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You get ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua
BE Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be
bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and
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weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more.
On this edition of the show, I'm going to play
for you some amazing paranormal audio. And even if you've
heard some of this before, you have not heard it
presented this way. I think you will find this intriguing,
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to say the least, you know. In nineteen twenty, the
great inventor Thomas Edison was asked in an interview with
Scientific American to comment on the possibility of using his
inventions to communicate with spirits, and he replied that if
the spirits were only capable of subtle influences. A sensitive
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recording device would provide a better chance of spirit communication
than the table tipping and the luigia boards that mediums
employed at the time, And he even said in a
later article that he was trying to build such a device.
But they say to this day there is no evidence
that Edison ever succeeded. On the other hand, the rumor
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has always been around that he did, and somewhere out
there is this holy grail of spirit communication machines. Who knows.
I even wrote a screenplay for a movie about that
concept one time, many years ago. But people of such
esteem as Thomas Edison talking about this obviously inspired lots
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of other researchers over the years as technology progressed, trying
to figure out ways of breaching that gap. In fact,
in nineteen fifty nine, a Swedish painter and film producer
named Friedrich Jurgensen was recording bird songs near his house,
and upon playing the tape later, he heard what he
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interpreted to be his dead father's voice and in the
spirit of his east wife calling his name. And he
went on to make several more recordings, including one that
he said contained a message from his late mother. Well
that caught the attention of a researcher named Constantine Radiev,
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a Latvian psychologist. He was teaching at the university in
Sweden they're called Upsala, and he was so intrigued with this.
He met up with Jurgenson and together they made over
one hundred thousand recordings which Constant Constantine Constantine Roddiev described
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as being communications with discarnate people. He even wrote a
book about this called Breakthrough, An Amazing Experiment in Electronic
Communication with the Dead, that came out in nineteen sixty eight.
And it was Constantine Radieve who really popularized this term
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electronic voice phenomenon e v P, which I'll get back
to in a minute. But you know, people continued taking
work like what he was putting out there and trying
to advance it and use it with more and more
sophisticated machinery, and ultimately you had people like um, for example,
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George Meek of Franklin, North Carolina, who died, who was
one of the pioneers of technology that was later adapted
into things like Frank's Box and Spirit Calm, and so
they're all these spinoffs. But look, let's keep this simple.
The basic idea here is that some paranormal force or
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entity can interact with or make an impression upon your
recording equipment. Right, that's the idea. And so you kind
of limit yourself a little bit when you just talk
about electronic voice phenomenon e v P. And by the way,
that's a tricky thing for people to discuss with in
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a grammatically correct way, because e VP could be electronic
voice phenomenon which is singular, or phenomena which is plural.
But if you look up the definition of electronic voice
phenomenon on Wikipedia, it says within ghosts, hunting and parapsychology,
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electronic voice phenomena e v P are sounds found on
electronic recordings that are interpreted as spirit voices that have
either been unintentionally recorded or intentionally requested and recorded, and
it sites constantine Rodeve saying he popularized it in the
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nineteen seventies and described e v P as typically brief,
usually the length of a word or short phrase. Goes
on to say enthusiasts consider e VP to be a
form of paranormal phenomenon, often found in recordings with static
or other background. Noise. Many scientists regard e v P
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as a form of auditory paradoia, which is interpreting random
sounds as voices in one's own language, and a pseudoscience
promulgated by popular culture. Uh. Okay, so they you know,
they give you both sides of this, uh, this way
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of looking at things if you actually go and you
read some more about what Constantine Radive said. He said
that as far as methods are concerned, he developed several
different approaches. One was microphone voices. Uh. One simply leaves
the tape recorder running with no one talking, and he
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indicated that one can even disconnect the microphone hm uh. Next,
radio voices one records the white noise from a radio
that is not tuned to any station. Last, diode voices
one records from what is essentially a crystal set, not
tuned to a station. And then when it comes to
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the e v characteristics that he pointed out, he said,
number one, the voices of the entities speak very rapidly
in a mixture of languages, and sometimes as many as
five or six and one sentence. Number two, they speak
in a definite rhythm which seems forced on them. Three,
the rhythmic mode imposes a shortened telegram style phrase or
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sentence and four. Probably because of this, grammatical rules are
frequently abandoned, and Neil neologisms abound. Neologism that's the word,
isn't it. So anyway, I think you get the idea
of what he's saying. Now, Look, I have made it
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known for many years that I am not a big
e v P enthusiast, and trust me, in this show,
we're going to go beyond e v P. But it's
a good place to start. As we know, a circle
can be measured beginning anywhere, and so I've always told
people that I don't think that e v P is
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it makes the strongest case for contact with the other side,
because I think that when people conduct these types of recordings,
they often have great intentions, but they overlook a lot
of things, and they make a lot of mistakes, and
they're way too optimistic about the results they're getting that uh.
In fact, I even got into a squabble on air
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on live radio with Art Bell about this because Art
Bell found more value in e v P than I do,
and that surprises people. I always tell people, like, there's
probably no point in you sending an e VP recording
to me because is there's not much I can do
with it, uh, And I only pay attention to these
types of recordings that basically I captured or that I
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I you know, I was present when it was captured,
so I know what all the conditions were. That is
to say that there are a lot of good intentioned
researchers who may not realize that that microphone is picking
up a lot more than the human ear can hear.
Even if you don't have a microphone, there are signals
that can be picked up coming from radio transmissions and
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maybe magnetic sources, all kinds of things, lightning bolts that
could create a noise there When you say, I'm telling
you there was no no noise in the room, it
was quiet. Or maybe somebody sets a recorder down and
they leave the room and they go off to do
something like, you know, use the bathroom, and they don't
realize in the meantime that something else has happened a mouse,
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a mouse scampered through the room, or or an airplane
flew over, or you have somebody who may have come
by outside and you hear are murmuring, or the wind blows, uh.
And many many e d P are just created by
people's stomach growling, And so it's very difficult to just
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listen to a recording and place into context exactly what
was happening and it's meaning and significance when you weren't
there and you don't know about all the variables. So
in this show, first, when we come back from our break,
I'm going to tell you, and this is maybe a
little bit technical, all right, I'm gonna give you a
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little bit of a technical explanation for how I think
that many of these legitimate e VP may indeed be captured.
That you know, this is based upon something I've done
in the lab and something that I have frequently demonstrated
in front of live crowds of people. Um, and that
will give you some insight into how to put a
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handle on how this could even work. You know, if
we assume it's true paranormal entities can speak and somehow,
you know, the recorder gets it and you don't hear anything.
I mean, I'm open to that possibility. So I'm gonna
tell you how that may technically function, and then use
that as a foundation for me to give you some
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stories about things I have personally captured things where you
know again, I was there, I know what the setup was,
and I have no question about how the audio was captured.
And I have some new enhancements for you as well
that I've never played. So uh, some of this may
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make great on your ears a little bit. You know,
this stuff goes this e v P oriented stuff, but
we're gonna go far beyond e v P. That's why
I'm not calling this e v P. This is not
about the electronic voice phenomenon alone. This is about amazing
paranormal audio recordings. You'll see what I mean by the
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Pete Warren, the Wizard of Weird. And imagine this something
I have demonstrated again and again for people crowds over
the years. You have two components. You have a small
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audio recorder, could be digital, could use it, tape doesn't matter.
