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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You get ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua
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pe Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be
bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and
weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more.
And on this edition of the show, I'm going to
tell you the complete story of one of the weirdest
experiences of my life. And it happened while investigating Roswell,
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New Mexico. To be honest with you, for many years,
I have been banned from officially talking about this. But
it's been fifteen years ago now and I'm ready to
tell you almost everything. It's a long story, so I'll
jump right in and do the best I can. Over
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the years, I have been on many television shows on
many different channels and networks, And in two thousand five,
I was on my way from North Carolina, where I
lived at the time, to the Los Angeles area to
be talent on a show called Possessed Possessions, which was
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actually a two hour Halloween special that would air on UM.
It was gonna air, you know, later that year on
t l C, the Learning Channel, which I believe at
that time was owned by Discovery. You know, these these companies,
they're always playing monopoly with their networks. And anyway, that show,
it was hosted by James Van Prague. Possessed by Possessed
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Possessions was kind of like an antiques roadshow for haunted
and cursed items, and so we had people bringing in
all this spooky stuff from around the country and really
the world for that matter, and I analyzed things technically
using gadgets and gizmos, and then um we had a
couple of psychics that I met for the first time,
Karen Reese and Laura Lee, who would come in and
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they would bring their expertise and it was actually a
really cool show. Well, when I was preparing to go
to l A to do that, I received a call
from a ducer and director, a very significant figure in
the TV business named Jim Castle, who owned Castle Digital
and Jim Castle was familiar with me for a number
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of reasons, but especially listening to me be interviewed on
Coast to Coast A m and Jim he's the winner
of numerous Emmy's. Uh. He was born in l A,
has worked in the TV business his entire life, even
been an instructor or a professor in film schools that
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sort of thing, and has many claims to fame. One
of them is he is very talented artist and he
actually was the guy who sat down and with his
own hand drew the now famous logo for the TV
show Cheers. But also he worked on the X Files,
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and that is what really poised him for were the
position he was in calling me to let me know
that he had a TV series pilot that had been
greenlit by Discovery Channel. Now, of course that means it's
been approved and they're ready to shoot it, and he's
ready to cast the thing. And he said it was
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going to be called x ops X, meaning like the Unknown,
just like in X Files, and then OPS being operations,
and it was basically like a team concept. This is
the most common thing that has pitched at me all
the time and the TV business, the team investigator concept.
We're gonna put the Scooby Doo gang together and send
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him out and investigate something. And most of the time
these days, I don't even I don't even consider offers
like that because it's just, you know, it's I've done that.
I'm I'm interested in more creative things than But anyway,
at that time, he had a very interesting prospect. For
one thing, I could tell that Jim was a very
very intelligent guy who was truly just absolutely absorbed with
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all of this paranormal content. He really, you know, knew
what he was talking about, and he loved this stuff.
So I, um, I made arrangements to meet with him
while I was in l A. So that was great
that I got to meet him in person. He picked
me up with another producer. They took me out to
a wonderful dinner. And mind you, Discovery Channel fifteen years
ago is um, I believe it's a whole different operation
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than it is now. And so I haven't kept up
again with how everything has changed around and switched hands
and all that. But you know, I have been on
Discovery Channel many times over the years. In fact, I
was just on Discovery Channel, uh and on a show
called Rob Riggle Global Investigator. Great show. Had a lot
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of fun shooting that. Um, but at fifteen years ago,
I don't think that it was the same company so
to speak. You know, on paper, I'm sure it's the
same company, but totally different people. And you know, a
lot of changes in fifteen years. So anyway, Um, he
started telling me about his concept to do a show
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in Roswell, New Mexico. And as soon as I heard that,
I kind of cringe because I thought, oh boy, we're
gonna beat that dead horse again, you know. And he goes, oh,
but listen, because this is a brand new angle on Roswell.
He said, there is a hospital in Roswell which is
on the property of the old Army Airfield Roswell Hospital,
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the one that was there back in you know, when
the crash occurred. And at this new building on the
same property, he has a doctor, a real m d
and numerous nurses who are willing to go on camera
and swear that the hospital is haunted by the ghosts
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of the aliens. Because the story goes that when the
audies were collected and they were taken to Hanger eighty four,
that the first place they went after that was to
basically this hospital where some kind of a preliminary exam
or autopsy was done. And so now this is getting
interesting because we're not just talking about an alien story
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or a ghost story. It's both. It's ghost of aliens.
This okay, this is sounding promising. And he said that
in fact, this case was brought to him by the
great Jim Mars. This is how I met Jim Mars,
and Jim Mars would later become a really good friend
and uh, you know, sadly, he passed away in two
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thousand and seventeen after an illness. He was seventy three
years old. And this is one of the reasons I
think it's important to tell you this story, uh while
I can, because you may want to to go and
try to, you know, verify or validate some of the
things that I'm telling you, and I want you to
have this information. And so if you're that type of person,
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I can tell you all the people to contact if
you want to know, uh that I'm telling you the
truth in this and this podcast. So I became intrigued
with this, and basically he wanted to put together a
group of seven team members. I would be as usual
like the tech no, the tech gizmo guy, you know,
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and which is fine with me. You know, give me
a meter and uh you know, you know. I used
to say, I I wish I were psychic. I wouldn't
have to carry all these damn meters around all the time.
But it actually also alleviates a lot of stress when
you can look at readings and be like, I'm either
getting this reading or I'm not, you know so. But anyway,
So for the team of seven people on x offs,
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I introduced him to the two psychics that I happened
to be working with on Possessed Possessions, Karen Reese and Laurley.
He loved them both and hired them right on the
spot more or less, and by the way, they are
the most amazing psychics I've ever met. At some point
I will have each of them on this podcast and
we will explore their ability. But people ask me sometimes,
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are there real psychics? Well, most of them are not,
but these two are so anyway, So there you go.
There's myself, those two. That's three people. We of course
needed an imaging specialist, and so I immediately called Brian Irish,
who was the imaging specialist for my Lemur Paranormal Investigation team.
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Uh that was an obvious one. He was a shoe
in and uh so eventually, let's see Jim ended up
casting Nick Redfern. Uh he's a wonderful author on UFOs, cryptos,
all kinds of weird stuff. Nick ended up becoming a
really good friend because of this show as well. Reuben
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your Arte and Ruben is Um he is an expert
on uh UFOs, a spe actually a lot of sort
of Southwestern UFO activity. And then Richard Alanis and Richard
gave us that Native American shaman background that was really fascinating.
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And then Heidi Hollis. Uh so they're actually eight of us.
Heidi Hollis, she is one of the most fascinating people
you'll ever meet or here of um. She has had
a lot of face to face personal encounters with beings
that are not of this dimension or this planet, called
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them whatever you will. So yeah, so that's eight people
see me, Brian Irish, Laurley Karen Reese, Nick Redfern, Reuben
your Arte, Richard Alaniz and Heidi Hollis, and then Jim
Mars was kind of like the Charlie and Charlie's Angels, right,
So he would get us together on the set and say, guys,
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I have a mission, and give us all of the
information and then to designate what everybody's gonna do, and
then put us on our private lear Jet, which, by
the way, the production had a lot of money, and
they even rented our own private lear Jet from John
Travolta seriously, and we then would fly off into whatever
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whirlwind of activity fantasmagoria unearthly encounters that they wanted us
to explore for that particular show. Sounds fun, right, sounds
like we might go out there and actually get to
the truth of some matters. But what happens when you
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actually achieve your goal and you find some truth when
maybe you're not supposed to. I'm going to tell you
what happened when we got to Roswell and maybe discovered
some things, saw some things we weren't supposed to see.
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where every day is golden and every night is silver.
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On a cold November morning two thousand five, Brian Irish
and I boarded airplanes in North Carolina and we arrived
at l a X and drivers picked us up and
took us to San Bernardino, California, where we met the
rest of the ex Ops crew and we all just
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hit it off immediately. It just felt like we were
with old friends, like a big family. Everything was great.
