April 10, 2012 • 32 mins
While the search for Atlantis has been pushed to the fringes since the 19th century, archaeologists have quietly pursued cities that may have inspired Plato to fabricate the mythical city. It looks like a team in Greece has found it.
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It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know
from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to
the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, back in the saddle again
with Charles W. Chuck Bryant. We share a horse, we do.
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I have a horse side car. Actually, if it's a
small mule, yeah, that's attached to your horse. Yeah, and
I have to lean into the corners. It's more of
a hay cart than a side car. Okay, Back in
the saddle, meaning we are back from Texas and back
in the recording booth for the first time in two weeks. Yeah,
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it feels nice, dude to be back in this smelly, little,
dimly lit room. Yeah, it's strangely at least it's not
like blood colored, you know. Yeah, man, that'd be weird. Um.
So Chuck, Okay, yes, I guess we should get started. Huh.
You don't have an intro? Well, I I mean I
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was gonna use the intro. Was the intro? Go ahead? Then?
Have you have you ever heard of a place called Atlantis?
I have? Are you? Are you read like the Dean
the Triangle? The vacation getaway. No, we're like Britney Spears
stayed for free for like a month when they opened
and try to generate. I'm sure they were packing a
minute after that. I think they have been. I don't know.
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I can't. I can't discuss the financial a state of Atlantis,
the resort in the Bahamas. But what I can discuss
is Atlantis, the possibly fictitious place. Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and go on record as fictitious, are you well?
After reading this and by the way, this was awesome,
I had no idea about the secret surprise that's coming.
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Which one, well, the the other place, the real place?
Oh gotcha? Okay, which I've meant to ask you before
how we pronounce that? But we'll just get to that
and I'll let you say it first. But yeah, I'm
gonna say it's fictitious and based on that, Okay, I
think I kind of go with that too, mainly because
one of the things about Plato is, uh, he was
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the only person ever mentioned Atlantis. Plenty of people have
mentioned it after him, but it was based on what
he said, which kind of makes you think, like, okay,
is this um, this is an allegory. Probably it's about wickedness. Yeah.
What was his book in to Mas Yeah, that was
the book where we first mentioned it, and it was
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written in three sixty b C. And to Manus is
one of his dialogues, I believe. And Plato has a
thing where he likes to take real places, real people,
real events, and then just kinda use some literary license.
He's a philosopher, Okay, yeah he was. He was not
a documentarian of real things, right, Um. But along the
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way somewhere that idea got lost, right right. So for example,
Sodom and Gomora. I I would wager that a lot
of people think that Sodom and Gomorrah something really happened,
and then um it was it was taken. Eventually it
was used as allegory that these people were punished by God. Um,
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but really, you know, something really bad happened to him,
and somebody decided, hey, this is a great, great chance
to use this as a life lesson for everyone. So
there's a really strong possibility that Plato did the same thing,
because as he describes Atlantis, um, they they had gotten
kind of hubristic. I guess it does mimic other things
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in the Bible. That's sure it does. And um, the
great god Poseidon, who is the god of the sea
and of earthquakes, decided that he was kind of tired
of the people of Atlantis, which was the seat of
a cult that worshiped him. Right, so he, using the
techniques at hand, sent he created He's he, I guess,
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created an earthquake that generated a tsunami that sunk Atlantis
beneath the waves, lost forever. Yeah. I think the quote
from the book was sank into the sea in a
single day and night of misfortune. Yeah, that's putting it
lightly so. And he placed it too, didn't he? Actually? Yeah,
where off Spain the Pillars of Hercules, which is now
called the Strait of Gibraltar. And there's people looking in
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Spain now, right, I think legitimate bona fide archaeologists. They're
fun Yeah. So um so Plato. I guess part of
the problem is he's he's saying, like, yes, this this
was that the Strait of Gibraltar in his parlance at
the time. He's saying, is that the Straight of Gibraltar.
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The problem is is that Atlantis was this magnificent ringed city, um,
and it had like fantastic technology and architecture, and it
was just an amazingly advanced place. But he also says
that this has happened nine thousand years ago, right, right,
so nine thousand years before him, So they're aliens. Well
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that was that is thanks to a guy named Ignacious Donnally.
So this guy, so Plato writes about Atlantis, goes about
his business, right, and apparently nobody back then took it seriously.
And that's like modern man were the first people to say, oh,
maybe there wasn't Atlantis. Yeah, back in the day, everyone's like,
it's just Plato going off again. Right, it was this
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one guy, Ignacious Donnally. Can lay it all at his feet, jerk,
because in eighteen eighty two he published a book called
Atlantis The Antidiluvian World, and in it he's saying, Okay,
the Azores, the Zories, man, I wish i'd put that
one up, and I think that's right. Um, the islands
in the middle of the Atlantic. That's actually the highest
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peaks of the highest mountaintops of Atlanta tists. And wait
there's more. Uh, the incredibly advanced civilizations in Egypt and
high up in the Andes of Peru, pre inca. Um.
Those were colonies set forth by Atlantis that survived because
they weren't there for the sinking of Atlantis. So basically, um,
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we have civilization to thank We have Atlantis to thank
for civilization. The problem is all this is totally unfounded,
but it just kicked off the um occultization of Atlantis. Yeah.
It's been placed everywhere from uh, South China, see the Caribbean,
the Pacific, the Indian Ocean, the Canary Islands, Antarctica, supposedly Switzerland. Yeah.
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I didn't chase that one down, but I saw somewhere
that somebody said Switzerland ahead and say everywhere. Yeah, everywhere,
Atlantis is everywhere. There's um Edgar Casey, who is known
as the Sleeping Prophet of Virginia Beach, who's a psychic
he um. He said that Atlantis stretched from the Gulf
of Mexico to Spain, and that the Bermuda Triangle there
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are a lot of you know, if there is mystery
in the Bermuda Triangle, it's due to Atlantis is energy crystals,
I will say though. He said it would rise off
Beminy and then when they discovered the Bemini Road, Everyone's
like see there, and then it's too bad Cherry's not
here because she's like I dove the Beminy Road. Yeah, guests,
producer Maddie's in the house, Hey, Matt, we didn't mention that.
