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June 9, 2025 • 18 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm Buzzsnight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast,
and welcome to another look at this week in music history.
For the week, drum roll please, of June the ninth,
further drum roll, please, to the master of music history,
we go to Harry Jacobs.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, Harry, it's pleasure to be here for another week.
And got a bunch of research on this, got a
few fun ones to talk about, so I'm excited to
participate this week.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
What do you got? We'll bring it on, baby.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm gonna brush by a Beatles fact, because every week
there's a Beatles fact. Nineteen sixty six, paperback Writer was
released in the US. You know, really this is a
you know, a favorite of mine. You know, love it,
different sounding, fun, you know kind of song.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I love it too. I one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
In seventy eight. It's a shame we're not doing this
on video. But in nineteen seventy eight, over my left shoulder,
here you see this poster on the wall. It's I
got it at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
It's a lithograph of some girls.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
And that was released on June tenth, nineteen seventy eight.
This was a you know, a diversion for the Stones.
They you know, they certainly showed some diversity style wise musically,
but they also cut a lot of grief.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
They caught a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Grief for this sounding kind of disco.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Miss You was the song that you know, rock radio guys.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Were kind of like, it's disco, it's rhythmic, it's different, right,
That was the problem with it.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
It was different.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Feel like you're right that they took some grief in
thinking about it and thinking about that whole album. I
think it's an album that has stood the test of.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Time without question, and it's one of those that.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't want to say it was. I don't want
to minimize this. I want to be careful, but it
was their last great album in my opinion. They've had
some very good albums, but that album, to me just
my opinion, and I'm sure i'm wrong. I mean, they've
had some very good albums, but to me, that one
when you think about the track list, think about what
you just said, Some girls, Beast a Burden, Miss You, Shan.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
The whip, when the whip comes down, and the whip.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
We want to Keith's few songs that he sang right
when the Whip Comes Down respectable, Yeah, before they make
Me run far away, as they haven't had an album.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, I'm thinking about it as you said it, and
I'm trying to think of of later years, you know, releases,
to see what I might challenge your point on it with,
because you know, I like doing that it when possible.
But I can't really disagree with you. And I think
there there's been other, you know, cool work.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
That's been out.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
But isn't that a bitch when artists, you know, keep
creating and this.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Happens, you know, if there's no other way that I
can put it.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I hated uttering those words. I mean, you know, you
and I are on video, so you can see me
kind of struggling as I was about to say. I
wasn't struggling because I didn't have the words. I was
struggling because I'm going to insult the Rolling Stones and
I and there are one of my favorite bands, and
I hate doing it. But let me make the point.
Let me let me further articulate my point. That album
had ten tracks on it, Side one miss You when

(03:35):
the Whip Comes Down, just my Imagination, Temptations cover Some Girls,
Lies Side, Too, far Away Eyes, Respectable, Before They Make
Me Run, Beast, a Burden, and Shattered. The only song
I wouldn't say isn't an amazing song is Lies maybe
far Away Eyes. But there's nine eight of ten songs.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, b plus Yeah, but then think of what you
led with, how they took grief when it came out. Yeah,
it was kind of like, oh boy, what did stones
just do?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
You know, there's been nothing that has stood the test
of time for them since Some Girls my opinion.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And we were talking on a previous episode about the
brilliance of the album artwork for you know, Sergeant Pepper,
Some Girls, pretty pretty brilliant packaging as well.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I get to walk into my office every single day
and see the cover, you know, of Some Girls.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
I mean, it's, you know, pretty amazing, and the poster
next to it is Exile on Main Street.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, well that's We could do an episode just on
album art and covers, which you know now is is
kind of a you know, it's a lost art if
you will, you sure sure?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Nineteen ninety five Radioheads Fake Plastic Trees came out, and
you know this, this was around the time I wasn't
listening to a tremendous amount of uh you know, of
new music from from artists like Radiohead, but I haven't.
I certainly have an appreciation for them.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I would agree and say the same thing. And
there were some aspects of alternative leaning radio stations. This
is gonna sound wrong, so feel free to jump down
my throat. But that that that felt like, you know,
they were shoving down our throat bands like that. Yeah,

(05:39):
and they kind of articulated it in a way that
put me off as a listener because it made you
feel like, if you're not cool enough to like this music,
then you're just not cool, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yeah, and they did this thing, you know, long before.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
We were considered boomers, but they did this thing where
like you're listening to the old guys radio station. Do
you remember this is you know, we were pissed because
we were at ZLX, But do you remember back in
the day WBCN with Tom Sandman with his radio production,
which was legendary. They would poke fund at ZLX, even

