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September 20, 2021 21 mins

Get to know sisters AND best friends Maddie and Kenzie Ziegler.


These two love each other… but, discover why living apart has been the best thing for their relationship.


Who is late and who is punctual? Who is messy and who is the neat freak?


Two Peas in a Pod or Opposites Attract?


Even if they want to, they can't breakup because sisters are stuck together forever.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Take twenty with Maddie and Kenzie Ziggler, an
I Heart radio podcast. Oh my gosh, what is happening?
This is scary but so exciting. We're definitely getting the
giggles right now. We have a podcast, How Crazy Kenzie? Yes, Mannie,

(00:23):
We're finally doing it. This is really exciting. I know,
I feel like we've needed this for like a long time,
just to you know, vent vent Let go talk about
what we need to talk about. I feel like this
has been such a long time coming. People have grown
up watching me and Kenzie like on camera most of

(00:45):
our lives, and I feel like now we really just
want to like share a more personal, relatable side to
us and show our weird selves. Yeah, this is like
I know, I'm kind of worried. People are like, oh no,
who are they? This is the real then I'm kidding.
Hopefully they like us. Hopefully you stick around, Please stick around?

(01:07):
Can we please talk about the episode name? Please? Oh
my gosh. Okay, we we've obviously grown up watching Live
in Maddie the show on Disney Channel, and who hasn't
though it's so good. It's such a good show. Shout
out to dev Cameron no, but um, we what was

(01:28):
the one of the lines in the show. Okay, So basically,
if you've seen it, you know that the whole premise
around the show is just just by chance, friends by choice. Um,
and so we said it as a joke. We we
literally are sisters by chance, friends by choice. But it's
just like so funny that it's living Maddie. So that's

(01:49):
why we named the episodes sisters by birth. That's by choice.
It's a little it's a little backstory. And I feel
like we were in the car, We're trying to figure
out what to name this podcast, Like we were going
back and forth trying to figure it out, and then
all of a sudden, in my head, I was like,
Kenzie choice, that has been a joke for this whole month.
I know. And it's not probably not funny too literally

(02:11):
anyone else but us we are. So I don't know
why we find that so funny, but it's just because
it's like from our childhood. We find it nostalgia. It's
not that long ago. We're like still babies, but I
feel like we had to do a little nod to
that just because it's a cute memory. Yeah, and we
seriously are like we've It's like I said, it's been

(02:34):
a long time coming with our friendship because you can explain.
I mean, that's like a long long way back. Um, well,
when we first started dancing together, Um, we actually hated
each other just because don't. I wouldn't throw the word hate,
I would say, justlike we'd we'd argue. No, okay, it

(02:57):
was just we spent so much time together that it
was just like we didn't have time to you know,
be on our own and like actually develop as different people,
like really like it was just the worst thing ever
for sisters to do. Also, mind you, Kenzie and I
are twenty months apart. If you didn't know that, that's
extremely close. We're like, like you said, we didn't really

(03:20):
have time to develop our own identity. We were very
much just one and the same, which is honestly, like,
looking back, I feel like we needed each other more
than anything. Because friends come and go, your teammates come
and go. Sisters stay forever, and that was the most
important friendship to maintain. Um, And as we got older,

(03:45):
it was, you know, we started hanging out more and
doing things together, but it was still just like I know,
I think I think it wasn't until we cut off
working together because we both shared dance and I'm sure
most of you know that we grew up. We grew

(04:06):
up dancing together, competing with each other, but also a
few times against each other, which is kind of toxic
for a sister relationship because it's like we want to
boost each other up, we want to bring each other
confidence and like love, and that was like, nope, you're competing.
You have to be better than one another, and it's
just like not how it's supposed to be. We're family exactly.

(04:29):
And so I think it was so important that once
we actually branched off and did our own thing. You
found singing and you still act, but like not as
much as you it's your thing. I started acting more,
Kenzie started singing more, and like then we stopped working together.
And then we'd be like, oh my gosh, we like
miss working together. So this is fun. Well this doesn't work.

