May 14, 2025 • 17 mins
Join host Lynn Hoffman for this new episode with singer songwriter LOLO.
LOLO-singer, songwriter, and rising pop powerhouse-is known for her raw honesty, infectious melodies, and the way she turns real-life heartbreak and hope into unforgettable songs. From her early days as a self-proclaimed theater kid in Toronto to making waves on TikTok and touring with pop-punk legends, LOLO’s journey is as inspiring as her music.
In this episode, LOLO opens up about the moments when music was her lifeline, how vulnerability fuels her songwriting, and the ways she’s built a supportive community by sharing her truth. We’ll talk about the songs that have healed her, the unexpected places her music has taken her, and the messages from fans that remind her why she keeps creating-even on the hard days.
Whether you’re a longtime fan or just discovering LOLO, this conversation is a testament to the power of music to save, connect, and uplift us all.
So, turn up the volume and join us as we dive into the story of how music saved LOLO
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Music Saved Me.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I only had my first tour in twenty twenty one,
so just like a few years ago now, and then
I would meet people after the merch booth and they
say like, oh, like this really, I feel like you
wrote this about me, or like this really touched me.
And then I guess I kind of realized, like, whoa,
I guess I'm affecting people. And it was a little
bit surprising to me because I just never like experienced
(00:24):
that or knew that that was possible in that way.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome back to Music Saved Me, the podcast where we
explored the transformative power of music and the stories of
artists who have found hope, healing, and connection through their art.
I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and today we are joined
I'm so excited by a truly special guest, Lolo Now.
Lolo is a singer, songwriter and rising pop powerhouse. We're
(00:48):
talking like thirty five million streams already on that's just
on Spotify alone. Her raw honesty, her infectious melodies, and
the way she turns real life heartbreak into hope and
into forgettable songs is like nothing I've ever heard before.
My personal fave Hot Girls in Hell and it's just unbelievable.
(01:08):
From our early days as a self proclaimed theater kid
in Toronto to making waves on TikTok and touring with
pop punk legends, Lolo's journey is literally as inspiring as
her music is now. Whether you're a lifelong fan or
just discovering Lolo, where have you been? This conversation is
a testament to the power of music to save, connect,
(01:28):
and uplift us all. So turn up the volume and
join us as we dive in to the story of
how music saved Lolo. Lolo, welcome to Music Save Me.
I'm so psyched to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hello, it's nice to meet you. Thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Can you share a little bit about your musical journey
with our listeners? What first drew you to music as
a form of expression.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, I guess it would be a mix of two things.
I don't know how I ended up with this as
a child, but I just remember my first was a
Green Day CD. He was an American idiot and I
just used to like be obsessed with that. I was
obsessed with that and Averri Levigne. But at the same
time I was also a huge theater kid, and I
(02:13):
remember I was like in all these like I used
to watch actually Shirley Temple videos with my grandfather and
I just like wanted to be her. I happened to
have the exact same hair as her, my natural hairs
really curly wow, and at the time it was short
and curly, and I was like, oh, I have to
just be that. And so I like begged my mom
to put me into singing lessons and tap dancing lessons
(02:35):
and acting classes. So that kind of is where I
started out. So I was like this, like liked punk music,
I guess, but also like super theater kid, so it
was kind of like a mix of both, which I
guess kind of you know, makes sense of the person
I am today.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So yeah, but Shirley Temple, I mean that's that was
very unexpected answer.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah. I yeah. My grandfather used to show me all
of it, and I was like obsessed with her. I
thought she was so cool. Her and Billy dar Armstrong.
I was like, oh yeah, those yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Perfect combinations, Like who would have ever put that together.