(06:19):
when we were in the family and all owned by
the same company. But I remember one of the little
anti classic rock kind of messages that they would run
and their promos was, you know, the difference between us
and the old guy's classic rock station is because cat
is for Pussy's meaning Kat Stevens, right, and they were

(06:41):
you know they were.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I do, But I also remember then when we beat
their ass in the ratings that those promos stopped.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
So that's right.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And then we got Charles and they got Howard and
the rest is history.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
The rest is history.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
But at any rate, this was at the time, by
the way, to illustrate your point, I had gone from
ZLX to Rochester to CMF, which was a rock station.
But we did have an alternative competitor that was doing
kind of the same thing to us, but we weren't,
as I recall, we weren't playing Radiohead in ninety six
when I got there. That was the alternative.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Let me nerd out for a second.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That radio station that you competed against in Rochester was
called the Nerve, right.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Eric Anderson, The Nerve, Oh man, I better get a life.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
That radio station, by the way, is it was on
the ninety five to five frequency where brother Weez, who
has been doing mornings in Rochester, has been doing mornings
since the early eighties.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
At this point I've worked with I've worked with some tough.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Cookies in my day, but Weez is a guy who
would dig his feet in as the program director to
a morning show.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
He was a pain in my.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Ass what I was as he was, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
In two thousand and on June tenth, Eminem's The Marshall
Mathers Album debuted at number one. I really loved the
real Slim Shady Yeah me too.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Just one of those songs. Even even now it's I.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Think it's Oh yeah, it's a good one. Just a
great get a catchy, catchy song. June twelfth, nineteen seventy six.
I went into the rabbit hole for this to see
if I can find some video of it. But Roger
Daltrey and Keith Moon imagine this, joined the Beach Boys
on stage in Anaheim for Barbara Ann.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's wild.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
I was reading this and going what, Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I went through so many YouTube videos this morning, thinking, God,
I gotta find this. I gotta find it, I gotta
find it. Where is it? And there's nothing on YouTube
with it? I'm sure there's video somewhere, but I kind
of like to hear Roger Daltrey and Keith Moon on
Barbara Ann that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, we'll have to ask Roger Daltrey sometime about it.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I hope, I hope you have the opportunity to ask
him now, but be outstanding.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
June fourteenth, nineteen seventy.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Derek and the Dominoes was formed Eric Clapton, Dwayne Alman.
The album with Layla came out Layla and other assorted
love songs.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
There's there's some brilliance on that entire album. I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
That I was explaining to someone from not our generation,
not long ago.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Oh, that was nice of you to include me that way.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, not your generation, not my generation. I oh, okay, okay,
edit that out and fix it. But yeah, but I
was explaining to someone not long ago who didn't understand.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
He said, oh, I love that song. Leila.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I said, do you have any idea what it's about?
And she said, no, I have no idea. It's about
ten years younger than I am, about forty eight fifty
years old. And I explained that George Harrison connection to
Eric Clapton and Patty Harrison, and every time I think
about that story, I'm left scratching my head. This Eric Clapton,

(10:09):
his best friend George Harrison, he falls in love with
Harrison's wife, they end up getting married, and Clapton and
Harrison still end up being friends after that. How do
you recover from that?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, well they would probably blame everything on drugs, So.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, and such a sad and heartbreaking song when you
think about it from that perspective.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Eric Clapton really loved her.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And he was in a nearly impossible situation.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
So nineteen seventy June fourteenth, Derek and.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
The Dominos was formed, and of course the great Dwayne
Allman who did the.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Slide guitar at the end of Lalem.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
June fifteenth, nineteen eighty five, Dire Straits, Brothers and Arms
began a nine week run at number one. I remember
this as if it were yesterday, with money for Nothing,
especially with the empty the videos. But that's another album
with some great tracks that dobro guitar on the cover.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh yeah, and when you dig into that one, you know,
particularly the title track, which is just it's so amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I have fond memories of that, and that was
around the time of Live Aid too.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
It was a you know deal and Sting in the
background I remember.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think it was maybe Sting and even Phil Collins
playing with Mark Knopfler at Live Aid.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
If I'm correct, I believe you're right.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Nineteen ninety six George Martin, who was the producer for
the Beatles, legendary part of that band, non musical part,
but he was recognized knighted as the fifth Beatle by
the Queen.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I had the opportunity to meet mister Martin a few
times and what a gentleman, What an aura that was,
you know that just you felt from him, and he
was also able to really be playful when we had