And the audio recorder has a standard microphone plugged into it.
All right, that's your recorder. Now next to it, have
a boom box, you know, a stereo that's playing music.
It has a headphone output jack. But instead of plugging
a headphone into the jack, you plug in a large
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coil of wire. Now, this could be hundreds of feet
or a thousand feet, depending on the size of the wire.
So we have our recorder with the microphone, the boom
box with a coil of wire plugged into the headphone
output jack. And so now when you play music through
the boom box, you cannot hear any music with your
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naked ears. And that's because no air is being resonated
to create the vibrations that humans traditionally need to hear
noise instead. However, that signal coming out of the boom
box is being broadcast. It's being sent through the room.
And if you take that microphone from that recorder and
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you hold it up to that coil a few inches
away and you record for ten seconds, you're not gonna
hear any thing at all with your naked ears. It's
a silent room. But then when you rewind it and
play it, you can hear that music clear as a bell.
This is an example of how it is possible for
someone to be in a situation where they don't hear
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anything with their naked ears, but they record something, and
when they play the recording back, they get some type
of a strange, paranormal sounding audio, uh recording or signal.
And this may or may not apply to these various
examples that I'm gonna give you here, but it's just
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at least one practical thing to keep in mind when
you try to figure out, you know, the logic of
how that some paranormal force or entity might be able
to interact with or make an impression upon your recording
equipment if this thing is just some kind of an
electro magnetic energy. So that said, um, even though I'm
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I'm so quick to to discount so many types of
mistakes people make recording e v P, you know, around
the late nineteen nineties early two thousand's my team and
I the Lemur team. We're doing a lot of investigations
in western North Carolina and this is the area where
I was born and raised. And one of the places
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we got to access was this big mansion, big fancy mansion,
around a hundred years old. And I don't want to
tell you exactly what mansion that this is, but it's
near the Grove Park in Resort and spa really upscale neighborhood.
And this was built by a very powerful man, and
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back in the day it was said that he also
was a very abusive man behind closed doors, abusive to
his wife, abusive to his servants. Um. But we got
this amazing access to this place to do an investigation.
And there is a lot of property around this place.
There were security guards everywhere, and um there was like
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six or seven of us. They're all guys. And the
attic of this place was particularly spooky, biggest attic I've
ever been into my life. All Right, I was able
to completely stand up and I'm six ft two and
walk around this attic with plenty of headroom and so
I assure you, uh, there's there's no doubt that, um,
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this attic was a scene for some kind of dramatic
scenarios that that'd be my, my, my feeling. Well, listen,
what we did was we took about five or six
of our cameras and we set them all up and
kind of a circular fashion in various places around the attic.
And being in North Carolina, most of the guys were smokers,
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so we went outside for about fifteen minutes to take
a smoke break. Looie came back in. We replayed our
footage and we were all amazed because every single one
of our cameras captured the recording that you were about
to hear. Okay, now, this is the only sound that
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was captured in this attic throughout this fifteen minute period,
and we were all guys and there was nobody else around,
and yet you can hear what very much sounds like
the words of a woman screaming in agony, and she
says a man's name and then please stop, please stop.
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What do you think? I'm gonna play the raw recording
for you first, and again, this may be a little
rough on the ears, but this is the raw, untouched recording,
no processing, no enhancement. At seven seconds long, here a go.
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All right. So now that you have heard that recording,
now when this woman is screaming, please stop, what do
you think she says before that? Now? Mind you, this
is a recording that is astounding to me because this
is my own recording with my own team, my own buddies.
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We all give the same thing. I enhanced it. And
for the first time, I'm gonna I'm gonna play this
enhancement for you, and I'm gonna play it twice. Okay,
here's the first time again. This is seven seconds. I've
just taken some of the noise out. Are you ready
listen very closely? Here it goes all right. Now I'm
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gonna play that one more time for you. What do
you think she's saying? Here we go? All right? So now,
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I honestly, I have an opinion on what word that
I think she's saying, but I don't I don't want
to say the word. I don't want to say the
name because I'm trying to keep this property private. I
don't want to violate anybody's rights, all right. And so
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if you, how however, you have an opinion about what
the name is. Feel free to email me contacted Joshua
Pee Warren dot com. Contacted Joshua Pee Warren dot com
and I may or may not respond, but i will
make a note of it because I'm just really interested
in what people are gleaning from that. Now, this to
me is an example of a truly outstanding paranormal audio recording,
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because I don't know whether or not we would have
heard that with our naked ears if we've been standing
there in the attic, because we weren't there. But this
is some kind of a paranormal audio recording that I
guess would qualify as part of e v P of
electronic voice phenomena. But there have been other occasions when
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we've done investigations and we've gotten results where it seems
like that instead of hearing the direct voice, there is
an enormous impact on our equipment which gives us audio feedback.
For example, some of our e M F meters make
this big sort of whining sound and they usually go
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like that kind of thing. Right, So, we were investigating
a castle in Asheville and a very haunted cast. What
we were in the basement, there was a whole group
of us. We had a minister with us, and he
was speaking to the presumed spirit as we were taking measurements.
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And one of the rumors about the place was that
there had been a murder and that the bodies were
buried in the basement. And so the minister says, in
this dark, spooky basement, as we're standing around with our equipment,
the minister says, are you concerned that the bodies have
a proper burial? And when he does that, I want
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you to listen to the sound that our primary electromagnetic
field meter made. Now, this is again, this is a
device that's picking up electromagnetic energy and you are going
to hear it. Just get boom boo boom boom boom,
like pounded with some type of signal that we never
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ever heard before. I mean, this is to this day,
this amazes me because I've been using these types of
meters for almost thirty years. Never have I heard anything
quite like this. This is the recording of the actual
scene and the dialogue leading up to and afterward. This
last one minute and fourteen seconds here we go doesn't
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have something to do with what's very here. You can't
call it again. Something is very pure. Ye. Are you
concerned that the bodies have a proper burial? Yeah? Wow,
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I think you win. Okay, so that's why they're still here,
proper burial and I am freezing over here. I've an
I didn't know that he couldn't. Okay, So we have
a proper burial. Well, start to do what needs to
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be done. So, now that was unmistakable, wasn't it when
that meter went boom boom, boom boom, right when he
asked about whether or not the bodies deserve a proper burial.
This is an example of some kind of audio feedback
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that we're getting that may indicate contact with a paranormal
force or entity. The guess what, when we come back
from this break, we are going to blur those lines
because I went out into a cemetery with my buddy
Dean Worsing, who is an e v P instructor, and
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we went out there just to see if we could
capture some ghostly void in the graveyard. What ended up
happening was so bizarre, was so outside of the realm
of our expectations that we're like, what what happened here?
Was this ghostly? Was this alien? But whatever happened. It
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was very well documented from a practical scientific point of view.
I'll explain everything. This could be a game changer in
my opinion. I'm serious. I think stuff like this could
be a game changer. You'll hear it in a minute.
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on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am
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this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. And
this segment is a bit tricky to explain. I will
do my best, hopefully this will all make sense. Of course,
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my good buddy Dean Worsing has been oh man, a
great friend, a great researcher. I've known him for over
ten years. We've been on a lot of TV programs together,
and he's the only person I know who is a
bona fide e v P instructor at a college in Maryland.
