February 16, 2019 • 33 mins
Interpol is an international police agency that helps other law-enforcement agencies track criminals who operate across national borders -- but how does it work, exactly? Join the guys as they delve into the world of global law enforcement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning everyone. I hope you've enjoyed your breakfast cereal,
your Saturday morning cartoons, and now it's time for a
little learning from two thousand twelve. My select pick for
this week is Interpol colon World Police, because why not.
I never knew much about interpoll at all actually before
we did this podcast, and I learned quite a bit myself,
(00:20):
and I think you will too. So if you haven't
listened to it, I hope you enjoy it. If you have,
give it another world. Here we go with Interpol. Right now,
welcome to Stuff you should Know from House Stuff Works
dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.
(00:42):
There's Charles W. Chuke Bryant. Uh. And since you put
the two of us together with microphones as we are now,
uh and press records, you get stuff you should know.
That's right. A little podcast, just a little podcast, squsty
little podcast made it sell it? Coom, how are you, sir?
I'm pretty good your papers? Please? No? What is that
(01:07):
you know into Pol? Is that you sounded like? Um
the little Asian man who gives the box to Pinhead,
the man who eventually becomes Pinhead watches y'all plasias. Uh,
that's kind of who you want. Well, then that's what
I was doing. Good ones, my first good impression. Yet.
The guy has Interpol written all over him, he's got
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a he's got an orange notice out on him. I'll
bet you green. We'll get on that later, Chuck. Yes,
I'm pretty much percent sure you had nothing to do
with this, so you may not have heard about it, okay. Um.
Back in two thousand eleven, about this time March two
thousand eleven, inter POL, the international police organization, cracked a
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um child pedophile ring. Nice the biggest one ever really
centered on a website I guess appropriately enough called boy
lover dot net run out of Amsterdam. Boy lover dot
net is just a straight up legitimate gay porn site,
but there was a forum there with like seventy thousand
(02:16):
members with that like said, well, hey, you're you're into
this kind of thing too, huh Um, I got a
video that you're gonna love, and I also have a
little boy that I'm gonna mail to you. So this
wasn't affiliated with the website. No, they're just using one
of the forums as a meeting place for pedophiles. But
Interpol busted these guys up rescued UM two and thirty
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kids arrested a hundred and eight four UM suspects just
in the first sweep and pretty much in thirty countries. Yeah,
good for them, It is good for them. It's just
one of the many victories and triumphs over PEDERASTI that
Interpol can boast. That's right, and not just pederasty. Like
all sorts of huge international crimes. Anytime there's a crime
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syndicate or a ring, you need to watch out because
inner Poles watching you. Into Pol is right behind you.
What does you'll pla uh? And this was actually fan
generated this um. This came on Facebook like three days ago.
Oh really, I wish I would have got the guy's name.
Some kid was like, hey, can you do one Interpol?
And I went, yeah sure? Are you sure? He wasn't
(03:24):
talking about the band he might have been. Are they
still around? Yeah? They're still around? Uh yeah they're yeah.
I don't I don't know what they're doing these days.
I'm not a fan, so I don't know, dude, how
do you not like Interpol? There? Just like listen to
their music and it didn't sit right in my ears.
I'm surprised. I thought, like everybody like the Inner Pole. Yeah,
they're just good. Yeah, yeah, do you think all right?
(03:46):
INTERPOL the International Criminal Police Organization or i c p O,
or if you're in France or their headquartered, you might
call it the Organists Organist Internacion the police criminal very nice,
which is pretty much the same thing and different word order.
I didn't know this, but criminal is feminine. Oh yeah, yeah,
(04:10):
I didn't realize that they like the ladies. Yess alright, So,
as you said, Josh, they are an international um, fully autonomous,
not affiliated with any single country organization. I think they're
a hundred eighty six countries nine now and they all
contribute to the to the budget to the kittie based
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on their size and their g d P and some
other factors. Like it's very it's very fair, um, but
it's very important, like you said, that they're not beholden
to any one country um, and that they remain neutral
and they don't and they don't engage in any um
any investigations into political stuff things um contributing or being
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centered on race or um religion. That's right, My brain
is now working today. My brain is uh so what
they do Josh, you just said what they don't do.
What they do do, uh terrorism, sexually do terrorism like
nobody else, sexual abuse, especially with children, which is what
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you just talked about. UM, organized crime, international fugitives, computer crime, UM,
stolen art, money laundering, human trafficking, illegal drugs, smuggling, environmental crime,
anything that crosses international borders. Almost you're gonna find into
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polar helping helping out with But you said the magic
phrase helping out like interpoll doesn't have. They don't run
around like arresting guys phrase bad guys. It is interpoll
UM and they they don't have interpolled jail, as a
Grabanowski points out, UM. But what they do is they
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serve as this international meeting point for UM already established
national agencies. Right, So let's let's do a little scenario.
I'm FBI Agent Todd Ridgeway of the Des Moines, Iowa
Field office, and your agent Vinny Testaverity of the Politia
di Stato in Italy, and I believe a terrorist is
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UM hiding out near your field office in Genoa. So
I'm calling you up. I'm like ring ring, This is
Todd Ridgeway. I'm with the FBI. In Des Moines. Hey, Todd,
this is so. And see what Chuck just demonstrated was
how it doesn't work because Vinny Testaverdi doesn't speak a
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look of English and Todd Ridgeway doesn't speak any Italian. Right.
And not only that, he shouldn't have been calling Vinny Testaverdi.
He should have been calling Giuseppe de Bikono um who's
with the local police, because is that's what the Italian
um police bureaucracy protocol calls for. But he has no idea, no,
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So what does he do? He calls into pot that's right,
and they step up and they're like, you know, you
need to get in touch with you need to get
in touch with any test of Verdie's cousin who works
for the state police over there, the Polizza but Italy,
because there who's handling this case. Here's their number. In fact,
let me go ahead and patch it through. But not
only that, I'm going and I'm going to translate for you. Um. Yeah,
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so they're the interpoll Um. Interpol has what are called
National Central Bureaus national country Bureaus, no National Central Bureaus
n CBS, and that's like an FBI field office. But
They have them in different countries around the world, and
they serve as liaisons for the local or state or
national police with the same their counterparts in other countries.