(12:17):
him on. I had brought my morning show to London
when I was working in Columbus, Ohio at QFM ninety six,
and we had bought this broadcast package. A week of

(12:38):
shows would be produced and guests would come on, and
they had a great booking person and they got George
Martin to come over one of the days and there
was a bit that the that the morning show was doing,
and we pulled George Martin into the bit, basically saying

(13:00):
when we ask you about your favorite you know, band
or whatever that's new and emerging. Please say fill in
the blank. I can't remember the name of it. Please
say that you're fascinated by. And we gave him the
name to play along with the bit, and he did
it with a flawless It's obviously it sounds so hysterical

(13:24):
the way I'm describing it now not but he couldn't
have played.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Along anymore as a gentleman.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Played the bit perfectly, and it was just a gracious
a gracious man. And it was a big thrill getting
to getting to meet him a couple of times.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Legend I saw him once.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I didn't get a chance or didn't have the fortitude
to walk over and say hello, but you and I
talked about the Cheap Trick Sergeant Pepper's connection. They did
a show here and he was the producer. He and
his son actually produce used the Cheap Trick Sergeant Pepper's,
which was an amazing show. They basically went through the
entire Sergeant Pepper's album and then banged through like nine

(14:09):
of their hits after.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
So it was interest.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Wow, we knew everything.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But I remember walking by the soundboard and looking over
and thinking, oh my god, that's George Martin. Yeah, a
handshake away, Yeah crazy?

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Do you know that cheap trick?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
In nineteen seventy eight played the entire Sergeant Pepper's album
at Budacan.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I know, you know, their love of the Beatles and
all that, but I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
There was a Again, A researched this, but there was
some sort of a Buny Carlos, the drummer, former drummer
before Rick Nilson's son took over for the band playing drums.
But there was some sort of connection with with bun
E Carlos and.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
The Beatles as well to look into.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But at anyway, there's a little your brush with George
Martin and my near brush with George Martin. June fifteenth
is Harry Nilsen's birthday. A bunch of legendary songs without you.
Everyone's talking.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Everybody's talking rather oh god, yeah, And he sounded like
he was a fun guy to hang around.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Even though he was like off his rocker.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Listen to the story about Harry Nilssen and I'm not
talking out of school because they're both you know, not.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Here to defend themselves.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
But the thought was that Harry Nilson and John Lennon
were heroin buddies.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
They were raucous. We know that. And you know who
was who was friends also with Harry.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
That was previous two time guests on the podcast, The
Great Actor At Begley Jr.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh, Yeah, and he talked about Yeah, talked about it
on your interview.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
I thought that was great. I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, that would be a good one for you to
go back and listen to the actor Ed Begley, the
actor and activist Ed Begley Junior.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Right, Yeah, he had a book out.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
We had him on for that and then I literally
took a walk in his neighborhood with him, live and
living color out there and in the suburbs of LA.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
He's an animal activist.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's a you know, a kind of an unearthy, you know,
an environmental activist.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
He's got products too.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I think he's got like a you know, some cleaning products,
you know, non bleach, you know, kind of things, natural things,
and one.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Of the nicest guys in the world.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, he's one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know, you interview a lot of people and I
try to listen to as much as I can. But
it always makes me smile when someone that doesn't know
someone else and they're being interviewed. You is the interviewer's name.
And he was so friendly. It was like the two
of you guys were friends. And I thought that was
a very nice time. A number of people have done

(17:08):
that with you and do that with you, but you know,
he was one of those guys where I thought, me,
he's a nice guy. He took the time to learn,
you know, Buzz his name, and know who he's talking to,
and he was inquisitive.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
He was just like he was a good guest.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
You should have seen him invite it as into his
into his house. And I brought along a friend of
mine to take photos, Ruth Preslaf, who is one of
the greatest people, and I asked permission.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I said, can I bring my friend Ruth over? And
he's like sure.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
So he greets us at the door and he said, Buzz,
come on in, hello, Ruth.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
You know, just like he's just he's.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
A great guy, like you're seeing old friends.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yep, that's great.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's that's this week in music History for ninth through
the fifteenth, and we'll keep trucking along.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
The research continues well.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Thank you Harry, this was a good one, as they
all are and appreciate it. And thanks to all of
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