Championing Change: Sustainable Lifestyles and Healthy Eating

This episode Tamika D. Mallory and Mysonne discuss the lack of interest in environmental sustainability and healthy eating among African-Americans, however, many are no strangers to sustainable living and healthy eating. They had several guests join to discuss the importance of Sustainable Lifestyles and Eating Healthy. Styles P and his wife Adjua Styles speak about what inspired their many health brands and why changing the way we eat is important. Ethiopia youth environmental activist and Applied Biologist Jodahi Bezabih Petros speaks about being more socially responsible and his E-nfluencer movement in Ethiopia. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up, family, I'm your girl to make a d.
Mallory and it's your boy, my sell in the general
and we are the host of street politicians, the place
where the streets and politics meet. How feeling it's a
good day, good day, I mean, you know, good day,
nervy time, nervy time that's happening. To be very careful

(00:25):
to protect our energy and to know that it is um,
it's not. It's not our faults, nothing wrong with black people.
That there's something wrong with the world and the way
it treats us. And we have to protect our energy
and not allow ourselves to go into a complete depression
because we could. Yeah, you're right. We were already dealing
with the Derek Chauvin case for the murder of George Floyd,

(00:47):
and now we have to see a young another young
boy murdered at the hands of police for a traffic like.
I don't understand. How do we constantly find ourselves in
the same situation where officers have excuses and reasons and
all type of things for why they kill people unarmed

(01:08):
Black people, unarmed like it's the same situation. I posted
something on my Instagram the other day where it showed
how armed white people are arrested. You know, some of
them are threats, they've murdered people, they've done all type
of things, but they're actually arrested. They have due process,
you know, they actually go to court and you know,

(01:30):
and go through the whole process. But unarmed black people
never even make it to a chorouse, they never make
it to a sale to even be trying, like and
it's just crazy, man, It's a lot too many, too
many cases. And you know, Dante right just looking at
I wrote on my page that when I was looking
at the picture that began circulating of him and his baby,

(01:52):
it hurt to see him and to know that he
was killed. I was even more traumatized by looking at
that little baby, knowing that if we don't get this
thing right, he could be he could fall victim to
the same exact type of situation. And the world itself
is just it's just so cold. Our children and what

(02:14):
they are experiencing and what we are all experiencing. It's
too much trauma. There were too many black women who
have black boys who text me after Dante Wright was
shot and killed, murdered, as you said and said to me,
I'm terrified. I'm terrified. I'm terrified for my sons. I'm

(02:34):
terrified for my husband. I'm terrified, Like I'm living in
a literal state of terror. And that's the thing that
I have. I have to be really careful because I'm
already consumed. Every time my child moves, I'm like, where
did you go, where you at, what you're doing, who
you talk? Did you wear this? They don't do this,
don't wear that. Those earphones in your ears, and where

(02:56):
you can't hear when you're walking down the street in
case they tell you to freeze or whatever. I'm already
putting him through all of that, and now I'm he
wants to I'm scared to let him drive. I mean,
he can drive, and he drives well, but I'm afraid
it's too many and and and I think there are
so many white folks who are now starting to say
I just don't have these same fears and they and

(03:19):
they don't because their reality is different. So when we
look at these cases and we constantly see the same
thing in the same response, you know, they are actually
people who say, well, he had a warrant, you know,
he had a he had a warrant. He he tried
to run from the police, and and those things are
things that you get arrested for, you know, those are
things that you get arrested for. Somebody issues a warrant,

(03:42):
you go to arrest, you have your dad court, you
prove whether you're in it's a guilty, you go through
the due process. But a warrant is not a warrant
to be killed. You know, there's no warrant that you
can issue a person that that commands and demand is
going to be killed. And we and we are constantly
issue death ones, you know, we are constantly issued as
a black man, death warrants and sentence. Because this was

(04:04):
a death warrant, like a warrant that was issued ended
up in this man being killed, you know, literally killed.
It's way too much as a black man, you know,
having like you said, having conversations with other young black
man trying to make them understand. But we get to
a point where it comes fed up. I was actually
watching the news where the police tried to pull somebody

(04:25):
over and the guy just had a gun shooting and
these things, like you at some point, right at some point,
it was a black man. He was he pulled up
on him and he had a shotgun. I don't even
know what it was, but I was like you, at
some point, what do you expect people to do it.
I'm not calling for violence, and we're definitely not saying that,

(04:45):
but I'm just trying to say, you cannot continue to
kill people and expect them to just wait for you
to kill him. You can't. We can't constantly keep seeing
these images of us being pulled over for routine check,
you know, traffic violations or traffic stops, and dying and
expect you to keep pulling us over. You know, we
got and then not even that, you got the guy
that was in the army, the yeah, the serviceman, the

(05:08):
serviceman like you, you sit there and you see that,
and he did. I found out today that he's the
nephew of Eric Gana's mother. So miss Carr, that's her nephew.
And she she told the story on on a CNN interview.
She said that her her niece sent her the video,
and she said, people send her these horrible videos all

(05:29):
the time and she doesn't really like to watch them,
but this particular day she looked at the video and
just saw this horror, horrifying event occur, and she was like,
this is terrible and kind of went on about her life.
What she didn't know was that that was her own
family member. And then she said that, you know, that
happened in December of two thousand twenties, so this happened

(05:50):
last year, at the end of last year. So she's
saying that she saw him February of this year at
a funeral for another family member, I think the un goal,
and she said he was very different, very quiet. You know,
you could tell that he has suffered extreme trauma. It actually,
obviously it changes your life. Look at what a he

(06:11):
went through. I mean, it's just like you said, it's
way too much and at some point something has to happen.
And I don't know what that is, but I know
that when I when when I first got on social media,
it was almost unheard of to hear people saying that
that it was time to shoot back or you know,
or kill cops and crazy stuff like that. Like it was,

(06:33):
it was it was almost unheard of to hear that.
But now as time is going on and this years later,
since I've been on socials, there's so much more of
this of that what is now what I considered to
be mental illness, because you know, the trauma is making
people sick. Yes, it's PTSD is really watching something happened

(06:55):
and fearing that it could be you, you know, and
and that's what the human human nature of self reservation,
you know. And when you think that you're just going
to continue to kill people and continue to take their lives,
whether you say it's an accident or whatever, you know,
at some point it doesn't matter. You know, you know,
the road to hell was paying with good intention. So

(07:16):
that doesn't that doesn't don't tell us that because we
don't care about We just want to live. The bottom
line is we're trying to live. And you know, and
and and somebody and I tell people all the time,
I'm not gonna sit there. I'm not gonna sit there.
I've seen Dr Cornell West he was doing an interview
and he was talking about how he could not watch
what was happening to George Floyd. It's no way he

(07:39):
would be there to sit there for nine minutes. He says,
they are black men in this world that are not
going to watch that. We're gonna have to intervene. We're
gonna risk all and I'm one of those whitmen, you know.
So that's another fear. That's another that's another fear because
I my father, my son, my brothers, they are not
the type of people that are gonna I mean we
first of all, we were raised in a revolutionary family.

(08:02):
So they're not the type of people that are gonna
stand by and watch. But but you don't want people
who did stand by and watch to feel bad like
they like like it's the bottom line is that the
situation we're being put in is not right. You know
what I'm saying. It's just not right. You should not
have to choose between stepping into and a murder in

(08:26):
progress and getting yourself killed as well, because believe it,
believe it, those other police officers that were there who
did nothing to help George Floyd, oh, they would have
pulled their guns on another person that ran up on
them and those and those individuals could have been killed
as well. And it's like, what what exactly do we do?