And in two thousand nineteen Dean came here to Las
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Vegas to visit me, and understandably he wanted to go
out and do an e v P type session, so
I picked a big cemetery here in Las Vegas that
has quite a history. And in order to make the
most of this experiment, I said, okay, in addition to
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the numero recorders we're gonna have in this cemetery as
we're trying to talk to spirits and get some response,
I want to do something special. I want to take
two identical audio recorders and have one that's just sitting
outside this was in the afternoon, recording the ambient environment,
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and take the other identical recorder and put it inside
of a vacuum chamber where all the air is removed.
Because in order for a vibration to pass through that
makes you hear a sound, you know, to get to
your ear, uh you, it needs that medium of air.
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So theoretically, when you put a recorder inside of a vacuum,
it should not pick up anything produced by traditional movement
like wind or birds chirping or people talking. None of
that stuff should make it through the vacuum. And if
the east two recorders are identical and they are synchronized,
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and later we overlay them and listen to both of them, well,
the possibilities are if we get something on the recorder
that's outside the vacuum, but not inside the vacuum, then
that would indicate the recorder is picking up something that's
created by vibrations. Again, could be the wind, somebody walking around,
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a car in the distance, etcetera. Because if you only
get it on the one outside but not the one inside,
well it's just a sound that's not penetrating the vacuum. However,
if we get a sound on both of them, the
one inside the vacuum and outside the vacuum, well that
tells us this is some kind of an electro magnetic signal,
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because electromagnetic signals can penetrate the vacuum, so we'll know
this is something that is more than just an air vibration.
It's something we were able to get on the one
outside and the one inside. The weirdest result, however, would
be to get something on the one inside the vacuum
and not outside the vacuum, because then that would indicate
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that some force or entity had specifically targeted the recording
device in the vacuum and was interacting with it in
some way that we don't really understand. So when we
got to the cemetery, um I took one of the
recorders and just to sort of demonstrate the process I'm
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talking about here. If you take a recorder and you
put it in a vacuum, before you pumped the air
out and you're playing music, you can hear the music
coming from the chamber, and then you start pumping the
air out and it gets quieter and quieter and quieter,
and then you can't even hear the music inside anymore.
So this shows you that you've got a good seal.
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So what I did was I took the two identical
recorders and I synchronized them, and I was videotaped by
Dean and Lauren and I guess and and we were
that's his wife, And I want to play for you.
First off me, this is audio from me being on
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camera describing what I'm doing as I'm setting all this up.
So this audio is forty two seconds three two one.
That's our reference point for all these So now I'm
want to stick this into the vacuum. According to the minder,
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the UV is three right now, where I have two
identical audio recorders that are both synchronized. The only difference
between them right now, as they are actively recording, is
that one of them is inside a vacuum chamber, which
I've pumped fifteen times, and so no acoustic vibration should
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be able to affect us in any way. All right,
So now you have a better idea of how I
set all this up. I hope that you do. I
hope that you're keeping up with this. So we did
our whole day of recordings, and then I took the
recordings back to my office and I combined the two together,
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and I'm about to play for you what I got,
because I was astounded when I looked at the two recordings.
The recording that was made from the device outside the
vacuum had all kinds of noise on it, us talking
and you know, everything that was happening. The one inside
the vacuum should just be silent, there should be nothing
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on it. And yet, and yet there was stuff on
the one in the vacuum, and only the one in
the vacuum, big wide bands bursts of static boom boom
boom that were only hitting at very certain spots on
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the one that was in the vacuum, but again not
affecting the one outside the vacuum. So in this next
audio clip I'm gonna play for you, you are going
to hear the combination both the tracks, you will hear
me explaining they're in the cemetery, what this experiment is about.
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And as soon as I start explaining what I'm hoping for,
what kind of interaction that I want, you will hear
from the recording in the vacuum this big burst of
energy that starts hitting. It's almost like as soon as
I explain what I'm looking for, what I'm hoping will happen,
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the phenomenon starts kicking in. I explained it to the
spirits or whatever, and then they go, Okay, now we
know what this guy wants. He wants us to hit
this thing in that vacuum, and you will hear how
immediately responsive it is once I explain what the experiment
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is about. So this clip is thirty five seconds, and
again this is me talking overlaid with what's happening at
the same time in the vacuum. Listen to these hits
that we start getting only on the vacuum sealed recorder. Well,
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if we get something on the one that's in the vacuum,
but we don't get anything on the one that's outside
the vacuum, that would lead me to believe something profound
had occurred that there was some type of an inexplicable
force that had targeted the interior your a specific digital
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recorder and imprinted a message. On the other hand, if
we get something the one that's outside the vacuum but
not enside, then that would show us that this is
a purely acoustical phenomenon. Now that's pretty weird, okay. And
if you actually see these tracks on an audio editor,
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I mean it's amazing, because again there I've done this
many many times. There should not be anything on the
recorder in the vacuum, and yet you can see how
precisely this happens. When I say here's what we want, boom,
boom boom, these big wide bands of interference that you
can see all up and down the entire track hit
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at just those points as if I am getting a response.
After that, Deem started actually speaking out to the spirits
and asking questions. And now it seems that this method
of communication has been established, and so now you will
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continue hearing specific hits that we're getting on the recorder
in the vacuum in response to certain questions that Dean asks.
So this recording is eighteen seconds, and here is what
happened when Dean started asking questions and we listened to
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what was happening in the vacuum at the same time.
Did you work in Las Vegas? What did you do
for a living? Do you have a particular talent you'd
like to melt them out? Now, that to me is
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this is mind bogg link that we seem to be
communicating in some way with some intelligence there that is
only targeting the one in the vacuum, as if it's
able to specifically pinpoint that recording. But here's the kicker.
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Hit the kicker. Are you ready, There's there's a big
kicker to this. We went there in order to talk
with spirits. But during that day as we were making
our recordings and and mind you, at the time, we
didn't know what the vacuum was capturing. There was one
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point in the day when Dean said, Josh, Josh, shosh,
and by the time I ran over there, it was gone.
He saw a UFO shoot over top of us as
we were doing this day of sessions in the cemetery,
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and he described it as being like a reflective silvery
orb that just shot right overhead. So now we say, uh,
what were we capturing? Here? Were we getting feedback from
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from spirits or feedback from UFOs um. Okay, when we
come back from this break, I'll tell you more about
what I think about this result and how and why
this may actually be some kind of a game changer
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I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren. And when you do
an experiment like the one that I did with Dean
in two thousand nineteen and you scratch your head, people say, well, what,
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what's the explanation? What happened there? Joshua, And the truth is,
I don't really know. I have found that. Indeed, if
you stick with the paranormal investigation world long enough, you'll
find that ghosts, UFOs, cryptids, psychic phenomena, interdimensional things, they
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all relate. Like I said, you can measure a circle
beginning anywhere, as Charles Fort said, distinguishing cause and effect. Boy,
that's difficult when you're looking into the invisible realms, the
invisible world. You know, I have a big supporter or
big fan of this show who is an adamant investigator,
(45:33):
and he emailed me the other day and basically said,
I've been playing some of these paranormal tones that you've
had on the show, and I do that when I'm
out looking for UFOs, and recently something news happened. Now
as I've been doing these UFO watches and playing these tones, well,
now I have poulter Geist activity happening at my house.
