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Get read this Strange Things with j Warren. I am
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weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more.
On this edition of the program, A prisoner wrote me
a letter and here's what he said. You know, let
me start by telling you I am recording this in

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the Halloween season, and this is the time of year
when it's okay to talk about spooky stuff. But you
know what, that's really a silly thing to say, because
the absolute scariest things in society are things that many
of us, as a huge audience, gorge on all year long.

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It's called true crime. Yes, the entire genre of true
crime TV shows, books, podcasts, you name it. It's everywhere
all year long, and it has always been popular since
the very beginning of media. Why is that? Why is

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it that people are not necessarily interested in some cases
and say like a fictional horror movie or a haunted
fun house, but nonetheless glued to true crime stories about
real people doing real things that are really truly horrible.

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That's kind of an ironic part of our lives as
a society. I think it It must have to do
with our fight or flight survival instincts, you know, like
our natural inclination to protect ourselves by avoiding dangerous things,
and the media has always exploited that with scary headlines.

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But it also goes beyond that into a fascination with
people who are capable of committing unspeakable x. You know,
this is a little bit off topic, but I want
to bring this up because I have always had this
kind of weird relationship to true crime. And one example

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that pops into my mind comes from I think it
was two thousand six. For a short period of time,
I teamed up with my friends the late Jim Mars
and Nick Redfern, who is still among us. Some say
he's an alien, but he whatever, he is with us.

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I teamed up with Jim Mars and Nick Redfern and
we went on a speaking engagement tour and uh, this
is something that I put together. It was called Dark thirty,
the Dark thirty Tour, and our first place to speak
was Kansas City, Missouri, and Jim had contact there with

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the theater. So I set the whole thing up, and
it was gonna be like, I forget how many hours,
probably you know, like three hours, with some intermissions were
like I would speak for an hour, Jim will do
an hour, and Nick would do an hour. UM. It
was a really cool thing. The Dark thirty Tour was
actually recorded and somewhere out there, UM, I have got

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those record things. I think I need to talk to
Mobius and see if we can put those online and
make them available for streaming. UM. Anyway, so we all flew.
The three of us flew to Kansas City, Missouri, and
I arranged for us to have this hotel that was

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right next to a bar and restaurant that was open
late within walking distance because I knew that often we
would be coming back late at night, and uh, we
were not renting a car, and so I was like, well,
this is cool because we can just walk over to
this place and you know, eat before we head back

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to our room for the night. So we came in,
oh at least a day early, and I think we
stayed to day late. So when we arrived, the three
of us walked into this bar and actually see Eric
Scott was there because he was the guy who filmed everything.
We walked into this big there's a nice old, like

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very hometown, you know, like neighborhood kind of bar restaurant,
and we walked in and uh, I don't know, I
just looked over, and as one would do, I randomly
picked a table for us to go sit down. So
we go, we sit down at this table and the
server comes over and you know, we hadn't I think

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that was like a late lunch or whatever. And then
later that evening we went back to have dinner, and
uh there was that same table that you know, we
were like, hey, let's just let's sit at that table.
Turns out, for the next few days, like every time
we went into this restaurant, we sat at that table.

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That table was available, um, and it was you know,
very well placed, and we didn't really think much about it.
So on the very last night of our stay, we
had like a v I P thing where some of
the people who came to see us speak could pay
extra and then they could come and actually hang out

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with us at this bar. And so, uh, we walked
into the bar and there's our usual table, you know,
where we've been sitting in the past few days. We
sat down and everybody gathered around us and you know,
having the usual deep philosophical conversations. And at one point

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one of the guys who had lived in Kansas City
his whole life, said, well, it figures that you guys
would be at this table. And I said we, oh, yeah,
why is that And he goes, oh, you don't know, no,
And that is when he told me the story of

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the Kansas City Butcher. The Kansas City Butcher was a
man named Robert Berdella. Last name spelled b E R
d E l l A. And apparently, uh, and I
have not. I should have gone back and like reread

