All Episodes

October 5, 2022 2 mins

Speaking publicly for the first time ever, Chicago-born identical twins Jay and Peter Flores share the incredible story of how they went from dealing $2 billion worth of drugs across the country as North America’s most successful cocaine traffickers, to government informants who brought down the infamous drug lord, “El Chapo.”

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
The law is not there to protect criminals, is there
to protect the innocent. I was a criminal, so the
law wasn't there to benefit me. I've got st Jackson
and I'm Charlie Webster. Let me tell you a story
about two brothers. If you think this is just another
knockle story, you're wrong. My brood that we probably easily
pushed over a hundred thirty hundred forty tons since we

(00:22):
were distributing in Chicago, Ton Miwaukee, Wisconsin, Apples, Minnesota, Incinnati, Ohio, Lands, Hanover, Kentucky,
dotint In New York City, Washington, Atlanta, Georgia, Los Angeles, California,
man Cover, British Columbia, and the pantheon of drug prosecutions
in the history of the Northern District of Illinois, this
case stands at the highest level. Sure it's got all

(00:44):
the actions. And then pulled the gun out. It was
a fifty cap it's already loaded. He has a box
of ammunition, and he's like, go ahead and just put
one in the chamber. He said, listen, I'm calling you
because they got eight hundred men right to come get
But there's a chance that you might not make it
out of life and the drama. I said, well, sir,

(01:06):
I'm here because I'm here for my brother. I remember
getting my knees and praying, and I said, I give
my brother back that part without That's what I bag
and that's what I said. But at the end of
the day, it's about two boys born into a life.
They didn't shoot. Here the incredible true story of j
and Pete Flores, the twin brothers from Chicago who built

(01:26):
America's biggest drug trafficking empire. What happened. I'm in a chapel, chapel.
We like this. They liked this. They looked at us
like their sons and treats like family. Now we're at
the table with the biggest juggles and with dot COM's
power and power and protection. J and Pete went on

(01:48):
to become El Chapo's right hand men, becoming the biggest
cocaine suppliers are distributors for the set. He said, they
made me write a diagram of where we were in
the car top he writes the name Chapel, and he
does little sticks he could be and Jake, which part
don't you understand? Thinking about? Really just one in a

(02:09):
way out. The story made international news because there are
the reason El Chapel is now in prison, and they've
never spoken publicly until now. It was crazy what I
had just proposed, like to cooperate against the biggest strugglers
in the world. My brother I had the only legal
recording of Chapels mom they ever had. Listen to Surviving
El Chapo, The Twins who brought Down a Drug Lord

(02:32):
begins October nineteen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple
podcast or whatever you get your podcast. There's no one
else who were in our shoes. Take a sit next
to and turnin this. I'm alive. This is who they're
just in my life.
Advertise With Us

Hosts And Creators

Curtis ‘50 Cent’ Jackson

Curtis ‘50 Cent’ Jackson

Charlie Webster

Charlie Webster

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.