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Um So, once Donnelly comes along and kind of takes
up the mantle of searching for Atlantis and making it
as far out as possible, it just becomes more and
more the domain of like fringe dwellers. Right, sure, but
that is not to say that there aren't legitimate archaeologists
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searching for something like Atlantis. That that doesn't mean that
there isn't something that inspired Plato, and we probably know
what that is. Actually, that's where my money is. And
now you're gonna make me say it, even though I
asked you to say it. Hilaki haliki, hiliki, haliki, haliki, Yeah, okay,
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haliki spelled he like, yeah, Um, I saw some weird
pronunciation things that I didn't understand when I looked it up,
so I just figured i'd hear it from you. That
was Greek to you, it was indeed, um So, yeah,
the cats out of the bag. As far as I'm concerned,
it is hiliki. It was a super interesting story though. Um,
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this was well documented by lots of people, not not
like a single source like Plato single made up so exactly.
And it was a lost Greek city. It suffered a
fate much like Atlantis supposedly did. Yeah. So Haliki was
this um very powerful city in ancient Greece on the
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Gulf corinth Um, very nice in that area. Yeah, yeah,
I imagine have you been? No, I want to go. Um.
It was powerful enough to have its own colonies. So
I mentioned if Atlanta had colonies in like Germany, this
is very much the case for Haliki, and it was
the seat of power for a twelve city league called
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the Achaian League, which is kind of like the Confederacy
in the South. Will that be like having a bar
in a different city that's like your home bar, like
you know they have like it's usually football based. There's
like a New York Jets bar Atlanta, Pittsburgh Steelers bar
in Atlanta. Maybe that the same thing. I thought it
was more like the capital of like a number of states.
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I don't think it's the same thing, but I like
that analogy. I'm just being coy. Um. So the the
a key in league now I've just realized that I
missed something. Now that's a joke. Yeah. So the the
Haliki is the city or the center of the a
keen league get controlled, like the shipping around there. By
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the time Plato came about, it was hundreds of years old,
already a very active port. They had their own coinage. Yeah,
and and it looked very cool too. I looked up
the coins like dolphins and Poseidon and yeah, pitch or
not pitchforks, what they call the tridents tridents, and it
was it had Poseidon on the coin because this was
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like the seat of a cult of Poseidon. Yeah, just
like Atlantis exactly. And um it was had a very prominent,
well known statue of Poseidon, just like Atlantis. Right, that's right.
So the similarities are starting to mount up, they are,
and uh, they really mount in a big way in
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December of three seventy three BC, when the townspeople started noticing,
Wait a minute, all these small animals are scurring for
the hills and that's never a good sign. Because we
did talk about in another podcast how animals can sense
underground tremmors. I had to have been in how earthquakes
were Yeah, I think that's what it was. And sure enough,
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earthquake came in the middle of the night on the
fifth day, and that was followed by an enormous wave
and just like that overnight, just like Atlantis, it was
submerged to the bottom of the sea. Well not the
bottom but no, and not necessarily the sea either. As
we'll see, this is getting more mysterious. So, um, so
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this really happened. This is pretty Uh, it was a
pretty well known event. UM. One of the there, I
guess we should say there were no survivors, like people
from the surrounding cities got together, like um, a search party,
a rescue party, UM, that set out at dawn just
a few hours after this happened, and there was well
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I think they got they walked as far as they
couldn't were like, oh yeah, well, there's now like a
sea where there used to be this, This Um city's gone.
There was no one there apparently. The only thing visible
where the tops of Um the trees in Poseidon's Sacred grove.
I would guess, all of the trees. Yeah uh. And
there were ten ships and this will come up later too,
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from Sparta that were a dock there in the port
and they were gone as well, just gone, and that
will play an important part here coming up soon. Yeah. So, um,
imagine like there's a city, it's a very powerful, rich city,
and you live out in the boondocks and you just
know something happened there as an earthquake, so you go
to check on the city, and then the city's gone,
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and it's just silence, and there's ten ships that aren't
there anymore. Everything is just gone. Creepy. What was even
creepier though, is you could look down into the city
underwater and see it all there still, Yeah, including the
statue of Poseidon, which apparently still stood erect and in
place right, and local fishermen and ferryman um reported having
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their nets get caught in Poseidon statue all the time,
which is kind of ironic. Yeah, but um, so you
could see leaky for hundreds of years, which is one
of the reasons why it's so well documented, because they
were it was kind of like have you heard of
than of tourism, dark tourism or death tourism, So um,
it was kind of like an early version of a
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dark tourism site, like yeah, exactly, um, and you could
go check it out and travelers and writers and scholars didn't.
They documented what they saw um pretty pretty um specifically too.
Like in Stadia, they said, well, here's the this is
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where the city is now, this is where it was
in relation to you know this river, that river. So
like the sources are pretty pretty abundant, and they're pretty specific.
Speaking of abundant and rivers and sources, look at you. Uh,
that area was was unique in that it had these
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three rivers that met there bringing fresh water in. So
you've got some good freshwater, you got some good seawater
with tons of good seafood. You've got very rich land
for crops, Wh've got irrigation because we've got the freshwater.
The weather is gorgeous. So it's right here on on
the lovely seaside, and that's what made it and on
the ideal spot for people to say, hey, maybe we
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should settle down here. Yeah, let's hanging out here for
a while, get fat on shrimp. Unfortunately, it's also a
bad spot because there are two fault lines that run
parallel through the area, and uh, they haven't been known
to call some major disruption over the years, like the
earthquake that destroyed Hiliki and generated the tsunami. So it's
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it's kind of like this whole place is like made
to produce a lost city, right, Yeah, because there's other
places around the world, um, where there's violent tectonic activity
and its coastal, so that means that it's in danger
of a tsunami. California not with tesunami, I don't think. Japan. Yeah, um,
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the Malaysian tsunami two four. Um, Yeah, there's a lot
of places. But to produce a so that's that will
ruin a coastal city, right, yes, but for it to
become lost, it has to be covered up somehow, and
Hiliki is in a really unique situation for this because
of those three rivers that form the Hiliki Delta where
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Hiliki was situated. Right, So you've got the earthquake, you've
got the tsunami, so you have a ruined city now submerged,
and then these three rivers bring a lot of silt
to the area and so eventually Hiliki was covered up
over over the centuries. Yeah. You put it in the
article about how if you bought a house or not
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bought a house, let's say, built a house along the
shore in eight nine it would be a thousand feet inland,
which imagine is quite a rub for people that build
that lovely house right on the water, because within a
century or so, it's gonna be a couple of streets
back and there's like tin jerks in front of you
that have built houses exactly. And it's kind of like
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what's that game where you like leap frog? Oh yeah,
I can say monopoly where you build bigger houses than
the other guy. Oh yeah, that would have worked too. Um.