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everything in detail, but uh, I really didn't want to
think about this again. Um. This basically like in the
nineteen eighties, I think, one day, as this guy explains,
this naked, badly damaged man wearing a dog collar is

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running down the street screaming in some you know, nearby neighborhood.
And this is actually similar to what happened in Jeffrey
Dahmer's case. And um, let's see, I believe it was. Okay, yeah,
this is in the eighties, and so uh, this led

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them to this guy's house. And this guy, Robert Burdella, Okay,
he looks kind of like a big fat Mario from
Super Mario Brothers. And if you just go look up
the Wikipedia page, here's what it says. Okay, so this
this guy had he had a dungeon okay, in his

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on his property there, and you know what guys do
in their dungeons, like like real dudgeons, And Wikipedia says
Robert Berdella, Jr. Who lived from nineteen forty nine to
nineteen two, was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped, tortured,
and murdered at least six young men, after having forced

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his victims to endure periods of up to six weeks
of captivity. His crimes took place in Kansas City, Missouri,
between nineteen eighty four and nineteen seven. Now I would
actually I would be willing to go into detail and
tell you some of the stuff that this guy did,
but producer Tom dan Huiser says, this has to be

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a family friendly podcast, so I will. If you want
to know what this guy was doing, two dudes, just
go just look up Robert Berdella and prepare yourself, okay,
B E R D E L L A. And the
reason this is relevant is because this guy, he was

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also a cannibal. See, he and Dahmer had a lot
in common, a lot in common. But I think he
did even more horrible things too, dudes than Dahmer did,
because he would keep them alive for a long long time,
as long as like he was successful keeping them alive
for a long time and horribly torturing these men. Well,

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at that restaurant back in the day, they had kind
of like a a little flea market that they would
do on the weekends where you know, locals would come
together and they could reserve a table and set up
their wares and sell things. A lot of communities still

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do that kind of thing to this day. And so
he you is this uh as a fixture. Okay, he
would earn a lot of money by going to this
flea market and he always always got that spot where
our table was, where he would set up his goodies

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to sell to make some money on the weekends. Now,
the thing is, this story gets even more twisted, and
U when we come back from this break, I'm going
to tell you about some of the goodies that this
guy would sell at that spot, and then also about
another horrible UH brush I had a true crime. And

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then finally I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna read to
you this actual letter that I received a few days
ago from a man who is currently incarcerated. He he
heard me on the radio and it led to him
sending me this And it's really strange, and I'd like
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So yeah, there we were sitting at this table being
informed by this local that that was the table where
this horrible serial killer. And I know all serial killers
are horrible, but some are more horrible than others, because
this is a guy who would keep people in his
house for like weeks and torture them unimaginably before they died.

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And uh, I mean I can't imagine a worse a
worse type of person, a worse individual than than this. Really,
um so this guy, Uh, Robert Berdella. Yeah, I always
want to say Bordello, but it's Robert Burdella. Uh. He

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would set up these sort of like our and crafts
there at this spot, maybe even on that very table.
I doubt it. Surely they he brought his own table,
or they threw his table out or whatever. Hopefully we
weren't eating off of that table. And he was apparently
incorporating human body parts into arts and crafts that he
would sell there. And the thing is, now that I've

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gone back and take a second look, I don't think
he ever admitted to any kind of cannibalism. But once
I started talking to locals there, some of the people
who would participate in that little neighborhood flea market said
that it was common for the regular sellers to all
get together and pretty much have like a pot luck

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lunch where everybody would contribute something to the mill for
the sellers. Um. I know that sounds a little odd
that they would do that in a restaurant, but that's
what I was told, And that Robert Burtella made the
best stu ever. Everybody just loved that Robert Bridella stew

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And so of course the word on the street was
that he was finding all kinds of creative ways of
disposing of bodies and that he probably got a little
private pleasure out of watching other people eat some of
his victims. Again, who knows if that's true or not,