(45:55):
At the same time, I hear things knocking on the
door and thumping around, an objects, move thing. What's going on?
And I said, well, this is all experimental. The point
is you're stirring up the energy environment when you play
these things. When you do these things and so I
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understand why the people come to me and they say,
what's the explanation? But you see, I talk about things
because their mysteries, because I don't know. I am an
expert on what we don't know. I'm not some guru
who's here to give you the answers to everything. I'm
here to explore and present questions and say, this is weird,
(46:37):
this is strange because we don't know the moment we know.
It's sort of out of my category. It's out of
my area of specialty anymore. You know, I'm always looking
at things that we we don't know. Yes, I can
come up with the ideas and theories, but I believe
that there is some connection between UFOs and ghosts, and
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we captured some element of that when we were doing
our experiment there in the cemetery um, and whatever was
there was intelligent because it was targeting the device in
the vacuum and making it very clear to us that
that was a response, a timely response to the questions
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that were being asked. So, now that I've given you
some more information about sort of my approach to e
v P and paranormal audio, you see the practical approach
that I take. And even though I say like I'm
not the right guy to send e v P two
for analysis, because I have to. I have to make
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sure that you know I'm I give valuable input, and
I you know, if you give me some sound that
you captured, I don't know what the circumstances were in
the context were, but Deed Worsing would sure like to
hear it. So if you have some e v P here,
some strange audio that you would like to get to
Dean Worsening, I'll make this real easy for you. If
you go to Joshua P. Warren dot com Joshua P.
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Warren dot com. There's no period after the P scroll
down to the bottom. You'll find my email address there.
And if you send me an email that's got some
ghostly or paranormal audio at it, just in the subject line,
just put Dean Worsing first name, D E A N
last named W A R S I N G Dean
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Worsing and I'll just forward that onto Dean and if
Dean finds it interesting, then he will get in touch
with you, and you will be in touch with the
best qualified man for the job. Speaking of emails, I
have a really interesting one that I want to read
to you. Before I do that, however, I want to
point out something. A lot of times people, uh, they
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listen to this show, and then later on they go
back and they try to find a particular show. What's
the show where you talked about this or that? And
they can't find it. And the reason is when I
record these shows, I write up what I feel is
a very descriptive title for the show, and then I
send that off to producers and everybody, and uh, by
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the time it gets posted, rarely doesn't have my full
description in there. And so in order to make this
easier for you, I'm going to start posting my descriptions
of each episode at Strange Things show dot com. So like,
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for example, I got an email from a guy who said,
I'd like to hear the one that you did about
alien people who have the alien blood type or alien DNA.
Which one was it? I can't tell. Well, if you
go to Strange Things show dot com, you'll be able
to tell which episode that was in. So that will
help you if you want to go back and research things.
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So mark that down as a programming note that Strange
Things show dot com. When you scroll down, there will
have a list of episodes and my description, which will
make it easier for you to find some of the
things that I talk about. So anyway, here is a
really cool email that I got from a man, and
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I have his whole name and all that stuff, but
this is such a personal thing that I'm sure he'd
be fine with me giving his name out, but um,
I think I'll keep it private. Um. You know, speaking
of strange audio, you know, tonight or today or whenever
you're listening to this, I've been playing all this paranormal
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stuff where you it's kind of creepy and spooky in
some ways erie um, And yet recently I've been playing
this tone that I call the Good Fortune Tone. It's
twenty seconds during the last segment of this show, and
it's a tone taken from the Golden Ratio, the Golden
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Mean and I have just been really uh actually, I
have been surprised by the incredible amount of positive feedback
I've been getting from people all over the world telling
me about like how much their lives have improved and
all these cool things that have happened since they started
listening to this tongue. So listen to this one that
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I got. The man says, I enjoy it when you
bring images to life with noise, but I must admit
that the good luck noise is abrasive to my ears.
But it worked. I started listening to your podcast about
three weeks ago, and for Christmas morning, my wife gave
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me a present with two positive pregnancy tests. After two
years of trying to conceive, we finally did it. And
maybe it was a coincidence, but we happened to get
pregnant around the same time I heard you start playing
the good luck tone food for thought, stay weird. Well,
(52:09):
thank you for that message, sir. And again I could
give your name out, but uh that that's such a
personal thing. I don't think I will. But at the
end of this segment, I'll go ahead and I'll play
it for you again, the twenty second good fortune tone,
since I'm getting such an amazing amount of positive feedback
before I do that, however, Hey, how about a creepy
(52:32):
story that has to do with spirits interacting with things.
This was sent to me by a woman, uh who
is what? She was a police officer. I'm not sure
if she still is. Her name is Joan Rudzinski, Police
officer in two thousand six Anyway in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, she wrote,
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I'm a single mom and one night I worked until
eleven d p m. By the time I got home
and let the puppy out and made my way upstairs,
it was about midnight. I passed by my son's bedroom
and stopped to peek in and blow him a kiss
while he's sleeping. I've done the same thing every night
for seventeen years. I had two home phones in my house,
(53:20):
one in my bedroom and one in the kitchen, though
we also both have cell phones. Well. This particular night,
as I passed my son's room, I heard his cell
phone ring. I listened for a minute, he didn't answer,
and it stopped. I didn't think anything more of it
and went to bed. The next morning, I was having
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coffee when my son came downstairs getting ready to leave
for school, and he asked, Mom, did you call me
last night? I said no, that I did, explain that
I had heard his phone ring. He showed me his phone,
which said that our home phone had called him at midnight.
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That's from a police officer and Philadelphia Joan Radzinski. Seemed
like something from the other side was calling the house,
and I have been sent even some voice smels from
people who believe that a loved one is leaving a
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message from the other side. That stuff can be inspirational
or it can be I don't disturbing, but that's one
of my favorite ghostly stories that's been sent to me
from a listener. I'll read more of those types of
stories to you on upcoming podcasts. So all right, my friends,
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remember when you listen to the good Fortune tone, if
you can do it, if you're not driving or whatever,
just close your eyes, take a few deep breaths, think
about what you're you're hearing, feel it resonate within you,
and let's see if over the next seven days your
world stays positive. Because so far all the feedback I've
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been getting has been nothing but positivity. It's a great experiment.
Let's keep this tulpa going, shall we? All Right, here
you go. That's it for this edition of the show.
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You get ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua
BE Warren, and each week on this show, I'll be
bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and
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weird experiments you can do at home, and a lot more.
On this edition of the show, I'm going to play
for you some amazing paranormal audio. And even if you've
heard some of this before, you have not heard it
presented this way. I think you will find this intriguing,
(01:23):
to say the least, you know. In nineteen twenty, the
great inventor Thomas Edison was asked in an interview with
Scientific American to comment on the possibility of using his
inventions to communicate with spirits, and he replied that if
the spirits were only capable of subtle influences. A sensitive
(01:46):
recording device would provide a better chance of spirit communication
than the table tipping and the luigia boards that mediums
employed at the time, And he even said in a
later article that he was trying to build such a device.
