Episode 245: Great News on Testing My Alien DNA Sword!

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I am Joshua B. One and each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises,
and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more. On this edition of the show, great news
on testing my alien DNA sword. Oh what a what

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a story? And I guess I should recap for you
what has been happening since last year because last year
in twenty twenty four, I published an episode of this
podcast called Strange Things Episode one eighty three, and it

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was titled Dead Aliens. You won't believe what Joshua received.
That was posted April nineteenth of twenty twenty four, and
I told the story one of the most bizarre I've
ever heard of. A man named John Edmonds who he

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worked for a long time as a counselor and a therapist,
and in his late thirties, he decided he wanted a
more natural life out in the country, and so he
and his wife decided to buy this ranch about an
hour's drive outside of Phoenix, Arizona, called Stardust Ranch, and
this is a very remote area, and so it was

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a big property, ten acres. The house was like three
and a half thousand square feet, five bedrooms, three bathrooms,
large storage area, swimming pool, all that kind of stuff.
The idea was that they were going to open up
some stables there and they would make money by selling

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horse riding trips and that kind of stuff. You know.
He had ideas for how he could profit from living there.
And when he and his wife bought the house, they
were told they found out that it did have a
spooky history. The house had been built in the nineteen seventies,

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and so he bought this house around nineteen ninety six.
So the house had been around for a while, and
apparently at some point, I think in the seventies, there
was a suicide in the house. A young man killed himself,
and so the house already had a spooky reputation. But nonetheless,

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you know, this was his dream come true. But they
started to regret it very quickly because when they really
got settled in was sure enough they started having all
kinds of bizarre, creepy things happening. At first, it was
you know, more moderate stuff, ghostly stuff like shadows weaving around,
objects being displaced, all that, and then things just continued

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to escalate. At one point, there was this weird man
who just showed up wandering around his property. The man
was he looked all disheveled, and he looked he had
a distant look in his eye, and he was carrying
a machetty. And John said, what are you doing? And
the guy says, oh, I'm the one who kills the monsters. Okay.

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So all this kind of bizarre stuff continued, continued to
intensify until finally he and his wife started being abducted
by aliens at night in their bedroom. And I'm talking
about you know, it may have first been dreamlike experiences,

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but very quickly they realized, oh no, no, there are real
physical aliens coming into the house at night. And that's
when the aliens began to show themselves frequently, and he
said that they were just as physical as you and
I are, and he was doing his best to kill them.
He shot numerous aliens on numerous occasions. He said that

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did not seem to phase them, and so he was
trying to figure out how to handle the situation. You
can't just usually call the cops and say, hey, I
have these aliens showing up and harassing me on my
farm every night. Well, long story short, he ended up
obtaining a sword. It was a sword that just kind

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of the way. He described that he was driving down
a road one day and there was a truck in
front of him that had big bundles of stuff, and
he knew something was going to fall off, and sure enough,
an object fell off, and it was this Samurai sword.
Samurai STI elseword, and he felt like this was a
gift from God. And so after that, the next time

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he saw an alien in his house or on his property,
in both cases he found that he could he could
kill them with this sword. Okay, he could cut their
head off. And so the weirdest thing, however, is that
after the alien, After an alien would die shortly thereafter,

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he said that its physical remains would vanish, almost like
it just wasn't actually going to be rooted in this domain,
but they would leave fluids and tissues behind. And so

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he actually got in touch with a doctor, doctor W. C. Levinood,
who analyzed some of the fluid and said that this
was the weirdest thing he'd ever seen, that this DNA
seemed to be a combination of what we would consider
plant and animal. And then right after that, doctor Levin

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Goood died and then his wife died. Now Ghost Adventures,
Zach Began's show did an episode about the story. It
was season fifteen, episode three, at least that's on That's
how it's listed on a Roku Disney Plus. That episode