That's like not chocolate and peanut butter at all.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But yeah, no, it's so random, But like I think
it really did end up affecting me in like I
feel like I was influenced by both of those things,
and I feel like today i'm kind of just like
you know, I like to rock out, but very emotional
and dramatic and so just.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
A little bit. Yeah, what's the most interesting or unexpected
place your music has taken you so far?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Hmmm? Interesting, like like actual place that I've visited. Yeah, Well, actually,
I just found out today that I'm going to be
going to Newfoundland, which I'm super excited about because, as
I said, theater kid and I love the play Come
from Away. I think it's amazing. So I'm really excited
to do that because I heard that like you actually
get to go and kiss the fish and do all
(03:59):
that stuff. So I would say that is an unexpected
but very exciting thing that I'm doing. But I mean
music has taken me all over. Look, I've into so
many cities in Europe and all over the US, Canada,
but I mean, for some reason, Newfoundland just sticks out
as cool. Yeah, unexpected.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, You're about to embark on a massive US tour,
that is what I heard has sold out. That's an
incredible feat for a new artist, Like that's huge. Yeah,
does that make you nervous at all or are you
excited to?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, well so I actually I did my US tour
but which was sold out, so that already happened. But
I have a US tour this summer with simple Plan
opening for them, which was another one of my idols
growing up, so it's just so exciting. But for my
own show, like, yeah, I had so much anxiety, honestly
because I have been an opener so many times and
I wasn't sure, like can I sell tickets to my
(04:57):
own show because you never really know, like you don't
know if you like passive listeners or their fans of you,
but you know they'll go to see you open for someone,
but they don't necessarily want to go to your own show.
So yeah, I was a little stressed out putting that
up for sale. But it all sold out and it
went amazing, and it was honestly even more rewarding obviously
than opening because it was like my own show. All
(05:19):
of the whole room was filled with my fans. You know,
everyone is screaming my lyrics, So it was quite the experience.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I bet congratulations on that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Do you have a go to song or artist that
always lifts your spirits when you need it or when
you're having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Honestly, I kind of go back to that Green Day
record that was my first CD. I don't know if
it's because like it's nostalgic, as when I listened to it,
I kind of like feel like a little kid that
had no worries because I was like a seven year
old and it kind of reminds me of that. Maybe,
but that is definitely something like normally, if I'm ever
(05:57):
upset or stressed, I kind of just like press plan
American Idiot and listen to it front to back. Also
really random, the song Grace Kelly by Mika always gets
me going. I know that's such a random answer whenever
people ask me that, but there's just something about that
song I really like.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, speaking of something about that song, you have a
new EP out called Possibilities.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That was the deluxe version of my album that got
released called Falling for Robots and Wishing I Was One,
but Possibility was the single.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, great artwork on that, by the way, not just
so much the video, the artwork on the album, which
which like these are just small details that get so
lost nowadays that are coming back and I'm I'm so
grateful to you for doing that. Can you tell us
a little about the song.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, So the song is basically about the possibility of
someone hurting you because you know, you're kind of scarred
from before and you've found someone that you're into or
in love with or whatever and it's going great, but
there's just like this little voice of the back of
your head that's like, well, you know, they could hurt you.
(07:03):
They it could end up terrible, and it kind of
starts to almost taint and ruin like something that's good.
And it's kind of like about that battle within yourself
to you know, you should just be able to relax
and be like I'm happy now, everything's fine, but like
sometimes I know I have this a lot, like there's
just this boys in the back of my head being like, well,
(07:23):
it could go wrong any second now, And so it's
kind of about that. It's about like I'm in a
happy relationship now, and something about that is really scary
because I'm like, well, any second he has the power
to just like hurt me, and something about that is
really terrifying.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, I when you mentioned that, I think anyone can
go back in their life and think about moments like that,
and you know it is scary. It's scary to take
a risk on someone else. Yes, And you just explain
that so beautifully in your songwriting. How do you coach
writing or performing music either or when maybe you might
(08:05):
be experiencing something like that emotional or a mental health challenge.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Honestly, I try to just be like as authentic as
possible and just kind of go for it where like
and not hide anything and kind of just like put
myself fully out there. I find that to be like
the most therapeutic for me, and like it ends up
I'm gonna say ironically, but I guess it's not ironic,
but like it ends up being the most therapeutic for
my audience too. When I do that, and when I
(08:33):
like just you know, write exactly what I'm feeling and
not try to sugarcoat it or you know, water it
down or anything, I feel like that's when people relate
the most weirdly. I mean not weirdly. I guess that
makes sense, But in my head I would be like, oh,
maybe this is too much whatever, maybe I shouldn't say this,
But I feel like anytime I just end up going
for it. It just kind of works.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh, you go for it. I think that's what really
gets people is that you're you're so list thank you
not only just in your writing, but in your performance
of the song. You're telling us exactly how we're feeling.
Did you know that, That's what I mean? When was
the first time you've sort of realized that your music
really touched on that nerve and people.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I guess I didn't. I didn't realize that honestly until
I started performing the songs and meeting the fans after.