Like I I say, it was the beginning of many
wonderful friendships that I maintained to this day. And you
know they put us up in a great nice hotel there,
and they had reserved the Norton Air Force Bay as
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our set. I'm telling you, Like I said, they had
some money that you know that we're talking about a
real air Force base that was active up until nine
That was our headquarters for this. And they had a
helicopter that would fly around and get shots of us.
And this is before drones were around. And it was
a little scary because they had this kind of a
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small helicopter and if you moved, uh unexpectedly when it
was flying around you, it would cut your head off.
You know, them's were the old days. That's how I
used to make TV kids. So anyway, um, they gave
us all kinds of swag like you wouldn't believe. I'm
talking nice, big, like heavy cortex coats that had x
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OPS and Discovery Channel the Discovery Channel logo embroidered on them,
and caps and boonies and watches. They gave us a watch,
and this watch cost hundreds of dollars. It was a
special Ops watch, I mean, like that had the ex
Ops logo on. It's still one of my most prized
possessions actually, And I mean this was just a top
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notch five star production, right, So within a couple of
days we all, you know, we were ready to go
off as a team and really pursue this great mystery
and get to the bottom of what was happening in Roswell.
So they put us on the jet with all with
the leather interior and the nice, big, fully stocked bar,
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and I mean it was flying and luxury when we
got to Roswell. The one thing I will tell you,
I've only been to Roswell this once, fifteen years ago,
and I don't know how much things may or may
not have changed. But what I can't tell you is that,
at least in two thousand five, there is no reason
to go through that area unless you have an interest
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in the Roswell alien story. There's just nothing else around there.
From the moment we got there, we knew we were
being monitored. Okay, I could tell you stories and worries
and stories about this, but these shady characters, to say
the least, were immediately following us wherever we went around town,
even just you know, stupid stuff going to restaurants or whatever.
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There were a number of occasions when it was clear
that we were being recorded when we didn't know about it.
For example, at one point I was talking privately to
Brian Irish and uh, somewhere out like a hull lobby somewhere,
and there was nobody else around, and he said something
to me like, I wonder if you're gonna have bloody
Mary mix on the on the plane, and I said,
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I don't know, and then like I know, five minutes later,
somebody from the crew was coming through and giving us
notes on stuff, and then they turned to Brian and
go and they said, oh yeah, and there's gonna be
a bloody Mary mix on the plane. And Brian and
I look at each other, like, how the heck did
they know? We just had that conversation, right, so listen,
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I won't go down that wormhole. One of the first
things that we did, however, the rabbit hole, I you
could say, but I like to call it a wormhole. Uh.
We went to the Roswell Army air Field Hospital property
and we did our investigation there, and sure enough, we
had a medical doctor and nurses. This is near to
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the real deal that worked there at that time, and
they sat right down there. I mean, these were active
employees in two thousand five and they told us they
were seeing the ghosts of these aliens that had apparently
been taken there after the Roswell crash. There were animations
that were made, you know, c g I kind of
stuff for the TV show. I did investigation there all night,
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got all kinds of bizarre readings. UM. So we were
off to a pretty good start, and then the day came,
I think it was like day number three when we
were actually going to go out to the site where
the Roswell crash had had occurred. And once you have
to understand is there are a lot of people trying
to make a nickel bye telling you like, oh, oh yeah,
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this is the site where the crash was, and it's
like a tourist trap thing. But no, we we actually
did real research and we got to the bottom of
the place where there was a debris field. Because when
this thing crashed, it didn't just crash at one spot.
Its skidded over miles and there were various deposits of crash.
So we went to the center of that. We had
these UM SUVs that had Discovery Channel emblazoned on the sides,
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and so we all piled into these SUVs and we're
heading out to drive to the crash site. And finally
all of this weirdness of all these people like around
town that are always kind of like spying on us
kind of came to a head because as soon as
we pulled out of the hotel heading to the crash site,
blue lights everywhere, and they pulled our entire caravan over
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and the Roswell police detained our entire group there without
any explanation for a good thirty minutes. I never was
given an explanation for why they held us back. But
when we were finally allowed to go, we drove out
into the desert and we hyped for a long way,
and then you know, we were on federal property. Of course,
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there was like a white suv in the distance watching
us through a telescope very similar to what you've seen
it at Area fifty one. We didn't really find anything
too amazing out there, to be honest, in the desert,
I mean, you can imagine that's been pretty picked pretty clean.
But we were doing a good job, you know, Like
we had been able to investigate the Roswell Museum there
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all night and use thermal cameras, and we got some
weird stuff and like everybody was doing a good job
and getting weird stuff. Well, here is what here's what
makes this story really special. Okay, as we were getting
towards the end of our shooting days because we were
there for about a week, I guess on this extremely windy,
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cold night, we went to Hangar eighty four, which is
just a gigantic, drafty, noise, easy, creepy hanger that is
just out there in the desert, and and that is
where the bodies were supposedly first brought to before they
then went to the hospital for their preliminary exam. And
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so Jim Castle thought it would be cool to do
a seance in Hangar eighty four to see if we
could somehow commune with the spirits of the aliens. Fine,
sounds like a good idea to me too. So he
set up this big, round wooden table and it had
candles all over it, and the whole cast set around
in a circle, and of course the psychics were gonna
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lead all this, and I was just there with all
of my gadgets and gizmos, and I was just going
to sort of roam around the table to some extent,
taking measurements of the energy environment in the room while
this was happening. So it was all dark and spooky,
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and you know, like you say, you hear like these
ed old panels banging when the wind blows, and it
was just a very creepy experience. So the lights were
pretty much turned down except for all these candles, and
the seance seemed to be going pretty well. And I
started picking up this slowly elevating electromagnetic field and it
was getting just like really really spooky, and everybody started
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getting the goose bumps. And they had about five dudes,
big tough guys, surrounding this table um videotaping it from
different angles. And you may not realize that being a cameraman,
a professional cameraman, is a very very tough job. Camera
equipment is really heavy and clunky, and those guys worked
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their butts off, and they had these really expensive cameras
at that time. Each one of their cameras were twenty
dollar cameras. They were high def cameras. And there was
this one guy and his name was Bob, and he
was one of the chief camera guys. And as we
were filming, Bob, who had just been you know, just
like the bulldog cameraman throughout this whole experience, just super tough, strong,
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durable dude. You know. Bob, he starts sort of like
it took us a second to notice it, but he
started kind of wavering a little bit, and then all
of a sudden, in the right in the middle of
this shoot, Bob just passes out, man, and he just
hits the floor, and that this twenty five dollar camera
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goes bang and there is a gasp in the room,
of course, and so immediately, you know, we cut and
everybody goes rushing over to Bob. Are you okay? And
Bob looks like he's kind of out of it. They're
about to call on one and then Bob goes, no,
I think I think maybe I locked my knees or something.
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Let me just go get some fresh air. So we
took him outside. He got some fresh air, and after
like ten minutes he said, Okay, I think I'm fine.
I don't know what happened, but I'm need to go again. Okay.
So we went back in to continue, and so Jim
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Castle starts resetting everything and he had a monitor of
there so that he could sort of look back and
figure out where we were and sort of where we
needed to pick this up from and how we needed
to pick this up right. And so Jim rolls back
the monitor and I heard him say, what the blank? Okay,
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I can't say that word here, but you know the word,
what the And I go over and I said, what
is I was the first one standing right there, and
I said, what is it? Jim? He goes rewind that.
He wound it back once again. He goes, what the
And now I'm going, what the I don't know what
I'm seeing either, all of a sudden, like everybody is
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crowded around us. What is it? What is it? What
is it? He is rewinding the footage back to the
point just before Bob passed out and hit the floor,
and playing it over and over and over. And what
we see is one of the strangest things that I've
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ever seen in my life. Okay, I don't I still
cannot tell you with certainty what category this goes into.