So you've got the tsunamis, you've got the river, you've
got the the silt. You also have um, the delta
itself because of this violent activity, UM is moving up there.
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Finding over time it's it's rising. So you have a
rising delta which is low, like right at sea level,
but it's it's getting bigger, and silt is piling it
up and making dry ground even further jut out into
the coast. Well, what it made was a nice little
surprise for archaeologists, and I imagine archaeologists just went berserk
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with this place. Yeah, they had no idea. They just
thought Hliki itself was there. They knew it was there,
and that they suspected it would be kind of like
a Pompeii, but even more. Um they considered it even
more vital to archaeology, the archaeological record than Pompeii even Well,
what they found though is, you know, Josh, but we're
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gonna spring it on you now, is six other distinct
occupied horizons besides six other ones are seven total, sixth total,
six total, five others besides Laki underneath one on top
of the other that had been settled and civilized and
wiped out and covered up and like just kind of
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captured in time. That is crazy. Yeah, which one? What
were they? So? There was one from the Byzantine period,
which was pretty long. I think it ran from two
d to the fifte century UM. And then beneath that
there is a Roman ruin which is from the second
to the fourth a D. And that one even features
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a Roman road, which is the road that try velers
and writers used to come look at Hiliki the ruins
um and that one also chucked. This just blows in
my mind. It's so captured in time that there's a
human skeleton a top a like a cattle skull that
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like it was knocked on top of this beast and
killed like by rock and rubble and just kept there.
So there's skeletons are intertwined now in that nuts. So
the Roman cities on top of Hiliki than beneath Hileaky, Uh,
they found even more stuff. They found a settlement from
the Bronze Age b C. And before that they kept
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digging and found uh, prehistoric Neolithic period civilization possibly as
old as twelve thousand years. I wonder if there's something
beneath that even I don't know. This makes me think
they should start digging in Los Angeles or other like
seaside retreats to see what you could find. Well, there's
a whole um. There's this whole idea, especially among atlantis hunters,
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that it's extremely intuitive because of rising sea levels that
anything that was established around the last I Sage or
even at about the end of it, the sea levels
have ridged in like more than a hundred feet since then.
So any coastal cities now underwater, that's like a big,
big thing that they hunt for. Now that archaeologists are
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kind of starting to try to get into is um
looking for human habitation underwater, Like there's this whole area
off of whales. I think Northern Wales, Northern Ireland, maybe
Um or Scotland. Anyway, it's called dogger Land and it's
like just the submerged area that used to be above
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ground and they're they're they're finding like Neolithic settlements there
and that cool. Well, and you know, the earth has
changed so much over the course of its existence that
what's here didn't used to be here, and what was
there was something else, and so yeah, I think it's
there's no telling what's down there, but that that idea
and the fact that you can find neolithic settlements under
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water supports, ironically the notion that there could be something
like Atlantis that's lost somewhere Heliki. Right. So yeah, so
these guys they found this this um area, and once
they found Hiliki, it all started to They just it
was like jack pot, jackpot, jackpot. But finding Hiliki itself,
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um proved a little more difficult than they thought, especially
considering all the documentation they had. Yeah, they knew supposedly
knew where it was, quote unquote like it's not like
they were searching for a needle in a haystack. They
were searching for like, uh, like a pool qu in
a haystack, you know. Uh. So in the late eighties
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a couple of Cornell professors started looking for it for
real z s and uh They had a little bit
of misinterpretation, um for the word for the translation for
body of water, and lucky enough, they had a Greek
woman with them. Well she's one of the Cornelli professors.
Oh she was. Yeah. Well then lucky that she was Greek,
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Well yeah, because she translates. She was like, wait a minute,
She's like, it may not be in the Gulf after all,
it maybe inland. And they were like, yeah, everybody had
been thinking that this was the Gulf had swallowed him,
swallowed up the city, which would makes sense, right. It
turns out it was an inland lagoon that did. So.
I think it was very much akin to the you know,
the Noah's Ark episode we just did. Yeah, um, what
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is it? The Dead Sea? I think where they think
that the Dead Sea used to be freshwater. Now it's
salt water, because that's evidence of the flood happening. And
probably what they think is the Mediterranean overwhelmed the straight
I can't remember what's straight it was. You're searching the reaches. Yeah, anyway,
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I think give as much the same way, like the
city used to be around a lagoon, and then the
lagoon got a lot bigger, thus swallowing the city. Right,
So they looked under land, and all of a sudden
they had to ditch their scuba gear for shovels, and
they found the first Roman city. The first ruins were like,
wait a minute, twelve feet just twelve feet below the land,
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which doesn't seem like that far at all. No, it's
not because the Roman rumors were like four or five ft. Yeah,
I wouldn't think that someone would have accidentally found it
before that even you know, well that kicked it off.
There was a German archaeologists who was traveling in the
area and found a Hliky coin with poseidon on and
was like, holy cow, this is significant. So I think
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that's kind of how it started. Yeah, so they found
have found a lot of stuff since then, um buildings,
industrial buildings, kilns, looms, intersecting streets. Yeah, with buildings along
these streets like a real city. Yeah. What else? The coins,
of course, um jugs, jugs with their original contents, and
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those are from the Bronze Age. They found a storehouse
of like jugs of different sizes and types from the
Bronze Age, so we're talking like five thousand years old.