So like I only had my first tour in twenty
twenty one, so just like a few years ago now,
and then I would meet people after at the merch
booth and they would say like, oh, like this really
I feel like you wrote this about me, or like
this really touched me. And then I guess I kind
(09:39):
of realized, like, whoa, I guess I'm affecting people. And
it was a little bit surprising to me because I
just never like experienced that or knew that that was
possible in that way. And it's funny because I used
to try to write songs like I used to make
a conscious effort back in the day, like I need
to make this relatable and like what people would understand.
(10:01):
And I feel like I did try to like dumb
it down or water it down, and I wasn't going
into such specifics with my older music. And then when
I you know, hawkgirls in Hell for example, what you mentioned,
I'm so specific talking about such a specific person and
such a specific instance. And I feel like that was
the first song that everyone was like, you wrote this
about my ex, like this, how how are you in
(10:23):
my brain? And I'm like, wow, that was like the
most specific first verse ever, and for some reason it
really hit people. So now I'm just like, Okay, I
guess we all kind of lived a shared experience or
something about being specific to me just hits people. I
guess like they could see it for themselves, which is
really cool.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So that's I think called being completely authentic, like thank you.
There's no you know, fake stuff for you know, like
you said, watering it down to it must have been
a shocking moment for you to realize that though, that
you could be that raw and real and not worry
about the consequences and feel that back at you. But
(11:03):
I mean, I'm old, and that song took me back
to when I was, you know, in high school and
you know, this guy was being a total jerk, and
you know, I didn't know what to do about it,
and you know, I can only imagine the experiences that
you had, but it definitely spoke to me years later.
So there's your.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Audience right there. Well, I love that. I love to
hear that. Hate to hear about that guy, but love
to hear it that you.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I know, who cares whatever happened to him? What was?
What would you says a pivotal moment in your life
that you know shaped who you are as an artist?
Age can you pinpoint any one moment?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Honestly, I feel like this first headline tour that I
just did, so it started in October of twenty twenty four,
so just like six months ago. I guess that was
the first time that I kind of really like, I've
I've performed sets before like thirty forty minutes, but that
was the first time that I really, I think, like
brought my album to life and like made a show
(12:02):
of all my music and you know it kind of
like had a story all to it. And that was
the first time that I like looked out into the
audience of full filled with people that were there to
just see me and that were connecting with my music,
and I was kind of like looking out and I
remember like the first night, I was really fucking nervous,
(12:23):
so I was like, oh my god, Like I get
really bad imposter syndrome. I'm always like, oh, well, this
isn't This isn't a real concert because I'm performing, So
there's no way, Like this isn't the kind of concert
that I would go to because I'm performing, so it's
like a fake concert. It's like not as professional. I
always think that in my head for some reason. But
(12:43):
I was kind of just like, Nope, this is a concert,
and I was. I would every night before I went
on stage. I started the first night because it made
me feel better. But I would just picture like young me,
like dancing in the basement or singing performing to my
parents the Green Day record and just her freaking out
and being like, oh my god, like are we doing this?
Are we about to get on stage in front of
(13:03):
all those people? And I'm like, yeah, you got this girl.
And then I would go on stage and it would
just really help me with the nerves and stuff, just
be like I got this. I got this, But that
was a really pivotal moment. I think that I realized, like,
oh look, I actually this is a real concert and
I'm a real artist and I can't have imbuster syndrome.
So I would say that that whole tour would be
(13:27):
the moment. Yeah, especially that first show in October.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Do you think music has healing powers?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh, one hundred percent, Like, no doubt. I mean I
hear it from everyone, And even if I didn't hear
it from people about my music, I know, like I
have personally been there with other people's music. So like,
it's so interesting doing this and being on this side
of things because I feel like for so long, like
growing up, I was on the other side, and I
was a fan and I was going to concerts and
(13:56):
I was like getting saved by other people's music. So
that's why really like HiT's even harder to think that
I could possibly be that person for other people, because
like I know how it feels to be on the
other side, and I'm like, holy shit, And that's where
the impostor syndrome really comes from, because it's crazy to think,
(14:18):
like it almost sounds like cocky to say, or like
weird to say, like, yeah, I'm affecting people, Like, that's
a weird sentence to say for me, because I feel
like I've been on the other side.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So no, the impostor thing I can relate to. I
had a job once in television years ago, VH one,
and I was so scared I almost called them to
tell them I didn't want to come in because I
felt like I was an impostor. I told my whole family,
I'm like, I'm just reading a script here, i don't
know what I'm talking about. No, it happens to a
(14:48):
lot of people, and you're not. That's not an unusual thing.
