“Never Too Late” Guest Ronne Brown and Changemaker Jamila T Davis

This episode Tamika D. Mallory and Mysonne join together once again, and this time they discuss the challenges of starting over or doing something new. Moreover they had guests and friends to the room Ronne Brown and Jamila T. Davis, who join in on the topic and also discuss their experiences stepping into something new and overcoming generational fears. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's goodie, everybody. I'm to mak A D. Mallory and
I'm your boy general and we are your hosts of
street Politicians, the place where the politics meet. We've got
an action pack show today, lots of information, things you
need to know, places you need to go, people you
need to see. Let's talk add that on the show.

(00:30):
Yeah yeah, but there's a lot happening in our show
this week. And first of all, let's just start off
by thanking all of you. Thank you so much. It's
in our minds. We're gonna be there, but we're speaking
it into existing time, getting calls some folks that I
know you've been saying the same, um some who My

(00:51):
sister Sharon, she critiques every week. We had a hair,
wasn't in place, we didn't say the right things. But
then she'll be like, but overall it was good it
and she watches it every week. So if the show doesn't,
it's not up on any platform on time. Sharon Denise Mallory,
she knows it. She ain't gonna play about this. She
does not play. She definitely played about her, my son

(01:12):
and her to me because and I know for you
people have been saying they want to see more topics
about what's happening like in the streets. You know, we're
gonna I'm gonna work. We're working on some streets things.
We're working on some music. You know, I want to
bring like conscious rappers that are dope, that have good music.
Like we we're working on some things that we want incorporate.
The guy's name from Cleveland. I love, oh my boy,

(01:35):
Connie son Man. Please just get him on. You know,
he's one of the dopest artists, like the dopest artists
in the game, and he's underground. We're about to be
working on a project together, So shout up to Connie
son from Cleveland. We're gonna get We're gonna get him
in our artist spotlight. You know, we want all artists
right because there's this false, false narrator there. You go.

(01:57):
I knew it was a narrative. I just want to
make sure I said right, false narrative of that if
you're not industry, and you're not you know, in the
commercial music industry, that somehow you're feeling and there's a
lot of musicians that are underground that have not had
commercial success, that have an impact on so many lives,
so we want to be able to highlight those give platform.

(02:18):
That's what's up. But you know, again, we're grateful because
I've been hearing from people who are like you know,
I'm listening to the show every week. I see the
growth we are trying to grow. We started out, I know,
for me, I was nervous, probably why that's why I procrastinated,
if you will, with doing the show for so long.
I knew it was something that I wanted to do

(02:38):
with this podcast, and thank god, we have a team
that kept pulling us along. And you kept talking crazy
to me, telling me that I was playing myself for
not jumping in head first, um, you know, into the
podcast space. But over time I learned that if you
don't tell your stories, other people will tell it for you.
And we really did need to have a space where

(03:00):
we could talk about our issues, talk about v issues,
and allow folks to come and bring information to our audience.
It doesn't matter to me, which it does, but it doesn't.
But it does, But it doesn't if there's five hundred
people that are listening in those five hundred people need
information that they may only be looking for from us,

(03:22):
and they're gonna give it to and and that's exactly right.
In fact, they five hundred people can reach millions because
people talk to folks and their families, their homes, their
jobs there, you know, their communities. And so I'm proud
of us of what we are continued to do with
street politicians and how it's growing. And I do believe
it's going to be number one, number one. Shout out

(03:47):
to the Black Effect Network and I heart Radio and
our women TV for TV cat triggering the whole team,
betune the tags. Family first for me. Man, it's the
family first for me. I hear that. I hear that.
So I was thinking thinking, because you know, the last
few weeks I've been trying to have I've eased up

(04:08):
a lot on socials and just again, as I said,
reflecting and thinking and what have you, what have you?
And it's okay. It happens to each and every one
of us. And if it doesn't, if you don't take
time to reflect on everything. You know, someone said to
me the other day like, wow, you know, uh you
you you go through so much and and I know

(04:30):
you must be beat down and whatever, and then we
do get beat down sometimes. But I I had a
different response, and I'm so proud of my own growth
and maturity mice because I said to the young ladies
that you know, it's funny that for the first time
in my life, I'm actually grateful to God for even
the trials and tribulations, because I've already seen over time

(04:53):
how every single time that I go through something, it's
really just the next level comments right, like and that,
and that's been every single solitary time. And the thing
about it is that I have learned to trust God
so much that I know that He's going to do

(05:14):
the same thing this time that he did the last time,
at least the same right that he did the last time.
So it's a space where but but the only problem
is that so many of us lack the willingness to
sit still and obedience, right, we lack it. And I
and sometimes I'm disobedient. I think when I'm disobedient, that's

(05:35):
when all kinds of anxiety and troubles get into me
because I'm not following what I know is right. I
worried too much about trying to please everybody, because you know,
that's my that's my daily mission is how can I
please the world that no so but I was thinking.
I was as I was sitting and I'm like, man,
I just read people things and I listened to stuff,

(05:56):
people calling me. They're my friends and my family. They'd
be like, oh, you know what happened? They said and
this and that, And I said, you know what, are
you gullible or dumb? If you hear something from a
source that you don't know that you can't trust, you
don't know if you can trust them, and then you
go and spread it as fact, That's that's that's that's

(06:19):
so deep, right because I had this this problem. Right,
So you know, I'm used to being attacked on Instagram,
being called or type of names and people there's a
new thing where people get their whole YouTube pages started
or for me and you like, they are people who
have gained three hundred to four hundred thousand followers just

(06:39):
talking bad about me and you nothing else. But they
don't have anything else to talk over thirty forty But
you get paid for that, right, they get paid for
So I'm just saying but on YouTube, but I'm not.
I don't know how to navigate these too it all,
but you get paid, So you're making money off of
talk and about somebody else and using people's names that

