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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm Buzz Night, the host of the Take It a
Walk podcast music History on Foot, and we now take
a look at the week in music history for the
week of April seventh. Over to the Music History Desk to.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Music fan.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Entrepreneur, media executive guitar wizard, see now saying guitar hacked.
As I previously said, guitar Wizard Harry Jacobs at the
Music History Desk.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I will use my wizardry at some point right here
on this week. I'll play us a bull intro at
some point. But thank you for that. I appreciate the upgrade.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
All right. The upgrade is this is a good week
the week of April seventh.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
The building in downtown Los Angeles, the Capitol Records Tower,
known as the world's largest circular office building, opened up
this week in nineteen fifty six. It's a crazy building.
Have you ever been in there? What imagin when your
trips to LA that you probably have?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, I think I was in so much of a
haze i forgot, but yes, I.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Was in there.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I saw some of the hallowed halls of Capitol Records,
and it's it's if the walls.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Could talk, right.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, it's interesting that I was wondering what was going
on in that building these days, and it's still being
used by Capitol. It's still their headquarters. Did you know
that in the basement of the building there are echo chambers.
I did not know that, and that's where they recorded
good vibrations so they can get all that, you know,
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the cello's at the beginning and all that stuff. I'm
guessing that's where that that's where that was all done.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, that's a good one to maybe go back to
to see if someone would take us through there and
kind of walk through, just as I was able to
walk through some of the places in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That would be a fun.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Episode to record with, you know, someone who knows some
of those backstories.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Good good, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, the echo chambers in the in the basement of
that building, and I'm glad Capital is still making use
out of it. There's other use in that building, but
but that's still Capital's headquarters.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
There's probably a dispensary in there or something in the boddom.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I would imagine there is, which explains why that you
were in there, and there was a Hayes. This was
long before dispensary. So yeah, in seventy five. On April seven,
the Richie Blackmore played his final gig with Deep Purple
and Paris.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
He split and then he went to form Rainbow.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Pretty incredible that he was able to do that so seamlessly.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, think about it, right, crazy And I you know,
I always liked Rainbow. They were kind of a I
guess you'd call them maybe a tertiary band for classic
rock stations. They were you know, it was never the
Doors or you know, Sticks or Kansas or Foreign or
you know, any of the usual suspects. They were kind
of a let's let's go grab something Man on the
Silver Mountain or you know, something long but which a
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song by the way, which I love still Man on
the Silver Mountain, you like one?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I like that one, But I'm gonna throw out my
favorite from Rainbow, Stone Cold.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, one hundred percent, so go hold.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And it did not really get cast as it should
not have been cast in the quote unquote here's another
hair band, right.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh yeah, absolutely before that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, it certainly was seventy seventy five, so yeah,
pre pre hair days, hair band days. In seventy nine,
the two day California World Music Festival happened at the
Colisseum in La Aerosmith Chief Trick Van Halen and a
bunch of others. This was This was Stephen and Joe,
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the toxic twins at the height of their madness in
nineteen seventy nine. This this is you know, Heida drug use,
Heida craziness, screaming at each other. Might have been even
a fistfight at that concert between those two.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wouldn't it be amazing if there was some rare and
footage that was backstage that emerged and turned into a
mini doc or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Oh yeah, little docuseries on the fights between Joe and Stephen.
In nineteen eighty eight, Alice Cooper nearly died of asphyxiation
during a concert stunt in Wembley. A rope broke during
a hanging illusion and a roady actually saved him and
the show went on.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
As they say after that, I.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Would imagine it's just crazy that you would almost choke
himself to death and you rody saves him and they
keep going.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yes, for sure, I didn't know that story.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Actually, yeah, we got a we haven't played schools out yet.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We need to finish the show up.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Come on, I know, oh gotta get Alie on you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Did you ever spend any time with Alice over the years,
I would imagine he was radio friendly, right. He was
a guy who who was happy to be on everyone's
radio stations.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I was fortunate one particular time time, and it's one
of the great radio promotions that I was associated with,
and it was when I was in Ohio with QFM
ninety six, and we had a big affiliation with Ohio
State obviously, and back then the coach of the Ohio
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State football team happened to be John Cooper, and so
we knew that Alice was coming in for a date.