And I'm so glad you're past that now, because wow,
you are not an impostor. What inspires you to keep
creating even even on the hard days, like when it's
really hard to even be inspired.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I would say, just well, there's a few things. One
kind of knowing that there there's other people wanting me
to create and waiting for me to create, which is
a little bit like pressure. I feel like sometimes I
feel like, oh, like, what would happen if I just
like quit music today? There would be a lot of
people that would be sad or like expecting things for me,
(15:26):
but then that's also not healthy because I need to
do things also for me. But what inspires me to
keep going, I guess and creating on days that I
don't want to create, is that, like I feel like
creating is the only thing that kind of makes me
feel better. So when I am in those slums of
like not wanting to work, or feeling uninspired and just
(15:48):
like feeling mentally not there or like down or whatever,
I know that writing it out is honestly going to
make me feel better. So just creating in general ends
up doing the trick always for me. I just like
am that kind of person, I guess, So that would
probably be the main thing.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And what messages do you hope listeners take away from
your music, you know, especially those who might be facing
their own challenges. What would you like them to know?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I hope they know that it's just like they're not
alone in any of this. We're all kind of going
through it in our different ways. And you know, my
whole album that I put out last year, it's called
Falling for Robots and Wishing I was one, And it's
about like either having experiences with people who don't seem
to have a heart, or wishing that you kind of
didn't have such a big heart yourself, because sometimes it's
(16:37):
really hard to feel things so hard, and it's like
I wish I was just a little bit more numb
so I could just like go through life and I
could be a robot. But I feel like the whole
theme of the album and something a message that I
really want to push through is that like it's okay
to feel things. It's okay to not be perfect and
to just have all these emotions or be sensitive because
(17:00):
that is what makes us human and it's normal and
that's just life. So I hope that they listen to
the songs and realize that they're not a robot. They
are a human and we're not perfect and we feel
things and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, that's a beautiful thing to end this podcast with today.
It is truly an honor to be able to talk
to you, and I'm gosh so excited to watch your
star continue to rise, although I do I'm not sure
that there's much room to go up any higher, I hope, so,
but keep that energy that you have and don't lose it,
because it's always hard when you feel like you have
to reinvent yourself, but when you're truly authentic like you,
(17:39):
you're never going to have a problem with that. Best
of luck to you, Lo Lo. Thanks for coming on music,
save me and keep in touch for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Thank you for having me.
Music Saved Me.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I only had my first tour in twenty twenty one,
so just like a few years ago now, and then
I would meet people after the merch booth and they
say like, oh, like this really, I feel like you
wrote this about me, or like this really touched me.
And then I guess I kind of realized, like, whoa,
I guess I'm affecting people. And it was a little
bit surprising to me because I just never like experienced
(00:24):
that or knew that that was possible in that way.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome back to Music Saved Me, the podcast where we
explored the transformative power of music and the stories of
artists who have found hope, healing, and connection through their art.
I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and today we are joined
I'm so excited by a truly special guest, Lolo Now.
Lolo is a singer, songwriter and rising pop powerhouse. We're
(00:48):
talking like thirty five million streams already on that's just
on Spotify alone. Her raw honesty, her infectious melodies, and
the way she turns real life heartbreak into hope and
into forgettable songs is like nothing I've ever heard before.
My personal fave Hot Girls in Hell and it's just unbelievable.
(01:08):
From our early days as a self proclaimed theater kid
in Toronto to making waves on TikTok and touring with
pop punk legends, Lolo's journey is literally as inspiring as
her music is now. Whether you're a lifelong fan or
just discovering Lolo, where have you been? This conversation is
a testament to the power of music to save, connect,
(01:28):
and uplift us all. So turn up the volume and
join us as we dive in to the story of
how music saved Lolo. Lolo, welcome to Music Save Me.
I'm so psyched to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hello, it's nice to meet you. Thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Can you share a little bit about your musical journey
with our listeners? What first drew you to music as
a form of expression.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, I guess it would be a mix of two things.
