May 15, 2012 • 32 mins
Interpol is an international police agency that helps other law-enforcement agencies track criminals who operate across national borders -- but how does it work, exactly? Join the guys as they delve into the world of global law enforcement.
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It's ready. Are you welcome to you stuff you should
know from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome
to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Uh.
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And since you put the two of us together with
microphones as we are now, uh and press records, you
get stuff you should know. That's right. A little podcast,
just a little podcast, gussy little podcast made a silk comes.
How are you, sir? I'm pretty good your papers? Please? No?
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What is that you know? Into pol is that you
sounded like? Um? The little Asian man who gives the
box to Pinhead, the man who eventually becomes Pinhead. What
does y'all plasias? Uh? That's kind of who you're wanting
to be. Well, then that's what I was doing. Good one,
My first good impression yet. The guy has interpoll written
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all over him, he's got a he's got an orange
notice out on him. I'll bet you green. We'll get
on that later. Chuck. I'm pretty much sure you had
nothing to do with this, so you may not have
heard about it. Um. Back in two thousand eleven about
this time. March two thousand eleven, inter Poll, the international
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police organization, cracked a UM child pedophile ring, the biggest
one ever really centered on a website I guess appropriately
enough called boy lover dot net run out of Amsterdam.
Boy lover dot net is just a straight up legitimate
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gay porn site, but there was a forum there with
like seventy thousand members with that like said, well, hey,
you're you're into this kind of thing too, huh Um,
I got a video that you're gonna love, and I
also have a little boy that I'm gonna mail to you.
So this wasn't affiliated with the website. No, they're just
using one of the forums as a meeting place for pedophiles.
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But Interpol busted these guys up, rescued UM two and
thirty kids, arrested a hundred and eight four UM suspects
just in the first sweet pretty much in thirty countries. Yeah,
good for them, It is good for them. It's just
one of the many victories and triumphs over pederasty that
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Interpol can boast. That's right, and not just pederasty, like
all sorts of huge international crimes. Anytime there's a crime
syndicate or a ring. You need to watch out because
Interpoll's watching you. Into Poll is right behind you. Why
does y'all plasia? Uh? And this was actually fans generated this. Um.
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This came on Facebook like three days ago. Oh really,
I wish i'd have got the guy's name. Some kid
was like, hey, can you do one interpoll? And I went, yeah, sure, sure.
He wasn't talking about the band. He might have been.
They still around. Yeah, they're still around. H yeah they are. Yeah,
I don't I don't know what they're doing these days.
I'm not a fan, so I don't know. Dude, how
do you not like Inner Pole? Just like listen to
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their music and it didn't sit right in my ears.
I'm surprised. I thought, like everybody like Dinner Pole. Yeah,
they're just good. Yeah, yeah, do you think all right?
INTERPOL the International Criminal Police Organization or i c PO,
or if you're in France or their headquartered, you might
call it the Organists Organist Internacional de Police criminal very nice,
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which is pretty much the same thing and different word order.
I didn't know this, but criminal is feminine. Oh yeah, yeah,
I didn't realize that they like the ladies. Yes, all right, So,
as you said, Josh, they are an international UM fully autonomous,
not affiliated with any single country or inization. I think
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they're a hundred eighty six countries nine now, and they
all contribute to the to the budget, to the kitty
based on their size and their g d P and
some other factors. It's very it's very fair, um, but
it's very important, like you said, that they're not beholden
to any one country, UM and that they remain neutral,
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and they don't and they don't engage in any um
any investigations into political stuff things UM contributing or being
centered on race or um religion. That's right. My brain
is now working today. My brain is uh so what
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they do, Josh, you just said what they don't do?
What they do do, uh terrorism, sexual terrorism like nobody,
sexual abuse, especially with children, which is what you just
talked about. UM, organized crime, international fugitives, computer crime, UM stolen,
aren't money laundering, human trafficking, illegal drugs, smuggling, environmental crime,
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anything that crosses international borders. Almost you're gonna find into
pol helping helping out with But and you said the
magic phrase helping out like interpoll doesn't have they don't
run around like arresting guys. Place back guys. It is
interpoll UM and they they don't have interpolled jail, as
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a Grabanowski points out, UM. But what they do is
they serve as this international meeting point for UM already
established national agencies. Right, So let's let's do a little scenario.
I'm FBI agent Todd Ridgeway of the des Moines, IOWA
Field office, and your agent, Vinny Testaverity of the Politia
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Destado in Italy, and I believe a terrorist is UM
hiding out near your fel Old office in Genoa. So
I'm calling you up like ring ring. This is Todd Ridgeway.
I'm with the FBI in Des Moines. Hey, Todd, this
is Vinny tes So. And see what Chuck just demonstrated
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was how it doesn't work because Vinny Testaverdi doesn't speak
a look of English and Todd Ridgeway doesn't speak any Italian. Right.
And not only that, he shouldn't have been calling Vinny Testaverdi,
he should have been calling Giuseppe de Bikono UM, who's
with the local police, because that's what the Italian UM
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police bureaucracy protocol calls for but he has no idea, no,
so what does he do? He calls into POTE that's right,
and they step up and they're like, you know, he
need to get in touch with You need to get
in touch with Vinny Testa, Verdie's cousin who works for
the state police over there, the Polizza but Italy, because
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there who's handling this case. Here's their number. In fact,
let me go ahead and patch it through. But not
only that, I'm gonna and I'm going to translate for you. Um. Yeah,
So they're the interpoll Um. Interpol has what are called
National Central Bureaus national country Bureaus no National Central Bureaus
n CBS, and that's like an FBI field office, but
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they have them in different countries around the world, and
they serve as liaisons for the local or state or
national police with the same their counterparts in other countries.
That's the big one. Yea. It gets you know when
you it's it's complicated enough within these United States with
jurisdictions and protocol, but when you open it up to
the world, boy, it gets all kinds of crazy. So
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luckily into poll is there you've been any peing contests well,
they probably tried to, but them should they exist? Um.
Their big deal is their databases, because the FBI and
the CIA, why they might all have like and whatever
your country's databases are crime databases, they probably just extend
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to that country, unless it's like some sort of database
on terrorism. UM interpolls. Databases are away extensive. They circle
the globe and they can track criminals pretty much anywhere
and everywhere. Fingerprints, mug shots, wanted people, DNA, you name it. UM.