I don't know if you would call this ghostly or
or alien, or antwdimensional or or or something else. All right,
I'm not sure. When we come back from this break, though,
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I'm going to tell you what we saw on this
computer monitor. You know, it was it was. Actually, it's
just that you know, it's a video monitor, is what
it was. I'm gonna tell you what we saw in
this video monitor that we captured just before Bob hit
the ground, and then what happened next. I'm Joshua Pee
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Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast.
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And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
Here we are staring at this monitor in awe and silence.
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Really once we started zoning in focusing on this. Here
you see our table, all of us sitting around it
conducting the seance. The candles are burning, and then all
of a sudden, something appears over our heads that I
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can only describe to you as a huge glowing spectral
serpent or serpent like form. The slithers through the air
over our heads, straight over toward guess who Bob and
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then pal Bob hits the floor. Now, we did not
see the big glowing spectral snake or serpent or whatever
this thing was with our naked eyes. For one thing,
we weren't even looking up. We were all just sort
of focused on really each other and what was happening
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at the table. So it's not a surprise that we
wouldn't have seen it. But this is something that only
showed up on camera. And when I tell you, a
big glowing serpent like thing appeared and slithered over our head.
But I don't know how else to describe, Like, I
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don't know if this is a ghost or an alien
or spiritual being. I mean, I'm gonna I will get
back to more of a recap of what I think
this may be telling us in a minute, okay, But
the effect of seeing this alone was absolutely shocking. But
the fact that it was it went over towards Bob
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and did something to Bob. That is the context. You know.
Here we are in Roswell and Hangarady four where the
alien bodies were brought having a seance. Who's ever done
that before? And capture with the professional crew, this big
thing flying over their head, our head over to the
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cameraman boom knocket into the floor. Like none of us
even knew that was there. How is that possible? When
we when it's sunk in with us what we had,
all of a sudden, our shock and confusion turned into
elation and we started high fiving each other, saying we
don't know what we got here, but this is some
kind of jackpot. This is good TV, man. We have
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reached the climax of the show. You know, we captured
something here that's going to add a whole new chapter
to the lore of Roswell. I mean, that's no small thing.
A place that has been so exhaustively researched, and we've
captured something that's completely bizarre and out of left field,
that's done legitimately captured from numerous camera angles, etcetera, etcetera.
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That is, you know, that makes this kind of an impact.
We were we were just we were celebrating. We felt
we had accomplished enough to make this show a hit.
And in fact, after that and by the way, Bob
was fine, and the long run, we flew back to
Saberdardino to do kind of our wrap up in the
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hangar there at Norton, And this whole time we actually
had with us supervising this big, elaborate, expensive production, two
of the executive producers from the network from Discovery. They
were along the whole time and watching everything, and they
were so excited that they were literally telling me face
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to face and all the other members of the cast,
like you better go ahead and start looking for apartments
in Los Angeles, because you're probably gonna be doing this
show for a long, long, long time. And so basically
when we all parted ways, it was it was actually sad,
but at the same time we were like, we're gonna
be seeing each other get very very soon. And Jim
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Castle said, now I just have to get the rough
cut put together, and then you know, once they see
the final rough cut, we're good to go. I'm sure
they'll love it. How could they not. Everybody is excited
about this, and Jim even said it's okay to go
ahead and start promoting it, go ahead and start talking
it up. So we all went our separate ways, and
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sure enough, we all started talking it up, and and
you have you know, you're talking eight nine people here,
including Jim Mars, going all over the media telling everybody,
get ready, to get ready, get ready. We got something
big and weird and interesting on this new show called
x Ops on the Discovery Channel. And we wait and
we wait and we wait. Crickets, crickets, crickets, crickets, what's happening?
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Week weeks go by, I don't know, maybe six weeks.
One day I got a call from Jim Castle, and
Jim said, Josh, something very strange is going on here.
I said, oh, yeah, what's that? He said, well, it
began with these two producers that I there, the ones
who were with us from Discovery, and I know their names,
and I remember their names, but I'm not gonna say
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their names on this podcast. He said. I started calling them.
We used to talk on almost a daily basis. He says,
I call him and I nobody answers. It just rings
and rings and rings and rings and rings, no voicemail,
no nothing. He said, you know one of them I called.
Finally in a man answered and I said, oh, thank goodness,
this is this is Jim Castle. I'm trying to get
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in touch with blah blah blah, click, hangs up. Jim
calls the network. Uh, this person is out to lunch.
This person out to lunch. Everybody associated with this whole
project is just sort of gone. They've just vanished. And
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finally Jim gets in touch with one of the big wigs,
one of the top people there, and the guy said
to Jim, this is never going to see the light
of day. And Jim goes why, and he says, it's
just it's not going to be released. It's not going
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to be released, and that was the end of it.
Who we got this phenomenal footage and they put this
elaborate thing together and we were told to start promoting it, etcetera.
And now everybody's gone. To this day, fifteen years later,
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I have never heard a peep from those two producers
of Discovery, and nobody knows what happened here. Jim Castle
told me, said, this is amazing, Josh. Because I've been
in TV my whole life, I can says I've worked
on hundreds of shows. I've never ever seen anything like
this before. So here we were promoting this thing all
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this time, and Jim Marris, who was one of the
most outspoken people people ever, he said, well, we gotta
let people know what's going on here. It's gonna make
us look like a bunch of oaths. So Jim gets
on coast to coast a m and he says, screw
this contract and whatever, you know, confidentiality, and he starts
telling everybody what happened. And so after that, all the
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rest of the cast starts talking about what happened, and
suddenly the Discovery Channel is getting overwhelmed, overwhelmed with phone
calls from people saying, we want to see x Ops.
Just put it on once, just to put it on
at two o'clock in the morning, even if it sucks
for some reason, let us decide. And by the way,
it doesn't suck. But I'll get back to that in
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a minute. I actually called the Discovery channel and I
got the operator and I didn't tell the operator who
I was, and I said, yeah, I'm interested in the
x OPS show and when that's going to be released.
And the operator was fortunately a nice lady who was talkative.
She says, we've been getting so many calls from people
wanting us to air that that we have changed our
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phone numbers. It's in the vault. It's in the vault
at Discovery, my friends. To this day, it has never
been aired. And I had of no more information for you.
But you know what, I have the footage. I have
the footage of this thing slithering over our heads. Why
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did they can this, I don't know, but but listen
to this. Just think about this. The headquarters for Discovery
was in Silver Spring, Maryland, a stone's throw from the
n s A, the National Security Agency. We're talking less
than the thirty minute drive and many other secretive government buildings.
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There was a lot of talk about whether or not
we had found something that was a little clue, too
close to the truth, that should not be revealed for
some bizarre reason. What does it all mean aliens, ghosts,
and phantasmical serpents. Well, maybe the answer is simple. Aliens
are more than just creatures from another physical planet. They
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are creatures that are from another dimension altogether. They transcend
normal biology. They are both physical and spiritual. They blur
the line between the physical and non physical, and that
is why there are very very real reports are very
very real aliens, and yet we have such trouble capturing
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them in a test tube or putting them under a microscope,
so to speak. But maybe we can learn more about
the nature of what's happening here if we're allowed to
properly study this footage. Will this ever be released? I
do not know, and at this point, fifteen years later,
(39:47):
I don't even know who would have the power to
release it. I guess Jim Castle would be a good
place to start, if anybody out there is, if you're
if you're a credible person, I don't I don't want
to just here from any Tom Dick or Harry. But
if you're a credible person, if you're a filmmaker and
you want to look into this and follow up on it,
get in touch with me and I'll see if I
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can get you in touch with Jim Castle. It's an
interesting story on many many levels, and I'm fortunate that
I have the footage. But I wanted to tell you
that story while there, while most of the people who
were involved are still alive, can still verify what I
have told you is true, and while there's still a
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chance that some of this may one day see the
light of day. I've never worked on a project so
big that has just been shut down so quickly after
we got something really strange and significant and wild like
that that would have looked great on TV. And yet
that's what happened with the Notorious x OPS project. Now
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you know the story. When we come back, I want
to read you some interesting emails I've gotten from listeners,
always good stuff. I'm Joshua Pete Warren. You're listening to
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back to the final segment of this edition of Strange
Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and I recently gave you a podcast about the so
called Mandela Effect. I've gotten a lot of interesting emails
(44:37):
from doing that podcast. Here is one that came from
Chris in Missouri. He said, in listening to your podcast
on the Mandela Effect, I remembered a conversation I had
with a friend about a particular verse in the Bible
Isaiah eleven six. My friend asked me if I remembered
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reading in the Bible that the lion shall lie down
with the lamb. I said that I did remember reading
that in the Bible, but he directed me to the
actual content of the verse, and it says the wolf
shall dwell with the lamb. He goes on to say,
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and the leopards shall lie down with the child, and
the calf, and the young lion and the fatling together,
blah blah blah. So it's no longer a lion in
a lamb, it's a wolf in a lamb. Does that
sound right to you? And you know, he reminded me
of this. That's actually one of my favorite examples and
I just didn't have time to mention them all. But
it's a good one, isn't it. Chris says, I like
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he and his wife was stunned. He said, how does
one explain that. Here's another email I got from the
Mandela Effect show. This comes from Alan in California. He said,
dear Mr Uren, good evening to you and your wife Lauren.