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That's the big one. Yeah, it gets you know when
you it's it's complicated enough within the United States with
jurisdictions and protocol, but when you open it up to
the world, boy, it gets all kinds of crazy. So
luckily intopol Is there any peeing contests, Well, they probably
try to, but them should they exist? Um, Their big
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deal is their databases, because the FBI and the CIA,
why they might all have like and whatever your country's
databases are, crime databases, they probably just extend to that country,
unless it's like some sort of database on terrorism. Um. Interpolls.
Databases are away extensive. They circle the globe and they
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can track criminals pretty much anywhere and everywhere. Fingerprints, mug shots,
wanted people, DNA, you name it. Um. They have a
they have a database just of lost, lost in stolen
travel documents that's got more than like twelve million files
to it. Yeah. I think I saw somewhere to too
that they said most people don't try and recover those,
(09:03):
which I thought was interesting. Yeah, well, I imagine like
if you lose your passport, you're probably traveling abroad and
they're you're not getting that back. You never know unless
you go. Yeah, yeah, they could have your stuff because
who knows that kuld that could have been stolen to
be used in some trafficking syndicate. It's true, and your
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name could be all drug all through the mud um
boilover dot net. That's right. UM. The the database that
they are, the databases that they maintain or are their own,
but they're open and their access through this UM communications
net we're called seven. That's kind of cool something because
inter poll is um. They're open seven three even on Christmas.
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They're fully operational. Really, they don't close down like all
the police do here on Christmas. No, because think about it, man, Um,
well yes I get your joke, but I mean think
about the skeleton crews that go down. I think inter
Polls open all the time because they cross all all
UM time zones at all times. Yeah, so they kind
of have to be ready to go all the time
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because you know, while one guy is sleeping, the criminals
in one country are sleeping their wide awake and carrying
out bad activities and another. That's true. What else can
they do, josh? Oh? They serve that seven is also
a place where you can access another country's databases. So
this those those nationally bound databases become international through this portal,
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and Interval oversees all of that, so they know what's
going on. UM. They also, let's say there's an international
disaster of some sort, like a terrorist attack, assassination, UM,
they can send an incident response team UM generally coordinated
through the u N. If there's some sort of actually
a natural disaster like the tsunami efforts, they can send
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people down there to help UM identify people and look
for missing persons, UH, protect kids, because I can guarantee
you there are a lot of pedophiles who traveled who
Indonesia after that tsunami. That's right. That's crazy, man, that's
just that's awful. Imagine like losing your parents, being seven,
suddenly an orphan, and then now there's some guy who's like, hey,
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you're coming to Holland with me. You're like, no, I'm not.
He's like, yeah, you really are. Well, you know you
understand what he's saying. He just offers you the lolly
in a in a car ride. Yeah, very sad. Uh.
But thanks to Interpoll, things like that are being thwarted.
And I saw there's two types of incident response teams. Um.
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They have the criminal type and the disaster type. Um.
And but they both serve in an advisory capacity and
they show up with their database right like I can
get you into you need me. Uh. They can act
as a central command though if local authorities say, hey,
we need your help to act to central command help
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us out with logistics. Um. I think the grabs are
said in two thousand five they did that twelve time. Yeah,
once a month, not bad. Dust off the old work
and shoes, yeah, like get off the field, yeah, time
to get out of bed. How does it structure, Josh, Well,
I'll tell you. Interpoll is made up of a general
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Assembly in which each of the member nations has one
delegate and one vote. Makes a lot of sense. They
meet once a year and they vote on all the
big stuff, which kind of makes it a slow lumbering
bureaucracy unless they invest a lot of authority into the
Executive Committee, which is a thirteen member committee that basically
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carries out all the administrative functions of inter Poll. And
they are elected, right, as is the Secretary General, although
it saysn't here appointed. I saw elected. Oh yeah, yeah,
now he's elected because um, I saw this guy, Ronald K. Noble.
He got an overwhelminglergy of the vote for his second reelection.
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So he's in his third term, first time ever, yeah,
which is still I think he's running from under this
current term. And he is the first American secretary general
if I'm not mistaken, right, yeah, And he's the first
three time secretary general too. Then a lot of frenchie's.
I think I saw one uh Englishman, Yeah, and uh,
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there's definitely one German because there was some controversy with that.
I believe the president is Korean, now, okay, not to
be confused with the secretary General. The president is beneath him, right.
The Secretary General is who actually runs the day to
day show, right. And he's headquartered, um in the General Secretariat,
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which is the main headquarters in Leon, France. That's right, um.
And then there's other there's some regional offices. There's six
of them, the sixth of which is in New York
and that's the Special liais under the u N Because
Interpol very wisely got in with the u N because
like this body has some staying power. That's right, We're
gonna become friendly with them. You can also find these
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place offices in Argentina, El Salvador, Thailand, Kenya, Zimbabwe and
quote their very nice did you practice in No, I
just it's name that I've said it many myself. It
means the um coast Devoir in French. Okay, uh, you
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mentioned that we all all the member countries chipping for
the budget. Um. The budget is not a lot, though,
compared to like any budget in the United States. I
think in two thousand seven the grabster pointed it at
roughly sixty one million dollars US or forty four a
million euros, which I wonder what that's equal to now
(15:09):
two thousand seven dollars to two thousand eleven. But it's
a big change. I should have looked up the current budget.
Actually you should fail. It's okay, Chuck, Let's talk about
the notices. So this is their other big thing. Um.
They don't just sit around and and wait to be
asked for help. They also disseminate information and they do
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it through color coded notices. They've got. Um, let's see
what is the nine, eight seven. Okay, so they have
eight now because they added another one after this, after
this even yes, UM, and the different color codes mean
different things. So you're going to get via teletype possibly
facts or maybe even email. You'll get like some sort
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of maybe a PDF document of UM, say, orange basically
says like, hey, we've got we have pretty good idea
that there's an imminent threat and it's this guy and
he's wearing this coat and he's got a dirty bring
a bomb. Yeah, so that if you get an orange one,
your head better perk up and you need to look closely.
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That's right. Black is unidentified bodies. That's a sad one.
That's the saddest of all notices. UM Yellow missing persons.
It's probably the second status uh green general information and
warnings about major criminals. So this one is kind of it. UM,
that's pretty vague. High well, it highlights another function that
they have UM that it wasn't explicitly stated in this article,
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but I gleaned using my powers of deduction, that they
have analysts who crunch all this data, who poured through databases,
look at crime trends, look at criminal trends, and then
UM come up with basically just general notices. When they're
sitting around with some time on their hands, they issue
green notices that say, like, hey, here's another angle to
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a case that you might not have thought of. Interesting.