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They have a they have a database just of lost
lost in stolen travel documents. It's got more than like
twelve million files to it. Yeah. I think I saw
somewhere today too that they said most people don't try
and recover those, which I thought was interesting. Well, I
imagine like if you lose your passport, you're probably traveling
abroad and yeah, you're not getting that back. You never
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know unless you go. Yeah, yeah, they could have your
stuff because who knows, they could that could have been
stolen to be used in some trafficking syndicate. It's true,
and your name could be all drug all through the
mud on boilover dot net. UM. The the database that
they are, the databases that they maintain or are their own,
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but they're open and their access through this UM communications
net we're called I seven. That's something because inter poll
is UM. They're open seven three even on Christmas. They're
fully operational. Really, they don't close down like all the
police do here on Christmas. No, because think about it, man, UM, Well, yes,
I get your joke, but I mean think about the
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skeleton crews that go down. I think inter polls open
all the time because they cross all all UM time
zones at all times. Yeah, so they kind of have
to be ready to go all the time because you know,
while one guy sleeping, the criminals in one country are sleeping,
their wide awake and carrying out bad activities in another.
That's true. What else can they do, josh? Oh? They
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serve that seven is also a place where you can
access another country's databases. So there's those those nationally bound
database has become international through this portal and interpal overseas
all of that, so they know what's going on. UM.
They also, let's say there's an international disaster of some sort,
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like a terrorist attack, assassination, UM, they can send an
incident response team UM generally coordinated through the U N.
If there's some sort of actually a natural disaster like
the tsunami efforts, they can send people down there to
help UM identify people and look for missing persons. UH,
protect kids, because I can guarantee you there are a
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lot of pedophiles who traveled to Indonesia after that tsunami.
That's right. That's crazy, man, that's just that's awful. Imagine
like losing your parents, being seven, suddenly an orphan, and
then now there's some guy who's like, hey, you're coming
to Holland with me. You're like, no, I'm not. He's like, yeah,
you really are. Well, you don't understand what he's saying.
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He just offers you the lolly in a in a
car ride. Yeah. Very sad. But thanks to interpoll things
like that are being thwarted. Uh. And I saw there's
two types of incident response teams UM. They have the
criminal type and the disaster type UM and but they
both serve in an advisory capacity and they show up
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with their database like I can get you into. They
can act as a central command. Though if local authorities say, hey,
we need your help to act as central command, help
us out with logistics. UM. I think the Grabster said
in two thousand five they did that twelve times once
a month. Not bad. Dust off the old work and shoes. Yeah,
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like get out the field. Yeah, time to get out
of bed. How's it? Structure? Josh, Well, I'll tell you.
Interpoll is made up of a General Assembly in which
each of the member nations has one delegate and one
vote thanks a love sense. They meet once a year
and they vote on all the big stuff, which kind
of makes it a slow, lumbering bureaucracy unless they invest
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a lot of authority into the Executive Committee, which is
the thirteen member committee that basically carries out all the
administrative functions of Interpol. And they are elected, as is
the Secretary General, although it saysn't here appointed. That's all elected.
Oh yeah, yeah, now he's elected because um I saw
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this guy, Ronald K. Noble. He got an overwhelming elegy
of the vote for his second reelection. So he's in
his third term, first time ever. Yeah, which is I
think he's running from under this current term. And he
is the first American secretary general if I'm not mistaken right,
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And he's the first three time secretary general too. Then
a lot of frenchie's I think I saw one, uh Englishman. Yeah,
and uh, there's definitely one German cause there was some
controversy with that. I believe the president is Korean, now, okay,
not to be confused with the secretary general. The president
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is beneath him, right. The Secretary General is who actually
runs the day to day show, right, and he's headquartered
um in the General Secretariat, which is the main headquarters
in Leon, France. That's right, um. And then there's other
there's regional offices. There's six of them, the sixth of
which is in New York, and that's the special Liaison
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under the u N. Because Interpoll very wisely got in
with the u N because like this body has some
staying power. That's right. We're gonna become friendly with them.
You can also find these place offices in Argentina, El Salvador, Thailand, Kenya,
Zimbabwe and Cote Dvoir. Very nice, Thank you? Did you
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practice in No? Just it's lovely name that I've said
it many use myself. Yet it means the um coast
devoir in French. Okay. You mentioned that we all all
member countries chip in for the budget. UM. The budget
is not a lot, though, compared to like any budget
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in the United States. I think in two thousand seven,
um the grabster pointed it at roughly sixty one million
dollars US or forty four a million euros, which I
wonder what that's equal to now, two thousand seven dollars
to two thousand eleven. But it's a big change. I
should have looked up the current budget actually failed to.
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It's okay, Chuck, let's talk about the notices. So this
is their other big thing. Um. They don't just sit
around and and wait to be asked for help. They
also disseminate information, and they do it through color coded notices.
They've got, Um, let's see what is the nine? Eight?
Think seven? Okay, so they have eight now because they
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added another one after this after the Stephen. Yes, um,
and the different color codes mean different things. So you're
going to get via teletype possibly facts or maybe even email.
You'll get like some sort of maybe a PDF document
of um, say Orange basically says like, hey, we've got
we have pretty good idea that there's an imminent threat
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and it's this guy and he's wearing this coat and
he's got a bomb. Yeah. So that if you get
an orange one, your head better perk up and you
need to look closely. That's right. Black is unidentified bodies.
That's the same one. That's the sattus of all notices
UM yellow missing persons. It's probably second status, uh green
general information and warnings about major criminals. So this one
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is kind of it. Um, that's pretty vague. High well,
it highlights another function that they have. UM that it
wasn't explicitly stated in this article, but I gleaned using
my powers of deduction, that they have analysts who crunch
all this data, who poured through databasis, look at crime trends,
look at criminal trends, and then um come up with
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basically just general notices. When they're sitting around with some
time on their hands, they issue green notices that say like, hey,
here's another angle to a case that you might not
have thought of. For interesting, have you met this guy.