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but regardless, it was definitely a shock that we had
been sitting at this spot this whole time. And then uh,
then a locals like, oh you do know where you are?
You know, tells us the story. Um, we never had
any paranormal experiences there, but I mean, that's kind of
messed up and can but think about it if you

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were one of those people who ate some of that stew.
I mean, wouldn't you feel disgusted as soon as you
realized what this guy was up to? Wouldn't that be terrible?
Um So anyway, but let me before I get into this. Uh.
And I know I'm starting off with some really twisted

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stuff here, but I I have had prisoners contact me before.
I think the worst prisoner that has ever personally contacted
me was Richard Ramirez, known as the night Stalker. Uh
and by the way, Robert Berdella. He died in prison

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of a heart attack at age forty three. Thank goodness,
Thank goodness, because look, if a guy like that escapes,
you don't know what he's gonna do. I mean, uh,
look at Ted Bundy. He escaped from prison and he
went right back to killing people. So um so, yeah,
Richard Ramirez another one of the worst, the twisted, horrible

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stuff he did, the night Stalker Again, I'm not gonna
go over all the things he did, um it says here. Uh.
He was also called the Walking Killer. His crime spree
took place in California between June of nineteen four in
August nineteen five, and Uh. He was convicted of thirteen

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counts of murder, five counts of attempted murder, all kinds
of other assaults and burglary. And you know, basically what
usually somebody who's like that, they get whatever they're convicted
of as a fraction of the stuff they've actually done. Um.
He he was given nineteen death sentences. This guy, he

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was so dark and twisted and evil and just again
the worst of the worst. Practically a demon, a real
demon walking amongst us on earth. And uh, he heard
me on the radio, and yeah, here's here's what happens.
Usually when prisoners generally do not have access to email.

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So what they'll do is they will write a letter
and with her with her own hand, you know, they
get a pin and a pencil or whatever and a
piece of paper and they write a letter, and they
send that letter to a friend, a supporter, a relative,
and then that person will scan it in and email you.

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So it's a slow process if you're going to try
to communicate with a prisoner. And so I got cars
somebody contacted me who was like Richard Ramirez is rep
or whatever, the night Stalker, and said that he would
like for me to interview him. And this is when

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I was doing my show called Speaking of Strange on
the news radio five seventy w w n C, the
Talk of the Mountains, And you know, my immediate reaction was, oh, yeah, yeah,
I think that'd be great radio me quizzing a serial killer.
And my program director thought it was a good idea.

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But then after that, like after the immediate like, oh,
that'd be a good radio then I started thinking, like,
is this ethical? Is this more like? And I started
really digging into who this guy was, and I started
feeling kind of sick about it, and I and and
it really started disturbing me, and I started thinking, I
don't believe that I want to to to do anything

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to like feature the voice of this evil person. But
on the other hand, you know, I had that conflict like, well,
can we can we learn something from this evil person
about how to avoid this kind of I mean, you
go through these really weird emotions. So I had not
made up my mind actually as to whether or not

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I was going to interview him. And then at that point, uh,
the California Corrections who are the prisoner or whatever? Uh
they the warden stepped in and said he would not
allow the interview to take place. So that ended that.
But so that shows you, like another example of how
I've thought about these kinds of things. And before I

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tell you what I was about this letter that this
prisoner just wrote me a few days ago, I want
to make something clear. I do not encourage prisoners to
contact me, Okay, I I really would prefer not to
be contacted by prisoners, And I'll tell you why. Um,
And that is because I am not in a position

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to judge anybody. And I don't know if if you're
in prison, I don't know if you are a good person,
who is you know, like an innocent person who was
wrongfully convicted and is having like this the worst time
of your life, or if you are a bad person
and you deserve to be in prison. I'm not in
a position to judge that. That's some pretty heavy stuff, um,

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And so I prefer to avoid that. You know, you
might take some buddy who's in prison and talk about
what he or she says, and then some victim out
there says, well, why are you, you know, celebrating this
person or something like that, And of course I'm not,
but that's how it may be perceived. So it's a
very complicated territory, and uh, you know, I'm not the governor.