(46:02):
I am very aware of the Mandela Effect. I too
heard that Mr Mandela had died in prison. I also
heard that Nichelle Nichelle Nichols had died. That's hera of
Star Trek, and then I hear that she is alive
and having some property trouble, you know what. As soon
(46:24):
as he said that, I thought, huh, because I also
could swear that I recently saw a news report that
Nichelle Nichols had died, because I remember them saying, oh,
this was the first time, you know where there was
an on screen kiss of this sort with her and
Captain Kirk and making a big deal out of that
(46:47):
being a groundbreaking moment, and I could have sworn that
I also saw what he's talking. But no, she is
alive and well, Alan says, something is most surely going
on here. He also says thanks again for the forces
of Nature one that you sold me. It works so powerfully.
(47:11):
And your golden ratio tone that's the good Fortune tone,
is working smooth sailing these last two weeks. Please keep
on playing it. Thanks well, okay, I will do that, Alan,
I will play that twenty second good Fortune tone at
the end of this segment. I love all the stories
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I'm getting from people. I've told you some of them already.
You know, some people they put a cup of water
uh in front of it while it's playing, and then
they drink the water and get all this energy or um.
They're They're just so many. Like one guy he said
he put it into a spectrograph machine or program himself,
(47:55):
was and using the patterns to make a different manifestation
and devices. And so I will definitely play that for
you again here on this particular podcast, listen to this testimonial.
Who comes from see this one comes from Crystal in California.
(48:17):
She said, I spent a lot of time learning about organite,
found it to be amazing stuff. By the way, if
you don't know what organite is, at some point, I'll
do a podcast about that. It's a very bizarre substance.
She says, I became a bit obsessed and started making
and selling organite on eBay. I thought it would be
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really cool to be able to see the energy from it,
so I made the Aura Advisor and put one of
my strongest organized pyramids in front of a white sheet
of paper. Now what she's talking about here is if
you sign up for my free e newsletter, then you
instantly received some links to some cool free stuff. One
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is a digital good luck charm. The other is information
on how to make the Aura visor yourself, right there
at home for next to nothing, that will help you
train your eyes to see into other realms. So she
used this information. She said, it did not take much
(49:23):
time before I could see the energy coming from it.
After this period out of this pyramid, she says, after
I relaxed, I found it helps to sort of yawn
and think I can see the energy and then start
to see it. Another thing, I live in a haunted house,
and now I'm not the kind that can see or
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talk to ghosts. I know they're there when they move
stuff or make noise. I do sometimes see them just
out of the corner of my eye, but I'm very
used to it. And I think it's way cool that
when I've been practicing ora viewing a lot each day, well,
one time I saw a whispy, paranormal looking cloud and
(50:05):
another time a little bit of one of my ghosts.
So cool. I hope I get to a point where
seeing this energy becomes more and more normal and natural
for me. For now, I will keep on practicing. Thank
you so much for the info on this. I'm telling
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you if you have not made those aura vision or
I call it, you know, the Aura advisor. If you've
not made that, you can make it for pennies at
your house and you will really open open your eyes
and your mind. I got this testimonial from a lady
(50:46):
in Tennessee. I I could give her name, but this
is sort of personal, so I think I won't put
her name out there. Uh, she says, Hi, Mr Warren,
I know you don't have a lot of time. I'll
keep this as brief as possible. My twenty five year
old son, for almost the last year, would have nothing
to do with his grandmother, would not answer the phone
if it was her, or even get out of a
(51:08):
car to walk ten feet to drop off groceries at
her house. When I did her shopping. That's how bad
it was for no good reason. He basically hated her.
She's a wonderful and kind hearted person, so his hate
was unfounded. I heard about your psionic de materializer product
through your podcast, so I bought it along with the
(51:29):
dog tag with the Pono Pono phrases, which he swore
he would wear. I got the product, set it up,
and he started wearing the dog tag, and although it
was a real struggle for him at first, he started
to say the phrases several times a day. Within two weeks,
his attitude started changing and he was happier and less
(51:53):
stressed out so much. And one day his grandmother called
and I was busy, so I asked him to get
the phone, and he did. He ended up talking with
her about twenty minutes, much to my amazement. Then she
asked if she could take him out to lunch for
his birthday in a few days, and he agreed. It
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just got better after that, and he actually went to
her house to help her do things that she couldn't
do herself. So thank you for making the dog tags
with the phrases that helped my son overcome anger, bitterness,
and I believe self hate, and I can tell you
(52:38):
it was beyond bad. At times I couldn't stand to
be around him exclamation point. Just four little sentences have
made a world of difference in our lives. She put
world in capital letters. If they could change my son,
then they could benefit anybody. Feel free to use any
(53:02):
part of this as a testimonial if you wish. Thanks
again for the miraculous dog tag. Thank you so much
to everybody who wrote to me, um, including of course
this lady from Tennessee. And but I I I'm sad
to report that as of recording this right now, I
only have two of the psionic de materializers left, the
(53:25):
bad buster. I am going to look into making another
batch sometime next year because they have been so popular,
but right now there only two. And if you go
to the Curiosity Shop at Joshua pe Warren dot com
you'll see what I'm talking about. And these things they
do sell out the stuff I put there because they're unique, handmade,
(53:46):
you know, items you can only find there. I also
got a question I want to answer for those of
you who have a de materializer. The question is is
it is it okay to use the word no or
not in the de materializer, like not enough living space,
because this person said, we live in a single wide
and my room is so small I continually hit my
(54:07):
toes on the bedframe. So is it okay to say
not enough living space? Is this the appropriate way to
word this? And yes it is actually because whatever, if
you have a bad buster, a psionic dematerializer, the concept
is whatever you put in there, you are neutralizing. So
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if you put not enough living space, that's all you need,
that's a statement of your problem. So yes, you put
that in there, and now the device is designed to
help you neutralize the concept of having not enough living space.
So that's exactly how you do it. It's okay to
use words no and not or or any other wording
(54:53):
you need, as long as you make sure that you're
not saying the opposite of what you want. You're saying,
I put this thing in here that I don't want,
and that is what you're going to neutralize what you
don't want. All right, Okay, it's time for me to
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play for you once again, the good Fortune tone. It's
twenty seconds. Relax, here we go. That's it for this
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You get ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua
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pe Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be
bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and
weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more.
