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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Buzznight, and welcome to Taking a Walk podcast, and welcome
to another look at this week in music history for
the week of September fifteenth to the twenty first.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Is that correct, Harry Jacobs?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It is indeed correct, the fifteenth through the twenty first.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I can look at a calendar actually, and I could
actually recite dates.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, Harry, you are the man that looks at all
the minutia, all the little things in music history. So
let's break it down. What is happening for this week.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
This is an interesting week.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You know, this is one of those weeks where there's
there's not a tremendous amount going on.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We got we got a few good ones.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Mark Bolin of t Rex died in a car accident
in nineteen seventy seven on September the sixteenth. The band
was actually named Trannosaurus Rex. It was just like the
just like the dinosaur. And then they you know, they
cut it down.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
They were formed, and I think that the mid sixties,
sixty six or sixty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Not a ton of songs, right, we know the hit
which was getting on bang Agong.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, and the other one that was actually a pretty
cool one. Was Jeepster, If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
There were.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
There were a few listed Hot Love Telegram, Sam Metal Guru.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I don't know any of those. How about Jeepster? Though, No,
I don't remember Jeepster. It sounds familiar.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
To me if I if I played it for you,
you would, don't we'd be like Garth and Wayne pop
into the music.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, yes, indeed we would.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What an embarrassing look? That would be bad with the
mullets and everything else. Nothing to be like. We're not
bad enough already. We gotta look at that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We'll drive away every listener possible.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We'll even drive away our one of our biggest listeners,
justin from the cheese shop.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Right there, you go in Carlis is Carlisle? Is that
where he is?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He's in conquered, Massachusetts, conquered. Okay, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He will in your mail. He may be mailing you
some cheese. You never know.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
That would be delightful. I wonder how the breed travels
very well. Mark Bull in September sixteenth of nineteen seventy seven,
passed away.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
September seventeenth to seventy eighth.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
The Grateful Dead reconvened for their first live concerts since
they took a hiatus the year before, and they played
at Egypt's Nile Side Sound and Light Theater. That's that's
a venue I've never heard of.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I never I never got into the Dead. I guess
I got it. The thing made sense to me.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But you know, Fish and the Dead and that that
music from me wasn't ever anything that did anything for me.
Now that being said, there are a handful of grateful
Dead songs that I love. Hell in a Bucket, I
love Alabama Getaway, I love.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
A Touch of Gray. I've always liked, you know, Trucking.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Friend of the Devil is a handful of songs, you know,
the hits, and maybe a B side or two that
I really like. But I don't have the patience to
listen to a twenty minute jam.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
That's not their main deal though they're not just a
jam band in that regard.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What is their deal?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Explain that to me, because I think if you were
to say to me, what's the deal with the Dead,
I would say, there's this band that released a handful
of singles that were all really good and playable on
rock radio.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But when you go see them live.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You got to get yourself high so you can deal
with a you know, a thirty minute version of trucking.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's pretty unfair, man. That's harsh Listen. I think the
thing with the Grateful is.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That sounded you sounded like, Hey, that was your inner hippie.
Harsh Man. That's harsh Man, harsh Man.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I think the thing with the Grateful Dead is they
created the biggest sense of community ever and at least
in a band world. I think they were they were
one of the first to create that community. And think
about it, weren't they the first band you ever heard
of that allowed for people to tape the concerts.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like it was unique?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Completely embraced that.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, very unique.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It was a big deal to have those you know,
to have bootlegs, you know, back in the day.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And you're right, they did embrace that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
They're they're they're a model for building a community.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Really when you think about it, the merchandise aspect of it,
the free spirit of the taping aspect of it, and
you know, the enduring legacy of their brand. They made
it look very easy, but and yet I'm sure it wasn't.