I don't know how I ended up with this as
a child, but I just remember my first was a
Green Day CD. He was an American idiot and I
just used to like be obsessed with that. I was
obsessed with that and Averri Levigne. But at the same
time I was also a huge theater kid, and I
(02:13):
remember I was like in all these like I used
to watch actually Shirley Temple videos with my grandfather and
I just like wanted to be her. I happened to
have the exact same hair as her, my natural hairs
really curly wow, and at the time it was short
and curly, and I was like, oh, I have to
just be that. And so I like begged my mom
to put me into singing lessons and tap dancing lessons
(02:35):
and acting classes. So that kind of is where I
started out. So I was like this, like liked punk music,
I guess, but also like super theater kid, so it
was kind of like a mix of both, which I
guess kind of you know, makes sense of the person
I am today.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So yeah, but Shirley Temple, I mean that's that was
very unexpected answer.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah. I yeah. My grandfather used to show me all
of it, and I was like obsessed with her. I
thought she was so cool. Her and Billy dar Armstrong.
I was like, oh yeah, those yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Perfect combinations, Like who would have ever put that together.
That's like not chocolate and peanut butter at all.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But yeah, no, it's so random, But like I think
it really did end up affecting me in like I
feel like I was influenced by both of those things,
and I feel like today i'm kind of just like
you know, I like to rock out, but very emotional
and dramatic and so just.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
A little bit. Yeah, what's the most interesting or unexpected
place your music has taken you so far?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Hmmm? Interesting, like like actual place that I've visited. Yeah, Well, actually,
I just found out today that I'm going to be
going to Newfoundland, which I'm super excited about because, as
I said, theater kid and I love the play Come
from Away. I think it's amazing. So I'm really excited
to do that because I heard that like you actually
get to go and kiss the fish and do all
(03:59):
that stuff. So I would say that is an unexpected
but very exciting thing that I'm doing. But I mean
music has taken me all over. Look, I've into so
many cities in Europe and all over the US, Canada,
but I mean, for some reason, Newfoundland just sticks out
as cool. Yeah, unexpected.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, You're about to embark on a massive US tour,
that is what I heard has sold out. That's an
incredible feat for a new artist, Like that's huge. Yeah,
does that make you nervous at all or are you
excited to?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, well so I actually I did my US tour
but which was sold out, so that already happened. But
I have a US tour this summer with simple Plan
opening for them, which was another one of my idols
growing up, so it's just so exciting. But for my
own show, like, yeah, I had so much anxiety, honestly
because I have been an opener so many times and
I wasn't sure, like can I sell tickets to my
(04:57):
own show because you never really know, like you don't
know if you like passive listeners or their fans of you,
but you know they'll go to see you open for someone,
but they don't necessarily want to go to your own show.
So yeah, I was a little stressed out putting that
up for sale. But it all sold out and it
went amazing, and it was honestly even more rewarding obviously
than opening because it was like my own show. All
(05:19):
of the whole room was filled with my fans. You know,
everyone is screaming my lyrics, So it was quite the experience.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I bet congratulations on that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Do you have a go to song or artist that
always lifts your spirits when you need it or when
you're having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Honestly, I kind of go back to that Green Day
record that was my first CD. I don't know if
it's because like it's nostalgic, as when I listened to it,
I kind of like feel like a little kid that
had no worries because I was like a seven year
old and it kind of reminds me of that. Maybe,
but that is definitely something like normally, if I'm ever
(05:57):
upset or stressed, I kind of just like press plan
American Idiot and listen to it front to back. Also
really random, the song Grace Kelly by Mika always gets
me going. I know that's such a random answer whenever
people ask me that, but there's just something about that
song I really like.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, speaking of something about that song, you have a
new EP out called Possibilities.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That was the deluxe version of my album that got
released called Falling for Robots and Wishing I Was One,
but Possibility was the single.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, great artwork on that, by the way, not just
so much the video, the artwork on the album, which
which like these are just small details that get so
lost nowadays that are coming back and I'm I'm so
grateful to you for doing that. Can you tell us
a little about the song.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, So the song is basically about the possibility of
someone hurting you because you know, you're kind of scarred
from before and you've found someone that you're into or
in love with or whatever and it's going great, but
there's just like this little voice of the back of
your head that's like, well, you know, they could hurt you.
(07:03):
They it could end up terrible, and it kind of
starts to almost taint and ruin like something that's good.