Here's all the bad stuff he's done. He may be
in your neighborhood, right, that kind of thing, And the
local authorities say, yeah, yeah, interval, we got we know
you've got some time on your hand. Very nice, thank you.
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The blue notice Josh is um individuals of interest related
to a crime, including the possible witnesses or suspects or
persons of interest. Is a good umbrella term for those
kinds of people your crime that's already been comming, people
who ran with the wrong crowd, where at the wrong place,
in the wrong time, and didn't stick around. On an
international level, that's right. Red. Recently, Mr Juliana Sans was
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issued at the red notice, which means you are wanted
and it's sort of like a world wide a PB.
You gotta keep that. You print it out and put
it on your wall. What a red inner pole notice
on you? Oh yeah, got two find of his. I'll
bet he kept his thin I'll bet he's one of
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the few who did. With photoshop though, I mean, you
can never tell if it's real or not. You or
I could make our own. I mean we should do that.
Why not have a feeling one's coming your way. UH
interpoll notice which is not a color. That was scary
to me because it was the only one that's not
a color unless the new one you talked about. It
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is not a color. The Interpol notice means, um, it's
a U n UH Security Council Special notice, meaning groups
of individuals involved with al Qaeda or the Taliban or
at work. Yeah, people who have UN sanctions on them. Um.
Then there's now the Purple notice, which, um, basically it's
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kind of like a green notice. It's like, hey, be
aware of this kind of stuff that's going on, but
it's about what people are doing, like international criminal trans
Like do you remember I think they were like pen guns.
There was like just a few years back, there was
like a pen that could shoot and it was very
low powered. But I think inter Poll sent out a
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notice on this, like, hey, you guys need to be
aware that this thing's out there. Okay, well, inter Poll
probably inspired the writer. Interesting, it was a comedy too.
I guarantee Interpoll inspired the writer. It was pretty funny.
It was Fred red Ward, Fred Warder, Fred Willard fred
Ward Okay, the time writer Remo Williams. Yeah, he had
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a he had a pen gun and shot at dude
in the neck. It was kind of funny. What movie
was it, Uh, thirty Minutes or Less with Danny McBride
and uh, it was good. The guy who played Facebook
he laid Facebook Mark, Yeah, the Jesse Eisenberg there, they
were both in that. It was sort of funny, but
not highly recommended. But that scene was funny because Fred
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Willards like, you think it's a pen and all of
sudden need to shoot the stude in the neck with it.
That's funny. Um, that's high comedy. Yeah, it was very much. Um.
I watched Inside Man again last night. That's such a
good movie. Which one is that Spike Lee heist movie
with Clive Owens that dude, really Yeah, you hadn't seen
it either. I made it watch the last night. She's like,
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this is a good movie. That's one of the few
Spike Lee movies I have not seen. It's see that
all right? Have you seen twenty Yeah that's a good
one too. Yeah. I think Inside Man hasn't beaten all right.
So yeah, Purple is just basically like information on new
types of criminal activity that people need to be made
aware of, like pen guns, gotcha and Fred Ward, But
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the pen gun was a real warning or a real
purple warning. Notice, I don't know. I'm just assuming I'm
using example. So let's talk about the history of interpoll Chuck.
It has a strange, tumultuous history that closely fall It
was the tumult of the twentieth century if you ask me, Yeah,
and Ed kind of breeze right over the whole Nazi
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part of it. There's been a lot of controversy over that. Actually,
oh yeah, why are they accused of colluding? Well, let's
back up. They were formed and being in Austria, uh,
during World War Two. Ed says they were interrupted when
the Nazis took control, deposed the Secretary General moved to
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Berlin for a short time, but then after the war
everything was rebuilt, they moved to Paris, and that's kind
of all he said. I looked a little further into it,
and it's pretty uh, pretty controversial those years, UM, when
it was under Nazi rule. Obviously, Uh, they shared headquarters
with the Gestapo, officially operated UM as a division within
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the Nazi Security Police, and to Nazi war criminals were
the agency's presidents during the wartime. Plus they overspent on
Christmas partes. Uh. And then this A read a Times
article and some of the comments back to the editorial said,
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you guys even kind of whitewashed it because after the
war they refused to take part in the sixties and
seventies in any of the Nazi war crime hunting, war
criminal hunts. Uh wow, I had no idea, Chuck, I'm
really glad you did this. Yeah. And then uh in
nineteen their president uh to seventy two was Paul Dickkop
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and he was an s S officer. No, he was
and remained president despite them finding out about this and
knowing about this, and that was pretty controversial. Toe, I'll
bet you don't usually want Nazis leading your organization former
Nazis either, no, you know what I'm saying. Once the Nazi,
always the Nazi in my opinion. Well, dip Cop was
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the he was that the president for whatever four years. Yeah. Wow.
And a lot of people, a lot of people say
interpoll is like run without oversight and they have all
this access, but no one has access to their real
like how they do things the opposite of how grab
Minowski tells them. Yeah, it's a little more controversial than
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I thought. Wants to start poking around. Well, I I
guess it was probably the VHS tapes that started to
bring them out of the dark and into uh, I
guess a brighter role. Remember the Interpol warning on old
video cassettes? Now was that interval? Oh yeah, and now
it's like an FBI warring. But before and every once
in a while you'll still see it like Interpol warning
it's again like copyright theft and piracy. Um. But yeah,
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apparently they now are they've shed themselves of Nazis and
have a third term Secretary General who's busting pedophiles in Amsterdam.
And did you pretty I think that's good? I'm saying,
oh yeah, yeah, they've they've apparently tried to clean up
their image a lot since those days. It's crazy, man um.
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And you did you hear about the executive order Obama
signed and oh nine, it was pretty controversial among conservatives
because little background. The International Organization and Immunities Act in
ninety five was signed into law, and basically that meant
the president could say certain organizations international organizations that worked
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in the US are exempted from certain things like taxes,
search and sees or laws. And pretty much every president
has said you can be a part of this, like
the Red Cross Reagan UH in nineteen eighty three included
interpoll Um as part of that group. Songs like four
different sections dealing with property taxes, social security, federal taxes, customs, duties,
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and UH having property and assets searched and confiscated then
and O nine, Obama said those four things now you're
immune from as well, so you have full immunity Interpoll
does in the United States from these things. And conservatives
got up in arms about, you know, the fact that
Obama had signed this. They tend to get up in
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army anything he signed, like his his dinner check. Uh.