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I'm not I'm not in the position to have to decide,
you know, who gets what I do. However, realize, as
we all should, that if a person does commit a
crime and is guilty, and if we don't kill that
person or put that person in prison forever, well then
if that person does the time and then rejoin society,

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well we want to do everything we can to rehabilitate
that person. You know. That's good for all of us.
That's that should be the goal. It's like, what's the
point and giving somebody, you know, the scarlet letter the
rest of his or her life, which is just gonna
drive them, possibly back into doing some kind of dark act.

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So I mean, we have to be open to rehabilitating
people and giving them another chance. That's the whole purpose
of the justice system. But so again, I don't like
thinking about these things, so I do. If you're a prisoner,
I'm not please, I prefer you not contact me. But
in this particular case, I was contacted and the prisoner

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said something really strange, and I figured I tossed it
out there to you and see what you think. So
that's enough of the build up. I guess. Okay, this
is a man who is in a prison in Texas
and he is serving eighteen years for robbery. And from
what I can tell, um, I think that's it, like

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you know, aggravated robbery kind of thing. And I know
eighteen years is a long time, so I don't know
what he did exactly, supposedly, I don't know if he's
claiming he's innocent or not. Uh, and I think there
are also some weapons charges. So his representative scanned in
his letter and sent it to me, and he gave me,

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of course, all his information in terms of like his
name and uh, you know, where where he is located, etcetera.
I'm not going to give his name out though, because
that um, I mean, let's face it, being in prison
is nothing to be proud of. And I said he
would probably be okay with me giving his name, but

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I'm not sure and I don't have time to check
with him, so I'm not going to do that. But
he heard me on the radio and uh, and he
wrote this message, let's see, how are we doing on time? Okay,
I think I may as well. Yeah, I'm gonna have
to take a break, and when we come back, I'm
going to read to you what he said. He and

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the funny thing is he has an exercise that he
is discovered, a mental exercise, and he wants me and
all of you possibly to do it, to experiment with it. Now,

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what do you think about that? A guy who's in
prison wants to do something to put you in his mindset.
I told you that's why this show is called Strange Things.
I'm Joshua P. Warren. Yeah, Strange Things on the I
Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network.

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I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back to

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Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast.
I am para normal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua
Pee Warren, and this is the show where the unusual
becomes usual. For well over ten years, I have worked

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on television projects with Zach Began's who, of course, is
the host of Ghost Adventures on what was originally on
the Travel Channel and now it's it's on other places.
Um we did. I've been on Ghost Adventures a number
of times. And then let's see, I was on the
Paranormal Challenge, which he produced. I was on every episode

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of Paranormal Papa Rozzi, which he produced. Um, we've worked
on other projects. And Zach has this museum here in
Las Vegas called the Haunted Museum, And when it comes
to the topic of serial killers and people who have
done horrible things, uh, the Haunted Museum is I think

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unmatched and how it uh presents the most terrible aspects
of humankind. Uh. And let me tell you, I've been
to a lot of morbid places, Like I've been to
the Museum of Death in Los Angeles, and I've been
to the Motor Museum, uh Moon or Museum whatever in Philadelphia,

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the UM National Pathology Museum. I mean, I've seen some,
you know, pretty gruesome collections. But but Zack's place, it's
not a fun house by any means. I mean, when
you go in there, he is featuring, um, the worst
of the worst serial killers and things that that they've done,

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and ghosts that are attached to the things that they've done.
And I actually the last time I went there, I
literally had nightmares that night. I've been there numerous times
because you know, a lot of people come into Vegas
and if they want to visit, they say, what is
there to do? And of course they're like, oh, I
want to go to the Haunted Museum. And and let

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me just tell you, if you can handle it, then
you should go see it, because it is astounding what
he has put together. I could. I mean I got
to go in there, and he personally gave me a
behind the scenes tour, just one on one of everything
before the museum even opened. Uh. And and it's only

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gotten bigger and more elaborate since then. And let me
just tell you, I can't believe all the effort and
money and time that Zach Bagan's put into creating this
Haunted Museum. It's there's there's nothing else like it in
the world. But it is really truly disturbing if you
can't handle going in and seeing the worst of humankind.