Have you met this guy. Here's all the bad stuff
he's done. He may be in your neighborhood, right, that
kind of thing, And the local authorities say, yeah, yeah, interval,
we got we know you've got some time on your hand. Exactly,
very nice, thank you. The blue notice, Josh is um
individuals of interest related to a crime, including the possible
witnesses or suspects or persons of interest, is a good
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umbrella term for those kinds of people. Your crime that's
already been comming. People who ran with the wrong crowd.
We're at the wrong place in the wrong time and
didn't stick around. Yeah. On an international level, that's right. Red. Recently,
Mr Juliana Sans was issued the red notice, which means
you are wanted and it's sort of like a worldwide
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a PB. You gotta keep that. You print it out
and put it on your wall. What a red inner
pol notice on you? Oh yeah, I got you. Although
although Sane probably wasn't too fond of his I'll bet
he kept his you think. I'll bet he's one of
the few who did. With photoshop though, I mean, you
can never tell if it's real or not. Like you
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or I could make our own. I maybe we should
do that. Why not. I have a feeling one's coming
our way. Uh. Interpoll notice, which is not a color.
That was scary to me because it was the only
one that's not a color. Unless the new one you
talked about is not a color, It's okay. The Interpol
notice means, um uh, it's a U n UH Security
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Council Special noticed, meaning groups of individuals involved with al
Qaeda or the Taliban or at work. Yeah, people who
have UN sanctions on them. Um. Then there's now the
Purple notice, which, um basically it's kind of like a
green notice. It's like, hey, be aware of this kind
of stuff that's going on, but it's about what people
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are doing, like international criminal trends. Like do you remember
I think they were like pen guns. There was like
just a few years back, there was like a pen
that could shoot and it was very low powered. But
I think inter Poll sent out a notice on this, like, hey,
you guys need to be aware that this thing's out
there I saw in the movie. Okay, well, inter Poll
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probably inspired the writer. Interesting, it was a comedy too.
I guarantee inter Poll inspired the writer. It was pretty funny.
It was Fred fred Ward, Fred Warder, Fred Willard, fred
Ward Okay, the time writer Remo Williams. Yeah, he had
a he had a pin gun and shot at dude
in the neck. It was kind of funny. What movie
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was it, Uh, thirty Minutes or less with Danny McBride
and uh, it was good. The guy who played Facebook,
he played Facebook, Mark Zucker, Yeah, the Jesse Eisenberg. They
were both in that. It was sort of funny but
not highly recommended. But that scene was funny because Fred
Willards like, you think it's a pen and all of
a sudden need to shoot this stude in the neck
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with it. That's funny. Um, that's high comedy. Yeah, it
was very much. Um. I watched Inside Man again last night.
That's such a good movie. Which one is that Spike
Lee heist movie with Clive Owens that dude really Yeah,
you hadn't seen it either. I made her watch you
last night. She's like, this is a good movie. That's
one of the few Spike Lea movies. I have not
(20:09):
seen It's see that, all right, have you seen? Yeah,
that's a good one too. I think inside Man hasn't
beaten all right. So yeah, Purple is just basically like
information on new types of criminal activity that people need
to be made aware of, Like pen guns, got you
and fred Ward, But the pen gun was a real warning.
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We're a real purple warning. Notice, I don't know, I'm
just assuming I'm using for example, got So let's talk
about the history of inter poll Chuck. It has a strange,
tumultuous history that closely follows the tumult of the twentieth
century if you ask me. Yeah, and Ed kind of
breeze right over the whole Nazi part of it. Yeah,
(20:50):
there's been a lot of controversy over that. Actually, oh yeah,
why are they accused of colluding? Well, let's back up.
They were formed and being in Austria, uh, during World
War two. Ed says they were interrupted when the Nazis
took control, deposed the Secretary General, moved to Berlin for
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a short time, but then after the war everything was rebuilt.
They moved to Paris, and that's kind of all he said.
I looked a little further into it, and it's pretty uh,
pretty controversial those years UM when it was under Nazi
rule obviously, Uh, they shared headquarters with the Gestapo, officially
operated UM as a division within the Nazi Security Police,
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and to Nazi war criminals were the agency's presidents during
the wartime. Plus they overspent on Christmas parties. Uh. And
then this I read a Times article and some of
the comments back to the editorial said, you guys even
kind of whitewashed it because after the war they refused
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to take part in the sixties and seventies in any
of the Nazi war crime hunting war criminal hunts. Crazy. Uh, wow,
I had no idea, Chuck, I'm really glad you did this. Yeah.
And then uh, in nineteen sixty eight, their president uh
to seventy two was Paul Dickkopp, and he was an
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s S officer. No, he was and remained president despite
them finding out about this and knowing about this, And
that was pretty controversial too. Jeez, I'll bet you don't
usually want Nazis leading your organization former Nazis either, No,
you know what I'm saying. Once a Nazi, always a
Nazi in my opinion, Well, dip cop was the he
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was that the president for whatever four years. Yeah, and
a lot of people, a lot of people say interpoll
is like run without oversight and they have all this access,
but no one has access to their real like how
they do things the opposite of how grab Minowski tells it. Yeah,
it's a little more controversial than I thought once start
(23:00):
poking around. Well, I I guess it was probably the
VHS tapes that started to bring them out of the
dark and into uh, I guess a brighter role. Remember
the Interpol warning on old video cassettes? Now was that interval?
Oh yeah, Now it's like an FBI warring but before
and every once in a while you'll still see it
like Interpol warning. It's again like copyright theft and piracy. Um.
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But yeah, apparently they now are they've shed themselves of
Nazis and have a third term Secretary General who's busting
pedophiles in Amsterdam. And did you pretty I think that's good.
I'm saying, oh yeah, yeah, they they've apparently tried to
clean up their image a lot since those days. It's crazy, man, um.
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And you did you hear about the Executive Order Obama
signed in oh nine. It was pretty controversial among conservatives
because little background. The International Organization and Immunities Act in
was signed in the law, and basically that meant the
president could say certain organizations, international organizations that worked in
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the US are exempted from certain things like taxes, search
and sees or laws. And pretty much every president has
said you can be a part of this, like the
Red Cross Reagan UH in nine three included interpoll um
as part of that group songs like four different sections
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dealing with property taxes, social security, federal taxes, customs duties,
and UH having property and assets searched and confiscated. Then
in nine Obama said those four things now you're immune
from as well, so you have full immunity interpoll does
in the United States from these things. And conservatives got
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up in arms about, you know, the fact that Obama
had signed this. They tend to get up in our
fund anything and signed like his his dinner check here. UH.