(07:02):
you don't really know and really have had very little
bit of conversation. Found somewhat like what they say we do.
But I'm glad that they're able to. If if my
life can provide food on your table, use it. However,
union so the issue. So I'm not mad at that,
but it became an issue when it's somebody that I've
known for years, Right, when you have a twenty plus

(07:24):
year relationship what you think is a friendship, and they
go to Instagram and they go to YouTube, you know,
they start a podcast and they utilize your name and
start colling you out your name, So I coined you frauds.
But maybe they just think you know that. But that's
what I'm trying to say, right, It's it just only
exposes the truth because I was having this, We were

(07:46):
just having this conversation a minute ago when you decided
that somebody that you never heard of, right, said something
negative about me, and you know me, you got my
phone number. You didn't call and say, hey, Mike, somebody
just said something. This is stirred me. The true just
getting my side of the story, even if you don't
agree or believe the you know, the grace that you

(08:06):
should give somebody that you know is the acts and say, hey,
is this true? That didn't happen, right, So I was
so taken back. And what happened was people started jumping
on that train like, yeah, you're right, I'm glad you're saying.
So it's and that's what it is. Is that like
I said, you know, we said, you know, we've accidentally
posted things that we didn't fact check and had to say, oh,

(08:29):
you know what we made. But the reason why we
posted those things because they already supported what we felt
from the beginning. Right. We would never just jump to
post something about something that we already didn't believe, right.
So what happened is you realized that after twenty years,
this person always felt this way about you, right, and
they just needed something to to give them the energy

(08:51):
and give them reason. They didn't need no facts, They
didn't die forbid you ever make a mistake that you
better be perfect, man, you better be perfectly okay, people
to look he he made a mistake. Look, he said
the and he put a Y instead of the He said,

(09:12):
I you know this God, and that's what that I
think I mean, I don't know. It's like I guess,
there's always been gossip, There's always been these things. But
I do think that we all have to be responsible
for more research. And I certainly have been challenged and
checked a number of times where I ran to support

(09:33):
something or I shared some information and I was wrong,
you know, And so when I say are you gullible
or down my guests in those instances, I was being
a little bit more gullible. But it's a little bit
of both. Yeah, it's both man and it's it's biased.
Like I just said, it's not it's both bias because
when you post anything on your page, it supports a

(09:55):
notion that you have. You you would never post anything
that goes disaccording to what you already believe without doing
fact checks, because if you see something, you're gonna be like,
where are they said this? Let me check? Because let
me check? Because I don't really believe that anyway. You
will do some research. You're gonna google, You're gonna go to,
you know, places that you know the information is fact
and if you don't see it on none of these

(10:16):
places where you know that they give factual information, then
you're not gonna post it. You're not gonna support it,
you know. So when people decide that just merely a
person on Instagram that you never met, a person on
YouTube that you never met, can say something that you
cannot back up with evidence. They ain't got no receipts,

(10:38):
they ain't got no facts, they don't have You can't
fact check nothing they said, and you take it at
face value. You have to ask yourself, are you okay?
So okay, let's let's look at it from a different perspective.
So I I heard, I know, uh, miss Laura, and
Miss Laura doesn't like or trust certain people, and so

(11:01):
she talks about them all the time. And I actually
like how she speaks. I like the things that she says.
She seems to be authentic to me, and she's saying
something and I believe that maybe what Miss Laura is
saying it is true. Right, So what's the next step?
Because if I'm only hearing from Miss Laura and she's
giving saying all these things and making it sound really,

(11:22):
really good, do I therefore have a responsibility to go
to the other side of the equation, especially when it's
about serious business, and say, hey, this is what I've heard.
What do you have to say about it. And it's
a tricky thing because we're most people are not inclined

(11:44):
to talk to folks who come at them a certain
way one and two. People who seemingly are they already
believe it and they really are just trying to antagonize you.
But I think that when people come to you, you
genuinely trying to understand, do we therefore have a responsibility

(12:05):
They have a responsibility to ask you, and do you
have a responsibility to answer? Well, you know what it is.
I think it's um subjective, right. I think if somebody
comes to you who you value, and you believe that
they come with authentic energy and they really want to
inquire and they want you to give them an answer
because they've heard something else, that's nothing wrong with that. Now.

(12:26):
I have no problem. That's why you like you go.
But no, I have no problem with engaging people because
these are people who follow you on these platforms. These
are people that either believe in you their fans system degree.
And even a hater is a misguided fan, right, So
sometimes you got to educate a hater because I've turned
haters into fans. I've heard I've turned people it was like, ya,

(12:47):
I didn't like you at first I thought this, and
then I started listening to you, and then I realized
that you was the truth. So I understand that happens.
So you have to make a determination based on how
the person addresses you about the information, because say such
said this, I know that ain't true? Man? Is it true?
Give me some information, and you have to make a determination.
Do I believe that this person is worth me given

(13:09):
you know, the information, or explaining something to do our mind?
Or am I okay with that person believing whatever? They're here?
You know? And I think us as leaders and were
having people following us. I think the world deserves certain explanations,
especially when it's something that you know goes in conflict
to what it is that we say that we represent. Right,

(13:30):
So if if the other person can't present receipts and
it's just left on phase value and we don't give
them anything to combat the information, then we can't be
mad if that's what they believe in, right, especially if
they're looking for something to combat the information. If you
just leave it out there and you said, I'm not
going to even respond and there's nothing to even and

(13:51):
that's true, because I I contemplated recently whether or not
I should respond to false allegations against me, and I
decided that one, especially when it's connected to us organizationally
and our our business every day, that it's not a
good idea to have, or that it doesn't benefit us

(14:11):
to have one side of a story in the media,
because people google things, and when they google your name,
these things come up, and there needs to actually be
a response so that folks can see the balance and
make a determination of what it is that they believe.
And there is of course for some people will say, well,
you know, the people who are with you are with you,
but you have new people every day who are trying