(08:47):
And and it brings me to my thought of the day,
because you know, now I'm just like thinking and in
a lot of ways, I feel paralyzed, you know, and
I haven't really been talking to you guys about it.
What I've been dealing in my own mind with feeling
paralyzed because I'm tired of doing the same thing over
and over again and getting no results. Like I'm tired

(09:10):
of it, you know what I mean. And I have
conversations with the mothers of the movement, and I see
the pain like the every time the Dante right happens,
every time they run that video back in the courtroom,
even if the mothers are in watching that day. You know,
your socials, your family members, they're gonna mention, oh my god,

(09:32):
we have to watch it again today. Do you know
what they go through? The fathers, the fare. I can't
imagine what Tracy Martin, right, Trayvon Martin's father, knowing that
his son was visiting with him, this happened in his
community on his watch. You know, his son was murdered
by somebody that I'm sure he feels like if he

(09:53):
had known that this was going on outside, he would
have gone out there and saved his son. And he wasn't.
He wasn't allowed to do that. I mean, you've got
so many fathers. You've got Mike Brown, you have Oscar
Oscar Grant's uncle, uncle Bobby. There's father's mother's sisters. You
look at Dante Wright's family, his aunt, his hont is
out there screaming out like, how did this happen to

(10:16):
my nephew? She had to pick up her mother on
like a twelve hour drive from Alabama to Minnesota to
go pick up the boy's grandmother. Like this is some serious,
serious ship it is. It's really it's really dramatic, traumatic, drastic.
You know, I was watching oh Man, the young lady.

(10:38):
She was in the middle of the street screaming and crying.
Look what they did to my brother. He didn't deserve this,
you know. And we just a family, and there's a
baby that doesn't even know what's going on. It's just
a lot. But anyway, my thought of the day as
I'm you know, we're all on the edge of our seats.
Just so people know, we are taping this episode today.
And therefore, uh, the George Floyd, the verdict for the

(11:02):
officer who killed George Floyd, the ex officer who killed
George Floyd. It has not been released yet, um, but
by the time this airs it may so we will
have to come back and talk about that and update
folks at that time, Um, and what I was really
thinking about, it's like, doesn't make sense to even have
a trial if what we know, because I was listening

(11:25):
to them today, the the prosecution rested, the defense has rested,
so now it's about to go into close and arguments,
and I'm sitting there listening to them saying it only
takes one juror to stop a conviction to throw the
whole situation. I know, it's like, that's funny, that's that's

(11:47):
actually very interesting because even if there's well, well, I mean,
there have been situations which have been hail Mary's right.
But I know for sure from being in jury duty
and also having family members and friends who go to
jury duty, that they that jurors feel extremely pressured, extremely

(12:10):
pressured too. Like, so if there's one juror that's holding out,
that juror gets a lot of pressure and a lot
of talking to and a lot of convincing and working
on that juror to join the rest of the group
to convey they do. I mean, people, that's where it works, right,
But I bet you in this situation, if there's one

(12:33):
juror who wants to hold out, I bet you it's
gonna be it won't be due process if we, you know,
put too much pressure on that person or make them
feel like their decision is being you know, changed based
upon the opinion of whoever the court, the prosecut or,
whoever it is the judge. I think for me, if you,

(12:56):
if you've been watching this trial right in there is
a doubt that that I'm George Floyd's life was taken
by anything other than this man putting his foot on
his name. If you've seen something his knee, his knee,
whatever it is. If you watch this trial over and over,

(13:22):
watching that video, hearing those people say hey, stop, stop,
you're killing this man, watching this man have no remorse,
no empathy, no sympathy, not move from the same spot,
and continuing as a man played for us life. If
you watch this trial where they showed where everyone over
and over said that this man would have been alive

(13:44):
had this foot not been on his neck, I don't.
I don't think I think that is the overwhelming consensus.
If you can watch that and come back and say
that this man is not guilty of killing this man,
then I don't. I don't know where we go with
justice in them. I don't know. I don't even know
what we do. It's not about. But that's the thing, right,
So so right now, I think the makeup of the

(14:04):
jury is eight white folks and four people of color
and probably five five because I think you have to
have alternate or whatever. But I don't know for sure.
I know there's twelve people for show, and eight of
them are definitely white. Um. Now, first of all, the
assumption that people of color are going to side or
be on the right side of justice and the right

(14:24):
side of history is not always an assumption that should
be made. Because we've seen black folks walk into the
room and say, I'm not gonna I'm I'm not black,
I'm you know, I'm American, I'm I'm fourth, i'mb human. Right,
We've seen that. So you can't be too sure that
just because there are a few black, you know, black,
black and brown people on the jury, that they are

(14:45):
going to just go along with what we know is right.
We're not asking you to go in and do anything illegal.
We're not asking you to lie. We're not asking you
to choose the movement, uh to feel sorry for George Floyd.
We're talk about the law, the facts, and what you
see happening in front of your eyes. Right, But and

(15:05):
and and and and and there may be many white
people who actually side with our community because we've seen
that that somebody was telling the story the other day. Yeah,
somebody was telling me this a story the other day
of how a white man a white woman lied on
him and the white husband approached a man in the store.

(15:25):
It was something to do with a mask or whatever,
and the white husband approached him and it was another
white man that got involved and told the husband, hey,
your wife is lying. So I you know, I can't
sit here and say that all the white people are
going to be wrong. We don't know what's gonna happen,
but it takes one person. And the thing about what

(15:46):
you're saying that if you could watch that trial and
go against justice, not against George Floyd, against justice, If
you could do that, it's something wrong with you. But
the issue is they could be watching it and no
damn well that what they see is actually unjustified and
go along with what they believe is their duty to

(16:07):
whomever it is that they serve and the people that
they serve, or the whatever they serve. It is not
us it's not our communities, it's not black men, it's
not it's none of that. Right, White supremacy is alive
and well. And it's very possible that one person on
that jury will say I just can't do it, like

(16:31):
they got people to come in in and lie on
the stand, and you know, in terms of of of
witnesses or whatever experts that try to lie and say
stuff about carbon monoxide and and it wasn't his knee
wasn't really on the neck and all of this craziness.
So if those people were willing to do that, then
why is it that a German? You know? And I

(16:53):
don't want to think negatively, must that's not the thing
with something I'm trying to do. So I don't want
people to feel like why I'm my bringing negative energy
to this situation. I'm just bringing reality because we see
it happen all the time. And when I heard them today,
they kept saying, it's almost like the media gets you
prepared for what they know is coming. And I and

(17:13):
I was specifically watching Fox News because you know that's
something I do, and everybody ask me, why do you
do that to yourself? I have to watch Fox News
because That's where I learned the lies. I see when
all of a sudden they put my face up and
they start talking about terrorism. In the same segment, in
the same segment with stories about me, Linda's star sore
portreats colors of Black Lives Matter, Sean King like they

(17:36):
will put us on Fox News, And in the same
same segment, somehow terrorism and and and how BLM or
Black Lives Matter as a movement, not the organization is
you know, it's a terrorist or terrorist group. They say
the craziest things about us. So I watch Fox News
to keep up with what the opposition is saying and

(17:58):
how they're positioning them cells. And by the way, they
are using their media to organize, to organize an arsenal,
a movement of people who are against us. And I
noticed today they kept saying it only takes one it
only takes one jury only. What does that mean? It
means exactly what they said, It only takes one juror,

(18:20):
you know, to funk it up, you know, And that's
just the reality. And that's what that's what our justice
system has and that's why we've been failed. Because the
one j when you when you're in the minority. You know,
when you look at the reality of what America is
based on and built on, and how the value of
black life, like we have to say black lives matter,

(18:41):
because the value of black life has not mattered to
the to the majority of this country since its inception.
So that's what we face with we they understand that
all we need is one person to understands that white
supremacy has to continue to go on to be on
that jury and say, look, I don't given what happened,
he ain't guilty. You know, the same way that you

(19:02):
was having a conversation right about what we were talking
about jury duty. And that's why black people, please, you
got to go to jerry duty. You got stuff to do.
You don't want to sit there. But black people need you.
Black people need you, man, because if you don't understand

(19:25):
what they if you understand what they're facing, you know
you might need them one day. Wow, that's deep. No,
for real, Like as many times as we have figured
out ways to circumvent going to jury duty, you don't
have to go to jury duty because I don't know
because I have a feeling, but I remember being called
to jerry duty for years and I'm not doing And