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is called Stardust Ranch and I think it originally aired
July thirtieth of twenty sixteen. And edmund was talking about
using this sort to kill the aliens and telling the
story right, John Edmunds. It's easy to say John edmund

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It's John Edmunds. So they tried to sell the place
and nobody wanted it. I can see why. And then
when he was I think in his early sixties, he died.
John Edmunds died February of twenty twenty two. I'm not

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sure how he died, but as soon as he was dead,
his wife just got up and left everything. And it
was the price dropped it dramatically, and nobody wanted this.
And you know, this is what you would maybe call

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a stigmatized property. But anyway, all this stuff was sitting
inside the place was left vacant, nobody knew what to
do with it. And then I got contacted by some
paranormal investigators last year named Nathan and Aine, and they

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said they had something amazing to tell me about. And
I should also mention I don't want to forget this.
If you really want the details on this story, there's
a book you can get on Amazon. It's called Stardust
Ranch The Incredible True Story, and it is an incredible story.
So that's a book written by John Edmonds with Bruce McDonald. So,

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Nathan and Angel they said that they worked for this
company that would go to places that had sort of
been abandoned and then they would I guess their job
was to go in and clean them out and see
how much could be liquidated and sort of repossess everything

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on behalf of the bank. And Nathan said that when
he went in there, he was just amazed at how
intact everything was, how literally it looked like John Edmond's
wife had just gotten up and walked out. And there
was still like, you know, food in the fridge, and
there were there were all kinds of you know, expensive

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electronics around vic there were cameras, but the cameras, I
think he said, didn't have any footage in them, so
that's kind of weird. So anyway, as they were going
through the house, well guess what they find. Nathan and
Angel found what appears to be a samurai sword. Okay,

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a samurai sword. And this thing looks like it's been
through some rough times. It's got some scratches on it,
and it's got all kinds of weird stains that look
a lot like blood. And fortunately Nathan and Angel are
big fans of the show and support my work, and

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they said, you know, we don't know the proper way
to test this thing, so we'd like to give you
this sword, Joshua, and and see if you can find
out you know, more about it and what's what this
material is that's on it. So he was very very
kind ship this sword to me. You can imagine how

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excited I was to open that package. And I told him,
you know, even though it was a gift, I felt
I needed to pay him something for it. And so
then I began the process of getting this thing DNA analyzed,
and I thought this is going to be a breeze.
Who wouldn't want to analyze this thing?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Boy was I wrong. When we come back, though, I'm
going to tell you about the great news that I
have and it leads to a bigger conversation actually about
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And think of how excited I was this guy John Edmonds,
who for years owned this infamous ranch. He was all
over the place. He wrote this book called Stardust Ranch,

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The Incredible True Story. He was on TV shows like
Ghost Adventures, a major show. He was interviewed by the
great Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM and told
his story. And he always talked about how he would
use this sword or a sword to kill these aliens.

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And I've got this sword, I say, well, I've got
a famous sword here, so that means that I should
easily be able to get this thing properly tested. Because
who out there in the DNA world would not want
the opportunity to test a sword, a famous sword with

(14:57):
some kind of tissue or fluid on it, given this
this story that's been around forever. I mean, who wouldn't
want to do that? And it turns out that I
have a couple of contacts in the scientific field. And
here's the thing. I know that there are people out
there who call themselves DNA analyst or DNA specialist, but

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a lot of them are not actually that accredited, all right.
So in other words, they may just they may be
either amateurs or they just kind of they work very
very independently without a lot of peer review, or they
are just strictly into the paranormal and say a lot

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of fanciful things. So I was like, no, no, no, I
don't want to waste this opportunity on somebody like that.
I want to go to, you know, a real doctor
at a real university, you know, mainstream university, and have
this done the kind of thing that you might see
done if you were making a documentary for the National

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Geographic Channel or something like that. I think it rises
to that level of interest and significance. So I have
a couple of contacts in the the mainstream university world,
the collegiate world, and I thought, okay, well that's that.
I'll contact them and we'll get the ball rolling and