They don't have any idea about these civilizations, but this
was contemporary to like ancient Troy, which itself was considered
a legendary city until hiring Schleiman found it. Um. So
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they just finding this stuff is amazingly awesome because and
there's more, yeah, there is supposedly, yes, So they think
that they found the outskirts of Hliki and that they
there's a lot more left, and that it's intact. Oh,
they're not actually at Hiliki yet. No, they're in Hiliki,
but they're not in the city center. They don't, so
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they're just out in the outskirts. That's what they think. Yeah. Um.
And when they were looking for Hiliki out in the gulf,
they found something cool too, didn't they. I don't think
I know this, you do know it. They found a
sea wall acent sea walls of the city. And they
also found what they think are the ten Spartan ship.
Oh yeah, that's right. I thought you were going to
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say the Statue of Poseidon. That would be like, well,
they'll find an eventually, the motherload. If they found that
things still standing upright under the earth. So they keep following.
They started by following the Roman road, so they're basically
they're unearthing like imagine this, dude. They're unearthing like three
lost cities at once. Isn't that insane? Do you know? What?
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Like an archaeological treasure trove that is, So they're unearthing them.
And as long as they don't intersect, right, as long
as like the Roman town isn't built directly over the
statue of Poseidon to where getting to Poseidon would undermine
the Roman town, um, then they should be able to
get at all. And they're gonna be doing They will
excavate this for decades. So this has been ongoing since
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the late eighties. Well no, they really started uncovering stuff
in like two thousand, but they started in so awesome,
very cool. So that's a heliki. So of course, Chuck,
this doesn't mean that anybody has stopped searching for Atlantis.
Like big archaeologist in Spain. Yeah, he's looking inland though,
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which comes from this theory, so maybe he's on this one.
It's possible he's gonna start digging up in Barcelona and
people are gonna see what are you doing, Yeah, drink
some wine. So, uh, you were saying that you think
that Plato was inspired by Hliki. I think there's substantial
evidence in what we said. But also keep in mind
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Laki happened in three seventy three. Plato wrote his book
in three sixty, thirteen years later, and he lived in
the area. This is a pretty well known catastrophe. So
I think you're probably right. But we would not have
had the awesome TV show Man from Atlantis had it
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not been for Plato. No, I guess that's true. Did
you watch that? No, that was a little before your time.
And there's an awesome um HP Lovecraft short story about
a German U boat that ends up in Atlantis. It's awesome.
I tried to find YouTube stuff of Man from Atlantis
and there there's plenty out there. You know, he had
(26:21):
the webbed hands when I was a kid, had webbed
hands and feet. It's not Prince Nemore, is it the
submariner Prince of Nemore, Nemo, No Prince, He's a Marvel
comic guy. No, no, no, it was man. It was
a schlocky It ran for like one year. Was like, yeah,
he was he had super He had superhuman strength and
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uh could breathe underwater, had gills, and he had webbed
feet in hands and um, I think like some government
agency snapped him up to do like investigative undersea work
for them. Oh, I know you're talking about Welcome Back Cotter.
This is a dude from from Dallas. Uh? Patrick, what's
(27:03):
his face? Patrick Ewing? Patrick Guffy? You think? And jail
for you? Patrick giving the basketball player? Right, Patrick Duffy? Yeah, yeah, Uh,
this is good stuff. I have never heard of that show. Yeah,
it was only around for one year. I think. Boy,
I was into it when I was like seven. Good stuff.
You had webbed hands. Yeah, it got me into Plato,
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but you hadn't been eating it for years. Funny guy.
All right, So that's it. You got anything else? I
thank you for doing this one with it was awesome.
Thank you for opening my eyes to coolness. Anytime. If
you want to know more about Hliki, you should search
for was there a real Atlantis? By typing that into
the search bar at how stuff works dot com. And
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I said that, which means it's time for a listener. Man.
That's right, Josh. Remember when we did a little TV
pilot recently. UM, we tried to get these bookends onto
the show. They arrived a little late. We weren't able to.
But I want to tell everyone about this project, because
that sounds very cryptic, uh, this from my Hey, guys,
(28:09):
have been a big fan for a couple of years, UM,
and I especially like that some of your causes you
have taken on and considered and done podcast about them,
Kiva and the Cooperative for Education in particular. So our
Guatemala podcast gave him an idea for a Facebook fundraising
idea to raise awareness for co op or buddies, Cooperative
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for Education Cincinnati to do the awesome textbook programs and
uh computer Center Labs and Guatemala. And he proposed to
them and they said, hey, yeah, let's do this. So
his idea was to create quote unquote celebrity book ends
with just this basic idea, take an ordinary set of
book ends, although they are pretty fancy looking, I gotta admit, uh,
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and make them super famous uh pop culture icons through
social media to you and then sell them for a
million bucks and give it all the co ED. So
that's the plan. It's a good plan. I don't know
if we added anything to that. We added at least
okay good. Um, he says, I know it sounds crazy,
but crazy is usually what it takes to get people
to notice things. The rational thinking behind this is that
(29:18):
to get famous, all you need to have are a
ton of people believing that you're famous. You know. Yeah,
I mean what else is celebrity? Yeah exactly. Uh So
they're trying to drum up celebrity for these book ends
to raise awareness. They have sent them around the world
to meet people and to be on TV shows and
in movies. Uh. They're documenting this on Facebook, the travels
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I have a horse side car. Actually, if it's a
small mule, yeah, that's attached to your horse. Yeah, and
I have to lean into the corners. It's more of
a hay cart than a side car. Okay, Back in
the saddle, meaning we are back from Texas and back
in the recording booth for the first time in two weeks. Yeah,
(00:46):
it feels nice, dude to be back in this smelly, little,
dimly lit room. Yeah, it's strangely at least it's not
like blood colored, you know. Yeah, man, that'd be weird. Um.
So Chuck, Okay, yes, I guess we should get started. Huh.
You don't have an intro? Well, I I mean I
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was gonna use the intro. Was the intro? Go ahead? Then?
Have you have you ever heard of a place called Atlantis?
I have? Are you? Are you read like the Dean
the Triangle? The vacation getaway. No, we're like Britney Spears
stayed for free for like a month when they opened
and try to generate. I'm sure they were packing a
minute after that. I think they have been. I don't know.
