. And because it was
a hot one, I would say we had incredible chemistry,

(09:55):
the four of us.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of course, it was well, it was fast talking, and
I was like every time I spoke, I was like, okay,
now everyone be quiet. Yeah, Like in a way that
was like fuck. I also was doing this thing. But
I don't know if you noticed, like if I I
sort of started giving up a little bit and being
like just wait until there's like a pause where you
can really talk. But there was a second where I
had to be like like I would be like and

(10:16):
like try to get in, and it was like, no,
it's better to just not. And it was so I
also have to say, to pull back the curtain even further.
There's like, you know, our producers here, there's people here
like setting things up, and I, you know, they had
to watch me solo with a light on, sort of
quiveringly make a noise to get in. And I was like, damn,

(10:37):
were they giving you a little thumbs up?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Like, oh, good job, but you're getting in there a
little buddy.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
It was really really really humbling, which you know, I
do think is important. Of course, of course, of course, of.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Course, well you know what, you were a real sport
about it. And next time we'll have two guests on
your end and I will be humbled in my in
my solo studio. Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Who could it be, you know, maybe it could be.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's a great idea to La La comedy scene.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
State La based writers and comedians.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I want to say, George, also, you did such an
incredible job of essentially hosting the show today. It was
sort of it was George's world and where I was
just living in it. Oh and in a way that
I really celebrated.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well, I will say, because I'm in these sort of
uh Instagram chairs that we're sitting on, there is something
very like talk show about Like I did feel like
I was missing a talk show because I had my
two guests here, I was on my chair. I'm kind
of accidentally dressed like a TikTok team without without meaning to,
and so I did feel like I was potentially hosting

(11:48):
a talk show on TikTok sponsored by a big brand
that's going to go bankrupt in three months. Yeah, no
serial that Yeah, yeah. Do you know I read someone
eats cereal with water? I read that recently in an article.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, it was the It was a c Who was
that CEO of I just read this too. Yeah not Netflix.
Oh Love is Blind? Love is Blind?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh, it was the guy that was in charge of
Love is Blind.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's the guy who's in charge of Love is Blind.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, Well, because that was the time there was that
Vulture article that would have to be iconoclastic in order
to create an incredible show like Love is Blind.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I started reading that article and then I was like,
this is kind of dark, but I do want to
finish it. I just couldn't you know.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
They're making articles dark these days. I've noticed that as well.
You know, articles they're putting dark. They're putting dark themes
the industry wide. Then you trend dark themes and articles.
You heard it, hear, folks, you heard it hear first, folks,
we're seeing dark themes and articles.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
If you walked on your children, they're putting dark themes
and articles.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
You're working at the New Yorker, you're work at the
Washington Post, New York Times. They're putting everyone in the room,
and they're saying, we need these to sell dark themes.
That people want dark themes.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean talking about dark themes. I just started reading
the article about Charlie XCX's disc track and who it's about.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh my god, I can't even I can't even process
that right now because it is actually one hundred percent true.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, and it's also like I'm really changing my perspective
on how I see pop girls, where I'm now starting
to see them as all gay guys comedians. Like I'm like, oh,
so Charlie made a song that'd be like me making
out like a disc podcast about I don't know who
like Julio, Like it's like yeah, like I'm going, I'm

(13:37):
doing forever touring about like Joe Castle Baker. I'm like,
this is so funny, like they all know each other
and it's so juicy.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Damn. Well, if you have any dark themes you guys
think we should explore, please write in and for now,
I gotta say, enjoy this kind of amazing and very
funny episode with Hunter Harris and Peyton Dix. Yeah, ok,
my merch come to our tour and go read some
dark articles say that. Okay, bye, please welcome to the