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figure out what we need to do. So I contacted
them and said, he guess watch, you know, I've got
this marvelous thing, this great opportunity. What do we need
to do to get it tested here? And I was saying,
you know, I'm willing to pay whatever and it is necessary.
And I was shocked when both of them were like, no, sorry,

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can't do that. Why why why not? Like, well, because
it's like we know what you do, Joshua, and we
appreciate what you do. But if we start associating ourselves
with this kind of thing, then it's jeopardizing our credibility
and so we just can't do it. You know, this

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is a livelihood, that kind of thing. And I understand that.
I mean because look, to me, the paranormal is normal
at this point. Everybody is not like that, okay, And
you have these people who are highly qualified, who spent
years in school, and they're trying to get ten year

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at a university or something, and they don't want to
jeopardize it over something that might make them look silly.
I've encountered this kind of thing over the years, and
that's one of the things that holds back paranormal research.
But I was like, okay, that's fine, that's okay. It
should be easy to find somebody out there. So I

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started contacting other places, other credible organizations, let's just put
it that way. And I just kept hitting roadblock after roadblock,
and it was the same old thing. Now, sure, like
you can go and you have like DNA tested for
paternity or something like that to see who the father

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of a kid is or something. But you see, here's
the problem that people don't A lot of people don't
realize that this is the problem when it comes to
DNA testing weird things. DNA, the process of DNA science
is great at matching up to things. So let's say

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you have you have well, like on a crime scene. Okay,
you have a fluid or something or a hair on
a crime scene, and you can take that and then
take a piece of DNA from this individual and see
if they match up. That is very effective. And you

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can also match DNA to a known animal. So let's say,
you know, if you go out there and you get
a frog and we all agree this is a frog.
It's a real frog, and you get that frog's DNA
and you say, here's what that That frog's DNA looks
like this. You put that into the DNA catalog and

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from there on, if you have a mysterious DNA, you
can say, well this we look at look at this.
It matched up with the frog. But if there is
no accepted specimen of something that exists out there, then

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a scientist doesn't have anything to match the DNA with.
And so it's like, how do how do we know
if this is an alien's DNA? If you don't have
a dead alien specimen out there and you can that
you could compare this with. And this goes for bigfoot,

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and it's like you here are these people say, look,
we have bigfoot DNA. Well maybe you believe that because
maybe you've got some weird DNA, but if you can't
compare it to a bigfoot specimen, you can't say this
is bigfoot DNA, and that goes for all cryptids. And
this is the challenge when it comes to getting people

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who are credible to want to test these bizarre, unknown
varieties of DNA. And so I get that, I understand it.
And the limitations of DNA technology are they're they're much
much more, they're much broader than you might think. And

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I've learned a lot, as you can tell by by
trying to do this, because I'd never tried to pursue
having something like this DNA tested before. I thought it
would be relatively easy, because hey, you know, I have
this show here, I work with Coast to Coast AM
and people know who I am and what I do
and my stories out there, and you know it's it's

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it's something of public interest, and you know what. I
started trying and trying and trying to get somebody credible
to take a look at this, and it just wasn't happening.
And I finally got a referral to a professor at

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a mainstream university. And this is this is after months
of trying, because I was not going to just hand
the sword off to somebody or even take an unnecessary
swab unless it was somebody who was really credible and
somebody who would at least be willing to say, hey,

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I'm willing to put my reputation on the line to
say that what we have here is DNA that seems unusual.
And scientists don't like to admit when they don't know things,
but they do exist. There are scientists out there who
are real explorers, real investigators, real researchers. They're willing to
take some risks with their reputation perhaps, and they're willing

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to say I don't know what this is. And so
I contacted this professor. Let's see, I got in touch
with him November of last year, twenty twenty four, and
he works with the forensic doctors at this major mainstream
university here in the United States. And I said, hey,