(01:29):
I can't. I can't discuss the financial a state of Atlantis,
the resort in the Bahamas. But what I can discuss
is Atlantis, the possibly fictitious place. Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and go on record as fictitious, are you well?
After reading this and by the way, this was awesome,
I had no idea about the secret surprise that's coming.
(01:53):
Which one, well, the the other place, the real place?
Oh gotcha? Okay, which I've meant to ask you before
how we pronounce that? But we'll just get to that
and I'll let you say it first. But yeah, I'm
gonna say it's fictitious and based on that, Okay, I
think I kind of go with that too, mainly because
one of the things about Plato is, uh, he was
(02:15):
the only person ever mentioned Atlantis. Plenty of people have
mentioned it after him, but it was based on what
he said, which kind of makes you think, like, okay,
is this um, this is an allegory. Probably it's about wickedness. Yeah.
What was his book in to Mas Yeah, that was
the book where we first mentioned it, and it was
(02:39):
written in three sixty b C. And to Manus is
one of his dialogues, I believe. And Plato has a
thing where he likes to take real places, real people,
real events, and then just kinda use some literary license.
He's a philosopher, Okay, yeah he was. He was not
a documentarian of real things, right, Um. But along the
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way somewhere that idea got lost, right right. So for example,
Sodom and Gomora. I I would wager that a lot
of people think that Sodom and Gomorrah something really happened,
and then um it was it was taken. Eventually it
was used as allegory that these people were punished by God. Um,
(03:26):
but really, you know, something really bad happened to him,
and somebody decided, hey, this is a great, great chance
to use this as a life lesson for everyone. So
there's a really strong possibility that Plato did the same thing,
because as he describes Atlantis, um, they they had gotten
kind of hubristic. I guess it does mimic other things
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in the Bible. That's sure it does. And um, the
great god Poseidon, who is the god of the sea
and of earthquakes, decided that he was kind of tired
of the people of Atlantis, which was the seat of
a cult that worshiped him. Right, so he, using the
techniques at hand, sent he created He's he, I guess,
(04:10):
created an earthquake that generated a tsunami that sunk Atlantis
beneath the waves, lost forever. Yeah. I think the quote
from the book was sank into the sea in a
single day and night of misfortune. Yeah, that's putting it
lightly so. And he placed it too, didn't he? Actually? Yeah,
where off Spain the Pillars of Hercules, which is now
called the Strait of Gibraltar. And there's people looking in
(04:32):
Spain now, right, I think legitimate bona fide archaeologists. They're
fun Yeah. So um so Plato. I guess part of
the problem is he's he's saying, like, yes, this this
was that the Strait of Gibraltar in his parlance at
the time. He's saying, is that the Straight of Gibraltar.
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The problem is is that Atlantis was this magnificent ringed city, um,
and it had like fantastic technology and architecture, and it
was just an amazingly advanced place. But he also says
that this has happened nine thousand years ago, right, right,
so nine thousand years before him, So they're aliens. Well
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that was that is thanks to a guy named Ignacious Donnally.
So this guy, so Plato writes about Atlantis, goes about
his business, right, and apparently nobody back then took it seriously.
And that's like modern man were the first people to say, oh,
maybe there wasn't Atlantis. Yeah, back in the day, everyone's like,
it's just Plato going off again. Right, it was this
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one guy, Ignacious Donnally. Can lay it all at his feet, jerk,
because in eighteen eighty two he published a book called
Atlantis The Antidiluvian World, and in it he's saying, Okay,
the Azores, the Zories, man, I wish i'd put that
one up, and I think that's right. Um, the islands
in the middle of the Atlantic. That's actually the highest
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peaks of the highest mountaintops of Atlanta tists. And wait
there's more. Uh, the incredibly advanced civilizations in Egypt and
high up in the Andes of Peru, pre inca. Um.
Those were colonies set forth by Atlantis that survived because
they weren't there for the sinking of Atlantis. So basically, um,
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we have civilization to thank We have Atlantis to thank
for civilization. The problem is all this is totally unfounded,
but it just kicked off the um occultization of Atlantis. Yeah.
It's been placed everywhere from uh, South China, see the Caribbean,
the Pacific, the Indian Ocean, the Canary Islands, Antarctica, supposedly Switzerland. Yeah.
(06:40):
I didn't chase that one down, but I saw somewhere
that somebody said Switzerland ahead and say everywhere. Yeah, everywhere,
Atlantis is everywhere. There's um Edgar Casey, who is known
as the Sleeping Prophet of Virginia Beach, who's a psychic
he um. He said that Atlantis stretched from the Gulf
of Mexico to Spain, and that the Bermuda Triangle there
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are a lot of you know, if there is mystery
in the Bermuda Triangle, it's due to Atlantis is energy crystals,
I will say though. He said it would rise off
Beminy and then when they discovered the Bemini Road, Everyone's
like see there, and then it's too bad Cherry's not
here because she's like I dove the Beminy Road. Yeah, guests,
producer Maddie's in the house, Hey, Matt, we didn't mention that.
(07:23):
Um So, once Donnelly comes along and kind of takes
up the mantle of searching for Atlantis and making it
as far out as possible, it just becomes more and
more the domain of like fringe dwellers. Right, sure, but
that is not to say that there aren't legitimate archaeologists
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searching for something like Atlantis. That that doesn't mean that
there isn't something that inspired Plato, and we probably know
what that is. Actually, that's where my money is. And
now you're gonna make me say it, even though I
asked you to say it. Hilaki haliki, hiliki, haliki, haliki, Yeah, okay,
(08:07):
haliki spelled he like, yeah, Um, I saw some weird
pronunciation things that I didn't understand when I looked it up,
so I just figured i'd hear it from you. That
was Greek to you, it was indeed, um So, yeah,
the cats out of the bag. As far as I'm concerned,
it is hiliki. It was a super interesting story though. Um,
(08:31):
this was well documented by lots of people, not not
like a single source like Plato single made up so exactly.
And it was a lost Greek city. It suffered a
fate much like Atlantis supposedly did. Yeah. So Haliki was
this um very powerful city in ancient Greece on the
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Gulf corinth Um, very nice in that area. Yeah, yeah,
I imagine have you been? No, I want to go. Um.