(14:10):
lab from let me say this our sister podcast as
of today, Hunter Harris and Peyton Dix. Hello, Hello, how's
it going.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's good. I actually kind of wanted to hear like
an airhorn.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I know, Oh, don't we do that in post? There's
maybe a lot of audio.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay, thank god.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
I kind of imagine it being like the bomb dropping
like on Queen Radio.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yes, exactly, like kind of like something crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
We work with Nicky's team a lot, so we could
have them.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, close close collaborator.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Jealous jealous jealous.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I said that and I took it back, and then
I didn't want to take it back because a barb
could be watching it any moment.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I've always been I understand that there are many things
I should have tuned out any negative things about her.
And I'm still in like twenty twelve mode where I'm like,
oh my god, I love her. I love that mixtape,
like I just don't I And I'm just like, yeah,
I guess I can just pretend the last ten years
never happened.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I feel about Katy Perry.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh well, actually, Sam, we have to talk about this.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh yeah that was a dark Oh.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh wait, can't wait you. I think you guys are
like the perfect people to talk about this with, which
is they are making Katy Perry Charlie XCX.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yes, I saw the photos.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
The photos. Did you see her new font?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
The the treatment.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
There are seven men in a room and they were
sitting her down, you know Guantanamo's style, and they're saying,
you are now Charlie xx. And she's like, what does
that mean. They're like, shut the fuck up, you are
now Charlie XX. We're gonna wear these shorts and you're
gonna have this font.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, and like Camilados next door, like taking notes.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I am watching with like the glass against the door,
like really trying to get in the lab.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
No, but with KP is it KP sex or KP seven?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Sam, You're the G seven But I'm but you know,
you just gotta get.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, I'm excited. She's kind of like been in her
like most out of control promo mode where every day
she'll like tweet like non sequiturs. Yes, something, I'm like, interesting, Katie,
where is your head? Like I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
It's sort of giving. What was the Trump era album
where she healed I.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Hate women.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
When she locked herself on Twitter? Yes, it says with
like Dray mckeesson.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yes, literally, Yeah, she.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Was laying on the floor spinning her teeth.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yes. Also when she oh did she performed on SNL
with Migosh.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And then Migos. Wasn't that when Migos like said something
homophobic or something and then.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
The one time something do you guys remember that I
said something homophone?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I know what it was. She had drag queens on
the performance for SNL and Migos was like they didn't
want to perform the drag queens or something.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah about that. I also want to circle back to
us calling this her heeled era, like all these are
like toxic and shit.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
She tried to heal during the Trump era when she
got in touch with Deray.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
And also remember that tweet that was like talk to
your family verse who voted for Trump were all at
the same dinner table or something crazy, like a crazy
version of that.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
There was actually one I read this essay that was
like about a woman who was talking about how empowered
you helped after her divorce, which I of course celebrate.
But then at some point, truly two thirds of the way,
and it became clear that the ex husband was a
Trump supporter. And you're like, okay, so this is not
about patriarchy, like ya, this is about you married a
fundamental a Christian Fundamentalistrump supporter.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Like that who hates black people.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
You can't be like, ladies, come on, who's with me?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Girls? Yeah? Wait for the record, is this a pro
divorce podcast?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
We've actually never discussed our position on divorce.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, Sam is anti the HBO show Divorce because it
brought conflict into his relationship.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
The moment we watch a show about where there is conflict,
it destroys my relationship. Does that mean we don't have
a strong relationship? Potentially but I can't watch any couple
get into any fight on screen or else we will
mirror them.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
So are you guys currently watching couples therapies?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
That was just my following quotes.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Well, that's the thing. We can't watch it together, Like
I'll watch it, but I mean we haven't tried watching
it together because I'm scared what if then we get
into a fight.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Like Yeah, but this is a good question in terms
of like where divorce stands currently in the cultural conversation
because it has been fully destigmatized. No one is like
embarrassed about getting a divorce. And yet, as we will
talk about later on, weddings are more high production than
ever there and there's more my forever guy culture than ever. Yeah,

(18:39):
so how do we reconcile?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
So what do we do? How can we what's Joe
Biden's plans?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Literally, what is Joe Biden's plan about divorce?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think a divorce though, because it's been so destigmatized,
is just like a breakup. Now, it's like an expensive breakup.
And I do have to say I'm always pro breakup.
Whenever a friend is going through a breakup, I'm like
this rules, Like I'm never like oh. I mean I
am like, I know this is hard for you, but
I am also like, in like a year, that's gonna
be so fun. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, this summer's gonna be amazing. We're gonna sleut you out.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Does that make sure nice about the you know, we
tell ourselves stories in order to live of it all that,
Like you have to believe in marriage when you're having
a wedding, and then as soon as you have a divorce,
you're like that was the planet all along, And I'm empowered.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I actually think you have to go into being getting
married being radically pro divorced. You to be like, oh,
of course, just piss me off. I'm out, Yes, wait,
piss me off one time my mouth. Yeah, that's where
I am at.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
And we're not married. That's why neither of us are married.
I do.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
I would love like a divorce party would be nice,
but I want a divorce like trip, like a Bapterrett
kind of like for my divorce.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
That's better because it also there's an escape. I mean,
it symbolizes the escape from yeah, your past.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, we also he this is what was talking about.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
What is on the cusp of divorce.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I think talk about someone who loves getting divorced? Has
she gotten divorced once or twice? Russell Brand? I think, okay,
but it was a big one.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
I forgot overall trying to get over it. So recovering from.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, she has healed, but we have not actually.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, not to take it here and go back this
far culturally, but her with Traviy McCoy. Wow, that was
his name, right, It was that the she was video
took a look at my girlfriend. No, no, no, I'm
holding him. There's a mic rad here.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, but I remember this song, but I do not
remember this man.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I know what were they dating?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
They were dating hard.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
People forget that.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
They did a lot for like interracial couples.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's yeah, wow, I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, it was grow up she was.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
But she was so classic black hair bangs dating old
guy like and it changed fast, like.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
When she went blond, that was like a bad day.
That was a bad It was like a rough few
months for a song.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Did she go blonde and go pixie cut at the
same time.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, you have to pick one, BITCHI struggle.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh my god, Sam, what do you think is the
Katie stan.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I So it's funny. Did you call me a Katie Stan.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Are you a Katie Cat?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
You are? I just find it interesting, you know. It's
it's more that I've remained the same, relatively positive towards Katie,
but the culture has shifted to hating her so much
that in contrast to them, I look like a Katie Stan.
But I do feel that we are due for her comeback,
and I even feel that we're almost due. Not Britney level,

(21:39):
but there's gonna be like a reckoning you were so
mean to her, You were so mean to her and
she's actually a good person or something like that.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
U two things. I am a Katie Cat. I will
stand on it, thank you. So I think there's.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Always gonna be one.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Talk about how j Loo is like getting there's like
the j Loo hate wave, which I don't honestly really
I'm driving the bus by.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
The way, yeah I'm saying too too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
But now there's like the Jlo like anti hate train.
I just saw Isaac Gonzalez maybe last night or today
post like everyone stopped being mean to Jlo, Like she
really put herself out of and I'm like, wait, she
burned twenty million dollars of her own money down because
she wanted to make a vanity progress sure, across three mediums.
That's her business. That doesn't above me.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
The thing with the anti backlash about Jalo is it
is so clearly funded by Jalo. Yeah, there is no
grassroots movement. There is no free Britney movement for Jail.
It's literally just her being like, Okay, what did they
do for Britney, Let's do that, and she's hiring a
crisis PR team. But I do so you think it's
gonna happen for Katie because I think it's going to