And in the what the heck, you don't know unless
you try department, Yeah, we asked the label if Alice
would play along with this bit where we went to
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this it was called the Varsity Club, was probably still
there near the Ohio Football stadium.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And the event we created was meet mister Cooper.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And people were of course thinking that John Cooper was
stopping by, and lo and behold it was.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Our main man, Alice, who was the mister Cooper.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I'll never forget riding back to the hotel with
him in the Limo and the fans had brought all
sorts of crazy stuff for him as a gift, you know,
posters and merch and just this bizarre series of things
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that they bestowed on Alice.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
At this event.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And yeah, we took it all with him, you know,
back like as we were bringing him back to the hotel.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And I remember saying to him, he said, what are
you going to do with all that shit? He said,
I'm going to put it with the rest of the
junk somewhere that I'll never see again.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
That's really funny. But you would imagine that people are
going to do that, They're going to bring something, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And it was a strangest thing.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But he couldn't have been any sweeter of a person
to deal with. And it was a great promotion, great
opportunity to meet a legend. And would love to even
though I'm not a golfer, would love to meet up
with him again.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
If I was a golfer.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Would probably be easy to pull that off, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, he's a monster golfer, right, he's big into it.
And I don't play golf, so I don't I can't
even tell you, so I just know the lower the
score the Better and spot it April eleventh. Did you
want to say anything else about mister Cooper.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Mister Cooper, That's all I was going to say, mister
car Coop, Coop.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Coop, April eleventh, International Louis Louis Day. We can't ever, No,
I don't think anyone actually knows the words one hundred percent.
You know, I defire you to find someone walking down
the street that knows the words to it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Word forward. It's Richard Berry's birthday. April eleventh, International Louis Louvia.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So you know who made a big deal about that.
Remember the Philadelphia radio personality who worked for me for
a period at WMGK, John Debella. Oh yeah, of course,
Jan turned the Louis Louis thing into you know, one
of his big morning show promotions, the Louis Louis Parade he.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Did back in the day.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That might have even been what he was at WMMR
that he did that Louie Louis parade. So he took
off on that and turned it into a spectacle.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's interesting. I forgot all about that, of course.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
In John debellop April thirteenth, nineteen sixty seven, The Stones
pierced the Iron Curtain. They played in Poland, in Warsaw, Poland,
Communist Poland, and it was a big deal back back
then for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
As someone with some Polish ethnicity, yakshimash.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What does that mean? We will translation? I don't even know.
I'm not even sure. All right, We're gonna move on.
You could check back with me if you get a
definition on that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Also, on April thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, we are the
world top the Billboard singles charts. This, of course, was
the Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder project and it
was the subject of the Greatest Night and Pop great documentary.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Incredible by that. Yep. Couple of facts. I don't know
if you knew this.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I think I'm gonna give you one that you don't know,
because we watched the documentary and we think we know
it all, but I don't think we do.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Prince was invited.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Did you know the Prince was invited to this and
knew that like in the last few months that you know,
right or right after the release of the doc Yeah,
that came out.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yep, you don't know why Prince declined do you.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Did it have something to do with Sheila E.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
He did not.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There was competition between him and Michael.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
He didn't want to He did not want to record
with any other singers. He didn't name Michael specifically. You know,
the assumption is that he did that. He did offer
them a parting gift, though, which was a guitar solo
for the song, and it was that, yeah, well you
didn't know it because there's no guitar solo in that
song We Are the World.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
They declined that there were two things that were great.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We touched on this, you know, months back at one
point the Whalon Jennings thing, when Stevie Wonder had suggested
they do a little swyheely and and Whalen said, ain't
no good old boy ever sung anything in swayheey, and
he probably bounced. And then Stevie coaching Bob Dylan, which
was called on Teke. So let me ask you this,
(10:46):