(04:50):
This is just this is literally us now, Like this
is all we do is we just like sit and talk,
I know, for hours. But I think when our friend
Chip just to blossom blossomed was when you moved out,
which is so I mean, like it sounds so horrible,
Like every time I'm like, oh, yeah, Maddie and I
are best friends now that she's gone, it's just like

(05:13):
but that, like don't you want your sister with you?
And of course I do, But now it's so fun that,
like I can just drive over to your house and
hang out with you. Also, I feel like this is
a really fun podcast because as much as we are
one and the same, we are so polar opposite, Like
how would you describe how different we are? I this

(05:34):
is actually so random. I always say this to people,
like this is okay, this is really stupid. But you
were like very dainty like jewelry, and I were very chunky.
That's true, and I feel like that's a really good
way to describe our style and totally I feel like
our whole lives. I've been more timid in a way,

(05:55):
and I'm like a people pleaser, which you are too,
but like I feel I've always been like really worried
to mess up or fault, Like I always am a
rule followers actions. That's how and there's pros and cons
to that. But also i feel like I'm very like
light and whatever, and I feel like you are so

(06:16):
like incredibly strong, and you speak your mind and which
is always not good. Well, there's pros and cons to everything, right,
but I feel like we could. I would love Kenside
to take some of that from you, like I admire
you so much for that. Thank you. Oh I wish
I was a perfectionist like you and always had my
room clean and spotless. I was just gonna say, oh

(06:39):
my god, I can't keep my room clean for a
day because I go through my closet throw everything around,
and then I don't feel like cleaning it up. You guys,
I will go to Kenzie's house and I will clean
her room and I will walk downstairs for a couple
of hours, or I'll leave and i'll come back the
next day. It is trashed again, but you're not gross.

(07:01):
You just leave your clothes everywhere. You're still it's like
a clean, messy Yeah. You know, I think the one

(07:26):
thing that we fight about, the only thing that we
fight out. I can't remember the last thing we thought
other than this, which I don't know how this is
even possible that we steal each other's clothes and we
don't even live together, Like she will leave something at
my house and I will obviously wear it because it's here,
so why not. And then she's like, on my live strip, Kenzie,

(07:50):
take off my shirt. Kenzie, take off my shirt. So
that's like the only thing we fight about. Really, I'm
just glad that that's how we find about now. Honestly,
we've never thought about real things. It's always just been
like who gets what clothes, who gets like who uses
the hairbrush first? Like it's very m honestly, you know
what's so weird? I don't know why I just thought

(08:11):
of this, but I feel like our dogs like are
the same way. They fight over the same way. They
fight way more than we do, but they fight over
like like we'll give them two bones. They only they
want to share the same bone. They're like, no, I
want They don't want their own. They need to like
have a competition to see you can get it first.

(08:32):
Boots literally, Boots is my dog, by the way, and
my dog's Ivy. My dogs like tiny and Boots is
like a medium sized dog. But Boots is scared of Ivy.
I don't know how. I don't know why. He's the
weirdest dog. They're weird guys. We will talk probably a
lot about our dogs and definitely like an annoying amount.

(08:54):
So hopefully there's a lot of dog lovers here. You
are welcome, You are very welcome this podcast. But it
is true they're kind of like us because at the
end of the night they're literally snuggling together. So I'm
just like, how did it go from? Like wrestling? But
that is like us because we would get in a
fight when we were younger. We still kind of do

(09:16):
this now, and then we'd go into our rooms, shut
the door, slammed the door, and we'd just be whatever,
being annoying for a second, and then one of us
would go into the other one's room, like you would
come in and be like, Maddie, do you want to
go get ice cream? I'm like yeah, sure, and we
just go like nothing happened, which is honestly the best way.

(09:37):
Like if it was an actually serious, like an actual
serious argument, we would work through it and talk about it.
Several times where we've had arguments for days long where
we don't talk to each other, and then it's like
it hurts, it hurts, But it's also like do I
say something like do I text her? Or like do
I wait for her to text me? It's almost like dating.
It's like who makes Like it's like, literally, should I

(09:57):
wait until they respond? Oh? She responded, and like it
took her thirty minutes. Was fun. I'm and it took
like fifty minutes exactly. It's it's like that, but that's
just how it is. Yeah. But also, like, deep down,
I think we're so protective of each other and we
don't want to hurt each other's feelings, and like in
the moment maybe we were like we want to have
the last word or whatever, but deep down we're just like, oh,