And it's kind of like about that battle within yourself
to you know, you should just be able to relax
and be like I'm happy now, everything's fine, but like
sometimes I know I have this a lot, like there's
just this boys in the back of my head being like, well,
(07:23):
it could go wrong any second now, And so it's
kind of about that. It's about like I'm in a
happy relationship now, and something about that is really scary
because I'm like, well, any second he has the power
to just like hurt me, and something about that is
really terrifying.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, I when you mentioned that, I think anyone can
go back in their life and think about moments like that,
and you know it is scary. It's scary to take
a risk on someone else. Yes, And you just explain
that so beautifully in your songwriting. How do you coach
writing or performing music either or when maybe you might
(08:05):
be experiencing something like that emotional or a mental health challenge.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Honestly, I try to just be like as authentic as
possible and just kind of go for it where like
and not hide anything and kind of just like put
myself fully out there. I find that to be like
the most therapeutic for me, and like it ends up
I'm gonna say ironically, but I guess it's not ironic,
but like it ends up being the most therapeutic for
my audience too. When I do that, and when I
(08:33):
like just you know, write exactly what I'm feeling and
not try to sugarcoat it or you know, water it
down or anything, I feel like that's when people relate
the most weirdly. I mean not weirdly. I guess that
makes sense, But in my head I would be like, oh,
maybe this is too much whatever, maybe I shouldn't say this,
But I feel like anytime I just end up going
for it. It just kind of works.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh, you go for it. I think that's what really
gets people is that you're you're so list thank you
not only just in your writing, but in your performance
of the song. You're telling us exactly how we're feeling.
Did you know that, That's what I mean? When was
the first time you've sort of realized that your music
really touched on that nerve and people.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I guess I didn't. I didn't realize that honestly until
I started performing the songs and meeting the fans after.
So like I only had my first tour in twenty
twenty one, so just like a few years ago now,
and then I would meet people after at the merch
booth and they would say like, oh, like this really
I feel like you wrote this about me, or like
this really touched me. And then I guess I kind
(09:39):
of realized, like, whoa, I guess I'm affecting people. And
it was a little bit surprising to me because I
just never like experienced that or knew that that was
possible in that way. And it's funny because I used
to try to write songs like I used to make
a conscious effort back in the day, like I need
to make this relatable and like what people would understand.
(10:01):
And I feel like I did try to like dumb
it down or water it down, and I wasn't going
into such specifics with my older music. And then when
I you know, hawkgirls in Hell for example, what you mentioned,
I'm so specific talking about such a specific person and
such a specific instance. And I feel like that was
the first song that everyone was like, you wrote this
about my ex, like this, how how are you in
(10:23):
my brain? And I'm like, wow, that was like the
most specific first verse ever, and for some reason it
really hit people. So now I'm just like, Okay, I
guess we all kind of lived a shared experience or
something about being specific to me just hits people. I
guess like they could see it for themselves, which is
really cool.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So that's I think called being completely authentic, like thank you.
There's no you know, fake stuff for you know, like
you said, watering it down to it must have been
a shocking moment for you to realize that though, that
you could be that raw and real and not worry
about the consequences and feel that back at you. But
(11:03):
I mean, I'm old, and that song took me back
to when I was, you know, in high school and
you know, this guy was being a total jerk, and
you know, I didn't know what to do about it,
and you know, I can only imagine the experiences that
you had, but it definitely spoke to me years later.
So there's your.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Audience right there. Well, I love that. I love to
hear that. Hate to hear about that guy, but love
to hear it that you.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I know, who cares whatever happened to him? What was?
What would you says a pivotal moment in your life
that you know shaped who you are as an artist?
Age can you pinpoint any one moment?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Honestly, I feel like this first headline tour that I
just did, so it started in October of twenty twenty four,
so just like six months ago. I guess that was
the first time that I kind of really like, I've
I've performed sets before like thirty forty minutes, but that
was the first time that I really, I think, like
brought my album to life and like made a show
(12:02):
of all my music and you know it kind of
like had a story all to it. And that was
the first time that I like looked out into the
audience of full filled with people that were there to
just see me and that were connecting with my music,
and I was kind of like looking out and I
remember like the first night, I was really fucking nervous,
(12:23):
so I was like, oh my god, Like I get
really bad imposter syndrome. I'm always like, oh, well, this
isn't This isn't a real concert because I'm performing, So
there's no way, Like this isn't the kind of concert
that I would go to because I'm performing, so it's
like a fake concert. It's like not as professional. I
always think that in my head for some reason. But
(12:43):
I was kind of just like, Nope, this is a concert,
and I was. I would every night before I went
on stage. I started the first night because it made
me feel better. But I would just picture like young me,
like dancing in the basement or singing performing to my
parents the Green Day record and just her freaking out
and being like, oh my god, like are we doing this?