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And uh, you know, that's one of the reasons that
I am am hesitant when it comes to digging into
people who do dark things. That's because I I don't
want to dwell on that and haven't sort of those
thoughts kind of like effect or infect my thinking, you

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know in some way. But this guy who wrote me
this letter, he's not one of those types. He was
convicted on robbery. And let me tell you, robbery, that
is a terrible thing. Uh. You know, when I was
a kid, I got home one day from school and
somebody had broken into our house and stole a bunch
of stuff, including some things that were very valuable to me,

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some things that I personally treasure. They stole a camera
that had photographs in it. Um, they stole my go kart.
My dad had bequeathed me some things and they stole
those things. And let me tell you, robbery is nothing, uh,
nothing to shake off. I mean, that's a bad thing.
That's a horrible thing to rob something from somebody. So

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this man was convicted of robbery, and again he's in Texas.
He's serving eighteen years. I don't know how much of
that he's served, but anyway, let me get it right.
Into his letter, he says, I was wondering if you
could validate or debunk an experience I have had with

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delving behind the scenes of reality. I can only explain
it as a comparison to exploring the inner workings of
a video game while it is paused. If possible, please

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snell melmy. And he gave me his address and everything. Uh.
He says, I'm confident you will have questions after you
try this exercise and see what I'm talking about. And
I'm reading this as a handwritten letter, so if if
I stumble a little bit just because maybe the writing
is uh, you know, it's it's actually pretty good writing,

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but it might be a little bit sloppy here and there.
So here we go. He says. The exercise is more
effective when you try it immediately after you wake or
before you go to bed. It's a lot easier when
you wake around three thirty a m. And try it out.

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Here are these steps. Number one, as soon as you awaken,
lay on your side and close your eyes. Number two, relax,
clear your mind of worrying thoughts and tasks. Number three,

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Stare at your closed eyelids without darting your eyes around
or moving your lids. Number four, focus on the far
distant image fuzz or smudge that you see. It may

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dance around or play around like Mickey mouse. Number five,
as it moves and shifts, do not, and he puts
in capital letters, do not follow it with your eyes,
keep them looking forward. Number six. When you start seeing

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a moving image, walking, running, climbing, etcetera. Just keep looking
forward number seven. Out of the blue, your eyelids will
beam into a projector where you vividly see you are

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someplace else. You can even consciously move your foot to
ensure you're still awake. Sometimes the projector will drift in
and out, but once everything is completely clear, you are
free to walk and explore. This is not lucid dreaming,

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but you can imagine any weapon, food, or scenario. Go
around a corner or looking a bin, and it will
be there, and you can terminate the experience at will.

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What place you land in difference, But normally a teddy
bear will pop up from me when I grab it.
For this, uh, when I grab for it. This enables
me to walk and explore. I must warn you that

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sometimes the initial projection will scare you so bad you
will open your eyes and tap out, But practice the steps.
Sometimes it takes me up to thirty minutes to set
the projection. Sometimes I struggle between the playing mouth stinky stages.

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Just sometimes I go right in. The strange part is
that other people are there exploring like you. Some will
conjure weapons to attack you, and you can do the same.
But I imagine they two are real people that found
themselves there. You will know it's not a lucid dream

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because you still have to focus on not opening your eyes,
and your trip there was intentional. I recommend you ask
particular people to try the exercise, like those who claim
things mysteriously catch on fire. That shouldn't okay, he says,

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But don't tell them what they will or should experience.
Let them tell you so as to preserve the integrity
of the exercise. I learned the exercise by complete accident,
but it did not surprise me since I've experienced all
sorts of paranormal activity like closing shadow portals. If you

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have any questions, please contact me, and I have his
infot Wow. Umm, now look, I got this days ago
and I have not I'm I'm super duper busy right now.
It's October. It's like the busiest month of my year,

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and I can't wake up and just lay in bed
for thirty minutes and try this experiment. Um, my mind
braces and darts a lot anyway. I mean, he's in prison,
so I mean it's it's probably easier to do when
when you're in prison and you have nothing else to do.
But uh, in the future, I'm sure he'll at some point.