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I have this famous sword blah blah blah, here's the
whole story. Listen to the podcast I did. I have
not allowed anyone to do a DNA test on these
stains yet, Are you interested? Do you know someone who is?
And he at first he said yes, but you know,
I need to have some meetings with this this committee

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where we go over what we agree to test. And
he's like I said, all right, fine, So, like you know,
a couple of weeks go by and I haven't heard anything,
and he's and then he says like, well, look, real
science takes time. And I was like, okay with this
guy is just another guy who's just given me the
run around here, and uh, I just figured it, well,

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I will just hang on to this sword until the
day comes when you know, somebody will who's who's in
the right position, will contact me about it, about testing it.
And then, much to my surprise, much to my surprise,
just days ago, I got an email from this professor

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at this university and he's he I've got his email
in front of me. He says, thank you so much
for your stream patience. I was hoping to have things
together to send to you to swab the sword in January,
but for a number of reasons, including my building being
unexpectedly shut down for urgent repairs, I only now have

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this ready to send to you. He says, Please send
me your best address. I am sending you two sterile
collection tubes with swabs built in, he said, you only
need one, but this way you'll have an extra iNeST
in case. I'm going to send you one small vial
of DNA free water. I'll send you directions for collecting

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and submitting the sample. It's like it's happening. It's happening.
We're up on a break. When we come back, i'll
tell you what the next step is going to be here,
and then I want to tell you something that I've
learned about these companies that you may have come across
that promise you that if you can you give them

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their DNA, they can give you a complete rundown of
like your health. Sounds a little fishy, doesn't it. I'm
Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM para normal podcast network,
and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back

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to Strange Things. I'm the iHeart Radio and Coast to
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pe Warren, and this is the show where the on
becomes usual. What a year I have had. I mean,

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if you have listened to this show regularly, I mean
it's just been one breakthrough after another, or at least
you know. Here, here's the thing I have to follow
very strict instructions, which I'm very happy to do in
order to properly test to to like, you know, swab

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this sword. And I am going to videotape myself doing
it so that there's no question that the samples have
been collected properly. So I'm keeping the sword. I'm not
sending the sword in. You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
chance that. And then so I'm sending these samples and

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then I don't know how long I'll have to wait,
but I know they are going to a a real
forensics department with real doctors at a real university who
are saying they're going to examine this, and they haven't
asked for any money. I should be receiving their kit

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any day now. And you know the question is, well,
what are they going to find? And here's here's here. Honestly,
here's my thinking on this. I do people are probably
shocked to hear this, but I do understand and believe
deeply in the scientific method. And a part of thinking

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that way is considering what's known as Ockham's razor, and
that is that the likeliest explanation is usually the correct one.
That if you have something sounds like it's wrapping on
your wall at night. Maybe it's a ghost, but maybe

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it's more likely that you have a pipe or something
like that that is creaking under certain circumstances. So you
have to see what the likeliest thing is. So look,
I would not be a bit surprised if they come
back and say, well, you know, this guy lived on
a ranch. I mean, I don't know if he was
out there killing chickens or something. It's like, I wouldn't

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be surprised if they say this is chicken blood or
or either human blood or who knows. I mean, this
guy could have been making everything up and he could
have just smeared some blood from the butcher shop on
this thing. So I mean, and that's fine because I
feel like that one way or another, this mystery is

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going to be solved because they're either going to come
back and they're going to say basically one of three things.
They're gonna say, uh, yeah, this is blood from a
from a hog or whatever, or they're gonna say this
is uh the sample is not even DNA, and it
wasn't good enough shape to test. We couldn't tell anything
about it, so we can't conclude anything, or they're going

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to say, this appears to be DNA, but we can't
match it to anything in the catalog, and that would
be the coolest outcome, because I think that would be
about the best that we could get from this. But
you know what, if you had a credible university that