(22:47):
happen for uh Gaga because I think in a post
nerd tech world, everyone feels so comfortable being rude to Gaga.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, there's the Gaga backlashes, only just to be gone.
I predicted this on our LA Live show a few
weeks ago. I think we're about to get hardcore into
Gaga backlash era. It's going to be art pop times two.
I think people are going to be absolutely rancid towards her.
And I'm afraid because as someone who has to live
out loud and be honest, I'm going to be fighting

(23:14):
for my life and being like and being like, no,
you don't understand her. You don't understand her. I'm gonna
be insane for the next year.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Actually, have so many pause up right now, you have
a pause. Your hands are full, like okay, like you're
carrying so much.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know who? He doesn't have pause up for the
only person Billie Eilish. He does not support young precocious
women in these.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Says because you hate women.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's weird. I'm just like, where's the strife? Like,
you can't be famous at sixteen and just like everyone
always loves you, critically acclaimed, commercially acclaimed, and it.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Was out on the red carpet. You do not know
what that's like.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Oh my god, I was outed in high school. It's
way worse.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
It Actually, I would so much rather be outed off
the red carpet. Yeah, come on in middle school? Oh
come on, come on.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, I guess you're sad on your way from the
red carpet to winning an oscar. But you'll get over.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I like when she has a backlash, then of course
I will fight for her. But until then, I'm just
sort of like, Okay, so you're perfect, so you have
no flaws? What is there to latch onto?

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I think there is some real tension, because isn't there
like drama between her and Taylor Swift?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Billy?

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, I think so, that's kind of what I was
reading that.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Billy fans believe that Taylor Swift was like kind of
coming after her by releasing some more delexe editions on
the Heart Heart So Soft Break so long?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
What did you say?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
What is the album?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
You just cursed us?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
What did you in my life?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
That's exactly what I said.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
So soft? Well, sorry, I don't know what someone write
because here's actually kind of better than the real last
and she was in the room with us, right, I'm
like ripping Carr found dead.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I actually do want someone to write down whatever that was.
And then so softly, so low, Yeah, something crazy happen?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, wait should we? I'm almost like, let's rush into
our for a segment, get it out of the way,
and then really get into the topic. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I think that's genius.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Okay, So our first segment is called straight Shooters, and
in this segment, we test your familiarity with in complicity
in straight culture by asking you a series of completely nonsensical,
rapid fire questions and you just have to follow your
instinct and choose one thing or the other thing. And
the one rule is you can't ask any follow up
questions about how the game works. And if you do,
we will go absolutely crazy on your ass. I will

(25:47):
out you on the red carpet and I will not
feel any remarse. Got it, Sam, take it away?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, it's Charlie baby, or it's Marley and May.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Charlie Baby, Charlie baby, for sure, you'll not believe this.
My first one is also Charlie. Okay, Charlie XCX or
trying PCP.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Charlie XCX.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I just want my I feel like I was on
PC when you asked me trying PCP once?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Why not get out of the way, Okay, rinse and
repeat or mince my damn.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Meat legally, rinse and repeat right now?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, or Haley's dad eminem.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
You both deserve jail time, by the way, I just
want to get that on the record.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Why do you think you moved to la He's escaping.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I got it now, I got it.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Ladies and gentlemen. What was Haley's dad eminem?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, ladies, okay, fine?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Knowing Blueska dude, and we can too. Were voting blue
no matter who?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Jesus you kidding, Zolu?

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I think, love of God, we are reclaiming vote blue
no matter who. Now, in the world of this podcast
no longer has any political ventage. So Catholic reffic came
on the podcast and told us to vote blue no
matter who, and it has now become an inside joke,
completely divorced from any reality, to the point where I
want to make merch that just says vote blue, no
matter who, but it's not about the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Is ironic?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, you need some kind of actually me getting dressed today,
but voting matter who is very blue today almost.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
You are, thank God.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, A small and tasteful wrist tattoo or please don't
be wasteful with your use of shampoo.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
A small and tasteful wrist tattoo.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh wow wow, okay that being like the one that
you're like, wow, what grein conscious?