But they say to this day there is no evidence
that Edison ever succeeded. On the other hand, the rumor
(02:10):
has always been around that he did, and somewhere out
there is this holy grail of spirit communication machines. Who knows.
I even wrote a screenplay for a movie about that
concept one time, many years ago. But people of such
esteem as Thomas Edison talking about this obviously inspired lots
(02:31):
of other researchers over the years as technology progressed, trying
to figure out ways of breaching that gap. In fact,
in nineteen fifty nine, a Swedish painter and film producer
named Friedrich Jurgensen was recording bird songs near his house,
and upon playing the tape later, he heard what he
(02:54):
interpreted to be his dead father's voice and in the
spirit of his east wife calling his name. And he
went on to make several more recordings, including one that
he said contained a message from his late mother. Well
that caught the attention of a researcher named Constantine Radiev,
(03:15):
a Latvian psychologist. He was teaching at the university in
Sweden they're called Upsala, and he was so intrigued with this.
He met up with Jurgenson and together they made over
one hundred thousand recordings which Constant Constantine Constantine Roddiev described
(03:36):
as being communications with discarnate people. He even wrote a
book about this called Breakthrough, An Amazing Experiment in Electronic
Communication with the Dead, that came out in nineteen sixty eight.
And it was Constantine Radieve who really popularized this term
(03:59):
electronic voice phenomenon e v P, which I'll get back
to in a minute. But you know, people continued taking
work like what he was putting out there and trying
to advance it and use it with more and more
sophisticated machinery, and ultimately you had people like um, for example,
(04:25):
George Meek of Franklin, North Carolina, who died, who was
one of the pioneers of technology that was later adapted
into things like Frank's Box and Spirit Calm, and so
they're all these spinoffs. But look, let's keep this simple.
The basic idea here is that some paranormal force or
(04:48):
entity can interact with or make an impression upon your
recording equipment. Right, that's the idea. And so you kind
of limit yourself a little bit when you just talk
about electronic voice phenomenon e v P. And by the way,
that's a tricky thing for people to discuss with in
(05:09):
a grammatically correct way, because e VP could be electronic
voice phenomenon which is singular, or phenomena which is plural.
But if you look up the definition of electronic voice
phenomenon on Wikipedia, it says within ghosts, hunting and parapsychology,
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electronic voice phenomena e v P are sounds found on
electronic recordings that are interpreted as spirit voices that have
either been unintentionally recorded or intentionally requested and recorded, and
it sites constantine Rodeve saying he popularized it in the
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nineteen seventies and described e v P as typically brief,
usually the length of a word or short phrase. Goes
on to say enthusiasts consider e VP to be a
form of paranormal phenomenon, often found in recordings with static
or other background. Noise. Many scientists regard e v P
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as a form of auditory paradoia, which is interpreting random
sounds as voices in one's own language, and a pseudoscience
promulgated by popular culture. Uh. Okay, so they you know,
they give you both sides of this, uh, this way
(06:32):
of looking at things if you actually go and you
read some more about what Constantine Radive said. He said
that as far as methods are concerned, he developed several
different approaches. One was microphone voices. Uh. One simply leaves
the tape recorder running with no one talking, and he
(06:54):
indicated that one can even disconnect the microphone hm uh. Next,
radio voices one records the white noise from a radio
that is not tuned to any station. Last, diode voices
one records from what is essentially a crystal set, not
tuned to a station. And then when it comes to
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the e v characteristics that he pointed out, he said,
number one, the voices of the entities speak very rapidly
in a mixture of languages, and sometimes as many as
five or six and one sentence. Number two, they speak
in a definite rhythm which seems forced on them. Three,
the rhythmic mode imposes a shortened telegram style phrase or
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sentence and four. Probably because of this, grammatical rules are
frequently abandoned, and Neil neologisms abound. Neologism that's the word,
isn't it. So anyway, I think you get the idea
of what he's saying. Now, Look, I have made it
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known for many years that I am not a big
e v P enthusiast, and trust me, in this show,
we're going to go beyond e v P. But it's
a good place to start. As we know, a circle
can be measured beginning anywhere, and so I've always told
people that I don't think that e v P is
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it makes the strongest case for contact with the other side,
because I think that when people conduct these types of recordings,
they often have great intentions, but they overlook a lot
of things, and they make a lot of mistakes, and
they're way too optimistic about the results they're getting that uh.
In fact, I even got into a squabble on air
(08:47):
on live radio with Art Bell about this because Art
Bell found more value in e v P than I do,
and that surprises people. I always tell people, like, there's
probably no point in you sending an e VP recording
to me because is there's not much I can do
with it, uh, And I only pay attention to these
types of recordings that basically I captured or that I
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I you know, I was present when it was captured,
so I know what all the conditions were. That is
to say that there are a lot of good intentioned
researchers who may not realize that that microphone is picking
up a lot more than the human ear can hear.
Even if you don't have a microphone, there are signals
that can be picked up coming from radio transmissions and
(09:32):
maybe magnetic sources, all kinds of things, lightning bolts that
could create a noise there When you say, I'm telling
you there was no no noise in the room, it
was quiet. Or maybe somebody sets a recorder down and
they leave the room and they go off to do
something like, you know, use the bathroom, and they don't
realize in the meantime that something else has happened a mouse,
(09:57):
a mouse scampered through the room, or or an airplane
flew over, or you have somebody who may have come
by outside and you hear are murmuring, or the wind blows, uh.
And many many e d P are just created by
people's stomach growling, And so it's very difficult to just
(10:18):
listen to a recording and place into context exactly what
was happening and it's meaning and significance when you weren't
there and you don't know about all the variables. So
in this show, first, when we come back from our break,
I'm going to tell you, and this is maybe a
little bit technical, all right, I'm gonna give you a
(10:38):
little bit of a technical explanation for how I think
that many of these legitimate e VP may indeed be captured.
That you know, this is based upon something I've done
in the lab and something that I have frequently demonstrated
in front of live crowds of people. Um, and that
will give you some insight into how to put a
(10:59):
handle on how this could even work. You know, if
we assume it's true paranormal entities can speak and somehow,
you know, the recorder gets it and you don't hear anything.
I mean, I'm open to that possibility. So I'm gonna
tell you how that may technically function, and then use
that as a foundation for me to give you some
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stories about things I have personally captured things where you
know again, I was there, I know what the setup was,
and I have no question about how the audio was captured.
And I have some new enhancements for you as well
that I've never played. So uh, some of this may
(11:45):
make great on your ears a little bit. You know,
this stuff goes this e v P oriented stuff, but
we're gonna go far beyond e v P. That's why
I'm not calling this e v P. This is not
about the electronic voice phenomenon alone. This is about amazing
paranormal audio recordings. You'll see what I mean by the
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Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,
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Pete Warren, the Wizard of Weird. And imagine this something
I have demonstrated again and again for people crowds over
the years. You have two components. You have a small
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audio recorder, could be digital, could use it, tape doesn't matter.
And the audio recorder has a standard microphone plugged into it.
All right, that's your recorder. Now next to it, have
a boom box, you know, a stereo that's playing music.
It has a headphone output jack. But instead of plugging
a headphone into the jack, you plug in a large
(15:11):
coil of wire. Now, this could be hundreds of feet
or a thousand feet, depending on the size of the wire.