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collected something like that, then at least it would allow
them to go forth and maybe start comparing other supposed
alien blood or whatever that's found in other sites where
people have had these encounters, and that would be very interesting.
So I'm fortunate that you know, the scientists are telling
me right now that they are open minded to tackle

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this and do it properly, and so yes, you will
be the first to know the results. So be sure
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pe Warren, because that'll be the fastest way for me
to get the word to you. But here's what I
wanted to bring up to you now that I've been

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sort of studying and I'm by no means a DNA expert,
but you know, I've been looking into this a lot
more than the average person, as you can tell, and
my wife Lauren. She contacted me a while back, and
she was telling me about some of these kits that
she'd seen out there on the marketplace. There are companies
that say that you can get a kit and send

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them some of your DNA and they can turn around
and give you an analysis of all of your sort
of health issues that you may or may not be
prone to have. And that's because I have a lot
of quirky health issues. I don't want to get into
all that right now, but you know, I was I

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almost died when I was born. Every time the doctor
was trying to deliver me, the biblical cord was pulling
me back in and choking me to death. It was
around my neck several times. My dad said that when
I finally was released, that I had purple splotches all
over my head and they had to put me in
some kind of chamber and so that I came into

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the world with difficulty, you know. So it's it's always
been a little weird for me. So Lauren was saying,
you know, have you seen these kits that these companies
are providing where it would be interesting to see if
they could tell you, you know, if you have some kind
of you know, genetic quirks. I'm a weirdo anyway. So
and so I said, well, let me look into this.

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And here's what I have found. There is such a
thing as d n a H testing for for health purposes.
There are certain particular genes that you can look through
that can be matched up with certain particular conditions. But

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from all the research that I've done, most of these
doctors who are experts of this say this is we
don't have the ability right now to honestly to take
these companies seriously. For one thing, these companies they charge
a lot of money, like for example, there's one on Amazon,

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and I think the cheapest you can get one of
their kids for is six hundred dollars. And then once
they send you the results, well now you also have
to subscribe and continue paying them. And so and I
was looking at this kit all these kinds of kids
that I found that they claim that they can do
that give you a health profile like that. They don't

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have many reviews, and most of the reviews are bad.
As a matter of fact, that particular one that she
sent me and I'm not going to use any names.
I was just looking at it before the show it
says right there on Amazon on frequently returned item, it
only has thirteen reviews to and then it says frequently

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returned item. Well, I wonder why that is. And if
you just start looking at the reviews of these things,
then you'll you'll realize that there are a lot of
problems there. Furthermore, there are experts at doctors who say,
you can go to two of these different companies that
are claiming to offer the same kind of service and

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then they will both send you back results that are different.
So how should that happen? Who's you know, where's the
credibility there? So from what I understand from talking you know,
or and doing just doing research, is that look that
Like I say, some of these health tests can provide

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insights into certain genetic predispositions and carrier status. But there
are these commercial companies that are not intended to diagnose diseases.
There are a lot of factors that may affect how
the results are interpreted. And there are a lot of
doctors who say that this can cause big problems because

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if they send you some kind of information and say, oh,
you're inclined to have some kind of a health problem,
now you start freaking out and it becomes a self
fulfilling prophecy. And so most doctors out there, I mean,
I guess you could say there are some mixed results,
but for the most part, the technology just isn't there yet.

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But you know, now that I have a legitimate DNA
expert that I'm going to be able to correspond with,
at some point I will ask the real experts to
give an opinion on that. And you know, and I
don't talk about health stuff, so I'm not going to
give you kind of any health advice. I'm just telling

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you what I found that I don't I don't. I mean,
if you could do it, you know, for a hundred
bucks or whatever, and it might be an interesting novelty,
and especially if you don't have to like sign up
and subscribe to some service. But right now, everybody's just like,
look that we don't have the credible commercial companies out
there that can fulfill what they're offering, especially for the

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prices they're charging. And again it kind of goes back
to like DNA people they hear about it all the time.
They're like, oh, crime's got solved. So they think if
DNA is brought up something is automatically credible. But that's
what they actually understand very little about what the strengths
and weaknesses of DNA are. And like I say, it's