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay, TJ Max or HBO's hacks, which conveniently is on Max.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Oh, and I'm glad you brought it up. When I
tell you TJ Maxwell, I die. And also I would
actually rather die than watch oother season of Hacks.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, I would say just make a Maxiini sta out
on me because why not? But I haven't watch Hacks,
so I can't. I can't come out.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
It's just become totally intolerable.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Please welcome jeans smart.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Can I imminder? Come on it?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay? Okay, apple bottom jeans boots with the fur or
that one bottom is me? Do you or do you not?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Concur I want the whole club looking at her, so
you know, going to the farmer, I'm.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Gonna say, apple bottom jeans.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, Wow, you're rate each of our guests performance on
the skilled of zero to one thousand doves? What do
you think? Sam?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I mean? I love that there was disagreement. I love
that there was real thought put in. I'm gonna go
nine hundred and twenty three?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Does I completely agree? There was I could sense the
chemistry between you guys, and there was also like Hunter,
sometimes you would disagree but doing do it while smiling,
which I felt was like so inclusive to be like wrong,
but I love.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
You just because it's pride.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, you're being an ally.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, July, she's a bitch.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Okay, so I think nine twenty three yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I think that's a really good story.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
One of our best recent scores.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
I would say, so, Honor.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, should we get into the topic, yes.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I would love it if two of you could tell
us what the topic you brought is and maybe a
little bit about what's straight about it, which I think
won't be hard for this one.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
What's straight about the sanctity of marri So yeah, our
topic is weddings, weddings, weddings, which has been like actually
a point of contention in our relationship dynamic because Hunter
frequents weddings as if she's paid to do it. And
I've been invited to one one.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
One what wow, wow wow?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
And you're dare I say, you know, I've only just
met you today, But I would think I think if
you as a popular person, is that correct?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
And if you want to say that to each camera, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Think if there's someone who has many friends, it's not
that you are sitting at home. Everyone's hanging out without you,
Mandy Kayla.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
But the thing is, my friends are gay and rare.
I've only got I'm like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Let me tell you something. I've been to a lot
of gay horror weddings, day and they are getting married
and somehow they're fancier than you would expect. And you're saying,
where did this come from?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Because you didn't.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think dynamic. George is similar. George is at weddings
seemingly every single day. It's his vacationient schedule revolves around weddings,
and I've been to one in the last five years. Like,
I'm not even sure if that's true.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Who are the weddings? Like was it family? For people
who don't go to weddings?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
It was like it was a good family. It wasn't
even like, oh, like this like someone I feel like
the ideal wedding because I think about this all the
time because I don't get invited to weddings. Is someone
that you're not like best friends with, but close enough
where you'll have a good time, you'll get wasted, and
you'll just like you'll just key with all the girls,
Like that's what I want to be, Like, I want
to care enough to think about crying, but I'm not weeping.
But I haven't gotten that.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
It was just like and then you don't have to
be involved to no one's going to be like, can
you take care of the.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Floors, and I'm like, oh gosh, I would hate to
be asked to do a favor on a wedding day,
not to be rue.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah I am. I okay, I'm kind of like doubling
back on my point. But I am going to be
in a wedding.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Made Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't even know what that's what it's called, right, Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Straight wedding, lesbian, straight, heterosexual.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I wish was a prople wedding. It's my it's my throuble. Yeah,
I'm going to be in the wedding. Yeah, let's be clear.
But in October October, I.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Think, what are you gonnaware? I've never been a bridesmaid before.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
The color is red, I think, so, oh sorry, if
everyone's getting this incredible and red, so I think, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I can imagine you're looking stunning and red.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Thank you, Panta.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
What are all these weddings you're going to?

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, just friends.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
I'm from Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
My boyfriend is from Kansas, so there are just a
lot of weddings in the.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Midwest and the Plains. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Last year we had I think in total nine, this
five or six. The year before we probably had five.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Huh. Yeah, it's interesting because I also go to a
lot of weddings. But I mean the places I've lived
in the States are San Francisco and New York. Like
I my boyfriend is from New York. It's not a
sort of there's no Oklahoma coated element to it. It's
just like I have a lot of lesbian friends who
keep getting married.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Where are Why are they calling me?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
They've heard the by allegations on me though they said
not her.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Y no, But I really I've been going to so
many I would say more gay weddings and straight weddings
in the last two years, both gay men and gay women.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
So maybe that's counter to our point of it being.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
No, I think weddings are still straight even if gay
people are the ones getting married. Yeah, it's like the
one I have the patriarch I want to say, this
is okay, here's what big idea I just thought of.
Weddings are away for gay people to microdos heterosexuality. Polly
amory is a way for straight people to micro dose queerness.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Thoughts genius, no notes yet, No, No.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I'm not trying to do the transit of property and understand,
but I think I'm hunter as an ally.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
It's literally like a straight couple, like a men and
men and women couple going on field looking for a
third is there way to be like what if we're
bad a little bit? And then for gay people it's like, okay,
well I just took forty three loads on a two day.
How about we get married and like for a little
you know, for two hours, we can be respectable.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, and the good about it there's like poppers.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yes, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I feel like that the act of getting married is
so and just like the background of marriage. There is just.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Such a formality though to like how even like weddings
that are a little bit non traditional are pretty traditional,
like everyone does like changing of vows, like the rings
or sorry in some cases a walk.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh god, really nice one.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
So we got told about that.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
We have to dress and we have to address in
the room.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
No, let's get into it, because it was well so funny.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
You know. I do think actually that part of my
personality is in there and sometimes she comes out in
a sort of scary way. What happened was Peyton I
was saying, you know, I'm planning a wedding, and Peyton
I could sense was looking for a ring. She was
sort of like looking directly at my fingers, and so
then I go, I point to my engagement watch, and
I go, it's this thank.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
You for me true to history because it was like County.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
It was kind of harsh. I cannot believe I did that.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Like I sat back in my oh yeah yeah. On
this podcast, I said, no, you're so real.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
For that King God, Yeah, Georgia, I'm glad you did that.
I'm glad you stood up for yourself and.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
A lot of that without me wanting. I'm not trying
to be a girl who's like he asked the question,
he popped the question, But then people do look for
something and I do keep being.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Like, okay, not I can respect though, because I do
have this whole complex about when women post photos at
their hands, like the engagement ring, like photo and their
nails aren't done like.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
I when I tell you no, like real.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
My friends know I have screenshots on my phone from
like taking and like sending them around. So I'm like,
can you believe this? Can you believe this? You have
a big old hangnail and a rain that costs a
million dollars? Is actually I'm thinking about someone very specific.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yes, yes, I actually think I am at my most
conservative and at my most frankly misogynist. When a woman
doesn't have her nails or toenails, I'm literally like, all
progresses out the window.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
It's you and club.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yes, not even a top coach.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
If I see someone in sandals without with like ugly
ass nails, I'm like, what are you doing? Put on
a pair of converse Chuck Taylor's brow up.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, I celebrate them, I want to say. I think
the straightest part about the marriage is that it is
like such a life like you're like, it's it's in
the linear style of life where you're like, Okay, so
I went to school, I went to college, I had
my graduation, I had my blah blah blah, I got
my job, and now I have my marriage. Yes, it's