speaking of Stevie coaching Bob Dylan, if I can interrupt
you and I had a bet, not even a bet,
but an agreement that you would see the complete unknown
the Timothy Shell. May Bob Dylan have you completed that
a sign? Yeah, I ask him almost every week.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, there were moments I thought it was never going
to happen, and I thought it could possibly lead to
the end of my marriage. But eventually, yes, I just
did recently complete watching it.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Did you watch it at home? Or did Okay?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So I was going to say, would you have gotten
what it have gotten to the point where you would
have said to your wife, I'm going with or.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Without you to go see the movie?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Or is this what we're talking about, not that this
is a therapy session, but come on, bus or listen?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
She did? Did she not want to go? Do you
not want to go? What's I?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Neither of us?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Neither one of us wanted to go to the movies,
And then when it became available inside our home, she
didn't want to spring for the twenty five dollars, thinking
that was ridiculous, and I was like, come on.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So then when it came down.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
To part of the plan, the cable plan, we then
sat down to watch it. That didn't go well either,
because the first look at it, we got to about
halfway through and she I rately threw up her.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Hands and said, I don't get this.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'm ready for bet and and I was like, well,
I'm never going to watch this with you again. I
want to see this completed. And then two days later
she said, all right.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well let's watch it and watch it through.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Did you pick up from where you left off the
halfway point or pretty much? Yeah? Got so?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Then so then it was a completed mission.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Completed mission for a complete unknown. All right, well, I'm
glad you.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I'm sorry for the strife I've caused in your home
by forcing you to see that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
But oh listen, my friend, you had nothing to do
with it. Okay, yeah, so aren't you curious of my take?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah? Boy, please bus what? Let me let me? Yes?
What did you think?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I thought his performance, meaning playing the music was tremendous.
I I you know, you have to admire the.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
The diligence that he brought to that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I thought.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Edward Burns as Pete Seeger was terrific as well. I
thought the woman who played Joan Biez was terrific as well.
I didn't like, and still don't understand why Susie had
to be known as Silly?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is that her name?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, the other name?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Apparently in reading about that, mister Dillon wanted her name
change to protect her her legacy because she passed away.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Susie did I think in mid two thousands.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I liked the fact that there was just a lot
of you know, concert footage if you will, you know,
that was part of it. That was the strongest part
the storyline, and specifically hearing him talk. I thought there
was a fair amount of a different form of mumbling
(14:22):
other than what I would expect of Bob Dylan's mumbling.
But now I'm really splitting hairs. The person who played
Woody Guthrie reminded me that a Kramer look alike could
have played him. But I would say overall it was
for me, it was a positive experience and ultimately for
(14:45):
my lovely wife when she made it through. I think
she saw it ultimately a little differently appreciated the performance aspect,
and you know, I wouldn't say loved it, but liked it.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Enjoy Yeah, I enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, you got to see the song that I was
talking about after I first saw the movie, which was
the song for Woody, which Dylan put on his first album,
the song he actually played for Willie in front of
for Woody rather in front of in front of Pete
when they were in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's right. Pretty moving.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Oh yeah yeah, so you know, welcome to my world.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
At least one thumbs up from the from the Night
from the Buzz Night Home.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I think that one and a half, one and a half, okay,
right right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm glad we got that over with, Harry. Yeah. It
was every week before we get on the air, I
have to ask you are we doing this or we.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Not do it? Did you do it? Did you watch it?
Talk about it? So now I surprise you. Nineteen ninety three,
Springsteen released his second live album. The first one was
Live seventy five to eighty five. It was that you know,
four album set, and then this one nineteen ninety three
without the E Street band. Roy Bitton was the only
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EA Street band remember on that album. You know, I
saw that tour a bunch of times. I saw it
ten or twelve times. I think I drove to New
Jersey and Washington. I did a little Eastern seaboard Bruce
trip for that. I happened to like that music at
that time in that band. The album actually got to
number four in the UK. I don't think it did well.