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mainly for matching up things, matching up known variables, matching
up certain types of people with other types of people,
or matching up a certain person with his or her
own DNA. Or it can be used by medical professionals
to go in and look at for very particular types

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of genes and anomalies and such that may apply to
a very particular condition for a particular person. But I'm
not ready to go spend money on that yet, and
so that's just my opinion. But I'll let you know,
like I say, if that changes is you know, the

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technology is changing at light speed. Okay, it's time for
a break. When we come back, I think I'm going
to end the show by catching up on some stuff
that I call mental manner. These are things that I
just like to talk about because well, the show is
it's called strange things, and sometimes I just come across

(36:48):
things that I think are odd. And I just discovered
something odd the other day, something strange about Marguerita pizza. Yeah,
Margarita Pizza and it's that kind of a program. We

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can go anywhere we want. I wonder if you know
this bit of trivia, and I've got some other mental
manna for you as well. To end the show on
a quirky note, why not. I'm Joshua Pee Warren, and
you are listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and
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will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment

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of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host,
Joshua P. Warren, And here's something that's just been on
my mind for a while. I was, you know, thinking
about the idea of testing like DNA testing paranormal things.

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And I just want you to know that sometimes I
hear people talk about, well, is is this is this
a bigfoot? Or is this a paranormal thing? Or is
this an alien or is this a paranormal thing or
and you know what, in my mind, like paranormal means

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beyond normal. That kind of covers it all. So saying ghosts,
UFOs and bigfoot and the paranormal is I guess it's
kind of like saying Big Max whoppers and burgers. It's redundant.

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To me, it's all paranormal. It's either normal or it's
not normal. And we can argue about what normal is
and how to draw the line there. But to me,
ghosts are paranormal. UFOs are paranormal. Bigfoot's paranormal, All cryptids
are paranormal. If it's not if it falls outside of

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the average person's daily experience, we can call that paranormal.
It's all paranormal, folks. And maybe you know, maybe this
is just semantics and I'm splitting hairs here, but here's
another tip that I will give those of you out
there who fancy yourselves UFO and you a researchers. A

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lot of people say there was a craft over here
flying through the air, and then they'll say, then they
saw two crafts over there flying through the air. Well,
as far as I understand, the plural of the word
craft is craft, so you can say there's one craft
over here or there are five craft over there, but

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I don't think you're supposed to say crafts. And also
people mix up the word phenomenon, which is singular with
phenomena and that's the plural. So it's like, we have
a strange phenomenon happening on this mountain, and we have
three strange phenomena happening over on that mountain. You know,

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I'm a writer. I'm sorry, but I once in a
while I think about how we we define these things.
A lot of it begins, you know. We think about
things often beginning with the how we the language and
how we phrase it. There's a relationship between how we
envisioned concepts and how we talk about these things. And so,
you know, I think that's interesting and I think it's important.

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All right, now, time for some mental manna. And again,
this is just stuff that it's not necessarily paranormal, but
it's strange to me and stuff that I just kind
of come across in my life. Who does it like pizza?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
And as a matter of fact, do you know where
the word pizza comes from? I wasn't sure, and then
recently I was looking it up, says The oldest recorded
usage of the word is thought to be from May
nine ninety seven of CE. That's a long time ago,
the year nine ninety seven. It appeared in a Latin

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document from part of the Byzantine Empire, but they think
that the entomology it goes back to the Byzantine Greek
and Late Latin, which basically they had a word piita
for piita bread. We all have heard of pia bread
around flat bread baked in the oven at high temperatures,

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and then occasionally I guess they would add toppings. And
so I think piza is where the word pizza came from.
Now you could say, well, where did peta come from?
We could keep going down that rabbit hole. But that's
all you need to know for now. But you know,
I've always been, you know, being a typical American pig.