(36:48):
so like, okay, we have to follow this path.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's not queer temporality, a term I learned recently. Oh yeah,
I don't what is that temporality? According to TikTok I
saw is that because queer people don't, you know, sort
of don't have the traditional markers of a traditional life,
they have a like non normative relationship to time. True.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
True, That's why I'm always exactly yeah literally yeah, and
I'm black, so double nothing. I get fifteen minutes, thirty
thirty five. Yeah it stuff. Wait, I was gonna say, though,
it's I feel like it's more of me wanting to
go to a party, like a wedding is what's calling
me to wanting to attend a wedding or you know,
celebrate the sanctity of marriage. It's not like the idea

(37:33):
of like, oh, partnership and that's calling me, Like, I
don't feel like I'm doing that thing, like turn thirty
years old and like, oh my god, I need to
get married. I'm on a path. I just want to
turn up like totally that's what I'm.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
And I do think that's the difference between queer people
and straight people. Attending weddings is oftentimes with straight people,
and I'm hitting in broad strokes here. Either it's like,
oh God, I have to go to my stupid bitch
friend's wedding and I hate her and whatever, I'm resentful,
or it's like eternally single and like depressed that the
wedding and gets too drunk because somehow she's like twenty

(38:05):
four and thinks it's too late for her, or it's
like dark like asshole, like woman who's mad at her boyfriend,
or like because they're attending the wedding and he refuses
to put on you know, shoes, Like he refuses to
put on like dress shoes. Yeah, yeah, whereas queer people

(38:25):
are literally like, oh, this is my chance to basically
dress as I'm going to Charlie XX and Troy.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
We just do it for attention, yes, yeah, which is
the only reason.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
To get It's literally like going somewhere knowing there will
be a photographer, Like now I get, I understand what
we're doing.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I yeah, I do think there's something about like wanting
to do the main character of a wedding, yes, when
it's like absolutely not your I mean, I'm a Leo's
that's kind of every day for me, but like wanting
to really like cause a scene, make a moment, and
it's not only like guess. I feel like a lot
of speakers at weddings will do this sometimes. And I
love a bad wedding speech, oh I remember, not even

(39:04):
like bad, Like this actually was one of the greatest
wedding speeches I've ever like heard, but it was so
funny and so like, wait, this is your wedding, Like congratulations,
you just want this wedding? Like sister of the writer's
speech was incredible and I remember every word like it
was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Why do you think it's people's first time being creative
a lot of times? Yes, And like both writing the
speeches and the people throwing the wedding at all, like
they've never had to make a creative choice, like they're like, oh,
what color do we want the card to be? Like
what what should the tablecloths look like? And in a
way that I'm like sometimes it's so deeply revealing in

(39:41):
a way that they normally get to hide. Yes, and
I'm like, oh, this is what you like?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent that I feel like, I like,
we sound like such snops as members of the creative clubs.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Of course, members of the creative class.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know, some people don't even have a podcast or
a substat Yeah, that's really some people in Ohio. Every day?

Speaker 5 (40:01):
How do they do it?

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Like like oh my god, but really and truly I'm like,
oh my gosh, Like, oh, you're like not a public speaker.
That's crazy, Like oh interesting, that's like not really a punchline,
but it's a sentence.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
You don't have a musical theater background. Shit.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
From the perspectives of the couple are like, wait, this
is the friend you chose knowing he this is not
his strong suit and he's literally the first sentence is
we met sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
What.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
There is a thing though that I've encountered where straight men,
let's talk about it.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Straight men think that every speech is a roast.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
That's the old way they know how to express like
adoration of like someone that they've known their entire lives
is to like roast them and really inappropriate way, like
for the setting. And I've heard that so many times
and it's just like kind of shocking in a new
way every time.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I'm like, interesting, Yeah, street men love to roast.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
There's like a there's they don't trust themselves just be
funny without being mean. They're like, well, if it's not mean,
then what's funny about it?

Speaker 3 (41:04):
If I'm not mean? How well they know that I
like that I like her like or like I like
my brove here if I'm not fucking like horrible to them.
That's also they treat women too, though, Yeah, I mean
I went to middle school. I don't know about you,
but it's like skipped it.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Actually you're actually fifteen. You're younger than fifteen.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Fifteen oscars, What am I doing?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Fifteen?