But then people rallied back and said, well, you know,
I thought you wanted someone tough on crime, and he's
basically saying interpoll has more rights to do their thing
in the United States. So which way do you want
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it or do you just want to complain about everything
that he does? Uh? And the Obama administration said that,
you know what, this really didn't give them any more
free reign than Reagan had already given them an eighty three.
It is sort of finished up what he started. So
who knows. Regardless regardless of which side you sit on
on the political aisle, Obama is the new Reagan the
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end you got any more? Uh? Some successes. You talked
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about the tsunami in two thousand four. That was one, um,
and get your pedophile scenario. It's pretty big, not yours,
thirty countries, that's pretty huge. Um. They helped identify and
capture a Serbian war criminal, Milan Lukic Luci Luke. I
(26:18):
bet it's lukitch uh in Argentina coordinating between Argentina and
Chile and uh Bosnia Herzegovina. Nice yeah, um, And let's see. Uh.
They they also had one Um. You remember the Madrid
train bombings. Man, I had forgotten about those, kill the
(26:38):
d ninety people. Um. And they managed to catch at
least one guy. They they found twenty one guilty, but
the Interpol called at least one guy through coordination between Belgrade,
Baghdad and Madrid offices. And did you know the twenty
one people who were found guilty of that got to
combine forty thousand years in prison. Really, yeah, he'll probably
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never get out. No, no, I don't think they're going
to get out. And then grabs your pointed this one out.
A response team obtained and disseminated fingerprints and photographs of
Abou Musab al al Zarkawi. Yeah, which sounds kind of whatever.
But then you're like, oh, yeah, how would you get that, guys?
I guess yeah, I thought the same thing, and then
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I thought twice. I was like, now, I guess that
is a pretty big deal. It's worth mentioning. Yeah. Sure,
I didn't find a lot of stuff though, search for more. Yeah,
same here. And I think they're sort of behind the
scenes that they're like, we're not gonna have any big
arrest because we don't do that. Um, but we're involved
in a lot of those on the back end on
their website, UM, which is a pretty cool, user friendly website. Agreed,
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It's like, here's a lot of information that's very vague. Yeah,
Like we have two kinds of response teams, criminal and disaster.
And that's all we're gonna say about that kind of thing.
And you know, I'm interested to hear if anyone knows
anymore about their controversies. I'm curious, does your dad work
at Interpol? We want to know. Um, you got anything else?
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So if you want to learn more about inter poll
and and read a very glowing review of their life
and work, very glossy, whitewashed review, Um, you can type
in Interpol I N T E R P O L.
And did we say where they got the name? I
don't think we did. I don't think so. So with
the advent of telegraph communications, they're like, man, we need
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to uh, we need to shorten this or else people
aren't gonna waste the money with Western Union talking about us,
So they shorten their name to Interpol. Instead of the
longer I c OP. They should just call I c OP. Yeah,
I COP. Yeah, Yeah, Well, don't type I guess you
could type I COP into the search. Probably some mac
(28:49):
Apple app now that allows you to like make citizens arrest. Um,
that's a good one. Thanks, we should go make that. Um. Well, yeah,
type I COP in the search bart how stuff works
dot com? And I said search bar. It just didn't
you know it, which means it's time for listener mel Josh,
(29:11):
I'm gonna call this uh uh a brewer for Anheuser Busch. Wow,
it's a big, big time one of the big daddies.
Hey guys, just finished listening to the Beer Podcast and
felt compelled to write. I used to live in Atlanta
and missed the Beer Senior, a dream of the brick
store pub every third night. I'm a beer geek homebrewer
and also happened to now brew beer for Annheuser Busch UM,
(29:33):
also now known as a b in Bev. As was
mentioned in the podcast, It's a pretty sweet gig that
all started for me by homebrewing in my Atlanta apartment closet. Crazy. UM.
I enjoyed the podcast a lot, and you were pretty
spot on with the info and brewing one on one
except for the mention of forced carbonation. UM. I have
(29:53):
worked because I think we said that that the big
breweries like forced carbon eat everything. Not so UM. I've
worked in a cup full of crapperies aside from my
current job at Anheuser Busch, and I had never seen
this before. I can't speak for the other big guys.
But our beer at anh Anheuser Busch is made pretty
much the same way as other small craft beers. We
(30:15):
just have much larger equipment and more automation at annhuser Busch.
After primary fermentation, our beers are loggered in a tank
for as long as twenty one days. In the case
of the famous Budweiser, I've heard of that one days
um during the aging process, the beer is still fermating
slightly and builds up C O two in the tank.
(30:37):
This is how our beer is carbonated all naturals, similar
to the priming homebrew in bottles. And uh, that's it,
he says, have a four twenty on me and I'll
pick up the tab next time in Atlanta. No, you
send us the money first, and then we'll go have
a four twenty on you. That's what I say, David.
Thanks David. We appreciate in advance the money you'll send
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us for our four twenties. Yes, and also I wanted
to point out when we were talking about our favorite beers,
I was sort of snobby with all my I p
A s and all that stuff. I do love all that,
but the Triumvirate for me has been my staple since college,
which is Budweiser, Miller Highlight, and perhaps I like. Yeah,
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I like all those. I'm fine with those, and I
don't drink those as much anymore because I love the
taste of like a delicious i PA, but I certainly
don't turn my nose up at a Budweiser. Okay, well,
then you're definitely not a beer snob. No not, you
like the drinking pood You remember those kids in college?
Did you know anybody in college you could like recite
what it said on the neck label of the Budweiser bottle,
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like what it says the writing. I didn't know anyone.
It's like, this is Budweiser, the finest beer ever produced
to Bud Bud. I used to go to school with
kids who could recite that like by heart, and I
always thought it was Ken's sad. Yeah, I didn't even know.
I've never even read the bottle. It's easier if you
have like a beach towel, because the lettering is way
bigger than you can be more instant. Oh and I
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also got called out by a fan for being a
hipster for drinking paps, and I was like, dude, I've
been drinking PBR since like, and it amused me when
it became a hipster beer. I was like, really, it
blows my mind how much we share ourselves and how
much we have in the four plus episodes, and there's
so many people out there who do not know us
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at all. So, UM, I guess if you want to
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Good morning everyone. I hope you've enjoyed your breakfast cereal,
your Saturday morning cartoons, and now it's time for a
little learning from two thousand twelve. My select pick for
this week is Interpol colon World Police, because why not.