He didn't do well with that band here. Yeah, And
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I wish I saw that tour. I remember when you
went and I was wishy.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Washy ish.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I know that shocking, but I wish I saw.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Him play, you know, not only that round of shows
in retrospect, I wish I saw him play the shows
that were the you know, the Tom Joe shows as well.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, I'll tell you two quick stories there.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
At the end of that tour, that ninety two ninety
three tour is when we kind of knew the band.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Was probably going to get back together. We had some suspicions.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I was at the Madison Square Garden Concerts the last
night the tour and Clarence came out. Clarence actually came
out the night before at the Meadowlands during Born to
Run and played his solo and then Tenth Avenue and
the place just went.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It went crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
So, as a matter of fact, I think the way
it went was they played tenth Avenue and Crystal was
supposed to play the sacks when Clarence wasn't in the band,
and when that part in tenth Avenue freese out, you know,
the big man joins the band, Clarence comes walking out,
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and it was just it was Thunderous in the Meadowlians,
and then he stayed for Born to Run and maybe
Glory Days and Max came out as well. So a
couple nights in a row we got Clarence and Max
and then you know, after that, the next thing, you know,
it was Blood Brothers and then it took him till
ninety nine to get everyone together to go back out.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But I enjoyed that band. I enjoyed that music.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I've you know, I've always found my way to his
music whatever he's doing. And Joe was great. Chuck Nolan
and I went to the Boston show. I've got a
piece of artwork that hangs in my house signed from
Bruce that night, which I would treasure. Yeah, the Tom
jod thing was great.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Pretty cool, and shared the new Bruce news that just
recently has broke.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, there's a new This is very weird because normally
you get word from people that something's coming, you know,
they'll be a leak.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Hey, I heard from so and so.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
The I think, certainly, you know, that was something I
would have expected in this case. But literally, out of
the blue, a second version of the Tracks album or
a project was coming out. Tracks for those that don't
know it was a project that was released by Bruce
and his team of unreleased music. To that point, it was,
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you know, a probably four albums you know worth of stuff. Now,
as of the third of January, the first song or
of March rather, the first song from what is a
sixth album set Tracks Part two is now out there
and it's going to be available through iTunes and then
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you can buy it through Bruce Springsteen dot net and
get a book and get all kinds of you know,
chotski's like you would from the record store. But yeah,
huge Bruce project, a lot of stuff that was unreleased.
Actually everything that was unreleased. One of the things for
Bruce Nuts that they were wondering about. And I've got
confirmation of this because I saw the song list today.
A lot of people were thinking that the full band
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version of Nebraska would be out, and there was a
full band version of Nebraska recorded.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I've seen all six it's available on iTunes.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
The music's just not highlighted yet and nothing from Nebraska
is not nothing from the album, probably something from the
time maybe with the band, but there's no full version
with the band of Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I would certainly love to have heard that. Wo okay,
thank you for that, and there's that information there.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
In nineteen eighty four, Billy Joel and Christy Brinkley announced
their separation after nine years of marriage.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Christy and Billy have a daughter together. You know that.
You know the song that Billy.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Did for her, Alexa. That's right, the down Easter Alexa.
I have to be careful how I say that name,
because I'm sitting next to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The naming.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You just said, what place is brought up in that
song where I have spent a lot of time vacationing.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The down Easter alexis Block Island was We're brought up
in that song, the song about the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I love that song. I do too.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
A great song and this girl, unfortunately was blessed with
Christy Brinkley's body and Billy Joel's face. Love Billy Joel,
but man, it's a vicious combination for poor you know,
you know who. I can't say her name again because
I saw my you know what light up and the
last story of the day. In two thousand and nine,
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because we're going along here, Phil Specker was convicted of
murdering Alana Clarkson in his home four years prior to that,
that guy is just not the case.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Harry, thank you very much for this week in music history.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The week of April the seventh, and it's always great
to bat it around with you. And thanks to all
of you for listening to the Taking a Walk podcast.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
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