Are we about to get on stage in front of
(13:03):
all those people? And I'm like, yeah, you got this girl.
And then I would go on stage and it would
just really help me with the nerves and stuff, just
be like I got this. I got this, But that
was a really pivotal moment. I think that I realized, like,
oh look, I actually this is a real concert and
I'm a real artist and I can't have imbuster syndrome.
So I would say that that whole tour would be
(13:27):
the moment. Yeah, especially that first show in October.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Do you think music has healing powers?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh, one hundred percent, Like, no doubt. I mean I
hear it from everyone, And even if I didn't hear
it from people about my music, I know, like I
have personally been there with other people's music. So like,
it's so interesting doing this and being on this side
of things because I feel like for so long, like
growing up, I was on the other side, and I
was a fan and I was going to concerts and
(13:56):
I was like getting saved by other people's music. So
that's why really like HiT's even harder to think that
I could possibly be that person for other people, because
like I know how it feels to be on the
other side, and I'm like, holy shit, And that's where
the impostor syndrome really comes from, because it's crazy to think,
(14:18):
like it almost sounds like cocky to say, or like
weird to say, like, yeah, I'm affecting people, Like, that's
a weird sentence to say for me, because I feel
like I've been on the other side.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So no, the impostor thing I can relate to. I
had a job once in television years ago, VH one,
and I was so scared I almost called them to
tell them I didn't want to come in because I
felt like I was an impostor. I told my whole family,
I'm like, I'm just reading a script here, i don't
know what I'm talking about. No, it happens to a
(14:48):
lot of people, and you're not. That's not an unusual thing.
And I'm so glad you're past that now, because wow,
you are not an impostor. What inspires you to keep
creating even even on the hard days, like when it's
really hard to even be inspired.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I would say, just well, there's a few things. One
kind of knowing that there there's other people wanting me
to create and waiting for me to create, which is
a little bit like pressure. I feel like sometimes I
feel like, oh, like, what would happen if I just
like quit music today? There would be a lot of
people that would be sad or like expecting things for me,
(15:26):
but then that's also not healthy because I need to
do things also for me. But what inspires me to
keep going, I guess and creating on days that I
don't want to create, is that, like I feel like
creating is the only thing that kind of makes me
feel better. So when I am in those slums of
like not wanting to work, or feeling uninspired and just
(15:48):
like feeling mentally not there or like down or whatever,
I know that writing it out is honestly going to
make me feel better. So just creating in general ends
up doing the trick always for me. I just like
am that kind of person, I guess, So that would
probably be the main thing.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And what messages do you hope listeners take away from
your music, you know, especially those who might be facing
their own challenges. What would you like them to know?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I hope they know that it's just like they're not
alone in any of this. We're all kind of going
through it in our different ways. And you know, my
whole album that I put out last year, it's called
Falling for Robots and Wishing I was one, And it's
about like either having experiences with people who don't seem
to have a heart, or wishing that you kind of
didn't have such a big heart yourself, because sometimes it's
(16:37):
really hard to feel things so hard, and it's like
I wish I was just a little bit more numb
so I could just like go through life and I
could be a robot. But I feel like the whole
theme of the album and something a message that I
really want to push through is that like it's okay
to feel things. It's okay to not be perfect and
to just have all these emotions or be sensitive because
(17:00):
that is what makes us human and it's normal and
that's just life. So I hope that they listen to
the songs and realize that they're not a robot. They
are a human and we're not perfect and we feel
things and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, that's a beautiful thing to end this podcast with today.
It is truly an honor to be able to talk
to you, and I'm gosh so excited to watch your
star continue to rise, although I do I'm not sure
that there's much room to go up any higher, I hope, so,
but keep that energy that you have and don't lose it,
because it's always hard when you feel like you have
to reinvent yourself, but when you're truly authentic like you,
(17:39):
you're never going to have a problem with that. Best
of luck to you, Lo Lo. Thanks for coming on music,
save me and keep in touch for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Thank you for having me.
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