But then people rallied back and said, well, you know,
I thought you wanted someone tough on crime, and he's
basically saying Interpoll has more rights to do their thing
in the United States. So which way do you want it?
Or do you just want to complain about everything that
he does? Uh? And the Obama administration said that, you
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know what, this really didn't give them any more free
reign than Reagan had already given them an eighty three.
It is sort of finished up what he started. So
who knows, regardless regardless of which side you sit on
on the political aisle, Obama is the new Reagan the
end you got any more? Uh. Some successes. You talked
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about the tsunami in two thousand four, UM, and they
your pedophile scenario. It's pretty big, not yours thirty countries,
that's pretty huge. UM. They helped identify and capture a
Serbian war criminal, Milan Lukic Luci Luke. I bet it's
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lukach Uh in Argentina, coordinating between Argentina and Chile and
uh Bosnia Herzegovina. Yeah. Um, and let's see. Uh. They
they also had one, Um you remember the Madrid train bombings. Man,
I had forgotten about those ninety people. Um, and they
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managed to catch at least one guy. They they found
twenty one guilty, but the interpoll called at least one
guy through coordination between Belgrade, Baghdad and Madrid offices. And
did you know the twenty one people who were found
guilty of that got to combine forty thousand years in prison. Really, yeah,
he'll probably never get out. No, no, I don't think
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they're gonna get out. And then grabs Her pointed this
one out. A response team obtained and disseminated fingerprints and
photographs of Abu Musab al al Zarkawi. Yeah, which sounds
kind of whatever. But then you're like, oh, yeah, how
would you get that guys? I guess yeah, I thought
the same thing, and then I thought twice. I was like, now,
I guess that is a pretty big deal. It's worth mentiny. Yeah. Sure,
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I didn't find a lot of stuff though that searched
for more. Yeah, same here. And I think they're sort
of behind the scenes that they're like, we're not gonna
have any big arrests because we don't do that. Um,
but we're involved in a lot of those on the
back end on their website, UM, which is a pretty cool,
user friendly website. Agreed. It's like, here's a lot of
information that's very vague. Yeah, like we have two kinds
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of response teams, criminal and disaster, and that's all we're
gonna say about that. That kind of thing. And you know,
I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anymore about their controversies.
I'm curious, does your dad work at Interpoll? We want
to know, Um, you got anything else? So if you
want to learn more about inter Poll and and read
a very glowing review of their life and work, very glossy,
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whitewashed review, UM, you can type in interpol I N
T E R P O L. And did we say
where they got the name? I don't think we did.
I don't think so. So with the advent of telegraph communications,
they're like man we need to uh, we need to
shorten this or else people aren't gonna waste the money
with Western Union talking about us, so they shorten their
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name to Interpol. Instead of the longer I c OP.
They should just call i CP. Yeah, I COP. Yeah yeah, Well,
don't type I guess you could type I COP into
the search probably some mac Apple app now that allows
you to like make citizens arrest. Um, that's a good one. Thanks,
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we should go make that. Um. Well, yeah, type I
COP in the search bar. How stuff works dot com?
And I said search bar, It just didn't you know it,
which means it's time for listener now, Josh, I'm gonna
call this uh uhm. A brewer for Anheuser Busch. Wow,
it's a big, big time one of the big daddies. Hey, guys,
(28:18):
just finished listening to the Beer podcast and felt compelled
to write. I used to live in Atlanta and missed
the Beer Senior, a dream of the brick store pub
every third night. I'm a beer geek homebrewer, and also
happened to now brew beer for Annheuser Busch UM also
now known as a b in Bev. As was mentioned
in the podcast, it's a pretty sweet gig that all
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started for me by homebrewing in my Atlanta apartment closet. Crazy. UM.
I enjoyed the podcast a lot, and you were pretty
spot on with the info and brewing one on one,
except for the mention of forced carbonation. UM, I have
worked because I think we said that that the big
breweries like forced carbonate everything not so UM. I've worked
a couple of crap berries aside from my current job
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at Anheuser Busch, and I had never seen this before.
I can't speak for the other big guys, but our
beer at ANH Anheuser Busch is made pretty much the
same way as other small craft beers. We just have
much larger equipment and more automation at Anheuser Busch. After
primary fermentation, our beers are loggered in a tank for
(29:23):
as long as twenty one days in the case of
the famous Budweiser. I've heard of that twenty one days. Um.
During the aging process, the beer is still fermating slightly
and builds up c O two in the tank. This
is how our beer is carbonated, all natural, so similar
to the priming homebrew and bottles and uh that's it,
(29:45):
he says, have a four twenty on me and I'll
pick up the tab next time in Atlanta. No, you
send us the money first, and then we'll go have
a four twenty and you That's what I say, David.
Thanks David. We appreciate in advance the money you'll send
us for our four twenties. Yes, and also I wanted
to point out when we were talking about our favorite beers,
I was sort of snobby with all my I p
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a s and all that stuff. I do love all that,
but the triumvirate for me has been my staple since college,
which is Budweiser, Miller Highlight, and the Pats. I like, yeah,
I like all those. I'm fun with those, and I
don't drink those as much anymore because I love the
taste of like a delicious I p A. But I
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certainly don't turn my nose up at a Budweiser. Okay, well,
then you're definitely not a beer snobble, No, not, you
like the drinking poop? Remember those kids in college? Did
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How are you, sir? I'm pretty good your papers? Please? No?
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What is that you know? Into pol is that you
sounded like? Um? The little Asian man who gives the
box to Pinhead, the man who eventually becomes Pinhead. What
does y'all plasias? Uh? That's kind of who you're wanting
to be. Well, then that's what I was doing. Good one,
My first good impression yet. The guy has interpoll written
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all over him, he's got a he's got an orange
notice out on him. I'll bet you green. We'll get
on that later. Chuck. I'm pretty much sure you had
nothing to do with this, so you may not have
heard about it. Um. Back in two thousand eleven about
this time. March two thousand eleven, inter Poll, the international
(01:27):
police organization, cracked a UM child pedophile ring, the biggest
one ever really centered on a website I guess appropriately
enough called boy lover dot net run out of Amsterdam.