(19:48):
when I sat there and I watched, because you get
to see them pick the jury, and they asked them
certain questions and it was people that was like, yo,
I just I know him, I've seen him with anything.
I see him before. Here a good dude. I ain't
gonna send him to Jim And okay you dismissed. I'd
be like, why do you have to say that, man,
I need you. What was your experience? My experience for

(20:11):
Jerry was it was it was. It was the worst
experience I ever had watching my jurry get picked. It
was probably about five white people, three blacks and two
like three Hispanics to its Latinos my fault and in

(20:31):
the way they positioned, and I was just and I
watched how they they try to set it up. It's
like a battle, right, and they pick two people who
are strong willed in both different directions. You got one
person is that you could tell way more conservative, and
they're not from your community, and they don't really care,
and you could tell if they're looking at you in
a certain way. Then you've got one person and said,
I'm from the community and I think I could be

(20:53):
feeling this trial and this and that, and it seems
like they kind of for you. So they set it
up to where there's this battle with both of them,
and then everybody else is kind of like a supporting cast.
They just fit in here and there and they can
be swayed. So they know exactly what they doing, and
you don't. You don't get it. You just watch them.
You don't know what. You don't know what. We have

(21:15):
to go to jury dude, we have to. We have
to go to It's so important. If it's nothing else
that you take from this conversation today and from the
George Floyd case and so many cases, is that we
have to be the spooks that sat by the door,
the watchman for our community. Um, we've got to go
to jury duty and make sure that and not I'm

(21:37):
not saying go to jury duty and do anything illegal
or wrong. I'm saying that too many of our people
are being wrongfully convicted because we're unlawfully treated and unprotected
and we need you and need to bring your perspective
and your understanding of the culture. That So when they're
having these conversations, they said, oh, he had to do

(21:58):
this because I've done this before and I ain't do
none of that, So why does that make them guilty?
When you when you're having a conversation with a novice
about our culture, about our communities, about how we think,
how we move things that even go on our communities
and in our neighborhoods, and then they tell you that
these things that they talk about symbolized crime to symbolize violence.

(22:19):
And then they'd be like, wow, that does symbolize but
you don't. When you come from that, you're like, well,
I did all of those things and it wasn't violence,
but it didn't mean it wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't
about that. You have a different perspective that you have
to be able to bring into this justice system, into
these courtrooms and onto these juries so that you can
make sure that we're actually getting a fair shot. Absolutely, absolutely,

(22:42):
I mean that's the real that's the thought of the day.
Before we go to the next segment and have our
special guests joint, we're gonna take a quick break for
our sponsors. So today our topic is about sustainable living
and healthy eating choices. And to help us with this
topic because two of my favorite people, you know, one

(23:04):
of my favorite lyricists of old times. You know a
brother that you know, I've it might have been close to,
you know, came up in the ranks and just watched
him continue to just elevate his mind and still be
one of the most stellar lyricists that I've ever heard
in my life is my brother Styles P. A. K.
Two Ghosts and his wife are Styles. They have been

(23:28):
on this health thing like I've watched from the first
juice Ball to continue and watching Styles continue to get
healthy and watching them come together and teach the world
about health. So is an honor to have y'all royalty, Royalty,
King and Queen I am. I just want you all
to know that I'm starstruck right like you know, the younger,

(23:51):
the newer artists, I'm kind of trying to learn who
they are get into it. But all the folks that
are veterans in the industry I just love so much.
And so Styles p amazing to have the opportunity to
sit with you. And your wife is beautiful and she's
probably the actual brains on everything. And so we're gonna

(24:12):
talk to the brains today and we're talking about sustainable
living and healthy eating for African America, for African American people. Yes, yes,
because we happen to be African American. So we want
to talk about how we can eat healthy. You know,
what do we need to do and is you know,
there was a there was a Huffington Post then that

(24:34):
you did like in and you talked about there were
things that our communities were lacking, you know, access education,
and I forgot the third thing. The third thing was
that I think, um that that we had too many
grocery So we're not no, we don't have grocery stores.
We're lacking there right their food deserts in our communities.

(24:56):
We don't have the things we need, but we have
liquor stores. We had to have all the unhealthy things.
Do you still feel like that's the same problem or
you feel like we're doing better because so it's been
what six years now, Well, well it's it's a slow crawl,

(25:16):
you know, it's a slow qualm with there's definitely some
change and improvement. But you know, the more awareness is
the more improvement and the more changed. So we gotta
keep working, you know, but there definitely is changed. But
the real problem is just comes down to the demographics again.
You know, even in even with the supermarkets or what's
available there. It's just not quick quality. You know, it's

(25:38):
not if anything that's it's it's nutritious. So that's the issue.
It's just changing the entire game and making sure that
we are thriving in our communities with the right produce
and the right nutrition so that you know, we can
elevate ourselves, you know, to be the best that we
can be because we're so displaced. So the food is
where we start, you know. But there definitely has been change,

(26:00):
So I will say that it's just you know, it's
not major enough. There's actually it's been a major change.
But what it really is is as as brown people,
you have to realize in the black community, you have
to realize how long we've been behind the april. Like
if you if you if you're fortunate enough as a
black person to have money, do you compare So when

(26:21):
you live in a you know, an affluent both in
neighborhood as in contrast to a poor neighborhood, you get
to see how much behind on the april we are.
So there there's not enough style families, pharmacy for Life's
juices for life is not about just us doing it
it's us as a whole as the people like. Because
when you if we mentioned fast food and I asked

(26:41):
you to ramble off fast food names, you're gonna you
can ramble off at least twenty before you even have
to slow down, especially in the hood. So we've made
major change. The information is getting out there, but the
change we stand full. We do not expect to be
alive to see to be with you know this day
have hundreds of years ahead of us. So we're glad

(27:03):
to see the changes coming. And you know, people are
picking up. But until we really understand that, um, this
this war and many different fasts, and is this the
way we always say, it's not. Everybody offer through the fool,
through the water, and through the miseducation. So until we
get a lot further with that, and we have everybody

(27:24):
on every neighborhood and every poor neighborhood and every ghetto
blood crip MS thirteen neutral buzz vibers working until everybody's
on that one. To let me feed my family right
and let me take care of myself first and foremost
in my family. You know, we just scratching the surface,
but we did a lot of scratching on the surface,
but we got we got a lot more to do.

(27:45):
You know. You talk about Juices for Life, pharmacy for life,
you know, and I've known you for years. When the
first Juices for Life opened in Castle Hill and I
was there and I was like, oh Castle Hill and listen, yeah,
I remember like that was the first time. I'm like, okay,
they got the juice bar because I remember that was

(28:06):
one of the rough riders things. They used to be
in Harlem around the juice bars a lot and a
lot of people. So I used to go down there
in the Harlem and meeting with a lot of different
rough riders, So I know that was always the thing
that you know, there was people were around the juice
bar when you first opened it. It was like dn
they actually opened their own. So when did you start
to make this healthy transition? Like what created it for you? Um?

(28:29):
My wife, My wife making shot I eat right at
home and starting to tell me to incorporate, you know,
because when you're at home at home, I always ate well.
You know, she's an excellent cook and a health minded cook,
so I always ate well. But at that time I
was on the road a lot and doing a lot
of fast food. So between that and actually getting in

(28:51):
trouble and realizing that I was somewhere chemically way off.
I don't know what was happening. I was systemically I'm
probably just naturally off, but the food wasn't really helping.
So I started, um, you know, at the time, I
was actually getting getting into a lot of trouble. I
had multiple cases. So I tried to eat home and
eat eat healthy at home, but also spend my time

(29:14):
when I go outside some more productive black of work
and still get things done and shout out to my
partner's UM nine and Leo. You know. Now, I had
the juice bar at the time and haul them on
two fives, So I used to go there, used to
be about me seven other customers, and it just brought
something between my wife and that juice bar. I brought
so much change. I lost weight, m my skin, my

(29:35):
my eggs, and cleared up my post as with drip left,
my cyanitis left. I stopped carrying around two guns all
the time, Like like your whole life change. Yeah, but
you know, so everything changed, and so it kind of
just a laugh. But but then also it kind of
hit us. You know, it was a time we started
moving to better places and being able to see money more.

