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May 23, 2025 • 16 mins

Join @thebuzzknight for this episode with the former frontman from the chart-topping band Hinder, Austin John Winkler discussing his new project called "the Founder."

The project's first EP is called "Walking Ded" and Austin takes us behind the scenes of his creative process and also the challenges he has overcome to find his "new voice".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Taking a Walk. We were like, well, let's just do
something completely different and not so polished, and I'm like,
I'm into that, and so even lyrically, I wanted to
get more raw. Instrumentally, I wanted to be more raw,
and I wanted there to be kind of no limits
to what we're doing. And we didn't even really have
a plan. It was kind of instinctual.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast hosted by Buzznight.
Buzz speaks with musicians and gets the scoop on their
new projects. Austin John Winkler is an American rock vocalist
and songwriter best known as the original lead singer for
the band Hinder. During his time with the group, he
helped them create their breakthrough album, Extreme Behavior in two

(00:41):
thousand and five, and that featured the massive hit Lips
of an Angel. Today, Austin's here to chat about his
musical journey and his brand new band, The Founder, and
the new EP Walking Dead. Austin John Winkler joins Buzz
Night on the Taking a Walk podcast right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Austin John Winkler, thanks for being on Taking a Walk.
It's great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Good he be good to be here. Boys. Thank you man.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
So, since the podcast is call Taking a Walk, we'd
like to ask this question. At the beginning of every episode.
We pose to our guests if you could take a
walk with somebody living or dead. Could be somebody involved
in music, but doesn't have to be. It could be
something or someone personal to you. Who would it be

(01:28):
and where would you take a walk with them?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh, man, that's a good question. I think I'd want
to take a walk with my grandpa, my grandpa Charlie,
who's been gone for a long time. I think that
would be That would be a trip because I always
remembered something that he gave me advice. You know, it

(01:53):
kind of kickstarted my career. I think after I started
taking what he said seriously, things started to happen in
my career. And you know, he left this earth whenever
I was touring very heavy, so I never got a
chance to really sit down and thank him. So I'd
take a while on my grandpa.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Where do you think you'd be walking with him?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh, on the beach man, somewhere, I don't know, something
like that, and.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You'd get something that you hadn't learned about life out
of that walk. I'm guessing.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, I think so too. I mean, you know, I
like I never, like I said, I never got to
see him after things started taking off with me, and
I felt like I owed him, you know, some love
for that.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Where does a walk for you come into your day,
you know, on a regular basis, or you know, with
your schedule permitting. Do you use taking a walk to
go out and clear your head if you're creatively blocked
with something. Do you like walking?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah? I mean, you know, for a long time I
would just walk on the treadmill, and then I started
rowing on the treadmill and now I swim every day.
So probably my walk to the car every day. It's
something that I sometimes dread and sometimes look forward to.

(03:17):
It's just, you know, whatever's on my mind. I like
to try to walk it off and then swim it off.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, congratulations on the new project, the new work with
the founder Walking Dead. We're going to talk about that
and get into some of the creative process and some
of the influences for that project. But I wanted to
ask you, do you remember the first time in your

(03:45):
life that you were impacted by music?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Man? Absolutely, It's one of my earliest memories and it was.
I was probably six or seven, ate somewhere around there,
and Janey's Got a Gun came on the radio, and
it took me out of the world I was in.
It was the first song that literally took me away

(04:13):
from Earth and sunk me into their world. And I
remember being so attached to it that I went into
the bathroom because that was the only place I could
have some privacy. It was big, big family, and I
was waiting for it to come on the radio so
you could record it. Obviously, that's what you had to