Boy lover dot net is just a straight up legitimate
(01:48):
gay porn site, but there was a forum there with
like seventy thousand members with that like said, well, hey,
you're you're into this kind of thing too, huh Um,
I got a video that you're gonna love, and I
also have a little boy that I'm gonna mail to you.
So this wasn't affiliated with the website. No, they're just
using one of the forums as a meeting place for pedophiles.
(02:11):
But Interpol busted these guys up, rescued UM two and
thirty kids, arrested a hundred and eight four UM suspects
just in the first sweet pretty much in thirty countries. Yeah,
good for them, It is good for them. It's just
one of the many victories and triumphs over pederasty that
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Interpol can boast. That's right, and not just pederasty, like
all sorts of huge international crimes. Anytime there's a crime
syndicate or a ring. You need to watch out because
Interpoll's watching you. Into Poll is right behind you. Why
does y'all plasia? Uh? And this was actually fans generated this. Um.
(02:52):
This came on Facebook like three days ago. Oh really,
I wish i'd have got the guy's name. Some kid
was like, hey, can you do one interpoll? And I went, yeah, sure, sure.
He wasn't talking about the band. He might have been.
They still around. Yeah, they're still around. H yeah they are. Yeah,
I don't I don't know what they're doing these days.
I'm not a fan, so I don't know. Dude, how
do you not like Inner Pole? Just like listen to
(03:14):
their music and it didn't sit right in my ears.
I'm surprised. I thought, like everybody like Dinner Pole. Yeah,
they're just good. Yeah, yeah, do you think all right?
INTERPOL the International Criminal Police Organization or i c PO,
or if you're in France or their headquartered, you might
call it the Organists Organist Internacional de Police criminal very nice,
(03:38):
which is pretty much the same thing and different word order.
I didn't know this, but criminal is feminine. Oh yeah, yeah,
I didn't realize that they like the ladies. Yes, all right, So,
as you said, Josh, they are an international UM fully autonomous,
not affiliated with any single country or inization. I think
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they're a hundred eighty six countries nine now, and they
all contribute to the to the budget, to the kitty
based on their size and their g d P and
some other factors. It's very it's very fair, um, but
it's very important, like you said, that they're not beholden
to any one country, UM and that they remain neutral,
(04:20):
and they don't and they don't engage in any um
any investigations into political stuff things UM contributing or being
centered on race or um religion. That's right. My brain
is now working today. My brain is uh so what
(04:41):
they do, Josh, you just said what they don't do?
What they do do, uh terrorism, sexual terrorism like nobody,
sexual abuse, especially with children, which is what you just
talked about. UM, organized crime, international fugitives, computer crime, UM stolen,
aren't money laundering, human trafficking, illegal drugs, smuggling, environmental crime,
(05:08):
anything that crosses international borders. Almost you're gonna find into
pol helping helping out with But and you said the
magic phrase helping out like interpoll doesn't have they don't
run around like arresting guys. Place back guys. It is
interpoll UM and they they don't have interpolled jail, as
(05:28):
a Grabanowski points out, UM. But what they do is
they serve as this international meeting point for UM already
established national agencies. Right, So let's let's do a little scenario.
I'm FBI agent Todd Ridgeway of the des Moines, IOWA
Field office, and your agent, Vinny Testaverity of the Politia
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Destado in Italy, and I believe a terrorist is UM
hiding out near your fel Old office in Genoa. So
I'm calling you up like ring ring. This is Todd Ridgeway.
I'm with the FBI in Des Moines. Hey, Todd, this
is Vinny tes So. And see what Chuck just demonstrated
(06:16):
was how it doesn't work because Vinny Testaverdi doesn't speak
a look of English and Todd Ridgeway doesn't speak any Italian. Right.
And not only that, he shouldn't have been calling Vinny Testaverdi,
he should have been calling Giuseppe de Bikono UM, who's
with the local police, because that's what the Italian UM
(06:38):
police bureaucracy protocol calls for but he has no idea, no,
so what does he do? He calls into POTE that's right,
and they step up and they're like, you know, he
need to get in touch with You need to get
in touch with Vinny Testa, Verdie's cousin who works for
the state police over there, the Polizza but Italy, because
(06:58):
there who's handling this case. Here's their number. In fact,
let me go ahead and patch it through. But not
only that, I'm gonna and I'm going to translate for you. Um. Yeah,
So they're the interpoll Um. Interpol has what are called
National Central Bureaus national country Bureaus no National Central Bureaus
n CBS, and that's like an FBI field office, but
(07:20):
they have them in different countries around the world, and
they serve as liaisons for the local or state or
national police with the same their counterparts in other countries.
That's the big one. Yea. It gets you know when
you it's it's complicated enough within these United States with
jurisdictions and protocol, but when you open it up to
the world, boy, it gets all kinds of crazy. So
(07:42):
luckily into poll is there you've been any peing contests well,
they probably tried to, but them should they exist? Um.
Their big deal is their databases, because the FBI and
the CIA, why they might all have like and whatever
your country's databases are crime databases, they probably just extend
(08:04):
to that country, unless it's like some sort of database
on terrorism. UM interpolls. Databases are away extensive. They circle
the globe and they can track criminals pretty much anywhere
and everywhere. Fingerprints, mug shots, wanted people, DNA, you name it. UM.
(08:25):
They have a they have a database just of lost
lost in stolen travel documents. It's got more than like
twelve million files to it. Yeah. I think I saw
somewhere today too that they said most people don't try
and recover those, which I thought was interesting. Well, I
imagine like if you lose your passport, you're probably traveling
abroad and yeah, you're not getting that back. You never
(08:47):
know unless you go. Yeah, yeah, they could have your
stuff because who knows, they could that could have been
stolen to be used in some trafficking syndicate. It's true,
and your name could be all drug all through the
mud on boilover dot net. UM. The the database that
they are, the databases that they maintain or are their own,
(09:09):
but they're open and their access through this UM communications
net we're called I seven. That's something because inter poll
is UM. They're open seven three even on Christmas. They're
fully operational. Really, they don't close down like all the
police do here on Christmas. No, because think about it, man, UM, Well, yes,
I get your joke, but I mean think about the
(09:30):
skeleton crews that go down. I think inter polls open
all the time because they cross all all UM time
zones at all times. Yeah, so they kind of have
to be ready to go all the time because you know,
while one guy sleeping, the criminals in one country are sleeping,
their wide awake and carrying out bad activities in another.