Speaker 6 (41:26):
No oscars in the middle of miamiscars in the middle
of Miami.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Wedding every night. I know that was gonna land. I
was like, this is gonna be I actually recently revisited
We actually can't get into this, but I recently revisited
that song and I was like, sometimes it's important to
go back and be like, oh, this is where we
were and that was okay.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
I recently also rewatched the music video and it's same,
this is like.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Odd, yeah, it really is just straight.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
We actually should have known better. We got God. Like, yeah, anyway,
I Zaleen Banks is what I just called And that's
actually more powerful than you would know.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
That's actually really it's like pop Craves Burner.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Wait, I did have a thought. I had a thought
about marriage besides the need to be invited to a
wedding is I feel like weddings are straight, but divorce
is so gay and specifically lesbian because it's like, oh,
I'm in tune with what I need, and I'm tapping
into my truer self, and I'm ready to evolve lesbian

(42:36):
a hundred.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I think weddings, straight divorce is lesbian. And I think, actually,
in a weird way, being together forever but unhappy is
gay man. Because what gay men have realized is that
because they're all open, being deeply unhappy with their partner
is like not an issue.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
I'm learning so much to be surely.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
She's like there like statistics about like gay men stay
together longer than like straight couples and lesbians because of
exactly what you're saying, George.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes, no lesbians. It's like there needs to be, you know,
a un tribunal every time they're like about to cook
dinner or something.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Lights.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, I can tell you some stories. Let's talk about
a check in.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, okay, No, gay man. It's just like they actually
just get more and more passive aggressive. I keep saying
this and it never lands. But a classical thing with
old game ale couples is two men together at an event.
Another man walks in that they both know, and one
of them turns to the other and goes, oh, look
at your boyfriend. And that is that is being a

(43:42):
gay man when you're like fifty five and have been.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
You know what's crazy is you saying that reminded me
of Hunter? Like I was like, that actually seems like
something you do really well as a gay man. It's
like an older gay man. You love to talk shit,
you love to beef.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
You're selling it to me, You're selling.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
It like hold on, you've made.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Some obsessed with pop culture like who are you?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, sounding pretty gay guy.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
It's getting gay guy.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm trying to think because I know we're running out
of time, but I'm like, okay, we've covered wedding speeches.
We've covered Oh so you said something really smart Hunter,
which is that like, even when you try to not
do the traditional things, it almost makes it more traditional
because you are like referencing the like if you are wearing,
you know, a bright yellow wedding dress, it's actually weirdly
more straight than if you're wearing a white wedding dress

(44:32):
because you're trying so hard to be different in a
way that is like, oh no, this is your one
this is like your one chance to be different, and
then you're going to go back to your job at
the firm.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, that sounds so like bone chilling. Yeah, this is
your one day. As said, it's like your one day
to be created, Like this is what you choose.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Are we being like bitchy?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Well yeah, hopefully landing.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I wait, one time I went to wedding and this guy,
this like older man, came up to me. I was
like dancing with some friends and he like taps me
and he's like, you're so beautiful and I'm so old.
That's where it ended, and I was like, no, just
a cold straight man.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
It was so weird.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
But like, was was he hitting on you?

Speaker 5 (45:18):
I don't think so, because his wife was right there
and she was looking him so crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
It was.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
It was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
But I think there's like something about someone getting so
drunk at a wedding and like really like there's a
way to be the main character to the wedding, like
when you're everyone's like fan favorite, but there's also way
when you just like are embarrassing, And that's like a
whole other don't You wouldn't know You've never been so
many weddings.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
And I'm wait, whoa, sorry, there's a gun in the
room and it's pointed out my head and it's about
to go off. It sounds like I'm sorry, there's blood everywhere.
It was right there and it was so nasty because
I just went, yeah, shut up. It's like, sorry, I
just thought I heard something over here.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
But I think you are I think that I am
so old. Thing points to the fact that at a wedding,
because you're seeing someone else's big life event, yeah, it
forces you to sort of take a step and be like, wait,
where am I in life? And I think that's why
some people can be so happy because they're like, oh,
isn't it amazing that like I'm happy and they're happy
and we're celebrating together. And then if you're not happy,
suddenly you are crying and telling Hunters is beautiful and.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
You're so old.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
So well, there are like a million different hierarchies within
the wedding because there's like the bridal party has more power,
like the groom and the bride have all the power
that there's like it's so much there's power dynamics. But
also if you're sort of a tertiary character, then there's
power in like are you young and hot or are
you like some old rando, Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (46:43):
And just the like confluence is that a word of
all of these like social dynamics, Like I'm like not
to be red with like sometimes having your work friends
meet your like actual friends who meet your like friends
that you used to go out with when you're twenty four,
Like that's I can't think of anything more humiliating.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, most people were not meant ton no over episode,
no one asked.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Yeah, they were not meant to be in the same room,
especially me, like in front of everyone. Oh my god,
I've took all my feelings to an audience.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
We do it every week.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
And the old the archetype of the old rando at
a wedding is actually really important because these are the
people that actually are like an aunt and uncle that
are most happy for the bride and groom, and yet
everyone else is like, who the hell are you and
why are you not a designer? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, when I go to a wedding of a college
friend and I see their uncle and like, get the
hell out of my sight.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, you're like, we're this is the LGBTQ plus community
in Brooklyn. You are not welcome here.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, I'm about to take my shirt off and you're
not allowed to look get.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
The hell out of my sight.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
So I do think that there are a lot of
things about weddings that are not straight, and that's like
a thoughtful touch. A thoughtful touch is like a not
straight element of a wedding I love, like a like
a gift basket in the room I love. I've been
to a couple weddings where they have handwritten notes at
your like place and like, oh, like that's amazing, Like