So we have our recorder with the microphone, the boom
box with a coil of wire plugged into the headphone
output jack. And so now when you play music through
the boom box, you cannot hear any music with your
(15:32):
naked ears. And that's because no air is being resonated
to create the vibrations that humans traditionally need to hear
noise instead. However, that signal coming out of the boom
box is being broadcast. It's being sent through the room.
And if you take that microphone from that recorder and
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you hold it up to that coil a few inches
away and you record for ten seconds, you're not gonna
hear any thing at all with your naked ears. It's
a silent room. But then when you rewind it and
play it, you can hear that music clear as a bell.
This is an example of how it is possible for
someone to be in a situation where they don't hear
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anything with their naked ears, but they record something, and
when they play the recording back, they get some type
of a strange, paranormal sounding audio, uh recording or signal.
And this may or may not apply to these various
examples that I'm gonna give you here, but it's just
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at least one practical thing to keep in mind when
you try to figure out, you know, the logic of
how that some paranormal force or entity might be able
to interact with or make an impression upon your recording
equipment if this thing is just some kind of an
electro magnetic energy. So that said, um, even though I'm
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I'm so quick to to discount so many types of
mistakes people make recording e v P, you know, around
the late nineteen nineties early two thousand's my team and
I the Lemur team. We're doing a lot of investigations
in western North Carolina and this is the area where
I was born and raised. And one of the places
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we got to access was this big mansion, big fancy mansion,
around a hundred years old. And I don't want to
tell you exactly what mansion that this is, but it's
near the Grove Park in Resort and spa really upscale neighborhood.
And this was built by a very powerful man, and
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back in the day it was said that he also
was a very abusive man behind closed doors, abusive to
his wife, abusive to his servants. Um. But we got
this amazing access to this place to do an investigation.
And there is a lot of property around this place.
There were security guards everywhere, and um there was like
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six or seven of us. They're all guys. And the
attic of this place was particularly spooky, biggest attic I've
ever been into my life. All Right, I was able
to completely stand up and I'm six ft two and
walk around this attic with plenty of headroom and so
I assure you, uh, there's there's no doubt that, um,
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this attic was a scene for some kind of dramatic
scenarios that that'd be my, my, my feeling. Well, listen,
what we did was we took about five or six
of our cameras and we set them all up and
kind of a circular fashion in various places around the attic.
And being in North Carolina, most of the guys were smokers,
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so we went outside for about fifteen minutes to take
a smoke break. Looie came back in. We replayed our
footage and we were all amazed because every single one
of our cameras captured the recording that you were about
to hear. Okay, now, this is the only sound that
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was captured in this attic throughout this fifteen minute period,
and we were all guys and there was nobody else around,
and yet you can hear what very much sounds like
the words of a woman screaming in agony, and she
says a man's name and then please stop, please stop.
(19:45):
What do you think? I'm gonna play the raw recording
for you first, and again, this may be a little
rough on the ears, but this is the raw, untouched recording,
no processing, no enhancement. At seven seconds long, here a go.
(20:09):
All right. So now that you have heard that recording,
now when this woman is screaming, please stop, what do
you think she says before that? Now? Mind you, this
is a recording that is astounding to me because this
is my own recording with my own team, my own buddies.
(20:29):
We all give the same thing. I enhanced it. And
for the first time, I'm gonna I'm gonna play this
enhancement for you, and I'm gonna play it twice. Okay,
here's the first time again. This is seven seconds. I've
just taken some of the noise out. Are you ready
listen very closely? Here it goes all right. Now I'm
(20:59):
gonna play that one more time for you. What do
you think she's saying? Here we go? All right? So now,
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I honestly, I have an opinion on what word that
I think she's saying, but I don't I don't want
to say the word. I don't want to say the
name because I'm trying to keep this property private. I
don't want to violate anybody's rights, all right. And so
(21:41):
if you, how however, you have an opinion about what
the name is. Feel free to email me contacted Joshua
Pee Warren dot com. Contacted Joshua Pee Warren dot com
and I may or may not respond, but i will
make a note of it because I'm just really interested
in what people are gleaning from that. Now, this to
me is an example of a truly outstanding paranormal audio recording,
(22:05):
because I don't know whether or not we would have
heard that with our naked ears if we've been standing
there in the attic, because we weren't there. But this
is some kind of a paranormal audio recording that I
guess would qualify as part of e v P of
electronic voice phenomena. But there have been other occasions when
(22:28):
we've done investigations and we've gotten results where it seems
like that instead of hearing the direct voice, there is
an enormous impact on our equipment which gives us audio feedback.
For example, some of our e M F meters make
this big sort of whining sound and they usually go
(22:48):
like that kind of thing. Right, So, we were investigating
a castle in Asheville and a very haunted cast. What
we were in the basement, there was a whole group
of us. We had a minister with us, and he
was speaking to the presumed spirit as we were taking measurements.
(23:11):
And one of the rumors about the place was that
there had been a murder and that the bodies were
buried in the basement. And so the minister says, in
this dark, spooky basement, as we're standing around with our equipment,
the minister says, are you concerned that the bodies have
a proper burial? And when he does that, I want
(23:31):
you to listen to the sound that our primary electromagnetic
field meter made. Now, this is again, this is a
device that's picking up electromagnetic energy and you are going
to hear it. Just get boom boo boom boom boom,
like pounded with some type of signal that we never
(23:54):
ever heard before. I mean, this is to this day,
this amazes me because I've been using these types of
meters for almost thirty years. Never have I heard anything
quite like this. This is the recording of the actual
scene and the dialogue leading up to and afterward. This
last one minute and fourteen seconds here we go doesn't
(24:19):
have something to do with what's very here. You can't
call it again. Something is very pure. Ye. Are you
concerned that the bodies have a proper burial? Yeah? Wow,
(24:45):
I think you win. Okay, so that's why they're still here,
proper burial and I am freezing over here. I've an
I didn't know that he couldn't. Okay, So we have
a proper burial. Well, start to do what needs to
(25:05):
be done. So, now that was unmistakable, wasn't it when
that meter went boom boom, boom boom, right when he
asked about whether or not the bodies deserve a proper burial.
This is an example of some kind of audio feedback
(25:31):
that we're getting that may indicate contact with a paranormal
force or entity. The guess what, when we come back
from this break, we are going to blur those lines
because I went out into a cemetery with my buddy
Dean Worsing, who is an e v P instructor, and
(25:56):
we went out there just to see if we could
capture some ghostly void in the graveyard. What ended up
happening was so bizarre, was so outside of the realm
of our expectations that we're like, what what happened here?
Was this ghostly? Was this alien? But whatever happened. It
(26:20):
was very well documented from a practical scientific point of view.
I'll explain everything. This could be a game changer in
my opinion. I'm serious. I think stuff like this could
be a game changer. You'll hear it in a minute.
I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to strange things on
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on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am
Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua Pete Warren, and
this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. And
this segment is a bit tricky to explain. I will
do my best, hopefully this will all make sense. Of course,
(29:16):
my good buddy Dean Worsing has been oh man, a
great friend, a great researcher. I've known him for over
ten years. We've been on a lot of TV programs together,
and he's the only person I know who is a
bona fide e v P instructor at a college in Maryland.