(14:33):
to get to know you, and they get to know
you based upon your profile, based upon things they read,
things that they hear. So it's always important for me
that on certain issues, especially when they're very serious allegations
or serious conversations, to make a statement that allows people
to find where you, where your voice is, and then
again make their own determinations. And I think, I think

(14:55):
for us is important because we've always been vocal. Yah
is the act. We've always been vocal. We always use
our platforms, we always talk about things that we believe
in don't believe in, and we've been vocal. So when
somebody attacks you with things that are vital and you
become silent, then it gives ever had I'm always talking,

(15:16):
so you know, I guess that's what that is. That's
what it is. So as we always say, we have
a lot of friends that and people probably think we
are what we play favoritism with our friends, but friends
that we do, that's okay. That's why we got to
show so we can bring our friends on so I
don't have to feel bad about it. Okay, So then

(15:39):
this is my friend. So I am so proud today
to bring to the street politicians family because I feel
like of the guests that we've had, you know, you
want to talk to more people that you don't necessarily
agree with. I don't like to give clowns space on
my platform, but there needs to be a balance, and
there's some people who we don't agree with that are

(16:00):
not clowned. So those are the ones I want you
to find, the ones that we can respectfully disagree. So
when you find those people, let me know I'm down
to do it. Um. But I think it is a
family of people who are coming together with different ideas,
and as we grow, and as this show continues to grow,
we want to bring the type of content that makes

(16:20):
people feel like they're learning something. And I certainly have
learned from this. Uh. Next guest, this young lady m
who you know, among a lot of things, she's like
super fly, super amazing um. And also she's an author
and her book really sort of sums up the title
of her book sums up why she's on here today

(16:42):
and what we need to be doing more of with
our time we're on social media, and that is from
mopping floors to making millions on i G. My sister
Ronnie Brown is joining us today. Hi Ronnie, thank you
guys for having me. How did you transition from up

(17:03):
and floors to making millions on G? Well it did.
It wasn't an overnight thing. Let me make sure. Actually, yeah,
I'm not one for fluff. I'm one for you know,
real transparency. So this was something that happened over the
course of probably about five to six years when I
really learned how to monetize social media. I was a

(17:25):
janitor UM. I grew up in the projects of Washington
d c UM. I had my son. At sixteen years old,
I dropped out of college. Um, all of the people
that were around me were hustling, selling drugs in the streets,
doing all that kind of stuff. And I decided that
I was going to go in a different direction. And
it was primarily based on all of the odds that
were stacked against me. You know, when you have a

(17:45):
teen mom and you have a kid young, everyone's already
telling you like, oh, you're gonna fail, you're gonna be
on welfare, you're gonna do this, So it kind of
pushes you to go in a different direction. And I
was really determined to figure out how to make some money.
And honestly, I started off on Facebook and I used
Facebook to sell handmade products that I was making in

(18:07):
my home. That's how I started my first business. And
the reason why I started on Facebook is because I
could not afford to have a website built. I could
not afford to have a report design and build a website.
And I figured out how to go to PayPal, and y'all,
it's gonna tell how old I am, y'all, so you know,
don't judge me. But I figured out how to go

(18:27):
to PayPal, and I don't know if y'all remember this,
but back in the day, you could go to PayPal
and you could take PayPal buttons and you you could
take the link from the button and then you could
paste it and it would generate buy now buttons and
paste to buy now buttons on Facebook. And I would
make these products in my home because I had gotten

(18:48):
fired from my job, and I said that, I'm like, man,
I'm not going to continue to allow people to be
able to tell me when I can make money. And
I'm not gonna keep going through this this this cycle
because another thing people don't really talk about is I'm
being a mom in corporate America and the lack of
grace that is given for mothers who have children who

(19:10):
have to have to do daycare and doctor's appointments, in
school activities and conferences. So I was sick at that point,
and I got on social media and I started plugging
those buttons and I went from hustling on Facebook to
hustling on Instagram and it just took off from there.
I have two things. The first thing is, do you
mean to tell me that getting fired from your job

(19:31):
wasn't the end of your life? Like I just can't
believe it. You know what I'll tell you guys. Um,
when we are in the midst of the fire, we
think that we're just gonna burn up and it's over right.
But when you get out of the fire, you look
back and you say, man, this had to light me
up like I had. I had to literally get lit

(19:54):
for a second for me to figure out ways to
become creative and and getting fired from my job to
some people was the worst thing that could probably happen
to them. But honestly, um, I feel like our success
is in our sacrifices, and I feel like me getting

(20:15):
fired it was a sacrifice that I had to make
and it pushed me right into my purpose and I
needed that. So I mean, I'm being sarcastic, but you know,
there are some people who, first of all, losing your
job when you need your money is very very serious.
So I totally respect that. But I also have lived
long enough to understand that sometimes you don't need that

(20:38):
job anyway, right, Like, it's just it's time to move on.
And I think what you're speaking to is exactly that
you really it was time for you to step into
your own It was time for that boost UM and
losing your job probably is what set you on the
right path, right, But what was the first product that

(20:58):
you sold on Facebook? It was a beauty product. I
created a beauty company and it's so crazy because now
I'm also the CEO of Holistic, which is a clean
self care beauty brand. I have two companies, Girls CEO,
which is a community for women in business, and then
I have her Listic, which is a self care company
that we actually have clean products. But people don't know

(21:22):
that me relaunching and building her Listic was me coming
back to my initial business that failed, which was actually
called um a MORMONAI. And if you hashtag or MORMONAI
or you google a more monai, you will literally see
pictures of myself and my daughter at six years old
doing bending events at tables and with t shirts on

(21:45):
UM and she was actually the only person that could
help me. I needed help and people may have thought like, oh,
her kid was with her, but my daughter was with me.
My daughter just turned eighteen on Tuesday and she's now
building these companies with me. But that was my first
big business. And when I tell you that God's time
and it is perfect, I'm coming back after eleven years