I never knew much about interpoll at all actually before
we did this podcast, and I learned quite a bit myself,
(00:20):
and I think you will too. So if you haven't
listened to it, I hope you enjoy it. If you have,
give it another world. Here we go with Interpol. Right now,
welcome to Stuff you should Know from House Stuff Works
dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.
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There's Charles W. Chuke Bryant. Uh. And since you put
the two of us together with microphones as we are now,
uh and press records, you get stuff you should know.
That's right. A little podcast, just a little podcast, squsty
little podcast made it sell it? Coom, how are you, sir?
I'm pretty good your papers? Please? No? What is that
(01:07):
you know into Pol? Is that you sounded like? Um
the little Asian man who gives the box to Pinhead,
the man who eventually becomes Pinhead watches y'all plasias. Uh,
that's kind of who you want. Well, then that's what
I was doing. Good ones, my first good impression. Yet.
The guy has Interpol written all over him, he's got
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a he's got an orange notice out on him. I'll
bet you green. We'll get on that later, Chuck. Yes,
I'm pretty much percent sure you had nothing to do
with this, so you may not have heard about it, okay. Um.
Back in two thousand eleven, about this time March two
thousand eleven, inter POL, the international police organization, cracked a
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um child pedophile ring. Nice the biggest one ever really
centered on a website I guess appropriately enough called boy
lover dot net run out of Amsterdam. Boy lover dot
net is just a straight up legitimate gay porn site,
but there was a forum there with like seventy thousand
(02:16):
members with that like said, well, hey, you're you're into
this kind of thing too, huh Um, I got a
video that you're gonna love, and I also have a
little boy that I'm gonna mail to you. So this
wasn't affiliated with the website. No, they're just using one
of the forums as a meeting place for pedophiles. But
Interpol busted these guys up rescued UM two and thirty
(02:38):
kids arrested a hundred and eight four UM suspects just
in the first sweep and pretty much in thirty countries. Yeah,
good for them, It is good for them. It's just
one of the many victories and triumphs over PEDERASTI that
Interpol can boast. That's right, and not just pederasty. Like
all sorts of huge international crimes. Anytime there's a crime
(03:03):
syndicate or a ring, you need to watch out because
inner Poles watching you. Into Pol is right behind you.
What does you'll pla uh? And this was actually fan
generated this um. This came on Facebook like three days ago.
Oh really, I wish I would have got the guy's name.
Some kid was like, hey, can you do one Interpol?
And I went, yeah sure? Are you sure? He wasn't
(03:24):
talking about the band he might have been. Are they
still around? Yeah? They're still around? Uh yeah they're yeah.
I don't I don't know what they're doing these days.
I'm not a fan, so I don't know, dude, how
do you not like Interpol? There? Just like listen to
their music and it didn't sit right in my ears.
I'm surprised. I thought, like everybody like the Inner Pole. Yeah,
they're just good. Yeah, yeah, do you think all right?
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INTERPOL the International Criminal Police Organization or i c p O,
or if you're in France or their headquartered, you might
call it the Organists Organist Internacion the police criminal very nice,
which is pretty much the same thing and different word order.
I didn't know this, but criminal is feminine. Oh yeah, yeah,
(04:10):
I didn't realize that they like the ladies. Yess alright, So,
as you said, Josh, they are an international um, fully autonomous,
not affiliated with any single country organization. I think they're
a hundred eighty six countries nine now and they all
contribute to the to the budget to the kittie based
(04:32):
on their size and their g d P and some
other factors. Like it's very it's very fair, um, but
it's very important, like you said, that they're not beholden
to any one country um, and that they remain neutral
and they don't and they don't engage in any um
any investigations into political stuff things um contributing or being
(04:55):
centered on race or um religion. That's right, My brain
is now working today. My brain is uh so what
they do Josh, you just said what they don't do.
What they do do, uh terrorism, sexually do terrorism like
nobody else, sexual abuse, especially with children, which is what
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you just talked about. UM, organized crime, international fugitives, computer crime, UM,
stolen art, money laundering, human trafficking, illegal drugs, smuggling, environmental crime,
anything that crosses international borders. Almost you're gonna find into
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polar helping helping out with But you said the magic
phrase helping out like interpoll doesn't have. They don't run
around like arresting guys phrase bad guys. It is interpoll
UM and they they don't have interpolled jail, as a
Grabanowski points out, UM. But what they do is they
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serve as this international meeting point for UM already established
national agencies. Right, So let's let's do a little scenario.
I'm FBI Agent Todd Ridgeway of the Des Moines, Iowa
Field office, and your agent Vinny Testaverity of the Politia
di Stato in Italy, and I believe a terrorist is
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UM hiding out near your field office in Genoa. So
I'm calling you up. I'm like ring ring, This is
Todd Ridgeway. I'm with the FBI. In Des Moines. Hey, Todd,
this is so. And see what Chuck just demonstrated was
how it doesn't work because Vinny Testaverdi doesn't speak a
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look of English and Todd Ridgeway doesn't speak any Italian. Right.
And not only that, he shouldn't have been calling Vinny Testaverdi.
He should have been calling Giuseppe de Bikono um who's
with the local police, because is that's what the Italian
um police bureaucracy protocol calls for. But he has no idea, no,
(07:09):
So what does he do? He calls into pot that's right,
and they step up and they're like, you know, you
need to get in touch with you need to get
in touch with any test of Verdie's cousin who works
for the state police over there, the Polizza but Italy,
because there who's handling this case. Here's their number. In fact,
let me go ahead and patch it through. But not
only that, I'm going and I'm going to translate for you. Um. Yeah,
(07:32):
so they're the interpoll Um. Interpol has what are called
National Central Bureaus national country Bureaus, no National Central Bureaus
n CBS, and that's like an FBI field office. But
They have them in different countries around the world, and
they serve as liaisons for the local or state or
national police with the same their counterparts in other countries.
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That's the big one. Yeah, it gets you know when
you it's it's complicated enough within the United States with
jurisdictions and protocol, but when you open it up to
the world, boy, it gets all kinds of crazy. So
luckily intopol Is there any peeing contests, Well, they probably
try to, but them should they exist? Um, Their big
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deal is their databases, because the FBI and the CIA,
why they might all have like and whatever your country's
databases are, crime databases, they probably just extend to that country,
unless it's like some sort of database on terrorism. Um. Interpolls.