(29:58):
We just kind of noticed like what was happening to
our people in the neighborhoods. And we started like doing
our own self education on how to heal ourselves, UM
for family issues, self issues, lady issues, many issues, just
trying to figure out how we didn't have to just
go run to the doctor every time, and how we could,
you know, start incorporating things. And that was pretty much

(30:20):
her idea of just incorporated things in the household UM
to take and just you know, to add to our
nutrients and into our body. So it was kind of
I was getting it from every angle, to be honest
with you, and it just I became a sponge as
you started absorbing and just kind of noticing what was
going on. So tell us about the two businesses that

(30:40):
you all have. Now, what are the purpose? What's the
difference in the two? Okay, well, how ready you was
for that? Anyway? It's so irritating anyway, So Juice for
Life in Pharmacy for Life. Juice for Life his first
and you know now we're on our fifth store. Last
one was just we just opened on Fordham Road about

(31:02):
a couple of weeks ago, So where where are they all?
Brooklyn three and the Bronx too, and the Bronx three,
the Bronx sorry one of Yonkers, Yeah, three and the
Bronx now one in Brooklyn one of Yonkers in our
online store, Pharmacy for Life serves anywhere, yelways in Kentucky.
Somebody y'all sent us a bunch of stuff, so we

(31:24):
wanted to say thank you for that. Oh, you're welcome,
You're welcome, You're welcome. Yeah, We're always here to support,
you know. Pharmacy is our sister company where we sell
you know, supplements. So it's just an extension of the
brand and trying to just get more again, more products,
more awareness and as we learned, we pay it forward,
you know what I mean. So as we learn and
things work for us and he'll heal us, we want

(31:47):
to share the information and helped to heal our culture
because we really need as money for many healing foods
and ailments, you know, things to heal our ailments as possible.
So like I wouldn't take my c moss, I use
a lot of doctors, Savy prop dr savy products, um,
the alkaline exactly all the alkaline products. But it's so

(32:08):
many pills to swallow, so many big pills, and I'm
not I don't like swallowing pills for various reasons, and
so I'm trying to figure out what do I do.
I know people need the sea moss and stuff. Yeah,
you make you do you like peanut butter? I love
peanut butter, all right, So if you love peanut butter,
almond butter, yeah, get you some seymours boil it oatmeal. Yeah,

(32:33):
throwing in some right in um, peanut butter, oatmeal banana shape,
and you won't even taste the seas. Right, you didn't
get all your benefits peanut butter, oat male and banana together. Yeah.
There's always a way to make sure you're getting what
you need. You just gotta be a to creative, you
know what I mean to do it to get it,

(32:54):
to ingest it, because you know it's super important. So
you just have to trick yourself to your body a
little bit. But you're figure it out. But that's an
absolute way to take it. Is definitely attue your smoothie.
Um oh, mail is good, yogurt is good. Just capsules,
you know, just open how many capsules? Does he it's
six it's six capsules of the sea moss. And then

(33:16):
I think and then yeah, it's a lot. And and
so what I did once was trying to open them
and put it in like juice and drink it, but
it was chalky, so I couldn't get it down. You know,
making your own isn't that difficult. You can make your own.
You just boil it dry and let's let it sit
and then boil it and then you just start in
your friends and you scoop it out and whatever you want.

(33:37):
We got to talk through that on another time. And
also with more time on the show, we can actually
educate people on exactly like people don't know, like people
want to eat healthy right, Like we've been eating bad
for just so long and we don't I would taste
buzz are not even used to you know, healthy food,

(33:57):
so it tastes it, don't even taste for feeling through.
So what what what what is? You would you say?
How would you start to you know, approach it slowly
and gradually just change it over. What what I would
suggest is two things. First, if we're talking about sustainability,
that thens you're eating to live right. That means you
want to be healthy, you want to keep good things.

(34:19):
So first start with reading the ingredients. And when you
start to read the ingredients and you see this highly
processed and artificial playors and preservatives, sessure just eliminate that
because that's no that's good for you at all. So
you start there right. Then also have the refrigerator also. Yeah,
then you know it's funny because we wanted to raid

(34:41):
people's friensures. We thought that would be a great show
to raise people. I mean seriously, because people aren't aware
and you know they're not as educated, and I believe
people really want to learn and do well. But the
second aspect is um balance. Balance, So you can eat
certain things, but try to balance it out with some
good things and some healthy thing. So it's like if

(35:04):
you have some go to regular regulars that you make
mac and geese, whatever it is, try to make or
at least have about three or four plant base or
healthy not necessarily versions or some something that you can
go to that's healthy. As a balanced meal. You don't
need to eat a certain way all the time. You know,

(35:25):
animal protein with every meal and dairy and so forth.
So it's about finding a balance too. You can start there. Yeah,
that was perfect. And and then also pick one day
out the week, like pick one day out the week
where you want to start saying, I'm not gonna eat
how I eat. I'm gonna try to eat clean today.
You know, I'm gonna eat such and such. Don't eat

(35:46):
the meat, eat the sides, you know what I mean,
don't use the butter, and use smart balance. Just try
to pick that one day and then that one day,
see if you can do it again next week. And
then if you can hear four times in next day,
next month, trying to switch two days if you can't,
And like you said, it gets back to balancing and
understanding you know your body. It's like it's kind of
taking in the aspect like if we go out to

(36:07):
the club, right and we drink and you it's kind
of like you know, if you drink too much, you
know that next day, that water you have, that that gatorade,
ginger rail, you gotta sweat it out, you some push
up jumping Jack's same. You gotta you gotta apply the
same mentality the food, and then you gotta also apply

(36:29):
information like like like the first thing you said, it's
like half for us, and we don't know. It's because
we're not taking that time to make disinformation importants like
you have to make like if you know, like both
of y'all look very nice to that. You know what
all our clothes come from. You know where all the
drip comes from, and how much of course by the

(36:49):
best drip you you you know, you wash them outside
of your body as much as possible. What about the inside?
What information are you looking up for the inside and
you grab your phone for you know, we're looking up Instagram, Twitter,
fashion stuff called stuff, jewelry stuff. Look what's up with
your heart? Ailments, your body? What's wrong with you? How

(37:11):
you can fix it? Like take time to investigate and
get some information on And that's that's what we are
firm believers in because I think a lot of people
think you gotta do some like like U rule or
some kind of you know like tree Huggle or super
Nerdy or super we just you will get the people

(37:33):
also think you have to have a lot of money
in order to that's not yeah, and that's that's that's
actually not true. Exactly, you're paying more money for me
if when you go to the when you go to
the supermarket. And you if you take the meat products
off your dot, if your or if your list, you're
your bill is gonna drop significantly significant. You're paying for carcuts,

(37:55):
like you're paying essentially for a dead animal, you know
what I'm saying, Like you're paying of your your grocery
is for deadnique. So it's like, once you eliminate that, uh,
it's actually not expensive at all. It's actually super cheap.
It's super cheap. Und how the shop and what the body?