(22:07):
picking back a dream that I was not able to
finance back in two thousand and nine when I started
that company. Wow, So how many children do you have?
I have two boys and two girls. I ain't got
no three kids? Four you can't count? Yes and two
and two all dayenized. My son will be twenty one

(22:32):
this year, and my daughter turned eighteen on Tuesday, and
my baby girl is turning nine. Hit different, don't it different?
I have a fifteen year old little boy that's up
here on top of my head in his room, UM
playing PS five right now. So I am blessed. Yes

(22:54):
you are. Let me tell you are blessed. And I
know it because you've been through well, absolutely and it
shines through um just when I met you and just
throughout all of our encounters and even you know, some
people when you go to their page, it's like you're
not sure who like. It's like something is weird about

(23:14):
the person that you see versus the work they claim
they do for it's just all strange. But with you,
it's very, very seamless, and it's very clear that you're
selling authenticity. So you transitioned over to I G. What
did you bring to I g and how has a
platform that sometimes can be so hateful been successful for you? Well,

(23:40):
I bought a few things. Um, I bought my story.
That was the most important thing, because a lot of
people we don't really want to tell the story. And
the story that I bought was this story that I
was once ashamed up, which was having you know, three
kids by the age of twenty five. That was something
that just followed me growing up, and everyone made in
me for that, and you know, I would be on welfare,

(24:02):
I would be this I failed. I grew up in
the hood, like I let I let my life go
down the drain. So that was the story. But the
story wasn't just that. It was that with everything that
you go through, you can overcome and you can still
make the best of yourself, regardless of the things that
you've done. Um at a young age and even I'm

(24:22):
not looking at your children as a liability. So I
don't look at my children as a liability. My children
there and there they are an asset to my life,
right and I was determined to change that perspective around.
So I've told people what I dealt with, even in
the workplace, and people not giving me grades and being
able to take that time, you know, off. So I

(24:45):
showed mothers and women that you can be a mom
and you can be successful and your story doesn't always
have to be you know, welfare, or even if it is,
you can transition out of that right and you can
build a business and create something that you are ashtionate
about and monetize that thing on social media. So I
came over to social media and I started to sell products. Well,

(25:07):
I really blew up doing that, okay um, And I
started to help other women create their companies. When I
initially started, I did it for free. I did it
for free for seven eight years, just helping women start companies,
helping women build their social media follows. I would get
my phone now I would go in parks and take

(25:29):
pictures of women. They would come to me. I would
do their makeup and take pictures of them and help
them build you know, their images up on mine, and
then teach them how to sell and create names for
their companies. But what happens is, as you continue to
so seeds, it's only a matter of time before that
harvest start. So I have to market myself. The more

(25:50):
people I helped, they started marketing me. They started sharing people,
they started you know, showing people by page and what
I was doing, and it just started taking off from there.
Are just really serving organically. You know, everyone's like, what
do you bring to social media? I bring serving shop.
I tell people that all the time. You know, there's

(26:11):
a process. People love the you know, the finished product,
but they don't they don't love the process. You know,
they see where you got, but they didn't see what
got you there. You know, I just was reading a
quote that you made in the book about your parents
and how they brought how our payments bring us up
in fear and it extends to us. You know, do
you have certain fears that your parents extended to you

(26:33):
that made you scared at first? Timbuk On, You know
your journey for sure entrepreneurship. When I quit my job,
I was working for the government. You know, my mother
is from the old school, and the old school we
were taught to go to school, get an education, and
go work for the white ning. That was the mother knew.

(26:55):
So when I went to school, okay, and I graduated
from high school, I started college. I dropped out of
college because I had to make a choice whether I
was gonna go to school, I was gonna go to
work inside for my son, who was now about to
one years old. I chose to go to work and
make money for my son. My mother was piste with that,
but I also started to build my business. And even

(27:15):
though let me distress this, I remember this day as
clear as yesterday. I remember sitting at a government job
and and at this point I was making about fifty
thousand dollars a month in my company, in my business,
and I had so much fear inside of me, based
on the fear of that money and inside of me
that I was still afraid to walk away from this.

(27:38):
This is the part you need to hear. A job
that was paying me forty five thousand dollars a year
a month, but I was still paralyzed, still offer paralyzed,
because my mother was saying, what are you thinking? Because
because they made you believe that that job was some
level of stability and health and the benefits, the benefits, honey, Yeah,

(28:03):
but no one says, No one teaches you. I have
benefits right now. I'm an entrepreneur. I have an oral
one K, I have health insurance, I have Dino insurance.
I have investments. I have stopped. I have every single
thing that that job offered me on my own. So
now we need to talk about financial literacy so that

(28:23):
I could transition out of being a worker and being
an owner. Because that's what my mother, that's all she knew. Well,
and I just read another excerpt when you said that
you will fight after you begged them to keep you
on the job. Let me tell you a quick story.
I was almost nom as pregnant. I'm working at all

(28:44):
Center at Kais of Permanente, and I was broke. When
I say broke, I mean a different level of broke,
the broke where you go home and you smile at
your kids and they don't know that you're broke. Okay,
you're just you just fake it with the smile. Okay.
But I remember ember going to work. I'm running late.
The tags on my dad, the tags on my car
are already dead. Okay, so I'm taking a risk just

(29:06):
trying to get to work. Okay. I had just moved
into a condo with my children. I had three kids
and we were in a two bedroom condo. All three
of them were sharing a room. Okay, we were making work,
all right, And I remember getting there two minutes late
because I was driving from DC to Virginia and the
freaking call center was probably almost over an hour and

(29:29):
a half in trific away. But I needed the money.
I was gonna pay fifteen dollars an hour. And I
got there two minutes late, almost due to have my baby,
and the lady was going to fire me, and I
got on my knees. I remember, I never forget. It
was a tall white woman. She was my supervisor. And
I got on my knees and I begged and I cried.