It was powerful enough to have its own colonies. So
I mentioned if Atlanta had colonies in like Germany, this
is very much the case for Haliki, and it was
the seat of power for a twelve city league called
(09:12):
the Achaian League, which is kind of like the Confederacy
in the South. Will that be like having a bar
in a different city that's like your home bar, like
you know they have like it's usually football based. There's
like a New York Jets bar Atlanta, Pittsburgh Steelers bar
in Atlanta. Maybe that the same thing. I thought it
was more like the capital of like a number of states.
(09:35):
I don't think it's the same thing, but I like
that analogy. I'm just being coy. Um. So the the
a key in league now I've just realized that I
missed something. Now that's a joke. Yeah. So the the
Haliki is the city or the center of the a
keen league get controlled, like the shipping around there. By
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the time Plato came about, it was hundreds of years old,
already a very active port. They had their own coinage. Yeah,
and and it looked very cool too. I looked up
the coins like dolphins and Poseidon and yeah, pitch or
not pitchforks, what they call the tridents tridents, and it
was it had Poseidon on the coin because this was
(10:20):
like the seat of a cult of Poseidon. Yeah, just
like Atlantis exactly. And um it was had a very prominent,
well known statue of Poseidon, just like Atlantis. Right, that's right.
So the similarities are starting to mount up, they are,
and uh, they really mount in a big way in
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December of three seventy three BC, when the townspeople started noticing,
Wait a minute, all these small animals are scurring for
the hills and that's never a good sign. Because we
did talk about in another podcast how animals can sense
underground tremmors. I had to have been in how earthquakes
were Yeah, I think that's what it was. And sure enough,
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earthquake came in the middle of the night on the
fifth day, and that was followed by an enormous wave
and just like that overnight, just like Atlantis, it was
submerged to the bottom of the sea. Well not the
bottom but no, and not necessarily the sea either. As
we'll see, this is getting more mysterious. So, um, so
(11:25):
this really happened. This is pretty Uh, it was a
pretty well known event. UM. One of the there, I
guess we should say there were no survivors, like people
from the surrounding cities got together, like um, a search party,
a rescue party, UM, that set out at dawn just
a few hours after this happened, and there was well
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I think they got they walked as far as they
couldn't were like, oh yeah, well, there's now like a
sea where there used to be this, This Um city's gone.
There was no one there apparently. The only thing visible
where the tops of Um the trees in Poseidon's Sacred grove.
I would guess, all of the trees. Yeah uh. And
there were ten ships and this will come up later too,
(12:09):
from Sparta that were a dock there in the port
and they were gone as well, just gone, and that
will play an important part here coming up soon. Yeah. So, um,
imagine like there's a city, it's a very powerful, rich city,
and you live out in the boondocks and you just
know something happened there as an earthquake, so you go
to check on the city, and then the city's gone,
(12:31):
and it's just silence, and there's ten ships that aren't
there anymore. Everything is just gone. Creepy. What was even
creepier though, is you could look down into the city
underwater and see it all there still, Yeah, including the
statue of Poseidon, which apparently still stood erect and in
place right, and local fishermen and ferryman um reported having
(12:52):
their nets get caught in Poseidon statue all the time,
which is kind of ironic. Yeah, but um, so you
could see leaky for hundreds of years, which is one
of the reasons why it's so well documented, because they
were it was kind of like have you heard of
than of tourism, dark tourism or death tourism, So um,
it was kind of like an early version of a
(13:14):
dark tourism site, like yeah, exactly, um, and you could
go check it out and travelers and writers and scholars didn't.
They documented what they saw um pretty pretty um specifically too.
Like in Stadia, they said, well, here's the this is
(13:35):
where the city is now, this is where it was
in relation to you know this river, that river. So
like the sources are pretty pretty abundant, and they're pretty specific.
Speaking of abundant and rivers and sources, look at you. Uh,
that area was was unique in that it had these
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three rivers that met there bringing fresh water in. So
you've got some good freshwater, you got some good seawater
with tons of good seafood. You've got very rich land
for crops, Wh've got irrigation because we've got the freshwater.
The weather is gorgeous. So it's right here on on
the lovely seaside, and that's what made it and on
the ideal spot for people to say, hey, maybe we
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should settle down here. Yeah, let's hanging out here for
a while, get fat on shrimp. Unfortunately, it's also a
bad spot because there are two fault lines that run
parallel through the area, and uh, they haven't been known
to call some major disruption over the years, like the
earthquake that destroyed Hiliki and generated the tsunami. So it's
(14:39):
it's kind of like this whole place is like made
to produce a lost city, right, Yeah, because there's other
places around the world, um, where there's violent tectonic activity
and its coastal, so that means that it's in danger
of a tsunami. California not with tesunami, I don't think. Japan. Yeah, um,
(14:59):
the Malaysian tsunami two four. Um, Yeah, there's a lot
of places. But to produce a so that's that will
ruin a coastal city, right, yes, but for it to
become lost, it has to be covered up somehow, and
Hiliki is in a really unique situation for this because
of those three rivers that form the Hiliki Delta where
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Hiliki was situated. Right, So you've got the earthquake, you've
got the tsunami, so you have a ruined city now submerged,
and then these three rivers bring a lot of silt
to the area and so eventually Hiliki was covered up
over over the centuries. Yeah. You put it in the
article about how if you bought a house or not
(15:43):
bought a house, let's say, built a house along the
shore in eight nine it would be a thousand feet inland,
which imagine is quite a rub for people that build
that lovely house right on the water, because within a
century or so, it's gonna be a couple of streets
back and there's like tin jerks in front of you
that have built houses exactly. And it's kind of like
(16:06):
what's that game where you like leap frog? Oh yeah,
I can say monopoly where you build bigger houses than
the other guy. Oh yeah, that would have worked too. Um.
So you've got the tsunamis, you've got the river, you've
got the the silt. You also have um, the delta
itself because of this violent activity, UM is moving up there.