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You know, I like, I love those supreme pizzas that
have all that all, like the meat lover stuff. I
can't eat that as often as I want anymore. Now
that I'm middle aged trying to take better care of myself,
I don't know how well that's going. I'll have to
go one of those DNA tasks. But I used to
never order a margarita pizza and uh and I'm not

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talking about like a margarita drink. That's a different story.
I believe that would drink was named after Oh, a
prominent lady in Mexico. Another story for another day. But
pizza Margarita known as Margarita pizza, that's spelled m A
r g h E r I t A. It's it's

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a roundish pizza and it's considered a Neapolitan pizza and
it's seasoned with hand crushed peeled tomatoes, mozzarella usually buffalo mozzarella,
fresh basil leaves, and extra virgin olive oil. And apparently

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if you go you go back to the history of this.
The story is that there was a Queen Margherita and
back in eighteen eighty nine, who is visiting this town. Sorry,
I should have brushed up on this a little bit better.

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She was visiting a town they were celebrating her, and
so they asked one of the chefs to make a
special pizza to honor her, which had the colors of
the Italian flag, red for tomato, white from montzauela, and
green for basil. And so they named it after the queen,
the Margarita Pizza. Well, I tell you all this because

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I never again, I'd never really ordered margarita pizzas. But
I was watching this YouTube video about restaurants in Las
Vegas and there was this one food reviewer who is like,
oh my gosh, you have to go to this restaurant
here on the strip where they make this margharita pizza
and all the ingredients have to be exact to the

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standards of the margarita pizza in Italy from this little region,
and that they have to import their their flour to
make their dough, they have to import the cheese that like,
you have to import everything. You have to put it
in a certain type of oven for a certain period
of times, like super strict standards, the kind of stuff

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you hear people apply to like maybe different types of
waggu steaks, and she was just talking about how heavenly
it is. Well, I figure, you know, I've not been
to Italy, and I don't know if I'm going to
make it to Italy. So one day Lauren and I
were in the area. We go, let's go there and
see what this super authentic pizzas is as supposed to
be like. So we go in there and they bring

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out this rather ordinary looking margherita pizza because they had
so few toppings on him, and it was absolutely delicious,
one of the best pizzas I've ever had. And I was,
you know, really surprised by it was very light. It
was not thick with all these toppings like we Americans are.

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So I started looking into this and I found one
other restaurant where I went to where they have these
same strict standards, and I found out that what you
have possibly eaten or probably eaten your entire life, that
you call a margarita pizza is not an authentic margarita

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because when you go to one of these places that
has all the stuff imported, they have permission to call
there as a margharita DOC. The DOC stands for the
and I don't speak Italian, the nominacion the originic controller,
which I means like domain of original control. That is

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an Italian designation of controlled origin, meaning the ingredients are
from specific high quality regions and made to certain standards.
And I mean it's like, this is a big deal.
If you if you have this designation at your straw
and you screw up, you know, you're blackballed basically. And

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so I was like, well this is and so I
got one of these docs again and I was like, man, yeah,
this is like if this is one of the best
pizzas I've ever had that margarita doc. So I started
looking into the ingredients and I was like, okay, so
it takes buffalo mozzarella. So I was talking to one
of the servers and I was like, so, what's the
story behind buffalo mozzarella And the server said, oh, it

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comes from buffaloes in Italy, and I was like what.
Lauren and I both are like what. Sure enough, buffalo
mozzarella is a mozzarella made from the milk of the
Italian Mediterranean buffalo. It's a very particular thing from that region.

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They say that the history of why that there are
water buffalo at Italy is not clear. One theory is
that Asian water buffalo were brought to Ita by Goths
during the migrations of the early medieval period. You can
look into this yourself, but did you realize that when
you if you order a margarita and it's got buffalo mozzarella,
it's mozzarella that came from a water buffalo in Italy.

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Go get yourself a margarita. DC. All right, that's the
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