(29:52):
It was probably the most humbling and embarrassing experience ever.
I cried to this tall white woman, almost nine months pregnant,
on my knees pregnant, and I said, please, I said,
I need this job. I cannot go home without this
job because I have bills to pay and I had children.

(30:13):
And she said, okay, we'll give you a chance. She
allowed me to work. I worked to the end of
the day, did everything I needed to do, and at
the end of the day, I thought finished filing and
closing out all of my calls. They called me in
the office and she said, we have had to make
a change in our decision. Today is going to be
your last day. And I will never forget that. I

(30:35):
will never forget that, because that alone just made me
remember why ownership was so important. And I drove home
that day with the radio turned off. And I don't
know about you all, but when you ride home and
you ain't got that radio, yes, yes, people thought I
was thinking. And I told myself, I said, I am

(30:57):
never gonna put myself in a position and where someone
else feeding me will be my only source of income.
And I went home and I looked around my house,
and I remember one of my mentors telling me, whenever
business you started, look around your home and see what
you got a lot of, because whatever you're spending your
money on, that's what you were really invested in. Start
something in that area. Whatever you spend most of your

(31:18):
money on, that may be the thing you need to start.
And all around with beauty products and candles and all
the stuff. And I went home. I remember had about
two to three hundred dollars in my bank account, and
I got on Google. Baby, I'm Google University. And this
is why no excuses was making a way out of nowhere,
all right, mama, three no college degree. I got on

(31:39):
Google and I started researching how to make candles, how
to make this, how to make that, And within ten
days I had a product and I was selling it
on Facebook, and I was making just enough to cover
my rent, and I was going out begging. My friends
were going to the club and they were partying. Oh,
I got pictures on my Instagram page and they were
at the parties. And I'm sitting there with a T
shirt on says a Mormon name, holding up lip gloss,

(32:02):
candles and all the products that I was making. And
I was selling stuff and people were laughing at me.
They were laughing. They're not laughing now, they're that's right.
The first they laugh at you and asked you why
are you doing it? Didn't ask you how you how
you did it? Ronnie. I wish we could stay with
you day too, because your story is so inspiring. The

(32:23):
business component is important, but the story of how you
got there is where the real t that's the real sauce.
That's that's it right there. Can you just do one
thing before you leave, because I know we gotta go,
But can you just give a word of encouragement to
old young girls and entrepreneurs who are scared right now?
Who who at that job and they want to quit
and they think they got it, but they just scared.

(32:44):
Just give them one word of advice. Your ancestors are
there for you, waiting for you to take that lead.
We are the most valuable, the most needed people that
that that are had literally walked this earth. Okay, we

(33:06):
are strong. We have so much within us and we
have to know what we have inside of us. We
have yet to really see our true worth, and once
we see that true worth, everything will change. Our data,
our social media platforms are influenced and is so valuable,

(33:29):
and we have to stop allowing people to monetize us
and to leverage us and not truly get what we deserve.
We are the souls how you also, we are the
secrets also to all the women that are listening. You
are so valuable. People need what you have. You have
the magic and it's time that you start monetizing yourself.

(33:51):
Don't allow other people to see your value before you
see it. Well, God, bless you, queen. That is a word.
I'm not even a woman, but I'm gonna take world.
Thank you so much, Ronnie Brown. We appreciate you for
mopping floors. She's at Ronnie Brown. R O N N. E. Brown.

(34:13):
There's no eye and Ronnie, come and check me off.
You listen to this episode and you love it. Come
tell me you're all harmed? All right? Thank you, Ronnie.
She appreciate you so very much. I love you, says
take care before we go to the next segment and
have our special guests joint, We're gonna take a quick
break for our sponsors. Niel. She could be a motivation.

(34:39):
That's what she does. I'm motivated. Yeah, yeah, she's the truth.
I feel like I could win a championship right now.
If I had a job, I would quit right now
and be like, listen, I'm going you do have a job.
If I do have a job. But if I had
a job that I didn't love, that I did because
we developed a job, we created our job. We did
we entrepreneurs were we found what we love, we found

(35:01):
that passion, and we didn't go to no corporation and
we didn't just get a desk job, and we didn't
you know, take the regular They okay, but I'm just
trying to say, but they're not. I'm gonna tell you
the truth. The world is not kind to those of
us who actually are behind the penalties and leadership you're

(35:22):
dealing with. Listen to me, they don't. You ain't the
first woman and they're gonna be the last. This is
what we gotta deal with. I've realized that we all
put for this exact moment in top. But sometimes being
black in America is really really hard, especially being a
black person who's fighting for people that you also have

(35:44):
to fight. So we're dealing with out trauma and sometimes
you gotta whip somebody's ass. Oh Lord Jesus, I said
that it's not physically, it's not about that. I was like,
you're the peacekeeper. Sometimes every now and then you might
have to whip somebody's as. You might have to whip mentally,
not physically, but there has to be some level of whipping.