(38:17):
What exactly, doody hopeful. I was about to say, wholefood
by certainly more expensive than shot. Right, But here's another thing, like, see,
this is the thing I started me for saying the
things so much. But this is the the cause for
us being in this health world and not being the
typical health people. If you're listening and you're black and

(38:40):
your brown, and you're paying attention right now, and then
my brothers and sisters just brought up a great question.
And you know, but we don't say that ship about Jordan's.
We don't say that ship about the new I phone.
If you got the newest Jordan's, you've got the newest
night texture, You've got the newest sneakers. You gotta rolly.
You've got an iPhone watch, you wish every game you

(39:00):
got all of that. Don't start complaining about the ship
that's gonna save your life, about the ship you gotta
spend that's gonna save your life. If you ain't complaining
about the ship that you're spending, that ain't gonna save
your life. You understand what I'm saying. So that's some
ship we're do in the community where it's like cool,
like when people tell me, I be I truck some
strap funk out of here with that dog. Lets look

(39:22):
at your sneak this dog. You got the new retro
ships on. It's just seven right, right. You know what
I'm saying that how much the snapback courts? How much?
Of course? Yeah, the real ones? Right, So we don't
hear that expensive ship. You gotta start doing your whole work,
be diligent and give a funk about it about yourself

(39:43):
enough to say, all right, let me spend my money
at least on some ship that's gonna benefit myself. How
the fund is a Gucci man bag. I'm helping when
you when you really understand how much we're targeted and
how much like they using the food literally to target didn't.
Almost becomes a defense mechanism to just be like it's like,

(40:03):
you know, you don't say after you when you're on yours.
It's like a bulletproof vest. They're shooting that. You got
to put that best on defense. You know, the understanding
that that's dope. See. I like the way you break
it down, break it that's what that's what you know,
what it is. That's what we do. The activism right
because a lot of people do they say, they say
activism is something that's so far fetched and it's only

(40:26):
these type of people are supposed to do that. I'm like,
na dog. The same way you want to go to
the club, We go to the club too. We hang out,
we do all the ship you do. We just ain't
gonna watch our people die and we're gonna stay on
the front line to make sure you So that's that's
what we're doing, is evolutionizing everything that I'm an evolution
I tell people I'm not a revolution revolutionary. I'm an

(40:47):
evolutionary because they say it your mother's and grandmother's revolution.
You know, um um civil rights organization. This ship is different.
It's gonna look like the culture like. And that's why
I love y'all. You don't not know. You say we
gotta be no ghur rule and no nerd hugging and
treat Now, I'm from the hood. I do the same
ship y'all do. But I'm just gonna make sure that

(41:07):
I live long enough to be able to to see
my great grandkids. I'm gonna live, I'm gonna eat healthy,
I'm gonna take care of my body. And you can
do it to the same way, from the same culture
we're from. It's because I'm thinking. My song always says,
it's not your grandmother's movement or grandfather's movement, but he
is so in the walking in the light of Reverend

(41:28):
Jesse Jackson in some ways by making up words and
evolution is a new is evolutionary, that's evolutionary. That's this
new word, and that's what Reverend Jackson used to do.
Just well, you just take, you gotta take, Yeah, you
gotta take those the things that you we don't. I
don't discredit none of our ancestors. We stand on their shoulders.
They did things, but we're gonna take what you did

(41:50):
and we're gonna modernize it and make it, make it
flavorful for this culture, so these kids can feel attached
to it, can see it like Okay, it don't look
you know, it don't look so far. Yeah, exactly, they
have to resonate. It has to resonate, you know what
I'm saying that they gotta feel Otherwise you're speaking in
a whole different language. And I want all of this

(42:12):
is attached, like every one of us. Like we were
just talking the other day, I say, like your movement,
you know, um being this movement, trades movement. I live
a mortal technique. It's all whether it has different faces
in different times, it's all part of the same movement.

(42:32):
It's for the same people. Like what we do is
a big part of understanding. You eat it clean and
drink it clean. Has a lot to do well, you
know what our ancestors gave us. But we're just trying
to tell you in a new way, like you know time,
we just we ain't doing nothing new under the sun.
Y'all ain't doing nothing right. We're just doing it in
a new way. Like you're saying, if we're gonna be
like we get back to our roots, because a big

(42:54):
part of you eat and clean and drinking clean and
show you could be calm too and working, so you
could be calm and black man, because I did that
go to do with I wanted to check my temperament
because I can't be one of them, one of them
out head and just keep sucking up everybody, especially right.
You know what I'm saying process work. So you're saying

(43:16):
that if we eat better, what my son eats better,
and there has been a change in him since he
started eat he doesn't eat meat, not not really, very rarely. Yeah,
he only eats sea food. He eats double vegetables. All
of that. Me, I'm struggling, and our team members, some

(43:36):
of us are struggling. We have one that is a
vegan completely, so you know, we do balance it out
and we learn how to eat better. And I think
my anxiety, cause I have I have diagnosed anxiety. And
I do notice that the more water I drink and
the more that I take care of myself, it's like
the temperament gets better. I want to ask a question

(43:57):
that goes a little away from this, you know. You
know ext just passed, you know, so that was a
that was a big loss for just the world, and
you know, and I know how how you all all
you know, I know that's family. Like, how do y'all
feel like when you heard like, how have you been
dealing with the process of um? Well, God blessing first

(44:20):
and foremost all thogs go to heaven. Um were deal
with the process how we deal with We're all processes.
We understand that God's decision is much more powerful and
wiser than ours. We deal with the physical loss, but
we we kind of understand it's a big part of
the health thing too. We understand that. And she never
really dies, you know what I mean. He may be

(44:41):
physically going, but you know he's here. Like we've lost
the child. Obviously people know that. Those who don't know,
we've lost the child. So definitely the way we deal
with losses is understanding. And for me, what's funny is
um from reading my wife's book, she wrote a book
for E three or high it it's given me a
process with understanding that you know, the privilege of losing

(45:06):
sometimes and understanding because it gets you, you know, kind
of get your energy close to God. If you don't
break down, you know, you're either gonna break all the way.
Now I'll get close to guy and find a break open.
You know, I find yourself, find yourself close to guy.
So it's inevitable we're all going to go. We're definitely
gonna see my brother again. That's that's inevitable to see

(45:28):
all I love was on the other side. But we
just we keep it pushing in. Every time we catch
a major loss in the community just wakens us up
to understand we have more of a job to do.
Why we do exactly what we do, and you know,
put tide of hoodie up, pull the boots up, get
back to it. That's right, man, alight the dog man.

(45:49):
I just wanted to say that real quick, you know.
But you know, I love you man. That was one
of the first dudes when I came over to the prisons.
You know, I was like rapping. I'm like, Staules, I
need you to get on this job. He's all right, Mike,
let's do it. He showed up and he did. And
there's not a lot of people, you know, it's it's
very few or things. I think the rough ride of
camp just in general, is one of the most organic

(46:12):
camps that I've ever been around in the world. Like
you know what I'm saying, everybody is who they say
they is in their camp from the beginning inception. When
I came into this, they embraced me, always shown me love.
So you know, I just want to say that you
know I love you, brother, and you know I love you.
That's right, man. So watching you and your wife just
flourish and moving this space and continue to just grow

(46:33):
and evolve and package health, you know, I would not
this is this ain't something that you would thought Styles do.
Like people like Mice. I would have never thought that
she was gonna be it civil rights. Nobody would have
thought that Styles was gonna be someone that was a
health and the Styles was ready whatever, Like listen to me,
I was. I've been in the camp and I've been
in whenever something was happening. Styles was the first one

(46:56):
like he was like what what happened? What were doing?
Listen and I'm like ready always. You know what I'm saying.
So when you see the evolution of them, man, it's
it's a salute. You just got to salute them in
and congratulate you. Man. But this is what this is
a serious wall. Like we said, it's not just about health,
It's about you know, because I want everybody who's tuned
into us right now to understand this is not just

(47:17):
a healthy way of my people. This is some real
ship like they have not. You canna look at the numbers,
but look at the numbers. We ain't lying the numbers
to tell you the truth. Think about your family. And
when I look at the numbers, think about your family.
Think about your aunt with high blood pressure, diabetes, heart problems,
stroke out. You know, they just think about it though.

(47:37):
And you know, we used to being on this ship
all day and you know, talk about popular ship and
what's living with fly and that's cool. We're gonna do that.
We're gonna continue to do that. We love nice ship
over here. We really do like nice ship. So but
at the end of the day, we gotta take care
of our own. We gotta take care of our people,
and we got to understand that this ship is a war.

(47:57):
This ain't just get healthy look good to throw some
nice clothes on so Jews self herds and oils running
and the thing, you know, we exactly what's happening, and
we're playing our part in the world. If I was
the one, y'all, it's the same ship as if we
were standing on the block. I say, yo home, they're
gonna spend that You spend that corner, they're dumping out.