Databases are away extensive. They circle the globe and they
(08:40):
can track criminals pretty much anywhere and everywhere. Fingerprints, mug shots,
wanted people, DNA, you name it. Um. They have a
they have a database just of lost, lost in stolen
travel documents that's got more than like twelve million files
to it. Yeah. I think I saw somewhere to too
that they said most people don't try and recover those,
(09:03):
which I thought was interesting. Yeah, well, I imagine like
if you lose your passport, you're probably traveling abroad and
they're you're not getting that back. You never know unless
you go. Yeah, yeah, they could have your stuff because
who knows that kuld that could have been stolen to
be used in some trafficking syndicate. It's true, and your
(09:23):
name could be all drug all through the mud um
boilover dot net. That's right. UM. The the database that
they are, the databases that they maintain or are their own,
but they're open and their access through this UM communications
net we're called seven. That's kind of cool something because
inter poll is um. They're open seven three even on Christmas.
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They're fully operational. Really, they don't close down like all
the police do here on Christmas. No, because think about it, man, Um,
well yes I get your joke, but I mean think
about the skeleton crews that go down. I think inter
Polls open all the time because they cross all all
UM time zones at all times. Yeah, so they kind
of have to be ready to go all the time
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because you know, while one guy is sleeping, the criminals
in one country are sleeping their wide awake and carrying
out bad activities and another. That's true. What else can
they do, josh? Oh? They serve that seven is also
a place where you can access another country's databases. So
this those those nationally bound databases become international through this portal,
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and Interval oversees all of that, so they know what's
going on. UM. They also, let's say there's an international
disaster of some sort, like a terrorist attack, assassination, UM,
they can send an incident response team UM generally coordinated
through the u N. If there's some sort of actually
a natural disaster like the tsunami efforts, they can send
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people down there to help UM identify people and look
for missing persons, UH, protect kids, because I can guarantee
you there are a lot of pedophiles who traveled who
Indonesia after that tsunami. That's right. That's crazy, man, that's
just that's awful. Imagine like losing your parents, being seven,
suddenly an orphan, and then now there's some guy who's like, hey,
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you're coming to Holland with me. You're like, no, I'm not.
He's like, yeah, you really are. Well, you know you
understand what he's saying. He just offers you the lolly
in a in a car ride. Yeah, very sad. Uh.
But thanks to Interpoll, things like that are being thwarted.
And I saw there's two types of incident response teams. Um.
(11:34):
They have the criminal type and the disaster type. Um.
And but they both serve in an advisory capacity and
they show up with their database right like I can
get you into you need me. Uh. They can act
as a central command though if local authorities say, hey,
we need your help to act to central command help
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us out with logistics. Um. I think the grabs are
said in two thousand five they did that twelve time. Yeah,
once a month, not bad. Dust off the old work
and shoes, yeah, like get off the field, yeah, time
to get out of bed. How does it structure, Josh, Well,
I'll tell you. Interpoll is made up of a general
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Assembly in which each of the member nations has one
delegate and one vote. Makes a lot of sense. They
meet once a year and they vote on all the
big stuff, which kind of makes it a slow lumbering
bureaucracy unless they invest a lot of authority into the
Executive Committee, which is a thirteen member committee that basically
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carries out all the administrative functions of inter Poll. And
they are elected, right, as is the Secretary General, although
it saysn't here appointed. I saw elected. Oh yeah, yeah,
now he's elected because um, I saw this guy, Ronald K. Noble.
He got an overwhelminglergy of the vote for his second reelection.
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So he's in his third term, first time ever, yeah,
which is still I think he's running from under this
current term. And he is the first American secretary general
if I'm not mistaken, right, yeah, And he's the first
three time secretary general too. Then a lot of frenchie's.
I think I saw one uh Englishman, Yeah, and uh,
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there's definitely one German because there was some controversy with that.
I believe the president is Korean, now, okay, not to
be confused with the secretary General. The president is beneath him, right.
The Secretary General is who actually runs the day to
day show, right. And he's headquartered, um in the General Secretariat,
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which is the main headquarters in Leon, France. That's right, um.
And then there's other there's some regional offices. There's six
of them, the sixth of which is in New York
and that's the Special liais under the u N Because
Interpol very wisely got in with the u N because
like this body has some staying power. That's right, We're
gonna become friendly with them. You can also find these
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place offices in Argentina, El Salvador, Thailand, Kenya, Zimbabwe and
quote their very nice did you practice in No, I
just it's name that I've said it many myself. It
means the um coast Devoir in French. Okay, uh, you
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mentioned that we all all the member countries chipping for
the budget. Um. The budget is not a lot, though,
compared to like any budget in the United States. I
think in two thousand seven the grabster pointed it at
roughly sixty one million dollars US or forty four a
million euros, which I wonder what that's equal to now
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two thousand seven dollars to two thousand eleven. But it's
a big change. I should have looked up the current budget.
Actually you should fail. It's okay, Chuck, Let's talk about
the notices. So this is their other big thing. Um.
They don't just sit around and and wait to be
asked for help. They also disseminate information and they do
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it through color coded notices. They've got. Um, let's see
what is the nine, eight seven. Okay, so they have
eight now because they added another one after this, after
this even yes, UM, and the different color codes mean
different things. So you're going to get via teletype possibly
facts or maybe even email. You'll get like some sort
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of maybe a PDF document of UM, say, orange basically
says like, hey, we've got we have pretty good idea
that there's an imminent threat and it's this guy and
he's wearing this coat and he's got a dirty bring
a bomb. Yeah, so that if you get an orange one,
your head better perk up and you need to look closely.
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That's right. Black is unidentified bodies. That's a sad one.
That's the saddest of all notices. UM Yellow missing persons.
It's probably the second status uh green general information and
warnings about major criminals. So this one is kind of it. UM,
that's pretty vague. High well, it highlights another function that
they have UM that it wasn't explicitly stated in this article,
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but I gleaned using my powers of deduction, that they
have analysts who crunch all this data, who poured through databases,
look at crime trends, look at criminal trends, and then
UM come up with basically just general notices. When they're
sitting around with some time on their hands, they issue
green notices that say, like, hey, here's another angle to
(16:58):
a case that you might not have thought of. Interesting.