(36:04):
M and for I would change maker section another one
of our friends, you know, our sister, you know somebody
that I don't think we ever gonna run out of
friends now, We're never gonna You know why, because when
you've got good nature and you've got a good spirit,
good soul, you're gonna track those same people. You know

(36:24):
you're progressive, and you know you're innovative, you're gonna attract
that same type of energy. When I say innovative and
energetic and motivational, that is an understate. You know, we
both know, like this sister gives you a call, you know,
it's about something that's gonna be progressive. I've never got
a call from her that didn't amount to something that

(36:45):
was evolutionary and that was evolving and got me up
and said, okay, what you got? You know what? Either
about a dollar, but I did. She definitely gonna get
to a bag. And it's crazy because her life story
has always been about getting to a bag. But in
this time, with this iteration of her story in her life,
she's trying to turn all the skill sets that were

(37:08):
used in bad ways, negative ways into positive ways to
help some of us. So when people say, oh, well, y'all,
are you know making money off of this and off
the movement and blah blah blah, those things are not true.
But the one thing we can say is there's somebody
that's our friend that does help us, our sister, our sister,

(37:29):
Jim Miller, David Davis. And it's going down. It's going down.
I'm so excited about being kid with you guys today
on this incredible game changing podcast. Thank you for having me.
Thank you. Are you feeling you're part of the street
politicians family. I need like a bell or something so
I can be like, yes, ing ding ding ding ding,

(37:52):
you're at home. I can see when your home. You
work all day and night. Yes, I've been on these
phones all day long, all day long, making some moves happen.
Tell us about this book that you have built to
outlast the storm. So built to outlast the storm is
the twelve points of turning a set back into a

(38:14):
major comeback. And for me, this book is important because
it's the road map I use to see my way
out of a twelve and a half year sentence in
federal prison. Right So for me, like I got hit
so hard that I wanted to die, And some of
us go through experiences in life that no one teaches
us or prepares us for. How are we gonna get

(38:36):
to the other side of it? So it was important
for me to create a book to help people see
the glass half full instead of half empty, to see
the possibilities of what can come out of any situation,
even what you think is the most craziest situation, because
usually it's in those situations that God is either working

(38:57):
on you or about to work through you to do
something amazing. So this book is all about preparing the
mindset for trials and tribulations, understanding the reason for obstacles
and how they can make a stronger, wiser and better Wow.
So first, because we know your story, so I'm telling you,
I'm talking to you like everybody already knows. Just so

(39:18):
you went to prison for twelve years? And what did
you go to prison for twelve years? So? I was
like always kind of that mover and shaker in the street.
I was that chick that wanted to get money by
any means necessary. UM I got into cars. I used
to do a lot of stuff with a lot of
rappers and entertainers with credit and cars, and I graduated

(39:38):
from that into real estate. UM. I actually became a
multi millionaire. By the time I was twenty five years old.
I had um controlled over thirty million dollars worth of
properties and Alpon and Saddle River, New Jersey, which is
pretty much like the highest ends of New Jersey. I
controlled the states, and I thought I had it all
made until the Feds kicked in the doorway. The full four.

(40:00):
You know you didn't see me no more. That was
just what it was. You feel me. So what was
what was your particular crime? If you will? That you
were charged with bank fraud. So I was charged with
bank fraud and conspiracy to the fraud banks. And I
was sentenced to a hundred and fifty one months in
federal prison, which equated to me actually serving nine years

(40:23):
behind bars in a year when I came home on
house arrest. So basically I gave the feeds ten years
of my life. So when did you come home? I
came home in seventeen. I remember that. I remember that.
Remember the first day I met you, you you, We
was at an event and um, you was with Yandy
and I remember you had on these high hill shoes

(40:44):
and you and you was like, I ain't walking high hills,
and so long you bringing me back because in prison
we only have still told boots, right, I trt to
be cute. And actually that was the day that I
met one of my faves, which is to mek A D. Mallory,
it's crazy that we're sisters now, but to me Gett
somebody I used to read about on the bunk beds

(41:04):
of my my my prison, you know, in the prison
I was in, and I would see her and essence
to Ebony as this change maker. She actually inspired me
to create the movement that I created behind bars, which
is women over incarcerated. So to see someone that I
admired so much, and that was like the first time
I ever met her, kind of wanted to be a
little cute, a little bit, you know, my but my

(41:24):
feet was definitely hurting. But I definitely remember that day
very very clearly. Yeah, from day one, Um, you know,
you let me know that you were like, I'm about it.
I'm a worker, like, put me to work. I want
to be a soldier in the army. And at first
I was kind of like, I don't, you know, like
why does she like me? Because you know, I deal
with insecurity issues around, you know, not feeling as important

(41:49):
as some people have ordeemed me to be. And so
I was kind of like she keeps saying that she
was watching me from prison. I'm like, first of all,
how and then second of all, why why me? Um?
But over time I understood that God put us together,
like the team that we have built over the last

(42:12):
few years, now five years or four years, and it's
it's been even a little bit longer than that for
my son and myself and and others. That team was
put together and designed by God because what we're doing
together is revolutionary. It is, it's amazing. I mean. And
people will say to me, I don't see you, you know,

(42:34):
building community centers. Well, my brother, my dear brother A. T.
Mitchell of man Up does have a community center. Other
individuals that I work with are either building or have
built community centers. People say, well, you're not doing enough
for our youth, you're just protesting. Well that's not true
because my sister also has the v I P Online

(42:55):
Academy and other programs that we work within schools with
young people, and I'm very much so a part of that. Well,
we don't see you doing financial little Well, we just
had some folks on the show and have other folks
that we work closely with who do financial literacy work.
So you know, the the issue is that we're all

(43:16):
trying to be in our lanes, you know, and and
but at the point that our lanes intersect, where we
may have to get in the right lane, get in
the left lane, get in the turning lanes, that's where
we that's called collaboration. And our collaborative efforts with you,
Jamila have been extremely powerful. So you came back and said,

(43:37):
and let me ask you, was a part of the
terms of your release that you would never be involved
with like banks and housing and all of that. Again,
the fans got a whole hole on me, a whole
like I can't be involved in real estate. If I am,
then I could go back to prison. So I had
to find a whole another career path. Um, and with
the help of you know yourself. I just think that

(43:59):
people don't know enough of about you and know enough
about the work that you do and the mentorship you do. Right,
So UM, working with you guys, I found the lane
within the school system and you know, from there started
doing mentorship program to what we have today. And we
have the v I P Online Academy, which is really
in schools and all across now New York City and

(44:19):
now we're in New Jersey and expanding. And then with
the work of Until Freedom and your team, we are
creating a whole social justice curriculum that's about to be
mandatory for school students in schools throughout the Troy State area.
I mean I just I just think it's amazing when
you look at how we come together and we form
like what I call vote, you know, And I just

(44:42):
want to say, I'm always amazed by you. You know.
It's it's a few people that I look at that
have come home and they have evolved like they have.
They didn't wait. They didn't say, Dad, I don't have this.
I got nothing. They didn't look for handouts, they didn't
get mad at it. You know yourself, My brother Wilow,

(45:03):
you know, y'all came home and immediately just hit the
streets running. You wait around and to see your success constantly,
you know, And and it became it is because you
prepared before you got to society, you know, being formally incarcerated.
I used to always tell people that you can't go home.
You can't wait till you go home. To be successful.