That's true. What else can they do, josh? Oh? They
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serve that seven is also a place where you can
access another country's databases. So there's those those nationally bound
database has become international through this portal and interpal overseas
all of that, so they know what's going on. UM.
They also, let's say there's an international disaster of some sort,
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like a terrorist attack, assassination, UM, they can send an
incident response team UM generally coordinated through the U N.
If there's some sort of actually a natural disaster like
the tsunami efforts, they can send people down there to
help UM identify people and look for missing persons. UH,
protect kids, because I can guarantee you there are a
(10:34):
lot of pedophiles who traveled to Indonesia after that tsunami.
That's right. That's crazy, man, that's just that's awful. Imagine
like losing your parents, being seven, suddenly an orphan, and
then now there's some guy who's like, hey, you're coming
to Holland with me. You're like, no, I'm not. He's like, yeah,
you really are. Well, you don't understand what he's saying.
(10:55):
He just offers you the lolly in a in a
car ride. Yeah. Very sad. But thanks to interpoll things
like that are being thwarted. Uh. And I saw there's
two types of incident response teams UM. They have the
criminal type and the disaster type UM and but they
both serve in an advisory capacity and they show up
(11:18):
with their database like I can get you into. They
can act as a central command. Though if local authorities say, hey,
we need your help to act as central command, help
us out with logistics. UM. I think the Grabster said
in two thousand five they did that twelve times once
a month. Not bad. Dust off the old work and shoes. Yeah,
(11:41):
like get out the field. Yeah, time to get out
of bed. How's it? Structure? Josh, Well, I'll tell you.
Interpoll is made up of a General Assembly in which
each of the member nations has one delegate and one
vote thanks a love sense. They meet once a year
and they vote on all the big stuff, which kind
of makes it a slow, lumbering bureaucracy unless they invest
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a lot of authority into the Executive Committee, which is
the thirteen member committee that basically carries out all the
administrative functions of Interpol. And they are elected, as is
the Secretary General, although it saysn't here appointed. That's all elected.
Oh yeah, yeah, now he's elected because um I saw
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this guy, Ronald K. Noble. He got an overwhelming elegy
of the vote for his second reelection. So he's in
his third term, first time ever. Yeah, which is I
think he's running from under this current term. And he
is the first American secretary general if I'm not mistaken right,
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And he's the first three time secretary general too. Then
a lot of frenchie's I think I saw one, uh Englishman. Yeah,
and uh, there's definitely one German cause there was some
controversy with that. I believe the president is Korean, now, okay,
not to be confused with the secretary general. The president
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is beneath him, right. The Secretary General is who actually
runs the day to day show, right, and he's headquartered
um in the General Secretariat, which is the main headquarters
in Leon, France. That's right, um. And then there's other
there's regional offices. There's six of them, the sixth of
which is in New York, and that's the special Liaison
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under the u N. Because Interpoll very wisely got in
with the u N because like this body has some
staying power. That's right. We're gonna become friendly with them.
You can also find these place offices in Argentina, El Salvador, Thailand, Kenya,
Zimbabwe and Cote Dvoir. Very nice, Thank you? Did you
(13:52):
practice in No? Just it's lovely name that I've said
it many use myself. Yet it means the um coast
devoir in French. Okay. You mentioned that we all all
member countries chip in for the budget. UM. The budget
is not a lot, though, compared to like any budget
(14:13):
in the United States. I think in two thousand seven,
um the grabster pointed it at roughly sixty one million
dollars US or forty four a million euros, which I
wonder what that's equal to now, two thousand seven dollars
to two thousand eleven. But it's a big change. I
should have looked up the current budget actually failed to.
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It's okay, Chuck, let's talk about the notices. So this
is their other big thing. Um. They don't just sit
around and and wait to be asked for help. They
also disseminate information, and they do it through color coded notices.
They've got, Um, let's see what is the nine? Eight?
Think seven? Okay, so they have eight now because they
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added another one after this after the Stephen. Yes, um,
and the different color codes mean different things. So you're
going to get via teletype possibly facts or maybe even email.
You'll get like some sort of maybe a PDF document
of um, say Orange basically says like, hey, we've got
we have pretty good idea that there's an imminent threat
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and it's this guy and he's wearing this coat and
he's got a bomb. Yeah. So that if you get
an orange one, your head better perk up and you
need to look closely. That's right. Black is unidentified bodies.
That's the same one. That's the sattus of all notices
UM yellow missing persons. It's probably second status, uh green
general information and warnings about major criminals. So this one
(15:45):
is kind of it. Um, that's pretty vague. High well,
it highlights another function that they have. UM that it
wasn't explicitly stated in this article, but I gleaned using
my powers of deduction, that they have analysts who crunch
all this data, who poured through databasis, look at crime trends,
look at criminal trends, and then um come up with
(16:05):
basically just general notices. When they're sitting around with some
time on their hands, they issue green notices that say like, hey,
here's another angle to a case that you might not
have thought of. For interesting, have you met this guy.
Here's all the bad stuff he's done. He may be
in your neighborhood, right, that kind of thing, And the
local authorities say, yeah, yeah, interval, we got we know
you've got some time on your hand. Very nice, thank you.
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The blue notice Josh is um individuals of interest related
to a crime, including the possible witnesses or suspects or
persons of interest. Is a good umbrella term for those
kinds of people your crime that's already been comming, people
who ran with the wrong crowd, where at the wrong place,
in the wrong time, and didn't stick around. On an
international level, that's right. Red. Recently, Mr Juliana Sans was
(16:55):
issued at the red notice, which means you are wanted
and it's sort of like a world wide a PB.