And in two thousand nineteen Dean came here to Las
(29:38):
Vegas to visit me, and understandably he wanted to go
out and do an e v P type session, so
I picked a big cemetery here in Las Vegas that
has quite a history. And in order to make the
most of this experiment, I said, okay, in addition to
(29:58):
the numero recorders we're gonna have in this cemetery as
we're trying to talk to spirits and get some response,
I want to do something special. I want to take
two identical audio recorders and have one that's just sitting
outside this was in the afternoon, recording the ambient environment,
(30:21):
and take the other identical recorder and put it inside
of a vacuum chamber where all the air is removed.
Because in order for a vibration to pass through that
makes you hear a sound, you know, to get to
your ear, uh you, it needs that medium of air.
(30:42):
So theoretically, when you put a recorder inside of a vacuum,
it should not pick up anything produced by traditional movement
like wind or birds chirping or people talking. None of
that stuff should make it through the vacuum. And if
the east two recorders are identical and they are synchronized,
(31:04):
and later we overlay them and listen to both of them, well,
the possibilities are if we get something on the recorder
that's outside the vacuum, but not inside the vacuum, then
that would indicate the recorder is picking up something that's
created by vibrations. Again, could be the wind, somebody walking around,
(31:25):
a car in the distance, etcetera. Because if you only
get it on the one outside but not the one inside,
well it's just a sound that's not penetrating the vacuum. However,
if we get a sound on both of them, the
one inside the vacuum and outside the vacuum, well that
tells us this is some kind of an electro magnetic signal,
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because electromagnetic signals can penetrate the vacuum, so we'll know
this is something that is more than just an air vibration.
It's something we were able to get on the one
outside and the one inside. The weirdest result, however, would
be to get something on the one inside the vacuum
and not outside the vacuum, because then that would indicate
(32:11):
that some force or entity had specifically targeted the recording
device in the vacuum and was interacting with it in
some way that we don't really understand. So when we
got to the cemetery, um I took one of the
recorders and just to sort of demonstrate the process I'm
(32:34):
talking about here. If you take a recorder and you
put it in a vacuum, before you pumped the air
out and you're playing music, you can hear the music
coming from the chamber, and then you start pumping the
air out and it gets quieter and quieter and quieter,
and then you can't even hear the music inside anymore.
So this shows you that you've got a good seal.
(32:57):
So what I did was I took the two identical
recorders and I synchronized them, and I was videotaped by
Dean and Lauren and I guess and and we were
that's his wife, And I want to play for you.
First off me, this is audio from me being on
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camera describing what I'm doing as I'm setting all this up.
So this audio is forty two seconds three two one.
That's our reference point for all these So now I'm
want to stick this into the vacuum. According to the minder,
(33:43):
the UV is three right now, where I have two
identical audio recorders that are both synchronized. The only difference
between them right now, as they are actively recording, is
that one of them is inside a vacuum chamber, which
I've pumped fifteen times, and so no acoustic vibration should
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be able to affect us in any way. All right,
So now you have a better idea of how I
set all this up. I hope that you do. I
hope that you're keeping up with this. So we did
our whole day of recordings, and then I took the
recordings back to my office and I combined the two together,
(34:30):
and I'm about to play for you what I got,
because I was astounded when I looked at the two recordings.
The recording that was made from the device outside the
vacuum had all kinds of noise on it, us talking
and you know, everything that was happening. The one inside
the vacuum should just be silent, there should be nothing
(34:51):
on it. And yet, and yet there was stuff on
the one in the vacuum, and only the one in
the vacuum, big wide bands bursts of static boom boom
boom that were only hitting at very certain spots on
(35:12):
the one that was in the vacuum, but again not
affecting the one outside the vacuum. So in this next
audio clip I'm gonna play for you, you are going
to hear the combination both the tracks, you will hear
me explaining they're in the cemetery, what this experiment is about.
(35:36):
And as soon as I start explaining what I'm hoping for,
what kind of interaction that I want, you will hear
from the recording in the vacuum this big burst of
energy that starts hitting. It's almost like as soon as
I explain what I'm looking for, what I'm hoping will happen,
(35:57):
the phenomenon starts kicking in. I explained it to the
spirits or whatever, and then they go, Okay, now we
know what this guy wants. He wants us to hit
this thing in that vacuum, and you will hear how
immediately responsive it is once I explain what the experiment
(36:18):
is about. So this clip is thirty five seconds, and
again this is me talking overlaid with what's happening at
the same time in the vacuum. Listen to these hits
that we start getting only on the vacuum sealed recorder. Well,
(36:42):
if we get something on the one that's in the vacuum,
but we don't get anything on the one that's outside
the vacuum, that would lead me to believe something profound
had occurred that there was some type of an inexplicable
force that had targeted the interior your a specific digital
(37:03):
recorder and imprinted a message. On the other hand, if
we get something the one that's outside the vacuum but
not enside, then that would show us that this is
a purely acoustical phenomenon. Now that's pretty weird, okay. And
if you actually see these tracks on an audio editor,
(37:25):
I mean it's amazing, because again there I've done this
many many times. There should not be anything on the
recorder in the vacuum, and yet you can see how
precisely this happens. When I say here's what we want, boom,
boom boom, these big wide bands of interference that you
can see all up and down the entire track hit
(37:48):
at just those points as if I am getting a response.
After that, Deem started actually speaking out to the spirits
and asking questions. And now it seems that this method
of communication has been established, and so now you will
(38:10):
continue hearing specific hits that we're getting on the recorder
in the vacuum in response to certain questions that Dean asks.
So this recording is eighteen seconds, and here is what
happened when Dean started asking questions and we listened to
(38:32):
what was happening in the vacuum at the same time.
Did you work in Las Vegas? What did you do
for a living? Do you have a particular talent you'd
like to melt them out? Now, that to me is
(38:59):
this is mind bogg link that we seem to be
communicating in some way with some intelligence there that is
only targeting the one in the vacuum, as if it's
able to specifically pinpoint that recording. But here's the kicker.
(39:23):
Hit the kicker. Are you ready, There's there's a big
kicker to this. We went there in order to talk
with spirits. But during that day as we were making
our recordings and and mind you, at the time, we
didn't know what the vacuum was capturing. There was one
(39:43):
point in the day when Dean said, Josh, Josh, shosh,
and by the time I ran over there, it was gone.
He saw a UFO shoot over top of us as
we were doing this day of sessions in the cemetery,
(40:03):
and he described it as being like a reflective silvery
orb that just shot right overhead. So now we say, uh,
what were we capturing? Here? Were we getting feedback from
(40:24):
from spirits or feedback from UFOs um. Okay, when we
come back from this break, I'll tell you more about
what I think about this result and how and why
this may actually be some kind of a game changer
(40:45):
when we dig into paranormal audio recording tech. I'm Joshua
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Don't forget you can listen to Strange Things on the
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I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren. And when you do
an experiment like the one that I did with Dean
in two thousand nineteen and you scratch your head, people say, well, what,
(44:46):
what's the explanation? What happened there? Joshua, And the truth is,
I don't really know. I have found that. Indeed, if
you stick with the paranormal investigation world long enough, you'll
find that ghosts, UFOs, cryptids, psychic phenomena, interdimensional things, they
(45:09):
all relate. Like I said, you can measure a circle
beginning anywhere, as Charles Fort said, distinguishing cause and effect. Boy,
that's difficult when you're looking into the invisible realms, the
invisible world. You know, I have a big supporter or
big fan of this show who is an adamant investigator,
(45:33):
and he emailed me the other day and basically said,
I've been playing some of these paranormal tones that you've
had on the show, and I do that when I'm
out looking for UFOs, and recently something news happened. Now
as I've been doing these UFO watches and playing these tones, well,
now I have poulter Geist activity happening at my house.