(48:18):
You ain't got family over there, You ain't got no
personal problems, you ain't got no investor. You want to
avoid there. We ain't doing that with the food and
the miseducation though, And that's where we're here to make
sure it happens. We're gonna stop spending that block. We're
gonna avoid that block. Well, thank y'all so much for
being with us today. Just listening to you, it just
brings me to all the people that died um in

(48:40):
the black community, particularly throughout this pandemic with COVID nineteen,
and most of them the issue was heart disease and
just pre existing health conditions asthma, things that we know
healthy living can at least help with. Not saying that
you're going to be a hundred percent heell tomorrow, but
you certainly could be in a better situations. So styles

(49:01):
p and Aja side Awa when that's such a beautiful
name to peoful people. Thank y'all so much for being
with us, and we want you to come back and
help educate. We're want we want to promote your products
on the show. So we're definitely gonna connect with you
all and make sure that we get you said, it's

(49:21):
a war man, and our people need to make sure
that they prepared. Yea god lovelut its alut. Before we
go to the next segment and have our special guests join,
we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors, so
our change Maker segment today. Um, you know, and since

(49:45):
we're keeping with this theme of healthy living, sustainable living,
I think it's so important mice for us to really
start trying to help shift the minds of our people
to more sustainable living choices. And also standing that after
this pandemic, we cannot depend on the government and you know,

(50:06):
the larger society to protect us. We have to learn
how to protect ourselves and how to make sure that
our communities are set up in ways that we can
survive when things get bad. Famine because there was actual
like food deserts for real, that was stuff really happening
during this pandemic where people couldn't get the things they needed.
But also um, in terms of sustainable living, we have

(50:28):
someone today, a change maker, an incredible young man who's
actually from Ethiopia. UM. And you know, I think one
of the other things that we learned is that because
the pandemic impacted us all over the world, we need
to share ideas with black people and other people from
around the world so that we can find the best
tips for us even here in America. And so Jo

(50:50):
Dahi Bizabi Uh is an environmental expert who lives in Ethiopia.
He has he's the host of a show that I've
been watching. Its actually really really cool called Influencer Uh.
And you know he's funny. So we're about to get
somebody who can, who can, who can help retrain us

(51:11):
and make us laugh all at the same time. Thank
you so much for being with us, Joe Dari, thank you,
Thank you very much. The pleasures all mine. Thank you
for the invitation. So tell us what you do, tell
us because you listen, I got five jobs down here
for you. You got all this stuff we need. What exactly,

(51:31):
UM do you do? And and and I know you're
you're using your expertise on your show to talk about
these things, But drill down for us and let us
know where you are and how your knowledge base can
help us with sustainable living here in the US. So
H once again, thank you very much. It's a great
honor to discuss about this. I mean, this is basically

(51:53):
what I do all the time. Um. So in my background,
I'm an applied biologist. I grew up in the city, born,
e raised. I've always wanted to work in UM something
that could um potentially impact in regards to nature and sustainability.
But I've I haven't seen it from any other aspect
but the scientifical aspect of it. So growing up being

(52:17):
called the trash mobile trash can because I used to
carry a lot of trash in my bag or in
my pocket because my friends threw away their trash in
my pocket. Actually, most of the time, I was UM
somehow that geek with a lot of UM understanding about

(52:38):
environmental sustainability and always left about it, even chilling with
my friends, Uh fun facts that I've found out about
the ocean or or different things. So I was always
that person that asked about a lot of questions about
environmental sustainability and it pushed me into applied biology. So

(53:00):
being an applied biologist showed me the scientifical aspect of it,
but not the rest, you know. So there's the negotiation aspect,
the business aspect of it, so many, so many other
UM sectors out there that are working on environmental protection,
but we still do not understand it. So one thing

(53:23):
left to another, me speaking about me, put putting out
those vibes about environmental sustainability. People started pulling me in
into projects and youth led organizations such as Youth Network,
Youth Negotiation on Climate Uge Convention green HICH, a concept
which I helped build UM in so many ways, and

(53:46):
I've had the chance to to also in turn in
the Ministry of Environment in our country and for our
UM for our for our City at Saba City, Brazilist
Project Office, which actually works on how to make our
city as resident as possible. So throughout my college years,

(54:07):
I've been volunteering here and there too to come up
with solutions on how we could potentially solve this issue.
But I still didn't see an impactful organization or network
UM that are working on environmental sustainability from a wholesome aspect.
So that's how um UM. I wanted to create a

(54:30):
platform where people could come in and have their own
perspectives in regards to environment and sustainability and put in
there a small contribution to the bigger costs that we
are trying to do because I believe art could speak
about environment protection just as UM the scientists could. So

(54:53):
we're trying to create a platform for influencers with an E.
He represents the environment obviously, or Ethiopia, education and entertainment
all wrapped up together. So UM that is the word
that we were trying to use, and it started off
with Judah's influence at first. It still is going. We're

(55:14):
still trying to bring in UM friends from different parts
of the world and in Ethiopia that are working on
environment sustainability and trying to revitalize the younger generation in
our country UM into working on environmental systemability. M hm.
So on your show, you have a lot of interesting
topics and one of them is climate anxiety. How does

(55:39):
climate change your alter anxiety? You guys really did your assignments?
Uh So, I mean mental wellness and and every aspect
of it is a huge choose priority and I wish
in everybody's life. And I haven't had that much of

(56:02):
an issue with any mental disorder, thank god, for so
many years of my life. But I've always had that
preservation that that it's that that um um um sense
of um not doing anything, not contributing anything to the cause.
You know, Um you hear. I don't even watch much

(56:27):
of the news anymore in regards to the environment of
protection because it's just it takes me to places that
I don't want to go. So I usually focus on
new innovations that are working for the environment of protection. UM,
new ways, new science, that that is a good news
for our world, because that actually drives me. But when

(56:51):
I hear um small islands getting eaten up by the ocean, um,
this very hard um scenes from the polar bears in
the in the northern part. Also in Ethiopia. While you
were just discussing the desert locusts has been infesting in

(57:12):
our country. Um, not only on our country, but in
the Horn of Africa because of the winds, the climates
change pushed the desert locusts in this area and made
it stay here because usually just travels into the desert
and they just die out and they're usually the cycle

(57:32):
goes on in a small manner. But now because they're
not able to to to be taken by the wind
which they usually route is, they stayed and almost defastly
half of more than half of our countries food. Um um. Yeah.
So anyways, I've always had that reservation. I'm like, I'm

(57:57):
not I'm still not doing anything for the cause I
need to do more um uh. And it's just it's
something that I'm still trying struggling with. And Apple, Yeah,
I think I totally understand what you mean, because I
think for for all of us, it's like, we know,
we see the weather changing. We see when it's supposed

(58:18):
to be cold, it's hot, and I mean really hot
days are changing so quickly. Then all of a sudden,
a snowstorm comes and it's something that is like a
blizzard from pre like years and years and years ago.
Like there's so many things that's changing, and and like
even the season that we're in right now, the pollen

(58:39):
and the you know, the allergy season is so strong,
so we know something is happening. But then we noticed
that the climate change conversation is so political. So you
have you know, Republicans who want to ignore it, and
then you have Democrats that want to try to do
something about it. And then you know, and it starts
getting into money and so it us create a level

(59:01):
of of anxiety where even people like me, I have
anxiety to the point where I'm going to actually worry
about it. But somebody like my song is gonna be
like I'm just gonna eat right, my my business. We're
just gonna keep it moving, you know what I mean.
But it does create in all of us attention of
like if we know that the country like that, what
is they they say it's melting, We're melting? Is that

(59:23):
what we're okay? So if we're melting, then what are
we gonna do? Like what are we going to do?
And who knows? And then you have people telling you
to put solar panels over your home. It's a lot
of information to take in, especially when we've been taught
none of it from childhood. So that I mean not
to cut cut you off, but that is basically what