(10:20):
I just wish we weren't fighting. And that's how I feel.
But sometimes I'm like, sometimes you get the last word
and I'm like, ow, like that really hurt. Because Maddie
is so nice to every single person, so am I.
But it's just like, if anyone messes with you, I
will literally I will yell at them because I am
so protective over you. But just like in a fight,

(10:43):
I feel like I'm always the more aggressive person. And
when Maddie just hits me with that, I was just like,
You're like, that's my job. Literally, Yeah, I want you
to tell me all the things that drive you crazy
about me. Mm hmm. Okay, you know what I'm gonna say.
This has been like top like top thing that drives

(11:06):
me crazy about you. No, but like bring it on.
Everyone will probably get it. Okay. Um, so when you're
on your phone or doing something I don't know whatever,
just when you're like focused on something, you block everything

(11:26):
else out. Sometimes, like she'll be on her phone and
I'll be like, Maddie, I need to get ready for this,
like I need you to help me, and she will
not respond for like maybe a minute, and then she'll
go huh, it's an ongoing cycle. And then I just go, Okay,
I'm I'm over this, and then you get mad at me.

(11:47):
I have a really hard time like staying present sometimes,
but not in like a serious way. I just like
really get in my own world and I zone out
for a little bit, and I feel so bad because
almost everyone says that about me, like friends not. I
don't do that with like strangers, but if I'm comfortable
enough with someone, I'll just like go into my own world.
And it's never personal. Sometimes I take it personal though

(12:11):
I know, I know, But most of the time you're
watching like like the weirdos, Like no, it's like pimple
popping videos and like guys things on TikTok, and I'm
just like, how are you so focused? Like I don't understand.
So that's that's the only thing that drives you crazy
about me? M hmm. I actually can't think of anything else.

(12:31):
I feel like there's way more things you can think of.
It's just not coming to your head right now. I'm
trying to think, stupid. I think something that's annoying is
when you used to drive me to pilates. You would
always give me your trash from your car when I
drop you off, this and this and this and this,

(12:52):
and I say, I'm like, no, no, no no, no, you
just drive away, just fully drive away. You're walking towards
a trash can, and it's like You're just this is
honestly just saving me a lot of time, so I
don't have to do it right, you know, gotcha? Sometimes
you need a help in hand. I'm trying to think
if there's anything that drives me crazy about you, Well,

(13:13):
I do. It does drive me a little crazy that
you are so messy, but I know it's not intentional. Well, thanks,
I guess that's not that harsh, like I think mine was.
Pretty hard. Oh, I mean, but I actually like, no,
don't backtrack, no, no no, like there's actually nothing that like
drives me crazy anymore because I don't live with you.

(13:37):
We both decided at some point without really communicating it
to each other, it's like we need separate groups of friends,
like absolutely, yeah, like it was vital for us, and
I think it was really beneficial because we were already
so close and like we had it was very like

(14:00):
suffocating at times, and so it was nice to break
off and like have our separate things. And we were
always like close with each other's friends, but it was
never like we wouldn't hang out with them one on one. Yeah,
I mean, like it really depends on the friend. Like
I think that's how it is. If you know, if
it's Jake, our friend Jake, like we can hang out

(14:23):
with him together together because it's more fun that way.
But I feel like, you know, my friends, I'm just like, no,
these are my friends, Like you can like them, you
can talk to them, but you can't hang out with
even if I really really love your friends, I've never
had a thought in my head where it's like you
might want to hang out with them one on one.
You know, I've never felt that way about your friends either.

(14:43):
It's always like, if I'm going to see them, like
it's gonna be with Maddie. Obviously, I hope that everyone
like enjoys us because we have a lot to talk about,
for like the fact that we want to open up
about things, Like we obviously wanted to be lighthearted and
fun because that's who we are. We really are just
like two silly girls, Like I mean, at least that's

(15:03):
how I like to like say who we are, right,
But I feel like we also have never really opened
up on a personal level or talked like Also, now
that we're growing up, we're learning a lot at the
same time as like a lot of our like followers
and things. So I feel like it's really cool that
we're like growing up and learning together and we get

(15:25):
to educate each other. There's a lot that we've learned
in the past year with everything that's gone on in
the world, and I think it's so important that we
stay up to date with all. Okay, I actually wanted
to talk about this though. I think your relationship with
mom also got really, really really good when you moved out.