Have you met this guy. Here's all the bad stuff
he's done. He may be in your neighborhood, right, that
kind of thing, And the local authorities say, yeah, yeah, interval,
we got we know you've got some time on your hand. Exactly,
very nice, thank you. The blue notice, Josh is um
individuals of interest related to a crime, including the possible
witnesses or suspects or persons of interest, is a good
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umbrella term for those kinds of people. Your crime that's
already been comming. People who ran with the wrong crowd.
We're at the wrong place in the wrong time and
didn't stick around. Yeah. On an international level, that's right. Red. Recently,
Mr Juliana Sans was issued the red notice, which means
you are wanted and it's sort of like a worldwide
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a PB. You gotta keep that. You print it out
and put it on your wall. What a red inner
pol notice on you? Oh yeah, I got you. Although
although Sane probably wasn't too fond of his I'll bet
he kept his you think. I'll bet he's one of
the few who did. With photoshop though, I mean, you
can never tell if it's real or not. Like you
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or I could make our own. I maybe we should
do that. Why not. I have a feeling one's coming
our way. Uh. Interpoll notice, which is not a color.
That was scary to me because it was the only
one that's not a color. Unless the new one you
talked about is not a color, It's okay. The Interpol
notice means, um uh, it's a U n UH Security
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Council Special noticed, meaning groups of individuals involved with al
Qaeda or the Taliban or at work. Yeah, people who
have UN sanctions on them. Um. Then there's now the
Purple notice, which, um basically it's kind of like a
green notice. It's like, hey, be aware of this kind
of stuff that's going on, but it's about what people
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are doing, like international criminal trends. Like do you remember
I think they were like pen guns. There was like
just a few years back, there was like a pen
that could shoot and it was very low powered. But
I think inter Poll sent out a notice on this, like, hey,
you guys need to be aware that this thing's out
there I saw in the movie. Okay, well, inter Poll
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probably inspired the writer. Interesting, it was a comedy too.
I guarantee inter Poll inspired the writer. It was pretty funny.
It was Fred fred Ward, Fred Warder, Fred Willard, fred
Ward Okay, the time writer Remo Williams. Yeah, he had
a he had a pin gun and shot at dude
in the neck. It was kind of funny. What movie
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was it, Uh, thirty Minutes or less with Danny McBride
and uh, it was good. The guy who played Facebook,
he played Facebook, Mark Zucker, Yeah, the Jesse Eisenberg. They
were both in that. It was sort of funny but
not highly recommended. But that scene was funny because Fred
Willards like, you think it's a pen and all of
a sudden need to shoot this stude in the neck
(19:49):
with it. That's funny. Um, that's high comedy. Yeah, it
was very much. Um. I watched Inside Man again last night.
That's such a good movie. Which one is that Spike
Lee heist movie with Clive Owens that dude really Yeah,
you hadn't seen it either. I made her watch you
last night. She's like, this is a good movie. That's
one of the few Spike Lea movies. I have not
(20:09):
seen It's see that, all right, have you seen? Yeah,
that's a good one too. I think inside Man hasn't
beaten all right. So yeah, Purple is just basically like
information on new types of criminal activity that people need
to be made aware of, Like pen guns, got you
and fred Ward, But the pen gun was a real warning.
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We're a real purple warning. Notice, I don't know, I'm
just assuming I'm using for example, got So let's talk
about the history of inter poll Chuck. It has a strange,
tumultuous history that closely follows the tumult of the twentieth
century if you ask me. Yeah, and Ed kind of
breeze right over the whole Nazi part of it. Yeah,
(20:50):
there's been a lot of controversy over that. Actually, oh yeah,
why are they accused of colluding? Well, let's back up.
They were formed and being in Austria, uh, during World
War two. Ed says they were interrupted when the Nazis
took control, deposed the Secretary General, moved to Berlin for
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a short time, but then after the war everything was rebuilt.
They moved to Paris, and that's kind of all he said.
I looked a little further into it, and it's pretty uh,
pretty controversial those years UM when it was under Nazi
rule obviously, Uh, they shared headquarters with the Gestapo, officially
operated UM as a division within the Nazi Security Police,
(21:33):
and to Nazi war criminals were the agency's presidents during
the wartime. Plus they overspent on Christmas parties. Uh. And
then this I read a Times article and some of
the comments back to the editorial said, you guys even
kind of whitewashed it because after the war they refused
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to take part in the sixties and seventies in any
of the Nazi war crime hunting war criminal hunts. Crazy. Uh, wow,
I had no idea, Chuck, I'm really glad you did this. Yeah.
And then uh, in nineteen sixty eight, their president uh
to seventy two was Paul Dickkopp, and he was an
(22:16):
s S officer. No, he was and remained president despite
them finding out about this and knowing about this, And
that was pretty controversial too. Jeez, I'll bet you don't
usually want Nazis leading your organization former Nazis either, No,
you know what I'm saying. Once a Nazi, always a
Nazi in my opinion, Well, dip cop was the he
(22:39):
was that the president for whatever four years. Yeah, and
a lot of people, a lot of people say interpoll
is like run without oversight and they have all this access,
but no one has access to their real like how
they do things the opposite of how grab Minowski tells it. Yeah,
it's a little more controversial than I thought once start
(23:00):
poking around. Well, I I guess it was probably the
VHS tapes that started to bring them out of the
dark and into uh, I guess a brighter role. Remember
the Interpol warning on old video cassettes? Now was that interval?
Oh yeah, Now it's like an FBI warring but before
and every once in a while you'll still see it
like Interpol warning. It's again like copyright theft and piracy. Um.
(23:22):
But yeah, apparently they now are they've shed themselves of
Nazis and have a third term Secretary General who's busting
pedophiles in Amsterdam. And did you pretty I think that's good.
I'm saying, oh yeah, yeah, they they've apparently tried to
clean up their image a lot since those days. It's crazy, man, um.
(23:43):
And you did you hear about the Executive Order Obama
signed in oh nine. It was pretty controversial among conservatives
because little background. The International Organization and Immunities Act in
was signed in the law, and basically that meant the
president could say certain organizations, international organizations that worked in
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the US are exempted from certain things like taxes, search
and sees or laws. And pretty much every president has
said you can be a part of this, like the
Red Cross Reagan UH in nine three included interpoll um
as part of that group songs like four different sections
(24:26):
dealing with property taxes, social security, federal taxes, customs duties,
and UH having property and assets searched and confiscated. Then
in nine Obama said those four things now you're immune
from as well, so you have full immunity interpoll does
in the United States from these things. And conservatives got
(24:49):
up in arms about, you know, the fact that Obama
had signed this. They tend to get up in our
fund anything and signed like his his dinner check here. UH.