(59:46):
we're trying to do, trying to dial down the conversation
that the chatter which we see on the TV screens
or different places reach makes the problem even more bigger,
and to make the smallest change as much as possible
so that we could have the biggest impact at some point,

(01:00:08):
because um, I don't know if you guys have seen
the videos, but Some of the videos are so simple
where we just rethink of what we do, for example,
just not using your straw or reusing your clothes for
for a bag, maybe just reusing up cycling or just refusing,

(01:00:30):
just not not doing things that you're you're not supposed
to do. Walking into the distances, just small distances which
you can walk to. UM. There are so many other
aspects of it which you could bring to. You could
bring in the health aspect, the business aspect, the political aspect,
from all all sources of environmental arena and UM we

(01:00:54):
can all win at the same time. So that's that's
basically what we're trying to do. Also from the younger
John erration, we're trying to work with the different high
schools in our country about environmental sustainability. So we hope
we could make a better change even and influence the
rest of the world, influence with the with the E

(01:01:15):
so we we we appreciate you man. And environmental education
is very important. Man. A lot of us don't focus
on it because somehow we feel like it's just somewhere
over there. A lot of people don't you know, they
don't see it until it actually hits home. You know,
I don't know exactly what you deal with in Ethiopia.
I don't know that you know how you actually with

(01:01:35):
the environmental changes are you're dealing with there, But I
see them here in America and I'm watching how the
weather is changing. I'm watching how you know, how plants
are dying, how water is not as healthy as a
lot of things that we're dealing with. You know. So
I think the work that you're doing is commendable and
we appreciate you. You know, where can when they find you?

(01:01:56):
Where can they find your show? Where can they find you?
You know, if they want to be more educated about
what's going on? Thank you, Thank you once again. It's
such a huge honor to be invited to this show.
My name is jodas Um, it's my personal handle is Joda.
Simple as that. But if you want to follow what

(01:02:20):
we have been doing so far as Joda's influence, it's
just like that Joda influence within E with no Space
and now Influencers Network is officially going to be launched. Um,
we're working on our websites, but the social media accounts
are all up. Influencers next and eating Okay, Well, we

(01:02:41):
appreciate you. Man, it sounds dope. Continue to do the
work man. We're supporting you. Hopefully some people will see
this and say, look, we need to fight for our environment. Man,
we need environmental justice. You know your activism is definitely
appreciated and respected. Brother, So maker than you appreciate h
thank you, thank you, have a beautiful time. So how

(01:03:06):
do you pronounce your brother's name again? Okay? Why would
you do that to me? But I think it's I'm
gonna say j B. I'm gonna call him JB because
I think j B his name is like you gotta,
we're gonna you can see, it's gonna be on the screen.
I'm not. And for those people who are listening who
can't see it, let me read it to you properly.

(01:03:28):
I'm going to it's I believe it's Joe Dahi bizabi
but JB. But I want to spell it properly. It's
j O d A h I B e z a
b I H j O d A h I no

(01:03:51):
b e z a b I H. That's important because
people who are listening who want to go find him online,
they can't see the screen. Somebody, you know our you
know our j B. No but I'm saying, but he
gave you the heart. No, but on I heart. Yeah,
you only hear I get it, and so you might.

(01:04:12):
You might be listening and then you need this spelling.
But he said it during it, but he didn't read
his name. He told you, he told you, But how
are you going to spell it? What I'm gonna say
is this, Joe JB had a hell of the interview.
You talked about environmental justice and all the things we need.
So it was a dope interview. Follow him, Jello whole platform.

(01:04:39):
She she spelled this, so you just follow him. But know,
but he's talking about something that's really so serious and
so many of our people. It still goes over. It
goes over your head, and it goes over my head,
goes over you us. Like I'm mad they don't have
plastic bags at the grocery store. That's you know why
I want my plastic bags from the grocery store. But
be really honest, this is like they got plastic bags.
Sometimes it depends on what you're you go to it.

(01:05:00):
I go to Walmart. Walmart and is supposed to have
no plastic that's supposed to be brown paper bags. Well,
I like my plastic bags. You know why because I'm
a plastic bag hoarder. So I put I have another.
But you know all black households, I don't know, maybe
every household, but definitely where you just put a little
you just keep stacking them in there. So I have

(01:05:22):
this place and not just keep because every time I
got to go some like in my suitcase. You know,
everybody knows. Everybody who traveled with me, travels with me knows.
I have everything in my suitcase. I have the wipes, this,
the spray, the arm and I was doing this before
and I got gloves. So I have to put everything

(01:05:42):
in a plastic bag because I want to keep things
separated from one another. And so because if you touches,
then the whole purpose of trying to bring things and
make your house and your hotel room and stuff clean
the germs is such a so I need I need
plastic bags. Well, if you have to buy zip lock bags,
that's too expensive. So I need the plastic bags from

(01:06:05):
the grocery shopping so I could use them, and then
I'm the person. This is one thing y'all don't know
about me. But I actually saved the bag, like after
I used them to travel. I keep, let's bring them
all back home. This is a lot about a classic bag.
This is a whole we could do a whole everie
about plastic Classic, but that's actually not good for the environment.

(01:06:30):
The environment. Speaking of the environment, it brings me to
my I don't get it, you know, since we're talking
about the environment and we're talking about germs and packages, eating, eating, writing,
all these things. COVID. Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
You argue about this, we do about it, but I'm
guaranteeing you that you're not going to really today. I

(01:06:50):
just want to know this, Right, we travel to Atlanta.
We traveled to Atlanta. Right, we traveled to Atlanta. We
traveled to my AMBI said, And we travel to different
states all the time, and I just want to know,
why does it seem like COVID is affecting Atlanta? Aff

(01:07:13):
I mean, it doesn't feel like COVID is affecting Atlanta
at all. But I'm just saying, when you walk, when
you go to Atlanta, you don't think COVID has existed.
If you wasn't watching the news and all that and
you went to Atlanta, you wouldn't think we as independent well,
our producer Janice Rodriguez just said that the Bronx seemed
like they don't have COVID either, But the Bronx always

(01:07:35):
was like that anyway. But I'm just trying to figure
out there are a lot of places, but just to
be honest, you know, just serious, there are a lot
of places that have been open, right and you don't
see this drastic you know, spike in the cases and
the depths in a lot of these places. And then
place is true, what do you mean it's not properly

(01:07:57):
being reported. Georgia's specific lead the governor was like, we
ain't about to be putting out numbers all the time.
But if you talk to Keisha lance Bottom's office, the
mayor's office, She's like, COVID is spiking crazy. Now. I
don't know if people are dying the way they did
in New York, but the difference with New York in
a place like Georgia is the fresh air, Like your

(01:08:19):
point had always been, which I kind of agree with
the context of, like what you're saying, not the specifics,
but the context I get it is that you can't
have people locked in, you know, everybody in the house
locked in because then the germs are just passing around, right,

(01:08:39):
So people do need fresh air. And there was a
point when they were like making you feel like you
couldn't even go to the park and walk, and that
wasn't good. So I think in Georgia, with the fresh
air and people being they don't live the way we lived.
The projects, the tenement buildings, the the co ops, the condos.
We live on top from one another. We share the

(01:09:01):
same elevator, buttons, we open in the same doors, so
we spread things different in certain places. That's what I think.
I don't in Atlanta. See, this is what I'm trying
to say. I hear what you're saying. In Atlanta, it's
not what That's what I'm trying to tell you. You You
You can walk into the regular just lounge and it's
a million people, they touching everything, they giving you a pound,

(01:09:23):
and it's the same people every time you go. It
ain't like none of them, That's what I'm saying. Ain'tybody
come back like you're such and such as man sick.
We gotta do this. That's the same. Don't see the
local news, but it's not I'm not talking about the
local news. I'm talking about the local people. I see
the local people. My man's in them own a lot
of restaurants, they own clubs, and they did every week.