And on this edition of the show, I'm going to
tell you the complete story of one of the weirdest
experiences of my life. And it happened while investigating Roswell,
(01:17):
New Mexico. To be honest with you, for many years,
I have been banned from officially talking about this. But
it's been fifteen years ago now and I'm ready to
tell you almost everything. It's a long story, so I'll
jump right in and do the best I can. Over
(01:40):
the years, I have been on many television shows on
many different channels and networks, And in two thousand five,
I was on my way from North Carolina, where I
lived at the time, to the Los Angeles area to
be talent on a show called Possessed Possessions, which was
(02:03):
actually a two hour Halloween special that would air on UM.
It was gonna air, you know, later that year on
t l C, the Learning Channel, which I believe at
that time was owned by Discovery. You know, these these companies,
they're always playing monopoly with their networks. And anyway, that show,
it was hosted by James Van Prague. Possessed by Possessed
(02:26):
Possessions was kind of like an antiques roadshow for haunted
and cursed items, and so we had people bringing in
all this spooky stuff from around the country and really
the world for that matter, and I analyzed things technically
using gadgets and gizmos, and then um we had a
couple of psychics that I met for the first time,
Karen Reese and Laura Lee, who would come in and
(02:48):
they would bring their expertise and it was actually a
really cool show. Well, when I was preparing to go
to l A to do that, I received a call
from a ducer and director, a very significant figure in
the TV business named Jim Castle, who owned Castle Digital
and Jim Castle was familiar with me for a number
(03:12):
of reasons, but especially listening to me be interviewed on
Coast to Coast A m and Jim he's the winner
of numerous Emmy's. Uh. He was born in l A,
has worked in the TV business his entire life, even
been an instructor or a professor in film schools that
(03:32):
sort of thing, and has many claims to fame. One
of them is he is very talented artist and he
actually was the guy who sat down and with his
own hand drew the now famous logo for the TV
show Cheers. But also he worked on the X Files,
(03:55):
and that is what really poised him for were the
position he was in calling me to let me know
that he had a TV series pilot that had been
greenlit by Discovery Channel. Now, of course that means it's
been approved and they're ready to shoot it, and he's
ready to cast the thing. And he said it was
(04:18):
going to be called x ops X, meaning like the Unknown,
just like in X Files, and then OPS being operations,
and it was basically like a team concept. This is
the most common thing that has pitched at me all
the time and the TV business, the team investigator concept.
We're gonna put the Scooby Doo gang together and send
(04:38):
him out and investigate something. And most of the time
these days, I don't even I don't even consider offers
like that because it's just, you know, it's I've done that.
I'm I'm interested in more creative things than But anyway,
at that time, he had a very interesting prospect. For
one thing, I could tell that Jim was a very
very intelligent guy who was truly just absolutely absorbed with
(05:02):
all of this paranormal content. He really, you know, knew
what he was talking about, and he loved this stuff.
So I, um, I made arrangements to meet with him
while I was in l A. So that was great
that I got to meet him in person. He picked
me up with another producer. They took me out to
a wonderful dinner. And mind you, Discovery Channel fifteen years
ago is um, I believe it's a whole different operation
(05:26):
than it is now. And so I haven't kept up
again with how everything has changed around and switched hands
and all that. But you know, I have been on
Discovery Channel many times over the years. In fact, I
was just on Discovery Channel, uh and on a show
called Rob Riggle Global Investigator. Great show. Had a lot
(05:47):
of fun shooting that. Um, but at fifteen years ago,
I don't think that it was the same company so
to speak. You know, on paper, I'm sure it's the
same company, but totally different people. And you know, a
lot of changes in fifteen years. So anyway, Um, he
started telling me about his concept to do a show
(06:07):
in Roswell, New Mexico. And as soon as I heard that,
I kind of cringe because I thought, oh boy, we're
gonna beat that dead horse again, you know. And he goes, oh,
but listen, because this is a brand new angle on Roswell.
He said, there is a hospital in Roswell which is
on the property of the old Army Airfield Roswell Hospital,
(06:32):
the one that was there back in you know, when
the crash occurred. And at this new building on the
same property, he has a doctor, a real m d
and numerous nurses who are willing to go on camera
and swear that the hospital is haunted by the ghosts
(06:55):
of the aliens. Because the story goes that when the
audies were collected and they were taken to Hanger eighty four,
that the first place they went after that was to
basically this hospital where some kind of a preliminary exam
or autopsy was done. And so now this is getting
interesting because we're not just talking about an alien story
(07:17):
or a ghost story. It's both. It's ghost of aliens.
This okay, this is sounding promising. And he said that
in fact, this case was brought to him by the
great Jim Mars. This is how I met Jim Mars,
and Jim Mars would later become a really good friend
and uh, you know, sadly, he passed away in two
(07:39):
thousand and seventeen after an illness. He was seventy three
years old. And this is one of the reasons I
think it's important to tell you this story, uh while
I can, because you may want to to go and
try to, you know, verify or validate some of the
things that I'm telling you, and I want you to
have this information. And so if you're that type of person,
(08:01):
I can tell you all the people to contact if
you want to know, uh that I'm telling you the
truth in this and this podcast. So I became intrigued
with this, and basically he wanted to put together a
group of seven team members. I would be as usual
like the tech no, the tech gizmo guy, you know,
(08:25):
and which is fine with me. You know, give me
a meter and uh you know, you know. I used
to say, I I wish I were psychic. I wouldn't
have to carry all these damn meters around all the time.
But it actually also alleviates a lot of stress when
you can look at readings and be like, I'm either
getting this reading or I'm not, you know so. But anyway,
So for the team of seven people on x offs,
(08:48):
I introduced him to the two psychics that I happened
to be working with on Possessed Possessions, Karen Reese and Laurley.
He loved them both and hired them right on the
spot more or less, and by the way, they are
the most amazing psychics I've ever met. At some point
I will have each of them on this podcast and
we will explore their ability. But people ask me sometimes,
(09:11):
are there real psychics? Well, most of them are not,
but these two are so anyway, So there you go.
There's myself, those two. That's three people. We of course
needed an imaging specialist, and so I immediately called Brian Irish,
who was the imaging specialist for my Lemur Paranormal Investigation team.
(09:31):
Uh that was an obvious one. He was a shoe
in and uh so eventually, let's see Jim ended up
casting Nick Redfern. Uh he's a wonderful author on UFOs, cryptos,
all kinds of weird stuff. Nick ended up becoming a
really good friend because of this show as well. Reuben
(09:52):
your Arte and Ruben is Um he is an expert
on uh UFOs, a spe actually a lot of sort
of Southwestern UFO activity. And then Richard Alanis and Richard
gave us that Native American shaman background that was really fascinating.
(10:13):
And then Heidi Hollis. Uh so they're actually eight of us.
Heidi Hollis, she is one of the most fascinating people
you'll ever meet or here of um. She has had
a lot of face to face personal encounters with beings
that are not of this dimension or this planet, called
(10:33):
them whatever you will. So yeah, so that's eight people
see me, Brian Irish, Laurley Karen Reese, Nick Redfern, Reuben
your Arte, Richard Alaniz and Heidi Hollis, and then Jim
Mars was kind of like the Charlie and Charlie's Angels, right,
So he would get us together on the set and say, guys,
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I have a mission, and give us all of the
information and then to designate what everybody's gonna do, and
then put us on our private lear Jet, which, by
the way, the production had a lot of money, and
they even rented our own private lear Jet from John
Travolta seriously, and we then would fly off into whatever
(11:22):
whirlwind of activity fantasmagoria unearthly encounters that they wanted us
to explore for that particular show. Sounds fun, right, sounds
like we might go out there and actually get to
the truth of some matters. But what happens when you
(11:45):
actually achieve your goal and you find some truth when
maybe you're not supposed to. I'm going to tell you
what happened when we got to Roswell and maybe discovered
some things, saw some things we weren't supposed to see.
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On a cold November morning two thousand five, Brian Irish
and I boarded airplanes in North Carolina and we arrived
at l a X and drivers picked us up and
took us to San Bernardino, California, where we met the
rest of the ex Ops crew and we all just
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hit it off immediately. It just felt like we were
with old friends, like a big family. Everything was great.