(16:30):
Finding over time it's it's rising. So you have a
rising delta which is low, like right at sea level,
but it's it's getting bigger, and silt is piling it
up and making dry ground even further jut out into
the coast. Well, what it made was a nice little
surprise for archaeologists, and I imagine archaeologists just went berserk
(16:54):
with this place. Yeah, they had no idea. They just
thought Hliki itself was there. They knew it was there,
and that they suspected it would be kind of like
a Pompeii, but even more. Um they considered it even
more vital to archaeology, the archaeological record than Pompeii even Well,
what they found though is, you know, Josh, but we're
(17:15):
gonna spring it on you now, is six other distinct
occupied horizons besides six other ones are seven total, sixth total,
six total, five others besides Laki underneath one on top
of the other that had been settled and civilized and
wiped out and covered up and like just kind of
(17:36):
captured in time. That is crazy. Yeah, which one? What
were they? So? There was one from the Byzantine period,
which was pretty long. I think it ran from two
d to the fifte century UM. And then beneath that
there is a Roman ruin which is from the second
to the fourth a D. And that one even features
(17:56):
a Roman road, which is the road that try velers
and writers used to come look at Hiliki the ruins
um and that one also chucked. This just blows in
my mind. It's so captured in time that there's a
human skeleton a top a like a cattle skull that
(18:17):
like it was knocked on top of this beast and
killed like by rock and rubble and just kept there.
So there's skeletons are intertwined now in that nuts. So
the Roman cities on top of Hiliki than beneath Hileaky, Uh,
they found even more stuff. They found a settlement from
the Bronze Age b C. And before that they kept
(18:43):
digging and found uh, prehistoric Neolithic period civilization possibly as
old as twelve thousand years. I wonder if there's something
beneath that even I don't know. This makes me think
they should start digging in Los Angeles or other like
seaside retreats to see what you could find. Well, there's
a whole um. There's this whole idea, especially among atlantis hunters,
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that it's extremely intuitive because of rising sea levels that
anything that was established around the last I Sage or
even at about the end of it, the sea levels
have ridged in like more than a hundred feet since then.
So any coastal cities now underwater, that's like a big,
big thing that they hunt for. Now that archaeologists are
(19:28):
kind of starting to try to get into is um
looking for human habitation underwater, Like there's this whole area
off of whales. I think Northern Wales, Northern Ireland, maybe
Um or Scotland. Anyway, it's called dogger Land and it's
like just the submerged area that used to be above
(19:48):
ground and they're they're they're finding like Neolithic settlements there
and that cool. Well, and you know, the earth has
changed so much over the course of its existence that
what's here didn't used to be here, and what was
there was something else, and so yeah, I think it's
there's no telling what's down there, but that that idea
and the fact that you can find neolithic settlements under
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water supports, ironically the notion that there could be something
like Atlantis that's lost somewhere Heliki. Right. So yeah, so
these guys they found this this um area, and once
they found Hiliki, it all started to They just it
was like jack pot, jackpot, jackpot. But finding Hiliki itself,
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um proved a little more difficult than they thought, especially
considering all the documentation they had. Yeah, they knew supposedly
knew where it was, quote unquote like it's not like
they were searching for a needle in a haystack. They
were searching for like, uh, like a pool qu in
a haystack, you know. Uh. So in the late eighties
(20:54):
a couple of Cornell professors started looking for it for
real z s and uh They had a little bit
of misinterpretation, um for the word for the translation for
body of water, and lucky enough, they had a Greek
woman with them. Well she's one of the Cornelli professors.
Oh she was. Yeah. Well then lucky that she was Greek,
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Well yeah, because she translates. She was like, wait a minute,
She's like, it may not be in the Gulf after all,
it maybe inland. And they were like, yeah, everybody had
been thinking that this was the Gulf had swallowed him,
swallowed up the city, which would makes sense, right. It
turns out it was an inland lagoon that did. So.
I think it was very much akin to the you know,
the Noah's Ark episode we just did. Yeah, um, what
(21:37):
is it? The Dead Sea? I think where they think
that the Dead Sea used to be freshwater. Now it's
salt water, because that's evidence of the flood happening. And
probably what they think is the Mediterranean overwhelmed the straight
I can't remember what's straight it was. You're searching the reaches. Yeah, anyway,
(21:59):
I think give as much the same way, like the
city used to be around a lagoon, and then the
lagoon got a lot bigger, thus swallowing the city. Right,
So they looked under land, and all of a sudden
they had to ditch their scuba gear for shovels, and
they found the first Roman city. The first ruins were like,
wait a minute, twelve feet just twelve feet below the land,
(22:22):
which doesn't seem like that far at all. No, it's
not because the Roman rumors were like four or five ft. Yeah,
I wouldn't think that someone would have accidentally found it
before that even you know, well that kicked it off.
There was a German archaeologists who was traveling in the
area and found a Hliky coin with poseidon on and
was like, holy cow, this is significant. So I think
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that's kind of how it started. Yeah, so they found
have found a lot of stuff since then, um buildings,
industrial buildings, kilns, looms, intersecting streets. Yeah, with buildings along
these streets like a real city. Yeah. What else? The coins,
of course, um jugs, jugs with their original contents, and
(23:06):
those are from the Bronze Age. They found a storehouse
of like jugs of different sizes and types from the
Bronze Age, so we're talking like five thousand years old.
They don't have any idea about these civilizations, but this
was contemporary to like ancient Troy, which itself was considered
a legendary city until hiring Schleiman found it. Um. So
(23:31):
they just finding this stuff is amazingly awesome because and
there's more, yeah, there is supposedly, yes, So they think
that they found the outskirts of Hliki and that they
there's a lot more left, and that it's intact. Oh,
they're not actually at Hiliki yet. No, they're in Hiliki,
but they're not in the city center. They don't, so
(23:53):
they're just out in the outskirts. That's what they think. Yeah. Um.
And when they were looking for Hiliki out in the gulf,
they found something cool too, didn't they. I don't think
I know this, you do know it. They found a
sea wall acent sea walls of the city. And they
also found what they think are the ten Spartan ship.
Oh yeah, that's right. I thought you were going to
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say the Statue of Poseidon. That would be like, well,
they'll find an eventually, the motherload. If they found that
things still standing upright under the earth. So they keep following.