(04:33):
do back in the day. So that's one of my
earliest memories ever. And that's when I knew that I
at least loved that song. I at least love that
that music for sure, that rock and.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Roll, pretty infectious song for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh man, I hear it now and it takes me
back to that time in the bathroom. For some play
like it's it's it's such a world that whole song.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Is, but also kind of a dark world too.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean that that could, you know, very well,
play into to some of my writing styles sometimes just
because it is a very dark world. But I'm a
darker melodies and all that stuff. I'm really attracted to
I could owe to that song.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Are there others that you think influenced you like that song?
Did other artists or other songs other writers?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean, you know, no, Van Bahrain's another one
like those are two songs that I do that I
don't listen to very often because I want them to
try to stay as crisp and fresh as long as
they can for me in this life. Because I mean
I have a few songs like that, you know, believe

(05:50):
it or not. Yeah, Eminem being who he is inspired
me to write lyrics. I mean, I figure, I figured,
if this guy can walk into a genre that he's
not really supposed to be in and and write some crazy,

(06:12):
crazy amazing rhymes, I can. I can. I can pull
it together and write some rock songs. That's what I
That was my mentality.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
And you were dreaming about a future that at that time,
you dreamt about something that would turn into you know,
quite an outcome that was fame and excitement and fortune
and glitz. It really kind of came on really fast,
didn't it.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah? Man, I mean nothing, nothing can prepare you for that,
for something like that. I mean, especially if you know
and it is obviously something that I wanted so badly
and I and I threw my whole, my whole self,
heart and soul into it and never looked back, and
and all of a sudden looked up and there's you know,
you're playing in front of fifteen thousand people, singing songs

(07:03):
you wrote back to your face like it. It's a
pretty crazy journey to go on. And yeah, at nineteen
is when I started writing songs, and at twenty four
twenty five had a number one hit, So it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
And if you could have looked back on that and
had someone that was in your life to sort of
be a mentor do you think that would have made
a tremendous difference or would the outcome of you know,
where things really you know went bad, would it still

(07:44):
have occurred?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
You know what, I'm certain that it's still the bad
still would have occurred no matter who was because there
was no stop. There was no stopping, There was kind
of even no talking to that kid like he was,
he was who he set out to be and accomplished
whoever thing he wanted to do. There. Well, I don't
think there could have been anybody that would have been like, hey, man,

(08:05):
maybe you should slow down a little bit, because I mean,
there were those people in my life and then very
important people in my life that had these conversations, and
I was like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, and
you're only good until you're gonna until you're not, you know.
I mean, that's just kind of that's just kind of
the legiousism of what went down.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
But does it make you look at stuff differently now?
The impact that you are making by being so transparent
and the difference that you could make on that person
who may be struggling with something.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Absolutely. I mean, it's it's amazing to read comments and
you know, write a song about you know, addiction or
it could be addicted to a person or whatever it is,
and to have somebody you know, get on there and
drop a comment saying I helped them with bulimia and

(09:05):
songs like Superjaded, and that blows literally blows my mind
because that's something I know nothing about, and I know
it's a very serious disease and I know it's nothing
to take lightly and the fact that I can touch
somebody like that is unbelievable to me.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
So you reached this point, which was pretty much. The
sickness that you were going through on physical levels and
mental levels created this period where you just didn't feel
like doing this thing, right, I mean you just had
just didn't had known desire to be participating in creating music, right.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, No, absolutely, I went I mean probably probably four
or five years without writing anything. I mean I would
pick up the guitar and I'd mess around with something,
but I didn't I didn't have anything to show for it.
I didn't have anything good or anything. I mean, it

(10:11):
was just it was a lonely time. I mean I couldn't.
I couldn't lean on music like I used to. And
you know, and that comes with just putting your whole
heart and everything into something and happening at workout and
then personal life and in career choices and stuff like that.