(01:09:47):
Every time you go there, the spot is open, it's
the same people they got, They're giving handshakes, they love it.
It ain't no COVID there is what I think should
So I'm trying to figure out. I don't get how
COVID is some places where it ain't nobody going outside
with this place. It ain't where everybody is going on,
So like I need to understand it's playing to me

(01:10:09):
how this is happening. I really just don't get it.
I still think that it has a lot to do
with space and air and all of that. I don't know.
Maybe they built up her immunity faster. I really don't know.
But what I do know is that we have a
responsibility on this show to properly educate people. And we've
been saying for over a year that we were going

(01:10:30):
to find COVID experts and bring them on to talk.
Because now every day but they answer that anything. They
just they say, it's very strange, No, that we're not
true what they don't You're not sure of all the details,
but so that means you're not really an expert. If

(01:10:51):
you're not sure of the details. Can you be sure
about a pandemic that just started that you never even
this is the first time you got. You be an expert.
You are an ex spur at that type of medicine.
We do not We do not have a COVID experts.
There's no such thing. That's not true because COVID has
been around forever, coronavirus has been around. I'm not I'm

(01:11:14):
talking about COVID nating. There's no COVID nazing because there
has been along the way. All these experts have made
wrong steps. They told us this, and sometimes it's wrong. Okay,
but that's you're not more about virus. They know more
about viruses. Maybe they do, and maybe they don't. Who knows,

(01:11:34):
because they're not an expert. Because some of our experts,
some of our brothers who are online right, some of
our own brothers nineteen Keys, Um Reason Islam and others,
they feel that they have some expert knowledge about things
we should and should not be doing. So we can't
take away. We can't say there are no experts. I

(01:11:55):
think they're different experts. There's a different expert. There's no
expert COVID ninteen. That's just the bottom line. Nobody knows
what the COVID nineteen shows up. When some people say
they have it, they never got a call if they
had nothing. And some people and some black doctors that
know some things, and I think they do because it's

(01:12:16):
no COVID nineteen expert. Because if there was an expert,
they will be able to give you every Okay, this
is this this. Nobody is able to give you a
full scope of what COVID nineteen. We have a responsibility
on street politicians to properly educate people, but we can't
educate expert. A very good question on the table, why

(01:12:38):
is it? Because you're right in Georgia, I've been obviously
I see them even when they get called. But my
family members that had it, that live in Georgia, they
were very, very sick, very sick. One of my cousins,
we weren't sure right, No. Two. I had two cousins
that one of them was on her deathbed and the
other one was very sick. But now her daughter of them,

(01:13:00):
the one that was on her deathbed, Raven, her daughter
was around her and she never has had any real
heavy like experience, like she never I don't even think
she knows if she has anybody. I don't think she
knows if she ever had COVID at all. And she
was around her mother while she was sick. So it's
different things for different people. I don't know the answers,
but I do know that, especially with this conversation around

(01:13:22):
the vaccine, that we should make because one of the
things that bothers me about the vaccine that I'm I'm
dealing with right like I want my mother to be saved.
I want to be safe. I want to help the society.
I want us all to be a part of the
society that you know, we work together, we make sure
we vaccinated, we take care of ourselves. But I'm not
at I don't get the concept. No, well, I do

(01:13:46):
get the concept of just you know, understand, But look,
vaccine is an individual choice. It's not because your physical anatomy,
right is un like anybody else's physical anatomy. So the
way a vaccine will react in your body, even if
it actually helps you, or in how long it actually lasts,

(01:14:09):
is different for each and everything. And I understand that.
Understanding that reality, it should be your individual choice. If
I have COVID. If I've had COVID and it doesn't
affect me in the same manner, this is what I'm
nothing because the point is if you are getting it
and able to spread it in the same way, that's

(01:14:31):
where the dangers are. But the reason that means that
the individuals who who who feel like able to spread
it in the same way. What do you mean you
don't know? If we don't know if you come into contact, Listen,
First of all, I am not advocating for you, but exactly,
And that's important because I don't want people to get

(01:14:53):
the impression that I'm saying everybody needs to go out
and take the vaccine because I have not, but I
have family members who have, and I've also assisted elderly
people and other individuals to get it because they called
me saying I need access. How do I get it? Right?
But I also believe, and this is what I have.
My research has said that if a vaccine is going
to be highly affected, it's going to be effective because

(01:15:16):
the masses have taken it. So that we can bring
this explain to me. I'm saying that vaccines are not
the way I've been told the way I have what
I have studied and heard is that if you take
a vaccine that actually works right, that doesn't have all
the implications that we've been talking about. You take a

(01:15:36):
vaccine that actually works, the more people that takes take
the vaccine, it protects the entire population or society in general.
That's what I've been told. But what I'm trying to
get to but that's the same process of her immunity without.
All I'm trying to say is that one of the

(01:15:57):
things that has really bothered me is the fact that
too many social media networks and different entities seem to
be silencing the voices of those who are raising very
serious issues and concerns with the vaccine. That bothers me
because I've seen throughout history where we have been prevented

(01:16:19):
from getting knowledge that we need about important things. And
I think that, um everybody, there should be mass debate
and dialogue about the vaccine, and instead of silencing the
voices of those who are concerned or those who even
feel we shouldn't be taking it, what should happen is
that there be engagement. Because people like a reason Islam

(01:16:41):
and others like that they have a following of people
who listen to them, and so when you silence them
or attempt to silence them, what happens is it causes
more confusion. Rather than bringing someone like him to the
table to sit down and say, let's go line for line,
there should be people to your point, experts that I
able to sit down and debate word for word. You

(01:17:03):
say that it will cause this problem. Here's my the counterbalance,
and then give some of us the opportunity to listen
to that and say, Okay, I think that I'm going
to take the vaccine because I feel comfortable that there's
been enough information given, or I'm not gonna take it
because I I agree with others who are against it.
But right now I feel like the disinformation that exists

(01:17:24):
just by the fact that we don't have enough information
is very dangerous. That's my opinion. So I wasn't saying take,
don't take the take. I was just saying that I
think the way the vaccines are supposed to work is
that the more people who participate, the better it is
for society overall. But I also feel very concerned and

(01:17:45):
unnerving or I feel nervous about it. My press. You know,
my point of view. You know, it just differs. I
just believe that as individuals, when you take the individual
vaccine is supposed to protect you. Right, If you made
a decision that you don't want to get you know,

(01:18:07):
you don't want to catch COVID, your your immune system
is not strong enough, you don't know how it's gonna
affect you. You don't want and you made a conscious
decision that this is something that you're willing to risk,
whether it goes along with your molecular structure, whether it's
gonna affect you. If you made that kinju decision, that
that's how you feel as an individual, I believe you
should do that. Right. I also believe that as an individual,

(01:18:28):
if you believe that you've done everything health wise in
which you're eating properly, your immune system is strong, you're
doing all these things, and you believe that, Okay, I'm
healthy enough that I can sustain. I don't want to
put a chemical with my body that I don't know
how my body is gonna react to. Right, I think
you should be able to have that choice as an individual,
And I don't think that you should be pressured to

(01:18:49):
believe that if you don't want to take a vaccine,
that you're not doing the global world of justice right.
Because they also said when they when they talked about
herd immunity heard him. Unity was something that they said,
well developed without a vaccine, did it didn't? It didn't.
In fact, the in the vaccine, they said herd immunity
is when you actually enough people get it and then
they become immune. People start to become immune around being

(01:19:12):
around each other because it starts to the body starts
to adjust. And that's why I say that we need
I think this show should be a platform because we
nobody tells us that who we can have on this show.
I think this show should be a place where we
have people who are on both sides of these issues
to come and talk without them being either side being silence,

(01:19:34):
because it's important that our communities be educated about the
whole picture, not just the person that they love and
listen to. That's cool, but there's more to learning than
just listening to one aspect of any dialogue. Okay, well
that's my opinion. With that said, we've come to another
the end of another beautiful show. That's the number one podcast,

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(01:20:17):
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(01:20:38):
joining politicians. Politicians. My man JB was good. Know what
you're talking about over there in Ethiopian JB. I don't
know his name. That's how we owed it. That's how
we are, that's something, that's how we all need. Wow.