(45:23):
You have to prepare to come home and be successful.
You have to prepare that you might not be successful.
You have to prepare to fail. You have to say, yo,
you know what everything. Body's not gonna say. Yes, the
plans that I have might not go right, but I'm
not gonna stop. You have to make up your mind
that first of all, I'm never coming back to prison.
And second of all, why I'm in society. I'm going

(45:43):
to be productive. I am going to win. And you
have that energy, and you've had that energy from day one?
What keep what gives you that energy? Well, let me
just say this. First of all, I know that I'm
God's child. He chastens those that he loves, right, So
I know that he had put me in a situation
because he wanted to get my attention and wanted to
me to understand that the streets tricked me. The things

(46:06):
that I thought meant something really meant nothing at all. Um,
I've been able to stand on the shoulder of giants literally.
So I was inconservated with Lauren Hill, who became a
very close friend of mine who inspired me in great
ways right, And for me to even meet her, she
had a ninety days sentence in prison, and for me
to even meet her and she to inspire me the
way that she did was just incredible. So I started

(46:28):
off with an advantage, like from a lot of people
don't know, but from behind bars. Lauren and I started filming,
so we had a whole production company. I'm a prisoner,
I'm a whole casting agent getting people together to come
out of prison. I did that. Then Gandy came along
and then put me on her back and I was
able to work with her um with e. G. L
pulled doing the incredible, amazing things that she does. And

(46:51):
then my sister to Mika, I was able to get
on her back and she helped to stamp me as
an activist in you my song. So it's like, I'm blessed.
Then I just want folks to know because sometimes people
look at me and they'd be like, yo, she's guarded
than life. You know what. I'm just blessed because God
had me in lie with his vessels and that's key.
Folks gotta understand. For God the move, he needs vessel

(47:12):
right as some of us answered the call. And I'm
just grateful for those that answered the call. And I'm
a quick learner, So I got up underneath them, soaked
up the information and did what I needed to do
with the contacts and the information I got. Wow, it
puts me in the mind as we we want to
close out and thank you so much for being here,
But it puts me in the mind. Uh. And you

(47:33):
were just with us recently at the one year anniversary
of of Brianna Taylor's murder, where we looked up and
I saw a tweet from her where she right twelve
days before she was killed. She tweeted, take me to
a place that I can't even imagine. And I feel
like all of us are going to places that we

(47:57):
can't imagine. But it's not work that we're doing, when
it's work that is happening for us because we are.
We've decided that it's okay to answer the call. That
call is on your life, Jamilla, and we appreciate you
so much innovative, creative nature and also your unwillingness to

(48:19):
allow us to slip, like you're always saying, you know,
we could do more, we can do better, we can
make changes, and I think because of that it makes
us all better. You make people better when you put
your hand in their lives. So thank you so very
much for being the vessels. When I think about teams,

(48:40):
you know, everybody has a job to do. They got
point guards, they got somebody that rebounds the ball, and
you just do You are motivating. You know you are
somebody that not and you take something from a to Z.
You know, I have ideas sometimes when I call you
an idea and you're like, it's done, It's gonna get done,
and it gets done. Man. So we need people like you.
You are a jewel. Continue to be great, continue to

(49:03):
shine and you know, and I'm just glad that I
know you and I can call you my sister. Yes, Humility, Davis,
thank you outlast. Make sure you get that book right now,
not now, but right now now. Peace, love you, love you,
Thank you. Guys. Are Jamial is not just a motivator,

(49:27):
She's an executor and I think that's and that's the
one thing, you know, we didn't have a lot of time,
but that was something that um I wanted to talk about.
Is the idea, like you said, when when you call
in and say I need to do something, the next thing,
you know, Jamiller calls back and she don't put together
more than you asked for because she's so creative and
she's an executor and she will if you give her

(49:49):
your blessing, she will take projects and run it as
far down the field court whatever you want to say
as she can and then come and say to you,
I just you know, I I need your help to
sort of kick it over the line. And I'm I'm
I'm really, really really thankful for her friendship because I
can see where I've grown even in my own business

(50:10):
acumen since you know, being becoming friends with her, same
as moths. You know, I always tell her like you
motivate me. She'll call me. Every time Jamiller calls me.
Is what an opportunity. It's just gonna be the right thing. Bro,
This this is what I got for you. And it's
like every time I see jam Miller's phone, I don't
I don't let it bring twice. You know it's about something, Yeah,

(50:30):
because you know you got to bring home the bacon. Man,
you got three you don't do bacon. Oh you're gonna
bring home. You've got to bring home the business. Yes,
I love Jamillan. Now you know it is Women's History Month.
We're still right. We're still celebrating Women's History Month. We

(50:54):
have tried to highlight all months women owned businesses, but
as a part the Street Politicians, going forward, we will
be highlighting many businesses of all type of people. To
hit us up. We definitely want to get your business
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(51:15):
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(51:39):
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um evaluate whether or not you are prepared for the
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(52:00):
are watching, you see the information on the screen. Look
you know they do that thing on our show when
it goes like You'll see the information there where you
can send inquiries and and send information about your businesses.
In keeping with that, I want to make sure to
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(52:22):
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This is uh, one of the dear sisters out of
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(52:46):
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We have another one of our friends today is the