But then people rallied back and said, well, you know,
I thought you wanted someone tough on crime, and he's
basically saying interpoll has more rights to do their thing
in the United States. So which way do you want
(25:11):
it or do you just want to complain about everything
that he does? Uh? And the Obama administration said that,
you know what, this really didn't give them any more
free reign than Reagan had already given them an eighty three.
It is sort of finished up what he started. So
who knows. Regardless regardless of which side you sit on
on the political aisle, Obama is the new Reagan the
(25:35):
end you got any more? Uh? Some successes. You talked
(25:57):
about the tsunami in two thousand four. That was one, um,
and get your pedophile scenario. It's pretty big, not yours,
thirty countries, that's pretty huge. Um. They helped identify and
capture a Serbian war criminal, Milan Lukic Luci Luke. I
(26:18):
bet it's lukitch uh in Argentina coordinating between Argentina and
Chile and uh Bosnia Herzegovina. Nice yeah, um, And let's see. Uh.
They they also had one Um. You remember the Madrid
train bombings. Man, I had forgotten about those, kill the
(26:38):
d ninety people. Um. And they managed to catch at
least one guy. They they found twenty one guilty, but
the Interpol called at least one guy through coordination between Belgrade,
Baghdad and Madrid offices. And did you know the twenty
one people who were found guilty of that got to
combine forty thousand years in prison. Really, yeah, he'll probably
(27:01):
never get out. No, no, I don't think they're going
to get out. And then grabs your pointed this one out.
A response team obtained and disseminated fingerprints and photographs of
Abou Musab al al Zarkawi. Yeah, which sounds kind of whatever.
But then you're like, oh, yeah, how would you get that, guys?
I guess yeah, I thought the same thing, and then
(27:21):
I thought twice. I was like, now, I guess that
is a pretty big deal. It's worth mentioning. Yeah. Sure,
I didn't find a lot of stuff though, search for more. Yeah,
same here. And I think they're sort of behind the
scenes that they're like, we're not gonna have any big
arrest because we don't do that. Um, but we're involved
in a lot of those on the back end on
their website, UM, which is a pretty cool, user friendly website. Agreed,
(27:43):
It's like, here's a lot of information that's very vague. Yeah,
Like we have two kinds of response teams, criminal and disaster.
And that's all we're gonna say about that kind of thing.
And you know, I'm interested to hear if anyone knows
anymore about their controversies. I'm curious, does your dad work
at Interpol? We want to know. Um, you got anything else?
(28:04):
So if you want to learn more about inter poll
and and read a very glowing review of their life
and work, very glossy, whitewashed review, Um, you can type
in Interpol I N T E R P O L.
And did we say where they got the name? I
don't think we did. I don't think so. So with
the advent of telegraph communications, they're like, man, we need
(28:27):
to uh, we need to shorten this or else people
aren't gonna waste the money with Western Union talking about us,
So they shorten their name to Interpol. Instead of the
longer I c OP. They should just call I c OP. Yeah,
I COP. Yeah, Yeah, Well, don't type I guess you
could type I COP into the search. Probably some mac
(28:49):
Apple app now that allows you to like make citizens arrest. Um,
that's a good one. Thanks, we should go make that. Um. Well, yeah,
type I COP in the search bart how stuff works
dot com? And I said search bar. It just didn't
you know it, which means it's time for listener mel Josh,
(29:11):
I'm gonna call this uh uh a brewer for Anheuser Busch. Wow,
it's a big, big time one of the big daddies.
Hey guys, just finished listening to the Beer Podcast and
felt compelled to write. I used to live in Atlanta
and missed the Beer Senior, a dream of the brick
store pub every third night. I'm a beer geek homebrewer
and also happened to now brew beer for Annheuser Busch UM,
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also now known as a b in Bev. As was
mentioned in the podcast, It's a pretty sweet gig that
all started for me by homebrewing in my Atlanta apartment closet. Crazy. UM.
I enjoyed the podcast a lot, and you were pretty
spot on with the info and brewing one on one
except for the mention of forced carbonation. UM. I have
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worked because I think we said that that the big
breweries like forced carbon eat everything. Not so UM. I've
worked in a cup full of crapperies aside from my
current job at Anheuser Busch, and I had never seen
this before. I can't speak for the other big guys.
But our beer at anh Anheuser Busch is made pretty
much the same way as other small craft beers. We
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just have much larger equipment and more automation at annhuser Busch.
After primary fermentation, our beers are loggered in a tank
for as long as twenty one days. In the case
of the famous Budweiser, I've heard of that one days
um during the aging process, the beer is still fermating
slightly and builds up C O two in the tank.
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This is how our beer is carbonated all naturals, similar
to the priming homebrew in bottles. And uh, that's it,
he says, have a four twenty on me and I'll
pick up the tab next time in Atlanta. No, you
send us the money first, and then we'll go have
a four twenty on you. That's what I say, David.
Thanks David. We appreciate in advance the money you'll send
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us for our four twenties. Yes, and also I wanted
to point out when we were talking about our favorite beers,
I was sort of snobby with all my I p
A s and all that stuff. I do love all that,
but the Triumvirate for me has been my staple since college,
which is Budweiser, Miller Highlight, and perhaps I like. Yeah,
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I like all those. I'm fine with those, and I
don't drink those as much anymore because I love the
taste of like a delicious i PA, but I certainly
don't turn my nose up at a Budweiser. Okay, well,
then you're definitely not a beer snob. No not, you
like the drinking pood You remember those kids in college?
Did you know anybody in college you could like recite
what it said on the neck label of the Budweiser bottle,
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like what it says the writing. I didn't know anyone.
It's like, this is Budweiser, the finest beer ever produced
to Bud Bud. I used to go to school with
kids who could recite that like by heart, and I
always thought it was Ken's sad. Yeah, I didn't even know.
I've never even read the bottle. It's easier if you
have like a beach towel, because the lettering is way
bigger than you can be more instant. Oh and I
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also got called out by a fan for being a
hipster for drinking paps, and I was like, dude, I've
been drinking PBR since like, and it amused me when
it became a hipster beer. I was like, really, it
blows my mind how much we share ourselves and how
much we have in the four plus episodes, and there's
so many people out there who do not know us
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at all. So, UM, I guess if you want to
offer us money for beer, that's cool, or you can
just send us beer. We're not done with that call
out yet. I'm not a shame or money. Sure. You
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