You gotta keep that. You print it out and put
it on your wall. What a red inner pole notice
on you? Oh yeah, got two find of his. I'll
bet he kept his thin I'll bet he's one of
(17:15):
the few who did. With photoshop though, I mean, you
can never tell if it's real or not. You or
I could make our own. I mean we should do that.
Why not have a feeling one's coming your way. UH
interpoll notice which is not a color. That was scary
to me because it was the only one that's not
a color unless the new one you talked about. It
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is not a color. The Interpol notice means, um, it's
a U n UH Security Council Special notice, meaning groups
of individuals involved with al Qaeda or the Taliban or
at work. Yeah, people who have UN sanctions on them. Um.
Then there's now the Purple notice, which, um, basically it's
(17:58):
kind of like a green notice. It's like, hey, be
aware of this kind of stuff that's going on, but
it's about what people are doing, like international criminal trans
Like do you remember I think they were like pen guns.
There was like just a few years back, there was
like a pen that could shoot and it was very
low powered. But I think inter Poll sent out a
(18:19):
notice on this, like, hey, you guys need to be
aware that this thing's out there. Okay, well, inter Poll
probably inspired the writer. Interesting, it was a comedy too.
I guarantee Interpoll inspired the writer. It was pretty funny.
It was Fred red Ward, Fred Warder, Fred Willard fred
Ward Okay, the time writer Remo Williams. Yeah, he had
(18:42):
a he had a pen gun and shot at dude
in the neck. It was kind of funny. What movie
was it, Uh, thirty Minutes or Less with Danny McBride
and uh, it was good. The guy who played Facebook
he laid Facebook Mark, Yeah, the Jesse Eisenberg there, they
were both in that. It was sort of funny, but
not highly recommended. But that scene was funny because Fred
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Willards like, you think it's a pen and all of
sudden need to shoot the stude in the neck with it.
That's funny. Um, that's high comedy. Yeah, it was very much. Um.
I watched Inside Man again last night. That's such a
good movie. Which one is that Spike Lee heist movie
with Clive Owens that dude, really Yeah, you hadn't seen
it either. I made it watch the last night. She's like,
(19:24):
this is a good movie. That's one of the few
Spike Lee movies I have not seen. It's see that
all right? Have you seen twenty Yeah that's a good
one too. Yeah. I think Inside Man hasn't beaten all right.
So yeah, Purple is just basically like information on new
types of criminal activity that people need to be made
aware of, like pen guns, gotcha and Fred Ward, But
(19:46):
the pen gun was a real warning or a real
purple warning. Notice, I don't know. I'm just assuming I'm
using example. So let's talk about the history of interpoll Chuck.
It has a strange, tumultuous history that closely fall It
was the tumult of the twentieth century if you ask me, Yeah,
and Ed kind of breeze right over the whole Nazi
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part of it. There's been a lot of controversy over that. Actually,
oh yeah, why are they accused of colluding? Well, let's
back up. They were formed and being in Austria, uh,
during World War Two. Ed says they were interrupted when
the Nazis took control, deposed the Secretary General moved to
(20:26):
Berlin for a short time, but then after the war
everything was rebuilt, they moved to Paris, and that's kind
of all he said. I looked a little further into it,
and it's pretty uh, pretty controversial those years, UM, when
it was under Nazi rule. Obviously, Uh, they shared headquarters
with the Gestapo, officially operated UM as a division within
(20:48):
the Nazi Security Police, and to Nazi war criminals were
the agency's presidents during the wartime. Plus they overspent on
Christmas partes. Uh. And then this A read a Times
article and some of the comments back to the editorial said,
(21:09):
you guys even kind of whitewashed it because after the
war they refused to take part in the sixties and
seventies in any of the Nazi war crime hunting, war
criminal hunts. Uh wow, I had no idea, Chuck, I'm
really glad you did this. Yeah. And then uh in
nineteen their president uh to seventy two was Paul Dickkop
(21:32):
and he was an s S officer. No, he was
and remained president despite them finding out about this and
knowing about this, and that was pretty controversial. Toe, I'll
bet you don't usually want Nazis leading your organization former
Nazis either, no, you know what I'm saying. Once the Nazi,
always the Nazi in my opinion. Well, dip Cop was
(21:54):
the he was that the president for whatever four years. Yeah. Wow.
And a lot of people, a lot of people say
interpoll is like run without oversight and they have all
this access, but no one has access to their real
like how they do things the opposite of how grab
Minowski tells them. Yeah, it's a little more controversial than
(22:16):
I thought. Wants to start poking around. Well, I I
guess it was probably the VHS tapes that started to
bring them out of the dark and into uh, I
guess a brighter role. Remember the Interpol warning on old
video cassettes? Now was that interval? Oh yeah, and now
it's like an FBI warring. But before and every once
in a while you'll still see it like Interpol warning
it's again like copyright theft and piracy. Um. But yeah,
(22:40):
apparently they now are they've shed themselves of Nazis and
have a third term Secretary General who's busting pedophiles in Amsterdam.
And did you pretty I think that's good? I'm saying,
oh yeah, yeah, they've they've apparently tried to clean up
their image a lot since those days. It's crazy, man um.
(23:00):
And you did you hear about the executive order Obama
signed and oh nine, it was pretty controversial among conservatives
because little background. The International Organization and Immunities Act in
ninety five was signed into law, and basically that meant
the president could say certain organizations international organizations that worked
(23:22):
in the US are exempted from certain things like taxes,
search and sees or laws. And pretty much every president
has said you can be a part of this, like
the Red Cross Reagan UH in nineteen eighty three included
interpoll Um as part of that group. Songs like four
different sections dealing with property taxes, social security, federal taxes, customs, duties,
(23:49):
and UH having property and assets searched and confiscated then
and O nine, Obama said those four things now you're
immune from as well, so you have full immunity Interpoll
does in the United States from these things. And conservatives
got up in arms about, you know, the fact that
Obama had signed this. They tend to get up in
(24:11):
army anything he signed, like his his dinner check. Uh.
But then people rallied back and said, well, you know,
I thought you wanted someone tough on crime, and he's
basically saying Interpoll has more rights to do their thing
in the United States. So which way do you want it?