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I'm sure somebody will make sure that he hears that
I read his letter on this podcast and he wants
me to then reveal more about who he is and
all that. I will do that, but um, you know,
he asked me to have others experiment with this, uh,
And what I've done is past this message along to

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all of you. So now it's gonna be very interesting
for me to sit back and get your reactions for
those of you who try this out, and let me
know if he's onto something or you know, or if
this is just like some crazy message from a guy
who's losing his mind behind bars. What do you think?

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Let me know when we come back from this break.
Some of the people who are in prison who contact
me say, you're a manifestation expert. How do I manifest
getting out of prison? And when we come back from
the break, I'm gonna tell you, um some of my

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thoughts on that. Actually, I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening
to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast
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Of Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua
pe O Warren, and let me remind you that if
you drive about half hour thirty minutes from the Vegas Strip,
you will find the quaint town of Boulder City, Nevada,

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which was created in the nineteen thirties to house the
work is for the Hoover Dam, and I have the
Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO tour there. It's a
one hour tour, easy stroll for all ages, and just
to give you an idea of some of the spooky

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things about that town and why it's haunted. You know,
a very few people realize that the the first man
to die on that project building the Hoover Dam was
a man named J. G. Tierney. He was a surveyor
and he slipped from a barge and drowned the morning

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of December twenty, nineteen, two first man to die on
the project. The last man to die on the project
was his son, Patrick Tierney. He died on the exact
same day, December twenty of nineteen thirty five, when he

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felt his death from an intake tower isn't Doesn't that
give you goose bumps? The first man dies and then
thirteen years later his son becomes the last man to
die on the day. There were about a hundred men
who died total on that project, and that just helps
set the stage. So anyway, look, if you're in town,

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go do it. Haunted Boulder City dot com. Haunted Boulder
City dot com. We run year round as long as
we have reservations. You know, there are some nights that
are like the weather is a little off or whatever,
but we more or less run year round Haunted Boulder
City dot com. So, like I told you, some prisoners

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they contact me and they ask about, you know, how
to manifest getting out of jail and that kind of thing.
You know. Um, it goes back to how do you
manifest anything? And here's one thing I think it's important.
I was talking to my wife Lauren the other day
about the story of the Gordian Not, which is an

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ancient Greek legend, and the legend says that, um, there
was this city, let's see what was called Figerian or
something like that. I don't know, I don't I don't
know how they pronounced these Greek things. But anyway, this
city didn't have a king, and an oracle there decreed

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that the next man to enter the city driving an
ox cart should should become their king. Well, sure enough,
this peasant farmer came into town with an ox cart,
and his name was Gordeous, and they immediately declared him king.
That's how desperate they got, and he was apparently a

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really good king. And so for gratitude, uh, he took
that ox cart and he connected it to a big
post in the town with this extremely complicated, elaborate knot,
and he said, um, that you know this, This is

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so tightly entangled. It's impossible, uh to see how this
knot has put together. And so this other oracle said
that any man who could unravel that knot was destined
to become the ruler of all Asia. And it was
that way for many many years until Alexander the Great
came through. And he when he got to that town,

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he struggled to untie this knot, and he couldn't do it,
and so finally he said, well, it doesn't matter how
it's loosed. So he drew his sword and sliced it
in half with a single stroke, and sure enough he
went on to conquer all of Asia and that day

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and age, fulfilling the prophecy. The point to that story
is that when you want to manifest something, you can't
just wish for it. You also have to take action.
Um here's a portion of my book Use the Force,
a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction. Perhaps the