Like I I say, it was the beginning of many
wonderful friendships that I maintained to this day. And you
know they put us up in a great nice hotel there,
and they had reserved the Norton Air Force Bay as
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our set. I'm telling you, Like I said, they had
some money that you know that we're talking about a
real air Force base that was active up until nine
That was our headquarters for this. And they had a
helicopter that would fly around and get shots of us.
And this is before drones were around. And it was
a little scary because they had this kind of a
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small helicopter and if you moved, uh unexpectedly when it
was flying around you, it would cut your head off.
You know, them's were the old days. That's how I
used to make TV kids. So anyway, um, they gave
us all kinds of swag like you wouldn't believe. I'm
talking nice, big, like heavy cortex coats that had x
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OPS and Discovery Channel the Discovery Channel logo embroidered on them,
and caps and boonies and watches. They gave us a watch,
and this watch cost hundreds of dollars. It was a
special Ops watch, I mean, like that had the ex
Ops logo on. It's still one of my most prized
possessions actually, And I mean this was just a top
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notch five star production, right, So within a couple of
days we all, you know, we were ready to go
off as a team and really pursue this great mystery
and get to the bottom of what was happening in Roswell.
So they put us on the jet with all with
the leather interior and the nice, big, fully stocked bar,
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and I mean it was flying and luxury when we
got to Roswell. The one thing I will tell you,
I've only been to Roswell this once, fifteen years ago,
and I don't know how much things may or may
not have changed. But what I can't tell you is that,
at least in two thousand five, there is no reason
to go through that area unless you have an interest
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in the Roswell alien story. There's just nothing else around there.
From the moment we got there, we knew we were
being monitored. Okay, I could tell you stories and worries
and stories about this, but these shady characters, to say
the least, were immediately following us wherever we went around town,
even just you know, stupid stuff going to restaurants or whatever.
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There were a number of occasions when it was clear
that we were being recorded when we didn't know about it.
For example, at one point I was talking privately to
Brian Irish and uh, somewhere out like a hull lobby somewhere,
and there was nobody else around, and he said something
to me like, I wonder if you're gonna have bloody
Mary mix on the on the plane, and I said,
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I don't know, and then like I know, five minutes later,
somebody from the crew was coming through and giving us
notes on stuff, and then they turned to Brian and
go and they said, oh yeah, and there's gonna be
a bloody Mary mix on the plane. And Brian and
I look at each other, like, how the heck did
they know? We just had that conversation, right, so listen,
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I won't go down that wormhole. One of the first
things that we did, however, the rabbit hole, I you
could say, but I like to call it a wormhole. Uh.
We went to the Roswell Army air Field Hospital property
and we did our investigation there, and sure enough, we
had a medical doctor and nurses. This is near to
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the real deal that worked there at that time, and
they sat right down there. I mean, these were active
employees in two thousand five and they told us they
were seeing the ghosts of these aliens that had apparently
been taken there after the Roswell crash. There were animations
that were made, you know, c g I kind of
stuff for the TV show. I did investigation there all night,
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got all kinds of bizarre readings. UM. So we were
off to a pretty good start, and then the day came,
I think it was like day number three when we
were actually going to go out to the site where
the Roswell crash had had occurred. And once you have
to understand is there are a lot of people trying
to make a nickel bye telling you like, oh, oh yeah,
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this is the site where the crash was, and it's
like a tourist trap thing. But no, we we actually
did real research and we got to the bottom of
the place where there was a debris field. Because when
this thing crashed, it didn't just crash at one spot.
Its skidded over miles and there were various deposits of crash.
So we went to the center of that. We had
these UM SUVs that had Discovery Channel emblazoned on the sides,
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and so we all piled into these SUVs and we're
heading out to drive to the crash site. And finally
all of this weirdness of all these people like around
town that are always kind of like spying on us
kind of came to a head because as soon as
we pulled out of the hotel heading to the crash site,
blue lights everywhere, and they pulled our entire caravan over
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and the Roswell police detained our entire group there without
any explanation for a good thirty minutes. I never was
given an explanation for why they held us back. But
when we were finally allowed to go, we drove out
into the desert and we hyped for a long way,
and then you know, we were on federal property. Of course,
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there was like a white suv in the distance watching
us through a telescope very similar to what you've seen
it at Area fifty one. We didn't really find anything
too amazing out there, to be honest, in the desert,
I mean, you can imagine that's been pretty picked pretty clean.
But we were doing a good job, you know, Like
we had been able to investigate the Roswell Museum there
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all night and use thermal cameras, and we got some
weird stuff and like everybody was doing a good job
and getting weird stuff. Well, here is what here's what
makes this story really special. Okay, as we were getting
towards the end of our shooting days because we were
there for about a week, I guess on this extremely windy,
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cold night, we went to Hangar eighty four, which is
just a gigantic, drafty, noise, easy, creepy hanger that is
just out there in the desert, and and that is
where the bodies were supposedly first brought to before they
then went to the hospital for their preliminary exam. And
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so Jim Castle thought it would be cool to do
a seance in Hangar eighty four to see if we
could somehow commune with the spirits of the aliens. Fine,
sounds like a good idea to me too. So he
set up this big, round wooden table and it had
candles all over it, and the whole cast set around
in a circle, and of course the psychics were gonna
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lead all this, and I was just there with all
of my gadgets and gizmos, and I was just going
to sort of roam around the table to some extent,
taking measurements of the energy environment in the room while
this was happening. So it was all dark and spooky,
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and you know, like you say, you hear like these
ed old panels banging when the wind blows, and it
was just a very creepy experience. So the lights were
pretty much turned down except for all these candles, and
the seance seemed to be going pretty well. And I
started picking up this slowly elevating electromagnetic field and it
was getting just like really really spooky, and everybody started
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getting the goose bumps. And they had about five dudes,
big tough guys, surrounding this table um videotaping it from
different angles. And you may not realize that being a cameraman,
a professional cameraman, is a very very tough job. Camera
equipment is really heavy and clunky, and those guys worked
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their butts off, and they had these really expensive cameras
at that time. Each one of their cameras were twenty
dollar cameras. They were high def cameras. And there was
this one guy and his name was Bob, and he
was one of the chief camera guys. And as we
were filming, Bob, who had just been you know, just
like the bulldog cameraman throughout this whole experience, just super tough, strong,
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durable dude. You know. Bob, he starts sort of like
it took us a second to notice it, but he
started kind of wavering a little bit, and then all
of a sudden, in the right in the middle of
this shoot, Bob just passes out, man, and he just
hits the floor, and that this twenty five dollar camera
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goes bang and there is a gasp in the room,
of course, and so immediately, you know, we cut and
everybody goes rushing over to Bob. Are you okay? And
Bob looks like he's kind of out of it. They're
about to call on one and then Bob goes, no,
I think I think maybe I locked my knees or something.
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Let me just go get some fresh air. So we
took him outside. He got some fresh air, and after
like ten minutes he said, Okay, I think I'm fine.
I don't know what happened, but I'm need to go again. Okay.
So we went back in to continue, and so Jim
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Castle starts resetting everything and he had a monitor of
there so that he could sort of look back and
figure out where we were and sort of where we
needed to pick this up from and how we needed
to pick this up right. And so Jim rolls back
the monitor and I heard him say, what the blank? Okay,
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I can't say that word here, but you know the word,
what the And I go over and I said, what
is I was the first one standing right there, and
I said, what is it? Jim? He goes rewind that.
He wound it back once again. He goes, what the
And now I'm going, what the I don't know what
I'm seeing either, all of a sudden, like everybody is
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crowded around us. What is it? What is it? What
is it? He is rewinding the footage back to the
point just before Bob passed out and hit the floor,
and playing it over and over and over. And what
we see is one of the strangest things that I've
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ever seen in my life. Okay, I don't I still
cannot tell you with certainty what category this goes into.