And in their own way, they were brilliantly calculated on
(05:13):
how they created this.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Listen, that brand, that red, white and blue symbol that's
their logo is Epic and the Dead in Company or
the Dead and Friends, however they're referring to themselves. These
days played at the sphere and that logo was all
over the sphere.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It looked magnificent. Did you see that.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, So they're a model for branding when you think
about it. And you know, certainly Fish took that and
made it their own. I'm not a fan of them,
but that's what they did too. And then some of
the other bands who followed along with that sort of
(05:54):
jam band community, I mean, the Allman Brothers certainly did
that in their own way as well.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
To me, the Almonds were very similar in that way too.
You're right, but there was appeal to me that there
wasn't with the Dead, maybe because of the community, you know,
not to be judge, I don't know. There was just
something something never clicked with me with the Dead for
some reason, outside of the studio stuff, which I really
(06:22):
much about, I really enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, And the other thing I'll say about Jerry as
in Garcia is he did something that to this day
has an enduring legacy when it comes to helping to
make bluegrass music more mass appeal and have a you know,
(06:46):
just a bigger audience in general. With the Old and
in the Way project that he did. Yeah, it's really
virtually a supergroup. Now, don't press me on all the members,
but it was kind of a supergroup of bluegrass stars,
you know, the whole Earth in the Way thing, which
(07:11):
is brilliant to this day. You know, yeah, that makes sense.
You know the name John Sheer, right, I do the
New York music promoter. I became friendly with John and
Jim McDonald, the guy who ran things on the marketing
side when I was in Rochester. I get to know
those guys, and you know, Jim's got some interesting stories
about these are my words, not his, the adult daycare
(07:34):
he had to provide for Jerry Garcia. They were influential
in putting the Dead in Madison Square Garden and promoting
them in the Northeast, among other places. But Jim has
some interesting tales about Jerry's stuff I won't necessarily repeat,
but you know, Jerry was you know, an opioid addict, right,
(08:00):
that was the you know, listen a lifetime of chili,
cheese fries and chocolate chakes and Heroin took its toll.
Not a good combination, No, it's not at all, But
you know, at any rate, that's the thing. I was
in Burlington, Vermont. I think I shared this with you
the day he died. That week I was there and
(08:21):
it was like the Pope died in that place. That's
the hippie that's one of the hippie capitals of America.
So it's right, And I did just pull up because
I didn't want to leave it hanging olden in the way.
That was the group in nineteen seventy three it made.
It was made up of Peter Rowan, Vassar Clemens, who
was a well known bluegrass master, Jerry Garcia, David Grisman,
(08:42):
another great player, and a guy named John Kahan. So
they were really like kind of a bluegrass supergroup. The
Cherry formed that took bluegrass more into the mainstream. So
how's that, everybody for a rabbit hole that we just
went down.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It's a lot of information, boss, how about we move
on to something I can line with a little bit better.
It's a little easier to talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
September eighteenth, nineteen seventy, a member of the twenty seven
club passed away. You want to think about this for
a minute.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I thought about it, but I want you to go okay.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He put his guitar up to his mouth and played
with his teeth. He lit a guitar on fire. He
James Hendrix James Marshall Hendrix died nineteen seventy September eighteenth.