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single most underestimated aspect of the law of attraction is
the simple ability to receive the things you are manifesting.
This certainly seems weird and counterintuitive. After all, what's so
hard about sitting back and reaping the benefits of your
mind power. The problem is that receiving is not simply
a passive process. It also takes some effort and great

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awareness on your part. The things you manifest can only
appear by way of the natural laws in the real world.
That means, if you wish for a pot of gold,
it's not going to simply magically materialize out of thin
air and fall at your feet. If only lepre cons
were real, you cannot just lazily sit back, relying on

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your personal gravity alone to attract the grand things you desire. Instead,
you most actively participate in the world, expecting to see
positive things start to freely appear in your life. Thomas
Jefferson is said to have stated, quote, I am a
great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work,

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the more I have of it end quote, And as
the wildly successful Jack Canfield, creator of Chicken Soup for
the Soul, often says the last word and attraction is action. Generally,
when you want to materialize something significant and develop the

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right attitude, you will quickly see signs that your mindset
is paying off. Little things will pop up each day.
You might find the item you w at the grocery
store happens to be on sale that day, or someone
may invite you to go ahead of them in line.
Maybe a stranger will give you a nice compliment, or

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you'll make it back to your house just before it
starts to rain. If you're wishing for financial opportunities, you
may literally begin to see money and other valuables lying around.
And whenever you see these things, pick them up and
take them except what's being given, and feel grateful for
these gestures of generosity made by the universe. Remember the adage,

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find a penny, pick it up, and all day long
you'll have good luck. That's a passage from my book
Used the Force, A Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction.
If you go to Joshua P. Warren dot com, you'll
see uh currently on the top right hand corner a
picture of that book, and if you click on it
then you can you can download it. You can buy

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a physical copy, or you can listen to me read
the whole darn thing as an audio book through Audible
and I don't know it takes hours and hours, but
I've recorded it in Puerto Rico and a lot of
people love it. Look at the reviews. Um whatever you're
trying to manifest, place your intention and then take some action.

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It's like, for example, here, I live in Las Vegas
and I'm now, especially now that i'm middle age, I'm
always trying to lose weight. I think we all can
relate to that. But it's super hard when you live
in Las Vegas. I mean, in this day and age,
you can you know it as you can get your
phone and go click, click, and have it delivered. And

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this is a twenty four hour a daytown. I can
get almost anything I want delivered here twenty four hours
a day. You're sitting there at three in the morning
and you go, you know what, maybe a pizza would
be good. Right now? There a Philly cheese steakers. I
mean I I I live within my house is within
walking distance of a bar and restaurant that's open twenty

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four hours a day, serving drinks twenty four hours a day,
gambling twenty four hours a day, and some of the
best pizza in Las Vegas twenty four hours a day.
I'm probably screwed here. And so yes, I you know,
I set one of my boxes like I'm gonna lose weight,
gonna lose weight. But I don't just set it and

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be like, now this is magically gonna happen. That subconsciously
helps me to start thinking more about making good decisions. Uh,
one decision at a time. And you know, like I
have a little board. I was like, I'm gonna buy
a little up dry erase board and start counting my calories.

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And that's how you start just like little things like that.
Every time you put something in your mouth, you go, Okay,
how many calories? And I know that sucks, but you
have to start participating in the process if you expect
any results. I don't know if I'm gonna man, I
fest what I want, but maybe I'll do a better
job than I would have otherwise. I think you get

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the point. That's how you go about manifesting anything, so
you dwell on that and put that into context. Um boy,
there is so much more I wanted to talk to
you about, but we are out of time. So here
is what we can all do together. We can all
just stop thinking for a moment and we can relax.

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If you can close your eyes, take a deep breath,
and listen to this tone, the good Fortune tone. It
has done so much for people. I get emails all
the time saying just listening to this tone is improving
my life. And if you have some beverage around, you
might even want to put it in front of the
speaker and play the tone with that beverage next to it,

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and then later drink the beverage. A lot of people
say they've had success with that. So here we go,
kick back, relax, and enjoy the one and only, are
original Good Fortune Tom. That's it for this edition of

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