They started by following the Roman road, so they're basically
they're unearthing like imagine this, dude. They're unearthing like three
lost cities at once. Isn't that insane? Do you know? What?
(24:34):
Like an archaeological treasure trove that is, So they're unearthing them.
And as long as they don't intersect, right, as long
as like the Roman town isn't built directly over the
statue of Poseidon to where getting to Poseidon would undermine
the Roman town, um, then they should be able to
get at all. And they're gonna be doing They will
excavate this for decades. So this has been ongoing since
(24:57):
the late eighties. Well no, they really started uncovering stuff
in like two thousand, but they started in so awesome,
very cool. So that's a heliki. So of course, Chuck,
this doesn't mean that anybody has stopped searching for Atlantis.
Like big archaeologist in Spain. Yeah, he's looking inland though,
(25:17):
which comes from this theory, so maybe he's on this one.
It's possible he's gonna start digging up in Barcelona and
people are gonna see what are you doing, Yeah, drink
some wine. So, uh, you were saying that you think
that Plato was inspired by Hliki. I think there's substantial
evidence in what we said. But also keep in mind
(25:39):
Laki happened in three seventy three. Plato wrote his book
in three sixty, thirteen years later, and he lived in
the area. This is a pretty well known catastrophe. So
I think you're probably right. But we would not have
had the awesome TV show Man from Atlantis had it
(26:00):
not been for Plato. No, I guess that's true. Did
you watch that? No, that was a little before your time.
And there's an awesome um HP Lovecraft short story about
a German U boat that ends up in Atlantis. It's awesome.
I tried to find YouTube stuff of Man from Atlantis
and there there's plenty out there. You know, he had
(26:21):
the webbed hands when I was a kid, had webbed
hands and feet. It's not Prince Nemore, is it the
submariner Prince of Nemore, Nemo, No Prince, He's a Marvel
comic guy. No, no, no, it was man. It was
a schlocky It ran for like one year. Was like, yeah,
he was he had super He had superhuman strength and
(26:43):
uh could breathe underwater, had gills, and he had webbed
feet in hands and um, I think like some government
agency snapped him up to do like investigative undersea work
for them. Oh, I know you're talking about Welcome Back Cotter.
This is a dude from from Dallas. Uh? Patrick, what's
(27:03):
his face? Patrick Ewing? Patrick Guffy? You think? And jail
for you? Patrick giving the basketball player? Right, Patrick Duffy? Yeah, yeah, Uh,
this is good stuff. I have never heard of that show. Yeah,
it was only around for one year. I think. Boy,
I was into it when I was like seven. Good stuff.
You had webbed hands. Yeah, it got me into Plato,
(27:25):
but you hadn't been eating it for years. Funny guy.
All right, So that's it. You got anything else? I
thank you for doing this one with it was awesome.
Thank you for opening my eyes to coolness. Anytime. If
you want to know more about Hliki, you should search
for was there a real Atlantis? By typing that into
the search bar at how stuff works dot com. And
(27:47):
I said that, which means it's time for a listener. Man.
That's right, Josh. Remember when we did a little TV
pilot recently. UM, we tried to get these bookends onto
the show. They arrived a little late. We weren't able to.
But I want to tell everyone about this project, because
that sounds very cryptic, uh, this from my Hey, guys,
(28:09):
have been a big fan for a couple of years, UM,
and I especially like that some of your causes you
have taken on and considered and done podcast about them,
Kiva and the Cooperative for Education in particular. So our
Guatemala podcast gave him an idea for a Facebook fundraising
idea to raise awareness for co op or buddies, Cooperative
(28:32):
for Education Cincinnati to do the awesome textbook programs and
uh computer Center Labs and Guatemala. And he proposed to
them and they said, hey, yeah, let's do this. So
his idea was to create quote unquote celebrity book ends
with just this basic idea, take an ordinary set of
book ends, although they are pretty fancy looking, I gotta admit, uh,
(28:55):
and make them super famous uh pop culture icons through
social media to you and then sell them for a
million bucks and give it all the co ED. So
that's the plan. It's a good plan. I don't know
if we added anything to that. We added at least
okay good. Um, he says, I know it sounds crazy,
but crazy is usually what it takes to get people
to notice things. The rational thinking behind this is that
(29:18):
to get famous, all you need to have are a
ton of people believing that you're famous. You know. Yeah,
I mean what else is celebrity? Yeah exactly. Uh So
they're trying to drum up celebrity for these book ends
to raise awareness. They have sent them around the world
to meet people and to be on TV shows and
in movies. Uh. They're documenting this on Facebook, the travels
(29:41):
of these book ends, uh, in Twitter and blogs for
people to follow. And our big audacious goal is to
get as many Facebook fans as Kim Kardashian. She has
nine million fans. Can you believe them? Yes? Wow? Uh
So what we're hoping for your listeners is that they
will like the idea enough to want to help. All
you have to do it can be as simple as
(30:02):
going to the Facebook page, Uh, follow you on Twitter
the celebrity book ins that is, tweet about us, blog
about us, tell your friends to like us, and hook
us up with any celebrity friends that you might have. Um.
They have been in the hands of Danny de Vito. Uh,
Matt burning your of the National. I didn't know how
(30:25):
to pronounce that, but I do love The National, and
I believe I saw Jeff Bridges holding these things, did
you really? Yeah? And then before us. Yeah, So we
actually got a little DeVito Bridges stank on our hands
unless they clean these things. And they sent it to
us originally to get it in our cubicles on the
TV pilot, but they arrived a little late and we
weren't able to. So we just did some pictures and
(30:47):
maybe on down the road, if we do any more
TV stuff, we can get them on television and do
our part to help raise awareness. So uh, Facebook dot com,
slash Celebrity Bookends or Twitter at Celebrity book INDs, or
send an email to Celebrity book INDs at Gmail, and
that raises awareness to eventually sell these things to Danny
(31:09):
de Vito to raise money for God for a million bucks. Well,
I certainly don't have a million books. Well, we also
have our own Twitter handle and you can get in
touch with us too. While you're talking to Celebrity Bookends,
you can tweet to us whatever you want. There's no
rules except that has to be a hundred forty characters
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