I don't know if you would call this ghostly or
or alien, or antwdimensional or or or something else. All right,
I'm not sure. When we come back from this break, though,
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I'm going to tell you what we saw on this
computer monitor. You know, it was it was. Actually, it's
just that you know, it's a video monitor, is what
it was. I'm gonna tell you what we saw in
this video monitor that we captured just before Bob hit
the ground, and then what happened next. I'm Joshua Pee
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And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
Here we are staring at this monitor in awe and silence.
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Really once we started zoning in focusing on this. Here
you see our table, all of us sitting around it
conducting the seance. The candles are burning, and then all
of a sudden, something appears over our heads that I
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can only describe to you as a huge glowing spectral
serpent or serpent like form. The slithers through the air
over our heads, straight over toward guess who Bob and
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then pal Bob hits the floor. Now, we did not
see the big glowing spectral snake or serpent or whatever
this thing was with our naked eyes. For one thing,
we weren't even looking up. We were all just sort
of focused on really each other and what was happening
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at the table. So it's not a surprise that we
wouldn't have seen it. But this is something that only
showed up on camera. And when I tell you, a
big glowing serpent like thing appeared and slithered over our head.
But I don't know how else to describe, Like, I
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don't know if this is a ghost or an alien
or spiritual being. I mean, I'm gonna I will get
back to more of a recap of what I think
this may be telling us in a minute, okay, But
the effect of seeing this alone was absolutely shocking. But
the fact that it was it went over towards Bob
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and did something to Bob. That is the context. You know.
Here we are in Roswell and Hangarady four where the
alien bodies were brought having a seance. Who's ever done
that before? And capture with the professional crew, this big
thing flying over their head, our head over to the
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cameraman boom knocket into the floor. Like none of us
even knew that was there. How is that possible? When
we when it's sunk in with us what we had,
all of a sudden, our shock and confusion turned into
elation and we started high fiving each other, saying we
don't know what we got here, but this is some
kind of jackpot. This is good TV, man. We have
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reached the climax of the show. You know, we captured
something here that's going to add a whole new chapter
to the lore of Roswell. I mean, that's no small thing.
A place that has been so exhaustively researched, and we've
captured something that's completely bizarre and out of left field,
that's done legitimately captured from numerous camera angles, etcetera, etcetera.
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That is, you know, that makes this kind of an impact.
We were we were just we were celebrating. We felt
we had accomplished enough to make this show a hit.
And in fact, after that and by the way, Bob
was fine, and the long run, we flew back to
Saberdardino to do kind of our wrap up in the
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hangar there at Norton, And this whole time we actually
had with us supervising this big, elaborate, expensive production, two
of the executive producers from the network from Discovery. They
were along the whole time and watching everything, and they
were so excited that they were literally telling me face
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to face and all the other members of the cast,
like you better go ahead and start looking for apartments
in Los Angeles, because you're probably gonna be doing this
show for a long, long, long time. And so basically
when we all parted ways, it was it was actually sad,
but at the same time we were like, we're gonna
be seeing each other get very very soon. And Jim
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Castle said, now I just have to get the rough
cut put together, and then you know, once they see
the final rough cut, we're good to go. I'm sure
they'll love it. How could they not. Everybody is excited
about this, and Jim even said it's okay to go
ahead and start promoting it, go ahead and start talking
it up. So we all went our separate ways, and
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sure enough, we all started talking it up, and and
you have you know, you're talking eight nine people here,
including Jim Mars, going all over the media telling everybody,
get ready, to get ready, get ready. We got something
big and weird and interesting on this new show called
x Ops on the Discovery Channel. And we wait and
we wait and we wait. Crickets, crickets, crickets, crickets, what's happening?
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Week weeks go by, I don't know, maybe six weeks.
One day I got a call from Jim Castle, and
Jim said, Josh, something very strange is going on here.
I said, oh, yeah, what's that? He said, well, it
began with these two producers that I there, the ones
who were with us from Discovery, and I know their names,
and I remember their names, but I'm not gonna say
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their names on this podcast. He said. I started calling them.
We used to talk on almost a daily basis. He says,
I call him and I nobody answers. It just rings
and rings and rings and rings and rings, no voicemail,
no nothing. He said, you know one of them I called.
Finally in a man answered and I said, oh, thank goodness,
this is this is Jim Castle. I'm trying to get
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in touch with blah blah blah, click, hangs up. Jim
calls the network. Uh, this person is out to lunch.
This person out to lunch. Everybody associated with this whole
project is just sort of gone. They've just vanished. And
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finally Jim gets in touch with one of the big wigs,
one of the top people there, and the guy said
to Jim, this is never going to see the light
of day. And Jim goes why, and he says, it's
just it's not going to be released. It's not going
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to be released, and that was the end of it.
Who we got this phenomenal footage and they put this
elaborate thing together and we were told to start promoting it, etcetera.
And now everybody's gone. To this day, fifteen years later,
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I have never heard a peep from those two producers
of Discovery, and nobody knows what happened here. Jim Castle
told me, said, this is amazing, Josh. Because I've been
in TV my whole life, I can says I've worked
on hundreds of shows. I've never ever seen anything like
this before. So here we were promoting this thing all
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this time, and Jim Marris, who was one of the
most outspoken people people ever, he said, well, we gotta
let people know what's going on here. It's gonna make
us look like a bunch of oaths. So Jim gets
on coast to coast a m and he says, screw
this contract and whatever, you know, confidentiality, and he starts
telling everybody what happened. And so after that, all the
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rest of the cast starts talking about what happened, and
suddenly the Discovery Channel is getting overwhelmed, overwhelmed with phone
calls from people saying, we want to see x Ops.
Just put it on once, just to put it on
at two o'clock in the morning, even if it sucks
for some reason, let us decide. And by the way,
it doesn't suck. But I'll get back to that in
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a minute. I actually called the Discovery channel and I
got the operator and I didn't tell the operator who
I was, and I said, yeah, I'm interested in the
x OPS show and when that's going to be released.
And the operator was fortunately a nice lady who was talkative.
She says, we've been getting so many calls from people
wanting us to air that that we have changed our
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phone numbers. It's in the vault. It's in the vault
at Discovery, my friends. To this day, it has never
been aired. And I had of no more information for you.
But you know what, I have the footage. I have
the footage of this thing slithering over our heads. Why
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did they can this, I don't know, but but listen
to this. Just think about this. The headquarters for Discovery
was in Silver Spring, Maryland, a stone's throw from the
n s A, the National Security Agency. We're talking less
than the thirty minute drive and many other secretive government buildings.
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There was a lot of talk about whether or not
we had found something that was a little clue, too
close to the truth, that should not be revealed for
some bizarre reason. What does it all mean aliens, ghosts,
and phantasmical serpents. Well, maybe the answer is simple. Aliens
are more than just creatures from another physical planet. They
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are creatures that are from another dimension altogether. They transcend
normal biology. They are both physical and spiritual. They blur
the line between the physical and non physical, and that
is why there are very very real reports are very
very real aliens, and yet we have such trouble capturing
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them in a test tube or putting them under a microscope,
so to speak. But maybe we can learn more about
the nature of what's happening here if we're allowed to
properly study this footage. Will this ever be released? I
do not know, and at this point, fifteen years later,
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I don't even know who would have the power to
release it. I guess Jim Castle would be a good
place to start, if anybody out there is, if you're
if you're a credible person, I don't I don't want
to just here from any Tom Dick or Harry. But
if you're a credible person, if you're a filmmaker and
you want to look into this and follow up on it,
get in touch with me and I'll see if I
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can get you in touch with Jim Castle. It's an
interesting story on many many levels, and I'm fortunate that
I have the footage. But I wanted to tell you
that story while there, while most of the people who
were involved are still alive, can still verify what I
have told you is true, and while there's still a
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chance that some of this may one day see the
light of day. I've never worked on a project so
big that has just been shut down so quickly after
we got something really strange and significant and wild like
that that would have looked great on TV. And yet
that's what happened with the Notorious x OPS project. Now
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you know the story. When we come back, I want
to read you some interesting emails I've gotten from listeners,
always good stuff. I'm Joshua Pete Warren. You're listening to
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back to the final segment of this edition of Strange
Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and I recently gave you a podcast about the so
called Mandela Effect. I've gotten a lot of interesting emails
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from doing that podcast. Here is one that came from
Chris in Missouri. He said, in listening to your podcast
on the Mandela Effect, I remembered a conversation I had
with a friend about a particular verse in the Bible
Isaiah eleven six. My friend asked me if I remembered
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reading in the Bible that the lion shall lie down
with the lamb. I said that I did remember reading
that in the Bible, but he directed me to the
actual content of the verse, and it says the wolf
shall dwell with the lamb. He goes on to say,
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and the leopards shall lie down with the child, and
the calf, and the young lion and the fatling together,
blah blah blah. So it's no longer a lion in
a lamb, it's a wolf in a lamb. Does that
sound right to you? And you know, he reminded me
of this. That's actually one of my favorite examples and
I just didn't have time to mention them all. But
it's a good one, isn't it. Chris says, I like
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he and his wife was stunned. He said, how does
one explain that. Here's another email I got from the
Mandela Effect show. This comes from Alan in California. He said,
dear Mr Uren, good evening to you and your wife Lauren.