It cut short this.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
This career he would have had, and by all indications
some who knew him, I have spoken about if Felix
Cavalier is an example just not only unbelievable player, but
a sweetheart. Yeah, I've heard the same thing, complete sweeter,
just a low key mellow.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, isn't that you? You wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And I guess when I was a kid, I was
introduced to, you know, one of my first albums, you know,
was Are You Experienced? And that was that copy of
that album, I believe was my father's and just my
first my first exposure, you know, was was you know,
Fire and Purple Haze. And I thought, if I had
(10:23):
heard then that he was this gentle guy, it doesn't
go with the music, right.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That was a.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Crosstown traffic, think about how aggressive some of the music
is and was, But you don't think about Hendricks as
a you know, as a general soul. Absolutely, people that
played guitar with him loved him. Eric Clapton adored him.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, right, great, great stories about Jimmy Hendrix and his
guitar playing. You know, when you look at I always
go back to this because it's it's a little bit
of what I.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What I noodle around with.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But when you look at the song Little Wing, it's
become a blues standard, oh for sure. Right, everybody plays it, Yep,
everybody plays it. Duke Levine, Duke Levine, who's connected to
Peter Woolf, our friend here on you know, your friend
for a long time, Duke Levine. I used to go
(11:28):
see him at the Firehouse and Woolster in the late
eighties and Duke would play a great very he was
a kid, you know, it was forty years ago, and
Duke would play a great version of Little Wing. And
I always I loved watching him play anyway, and still do.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But I think about.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Duke Levine playing Little Wing, and then all the people
including Eric Clapton and Stevie ray Vaughn and people that
were legendary guitar players that still that lick. When you
hear that lick today.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You go, oh, that's immediately recognizable, certainly as a guitar player.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But Hendrick's nineteen seventy September eighteenth lost his life at
twenty seven years old. Like you know, Jim Morrison, Janis
Joplin and John Belushi was missing anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
In that club?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Amy Whitehouse, right, yeah, Amy Whitehouse. That was That was
a sad story, I know.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
September twentieth, nineteen seventy three, our last story for the week.
Jim Crochey was killed in a plane crash. And you
know he he banged out a bunch of top ten hits.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
In a short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, Bad Bad Lee Roy Brown to me is one
of you know.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It was just a great pop song.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I mean, I'm a fan of pop music anyway, but
operator and Bad Bad Lee Roy Brown and Time and
a Bottle. It was my prom theme in nineteen eighty
three or war.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It was Time and a Bottle.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I interviewed AJ Croachy Jim's oh his son.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, a real, real sweet guy and obviously immensely influenced
by his dad, even though he doesn't really sound like
him per se, but he, you know, could.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Just sense the love.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I mean, he didn't really know his father really that
well because he died. So yeah he was yeah, he
was kid, yeah, little kid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know, sometimes there are kids that are offshoots.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You know, you look at like Julian Lennon yep, and
you go, boy, he you know, he sounds like his dad.
It would be how great would it be to hear
Julian play with Paul and Ringo? You know, you know
that would be a treat.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And then you know, you look at at Jim's son,
and then you look at people that are not a
son but a grandson, like Thomas Gabriel, the grandson of
Johnny Cash, who sings some Johnny Cash music, and it's
just frightening. It's just haunting to hear his voice.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I know you shared that so good. I know he's
so good. I remember I remember hearing it. And every
once in a while I'll hear something and I'll send
it to you, or I'll see something and I'll send
it to you via text and go. You need to
stop what you're doing and listening to this and and
Thomas Gabriel, Johnny Cash's grandson, is one of them. He
(14:35):
would be a great guest for you on taking a
walk or music Save me. He had a shitty life
prison to himself. Big dude tattooed probably you know, probably
over six feet and two hundred and fifty pounds. He's
a monster of a guy. Not someone you'd want to
run into in a dark alley. And when he opens
his mouth he sounds like Johnny Cash. The other one too,
(14:58):
is Tommy Prime, John Prine's son as well. Oh yeah, Oh,
I've always say he had a song out a couple
of years ago. I was hoping for more from him
and it's kind of went silent because I was always
thinking that would be really neat to talk to him
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, well listen, there you go.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
That's this Week in Music for September fifteenth through the twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
First bus Well. The King of the rabbit Holes Harry Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Thanks, I appreciate that you should talk. You should talk.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh I'm the I'm to blame. I'm to blame.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You invented the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
It should be trademark Buzz Night, nineteen sixty five. This
Week in music history for the week of September fifteenth
to the twenty first. Thank you, Harry, and thank you
to all of you for listening to the Taking a
Walk podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
We really appreciate it. I mean it really.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
We're not speaking anymore, you and I for at least
a week. Thank you because of that. Goodbye.