Or do you just want to complain about everything that
he does? Uh? And the Obama administration said that, you
(24:34):
know what, this really didn't give them any more free
reign than Reagan had already given them an eighty three.
It is sort of finished up what he started. So
who knows, regardless regardless of which side you sit on
on the political aisle, Obama is the new Reagan the
end you got any more? Uh. Some successes. You talked
(24:57):
about the tsunami in two thousand four, UM, and they
your pedophile scenario. It's pretty big, not yours thirty countries,
that's pretty huge. UM. They helped identify and capture a
Serbian war criminal, Milan Lukic Luci Luke. I bet it's
(25:18):
lukach Uh in Argentina, coordinating between Argentina and Chile and
uh Bosnia Herzegovina. Yeah. Um, and let's see. Uh. They
they also had one, Um you remember the Madrid train bombings. Man,
I had forgotten about those ninety people. Um, and they
(25:41):
managed to catch at least one guy. They they found
twenty one guilty, but the interpoll called at least one
guy through coordination between Belgrade, Baghdad and Madrid offices. And
did you know the twenty one people who were found
guilty of that got to combine forty thousand years in prison. Really, yeah,
he'll probably never get out. No, no, I don't think
(26:04):
they're gonna get out. And then grabs Her pointed this
one out. A response team obtained and disseminated fingerprints and
photographs of Abu Musab al al Zarkawi. Yeah, which sounds
kind of whatever. But then you're like, oh, yeah, how
would you get that guys? I guess yeah, I thought
the same thing, and then I thought twice. I was like, now,
I guess that is a pretty big deal. It's worth mentiny. Yeah. Sure,
(26:26):
I didn't find a lot of stuff though that searched
for more. Yeah, same here. And I think they're sort
of behind the scenes that they're like, we're not gonna
have any big arrests because we don't do that. Um,
but we're involved in a lot of those on the
back end on their website, UM, which is a pretty cool,
user friendly website. Agreed. It's like, here's a lot of
information that's very vague. Yeah, like we have two kinds
(26:48):
of response teams, criminal and disaster, and that's all we're
gonna say about that. That kind of thing. And you know,
I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anymore about their controversies.
I'm curious, does your dad work at Interpoll? We want
to know, Um, you got anything else? So if you
want to learn more about inter Poll and and read
a very glowing review of their life and work, very glossy,
(27:12):
whitewashed review, UM, you can type in interpol I N
T E R P O L. And did we say
where they got the name? I don't think we did.
I don't think so. So with the advent of telegraph communications,
they're like man we need to uh, we need to
shorten this or else people aren't gonna waste the money
with Western Union talking about us, so they shorten their
(27:35):
name to Interpol. Instead of the longer I c OP.
They should just call i CP. Yeah, I COP. Yeah yeah, Well,
don't type I guess you could type I COP into
the search probably some mac Apple app now that allows
you to like make citizens arrest. Um, that's a good one. Thanks,
(27:58):
we should go make that. Um. Well, yeah, type I
COP in the search bar. How stuff works dot com?
And I said search bar, It just didn't you know it,
which means it's time for listener now, Josh, I'm gonna
call this uh uhm. A brewer for Anheuser Busch. Wow,
it's a big, big time one of the big daddies. Hey, guys,
(28:18):
just finished listening to the Beer podcast and felt compelled
to write. I used to live in Atlanta and missed
the Beer Senior, a dream of the brick store pub
every third night. I'm a beer geek homebrewer, and also
happened to now brew beer for Annheuser Busch UM also
now known as a b in Bev. As was mentioned
in the podcast, it's a pretty sweet gig that all
(28:40):
started for me by homebrewing in my Atlanta apartment closet. Crazy. UM.
I enjoyed the podcast a lot, and you were pretty
spot on with the info and brewing one on one,
except for the mention of forced carbonation. UM, I have
worked because I think we said that that the big
breweries like forced carbonate everything not so UM. I've worked
a couple of crap berries aside from my current job
(29:02):
at Anheuser Busch, and I had never seen this before.
I can't speak for the other big guys, but our
beer at ANH Anheuser Busch is made pretty much the
same way as other small craft beers. We just have
much larger equipment and more automation at Anheuser Busch. After
primary fermentation, our beers are loggered in a tank for
(29:23):
as long as twenty one days in the case of
the famous Budweiser. I've heard of that twenty one days. Um.
During the aging process, the beer is still fermating slightly
and builds up c O two in the tank. This
is how our beer is carbonated, all natural, so similar
to the priming homebrew and bottles and uh that's it,
(29:45):
he says, have a four twenty on me and I'll
pick up the tab next time in Atlanta. No, you
send us the money first, and then we'll go have
a four twenty and you That's what I say, David.
Thanks David. We appreciate in advance the money you'll send
us for our four twenties. Yes, and also I wanted
to point out when we were talking about our favorite beers,
I was sort of snobby with all my I p
(30:06):
a s and all that stuff. I do love all that,
but the triumvirate for me has been my staple since college,
which is Budweiser, Miller Highlight, and the Pats. I like, yeah,
I like all those. I'm fun with those, and I
don't drink those as much anymore because I love the
taste of like a delicious I p A. But I
(30:26):
certainly don't turn my nose up at a Budweiser. Okay, well,
then you're definitely not a beer snobble, No, not, you
like the drinking poop? Remember those kids in college? Did
you know anybody in college you could like recite what
it said on the neck label of the Budweiser bottle,
like what it says the writing. I didn't know anyone.
It's like, this is Budweiser, the finest beer ever produced
(30:47):
to Bud. I used to go to school with kids
who could recite that like by heart, and I always
thought it was kind of sad. Yeah, I didn't even know.
I've never even read the bottle. It's easier if you
have like a beach towel because the lettering is way
bigger and see. Oh and I also got called out
by a fans for being a hipster for drinking HAPs
and I was like, dude, I've been drinking PBR since
(31:09):
like and it amused me when it became a hipster beer.
I was like, really, it blows my mind how much
we share ourselves and how much we have been the
four plus episodes, and there's so many people out there
who do not know us at all. So um, I
guess if you want to offer us money for beer,
(31:30):
that's cool, or you can just send us beer. We're
not done with that call out yet. I'm not a
shame over money. Sure, you can tweet to us to
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