(48:04):
those things are also.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
That's her faith. Weddings are very or a way to
queer a wedding to be inclusive.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Of course, that's very coexist.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Very very exists with back PRIs exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah. I also think the okay thing at the wedding
is like why are they taking pics of the guys
getting dressed? Why is that always the thing, like you
have to get a pick of the guys in the
underwear and the total getting yes.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
And actually I want to say that picks in general.
The reality show like circus of a wedding is kind
of queer because it's like, for one day we are
the cast of the real world San Diego, Like there
are literally like four camera groups. Yeah, while Grandma is
putting on her way.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
And I've been to weddings too where like one like
like camera guy is in the way at the photographer
liked with like a film camera, and like the interfighting
between them is hilarious. Is this one saying get out
of my shot? Out of my shot and he's like,
it's like you don't really need b roll of? Like
I don't know someone like looking up at the ceiling

(49:05):
like there's nothing running a like cathedral that stuff. I
really love to see the drama between wishing the staff.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I hope it's like, well, maybe I'm like planning planning
my wedding. I'm so far from so many things, and
I haven't gone to the wedding.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
So far from so many things. Album actually that.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Oh my god, there's so many things we need to
write down and put in likes and like ital size is.
I would love actually like a confessional booth out away
like oh my god, John need just the BT. What
am I gonna do with that? Yes on my post
on my TikTok No. I want a confessional. I want
people sitting down wasted Jersey Shore style kind of hopefully
talking about me.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Actually, and actually I have been to a wedding where
it's something like that happened.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
This was two summers ago. I went to a wedding
where they had like a phone.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
This is like, it's just happened to watch and you
can like record a voice so for the couple for
them to listen to and my friends.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Unfortunately, like the file was corrupt. It was like they
just they just didn't record anything.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Sorry, that's what actually, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
That's issues a career art failure.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Earlier.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yeah, the phone. Okay, so that was at a wedding
I went to recently and I didn't do it because
audio only almost felt like too much pressure. As I
do think if you go into a booth and it's
sort of photo booth vibes, you can go with someone,
it's less pressure. Yeah, I love a confessional booth. Wow,
this is I love.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I also want to know, okay, sponsor me someone that's.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Weird you have never been to a wedding, because you
actually have some great ideas well.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Sometimes when you haven't been, when you haven't experienced something,
you come at it with a fresh approach.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
That's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
You can be a destructor.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
It's so derogatory. Actually like, shut the fun up all
of you. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Wait have we Okay? One more thing is, of course
dad giving away the bride.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
I would never That's like my actual only opinion. If
I ever had a wedding, I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Would you do? Because I've been seeing more and more
both parents, which I think is sweet. Also, not everyone
has two parents, and not everyone has a man and
a woman parent. That's right. I'm in cloud inclusive like
wrapping up Katie parents. But I'm saying, if you do
have to, I do think that's a nice way to
just like still have that tradition, but do it in

(51:21):
a less sexist way.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
I think, no, no, no, no no. If I'm walking on
the aisle, I'm walking on the aisle.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Oh this is listen. I don't want to be sext
model for nothing.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
You're literally a rotten way walking flower girls, like the
fuck up out of my way?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, and you're doing the like fun tyre walk when
she because you're I feel like, maybe I'm wrong, but
I feel like her innovation was rather than walking sort
of seriously, she would walk and be like and I
could walk down the aisle.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, Miss Jay is critiquing a part the whole time. George,
are you thinking of ways to queer your wedding?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh my god, that is a really great question. My dream,
which I have not emailed them yet, is for everyone
after the wedding to walk to Julius and to have
like a big, like sloppy gay night after the fancy.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yeah. I love a mix of high and low completely.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Thank you for saying it.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Calling it low is not like, but it's true. No, Yeah,
the vibe.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
There's also, I mean, as anyone we know, I'm sure
I feels when they get buried. You have such conflicted
feelings about doing it because you're like, oh god, with
everything happening, I'm my ever mixed feelings about gay marriage
or whatever, and so you're like, okay, well, at least
we can like be having you know, chicken tenders at
Julius and pretend that we're still all comedy.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah, at the very you deserve.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Oh you know what, Actually, I have a really huge
way that I'm quarrying my wedding, and I think this
is going to elicit some gasps. Oh so I specifically
chose my aunt or not biological, but you know, spiritual
spiritual aunt to.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Get that no.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
To officiate, and she is a Freudian psychoanalyst. So I
will have my wedding, my gay wedding, officiated by a
Freudian psychoanalyst. And I do think that's pretty queer. Am
I wrong? So I was like, oh, like that's our
way of queering. The the concept of like a religious
figure is to have a therapist, literally a therapist.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
No, I do love that, but I do have to
say I didn't gasp.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
All right, well you guys have seen it all.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
It was so dirty of you. Oh I love that.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
I didn't guess, didn't know that all of them were.
I don't know how alternative I'm being because they don't
have anything to compare it to.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
It's okay one day.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, well Sam's coming to mind. I invited him as
his re make a wish because he's been Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I do have, for the record, two weddings this summer.
One is yours and one is Mike and Mike's two
gay weddings, my first gay weddings ever.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Okay, yeah, I'm gonna go protest.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Damn. It's kind of crazy that I think, you know,
I think my wedding is gay. And then these two
guys are named Mike and Mike. Yeah, they kind of
ate me.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Okay, should we do our final segment, Sam?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Okay. Our final segment is called shout Outs, and this
is a segment where we pay homage to the oral
straight tradition of the radio shout out. I think you
know you're a TRL shouting out the people you know outside.
You're on Z one hundred, chatting out your spot back home.
You have to give a shout out to something that
you like, and we always think of them on the spot.
So I will think of one right now. Okay, all right, Sam,