(15:45):
I think it just it made us all like, so
so so close. I feel like you should talk about that. Yeah,
I think, uh well, I think for any parent it's
really hard for their first baby to leave, And it
was really hard for me to understand that. For a while.
I was just like, why isn't she letting me? Like
why doesn't she want me to leave? Like this is

(16:08):
bound to happen. She did it too when she was
my age and I and now moving out, I'm like,
oh my gosh, I so understand. Like we me and
mom really had a really good understanding of each other,
and I feel like we actually like because as a
and I think we both like established this like obviously
your parents sent boundaries with you, but once you reach

(16:31):
a certain age, of course you're allowed to have your
own boundaries as well with your parents. So I think
it was really cool that Mom and I really just
like worked it out and our relationship is so strong now.
It wasn't that you had a bad relationship. We're obviously
like the teenager you know, phase is just I feel

(16:52):
like it's probably awful for parents because it's like like
these kids they're going through like all these hormones exactly.
So I felt it was just like a lot for
her having both like two teenagers, but now you guys
are like best friends. Like she's always like, oh, I'm
going to hang out with Mattie Boots and I'm just
like that would never like I don't know. Also, the

(17:14):
funniest thing is like I was so excited to move out,
and the second Mom left and I was in my
apartment alone, I literally called Mom. I think eleven told
me that I called her like probably eleven times that day.
It's like, Mom, how do you do this? And where
where should I put this? And I know that it

(17:35):
made her super happy, but it also made me super
happy because I was like, Wow, we're working together to
kind of like bond in a really special way. And
I think now our family, like us three together, it's
really special. Since you left, she has gone so obsessed
with me. I'm like, okay, this is this is a

(17:55):
lot like because she was so obsessed with you, she
was obsessed with me, but it was just like you're
the older one, you could talk about more things like Also,
the focus was like on me leaving. I feel like
she had to be able to close that chapter and
let it go. And then she's like my other b well,
I was also like I still am, but like I'm
more of an extrovert, Like I just always wanted to

(18:18):
not be home, and so now that like I'm home,
she's like, Kencie, what do you want to do? And
I'm just like, like, what do you mean? What do
you think we're doing? But I do love her. She's
so funny. Yeah, she's actually so cute. I know she
looks so young now than she did I so we

(18:38):
better follow that same routine. I don't know what she's doing,
but I won't want to in her water. Let me
take a sip of that one. This is now just
an episode about our mom. She's gonna be so you
better be listening to this she are you kidding? She is?
Probably she's probably already listened to this four times crying.

(19:02):
Probably like recorded this snippet and put on Instagram and
was just like I love my kids, They're my whole world,
which is so cute, But her Instagram options she needs
like serious help. I'm worried how much she's obsessed with
our dogs and how she is their grandma and gandma.

(19:23):
That's what she likes to say, and it's I'm nervous
for out she's not gonna have a dog with her. Okay.
We talked about our mom a lot. We talked about
being sisters, we talked about fighting, But like, we just
want to say that this podcast is not just going
to be about siblings, Like, we actually have a lot

(19:46):
that we want to open up about and talk to
you guys about. Yeah, we're gonna be talking about relationships
and dating and friendships and mental health. I think is
the most important, and I feel like we need to
talk about that. Um. I feel like now more than
ever in this world, this generation of social media, online bullying, hate,

(20:09):
Like we really need to dive into that because we
are literally the target age for that, right. So, I
feel like and I've hoped that a lot of you
guys uh get to relate to us on a lot
of these topics, which I think you will, Like we're
all just like trying to figure it out, so all
growing up together. We're finally doing something together that's fun,

(20:31):
I know, And and it's actually really fun because I
feel like we'll learn about well, we'll learn more about
each other in this process. I know we're going to
become too close again and then we're gonna start fighting
anyway exactly We're gonna be like, let's live together. Thank
you guys so much for listening and we will see
you next time too many. Thanks so much for taking

(20:56):
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