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I am very aware of the Mandela Effect. I too
heard that Mr Mandela had died in prison. I also
heard that Nichelle Nichelle Nichols had died. That's hera of
Star Trek, and then I hear that she is alive
and having some property trouble, you know what. As soon
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as he said that, I thought, huh, because I also
could swear that I recently saw a news report that
Nichelle Nichols had died, because I remember them saying, oh,
this was the first time, you know where there was
an on screen kiss of this sort with her and
Captain Kirk and making a big deal out of that
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being a groundbreaking moment, and I could have sworn that
I also saw what he's talking. But no, she is
alive and well, Alan says, something is most surely going
on here. He also says thanks again for the forces
of Nature one that you sold me. It works so powerfully.
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And your golden ratio tone that's the good Fortune tone,
is working smooth sailing these last two weeks. Please keep
on playing it. Thanks well, okay, I will do that, Alan,
I will play that twenty second good Fortune tone at
the end of this segment. I love all the stories
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I'm getting from people. I've told you some of them already.
You know, some people they put a cup of water
uh in front of it while it's playing, and then
they drink the water and get all this energy or um.
They're They're just so many. Like one guy he said
he put it into a spectrograph machine or program himself,
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was and using the patterns to make a different manifestation
and devices. And so I will definitely play that for
you again here on this particular podcast, listen to this testimonial.
Who comes from see this one comes from Crystal in California.
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She said, I spent a lot of time learning about organite,
found it to be amazing stuff. By the way, if
you don't know what organite is, at some point, I'll
do a podcast about that. It's a very bizarre substance.
She says, I became a bit obsessed and started making
and selling organite on eBay. I thought it would be
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really cool to be able to see the energy from it,
so I made the Aura Advisor and put one of
my strongest organized pyramids in front of a white sheet
of paper. Now what she's talking about here is if
you sign up for my free e newsletter, then you
instantly received some links to some cool free stuff. One
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is a digital good luck charm. The other is information
on how to make the Aura visor yourself, right there
at home for next to nothing, that will help you
train your eyes to see into other realms. So she
used this information. She said, it did not take much
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time before I could see the energy coming from it.
After this period out of this pyramid, she says, after
I relaxed, I found it helps to sort of yawn
and think I can see the energy and then start
to see it. Another thing, I live in a haunted house,
and now I'm not the kind that can see or
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talk to ghosts. I know they're there when they move
stuff or make noise. I do sometimes see them just
out of the corner of my eye, but I'm very
used to it. And I think it's way cool that
when I've been practicing ora viewing a lot each day, well,
one time I saw a whispy, paranormal looking cloud and
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another time a little bit of one of my ghosts.
So cool. I hope I get to a point where
seeing this energy becomes more and more normal and natural
for me. For now, I will keep on practicing. Thank
you so much for the info on this. I'm telling
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you if you have not made those aura vision or
I call it, you know, the Aura advisor. If you've
not made that, you can make it for pennies at
your house and you will really open open your eyes
and your mind. I got this testimonial from a lady
(50:46):
in Tennessee. I I could give her name, but this
is sort of personal, so I think I won't put
her name out there. Uh, she says, Hi, Mr Warren,
I know you don't have a lot of time. I'll
keep this as brief as possible. My twenty five year
old son, for almost the last year, would have nothing
to do with his grandmother, would not answer the phone
if it was her, or even get out of a
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car to walk ten feet to drop off groceries at
her house. When I did her shopping. That's how bad
it was for no good reason. He basically hated her.
She's a wonderful and kind hearted person, so his hate
was unfounded. I heard about your psionic de materializer product
through your podcast, so I bought it along with the
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dog tag with the Pono Pono phrases, which he swore
he would wear. I got the product, set it up,
and he started wearing the dog tag, and although it
was a real struggle for him at first, he started
to say the phrases several times a day. Within two weeks,
his attitude started changing and he was happier and less
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stressed out so much. And one day his grandmother called
and I was busy, so I asked him to get
the phone, and he did. He ended up talking with
her about twenty minutes, much to my amazement. Then she
asked if she could take him out to lunch for
his birthday in a few days, and he agreed. It
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just got better after that, and he actually went to
her house to help her do things that she couldn't
do herself. So thank you for making the dog tags
with the phrases that helped my son overcome anger, bitterness,
and I believe self hate, and I can tell you
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it was beyond bad. At times I couldn't stand to
be around him exclamation point. Just four little sentences have
made a world of difference in our lives. She put
world in capital letters. If they could change my son,
then they could benefit anybody. Feel free to use any
(53:02):
part of this as a testimonial if you wish. Thanks
again for the miraculous dog tag. Thank you so much
to everybody who wrote to me, um, including of course
this lady from Tennessee. And but I I I'm sad
to report that as of recording this right now, I
only have two of the psionic de materializers left, the
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bad buster. I am going to look into making another
batch sometime next year because they have been so popular,
but right now there only two. And if you go
to the Curiosity Shop at Joshua pe Warren dot com
you'll see what I'm talking about. And these things they
do sell out the stuff I put there because they're unique, handmade,
(53:46):
you know, items you can only find there. I also
got a question I want to answer for those of
you who have a de materializer. The question is is
it is it okay to use the word no or
not in the de materializer, like not enough living space,
because this person said, we live in a single wide
and my room is so small I continually hit my
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toes on the bedframe. So is it okay to say
not enough living space? Is this the appropriate way to
word this? And yes it is actually because whatever, if
you have a bad buster, a psionic dematerializer, the concept
is whatever you put in there, you are neutralizing. So
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if you put not enough living space, that's all you need,
that's a statement of your problem. So yes, you put
that in there, and now the device is designed to
help you neutralize the concept of having not enough living space.
So that's exactly how you do it. It's okay to
use words no and not or or any other wording
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you need, as long as you make sure that you're
not saying the opposite of what you want. You're saying,
I put this thing in here that I don't want,
and that is what you're going to neutralize what you
don't want. All right, Okay, it's time for me to
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play for you once again, the good Fortune tone. It's
twenty seconds. Relax, here we go. That's it for this
(55:47):
edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua
pe Warren Plus, visit Joshua pe Warren dot com to
sign up for my free E newsletter to receive a
free instant gift, and check out the cool Stuff and
the Curiosity Shop all at Joshua P. Warren dot com.
I have a fun one lined up for you next time,
(56:08):
I promise, so please tell all your friends to subscribe
to this show and who always remember the Golden rule.
Thank you for listening, thank you for your interest in support,
thank you for staying curious, and I we'll talk to
you again soon. You've been listening to Strange Things on
(56:31):
the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast st a
UM Paranormal Podcast Network. Well, if you like this episode
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