(54:47):
do you have one?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I have a I can I can do one. Okay,
go Okay, what's up everyone around the globe? Freaks, losers,
perverts all. I want to give a huge shout out.
Yes it's obvious, But to Charlie XC, I am you know.
Do I know her personally? Of course not, but I
feel like I do. And she is a girl who
always knows exactly who she is. And sometimes I listen

(55:10):
to her music and I'm like, this is the coolest
bitch on earth, And sometimes I listen to her music
and I'm like, this girl's kind of dumb, huh. And
I love that she can be kind of both and
I think that is so powerful. And sometimes I like
she's a person that confuses me in a way that
I'm like, thank you, I like to be confused. And
I like that she knows what is cool but doesn't
always do that. And this is supposed to be in

(55:33):
support and I do love her, and I think I'm
excited for to really get to know the new album
and this is coming out. We're recording this on the
day the album came out, so you know, by the
time it's released, I will know every single word. But
right now, I'm just saying, wow, this is a pile
of songs that I have yet to get to know.
Charlie XCX, you are cool, you are stupid. I celebrate

(55:57):
you and like that you're in this niche not niche,
but middle ground, not quite Lady Gaga but not quite
let's say indie artist xoxo.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Whoo wow, that's really good.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
You know, I think maybe I'll do a music when
inspired by you. We're very like popcirlies today. Okay, okay,
what's up? Times Square I want to give a shout
out to the people in charge of Spotify Partnerships at
Chapelone HQ and Sabrina Carpenter h Q. Every single time
a song ends that I'm listening to, I either get
espresso or I get good luck Babe, both songs I

(56:33):
generally like, I have nothing negative to say about them.
I've heard them at this point, I actually don't need
to hear good luck Babe. After I'm done listening to like,
you know, Fiona Apple, like, maybe let's feed some more
data into the algorithm and then we'll start talking. Because
I'm sensing that this is not AI, this is human intervention.
There is human intervention happening. That is non stop feeding

(56:56):
me good luck babe by chaperone, and I support her.
But it is time that I am served something else.
So this is my flee to the tech industry. Let's
get those algorithms back in there and let's start training
them because it's not looking good. That's right, I would myself.

Speaker 7 (57:13):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
So important.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
So yeah, whenever you guys are ready, those are hard.
I mean it's like, okay.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
What's up people on the internet who put your hairs
in your ear and I'm ready to shout out my
friend bald and Down. She is so cool and her
posts are so good, and there's no one who genuinely
loves Hoppenheimer as much as I do and also knows
it's a movie about gossips and haters and.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Bald and doubt.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
It's kind of like I would choose to read her
tweets before I even read my own teets, and that
is something that I don't say about anyone else.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
That's kind of the high phrase. I think, Wow, that's
my sister. I'm sticking to her.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
And I want to say, bald and Down shout out
from us. First of all, we are on record as
being the number one Oppenheimer stands in the country, So
I feel glad we can connect from that. Okay, and
posted about us the other day, and I was very flattered,
very starstruck, and I said, I hope we can maintain
your support, queen, because you know, sometimes these Twitter accounts
will turn on you.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Fast, fascinating you blink of an eye, no like highest honor, baldoon. Okay, Okay, alkay, you.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Know I love those.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I love an airhorn edited in later make it sound cool.
Lovers haters. Children of divorce, This one's for you, my
ing circle. Shout out to divorce. Shout out to specifically
my parents who got divorced in two thousand and eight.
I was the most epic thing that's ever happened. Shout
out to Cole Kidman. Shout out to my entire personality
that's built around the trauma that I had from that divorce.

(58:46):
That wouldn't be this funny or gay without it. Somehow,
I don't know how to explain that, and I won't.
So if you are married and unhappy, get up, get
out and go girl, get divorce. That's my that's my pitch.
And if you want to get divorced and you are
maybe gay now and you're a really beautiful woman, then
you want to find me, you could do that too.
So we love divorce in this house. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Wow, I love that.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Well. Thank you both so much for doing the podcast.
Everyone can listen to Let me say this your podcast
wherever they listen to podcasts. Yes, can I say the
word podcast anymore time?

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Keep going, keep going?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah. Hunters newsletter Hung Up is on literally substack dot com.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yes, Hunter, and I'm on Instagram is at Hunter h
and Peyton is.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
At Peyton Dick's.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Imagine how your whole name is your handle? That's so sexy.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Yeah, I have people on the inside. I may not
be at weddings, but people on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
You know what, it's crazy. I also have my real
full name on Instagram. There you go.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Wow e wait wait, so twins, I'm the only one
who doesn't. I'm Hunter H. Why Why was I fourteen
and I chose Hunter H or not just Hunter? That's
been so good.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
It's my favorite house. Z Way is still z Way
f because someone refuses to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
That's so funny about to keep it up. It's it's
art like one of us. We have a burnercount.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
It's just do it. Wow. We'll shout out to add
z Way wherever you are hold on that account.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Well, thank you guys for doing the pod.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
This is so fun.

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