(45:55):
At the same time, I hear things knocking on the
door and thumping around, an objects, move thing. What's going on?
And I said, well, this is all experimental. The point
is you're stirring up the energy environment when you play
these things. When you do these things and so I
(46:17):
understand why the people come to me and they say,
what's the explanation? But you see, I talk about things
because their mysteries, because I don't know. I am an
expert on what we don't know. I'm not some guru
who's here to give you the answers to everything. I'm
here to explore and present questions and say, this is weird,
(46:37):
this is strange because we don't know the moment we know.
It's sort of out of my category. It's out of
my area of specialty anymore. You know, I'm always looking
at things that we we don't know. Yes, I can
come up with the ideas and theories, but I believe
that there is some connection between UFOs and ghosts, and
(46:58):
we captured some element of that when we were doing
our experiment there in the cemetery um, and whatever was
there was intelligent because it was targeting the device in
the vacuum and making it very clear to us that
that was a response, a timely response to the questions
(47:21):
that were being asked. So, now that I've given you
some more information about sort of my approach to e
v P and paranormal audio, you see the practical approach
that I take. And even though I say like I'm
not the right guy to send e v P two
for analysis, because I have to. I have to make
(47:44):
sure that you know I'm I give valuable input, and
I you know, if you give me some sound that
you captured, I don't know what the circumstances were in
the context were, but Deed Worsing would sure like to
hear it. So if you have some e v P here,
some strange audio that you would like to get to
Dean Worsening, I'll make this real easy for you. If
you go to Joshua P. Warren dot com Joshua P.
(48:07):
Warren dot com. There's no period after the P scroll
down to the bottom. You'll find my email address there.
And if you send me an email that's got some
ghostly or paranormal audio at it, just in the subject line,
just put Dean Worsing first name, D E A N
last named W A R S I N G Dean
(48:27):
Worsing and I'll just forward that onto Dean and if
Dean finds it interesting, then he will get in touch
with you, and you will be in touch with the
best qualified man for the job. Speaking of emails, I
have a really interesting one that I want to read
to you. Before I do that, however, I want to
point out something. A lot of times people, uh, they
(48:51):
listen to this show, and then later on they go
back and they try to find a particular show. What's
the show where you talked about this or that? And
they can't find it. And the reason is when I
record these shows, I write up what I feel is
a very descriptive title for the show, and then I
send that off to producers and everybody, and uh, by
(49:14):
the time it gets posted, rarely doesn't have my full
description in there. And so in order to make this
easier for you, I'm going to start posting my descriptions
of each episode at Strange Things show dot com. So like,
(49:36):
for example, I got an email from a guy who said,
I'd like to hear the one that you did about
alien people who have the alien blood type or alien DNA.
Which one was it? I can't tell. Well, if you
go to Strange Things show dot com, you'll be able
to tell which episode that was in. So that will
help you if you want to go back and research things.
(49:57):
So mark that down as a programming note that Strange
Things show dot com. When you scroll down, there will
have a list of episodes and my description, which will
make it easier for you to find some of the
things that I talk about. So anyway, here is a
really cool email that I got from a man, and
(50:17):
I have his whole name and all that stuff, but
this is such a personal thing that I'm sure he'd
be fine with me giving his name out, but um,
I think I'll keep it private. Um. You know, speaking
of strange audio, you know, tonight or today or whenever
you're listening to this, I've been playing all this paranormal
(50:39):
stuff where you it's kind of creepy and spooky in
some ways erie um, And yet recently I've been playing
this tone that I call the Good Fortune Tone. It's
twenty seconds during the last segment of this show, and
it's a tone taken from the Golden Ratio, the Golden
(51:00):
Mean and I have just been really uh actually, I
have been surprised by the incredible amount of positive feedback
I've been getting from people all over the world telling
me about like how much their lives have improved and
all these cool things that have happened since they started
listening to this tongue. So listen to this one that
(51:23):
I got. The man says, I enjoy it when you
bring images to life with noise, but I must admit
that the good luck noise is abrasive to my ears.
But it worked. I started listening to your podcast about
three weeks ago, and for Christmas morning, my wife gave
(51:43):
me a present with two positive pregnancy tests. After two
years of trying to conceive, we finally did it. And
maybe it was a coincidence, but we happened to get
pregnant around the same time I heard you start playing
the good luck tone food for thought, stay weird. Well,
(52:09):
thank you for that message, sir. And again I could
give your name out, but uh that that's such a
personal thing. I don't think I will. But at the
end of this segment, I'll go ahead and I'll play
it for you again, the twenty second good fortune tone,
since I'm getting such an amazing amount of positive feedback
before I do that, however, Hey, how about a creepy
(52:32):
story that has to do with spirits interacting with things.
This was sent to me by a woman, uh who
is what? She was a police officer. I'm not sure
if she still is. Her name is Joan Rudzinski, Police
officer in two thousand six Anyway in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, she wrote,
(52:56):
I'm a single mom and one night I worked until
eleven d p m. By the time I got home
and let the puppy out and made my way upstairs,
it was about midnight. I passed by my son's bedroom
and stopped to peek in and blow him a kiss
while he's sleeping. I've done the same thing every night
for seventeen years. I had two home phones in my house,
(53:20):
one in my bedroom and one in the kitchen, though
we also both have cell phones. Well. This particular night,
as I passed my son's room, I heard his cell
phone ring. I listened for a minute, he didn't answer,
and it stopped. I didn't think anything more of it
and went to bed. The next morning, I was having
(53:42):
coffee when my son came downstairs getting ready to leave
for school, and he asked, Mom, did you call me
last night? I said no, that I did, explain that
I had heard his phone ring. He showed me his phone,
which said that our home phone had called him at midnight.
(54:13):
That's from a police officer and Philadelphia Joan Radzinski. Seemed
like something from the other side was calling the house,
and I have been sent even some voice smels from
people who believe that a loved one is leaving a
(54:35):
message from the other side. That stuff can be inspirational
or it can be I don't disturbing, but that's one
of my favorite ghostly stories that's been sent to me
from a listener. I'll read more of those types of
stories to you on upcoming podcasts. So all right, my friends,
(54:58):
remember when you listen to the good Fortune tone, if
you can do it, if you're not driving or whatever,
just close your eyes, take a few deep breaths, think
about what you're you're hearing, feel it resonate within you,
and let's see if over the next seven days your
world stays positive. Because so far all the feedback I've
(55:22):
been getting has been nothing but positivity. It's a great experiment.
Let's keep this tulpa going, shall we? All Right, here
you go. That's it for this edition of the show.
(55:58):
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(56:19):
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