(10:31):
Can you know, pull the rug out from underneath you
before you even know it? And the next thing I knew,
I was completely miserable and music wasn't even really something
that I was pursuing at all.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
But you were also focused on getting yourself physically healthy
because that was a necessity, right.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
That was a necessity. I mean, as soon as I
was able to start recording anything else. As soon as
I was able to, I took that opportunity to record something,
and you know, I kind of never looked back. I mean,
I got healthy enough to be in the studio, and

(11:11):
now I'm healthy enough to take this thing on the road.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
So let's talk about the creation of Walking Dead, and
I want you to sort of maybe give us a
glimpse inside how you created it, how the writing took place,
the folks that you collaborated with, that type of thing.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, So the Walking Dead EP was something that came
about from just the Walking Dead song. The title track
was first of what I recorded, and I wanted to.
I wanted to set out and do something kind of raw,
because I mean I was I always love you know,
I always go back to the classics like Zeppelin and

(11:50):
Black Sabbath and The Stones and Aerosmith and all those old,
really really raw records. And when it got into the
studio and my producer Bren Hunt, who's tremendous, tremendous talent,
we were like, well, let's just do something completely different
and not so polished. And I'm like, I'm into that,

(12:12):
and so even lyrically, I wanted to get more raw instrumentally,
I wanted to be more raw and I wanted there
to be kind of no limits to what we're doing,
and we didn't even really have a plan. It was
kind of instinctual in the studio. We were like, okay,
well we got the shell down, what are we hearing?
And it just kind of you know, the guitar player

(12:34):
Randy Sanders, who's phenomenal, one of my favorite guitar players
now brings something to the record that just blows my mind.
I mean it's like he can play a solo and
take you even almost out of the song with how
good the solo is, and then bring you right back
into it. And it's a tremendous talent for that. I mean,

(12:56):
each solo is phenomenal, and it's if you hear a
solo from him, you're gonna know it's him. I can
just put it like that, because it's, uh, You're like,
what the fuck is that? What am I hearing? Some
of some of those solos are just so bizarre, and
it's just like we were in there having fun. And

(13:16):
it was also something I really wanted to do on
the raw side, because there's so many rock records out
and rock bands out now doing the exact same thing.
Let's see how heavy we can get everything. And it's
to me, it sounds like what the exception of a
few bands that have done it for a while, everything
else is just seems like boo And that's like I

(13:39):
can't even distinguish the guitar from the bass, and it's
so heavy and the melodies are gone, and you know,
that's why, that's why I wanted to pursue something a
little more like still kind of sexy rock and roll,
but a little more raw. And yeah, that's kind of
the gist of what the Founder became.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
So go through some more of the tracks and how
you feel about them, how proud you are of them.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oh man, I think that there's a song on there,
the last track on the EP, called The Fall, and
it's it's a very personal song and it's, you know,
a song that I never thought i'd have to write
about a relationship that's not in my life anymore and
something that I thought that would always be there, and

(14:27):
how there's maybe a little bit of anger and definitely
hurt in it, and it's it's one of those songs
that kind of takes you out of this this world
it takes you to a place and I've got nothing
but amazing feedback on that song and I'm excited to
go out and play it live.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
So's that's awesome. Yeah, that's great. So envision going out
and where you're going to be and the kind of
venues you'll be playing and what are you what are
you thinking about?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, I mean, we're about to announce it this week,
so I won't get too much into it, but I
mean I'm going out with some some two other bands
and uh, we're gonna start playing some clubs and I'm
going to test this this founder out on the road.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's uh, it's gonna be It's gonna be some some
raw rock and roll. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh that's so great. Well, congratulations on it. And closing,
so any dream collaborations that you might think about that
would be you know, in your sights down down the
road or is it really just important to savor this moment,
stay healthy and you know, keep your your eyes on

(15:42):
the road.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Oh man, I mean, I I mean I haven't ever
thought about collabse at all. Like I think you're I
think you kind of hit it on the head with
me kind of staying focused and you know, really really uh,
just looking forward to being out with the fans again
and playing songs and connecting with them as much as

(16:04):
I can, and just you know, it's it's just something
super special for me and I'm really looking forward to.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well. I'm so honored that you would be on and
that you would share your story, you would try to
help others by sharing your story, and that now you've
found that you know creative, you know fire and passion
again with your new music. So I couldn't be happier
for you.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Thank you, Buys. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Thanks for being on Taking a Walk, Austin.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Thanks for having me, buddy.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
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