(53:06):
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Friendly Show. It's always the Friendly showman. You know, we
like to highlight all people doing good things. But we
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(53:29):
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you know. She's also a psychotherapist and she has had
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know if it's working because you're still crazy. Well, listen,
that's not true. We are not going to perpetuate falsehoods
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(53:51):
not make you crazy, No, I didn't say no. I
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(54:11):
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(54:34):
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Bring it down and be you gotta get your cheat together. Okay,
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(54:56):
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(55:40):
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(56:04):
curated for the beginner meditator. I've brought this box forward
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(56:25):
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(58:16):
gonna get that is precious. She is so precious man.
Her soul is just so beautiful. Man. When you're looking
at this show man, seeing how many people have just
moved in their purpose. Right. We had Ronnie Brown, who
you know, she was pushed into her, but she's told
you how the world had broke her down. She didn't
believe in herselves. She had passed, you know, inferiority and

(58:38):
you know fear that passed from parents. That because we
all have had that, you know, and our parents just
told us to get a job. And it brings me
to my I don't get it. Why are we, especially
black people, afraid of our greatness? Why are we so

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scared to be great? Why are we so scared to
move in alignment with our purpose? You know, a lot
of us second guests ourselves all the time. You know,
I have conversations with a lot of people all the time,
and I don't not saying I'm bid than anybody. I
don't really have a lot of that, you know, you know,
because I believe I do. Even if I can't, I

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believe I can. You know. But I've realized that most
of us, when you can see greatness in somebody, be like, yo,
you great. Do this, and they'd be like, no, you know,
I just rather just keep playing this little safe role
because I told you why. I have had this conversation
with you nine thousand million, five million, thousand, million thousand times.
And what is it that sometimes people feel afraid of

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what they believe? Like my family is gonna say I
think I'm all that. Um, you know what if I succeed? Like,
then what do I do? Uh? You know what if
I fail? It's it's so many different things that have
been instilled in us from over general rations of people
beating us down and telling us we can't, and we're
even afraid of that if we can, we are afraid

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of the backlash of family members and friends who might
not support us, or people who might who might laugh
at us if it doesn't work out. So people are
dealing with a lot of insecurities. And I know for me,
it's like after being on the Grammy stage, I was
one hundred sure sure every people around me. People around

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me will tell you you know it, Yandy sat in
my room. In fact, I'm excited that because people think,
you know, you're making it up now. But there is
a piece of um, I hope they actually don't edit
it out, but there's a piece of something that a
film that filmer's or what do you call them TV people,

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um that they filmed where right before the Grammy performance
is going live that night, I'm having a conversation with Porscha,
Yandy and lend this our sore about how I'm feeling,
and I explained to them that unfortunately, my level of
excitement wasn't where it needed to be because I already

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knew I was a hundred percent sure that people were
going to lose it over me being in that space,
just because I think folks are more comfortable when you are,
you know, not not about doing better than that you
know what I mean, and and and not to say
that being at the Grammys makes you great, but certainly

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everybody needs wants and needs, in my opinion, the opportunity
to stand before the world and say what they have been,
what they've been saying all along, right, And so I
was being given that opportunity, and I knew already that
there was gonna be haters. And guess what, I still
continue to deal with haters from other things that have
happened recently. That's just what it is. I mean, I

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understand that, and I realized that, I realized that the
level of confidence that I have, even when if I
might be the words to son always thinking I'm the best,
it's something that's rare. So that's why I asked the question.
But I also know that we need to figure out
how do we empower our youth, right because, like you said,
there's been this generational fear that's been passed down, There's

(01:02:13):
been generational trauma that we have. You know, there's this
insecurity that people have. You know, we need to start courses,
We need to start things that empower you, that talk
this energy into them. I'm starting, I'm starting, actually starting
the course and the organization court raising kings just for
that purpose, because I realized, you know, affirmation is real.

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I have these conversations with my sons every morning before
I drift them with the school, you know, and I said,
my mantra is their mantra is I'm a king and
I'm chasing greatness. And if I can't control myself, I
can't control anything, you know, And this hat actually comes
from that mantra. This is, you know, shameless, shameless them,
don't get in trouble in school. Control yourself and you

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can't control you. You can't control nothing. But it's something
that when you keep saying it to yourself, when you
say I'm a king and I'm chasing greatness, it gives
you a level of empowerment. Man. So I just I
just tell all of our young kings and queens out there,
don't be scared to live in your purpose, don't be
scared to walk your path. Don't allow anybody's insecurities, you know,

(01:03:23):
to rub off on you. Jay Z said that you know,
you can't tell me what I'm I'm not gonna be
because what you haven't been. You know, people want to
rub their insecurities and their fears on you, and I
don't allow that, and I empower everybody, like I have
these conversations with you all the time. Like you said,
you always be like, oh, I don't know, I don't
want to you know, and I say all the time, like,

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you have to live in your purpose. You have to
continue to walk in your purpose. God designs you for
this exact moment. You know what you're dealing with right now,
the the backlash and everything is exactly what you're supposed
to be dealing with because you are exactly you are
perfectly prepared to deal with this. I guess that's what
they say. And don't always feel like that when you're

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going through it. But hey, listen to me. What we're
going through is most great leaders in this world have
went through. You know, they home Jesus Christ, Well, listen,
and we know we ain't nowhere near Jesus. And they
shot Malcolm well and we know we're not so nowhere.
They killed nowhere near Malcolm, although they couldn't even find
Malcolm a good place to be buried in Harlem, the

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place where he came from. So and now, people in Harlem,
not all of them, but many of them have his
pictures hanging on the wall and he got a boulevard.
They got to me, And that wraps up our shows
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